https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DolP8msG14https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DolP8msG14https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DolP8msG14
what the fuck is cover doing i havent followed hololive since 2023
>>90536495not again...
Cover is fucked
FuckFdund|3itch
>>90536495Already home? Did the bottling machine break down again?
DOOM-DENIERS ALWAYS LOSENOTHINGBURGERFAGS ALWAYS LOSE
>>90536495Remember to thank Ame for starting this affiliate trend bullshit.
Who impregnated her this time?
KEKFEET WON
>>90536495she's been active in her YT rm account recently. That checks out I guess. Hope I'm wrong though
>>90536495>>90536671All in on nothing ever happening
>>90536495Okay nowWhat the fuck is cover doing for them to abandon ship like thisIt's DEFINITELY consequence of going public, but what specifically has happened
>>90536708La Creatividad knows no bounds...
>>90536733me
>>90536733She graduates in order to become Kronii's lover, since Cover bans holomems from fraternizing.
she's just going on hiatus for health issues obviously, wait I mean it's just a merch announcement, no wait, uh
did you buy it?
>>90536521overlapping doki's tournament
>>90536495It's because you nominated her for the ASMR award again. You broke her.
>israelFUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>90536495kino
>>90536495Fucked up if true, something with the new direction of the company really doesn't sit well with the talents apparently
THE TWO WEEKS ARRIVED
>>90536843she knows that she doesnt get enough from cover justifying a 50% cut so she will go indiesmart kirin
>>90536495It's just a health break
>>90536495Is it genuinely possible Cover dropped the ball THAT hard behind the scenes with their unknown changes?
>>90536495Mommy nooooooo.
>>90536495Here we go again
What the fuck is happening to EN vtubing.
>>90536495>>90536521DEI is slowly killing Hololive
>>90536495>Holo graduation queue is realGrim
DEFCON 1 PLEASE SOMEONE MAKE DEFLECTION THREADS ABOUT NIJI OR SOMETHING
>>90536495
>>90537274damn...........
What the absolute fuck is going on?
>>90537240BROS. HOW DID FALSE GET IT WRONG??
>Big exciting things happening in 2025>Hololive only grows stronger >:3>"Let me guess, "TwO mOrE wEeKs"
>>90537169where is the source to this?
>>90537274>saying goodbye to all 914,434 of my subscribersnext stream
>>90536495Saplings my condolences
>>90536495holy shit
>>90536495based come join us fauna the grass is greener here
Can someone explain this shit to me? Seriously
oh no!!anyway...
>>90536495/#/ is finally dead
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
>>90536495Not surprising at all, but who the fuck is the idiot that said "Yeah, let's announce this a couple of days after another graduation announcement"
Green Woman Curse attacks againit can only be ONE
my sympathies for her fans (not the /#/ streetshitters though, they deserve this)
Nijichads stay winning.
>>90536495I pray it turns out ok, for you other lings.
>>90536495doubt it
I don't know why but I blame vshojo
>>90536495I'm not a sapling myself but if she will actually graduate now I will see to it that Yagoo graduates irl.This can't continue.
>>90536495guys it's really not that big of a deal, she's just gonna announce that she finally conceived (with me)
>>90537527it's either that or a graduation queue, pick your poison
>/#/'s might potentially lose their mascot tonightgonna bring out the fine wine
>>90536495Doki really destroyed corpo vtubing, not only niji. Fucking BASED!
>>90537322but fauna respects niji and elira, stop hating on mommy pls. she has nothing to do with all out war.
>>90536495I thought you were fucking with me. What the fuck is going on?
>thread has been stickied
>>90536495Yagoo-sama, a 7th graduation has hit the holo building
Uuuh. What.
the important announcement is the emo song with Mumei right?
OWARI
The destroyer of corpo vtubers (and Rosemi)
No way. Cover should pull out all the stops to prevent further graduations at this point.They have to know morale and trust would be in shambles if graduations keep happening. They will make any concessions necessary to keep her.
someone make the every gen graduate chart thing like the niji one but for holos pls
>>90537855They are finally getting married and retiring together so they can have lesbian sex 24/7
So the RM shitposts really were her way to funnel fans to her channel? I was told I needed to take meds when I said it was a red flag...
>>90536495Huh, and here I thought mumei would be the first promise out
>>90536495mommy noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>90536934Lol, Mumei’s house was Council’s love hotel for the longest time.
>>90536495Council is so donezo its not even funny, especially if Mumei is next
>>90536495good job Yagoo "best girl" youre really fucked things up
I mean, just deserts here. I remember arguing with you fags months ago that even if Niji indisputably is the worse off no matter what Hololive was doing in 2024, Hololive was undeniably having a bad year in comparison to other smaller Vtubing companies still. The chickens are coming home to roost and I have just gotten the last laugh.
>>90537968>move her fans to an asmr channel when she hates doing asmr now????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Nijisanji's January is now Hololive's December
>>90537714
>>90537968Take your meds.
>>90536495explains the activity on the other channel
>>90536764grim
>>90537855OH OHHHH Owarida...
She's going to come back as a generic indie green girl that makes the exact same type of content, to half the numbers in three months. Never underestimate the power of Hololive.
Shondo won...
IT'S FUCKING OVER
>>90538084Hololive EN is in danger.
>>90538186>remember when the Selen shit was going down people were meme posting 'and it's only February...'>tfw now it's nearing December and all this is happeningAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
that thumbnail? that wording? the rm activity? also Bae's post earlier wasn't about chloe, I bet. I also bet mori wasn't too upset because of just Chloe. it's because fauna is also leaving. she's 100 percent done
CC ONLY GREEN IN HOLO ENGLISH WHAT IS THIS TIMELINE
>>90537855>Green heartIt's beyond over.
>>90538261but at least she'll be happy
>>90538292thank godEN is a plague
>>90536495Let me pour a last one for all those mommy-less spalings that wandered into Pomu's stream back in 2022 during a long Fauna hiatus. I will never forget you guys.
>>90537124>>90538060You'll have to find a new mommy soon methinks
>>90537971You thought the girl with the laziest streams and the most slop-guzzling fans was quitting the gravy train that easy? Lol anon, lmao even
ame and fauna gone. someone check up on the librarian.
>>90537169
this is just like my Marvel movies...fuck
She's been posting on her roommate's channel a lot lately, so I wouldn't be surprised.
>>90538292The sooner it dissolves the better.
>>90536495Is 2024 the year of the final yab? Hololive seems to be crumbling
IT HAS NEVER BEEN MORE OVER
>>90538353CC too strongShe's objectively the best green woman
>>90537855Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. MOMMY IS NOT GRADUATING.
>>90537855This shit is done
Karma is real.
>>90537169it's because they hired a bunch of sisters to kill it from the inside
>>90536495OH NONONONONONO why would nijisisters do this...
>>90536495It's fucking over hololive is deadWe had a good run
WHAT IS FUCKING HAPPENING WHAT IS HAPPENING WHAT
>>90536495white background and smileit's so fucking over
>>90537855Eh, council was always mid
>>90510266Okay time traveler, mind giving us the QRD?
REV UP THOSE COLLABS
Biggest reason to hold out hope is that you'd think management would want to space these out and not drop two announcements in as many daysBut who the fuck knows at this point
>all the lazy bitches either silent quitting or graduating Addition by subtraction. If they don’t want to work a job, then they can go flash their crotch on Chaturbate for money.
COUNCIL/PROMISE DOWN TO 4 MEMBERS AGAIN
>>90538292This was always gonna happen. The Pandemic caused an unnatural boom that resulted in way more people becoming vtubers than the market could actually support. This scene needs to be like 40% smaller.
>>90536495What the fuck is happening behind the scenes?
FAUNA KILLER
>Holotards shitpost about a niji graduation queue>In reality there's a literal Holograduation queue
>>90538532100%
BIG NOSE WESTERN INVESTORS DID THIS
>>90538719GrimCursed gen
mumei retweeted.. this is fucking serious sapling bros....
that's what being forced to play league
>>90537169Kirsche was right
>>90538697>drop two announcements in as many daysHow is cover more retarded than niji now???
>>90538715>Addition by subtraction. If they don’t want to work a job, then they can go flash their crotch on Chaturbate for money.Aaaah it's starting.>Actually she was always shit, and the company cannot ever do anything wrong. I'm very glad she is quitting actually.
>>90536495fuck
>>90538825she's next
>>90538807more like old japanese boomer investors
>>90538267
>>90538753TOTAL DECECIMATION OF THE SAPLINGS
>EN is just going to be Mori and Kiara at this point
>holos and nijis dropping like flies>meanwhile it has been 600 days since the last person left Phase Connect. 27/28 talents still togetherhow do they do it
>>90536521>what the fuck is cover doing i havent followed hololive since 2023There have definitely been huge contract fights in HoloEN for at least 2 or 3 years. I really want to believe that Fauna is announcing a song but a part of me knows she wouldn't use "the serious kind" for her announcement unless it was a bad announcement. Gura, Ina, Ame, Kronii and Mumei aren't the only talents that are upset with management but I never thought it would get this bad.
>>90537855>>90538525It's so fucking over
>>90538383Pomu was great until she started getting insecure over her slowed growth
saplingkeks lost
>>90538887Blackrock is a Cover shareholder now anon
desu i dont even watch fauna but I'm gonna miss seeing her model and i feel a lil bad for the promise girls. oh well.
>>90536495Why hasnt anything been leaked yet? No one knows about this new change in direction?
Another whore for the Vshojo retirement home
I'm more shocked with how shion is fucking streaming at this hour, kek.
>>90536495Oof. I hope she's active on her old account. I'm definitely following her if she keeps streaming.
>>90536495AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAbut seriously wtf is going on with cover?
not my oshinot my problem
Vshojo wonKson was right
>>90538719>promise brokenJesas Council is fucking cursed.
>>90538844Many, many, MANY such cases. THEY don't want to admit it!
Uhh, Holobros? I thought we weren't a black company...
she's not graduating before getting 1mil subs
this is karmic retribution lmao
>>90538849I've always said nijiniggers and holodrones were two sides of the same coin
>>90537971Nonstreamers have no reason to quit, it's the streamers who will leave first. It's how Gura is somehow still here
I hope you monkeys learn this time that English speaking vtubers were a mistake
Homo gods wining
>>90536495The signs were there.
>>90538964Go read the notes from shareholder calls anon, its all there.Shareholders are pissed talent have too much control and paid too much, they demand more profit and "safety" for sponsorships
>>90538936>dead, dying ovaries etc etc
So all this feels like, management overhaul late 2022, early 2023, she resigned her contract somewhere 2023 and now didnt resign because nothing substantial changed
Women are so stupid. This is like when a literally-who bassist or drummer joins an established band, becomes uber rich and famous, but leaves because they don't feel "fulfilled" due to their insecurity and low self-esteem. These chicks have the smoothest gravy train of all time, earning a degree in biology (which I also have) and working as a lab tech (which I've also done) isn't going to give you fulfillment. It would be a huge mistake to graduate to chase a wagie job.
Jesus who's next on the affiliation queue...
>>90538904And Advent except FWMC and Justice except ERB.It's not that bad.
Bro, are they enforcing that you have to learn to sing or something what is happening what the fuck
>>90539018The best part about not having an oshi is that you can laugh at everyone's misfortunes.
Didn't Promise just announce some big musical in December?I guess that's her final Faunwell.
>>90538084>sana left>fauna and mumei on their way out >kronii going to uni while already being a lazy underachiever in hololive>bae and irys lusting over japanese cockIt's actually even more grim than Myth.
damn, literally yesterday i was telling myself that no matter how bad things get in my life irl, at the end of the day i can always escape to fauna's stream and feel comfort once more...
it'll just be a formal hiatus or something.they would not seriously announce 2 graduations in 24 hours unless fauna is getting fired.
First Sana and now Fauna. How long before an advent member graduates? Why was Council cursed?
>>90536844>>90536708Kek you're right aren't you. Mori is in your face cancer but it's always Amelia that starts the ball rolling when something truly cancerous like the homocollabocaust of 2022 began.
I’ve been telling you Hololive is just as rotten as Nijisanji, they’re just better at hiding it. The mask is slowing cracking
>>90537123I mean, with all the perms, and restrictions, and work they have to do for CONSTANT 3d idol content, its no surprise its causing burnouts desu
>>90539167made me laugh in my sadness
>>90538956yeah, a whopping 0.3% or somethingthey have zero power over it, it's likely the old jap boomers who hate hololive giving their employees a decent wage and powers. they want to go back to their good old days when they could do whatever they wanted
SHUT THE FUCK UPCOVER IS NOT LETTING HER GRADUATEThey HAVE to know that it would be fucking DISASTROUS for their image to have so many graduations in a row. They should and will do everything in their power to keep her. Don't panic.
>>90539109
Well, where the fuck are Saplings even gonna move to? Shiori? I don't even know.
>>90539145>sharefags ask for the society to burn for them>Society does it>Everyone losesSeriously, share market is for retarded and this is the one thing this entire board can agree.
>>90538261With ASMR!
shondo won
>>90536521They became a publicly traded company and the investors are pushing for things that the talents don't want.
>>90536495TOTAL EN DEATH
>>90536495On the one hand I feel sorry for saplings but on the I other I enjoy the faggots from /#/ suffering - and this will hurt them more than most other Holos leaving.
>>90539175>>kronii going to uniNot happening btw she talks about going back every year but never does it
>>90538739HoloEN's still doing great numbers/money-wise, though, it's not like any of them are leaving because they're struggling to make ends meet. It's the indies and small corpos that are struggling to get a foothold.
>>90539218>How long before an advent member graduates?Depends on how fast FWMC can funnel their fans over.
This is all work you marks. They're all returning at holofes next year
My feet... They're turning brown...
>>90537152It always existed outside of hololive, it's just many /#/fags will soon have to choose their oshi or their company.
>>90536495IPO really was the final yab
Somehow this doesnt feel shocking with show sporadic her streams seem to be.
runs the cleanest and most stable vtubing agency in your path
It's over....
Gigi graduation when? I want honse back
It's just creative differences though and the company going is a different direction, definitely no yabs right? This is just Niji but without a streamer coming out about offing themself. Same cope would have happened otherwise
Wait, but /#/ told me she was always incliningWhat happened?
>>90537152Western whores outgrew the usefulness of corpos
>>90536495>The serious kind.Look, I'm no huge fan of Hololive, but I need to say it.HOLY SHIT! What the hell is going on with Cover and Hololive? Three members in less than 3 three months?
>>90539307>They HAVE to know that it would be fucking DISASTROUS for their image to have so many graduations in a row.They don't have to pretend to care anymore. Fauna will be an "affiliate" like the other two. Remember to thank Ame for this.
There can only be one green
>>90537169Why is Diversity, equity, and inclusion bad when Hololive is still super stingy with whom they hire?
fuck now I'm dooming in my head about kronii. she's gone literal months without any activity on her rm shit before and suddenly streamed 3 times in like 6 weeks and put out a cover...
So not a big deal like sakamoto chloe right? Holobros?
its faunover bros... pack it up. Gura next
Dooki ruined vtubing
Ina is next in line btw
>Lemonleaf is coming backAnd my day just got exponentially better
Screenshot this, it's just extended Christmas break
>>90537274>she still hasn't hit 1m in over 3 years>It's realI knew council always sucked but damn fauna.
>>90536495If they hurt Gura it will be the end.
>>90538807>spoilerdoes he know?
>Invents "affiliation" status where you get passive money without doing anything>everyone lazy signs up for it.Rip what you sow.
>>90539313line must go up
>>90538849Point out whenever I said a good thing about either Fauna or Cover that would imply I’m turning around on a previously held position, you schizoid mong?
>>90539095Pretty much. I guess management sat everyone down a while back to talk about changes they were making to go more businessy, and then gave people an out if they wanted out. The real question is, was Aqua actually given that option and turned it down, or was it actually something Ame came up with or influenced? >>90539133I'm actually impressed the schizo won for once. He's still a piece of shit, but I'm impressed.>>90539122I guess so. Both of them followed each other very recently, so I'd be very surprised if they don't work together at some point. If notFauna plans on streaming, they'd probably game pretty well together. Even more if you include Mint. Does anyone remember the PL so I can give that a sub?
Faund bitch
>no Faunamart in Enreco 2 HOLD ME ANONS
>>90539168This. Everyone can get fucked for all I care.
>>90539516Everybody knows that's bullshit though. Cover can't be so stupid to think that's good enough.
It's now evident that everyone just wants to openly do whore stuff as an indie, or in a corpo that lets them
>>90539122Am I the only one who doesnt like her? I like mint but not her
>>90539587Gura would have to stream to quit streaming
it should have been kroni... why her
>>90539590>Rip what you sow.
>>90539590it's "reap what you sow" idiot
Being a holo is just too tough to handle.
>>90536495Just wait until you hear about Mumei and Ina.Hololive took inspiration from Nijisanji and implemented their own graduation queue
This is going to hurt.
Uooh jannies are working hard
>>90539218>How long before an advent member graduates?FWMC will dip the moment they find a Japanese sugar daddy to give them the citizenship.
>>90536495Something BIG happened behind the scenes. What the fuck was it. Can someone actually investigate this.
>>90539440Who would have though that hiring the actually mentally ill women would be the best strategy.
do holobronies still feel high and mighty? still wanna shitpost in support of doki? feeling good about blue dorito?
when this turns out to be nothing will all the absolute fucking retards in this thread that think the OP is right publicly walk back their retardation?
>>90539497Holo is forcing talent to become more like mascots and performers and less like streamers anon.Basically Anime Disney.Does nobody except a few autist catch up with shareholder meetings? Their direction shift is all spelled out in them.
the worst part of this is that I have to watch her collab with Shondo again
>>90539154>It would be a huge mistake to graduate to chase a wagie job.>he thinks that she will go back to be a wagieshe posted videos on her RM for a reason retard
>>90539590brownfeet... it's reap, not rip.
>>90539687>Everybody knows that's bullshit thoughAme's fanbase ate that shit up.>SHE'S THE NEW A-CHAN!
>>90539776you haven't seen what the rest of EN are tweeting...it's over anon
SHE DIDN'T EVEN FINISH THE FUCKING TREE YET THIS IS HORSE SHIT
>>90539313>>90539145>>90538964Boomers always do this, Ford vs. Dodge (1919) set the cancerous precedent. Why pay your workers when you can give the CEO and the shareholders lots of dividends? And then the workers leave and the company falls out of the sky, just like Boeing planes. Boomers don't care because they aren't wage workers, they only cared 40 years ago when they were the 'new guy' trying to make it in a workplace dominated by their parents but now that they're the CEO and executive managers they've decided you have to take the hit for their portfolio's sake.
Pointed hats point the way, Scarlet Wand will no longer stay
>>90539154Anon you are not an emotional young woman turned Christmas cake in front of thousands of fucking people dealing with some annoying fans and schizos, jap cultural differences especially regarding work, and seeing peers possibly start families. It makes sense why the hags are harder to break even if the offset is they are total menheras
>>90539018You guys learned nothing from earlier this year. Karma is real and is going to get you eventually.
>>90536495Saplings...
>>90539789>Holo is forcing talent to become more like mascots and performers and less like streamers anon.Somehow I dont think Hololive needs to "force" them. There's some like Gura who just don't do anything.
what the FUCK is going on behind the scenes at cover??
the announcement is going to be merch and you faggots will feel mighty silly about it
>>90536495>two graduations in two daysThey must have so many coming they can’t space them out.
I think this is the start of a sea change with Hololive. We're officially entering a new era
HAHAHA I feel so fucking vindicated right now after people tried to wave hand her reviving her pl literally out of nowhere, this is it
>>90539818>Jason Newsted joins Metallica>leaves to chase his own project>now he's poor and selling his instruments on ReverbFAFO
League did this
so if it is a graduation we gunna see fauna and kronii reconcile collab in the lead up to her final day
Man, seriously? There really has to be some shit going down with Cover with all of these front-facing people leaving this year. Who knows what the fuck it is, but it's obvious this isn't everyone either.6 years of working hard to build a name of being trustworthy and reliable, just to fuck it all over by changing course so hard that a large chunk of the talents you picked up and fostered just want to get the hell out of dodge.
>>90538383Thanks for watering me
>the graduation queue was realApologize to False
man
>>90539924It would be pretty funny
If it's just a nothingburger or a joke then you all owe me a beer. Otherwise, well, I already saw how fucking boring these girls are when they go indie so have a good life green woman I guess.
>>90539862At least Sana finished her tower. Fauna is so fucking lazy.
I don't understand. She of all people seemed INCREDIBLY happy to be in the position she has. She knows how good of a job it is. Like it has to be extreme for her to give that up. This isn't like Chloe or Ame being burnt out of the expectations. Fauna legit loved being Fauna.What the hell, man?
>>90536764>>90538236LmaoWHO WOULD WINA 10 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANYOR ONE AUTISTIC INDIAN LIVING IN CANADA?
>>90536495Advent babies here, how should I feel about this?
>>90539862She got [whatever time] before the real gradution
i got doki and mint back this year and i can get lemonleaf back this year too hahaha
>>90539763Hiring the ones that are honest about their mental illnesses is better than hiring ones that try to hide it
>>90539218> Why was Council cursed?Because they hired dog shit with a big “portfolio” and the appearance they’d work with the homos based on past attitudes towards intergender collabs.
>>90539528Kronii doesn't have the drive to go indie. You're fine.
>>90536495karma for numberbrows, but I feel bad for the real saplings
>>90539924This doesn't feel like something you would do for a merch drop. At most a sololive or something larger in scope.
>>90539597>Line proceeds to go down
>>90540039THE ANSWER WILL SHOCK YOU!
I mean she's turning like 38 next year. its time for her to move on to important things. fuck man... Hololive was kinda a waste of time for her. RIP
>>90539961Reminds me of how I felt saying Ame was going to graduate for months.
>>90539260I blame Mori for forcing the workaholics, high pumping out style. Burning EN out and making even people like Kiara and Bae insecure about their achievements
>>90536495HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>90536495No way Cover is gonna do this right after Chloe
>>90539590It's a doggy dog world man. Lazy streamers are a diamond dozen.
>>90538261>half the numbersNot bad considering no corpo oversight or cut taken out of her earnings
>>90539590mommy is not lazy and has been actively streaming this year, if mommy graduates this is definitely an issue with upper management and future directions, im so sad and gutted...
Wait...did Fauna play in Mori's mario party?
>>90540058You should be sad since Advent members love their senpai and Hololive
Orange woman and Pink woman will be the only HoloEN vtubers left by Christmas next year
>>90539528Kronii and gura are the only vtubers for whom "she's back and streaming every day" is actually a warning sign lelmao.
>>90539854The rest of them aren't tweeting anything you lying sack of shit.
>the serious kindHopefully she announces that she stopped being vegan. It's okay Fauna, we're simply higher up on the food chain, it's the natural order of things.
>>90539862SHE DIDNT EVEN FINISH SLIENT HILL 2 with GG those were Kino
>>90536495I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD
>>90536495>All the ones who don't like performing on stage are leavingInteresting
>>90536495graduation might be too soon afer the last announcement, indefinite hiatus maybe?
Woah I was almost getting into Fauna recently looks like I got lucky.
>>90536495Nijisanji WON bigly
I fucking told you guys this was why she was making LL videos all of a sudden. To shift people to that channel.
>>90536642>brown
>>90540119So she still has some eggs left in her. I still have time
leaflings we are so back
>>90539154You always have Holostars
>>90536495She will execute bronwfeet on stream
So they're definitely all leaving then, at least gura too eventually
Everything is fine everything is fineEVERYTHING IS FINEHOLOLIVE CAN JUST HIRE MORE GIRLS
>>90540220This is going to be like the death of JP gacha games compared to the Chinese ones, these retards don't know what the audience wants kek.
So how many holo members have to graduate before gura finally does it?
Don't worry Calliope is participating in VCR GTA to save everyoneYABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>90540220>only dedicated hags and actual idols will be leftHololive is healing.
What about the 1 million wish...
>>90539955>sea changeUMISEA....
>>90539520the superior green woman
what the fuck cover. people don't just decide to quit in one day. they have months of being unhappy. those were months cover could have done something to fix problems. my oshi seems happy and isn't leaving yet, but this is killing the spirit of hololive. where the fuck is Jap? wasn't he going to fix this?
>>90540153Its the opposite, other green creature was there.
It's unbelievable how fucking over it is. What the fuck happened? Everything was fine until what, three fucking months ago?
>>90539486Depends on what you mean by yab. I can see everyone eyeing the exit door after learning of the investor turnaround. Cover isn't a black company, and it seems Ame/Chloe/Fauna are bowing out while it remains that way.
>>90539854mori and bae tweeted 12ish hours ago vague "something sad happened" tweets. I'm not finding jack shit more recent than that or form anyone else
>>90536642You unironically lost anon. He won. The first schizo in /vt/'s history to do so.
>>90536671>But Chuddha, what if-?>It won't
>>90539540You have been saying this the LAST SEVERAL people. If you forget your hate boner for ONE second you would see the large picture in front of you.
>>90539776I hope you're right.
>>90538753Her Brap broke Nature itself
>>90538849Posters like you will pretend like Fauna didn't already have a ton of antis on /vt/
>>90540320thats the plan. and new each gen will be more soulless than the last. its over
This retard just had to go public with the company, that always fucks up priorities and screws over the talent.
>>90537473Serious concerns, nothing confirmed.
>mel, A-chan, ame, aqua, chloe>possibly fauna in 2 hoursHoly shit
>>90540385There is too many of them.
>trump re-elected>lemonleaf is backBest timeline
>>90540369The upgraded model drove Fauna out...
>>90536495Never really watched her (more of a twitch guy) but oof, condolences to the saplings.What the fuck is happening at Cover?
>>90540119>fuck man... Hololive was kinda a waste of time for her.I mean it presumably made her a shitload more money than doing anything else with that time would have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_6XuUoMBp8&t=4745
>plays league of legends on stream>graduatesSad!
>>90536495Hololive is getting even worse than Nijisanji with the graduations now, what the hell is happening?
>>90540385Think about it, all went wrong since A-chan left. That's all I'll say.
>>90540058>FWMC will be studying closely to see how well she retains her fans.>Shiori doesn't care>Nerissa is too far up Kiara's ass to care>Not Kaela so Bijou doesn't give a shit either
>>90537169i beleeb it
Can holofags now finally admit that their corpo sucks? Cover has always been bad. Being better than niji isn't much of an achievement. Hope all the girls manage to get out soon, and find success in whatever they choose to do.
Did they get new managers or something?
>>90539555Can't wait! I love Lemonleaf and when eddy drops in too!
>>90540365>where the fuck is Jap? wasn't he going to fix this?Jap autism is the root of all evil within Hololive.
>>90536521>Nijigger harassed Aloe>started the curse on the company>Cover fired Mel>also started the curse on the company
>>90540465I sincerely doubt she will come back as lemonleaf, or if she does it'll be a dramatic shift in content at least. She seems burnt out on ASMR.
>>90540444What, you don't like enshittification acceleration?
>>90539527They’re super stingy with whom they hire FOR ON-SCREEN TALENTS. Behind the scenes, they don’t apply anywhere near the same diligence.
>>90540010>Cover becomes publicly traded>Investors push for more and more idolshit>All the members who joined because they want to be a silly anime girl on the internet and don't actually care about idolshit start leaving citing "creative differences">What's going on guys???? Why's everyone leaving??????
>>90539307>COVER IS NOT LETTING HER GRADUATE>They HAVE to know that it would be fucking DISASTROUS for their image to have so many graduations in a row.Anon, an employer can't force an employee to not quit.
Why couldn't this be Kiara or FWMC instead. I blame League of Legends for this and will now anti Gigi.
>>90539924eh, it being a total troll would be pretty mean, and if it was a positive announcement she'd probably attach it to a normal stream.Best case scenario is that she's announcing a long break, maybe because of something that happened super suddenly.
>another corpo going full /lig/this is your reminder of who actually runs this board
So yagoo still good? Cover still good? Talents are still happy?
>>90540178I could see Gura just leaving suddenly with no fanfare.
>The supposed fauna fans the moment she changes channels.
>>90536495Will it be?>HOLOLIVE AFFILIATE or>HOLOLIVE GRADUATION
https://poal.me/gdhqcnhttps://poal.me/gdhqcnhttps://poal.me/gdhqcn .
>>90536495I told all you fuckers that shit was going down at Cover, but everyone just called me a "sister" and that I'm "stirring shit up". This is the result of your ignorance and refusing to listen to me when it finally happens. Maybe fucking listen to me next time. Or not, and continue having this happen. You all deserved this.
>>90540634>buckbroken by 2 hours of work a day
>>90540489THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE !!
>>90538261>halfThat's optimistic don't you think
>>90539486Likely, Myth and Promise joined a completely different company. We might need a few more months to assess whether or not absurd amounts of overworking are happening though.
>>90540119Please tell me she's not that old
>Graduation que is real>JP then EN pattern is realI wanna see how people are gonna cope about this now, nobody thought that there would be another fucking graduation this year after Chloe but here we are not even a week later lmao. No wonder they wanted to merge council with Irsy, gonna be the 1st gen to lose 2 people
>>90538577
>>90536495 im gonna kill myself bro
>>90538525>everything will be okayBae we all know that no one says that for a good announcement. I can't believe that Fauna might be announcing a graduation and 2024 really is going to be a worse year than 2022.
Please.... anything but graduation...
>>90540385Going public. Don’t worry though. Mori and Kiara, your favorites, aren’t going anywhere.
>>90540593She's posted two shitpost videos on lemonleaf's youtube channel in the past few weeks, anon.And one was an ASMR
>>90540642I know that, I meant that they will bend over backwards to accommodate her. If she's unsatisfied with something, they should fix it.
>>90540678Since the VISA stuff with Ina they're all dead to me, they deserve worse than liquidation.
>>90540771At least wait a few hours for the confirmation, imagine if its just an extra merch sale or a small hiatus
>>90540559Shut up and have some respect for cover/anycolor, yagoo and riku made vtubing great and mainstream enough that it got introduced into the west/EN side audience. you wont be a vtuber fan without them.
Ohhhh, so that's who the & is!
>>90540687If not big tittied green woman I don't care, simple as.
You all owe Nijisanji an apology. I'll start, I'm sorry, you aren't the blackest company, you won.
>>90540010She only loves her cat she doesn't need anything else.>>90539862>>90540008>sana was actually a credit to team doing more in 1 month than fauna did in 3 yearsWhat a world. Imagine a timeline where she got Gyaru Bikini Sana casual clothes and started gaining numbers.
>>90540561They probably hired some trannies.
>>90536543A-chan leaving was the death of the future of Hololive. She was the chosen one, the promised heir to captain the direction of the company.
come on over saplings
>>90540758That wasn't the reason, they did that far before anyone would have even been talking about this.Instead people should be wondering what the fuck Cover is doing to shake up the talents this bad.
>>90536495SNO is all leaving kek. Thank god the most cancer fanbases on this board won't be here in 2 months.
>>90540664Yeah. 27 talents, 3 years and only 1 termination.
We shouldn't be friends, indeed.
How can NijiEN capitalize on a period of mass Hololive graduations and revitalize itself?
>>90536495She got a dude and she is taking a break with him. This is my cope.
>>90536495>>90540369>Mori's cliche has been pushing Gura/Kiara's group outThis is my rrat.
pillowdear about to get a YUGE influx
>>90540852It would be incredibly tone deaf of her to drop a sudden "We need to talk" style waiting room just for "hey new merch :3" considering Chloe's graduation announcement
>Council down to 3holy shit
Fauna realized she could get the Ame deal and not be forced to sing since they are both bad at it and do lives. Holy based Ame going to kill off any non idol inspired talents in Hololive.
>>90540128>merely doing your job normally is terrifying to lazy people
>>90538261So the same amount of money and she can play anything she wants and talk to anyone she would like to wow how horrible
>>90540852it's over dude
EN talents either just waiting their turn to leave, or are too fucking lazy to stream. The dream is over.
>>90540865I've been watching vtubers since Kizuna AI.
You look like a good Joe, Saplings.
>>90540962By poaching the talent leaving hololive. They of course will never succeed in doing this, so they can't.
>>90540921Hina is leaving in January. It is the most obvious graduation since Yuko in Idol.
>>90536521Homework.It's literally that simple.
>>90540807IT'S FUCKING OVER
lemonleaf shondo collab when?
>>90540962Fire all of their talent and then offer millions of dollars to Dobi, Mint, Fauna and Doki
I can't believe brownfoot won
>>90540921We're getting Gura soon too btw
Covid 2 will fix this
>>90540999And it's not the RGB trio... MY FUCKING AESTHETIC YOU WHORES!!
>>90540684Possibly not even bothering to graduate. Just never streams again and people only notice after about a year that something is (more) weirder than before.
>>90540975Mori doesn't have to do anything to push them out, its more that a lack of inaction that does that. Why bother streaming when they're checked out and they'll still make money anyways.
>>90540999>entire gen of normalfagsWhat could possibly go wrong?
>>90537583They made kai kidnap her and force a graduation.
>We arn't friendsGood to see karma come back to this bitch
>>90536495I hate her why would she do this I don't want her to go...
>>90540881Don't make me post the 2024 graduation chart.
>>90540448The fifth member of Justice that refused to debut.
>>90540369should've been Ollie not Fauna
Brownfeet wonWe lost
>>90541061I've been watching this chick for months and Fauna on the side too, with no idea about any connection between them. Am I a retard?
Fauna is going to announce that she actually is The Librarian and got a job offer as the official clipper for her oshi NorthernLion
>>90536495Gura and Mumei are nextscreencap this
The chickens are coming home to roast.
>>90540807I just checked her channel and neither of these exist you lying faggot.
>>90538844>>90539031I will NOT drink ketchup out of the bottle like you Kirsche
>>90541111You know what? This is an okayish way for the monkey's paw to curl.
>>90536495HOW THE FUCK IS FAUNA GRADUATING BEFOEE GURA OR MUMEI AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Fauna will announce she's not leaving and then all you /lig/gers will mald!
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1862990280959336936
1 year and 8 months straight of sapling hate and he did it. He actually did it.
>This is why Justice debuted so quickly after AdventWould not be surprised if another EN member leaves within the next few months at this point after yet another JP member first. Cover shills, what's the cope now?
So which girl will Saplings migrate to?
>>90541207i hope northernlion dies a painful death and leaves his child and wife behind solely so you faggots can stop talking about him here
>>90541204there is no connection aside from retards here pushing pillow to saplings
>>90541061not now, dear...
>>90536521Same thignas always.
>>90540807I don't count that hurricane video as asmr. Its a fun little shitpost though I guess
>>90541143This. It was a pretty low quality gen from the get-go, had it not been for Myth preceding them they would have been much less successful
>>90541269WHAT THE FUCK DOES SHE KNOW?
What is the meaning of life anymore?
>>90540807>one was an ASMR
>>90538697My guess is that it's contract renegotiations that soured because japanese company we aren't gonna so shit for you about anything you might be unhappy about just resign please understand autism and a lot are choosing to leave around the same time. So a jp girl graduates and they stack an en on since the branches are distant enough in terms of fans
>Cover goes public>streamers get overworked>more streaming/creativity restrictions to appeal to (((shareholders)))>vtuber tech is way more accessible now and any retard can do it without an org backing them>the streamers all leave to retire or go indieHow does Yabba Yagoo do it?Does he think more concerts will save the org?
>>90541269It's actually over
>>90541016>idol work is just gaming streamingLOL go watch Keala then and stop shitting in this thread. Oh wait she's been "lazy" too by your metric. Fuck off.
It's so over
>>90541292Gigi, nearly same timeslot and somewhat similar personalities
heh, that's what you get for laughing at Altare when he said the company was being a piece of shit
>>90541292I will never be able to get emotionally invested in a vtuber ever again
Riifu won
>>90541230>roasting Haaland on fucking /vt/ in a graduation threadNow that is pure hatred.
depressing af, hang in there saplings
Shes not graduating CAP this
>>90536495ASMR announcement?
>>90541292Mori. Because they kill themselves.
>>90541353She knows jap corpos went full retard because of stocks
>>90541268How will you cope when it actually happens?Honestly how could anyone sit around and cope with multiple EN talents making posts about holding strong this morning, along with weird shit like this >>90541269
>>90539302>they have zero power over itBlackrock controls companies through private equity loans, more than purchase of stocks. Hololive puts up the DEI statement, starts rotting the company from within by pushing a Woke religion, and Blackrock just gives them ridiculously cheap money in exchange.A publicly traded company like Hololive practically has to go for it, because the shareholders will throw an absolute hissyfit, if they ignore that opportunity.
>>90536642Can't believe he won.
>nooo stop panicking it's probably just a merch announcement
>>90539282>CONSTANTFauna hasn't released a song on her channel in 2 years. I don't know if I've seen her do any idol activity besides Holofes either. I sure hope she isn't working a lot on idol content, because she's sure not getting much out of it.
>>90541269She's getting scooped up by the anti-corpo crew... It's so over...
>>90541137I honestly think Gura and Mumei still want to be in Holo and are just being held up by health issues and other real-life bullshit. Moom in particular I'm guessing just signed up for a massive course load this semester for civilization duties because she knows her spring semester is getting fucked by Holofes.
>>90541412They forgot what made them successful. The talents and their streams.
It's god's punishment for numberfagging.
>>90538909They are either too small or untalented.
tick tock holosistersNijiSWEEP
>>90538764how is it a queue if it were 2 in the same week?
>>90541449>get emotionally investedThis is where you fucked up.
>>90541282they brought in ERB to be the face of the new direction Hololive is going
>>90541486grim
>>90541554No, Niji still sucks.
https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1862814090793812163https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1862799555236163617https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1862906572063858819They're all sad, and all say it's gonna be ok. 100% guaranteed a graduation
>>90541433They seethe at gigi thoughever.
>>90540910They're bringing Adventkeks with them?
>>90541534Some real top tier delusion right here
>>90541269She was talking about "changes" happening in vtubing in her stream earlier, it's looking real close to confirmed
>>90541046kizuna ai wasnt a true vtuber until she reinvented herself into a streamer in the mold of nijisanji and hololive, before then she was seen as a meme anime girl who posts funny short videos. mito changed the landscape, and made vtubing the way it is now.
green ladies keep dying
>>90540237That picture and the talent tweets scream "stopping all streaming activities but will be a partner." Cover is probably intentionally encouraging some talents to leave or declining to renew their contracts given the speed we're seeing. All signs point to the company changing its priorities and pruning the ones that aren't meeting those. Might not even be the last graduation we see before 2025. Betting streaming numbers/supas mean very little for the company beyond a certain threshold and the priorities are now more based on a talent's marketability, work ethic and potential for sponsorships.
>>90541644>jp>jp>jp
>>90536843before no homosnow homos a plenty
>>90541412We're witnessing the end of Hololive, or at least the end of Hololive's peak. From now on either they go back and try to play their cards better on sink even deeper into their now ideas. Had a good run I guess, loved this company for many years.
>>90536495No wonder we got Justice so soon after Advent, they knew Council was planning a suicide pact
>>90536495This is where we find out she's expecting and she's retiring to settle down with her husband
>>90541685She also said she hopes we aren't too sad. I thought it was about Chloe but...
>>90540999>implying mumei doesn't already have one foot out the door
>>90541486Saplings saw this and were coping that she's just shitposting. Yeah, reviving a dead account after 3 years to post regularly again is definitely not a sign of things to come
>>90541710Mito is one of the most important vtubers in history but saying kizuna was not a vtuber because of the different format is retarded
>>90541433Oh god please no
oh no
This is all League of Legends (and Gigi's) fault...
>>90541539>"ree must have birrion more concerts and brand corrab">"rawt you mean you rant puray horror game? that's not approved!"
>>90541710She coined the term, you retard.
>>90536843Probably going harder on keeping a clean image or just more restrictions in general. I doubt male collabs being pushed is what is going to turn in profits. They're going to want to reduce risks.
>>90541292pillowdearasmr
>>90541292I will quit watching vtubers entirely
>>90541534Mumei will 100% graduate when she finishes civ duties so she can become a wagie.
>>90541710>mito changed the landscape, and made vtubing the way it is now.nobody knows who this is
Its so fucking over holy fuck.
>>90541832>have one foot out the doorThat's a pretty tone deaf thing to say about her
>>90536642Lore on this guy?
>>90536495>Ame>Aqua>Chloe>Mumei>FaunaEveryone close to Gura in one sense or another is being impacted. What the hell is going on!?
the word is "enshittification"capitalism is a disease.
>>90539175GRIMGRIMGRIM
Even Nerissa RM tweeted. It really is over
>>90541292if they actually like her then they'd move over to her former channel wholesale
>>90541269Now you remember when fauna raided into mint
Long hiatus because of pregn.. I mean health issues.Kinda like Gura.
>>90539337wait... did this also cause achan's leaving?
>>90542037Hololive wouldn't exist without capitalism
>>90541233>discord shitDon’t care, Kirsche was right.
Hololive gave these ungrateful bitches everything they have and how do they repay this debt? By bailing out IMMEDIATELY after they are asked to do more than play a bit of video games once a week.>h-hey can you work a bit more than two hours a day three days a week so we can record all this stuff we need? i-if you want>c-can you fly to japan so we can record some cute dances? w-we'll pay for your trip in its entirety....>fuck you I quit this is too much
>>90541896oh yes
>>90541259>>90541259Gura and Mumei don't stream so they don't feel any pressure compared to people who actually have to work.
it has never been more over than now. “sisters” (anyone who has ever had any criticism of holo) don’t even need to post, just watch and laugh
>>90542037>capitalism>private control over the means of production>hololive is a publicly held companyWow, smart anon.
>>90542056proof?
>>90536843I have a feeling that the talent shows, concerts and sponsorships are bringing in more money than normal streams and are taking a precedence. But I have no clue. It has to be huge to get Fauna to leave.
THIS IS THE END
>>90541710>newfags think the 四天王 weren't vtubersJesas
>>90540805didn't they go public like 2 years ago (my memory is actually pretty trash but it feels like a long time)
>>90541964Then you have improved yourself, Ame would be proud if she wasn't already gone as well
That's it. I'm canceling my hololive official channel subscription!
>>90536495>We want Streamers, not Idols!>Talent graduates and goes indie>Fans lose interest within a week
>>90536521Have you seen the investors meeting logs? It's a bunch of retards and Yagoo holding it back like fucking atlas.
>>90542056She has allergies or a cold
>>90542010Mori won, her suckups are staying and driving out Gura's
>>90541452Both him and Saplings deserve it.
The most telling thing is the fact she didn't put 'not a graduation announcement' in the description. Usually when there's something serious but not a graduation they'll at least put that to help stop all the fearmongering ahead of time. Its absence makes it pretty likely this is a worst-case scenario.
>>90541727yeah, the corpospeak has focused on merch being an avenue of growth. so, singers have double value.this is probably part of why Azki's geoguesser streams were enough to leverage her into a centerpiece of JP.
>>90542108>Nijisanji MADE these livers who they are>Hololive gave these ungrateful bitches everything they haveholodrones really are no better than nijiniggers
Yeah i'm thinking its fucking over
>>90542010>Gura gets paid 4x the salary of the other streamers>Gura then does 3 streams a year and some baseball karaoke>everyone saw this bs and walkedSource: My uncle works at cover
>>90541710Amazing bait
>Lies
>>90541233fat fucking witch claws lmao
>>90541292I'll blow my head off vtuber
>>90542223Mori and the rest of the koolaid drinkers. Something aint right is happening
>>90536495Cover will let me cancel my anniversary order, right?
>>90539353Could she be any more of a useless whore?
>>90540369/vt/ was right, there can be only one green girl.
>>90542265>trends are tailored to the userYou alright anon?
>>90536495LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>90541292I will just become an anti
>>90536495What the FUCK is going on ?
>>90536495man she really did go for a mega corp kill with this one didn't she
Is Fubuki going to schedule a stream and comfort us?
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON IN HOLOLIVE, HOW COME THERE ARE NO LEAKERS LIKE FOR NIJI
>>90539145>Shareholders are pissed talent have too much control and paid too much, they demand more profit and "safety" for sponsorshipsThey are truly retarded at this point, how are they even allowed to have money to begin with? Cannot they see that the talents having enough control are the ones who built the company to begin with?
>>90541727>Cover is probably intentionally encouraging some talents to leave or declining to renew their contracts given the speed we're seeing.Yeah, this is just delusional. If Cover was wanting to push out the talent who weren't earning much compared to how much they cost to support they'd cut loose all of Holostars before they even considered politely asking even the lowest-earning girls to leave.
>>90542101>...was right... into the ketchup bottleWho has it room temperature?
damn i cant believe that fauna is going to join vshojo
GET FUCKED HOLOFAGGOTS THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE FOR BEING A TOXIC FANBASEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>90542451She doesn't care about holo en
>Konfauna~>So.. This stream is exactly what you think it is.. Hold me...
>>90487240
>>90541412We though we had to gate against normalfag. They came from the back door with sharefag retardness.
>>90542567>Saplings... I'm pregnant.
I have been denying all the people doomposting about how the golden age of Cover is older, that the company is declining, things will never be the same, girls will begin to quit more and more often...But I don't think I can do that anymore.I can't believe all the doomposters were right. Hololive's era is over. EN is going to crumble first. THis fucking sucks.
>>90541292They can fuck off as far as I'm concerned. Been acting far too cocky all year and any time you criticized Fauna, you'd get spammed with brownfeet.
>>90540687To be fair, it almost certainly would taste different since you don't have all the proprietary formulas and standardized ingredients and such. It would probably taste better because McDonald's quality control has gone to fucking shit.
>>90541860kizuna only went mainstream after she uploaded her cover version of pewds monika song, before that she was a literal nobody. nijisanji and hololive has bigger lasting impacts, riku and yagoo will always be the two most important person in the industry no matter what hateful comments foreigners spews about their companies, not kuzuha or miko.
>>90542251She literally said its the serious kind in the title because English doesn't have that Japanese formality. She is also not the type to pull this shit after Chloe's announcement because of how bad it would look.But God, dude, I literally was watching her play League last night and she was having a blast. This genuinely feels like it came out of nowhere.
>>90542265Why is suicide hotline at sports?
>>90542600if you read this in a thick indian accent it makes a lot more sense
>>90542301>>90541233I would still marry and love her in a heartbeat.
Saplings should know best, is there really not something else than a graduation that could justify this stream?!
>>90542265>sportsAtléticobros... don't do it
>>90542673You don't want to know
>hololive thread on /jp/ celebrates it
>>90542211kek, what do they want to do?going public when you don't have to is such a huge mistakegiving a bunch of greedy boomers a seat at the table, what could go wrong?
im already having 1 of the absolute worst days of my life and im gonna make myself stay up for a few more hour longer than usual and if she says anything about leaving i might actually fucking end it
>>90542673People care more about sportsball teams than you do vtubers
>>90542693>Being a chubby chaser
>and Gura is still staying
>>90542148Ok, fuck the topic, I have to call you out for posting this without the song, what faggotry is this? And yes, I have the extension.
>>90539145Why are shareholders genuinely the scum of the earth
>>90542484Every JP company does that, anon. Only some like Nintendo don't try to change what built them, that whole country is built on fast marketing and trying to be ahead.
>>90542811yes
>>90542693kirsche is the kind of wife you love spending time with but are embarrassed to show off to other people. and not just because of the weight thing
>>90536495I won't believe it until its confirmed by her specifically and neither should anyone else, OP is misleading
>>90542129Read a book anon. It's publicly traded, meaning shares of the company can be bought and sold anyone. Not that it's collectively owned
>>90542714Her cat died but I'd rather want a graduation if I had a choice
>>90542251Well it's because its technically not a "graduation" because of how she'll still be affiliated with Hololive. But all signs are pointing to Fauna graduating
>>90542859https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co. if you actually want to know
>>90542854she'll be graduating around new years eve. Feel free to screenshot this btw
It's convenient to blame shareholders, but it is probably just bad management. They grew too fast and hired managers who are so bad they're destroying the company.
>>90542756based
Like. Fauna alone has to bring more money in than the entirety of Holostars.
GURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOONGURA SOON>GURA SOON
>>90542943Was on Aqua's graduation thread and said this exact thing before the stream, just give up for your own good brother.
If she goes indie, i hope she streams more than a few times a month like the other lazy fucks
>>90541412Sakuna (and Dooby to a lesser extent) also proved that their fans will follow if they don't leave on bad terms. So if they aren't happy with all the behind the scenes bullshit Cover makes them do then there's no reason to stick around.
what’s wrong? i thought holobronies loved shareholders. they all loved posting quarterly earnings, line go up for cover, line go down for niji :)
Fauna will never leave till Gura is here, that gives me a bad feeling that Gura is also in the queue but is later because of the impact
>>90539422Personally I hope they leave vtubing entirely. They've been nothing but a cancer and I hope they're suffering tonight.
>>90542444Haven't check since fwmc didn't dieHow many actually graduated/terminated?
>>90543127Rushia proved that no one cares
How are you guys rating this arc ? A lot of characters die
I have a fucking pit in my stomach watching the countdown to the stream. Why the hell would Cover let this happen so soon after everything else? The girls should always be the top priority, Hololive is nothing without them. So why are they letting them go?
>mfw I was the first to recognise her during her debut in the global thread>now thisI-It all comes full circle..
>>90543236Who the fuck gave Jun Maeda the reins?/10
>>90539313>>90542967That's not what Ford vs Dodge was.Ford tried to take money that was not HIS and use it for his own means, means which had nothing to do with the company or shareholder contracts. The case says nothing about prioritizing shareholders, it just defines that you have to use the money for the company, e.g. reinvest it somehow. Ford was given ample opportunities in court to claim that he was doing what's right for the company, but he insisted on not doing so, because he was a retard.
>>90543073Gura has been the prototype for the affiliate status this entire time.
>>90537855Council didn't perform as well as they expected
>>90538167she uploaded on the non-asmr channel retard
>>90543236Better than that minecraft dogshit
>>90543235menhera retard prime is an outlier
>>90543002You're not wrong, but what usually what happens is the the board compels the company to hire upper management that are aligned to short term profit and don't know the industry, and then they hire more people under them that destroy the company from the inside
>>90540081man all that means is that she'll just go back to school and disappear, which is even worse
what if... what if she isn't leaving guys? what if it's something else? what if it's good news?
>Fauna wouldn't leave before GuraIs such a retarded argument, because that's like saying that Chloe wouldn't leave without Shion and look where we are now
>>90542949The cat died when exactly?
>>90542092yeah probably
>>90543448HOLY COPE
>>90542663Yes, but 'a serious announcement' could be many different things, not just graduation. And in the past when something serious (but not graduation) happens they'll say 'not graduation' to keep worries in check. It's absent says a lot.
>>90542946>Not that it's collectively ownedWhat do you think shares are? They're shares in the ownership of the company. Publicly traded means it's publicly owned as well.
>>90543236It has been only secondary characters so far, there are around seven holomembers that are vital for the company and none of them have graduated yet
>>90543235You can't tell the difference in these scenarios? Wow, you're fucking stupid.
>>90543448The serious news is that Mumei's graduating.
If you know you know
>>90541412Why the fuck would any company even go public, If they already make shit ton of money? Do they not realise, that most of the shareholders are ready to fuck your company over for just quick pump and dump?
>>90542943I literally told myself that you would have to be stupid to think Chloe would graduate and attach that to her 3rd anniversary then fucking sing, anon.And then God made me the fool.
>>90543509He didn't
Two futures ahead of us:>Fauna does a huge graduation concertor>Fauna becomes an affiliate with a quiet exit and "will be back for some things"which do you expect?
>>90543595kek
>>90539878>>90542967What's worse is shareholders are going to get even more power in the coming years because the courts have been packed with pro corporate shills. Who's bright idea was for Cover to go public?
>>90543326You thought it was Jun, but it was actually me.
>>90540687There are plenty of things that can change that could flip someone. Even a move between platforms, like moving to Twitch is detrimental. Or the bigger and more obvious one that a move like this is a complete change of social circles, it's going from watching collabs with the Holo girls to collabs with the Vshojo and ex-Niji sphere. If you care for those people, it's obviously going to put you off a bit.
>>90542884I mean, it is okay if they go public and try to quickly grow since that's how capitalism works. But I cannot understand Shareholders' retardation. How do they reach the conclusion that doing the exact opposite of what the audience want thus making company lose a lot of trust built since 2018 is going to benefit them in the long place?
>>90543650I expect to kill myself either way
YAGOO DO SOMETHING YOU FUCKING SHIT YOU HAD THE MANDATE OF THE RIGHTEOUS PATH DO NOT SQUANDER IT
>>90543539Honestly I'm just funposting and said that in the hopes that someone would get mad
>>90536495Ngon sends his regards. Shitstain.>inb4 brownfeetI'm just pissed this MMD artist got bullied by saplings and then reported and DMCA'd by Cover forcing him to nuke all of his holo related porn when he was halfway done with that video.
>>90543650I expect another pre recorded christmas
>>90539878>Ford vs. Dodge (1919) set the cancerous precedent.It didn't. It's not even used as justification in courts, that's just a dumb meme people push because they don't get what it's about.You 100% can pay your employees more and give them all the benefits even if your company is public, as long as you just argue the company benefits from it.
>>90543650affiliate is a company mandate. there will be no more graduations
>>90542949Wait maybe you are right
UUUUUUUUU no saplings this cant be happening can it?
>>90543650There won't be any more graduations. Going affiliate is objectively better for the company. Worse for the fans, yes, but their opinions don't matter.
>>90543448I don't think she'd do this and then troll us with NVM LOL IT'S GOOD NEWS!!!!!!Either she's leaving or she's taking a break due to something sudden and serious like her cat dying.
> Vshojo just got 4 new girls> meanwhile Holofags
>>90543683>going from watching collabs with the Holo girls to collabs with the Vshojo and ex-Niji sphereThis one goes both ways too. That sphere is more my cup of tea.
>>90536495No No No bros, I just saw this shit on my youtube feed I’m actually going to cry fuck me guys please Fauna don’t leave me
>>90536495males collabs before the end of the month
>>90543703They want money, quick money. Trust isn't money. Quantity over quality, just look at the Pokemon franchise.
The fact this is right before HoloFes details get dropped. I really do wonder how much work that it influenced her to do this.
>>90543968YOU FUCKWHAT ARE DOING
>>90543746no fucking way that happened
FAUMEIORISONG DOKOFUCK COVER
>>90543784>>90543339>You 100% can pay your employees more and give them all the benefits even if your company is public, as long as you just argue the company benefits from it.And then the shareholders say no, and you have to fuck over the emlopyees, exactly what's happening in CoverTotal shareholder and their shills death for ruining Cover.
she wouldnt leave us like this right???
>>90543703>I cannot understand Shareholders' retardationThey want profits fast because for them long term investments are a meme. Dump whatever doesn't give you money fast because there are others that will.
Sorry I lied
>>90542444Everyone in that collab is still there and probably not leaving any time soon
>nooo she won't have the blue dorito seal of approval anymore so i can't watch her anymore it's so over>no i don't care she's clearly signalling that she's coming back as an indie i don't watch those talentless whoresWhy are holosharts like this?
>Graduation98%>Hiatus due to whatever reason1.9%>She's getting a new cat0.5%>She's finally fucking going vegetarian so her health isn't in dumpster tier0.3%>She's releasing an ASMR series0.2%It's over anons. Biboo will be the new face of EN so we're fucked.
>>90544180Uh hmm fubuki? You said you will leave when cover is no good anymore, when will you?
>>90543650They're all going to be affiliates from now on. It's just a way to soften the blow of a graduation but not really change anything. You'll never hear from them again after Hololive runs out of whatever material they recorded before graduating.
>>90542223Fauna was one of the few who didn't go along with the Mori cliche (took a while to bond with Advent too). Ame was one of the few in EN who could not be pushed around. Gura being thrown off that Racing Cover event thing despite already having a song. SNOT and Umisea being completely affected if this announcement is what people think it is. Fuck. Fuck. If this pattern holds the next affected who's close to Gura is Kiara, even if that bad doesn't come in graduation form.
>>90542211>and Yagoo holding it back like fucking atlas.>yagoo:
>>90544337But Biboo is awesomewhat's the issue
>>90544135>And then the shareholders say noWhich has absolutely nothing to do with the Ford vs Dodge case. You are legally allowed to do that as CEO, just like the shareholders can then choose to vote you out, if they have to. The shareholders own the company, after all. You can't just do whatever the fuck you want with their property.
>>90543703True Capitalism is all about destructive, short term profits. This is why stuff like Vulture Capitalism is a thing and one the biggest cancers ever because their entire objective is to gut whatever they buy, not save it.
How could this happen? It seems like only last week she was happy and enjoying LA Noire. Did losing fromsoft permissions push her over the edge? Or was it the pokemon perms that broke her?
>>90542811It's not about looks. I don't care. Her personality is great because she's a real person.>>90542935I'd proudly show her off everywhere in public and go to church with her all the time.
>>90537169Biden is leaving the office soon
>>90543567TENGO EL ALMA ENAMORADA NOMAS DE PENSAR CORAZÓN
why do JPfags hate fauna so much? They're throwing parties over the possible graduation
>>90543577going public or "accepting investment" for an established company is how the founder cashes out
>>90544446Kiara's not graduation even at gunpoint.Might as well be saying FWMC are next.
>>90542989nah I'm pretty sure they're actively paying her just to stay because her mere employment prints money
>>90544503>Her personality is great because she's a real person.>she's just a normal right wing retardoh, i get it
>>90544446it’s clique you fucking esl
Why does Cover no longer trust in streaming to bring in the money
So, how fast will they force out the next EN branch?
>>90544166>>90544052At this point they are just leeches who happen to give you something beforehand as a false hope.
>>90544616ESL*
Cover is not aligned anymore with Fauna's vegan values
>>90542494It’s not refrigerated in the store or when sold in packets. It’s not a common household thing to do but there’s no reason it needs to be refrigerated. Ketchup is a shit condiment and only good when paired with mustard or mayo thoughbeit
oh yeah it's officially over now
>>90543577They know, they just want a lot of money and to give up on the company. Yagoo is just as bad as that Nijisanji guy, whatshisname.
https://poal.me/alf0q4https://poal.me/alf0q4https://poal.me/alf0q4https://poal.me/alf0q4
Is this what wawa talked about?
>>90544476Keeping the employees and company happy should be a CEO's first responsibility, not lining the pockets of the shareholders at the expense of everyone else. Ford vs Dodge clearly rules the latter and you're somehow in favor of that even though we're seeing how that is killing Hololive in real time. Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining.
>>90544699GRIIIMMM
>>90542138none, of course
>>90544650>company wants money>investors give them money>investors want to maximize their returnsBlame the company
>>90543577According to this bootlicker, they didn't have enough money
>>90544911>>90544911>>90544911new
>>90544755>Keeping the employees and company happy should be a CEO's first responsibilityNo. The CEO's job is to answer to the owners of the company. If you want the employees to be happy, keep the company PRIVATE, instead of going public. It's that simple. You can't sell the company to someone else and still expect to rule over it like it's your own domain. That's lunacy.Nobody forces you to give out an IPO. Nobody.>Ford vs Dodge clearly rules the latter No it doesn't. You have no idea of what you're talking about. Ford wanted to use money belonging to the owners of the company on something that is not the company. He literally just outright stated he's stealing their money.
>"wdym I can play any game I want and still have the same amount of money and also no idol shit?"
Why do you niggers care so much? Just watch her alt. The company has obviously gone to shit internally and these girls want no part of it anymore.
>>90544598I also think Gura just straight-up still really wants to be in Holo and is being held back by health reasons and/or whatever else is going on in her real life.
>>90544936Literally how? Hololive fucking prints money. Throw some barely-3-view indie into the company and all of a sudden they've got thousands in CCV and shit-tons of superchats, and the streamer barely gets any of that money.
>>90545073i dont know her alt so she will disappear forever
>Company goes public>literal Wall Street jews immediately tries to control your company>company diesevery single time. Chud loses the one thing that's making him sane again.
