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>>90544911
We unironically need a sticky, the catalog is crashing down by pure speculation.
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The EN indie community has grown to the point where it's stronger than HoloEN & the girls realized it.
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LMAO!
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This is Ame's fault
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>>90545209
>9
WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK SAPLINGS
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>>90545209
Oh, so it won't be a big deal, probably a week off or something.
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>>90544911
But where will the saplings go?
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Thoughts on her indie name?
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I'm gonna miss the porn
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>>90545215
>Doki and Dooby have a song in 3D concert
I accept rrats on what's the more "death to corpo" shit they can sing.
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>>90544911
Why does her leaving cause a bigger ruckus here compared to Ame's
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>>90545209
Thank god
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>>90545215
I'm starting to think the whole affiliate thing was Cover's idea, not Ame's.
>we have all of these people lined up and ready to leave
>fuck, let's keep making merch of their models at least
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Introducing newest holen member: Ceres Flora.
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Gura and Shion will unironically turn the lights off when they are the last Holos to leave Cover.
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>>90545455
You are gaslighting.
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>>90544911
>saw Myth debut
>had to watch Ame graduate
>saw Council debut
>will have to watch Fauna graduate
it sucks man
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>>90544911
>Fauna is graduating
Based on speculation, fuck off with this doomer shit
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>>90545418
You know and stop asking for someone to get a vacation.
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Introducing the newest Vshojo Jp member; Ceres Fauna
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>>90545458
They might have workshopped it together, but it was fully finalized as a company policy by the time Chloe's turn came up.
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>>90545455
Ame has has rrats about her wanting to leave. Fauna is very unexpected also Chloe bombing us earlier kind of really has this place cooking.
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>>90545458
Ame literally had no idea what the details of being an affiliate were. She literally said "Its up to them if they want me back or not".
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>>90545458
> let's keep making merch of their models at least
Wasn't that a shareholder idea, or was that just another rat?
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>>90545571
My sweet summer child..
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Oooh, jannies didn't like the good news post.
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>>90544936
Was this before or after they made the studio?
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>>90544911
previous thread >>90536495
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>>90545611
>HoloEN
>VshojoJP
You are trying too hard faggot.
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>>90545571
ignored the posts by
>mint
>shondo
>mumei
Yeah I'm sure they're just supporting her move to vegetarianism.
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>>90545571
Kind of a dick move to just release a hiatus notice.
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>>90545518
No I'm pretty sure it didn't cause as much attraction as this one
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>>90545654
Eh, she's been one of the people listed as potential leavers for a while.
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Yeah that's 100% a graduation announcement. As obvious as the Ame one. Seems like the standard for the average Holo will be to put 3 years in and then have a less stressful indie career. Kiara will be EN Fubuki.
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>>90545736
the shondo one was the kiss of death the other two I can cope
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>>90545450
https://youtu.be/9BGi8u8BtaA
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>>90545571
It's okay, you're not the first fanbase who went through this kind of denial stage.
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>fauna nuke
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>>90545736
Did she actually stop being a Vegan? Good for her.
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>>90545458
No shit. You actually believed she is some kind of exec that can write the rules for the whole company to follow before leaving? kek.
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>>90545455
Ame had been streaming much less than usual for the preceding year so it wasn't as surprising that she was leaving.
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>>90545804
Ame was sudden and was sticky contained. This is activating rrats and the jannies are not sticking it because it's only rrats.
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>>90545652
>They might have workshopped it together
>JP suits communicating with someone who can't speak Japanese
As likely as me becoming the next CEO of cover. Would've taken at least a year given how things move in Japan
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did Shondo say anything about this?
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>>90545571
>serious announcement
holy newfag. she's either graduating or going on indefinite hiatus. those are the only two things that ever get a serious announcement stream in hololive.
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>>90545458
>this way we keep both the investors and girls happy
>sounds like a great idea
>with the best of intentions
>what could possibly go wrong
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>>90544977
>If you want the employees to be happy, keep the company PRIVATE, instead of going public.
This is such a victim blaming mindset you sociopath, shareholders should be buying into a company because it's successful, instead they buy into it to leech everything out while contributing nothing but value because they're parasites.
>No it doesn't
Yes it does, the ruling simply states a company must be run in the interests of its shareholders, rather than in a manner for the benefit of his employees or customers. Ford realizes the other shareholders, like the Dodge brothers were leeching money to fuck over his company and the workers so they could make their own, why wouldn't he try to force them out? Unless you're a one of those vulture capitalists, in which case, enjoy your time in hell for the sheer amount of sins you incur while living.
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>>90545727
me when i make an obvious joke and saplings are too autistic to see it
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The thing that confuses me is this. Fauna is not a singer. Fine. She can't sing. Its not exactly an open secret. But she's not the only one, though. Is everybody with a 3D model for FES not safe? Does Justice have to get to Elizabeth's level before next FES?

What is being an idol that forced Fauna to make this decision? Is Kaela safe? Is Shiori?
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>>90546002
Sent a green heart to Fauna main on twitter. That's why it's not even speculation at this point. She never engages with Fauna directly like that.
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>SNO is all leaving
Thank god all the most cancer fanbases won't be posting here in 2 months.
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All of my favorites vtubers have graduated, or are going to graduate, this year. Most new games are just pure overpriced garbage. Youtube's recomendations have become completely useless.
Maybe is time for me to look for a past time that can't be affected by jews.
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>>90546017
Valve will always be the counter example to everything you said. Going public is always worse than staying private. Having full control is ALWAYS better.
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>>90546046
nice sense of humor, did you learn it from redditlion?
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>>90544977
>If you want the employees to be happy, keep the company PRIVATE, instead of going public. It's that simple.

Yagoo was taking investor money from the start, it was never a private company. He didn't have the money to buy out the investors' stake, so he had to go public or sell entirely. Going public gives him more control than selling, so he did that.
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how many people are going to actually off themselves if it really is a graduation? surely she knows that could actually happen?
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>>90546054
that's what I'm thinking about too.
if that's really the reason, it's looking grim for most of the ENs
You can count on one hand the ones that are there for the idol path and not the streamer one
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She's totally going affiliate. Most of EN will do the same.
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>>90546185
Gura will unironically be the last EN to graduate.
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I still have Ina..
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>>90546167
oh boy it truly is over
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She must seriously want out if she decided to announce it right after chloe
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>>90546017
>This is such a victim blaming mindset you sociopath,
lol
>must be run in the interests of its shareholder
No it does not. You are lying blatantly and do not care about the truth. Clearly you are not worth engaging with, since you are not interested in reality at all and are lying to spread your agenda. You are a malicious actor and should be treated as such.
>Ford realizes the other shareholders, like the Dodge brothers were leeching money to fuck over his company and the workers so they could make their own, why wouldn't he try to force them out?
It's not his company if he's sold it.
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>>90546290
Billions.
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>>90546326
how female do I have to be?
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If this going to end up with the affiliate mumbo jumbo I'm about to cast hex on that blonde bitch
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>>90546420
Or FES lineup is getting ready to be announced.
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Was Selen the 7th trumpet all along? Was Doki's success the sign that you can thrive even outsidebig corpos, thus triggering the exodus?
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>>90546046
>My joke is bad so let me say it's a joke to save it.
Still a faggot. Also nice avatar use.
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>>90546290
There aren't that many parasocial fans among EN viewers, imagine if it were Watame instead
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>>90545053
stop coping, she's gone
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To the people saying
>just watch her PL
It's not the same and you know it
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>>90546535
Absolutely. Doki showed that you can let go off the corpo shackles and still be sucessful.
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>>90546607
It's a cope and we know it
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>>90546262
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>>90546535
Trying hard to blame failure on someone else's success. Ask why corpo with billions can't be appealing instead.
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Ame actually killed hololive with this affiliate thing. Selfish bitch is going to end up killing all her "friends'" careers because she wanted to brag about how super smart and tech savvy she is and how latina she is.
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>>90546535
We don't have to pretend Hololive ever made any of their talents get to a point where they almost killed themselves. Doki still relied on the fact she was a recognized talent from a corp and so does Dooby.
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Damn, holokeks can't stop taking L this week
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>>90546565
>There aren't that many parasocial fans among EN viewer
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>>90546459
You just know shondo is breaking out the champaign
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I will never make my happiness reliant on something as fickle as another person ever again
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>>90546565
>imagine if it were Watame instead
You want a nuclear war to break out?
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>>90546589
Bruh I'm calling a sticky and I know this is 99% a grad but it's still speculation, like fuck I'm getting called out if this is a massive troll.
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>>90546543
why are you this mad that a joke went over your head? is your oshi graduat-
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>>90544911
https://youtu.be/_Ctk_rC5Hcc?t=275
Fuck it I'll stick with indies from now on.
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>>90546784
What if she resumes activity on her PL?
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>>90546565
>There aren't that many parasocial fans among EN viewers
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Shame that we'll never get to see that minecraft tree fully finished.
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>>90546807
>Still deflecting.
Trolls used to be smart, faggot.
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the vibes right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T4OEZcnOJE
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So instead of a graduation bingo card, when do we make a bingo card for people that will actually stay with holo
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>>90546535
People don't realize that Doki's and pretty much every Niji's post-Niji success was predicated entirely on the fact that most people believed those talents were "wronged" in some way and supporting their new personas was a way to get back at the company for screwing them over. You could even argue "talent freedom" is just another way of trying to imply that as well, but it obviously doesn't have the same pull.
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What if fauna is the one chosen to accounce the graduation of Gura and Mumei today?
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>>90546947
trolls where never smart
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>>90546996
That would be even funnier
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>>90546205
Valve and SpaceX are the fundamental examples of why private ownership matters, and why owner greed destroys companies.
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>>90546933
she should set it on fire instead
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What if Fauna does a "black stream" of her own detailing bullying and harassment within Hololive?
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The fuck is this exodus? First Ame and now Fauna, is EN just falling apart?
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>>90546996
Peak comedy
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>>90546054
I don't think it's that the company is making things notably harder on the girls who don't want to fuck with singing that much, it's just that if you don't want to fuck with singing that much it takes away one of the major (but not only) reasons why you'd stay with Holo rather than going indie.
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>>90544595
>>90542331
The old rules don't apply here. And it doesn't have to be graduation to be screwed over (see NijiEN)

>Ame - Gura's best friend, first chumbud
>Aqua - Gura's oshi
>Ina - Gura's genmate, Unisea, neutral friendly in EN
>Chloe - Unisea member, Gura and her respected each other
>Mumei - SNOT member, close to Gura
>Fauna - SNOT member, Gura is her oshi and good friend

Gura shouldn't be affected this much by natural courses and events. Considering what not-Fauna did on her old channel recently it's telling.
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>>90544911
I honestly don't see any reason to be upset. She's hardly collabed with anyone or done anything creative (i mean concerts, songs and so on). Nothing will change except the channel.
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86 minutes until suicide
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die numbersharts
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>>90546996
Shareholders told her to do it because she has the most calming voice and saplings are the most understanding fanbase.
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>>90545876
I mean this time its serious. Ame barely streamed and Chloe doesnt even have her own thread here. Fauna was the gamer of council and she had good comedic timing in collabs. Actually one of the things ill miss the most is how strong she was in collabs.
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>>90546996
Fun.
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Hololive EN Promyth. Do Kiara and Mori get along with IRyS and Bae?
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>>90546950
great song, anon!
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>Fauna first
>not Mumei
What the actual fuck
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Gura outlasting Fauna. I didn't see that coming
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>>90546996
Graduation announcement ASMR.
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>>90546054
>>90546319
Ina, Gura, Mumei, Shiori, Gigi, and Raora can all see being gone with how things are going. CC has said that she wants the idol dream but let's see how long that lasts when the work starts to pile. Nerissa and ERB want to sing but I don't think they want the dancing part. Can't say anything about Kronii.
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>>90546535
The indie scene has been blowing up for years, If doki was the sign, people were just not paying attention at all
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>>90544911
What the fuck is going on in hololive?
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>>90547196
Everytime you mentioned nijien, 1 holo will graduate
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>>90547196
so you're telling me, the anti-gura clique won
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>>90547196
Cover trying to demolish Gura's psyche by taking everything away from her would be an interesting twist.
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>>90547363
Gura will be the last one to go as a closing act
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Generational switch is happening, is all.

There will be new talents debuting and old members graduating.
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>>90544911
Thank God. I fucking hate saplings
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come on over ceres
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>convinces Grimmi to ditch holoJustice at the last minute
>entices Fauna to leave her 3-year run, selling her on the post-Dooby indie dream
how does she keep getting away with this
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>>90547363
Gura is going to milk Hololive for everything it's worth and Cover is going to do literally everything in their power to keep her on board. I'm not saying Gura is lasting forever, but she has very little incentive to leave compared to some other hololive members.
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>>90546996
Funny but with Shondo and the green hearts the writing's on the wall
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>>90547308
God it really will be that by the end of 2025. Mid 2026 tops.
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>>90546167
>She never engages with Fauna directly like that.
you can easily check stuff like this before you decide to post dumb shit
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EN really is just full of fake lazy whores. As soon as there is a new contract that doesn't force you to do literally anything and still make some kind of money they all start going it one by one. They truly never cared at all
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>>90546535
Yes. They're creating a new community. Hololive is now outdated.
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>>90546535
Doki was successful because of drama. She told people she tried to commit suicide and retards easily fell for it cuz "muh evil corpo." She still has not shown any proof of harassment. I'm still waiting
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>>90547600
> 2023
Anon, its almost 2025
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>>90545458
Would teamates (or saplings for that matter) really buy Ame/Fauna merch months after they've left for good?
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>>90547600
Nigga there's over a fucking year in space between interactions.
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>>90547413
nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien nijien
Was that enough to finish the rest off?
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Don't worry holobros, just understand that your oshi is not going to be in hololive for more than 4 years.
>>90547544
>convinces Grimmi to ditch holoJustice at the last minute
That was Clauvio, I'm 50% sure.
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>>90547690
>>90547723
>She never
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>Hololive imploding
>Kizuna Ai is coming back from the dead
This is a timeline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7g-SNyuX8
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>>90547656
She was honest. You just didn't read between the lines.
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>>90547544
The power of schizophrenia
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>>90547544
Why didn't Dya do the same for her friend?
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>>90547668
typical albertans
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>>90545053
A sticky for what? hearsay and speculation? because that's literally all it is. no, faggots and retards, activity elsewhere isn't confirmation. The only confirmation can come from fauna herself speaking the fucking words.
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>>90547668
She had 2k viewers during niji, and just carried her entire fan base over when she went indie. So no the drama played zero part. She never lost her fans.
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>>90547726
Confirmed for December
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>>90547705
The chumbuds do this already so I don't see why not
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>>90547810
>>90547810
Way to be a pedantic sperg.
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There's no way Cover would let two graduations notices in such a short amount of time
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>>90547906
They're not "graduations" anymore
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This is the Sabaody of Hololive
Can't wait for the actual timeskip
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>Ame opened the floodgates for this
Ame didn't do shit, I'm so tired of people attributing anything to her like she was some big figure in Hololive/vtubing. Even she herself said she wasn't clear on what being an affiliate meant for her, whether she can come back to stream or do events or whatever. Its clearly something management/shareholders thought up, cause to them its a waste to completely kill the character IP just because the voice behind them leaves. So this allows them to still get revenue from the characters, not something Ame spearheaded or thought uo
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>>90547401
No shit Nerissa doesn't want the dancing part, anon. She has a metal rod up her back.
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>>90547401
>Raora
explain
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>>90548012
>Even she herself said she wasn't clear on what being an affiliate meant for her
dyrbi
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we already have a green vtuber saplings. just dont ask where she has been
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>>90547404
My opinion: a deadly combination of
>fatigue for 3+ year talents
>increasing corporatization and idolshit pushes
>talents noticing indie reincarnations being successful and more relaxed/freeform
All happening in close proximity with each other.

Having to add the vests and skirts to the bikinis last summer was the first concrete red flag for me.
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>>90546996
I would be ready to sacrifice every other holoEN just for Fauna to stay
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Whoever invented the affiliate shit should kys
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>Gura will unironically be the last EN standing
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>>90547278
It's ok, you'll be able to watch her collabs with the Barbies soon.
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>>90547906
Why do you think they started with the whole affiliate thing?
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>>90547816
>Ai-chan coming back
wait what.
The original girl?
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>>90547905
based retard
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Saw someone say that around 37 mins in calli's member stream there was some shit about this
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>>90547906
This is the only thing giving me hope. They know it looks bad, there's no way they can't even spare the effort to delay it.
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>>90545458
no shit sherlock
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>>90547875
Good, let it burn
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>>90548183
I accept your concession.
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Are shareholders evil
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>>90545840
i'm not a parasocial leech who dives into their past lives so i have no idea what fallenshadow has to do with any of this.
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>>90548036
Yeah, mine
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>>90547843
This entire board is a bunch of gossiping housewives man.
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>>90547401
>Raora
Nigga she's training by doing kickboxing and getting herself into shape for the dance arc. Walking miles every day and eating healthy. Taking singing lessons and going karaoke with friends all the time to practice. What a baffling example.
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>>90547822
She isn't wrong. It's not healthy to use parasocial relationships as a substitute for social interaction. Streamers cannot take the place of real friends.
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So everyone is just getting ahead of Gura and keeping her stuck?
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>>90548182
Damn right son.
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I could unironically imagine some fauna fans migrating to "male fauna" aka Shinri once she leaves, especially female fans.
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I cant believe we couldnt even get friend zoned...
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>>90545450
I mean they also have Juna, who recently graduated from a corpo because of long term management issues.
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GONNA CRY?
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>>90548182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7g-SNyuX8
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>>90544911
Was there even any indication that she was leaving from her roommate?
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i-it's not actually gonna happen, right?
saplings i'm scared
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It's either affiliate, hiatus, or a troll. No matter what there will be a melty in here.
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>>90546685
retard
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>>90548000
Man.
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I TOLD YOU PEOPLE ABOUT THE HITOMI CHRIS CURSE. COVER TRIED TO FIX IT BY CHANGING COUNCIL TO PROMISE, BUT THAT WONT FIX A THING. ALL FORMAL GENS WILL BE 4.
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>>90548168
Dude, I would kill for a Lemon/Bao collab.
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>>90546375
Do you though? She's been absolutely absent because of Cover's visa mess up and with how things have been going, I wouldn't be shocked if she just up and decided to go the affiliate route as well.

She's always been the one that has seemed most likely to go because of her art success and also how little patience she has some times for chat when chat misbehaves.
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>>90548593
She started shitposting on her RM like a week ago after three years of silence.
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>>90547844
She averaged 3k actually.
And she had some high viewcount streams, thinking 50k for an outfit reveal or something.
She was NijiEN's biggest talent, which is why public opinion would have been eith her, even if things hadn't gone as smoothly with the termination
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Is being in FES mandatory
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>>90548593
new video uploads on PL
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I'm guessing her veganism has finally caught up to her and she's dying and on track to being infertile so she's taking a break to find someone to give her kids while she still has time
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>>90548700
yeah, hopefully yourself.
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>>90548723
I'm aware
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>>90544911
I doubt that it's a graduation announcement because their MO in every graduation has been to post a note through their official accounts which the talent then reacts in response to, the vtubers themselves don't really announce their own graduations live on stream. It's possible that she specifically requested to do things this way but it would not be consistent with how they've done things recently.
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>>90548522
Go back to /pol/, you fucking retard.
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>>90548824
She forgot to take her Vitamin A and B12 supplements...
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i wont watch it, i cant Sakamata stream already made me pretty sad ... i just start modeling something in 3D and wake up tomorrow for the graduation news.
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>>90547906
>don't have to manage ens anymore but get to keep a merch onahole for jp goods
it's the perfect outcome for hololive
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>>90548903
Ame wasn't that way.
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>>90548824
Fauna shoved a carrot up her ass and it's stuck there now
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>>90548315
>Nigga she's training by doing kickboxing and getting herself into shape for the dance arc.
Not to mention endurance practice from shota dickings.
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>>90548903
>the vtubers themselves don't really announce their own graduations live on stream
Chloe literally just did that
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>>90548142
At this point I think it was from PR for Cover themselves. They know several months ahead of time when someone isn't continuing their contract so they obviously saw the flood of people quitting and cooked up this idea that actually they could come back even though that probably will never happen.
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>reaper retweet
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>>90548966
Go fuck yourself shill.
The people's dicks your sucking are murdering hololive in real time.
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>>90548903
that and there's other signs that things are off. the official hololive schedule has ALL of promise scheduled for this stream, graduation announcements have always been solo affairs unless she's graduating immediately and this is the last stream ever.
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The only ones this wave of graduations is hurting are those who treat watching vtubers the same as watching anime, and I'm all for it.
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good fucking riddance.rvs28
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If this means she'll stream more, cool. I'll miss the holo collabs though
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>>90544911
this is Tempiss and ARMPISS fault and their dogshit management and stupid Yagoo
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>>90549211
nice captcha retard
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>>90549181
>mUh VuLTuRe CapITaLIsts
Crawl back to /pol/ you worthless fucking whore. You clearly don't give a flying fuck about vtubing, you're just using it as a tool to push your fucking politics.
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Wasn't Fauna also the only Promise to not have a TCG card? That seems telling too.
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>fauna the day after chloe
What the fuck
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what could this be other than graduation?
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>>90548838
She did mostly stream on twitch, so if she goes back there, the sky's the limit. She'd definitely interact with VS, which would still be fun.
Melody/Lemon collab called "Where are the Mel/ons?!"
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Boy, fuck me, I thought things would only go one way after Suisei finally made it to her dream that everybody would soar. This is somehow mentally draining.

I guess its at least a sign she won't disappear. We don't have a positive if Chloe will pursue vtubing. But this sucks. This came out of nowhere.
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>>90549300
pls no bulli it can happen to anyone
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Why can't Cover make a subdivision of Hololive consisting of just streamers? I wasn't around when Gamers debuted but why call them that unless the majority of their content was intended to be gaming? Keeping characters like Fauna, Ame, Chloe, and Ame actively streaming has to be more profitable then just letting the character be in essentially limbo.
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>>90548903
Ame had a stream announcement when the same cryptic shit before the official Cover announcement. I remember because everyone was shitting themselves wondering what was happening at like 11pm PST.
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>>90549300
damn, walked into that one
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>>90549367
Death, or something terminal.
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>>90549334
Fuck you you vulture capitalist apologist. Go find some other hobby to destroy with your greed.
Also, go back to your home board, fucking election tourist.
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>>90549367
Hiatus
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>>90549300
Nice oshi sapling. Oh wait...
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>>90547404
I'm going to give my best, non-tribalist, neutral, party guess here: the Selen/Dokibird event and backlash exposed how bad contact standards, support and pay out is on the Japanese v-tuber/entertainment side. This especially had an impact if you were looking at it from a western preceptive. Where as before all the different v-tuber groups and circles either kept that to themselves or only had one piece of the whole picture.
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>>90548903
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne3a8b7a553c0
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>>90547531

You know what, she would mesh really well with the rest of the girls, that would be awesome
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>>90546535
No Mel was.
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i cant believe gunrun got Fauna. i cant wait to see her interact with mouse
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>>90549367
She will announce that she is no longer vegan
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At this point does it even matter if she is graduating at this point? We live in the age where indies are doing more interesting content and are free from doing garbage. The biggest miss is that she won't collab with the others anymore which sucks. But she'll get more money and hopefully won't be a ball of stress over Covers shitty overworking
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It was me, guys.
I killed another of her pets
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Sucks, but makes sense. Any talent who just wants to stream and not do all the idol stuff will leave eventually once they get an audience big enough to sustain them as an indie
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>>90548903
Not only did Chloe do that but she also broke the fact it was happening on her anniversary, anon. She didn't even have a thumbnail that made you think it was a sad stream. SHE LITERALLY POPS IN ADORABLY IN THE FIRST MINUTES OF THE GRADUATION STREAM WITH A SMILE ON HER FACE THEN PROCEEDS TO SAY SHE'S GRADUATING.

Goddamn I'm actually starting to realize how much I hated how she decided to handle it. I get her intentions but what the FUCK, Chloe?
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To all saplings, here's life raft.
https://youtube.com/@lemonleaf8163?si=UJ7siVYEd4TcrcB8
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She's already posting on her PL, it's over.
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>>90549470
That would require them to invest money into the company and employees, the vulture capitalist shareholders will never allow it when their only objective is to drain Hololive of all its value for their own personal profit.
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wait coco said that people would leave in 5 years if things didnt chance right?
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>>90549698
prove it
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>>90549634
>she won't collab with the others anymore
only until they graduate too
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>Fauna is graduating soon
>Assad is graduating soon
My oshis, nooooo
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>>90549476
Still remember I saw that stream in the middle of the night thinking "Oh, Ame's doing a guerilla karaoke or something I'll download the archive the next day" and fuck me, man. Nothing pointed that it was a graduation.
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>>90549434
Check out lemonleaf
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That musical Promise talked about doing in December might wind up doubling as her graduation stream, come to think of it.
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Why won't you guys post any good porn of this slut? It's all just indecipherable arguments about other vtubers?
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>>90549634
>where indies are doing more interesting content
Such as? I'm genuinely asking because I'm curious.
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there's what 90 of them in total?
did people really think they were all going to stay cover until they just died or something?
they're human beings, they are changing jobs.
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Half of why I like Fauna so much is her design, the theming, the fanart. The other half is her personality. If she, leaves, even if she shows back up as Lemon... I'll be fucking depressed.
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>>90549367
Hiatus would be the other possibility. If it's being framed like this the hiatus is probably going to be long and due to something that happened really suddenly, though.
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>>90549367
She won't be participating in HoloFes. That's it. That's literally the only thing I can think of. And we know its mandatory so.
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>>90549952
Cover would announce it to quell speculation.
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https://poal.me/kzvuuw
https://poal.me/kzvuuw
https://poal.me/kzvuuw
https://poal.me/kzvuuw
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damn, I hope it's a nothingburger. end of an era.
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>>90548191
I just watched around that time (someone gifted me a membership) she doesnt really say anything that is fauna specific. Just that she's happy and while she might be it doesnt mean that other's arent and people want to do different things.
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>>90545282
holy shit a flat out 9 of 9 i can sleep good now
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>>90549912
Her model is God tier I agree, one of, if not THE best of HoloEN
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>>90549952
for a hiatus it would have to be something gigantic one year at least for some ridiculous reason like her mother got run over by a bus
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>>90549367
Personal hiatus or health break. Though none of the three options is any different from a fan's perspective.
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>>90549952
Nah, hiatuses tend to be announced just on-stream. There's no way it's that.
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>this many retweets and green heart replies
It's unironically over. Then again, I watched her rm all the time beforehand.
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>>90544911
damn that is crazy
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So what, are we to expect Holostars to be retired because of the little money they bring in?
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>>90547404
>What the fuck is going on in hololive?
The girls who are leaving don't want to do idolshit, they just want to be streamers.
>but why now?
Because they're seeing recently that going indie can still be a successful path for them so they finally feel safety in leaving Hololive.
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>"Fauna and Kronii are... no longer friends"
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>Raora x Gigi collab postponed
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>>90549896
Male collabs, flesh streams, fansly content, in person con meetups. Fuck man, vtubers are entertainers first, idols second. The industry may have had its roots in Japanese virtual idol shit, but it's long since outgrown the cradle, especially anywhere BUT Japan.
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>>90550191
nothing ever happens
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Kiara
Mori
Gura(last stream 4 months ago)
Irys
Bae
Advent
Justice
New Gen

This will be your Hololive English December 2025 member lineup.
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>>90549634
Bro, I'm gonna be honest, Doki just doing more fucking Overwatch and Apex tournaments is just what she did in her PL. Dooby is just doing more Ame stuff but she is involving her family, WHICH SHE COULD HAVE DONE AS AME BECAUSE NERISSA IS DOING IT ALL THE TIME. Sana coming back with a kino Sonic the Hedgehog stream? Sure. I'll give you that.

AQUA IS LITERALLY JUST DOING AQUA THINGS. THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING NEW.
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Can Fauna and Kronii at least reconcile on stream
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>>90549850
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9352649
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>>90550250
I'm a chattino and Raora was really happy in her stream earlier. Literally no sign of anxiety about the announcement. I don't think Justice knew unless they've known for ages.
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>>90549523
It's a dumb take because the talents have been griping about workload for a bit now, I doubt the dokibird situation had ANY real impact on the JP side. Everything points to new policies causing holomems to either quit or be ground to dust.
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>>90550385
Nice! I hope the new gen is cool too.
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>>90550191
>nobody is going to overlap it
It's fucking over. It was nice knowing everyone.
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>>90550191
Yeah I figured if it was the G-word then that stream would be delayed/cancelled since it starts only an hour before.

Then again, you'd think they'd have had more heads up about it than the rest of us and thus would have postponed it more than five minutes before it started if Fauna's announcement was the reason.
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>>90550464
>good
>posts koikatsu slop
might as well post AI images
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>Fauna never got to reach the 1 mil milestone
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I though Nijisanji was supposed to be the one collapsing...
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>>90550399
Except less bullshit.
Less stress.
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>>90550573
>Calling Croove slop
Damn, you have shit taste
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the thing about these graduations and redebuts are the fact that 9 times out of 10, the corpo design was better than what they could commission themselves, so you're just losing in the end anyway. Not to mention, as we've seen in the past, once you take away the idea that they have to actually think about what they say, they end up showing the worst of their personalities
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If Cover just ignored perms once gain, what would be the chances of a new Holocaust?
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I wonder how much I could resell my fauna tshirt adter this
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>the we are not your friends holos are gone

fucking finally.
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>>90550617
Finana will also be gone before the end of the year.
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>>90550399
That makes the management look even more retarded, due to piling on endless side work for Holos who just want to stream whenever they like
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>>90550692
Yes, I am calling koikatsu shit slop.
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>>90550610
Bros why did she never hit 1 mil...
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>>90550450
>Kronii will not be attending Fauna's graduation stream due to some unforeseen circumstances
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>>90550191
yep, pack it up. It's over
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>>90550250
>Raora just shows up on GG's stream
Yup its Fauna graduating then.
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>>90550617
Niji's lost more talent this year than Holo has in the entire time it's existed so yes, Niji is still the one that's collapsing.
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>>90550964
because fewer than 1,000,000 youtube accounts clicked the subscribe button
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>>90550731
Literal immediately the momment someone touches a Sony property without perms
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Official song if graduating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zeeq2fYbfGY
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>>90550617
You're retarded if you ever trust any corpo in the first place, making money and pleasing shareholders are always their first priority everything else be damned
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>>90551125
Comfy.
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>>90551062
Yeah, but a single Holo matters more than the entirety of Niji. So Cover is the one who's losing more here.
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>>90551062
Talk too soon,enjoy your next 10 graduations in December
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We're due for an ID burnout, no? Which of them is getting an arranged marriage first?
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I don't believe it's a graduation because there is literally no chance a company would allow multiple members to announce a graduation within 2 days of each other.
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>>90551125
She was my Siren...
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>>90551335
yeah, me.
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>>90551335
Does brownfeet count?
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>>90551378
Why do we pretend that a whole Chinese branch didn't get nuked
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>>90551335
that's every saplings room, not that spectacular
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>>90551378
Let? They can't stop her.
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>>90551451
That was an entirely different circumstance and you know it.
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>>90547816
This is good news.
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>>90551378
That's why they started the affiliate thing anon
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>>90550450
what happened between them?
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>>90551378
>because there is literally no chance
and what leads you to think this is truth?
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>>90551378
Didn't Ame and Aqua happen in the same week?
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>>90550761
This is what's putting a smile on my face, I'm glad to see these cunts get the axe. Praying that Kronii is next on the chopping block.
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>>90551523
No, I know. But I don't get why you think that means there's a precedent to not have multiple graduations. Especially when they're on differing branches.

MIND YOU I WANT YOU TO BE RIGHT. I would love to be the wrong asshole with egg on his face in this circumstance.
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I've already started drinking tequila.
I'm not ready.
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>>90550399
Even if they are not doing anything new, that just proves not much will change. What in holo can Fauna do that she couldn't as indie? Concerts, but she doesn't like idol stuff. Corpos have become middle men. They used to be the only way to get high quality models and rigging back when indies were using dogshit models and got no more than 10 viewers playing shitty games or just talking. Now you can get them with some money and corpotubers have that and an audience that will follow. There's no point especially when via the revenue cut the corpos will likely take more of your money than you would lose going indie.
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>>90551592
If 1 JP and 1 EN drop out at a time, which two are coming up next?
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>>90551592
Aqua announced early August, Ame announced mid September
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god i hope im wrong but i lowkey think fauna might say that she is diagnosed with cancer or something
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No, this one is one I cannot handle.
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"Your oshi could be next" is really hitting now. Not sure about the JP graduates, but for the ENs that have already left, the writing was always on the wall. But to me it seemed Fauna liked being in holo...
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>>90551807
Limes will graduate because she is pregnant with me
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Why aren't they saying anything? They're just going to let us speculate and doom and then announce something completely different than what everyone expects? I'm not falling for it.
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>>90551807
RBC and Ina
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>>90551668
Kronii was a tragedy. One of the most sexo default designs in all of vtubing, wasted on a bitter they/them nutcase.
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>>90551850
they wouldn't announce that
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>>90551958
Why, it's graduation
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DAMN KIRIN YOU STREAM FOR 10 MORE YEARS AND BECOME MY WIFE!
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>>90551807
Mumei and Shion
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>>90551936
she is already being bred by someone else anon. sorry that you found out this way
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>>90550761
Imagine paying women to lie to you. You could be getting a whole lot more out of hookers in that case.
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>>90552148
and I'm the baby!
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Based Gigastacy Kiara not dooming like everyone else
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Pips won't take this well.
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Gura next pls
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>>90548036
que that scene in smile 2 when skye fucks up her back Rissa gunna be on the drugs if she comits to dancing
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>>90552053
It doesn't feel like a graduation.
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>>90552272
>que that scene
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I mean part of me can't deny I don't see what Cover is doing. The latest JP gens are LITERALLY idol groups without any themes going for them. Hate or love them, those are the new JP gens and it demonstrated the direction they're moving forward.

But they're, and I'm trying to be kind when I say this, not as successful as the groups with the more fantastical elements going for them or aren't outright idols. So what is calling for a culling? Why are they shooting themselves in the foot?
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>>90550964
shes lazy.
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fauna is graduating because she didn't want to wait until the next 7D2D event to punch more zeds
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>>90552254
Scheduled tweet bro
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>>90549367
Pregnancy
Airing the skeletons in cover's closet
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>>90552254
She probably literally did not see it yet, anon.
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>>90550191
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>>90552301
Cope hard
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>>90552254
Cunt
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>>90552254
kek
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>Nene just finding out too
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>>90552254
I kneel
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>>90552254
This is arrogant
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>>90552505
You're the one coping. Cover wouldn't let literal back to back graduations happen like this. They could at least delay it if it's happening at all.
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Digits and it's a graduating
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45 bings remaining
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>>90552811
uuuuuu....
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>>90552778
? Still coping,can you see this?
>>90550191
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>>90552811
IT'S SO OVER
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>>90552388
Wait... Fuck man, fuck! Now that you say it, she's not going to be part of season 2. Fuck!!
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>>90552811
No, what have you done
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>>90552811
Fuck...
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>>90552811
>>90552911
Jesas...
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>>90552773
Definitely doing to miss all the lewd/r34 fan art of Fauna for sure. Her model is pretty godtier.
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>>90553063
>>90553063
>>90553063
new
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>>90552894
How has it been over 2 hours already...
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As long as she doesn't do male collabs in her indie life she'll be good.
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>>90551984
The booba incident opened my eyes. It's my belief that she seethes every time she sees porn of herself or booba. What an insufferable bitch.
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>>90547416
In theory (I don't want to be right). If you notices Holo EN of being made of two groups where certain members interact with one side way more than the others, attending their events and VCs, etc.

Mori group: Irys, Bae, Kronii, Most of Advent, at least half of Justice or more
Kiara/Gura group: Ame, Mumei, Fauna, Nerissa, Sana(?)
Neutral: Ina, EBR(?)

Then it kind of looks like anything Gura got pushed out. That many of the projects Gura wanted didn't go through or had trouble while Mori got the go ahead for a lot of things including a World Tour does not help break the theory. Even if Mori, Gura or whoever in EN didn't do anything, management sure picked a side
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>>90552254
>ME ME ME
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>>90552319
Still could be them just reaching out at the time, the slow down was already visible in 2022 and obvious last year. My point is that the recruitment approach shouldn't discredit those girls, all of them applied to get into "hololive"
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>>90552927
yeah i thought the same just now, hence why i said it. she was having so much fucking fun in that game, and now we'll never see her continue with gigi and the gang
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Fauna's gradu- going affiliate because Trump is picking her up for AG.
Screencap this.
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>>90550617
>Nijisanji have less concerts. less events, and more streamers unironically was better
Turns out vtubers don’t want real jobs. Who could’ve saw that coming?
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>>90552254
what a bad scheduled tweet this was
LMAO
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>>90551378
I don't think cover is like niji where they have to wait in line to graduate.
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>>90552255
LOL as if she actually watches fauna and doesn't just like her because of her view count
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>>90552811
Are you kidding me
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>There is a small chance she may join vallure
Oh boy
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>>90552811
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>>90553746
On the first day of Christmas, Yagoo gave to mee~
1 HoloEN Graduation~
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>>90553469
>Fauna nominated for head of EPA
trump just can't stop winning
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>>90550964
she hates tourists
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>>90552811
YESSSSS I AM FREE TO GRADUATE FAUNA
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>>90545350
who drew this?
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man im gonna miss her divine eyes that stares into your soul :/



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