Oh no no no no no no no
chat is this real
two more weeks
>me when I lie on the Internet
>>88672792yeah
>>88672816It's real dumbass, go check for yourself
>>88672792It's True but this could have happen for awhile but then again we pretty much know Goobs is on her way out either by the end of this year or early next year so this ain't much of a surprise.But her going to Vshojo tho? Is react content really that good?
>>88672557Following gunrun and a shitload of riggers/3D model makers/artists/music makers just seems way too obvious for it to actually be her joining VShojo. VShojo usually tries to keep things secret if someone is actually joining. I have no idea what it all means.
>>88672937>Is react content really that good?it's super easy and get more ccv than playing most games
>>88672937He's one of the founders of Twitch so it's possible she just followed him back when she streamed there.
>>88672557uh oh chumshit melty
afraid?
>>88673011It's also the reason why I don't watch e-thots pretending to be chuubas that and too much of IRL content
>>88672978>vshojo keeps it a secretbro you might just be dumb.
>>88672557Flayon and Ollie also follow him so this doesn't guarantee anything. It could just mean she wants to collab with VShojo members.
>>88672557If this means she will collab with Kson then I am okay with it. We were robbed of a Gura Coco collab so a Senzawa Kson collab is the next best thing
>>88673251Ironmouse and senzawa collab with break the internet.
>>88673251>Gura Coco collabThat would actually be fairly big. Two of the very catalysts of the rise of EN vtubing in one place.
>>88673146They drop heavy hints, but usually try to leave a little doubt or suspense. Senzawa following the complete debut starter pack out of nowhere seems like it has the subtly of a sledgehammer if she was actually going to do it. Maybe it was something she did to gain leverage over Cover management by showing them she was prepared to leave.
>>88672557Didn't we have a thread like this in the past? Why bring it up now?
>>88673091I appreciate the Coqui soundpost but surely you have a better instance of her retarded laugh, right?
>>88672557It's reall. good for vsj
>>88673465Nah she's not threatening them anymore, she's full on leaving now. They didn't listen to her demands and now they're paying the price. Rest in Piss, maybe this'll teach them to hire better english managers.
>>88672557Yagoo shitting himself holoen is done
>>88673616Ame leaving and HoloEN is still strong. They are desperate.
>>88673676this time for sure bro
>please... please join my favorite corp... please... I hate you and make bait threads about every day but please join my corp... I need you so much... please...
>>88673726The combo of HoloEN having a pretty strong October and the stocks going to the moon after weeks of >the rigger yab is gonna sink themfucking destroyed their brain.
at least vshojo fans will be used to having someone who never streams, like Hime.
>>88673912The board is gonna become /biz/ this monday isn't it?
She's also following a bunch of riggers/modelers/artists/etc, so not looking great. Probably already finished commissioning her new model and shit just like Ame did cause she was all set to rebut after graduating lol
What's taking her so long? You need to keep the ball rolling. Cut the old one and debut a new one. She's practically non existent now.
>>88673928Weirdly Hime has been streaming fairly often recently while Haruka has taken on the role as the member who literally never streams.
>>88674094Both are irrelevant 1k shitters so I mix them up.
>>88673991This is literally the last cope Nijifags had so probably yes
I genuinely think Gura is gonna be gone next year, she'll do holo fes and then the announcement will come a month or so after. It just cannot continue going on like this where she can barely put out 100 hours of streams every year
>>88673726>>88673912We are talking about Gura leaving, why are you acting as this is about your shitty corpo wars? Shouldn't you be glad that a holo talent will choose a better outcome for her career?
>>88674210Nijiseethe.
>>88674051People said the same shit about Ame but she grabbing the same numbers as when she was in holo, a fair bit more actually but we know that won’t last. Settling at what she got in holo would be a win. So nah I think Gura comes back, says she graduating and people will wanna see if she different afterwards
>>88674235Ok nigger, just saying.
>>88674270Funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say
>>88674284corpocope
>>88674190Why can't that continue?Both her and Cover seem pretty content with her being a mascot that prints money
What's with the spike of shitposting today? Oh right. It's a holiday and the kids are out of school.
>>88674190Naw she will likely announce it before the year ends. It will likely be due to health reasons and shit as an excuse similar to Sana but we at /here/ knows what's up.
>>88674295Hit a nerve huh?
>>88672557It's over.
>>88674300What part of ANY of this makes you think Gura's content with being a mascot????
>>88674321>today
>>88674248Y'know cover is gonna do their hardest to keep her as an affiliate or remain in hololive. Losing Gura would be a partly crippling loss to cover.
>>88674339no lol never watched any youtube slop
>>88674408We know you don't watch your dying livers kekaroooo
>>88674300Because clearly Gura doesn't even enjoy the money aspect either, especially if she doesn't show up for important events like her anniversary recently
>>88673912PUMP PUMP PUMP
>>88674334Maybe, I doubt Cover will let her go before Holo fes. Though we don't even know if Ame is gonna be there being an affiliate, I doubt it though honestly
>>88673697As long as i can keep my Biboo, Ceci and Gigi i dont really care what happens, its not like EN has a strong presence anymore.
>>88672557op is a tranny
>>88672937>Is react content really that goodIt takes no effort so for someone who never streams it'd probably be very appealing.
>>88674408>muh corpo slop>Youtube sucks I only watch twitch!!!Ironic
>>88674348Uh the fact that she's been one for over two years now with little complaint?You'd think that if she was so upset about that she would have left by now
>>88674589My rrat is that her being denied doing react content is why she's like this. Because there was a noticeable drop in streams ever since she talked about wanting to do them, and obviously being denied
>>88673697Oh no, what will Cover do without all those Gura streams bro...
>>88674408Lmaooo this guy a troll
Wasn't Aqua also very inactive for the two years before her graduation?
>>88674699She was making the VN Game tho. At least a yr of that can be forgiven since they use their voice to record
>>88673912I don't know how many bizfags are here but should I sell now or hold? I just invested early this week when they were at the bottom just for naught but I have no idea what to do now. I know Morgan Stanley said it's gonna be up to 3900 in the future so I don't know if I should wait for that.
>>88674699Yes, which makes no sense why people think Gura is gonna leave because she hasn't suddenly started being super active or anything. Though Ame wasn't really that active either leading up to announcing her graduation
>>88672978Gura….. I thought you were unicorn friendly but ended up getting close to a bunch of homos in your alt
>>88674744Yeah this is something people overlook when talking about Aqua being inactive, she literally made a game with her as a character. Gura has done nothing to that scale to show for her lack of streams and shit
>>88674748Depends entirely on what you're in the market for. Do you want a steady stock that pays off bit by bit over a long time, or do you want a quick pump and dump? How much risk can you actually afford?
>>88673465How can you see the writing on the wall this clearly but still be huffing this much copium?
>>88674748Hold.It still should go up at least until the Q2 report.
>>88674820she was always homo friendly in her pl. it’s better to say she’s hiding it as gura.
>>88674748Just buy VT. It’s the name of this board after all
>>88674826She did do a bunch of stuff behind the scenes like that aquarium nonsense, though by now that was also a very long time ago. She might just be working on all sorts of other stuff and be tired of vtubing in general for all we know.
>>88672557Gura leaving hololive to join vshitshow is a proof that woman’s cannot be allowed to make important decisions and their voter rights should be removed.
>>88674820And this why Unicorns are cucks by default.
>>88674839The second one, but I am thinking I can hold for a few days to earn even more. For the record, I never invested in anything and I have no idea about how this shit works.
>>88672557>Not a vtuber>Literal who>Twitter screenshotWhat is the purpose of this post?
>>88674923Sure thing, Aziz.
>vt anons would rather talk about their /biz/ investments than Gura
>>88674963Cover is likely going to sink a bit as the stock normalizes but it's very hard to say because as a rule, stock markets are fucking retarded and Cover's stock has historically been tied to Niji's stock performance (which, by all accounts, is likely to perform poorly) and that can bring it back down a bit.It will always be a gamble to decide how long you want to hold, but unless there is a major incident you can expect it to rise and stay at a higher platform in the future. I'd honestly recommend Cover more as a long-term stock, though again that's assuming no major incidents. If Korone murders her manager or something it'd probably take a nosedive.
>>88675061This is the holoanti seethe thread, the actual chumbuds are talking about her in their thread
>>88675061Realistically what's there to talk about when it comes to Gura? She's all but disappeared and her few appearances are more a proof of life statement than anything substantial.
>>88675061I am scared about talking in /biz/ about my first investment in a fucking vtuber corpo. So might as well ask here.
>>88675152>the actual chumbuds are talking about her in their threadtalking about how she doesn’t stream
>>88672557I kind of want to see it happen if only because I really liked gurame collabs and circa right now they're pretty fucking unlikely.
>>88675216see? pure seethe
>>88675372>Stating objective truth is now seethe? Are you saying she's actually streaming somewhere?
Guys she’s following Belle Delphine… she’s going to start doing porn…
>>88675061>vtuberfans>>>>>>> /biz/ indian bots
>VShojo sends out emails to everyone who got in in August>August is when her following spree started
>>88675454>StartNever watched Gura stream have you?
NijiGODs always win.
>>88675526why the fuck would gawr motherfucking gura need to apply.
>>88675573Same reason Coco motherfucking Kiryu would apply
>>88675540Top kek
>>88672557>implying she would leave the place that pays her to do literally nothing
>>88675454She did more than just follow her, anon
>>88672978>risuwhy her specifically?
>>88675666kson did not audition, the only vshojo member who got in through auditions is haruka
>>88674744Okayu has a similar VN coming out and she didn't really have a massive dip in streaming activity.
>>88675845Probably because she was the only Hololive member that perceived and interacted with her on twitter back when she was an indie.
>>88673616We did indeed.Gura's previous account following backpack boy was known for AGES and this is just retards trying to stir up drama.
>>88673616>Didn't we have a thread like this in the past?this is like the twelfth time this thread has been made
>>88673831>implying these threads are made by vshojofagsWe don't hate Gura nor need her.That pic >>88672978 was made by a chumbud from /ggg/ btw
>>88675943She did not follow him for "ages" anon. He's a recent follow.
>>88672557These kinds of troll posts used to be a ban on sight. Discord does this retardation daily now because faggots let them
>>88674447>>88674595struck a nerve huh.
>>88676072Last time this thread came up anon's said she was following him for months.Ergo, 'ages' and not new.
>>88676104>troll posts>an ex-vtubers recent followings of a vtuber company>posted on the vtuber boardGo back to your hugbox and cry, this isn't your Discord channel.
>>88676057VShojofags seem to prefer vtubers that stream a metric fuckton. There's a strong correlation between how popular a VShojo member is and how much they stream.
Unironically I hope it happens for the amount of seething it would cause kek
>>88676230"Ages ago" isn't a term you use to describe something that happened in July
>>88676345Imagine the poor fanboy mod here.His head would literally fall off. Probably from self-decapitation.
>>88676337that's how the entire streaming industry works outside of your world of japanese mascots
>>88676345it will happen one day, shitposters and other haters will celebrate with champagne
>>88676363>JulyWhen you say 'July' do you mean this year? If the answer is yes then I retract my previous statement and admit that I was wrong.
>>88675845tree rrrrrat
>>88674300>a mascot that prints moneyTime and distance erodes everything. Doesn't matter how popular she was at one point. If she keeps away, even her mascot status and the money printing will fade.Obviously they can keep going like this since they own the character, but the money will dwindle. I don't know if Holomems have a base salary regardless of their activities, but if they do and the situation gets bad enough, they might want to push for an Ameway graduation.
>>88674644It's not the streams they'd be afraid of, but the sheer amount of merch she passively pushes.
>>88672557She's not joining, she doesn't like Twitch.
>>88672937>>88673011>pretending she wasn't successful before joining the blue cult without any reaction content
>>88674625Most of the world persist through some of the shittiest jobs imaginable because they pay well.
>>88672978>>88675845small correction, follows will go back on top if you start a conversation with them. so likely risu was one of her first follows before even half 2020 I think. But the rest is chronologically correct and in a span of 6 months this year
>>88672557holy fuck shes cooking
>>88674753I think that whenever Gura decides to finish Atlantis, is when it will mean she made up her mind to leave for sure.
>>88676390The mods here love vshojo, what are you talking about?
>>88672557Finally. Time for EN sharts to die.
>>88676566>sheer amount of merch she passively pushesI have a suspicion people are overestimating this. Those stock number reports posted now and then seem to indicate she pushes around twice the average EN in terms of merch, which isn't some kind of astronomical popularity. And while her popularity in Japan is likely more than that compared to the average EN, it has to be a drop in the bucket compared to actual JP giants like Miko or Pekora.
While you guys graduation beg or whatever I will continue enjoying the holoboxI think it'd be best if you devote more energy doing the same and appreciating the vtubers or boxes you enjoy instead of anti-ing holo
>>88672557reminder
She won't leave holo, after all Gura is the face of this whole thing and Cover just won't let her mascot goHer dream is/was to be something like Miku, so why turn off the money printer that is the character of Gawr Gura? She generates profit just for existing and being that idol-like mascot in the internet, she doesn't need to stream to grow bigger.However, I do believe that Senzawa is coming back sooner than later at this point, surely as a indie but she's the biggest vtuber, she can collab with whoever the fuck she wants to and vshojo won't let the chance slideShe will try to get things as separate as possible from each other, despite beign public knowledge at this point.Gura for idol reps/merch shill and Sen for the streaming part, where she can be as unhinged as she wants without having to worry about hurting a few JP suited men asses in a meetingShe really doesn't give a fuck who gets filtered in the process (and at least for me) that's a good thing
>>88677417>posting that fake qrd againah so it is discord after all
>>88677619>muh moneyShe can continue to make a shitload of money as an indie. Pretty much everyone holo can.
>>88677417yeah, no. Whats stopping her doing the same bs that she does for the third time
>>88677417Also remember
>>88677957coming from the perspective of someone who only watches indies, being a cover employee sounds fucking miserable for anyone who just wants to stream whatever and whenever they want. expect a lot more to leave over the next two yearsalso just in general for people who don't know, being mutuals with gunrun doesn't mean anything because he's open to giving advice or non-monetary help to anybody in the industry who asks him because he's just a nice dude and wants people to succeed
>>88673251The only thing "robbing us" of this was Gura's own fucking laziness
>partially retired streamer https://youtu.be/weXElwsQlh8?t=418
>>88676337>>88676428>popularity and likability is completely dependent on how often you punch your timeclock Retard.
>>88679183Cause you know how everything behind scenes and all cliques work right Sis?
>>88678187As a cover employee, If you put all you eggs in Hololive's basket you're a fucking moron especially if you want to be a vtuber for the rest of your life.If you notice the only ones who are stable mentally there are the ones who have a double life/career. In Myth Gura and Amy were the only ones dumb enough to do it. One of them is out now.
>>88673654mind your own business faggot
>>88677417A sunflower and a jerboa
>>88674820It's crazy to me how people like you exist. Men are constantly like "Slut-chan isn't a whore, she would never suck that cock" and sell their car to donate to her while forgoing meals and rent and then be shocked that she's A) a whore B) rich now and doesn't care about you.Stop being mindbroken by modern society, stop making the worst cunts rich.
>>88672557INCOMING GURA CHATURBATE STREAMS
>>88677417>another literal lying faggot from discord>member stream post>posted exaggerations and lies>thinks he's clever with his doompostingyep, we got a neurotic mentally ill nijiisister folks.fuck you rrat poster and your fucking lies.she didn't say most of what this lunatic dreamed up, and the stuff this lunatic did quote somewhat accurately was in different context. the only line of truth in this whole RRat is gura being somewhat frustrated with the producer she's working with for a song, her exact words wereMembers Stream: "it is time"timestamp: 1:44:15sorta serious tone of voice from gura - "I have this thing where i don't really like how I sound in music, and it's been that way for 4 years now. I much prefer how i sound when it's just me and my microphone and reverb. so I kind of prefer doing karaoke over anything that has to go through... multiple mixer hands. Yeah... cause... right away you can tell 'oh gee.. oh gees i can tell... and you guys can tell' and so... mixing is hard, i'm not gonna lie especially because i'm so picky because i know how I sound and how i want to sound or like... or like a problem i noticed a lot I'll have vibrato on a certain part, then I'll get a mix back and the vibrato will be flattened and removed and i have to say "hey, why did we do that? can we not do that? i would like that... That was a stylistic choice! That was not done... that was not a mistake! That was a stylistic choice, please revert! REVERT! so... Music too loud? Wait in the mixes, the music is always too loud, I've realized in the music today the music is always too loud. so I waste my time asking to fix this, like "hey.. i'm listening to the vocals here"so... yeah um... i don't know.. and then it's usually... um... *cute shork noises for about 10 seconds with some giggles* yeah, music too loud, i've noticed that in a lot of music in general, is that a... new style? like the anime sound... whos that one sound guy, in anime and he just makes everything bass-boosted to the point where it all sounds like it's peaking but that's the stylistic choice. everything is like suuuuuper loud (she's giggling here) to the point of distortion?"nerdy gura voice "urm... akshually gura loud is funny"normal happy gura voice "sometimes!"and she wanders off on a tangent.
>>88681156A wall of text just to prove the rrat post was right.
>>88681305sure thing ennacuck
>>88672557Whores:1Idols:0
>>88681156They weren't exaggerating lmao, what you described fits exactly what they just said. She hates how she sounds in official Cover productions and it's been that way from the very start lmao. Plus when she was asked about Full Color she said "don't expect it as an official release".And in general it's 100% true that Cover has sabotaging her music at best and not letting her release any at worst. She said she had 5 original song ideas in February 2021, she said in her new years 2022 stream that she wanted to put out way more music, but today? Reflect still remains her only officially released original song unless you count blue horizon.
>>88679996Thanks, this one is better.
>>88681744trying way too hard now
>>88681486Why can't we have whore idols, huh?
>>88682812Because I'm a schizo who thinks he is in a literal relationship with the cartoon woman on screen
>>88674748>Buying Japanese stocks Anon...
I'm tired boss
>>88672557what a shame
>>88681156>girl too weak to stand up for and demand what she wantsThat's why the screeching wheel gets the grease.
>>88672978Doob & Goob Collab incoming.
>>88686301that would be kino. goob with no limiters was a beast
>>88686301AMESAME WAS NEVER OVER! (if this rrat bears fruit)
>>88681744>lmao>lmaouse lmao less please
>>88672937Gura will not graduate, she will become an "affiliate" like Ame. So she will basically keep the same schedule she has for Hololive, just show up for special events or shill shit. While you will see be active on her pl doing react streams. Gura is the only one who was successful before Hololive. There will be hype for the return of Senzawa.
Gura can finally collab with that Twitch guy who loves her so much
>>88672557it's a tactic to get a better contract from Cover. Like when Randy Orton was in "talks" with tony kahn to join AEW
>>88688847I honestly think she is just tired of not playing the games she wants and being forced to do sponsorship activities. She is a creative person, people like that just want to do whatever they want to do. If you know anything about her past you would know how creative and motivated of a person she is with things she loves. So she is either burnt out/disillusioned with the corpo scene or she has a health issue. Ask yourself what sounds more logical.
>>88688588affiliate means graduated but will still be in holoearth
Keep it in tour containment threads >>88644573
>>88672978ogey
This is the beginning of the endHoloEN will disband
Honestly, gura doing 20 streams/year is just pointless and a bad example for the other girls.Just "amelia" her and get en5 out sooner.
>>88695518Hopefully. EN shart was the worst mistake of Cover
>>88672937>Is react content really that good?do i have to explain you what kind of content the biggest youtubers still do and which content creators she idolize?
>>88672557Got btfo'd in your last thread so you're trying again? She followed him in April when she was looking into 3D riggers. He doesn't follow her back
>>88696222Yes he does
>>88695867>>>/jp/>>>/trash/>>>/out/
>>88695867Ame is more Hololive than Aqua (fact)
>>88680601Telling him this ain't gonna work. As long as anyone has a cute anime girl model and puts on a pickme act he will donate thousands. I could get into a small corpo and give guys a ton of GFEslop for easy incel bucks and they'd fall for it. I could be rich in no time with how gullible males are.
>>886725572025 probably she'll be announced
I'm working on her model right now. She's leaving holo
>>88672557this happened like 5 months ago, retard
>Face of HoloEN>Also massively popular in HoloJP>They bankrolled her idol lessons>They built a statue of her>They marketed her as the face of Cover>They gave her prime billing at every event>They put her ass on the big screen at Dodger Stadium>Leaves forever because they won't let her scream drunk karaoke and the sound guy fucked up her audio one time
>>88702141>They bankrolled her idol lessonssneaky bastard, Gura's 100% self-taught as opposed to the failed talentless idols like Fuwamoco or Kiara
>>88688588>Gura is the only one who was successful before Hololive
>>88695518insider herecan confirm, holoEN is going to disband by the end of 2026. NijiEN is gonna thrive though and be the only leaders of the EN Vtuber market.
>>88672557??
>>88697349Do it then get the bag sis
>>88696344>Obvious pixels>Check anywayhttps://x.com/sensenzawa/verified_followers>Follow Gun to see if he shows up on the other tab for some reasonNope, he really doesn't follow back.
>>88674300>seem
>>88672557old news he probably helped her with taxes or something
>>88672557Vshojo is the reactslop corpo.
>>88695867true, it attracted undesirable "fans"
So if I understood this thread correctly from the 5 or so posts that I half read before remembering I'm schizophrenic and the voices will tell me the truth this means Senzawa is joining Phase Connect alongside Dooby, right?
>>88707333I found it funny they would endlessly shit on gura and then beg her to join their corpo. And then you wonder why they never said anything positive about them.
>>88674820come the fuck on dude, she made a rap song about being a whore with Belle Delphine for god's sake
>>88674637she did react streams to public domain movies though, was thinking about doing more but it never happened. Thing is she wasn't just denied by management her own chat was quite vocal against reactoslop too.
>>88707333It's all cheapfake!
>>88676337Vshojofags don't even talk about their whores half of the time but whoever they seem to hang out with for a while before dropping them and replacing with a bunch of new orbiters. That or gooning over a dude with voicechanger.
>>88673209Gura knows her fans hate Vshojo and other twitch whores though not to mention she would follow this bitches directly rather than their CEO if that was the case.
>>88679894The fuck are you talking about sister Coco was separated from EN before her graduation month pretty much so she wasn't in a "clique" with anyone on the EN side that's for sure people had to reach out for collabs that's all and she had more than enough time. She pretty much ignored Sana's graduation too and had no one on one with Ame either only group shit organized by others.
This is the most active she’s ever been on her rm account in the entire 4 years she’s been in Hololive btw
>>88674094Hime was a TT nepohire anyway
>>88711053Funny enough she unfollowed 3 people this morning
>>88697349I'm sure you could femanon, it totally won't affect your own psyche either seeing as you react so intensely to women showing the most basic of attention. I mean, a touch-starved woman desperate for the attention of males in her own hobby suddenly getting it totally wouldn't affect her. This will end well for you, just go get that bag!
>>88674388Mostly as a mascot if they can keep her as affiliate it wouldn't really change that much she can still collab with baseball teams and sell merch that's her entire purpose this days although people would miss her FES performances and shit that's for sure.
>>88673091>>88679996God I love coqui
i want it to happen just to see if the holodrones would follow senz or just pretend she dosent exist or “i never liked her and never watched her before” now
>>88676726her job is to stream as anime character for about 3 hours every few days it's not "hard" no matter how you look at it.
>>88674463she have the luxury of not giving a fuck about $$$ with a steady supply things would be harder without hololive, she would have to deal with her own merch and sponsorships business aspects she never cared about.
>>88696222this, it's literally ancient as fuck news.
>>88675666She was kson (and losing relevance) for a year at that point Coco never applied or reached out to them whatever.
>>88675761I mean she could get money for nothing in Vshojo too it would be a massive downgrade and a hit to her reputation though.
>>88676558they get minimal Japanese salary afaik so not much
>>88676660Her fans hate Twitch I'm not sure about Gura herself since she wanted to do reactfuckingslop even in hololive.
>>88678187>coming from the perspective of someone who only watches indiesfuck of ligger nobody asked you
>>88677619I don't think she can stream as a chuuba outside of hololive and what's this obsession with "unhinged" shit? I mostly hear it from homobeggars and it doesn't really add anything to experience unless you're fucking 12.
>>88697349go back to Elysium fat whale, I hope you kill yourself failed whore.
>>88713845die mad
>>88713006She didn't apply, while doing her anniversary stuff (looking for a studio,merch,etc) she met the guy that vshojo hired in japan to look for applicants.They talked for a while and she told him that it was difficult for her to get the things mentioned above (she was still blocked by anyone hungry for Yuan and those who did agree to sell her things, did so for double or triple the usual price).the guy proposed to help her with that and offered to join her and in that sense he complied with what he told her.
>>88675877>>88713006so gunrun smells blood in the water at cover hq and is reaching out to gura. what could he offer to her that would make her want to quit being the top dog of vtubing?
>>88715433Gunrun wasn't reaching out to Gura.
