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>>90548049
Don't forget that Yagoo used to work for Sanrio. Character-based IP business is his end goal. The vtuber thing is just a stepping stone towards that.
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Gonna drink a nice glass of bleach and lay down for 1.5 hours, see you then.
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Ugh
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>>90547573
didn't they block Ame of showing some silly little drawings of gators? like why in the fucking hell they need to prohibit stupid shit like that?
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>>90547899
Mass firing of all the useless non-talent related staff. Mass firing of the top brass until a talent-centric head is installed.
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>>90548548
>Yagoo was the bad guy all along
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What is this supposed new direction, anyway?
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I'm glad Towa is my oshi
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>>90548011
making fun of gura being a lazy whore = bootlicking
makes sense
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>the musical was her graduation the whole time
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fuck...
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>>90548029
I will maybe watch only CC and pessan. But everything else? Not anymore. If fauna goes indie, probably would watch her depending of what she does and with who she will collab.
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>>90547389
>homobeggars: we are the sane fans
they were right all along
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>>90548625
Straight down I guess.
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>>90548581
Brand image protection.
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Kson was right
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Saplings, how are we holding up?
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>>90548499
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

Support Site
https://988lifeline.org/
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I haven't gone along with the anti-Cover doomposting until now but if this isn't a massive sign for them to PULL UP on whatever fucking changes they've been making I don't know what else will be.
It's important for Cover to understand that I like the talents, not them, and that they need to keep these women happy as fuck. It's not optional. They need to suck their proverbial dicks.
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>>90548029
If it's a graduation, a lot depends on how Fauna talks about it. Like if there's stuff to read between the lines that's going
>ABORT ABORT WE GAAN
then yeah viewers will bail the fuck out.

And it probably is graduation, otherwise the stream frame wouldn't be so open to interpretation.
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>>90548625
>>90548548
he is going to turn your oshi into a merch factory
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Well well well, how the turns have tabled now that it's the numbers thread darling.
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>>90548652
>Broken Promise
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>>90547897
>still pretending with this shit
We're not in culture war mode anymore cunt, the signs were there for months and we chose to downplay them.
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>>90548712
>"DEI art" on cover's recent report
???
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>>90548617
"haha he lost his legs", said the guy without arms
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>>90548548
Too bad that doesn't work when the character IPs are leaving in droves
>but the affiliate
people aren't going to stay just for the design
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>>90548704
not
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>>90548652
yeah i said it a few days ago how she would graduate and this was her last thing but no one believed me because they thought i was enna cuck. Oh well if people dont wanna see what else can i do.
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Ib4 it's not a graduation and we have been doomposting nons top for 2 hours for nothing LMAO
it's 100% a grad tho....
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>>90548625
Holopro unity
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>>90548625
What japs said about ex tv producers.
>5ch
Yeah, but still that shit is doable at this point.
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>>90548627
How many talents need to bitch about workload on the way out before you pull your head out of your ass?
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I highly doubt any sapling is going to migrate to another oshi. This is going to hurt the box.
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Aqua leaving was the end of Hololive
It's time to wake up anon
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>the girl that global praised as ideal Holo fucked off as soon as the option to still get Hololive money while doing her own shit on Twitch became a thing
>the girl that /#/ praised as ideal Holo fucked off as soon as the option to still get Hololive money while doing her own shit on Twitch became a thing
>the girl who both said is gonna fuck off to Twitch to do her own thing once the option to still get Hololive money exists is still here
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>>90548617
>deleted
damn, jannies really need to lighten up a bit
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It's time for Japan to take a long hard look at its toxic work culture.
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i said i'd quit this bullshit if gura left but now i'm thinking just to peace out early and just keep one eye out if gura ever does something, hopefully poe2 will be enough for me to quit holo
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>>90548737
Sorry but the suits in Cover think that their own ideas are what people came here for. If Cover sinks, they'll just find somewhere else to infest and destroy.
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>>90548625
Dude IDOLS lmao!!!!
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>90547070
Because she wants to chill and do things at her pace.
Just because Aqua still wants to do idol stuffs doesn't mean she wants to deal all the hardwork and deadlines in Hololive, which is rather unavoidable when it comes to a big idol group.
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>>90548777
This people still in the ALL OUT WAR crap when they werent even there. I was there and that shit was over when the luxiem faggots were dead in the water. The only thing i wanted since then was for HoloEN to build up and repair the damages but they never came, instead the damages spread to JP too.
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We lost, and probably will soon be losing, talents like:
>Ame
>Fauna
>Mumei
>Gura
>Ina

And we are stuck with shitters like:
>Bae
>Kronii
>Nerissa
>Shiori
>ERB
>Gigi
>Raora

To leade Hololive EN in the future.
WHAT THE FUCK IS COVER DOING?
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>>90548941
>once the option to still get Hololive money exists is still here
She's tied down by the Universal contract
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>>90548786
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>>90548786
It had that generic, corpo, flat art.
https://youtu.be/lFb7BOI_QFc
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I'm starting to believe the rrat that Ame, Mint, Doki, Fauna, Mumei and Gura have been planning a new vtubing group.
With each new event it's looking less absurd that this is actually real. Planned to start sometime in 2025 I guess, so we'll also see Mumei and Gura go within a few months now.
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HoloEarth's worthless gameplay team needs to be put on ice and just leave a skeleton team to focus on the 3D live part. Those fucking leeches are stealing money and resources the girls should have received.
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>>90548589
kill Holoearth as well, is clear that shit is useless and is draining money and resources, those retard should just make a fucking tower defense gachaslop if they wanted money, like just look how the fucking TCG is doing
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>>90548625
Whatever DEV_IS is. Actually baffling how they were smart enough to make it a separate branch to test the waters but still force the new thing on the old girls because ????. Now they don't have a fallback.
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>has done more collabs than she's ever done recently than in her entire holo career combined
>has uploaded There recently than in her entire holo career combined
>hates traveling to Japan
>by extension of being required to be in Cover's studio to do idol work, hates idol work
>doesn't do voice packs
>doesn't participate in basically any management events or programs
>is the only Promise member not to have a card in the Holo TCG (licensing issue because not affiliate, actual graduation)
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over 20k waiting
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>>90548704
Definitely not at all
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what are the telltale signs its a graduation and not just a hiatus announcement?
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>>90548941
Karma is indeed a bitch. Bad people have bad things happen to them.
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>>90548941
>implying Mori didn't outright fail the others
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>>90549027
Bottom list is so grim
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>>90548926
muh werklode
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>>90548941
please understand mori isn't smart enough to read the room she lucks out alot
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Yagoo really needs to address this the state of the company and make a statement
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>>90548763
>Now that it's the fourth in as many months
That's the real issue here anon. Fauna's graduation as an isolated event would still be very sad for /#/, but wouldn't have /#/ getting quite this mad at Cover.
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>>90548737
My oshi is happy and she literally just got a successful mini-concert / karaoke yesterday so I have no complaint
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>>90548954
Right there with you brother, I still really really like IRyS but its not the same since i dont really like the girls she hangs out with. I will never get that early HoloEN feels anymore.
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Apologize
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>>90549060
Actually makes sense. It won't be a company but a group of loosely affiliated indie streamers.
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>positive
I'm taking a hiatus due to health/personal issue
>neutral
I'm graduating due to health/personal issue
>negative
I'm graduating due to creative differences with Hololive
>scorched-earth
I'm graduating due to management issues.
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Ya'll get anymore of them leaks?
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>>90548625
soullessness and black worship
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>>90548941
Fuwamoco are the ideal holos and always have been.
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>>90549161
Yagoo needs to fucking step down
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>>90549027
Kronii is donezo too anon
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>>90548694
>lets just make an excuse so they think we're actually working think FAST
>uhh.. BRAND PROTECTION!
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>finally gets into hololive
>it collapses 6 months later
gigi...
ceci...
raora...
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>>90549050
>>90549049
Jesas. Well, I guess those anons were right, the rot HAS taken over.
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>>90548737
Anon, they have over 600 employees and not a single one of them can fix Ina's VISA or get it right. Shit's over. Cover's cooked.
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>>90549149
dunno man, someone who's talking about saving for a second house sounds fairly smart to me
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>>90549027
The talents that can make it on their own are leaving
The shitters that are nothing without the holo brand are staying
Not really a surprise if you think about it
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>>90549207
Nah, it's the big one >>90548654
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You fuckers shitposted how Mint isn't good enough to join Hololive, so she decided Hololive will join Mint instead.
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>>90549027
Erb might fuck off desu, she seems so out of place and i dont think she even enjoys it.
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These graduates are all just sacrifices to summon the ultimate talent. Next year we are going to have a talent the equivalent of Exodia. Trust the plan!
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>>90549027
>Mumei
>Gura
>Ina
retard
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>>90549097
For me, the sudden and recent rm activity
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>>90549060
Mint and Doki can eat shit. Especially mint, she is a backstabbing whore. Even her ex friends before niji said she was a cunt.
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>>90549049
Cover is partly an art company, why we they use this ugly ass western shit kek
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the head's already cut off the chicken, you can't just glue it back on.
the only way we're getting that early holo vibe back is if the ex-talents get together and start their own thing.
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>noel and korone overlapping
lmao fuck enwhores amirite or amirite?
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>>90549253
Biggest hint they could have had was their fifth backing out before debut.
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>>90548704
not even a sapling, im watching CCGG right now, is the only thing holding me right now and giving me hope that maybe this is just a long hiatus
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>>90549229
How did nips let them get away with this horseshit?
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>>90549063
If Fauna is graduating, it has nothing to do with "the 3D live part", anon. If anything, it's because she doesn't want that part (or more accurately, the "travelling to JP" requirement for it)
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>>90549395
>lmao fuck enwhores amirite or amirite?
yeah
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>>90548941
>the option to still get Hololive money while doing her own shit
This isn't even a thing, there's no evidence this is a thing. They're not going to be doing frequent big runs of Ame merch or whatever.
The Affiliate shit is literally just Cover using a different word for graduation to hopefully not make the fans so sad, they've openly admitted this
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>>90549253
Worst, EU finally have a yuro holo after four years of negligence.
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>>90549395
This but unironically.
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>>90549076
devis has literally nothing to do with this
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>>90549373
>he doesn't know
lmao do RM reps
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>>90549060
Yeah i didnt want it because well i wanted one big ass concert for holoEN but at this rate if Gura leaves i dont think the Globe dream will ever be real......... or maybe thats the one reason that Gura stay, to give that one last concert next year maybe.

LIKE FUUUUUUUUUUCK man Full color never and Not a Phase never? Fuck COver like fuck them fuck them fuck them broooo
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>>90549455
honestly all these overlaps are the only hope I have that it's just a hiatus instead of graduation
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>>90549027
>Nijisister hires having to carry the torch HoloEN
Yeah this branch is done for lol. I'm so fucking bummed right now
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>>90549097
Who has ever announced a hiatus like this, what other stream with this formatting do you know off that wasn't graduation
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>>90549060
Disregard Doki and Mint, but it is at least a little suspicious that every talent that has willingly left Cover this year is someone she speaks/has spoken too (including JP)
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>>90549289
>second house sounds fairly smart to me
a second house in japan, you might as well burn that money.
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>>90545606
The reality is that they are all chatting together behind the scenes regardless of corpo boundaries.
So NijiEN's mass exodus created whispers in the ear of HoloEN members. I think more significantly though is the Homostars and their complaints. When one of the males complains all the girls take it super seriously and start to think poorly of their company
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>>90549349
>western HQ in california
>blackrock owns shares
it's obvious cover is going to go down the path of sony
I mean the latest gen literally has a fucking shameless coalburner
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Yagoo hasn't said anything since Chloe made her announcement. Coward.
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>>90549213
>Fauna is leaving because of Miko and Suisei somehow
These people are fucking insane.
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>>90549253
Having big members stepping down / going MIA is their chance to rise, anon.
How did you think Fauna get to her level of popularity?
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>>90549242
Why do people keep saying this? What happened?
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>>90549543
>muh reps
Mori doesn't even know who Fauna is
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>>90548548
Yup. They will eventually pull out of the vtubing thing in a few more years and do video game character-specific thing, maybe even gacha. They will hire the voice actresses to do shill streams and special appearances but they will not stream. I can see it. Then groups like devis and other new groups can be the music+streamer groups while Hololive becomes the character brand and nothing else.
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>>90549253
>Gigi
>Raora
>Erb
this is what they wanted. in 2022 they were Nijisisters all 3 of them.
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>>90549630
>Kurosanji: I am the blackest company.
>Kurolive: HOLD MY SAKI.
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>>90549395
Fuck *lazy whores*. Hard working girls are still going on just fine
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>hololive actively collapsing
>nijisanji still going strong
What did God mean by this?
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>>90549060
Doki and Fauna are the only ones here with any amount of brain cells, and neither of them are capable of leading a company.
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>>90549633
but he managed to call it 2 days ago (it's the 1st of december in japan right now)
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"If only there were signs..."
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>>90549503
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Fauna maybe graduating is not an excuse to post your faggot politics shit, go back to /pol/ retards
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>>90549801
Kys
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>>90549633
I think it's shitposting, but they were insanely (un)lucky on the day they picked
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>>90549253
I feel bad for CC, couldn't care less about the other 3
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fauna is /#/'s oshi right?
it's unironically over
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What happened to ina
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>>90549720
>implying i'm talking about Fauna's RM
lol
just lol
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>>90549713
She randomly fleshposted the other week on rm, massive red flag with everything else going on
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>>90549395
>baka gaijin announcment, me no care fucka u whiteu piggu
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>>90549794
Eww
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>>90548609
It's why I cringed when yagoo was the top of that jump king tower at holocure.
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>>90549630
Chloe isn't going to graduate until next year, anon
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>>90549788
Holofans on /vt/, and saplings in particular, partied a little too hard, so Karma said "fuck you".
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>>90549395
Did you forget that Botan overlapped FUCKING AQUA
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To think the girl who ditched Justice pre-debut was actually ahead of the curve.
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so guess the rest of EN only found out recently? Well I'm sure promise knew earlier
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>>90549858
They opened the EN office in fucking California, there was no other way LMAO
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>>90548548
>Character-based IP business is his end goal.
Why limit his IP Farm to streamers? Do more with HoloALT. Initiate an invaders branch or Mythic-style subsidiary.
Shouldnt his three IP farms be:
- Hololpro (Main farm)
- Hololive Alternative
- Mythic style branch or subsidiary

If he had all three and were using them effectively the company as solid as as a vtuber agency can possibly be.
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>>90549788
Aren't all of the new niji debuts 3views? That's not a good sign for the future.
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>>90549794
>"retard"
>"schizo"
>"2 more weeks"
it's hard for some people to look reality in the eye
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>>90549570
>no, don't buy a house in country of residence, it's gonna be cheaper by the time you die!
smartest /biz/ poster
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>LMAO
Why does Ennacuck always sign his posts
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It's okay guys we'll get Dev_is EN!
G-Guys?....
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https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1863007407946776772
Minto is anxious
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>>90549888
I-IRyS is still around. I can still cope with it
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>>90549888
We like whoever has the biggest numbers. We're moving on to Biboo.
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>>90549751
gigi and raora have been nothing but positives for nearly everyone, erb is more cotencious but hasn't caused any problems
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>>90549789
if a fucking whore can make a vtuber company anyone can
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>>90549888
I genuinely don't think this thread will survive Fauna's graduation. It'll linger on the same way those offbrand numbers spinoff threads do but that's it.
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I'm done with hololive
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>>90549253
justice is fine since their sister gen is going strong, it's myth and promise that are looking grim
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>>90549801
>starts streaming in EU time only when CC joined
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>>90549724
They found the fucking formula in making vtubing work and they have the right environment for it. BUT NO they would rather diversify and remove themselves from what made hololive succesful like a typical out of touch corpo
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>>90549900
Some dumb manager or intern didnt renew her work visa so now she cant use her acct for lots of things making Ina lose a shit ton of money. Honestly she said she thought about quitting when it happened and at this rate if we get more graduations ESPECIALLY LAMY then I think she just leaves too.
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>>90549455
If she postpones it's a graduation
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>>90549327
Ina was already open about considering graduation before. I can believe that she's done with Cover's shit after they fucked all her shit with the visa
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The loss of collabs with other Holos kills me because that's one of the things that's just straight up over
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Nerissa active, hasnt retweeted it yet
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>>90549916
Is she hot at least....
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>>90549568
sana's dog death announcement
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one thing that should be clear is that rm activity can no longer be seen as nothingburgers
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Fuxking ayo posters, of course all of them are greyfags.
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>>90550012
Sounds like this "Ennacuck" won though
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>>90549951
It's a fucking merchandise warehouse retard, you don't even know what you're shitposting about. Rope now
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>>90550127
I'm not going to make it
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>>90550059
Biboo and Gigi basically are having the biggest chance of their lives, regardless whether Fauna is graduating or taking a hiatus.
Don't know if they are capable enough to grab saplings, though
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>>90550056
noooo :(
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>>90550147
Anon...
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it's raover...
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>>90549888
Cunny posts aren't prominent without Gura and now with Fauna gone...I don't know
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Gigi is live but has a collab in literally four minutes by the way
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Hololive will always be the best. A few lazy and ungrateful whores quitting doesn’t change that at all.
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>>90550056
oh kill yourself you fucking cunt
you already know what it is
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https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/1863008753098068346

it's over
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>>90549900
I feel so fucking bad for ina... cover's management needs to be shot
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>>90550239
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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>>90550202
Lets fucking keep ignoring the signs then faggot, wanna keep doing that then? Cover is fucking retarded
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22K DORYAAAAAA
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The feelings come in waves I'm excited
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>>90550239
Uh oh...
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>>90550239
HAHAHA
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>>90550239
Dude it's so over
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>>90549987
>buying a house in country that's going to hit a massive economic depression in a few years because of it's currency collapsing.
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>>90550199
IRyS still stands strong
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>>90550056
>pretending she didn't personally convince her to leave
KWAB
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>>90550239
Fuck, yeah it's over. Did they not know about this until today?
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>Ame and Aqua wanting to leave doesn't mean anything
>Mumei being silent for almost 2 months doesn't mean anything it's just school
>Gura was just trolling when she did that twitter thing
>Fauna was just making a joke when she activated her RM after 2+ years
>Chloe isn't going to graduate. It's just a healthbreak
>[You are here]
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>>90550331
>>90550318
>>90550239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0
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>>90550111
RIP
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>>90550239
>>90550278
Yup, 100% graduating.
SHIT
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https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/1863008753098068346

I'm gonna fucking throw up
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Vshojo won
/lig/ won
Twitch won
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>notMumei's recent tweet
Oh.
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>>90549519
You are a retard but you'll get the message after the 10th "change in directions" graduation. You'll also see more push for gen only 3Ds to save time in the future and it will fuck over talents that want a solo career (probably won't affect Suisei or Mori since they make gajillions of yen though)
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>>90548954
i'll still be here for some other girls until gura does her graduation live next year. unless this becomes an indie posting thread too, or we make an exception for affiliates
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>>90550239
It’s so fucking over bros…
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>>90550239
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>>90550199
holo could go under completely and he would still be a mentally ill subhuman, he isnt winning anything ever
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>>90550239
Okay yeah 100% graduation then
last hope snuffed out
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>>90550291
Which thread are you going to crosspost this to?
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Gigi's screen has been on this loading screen for awhile what happened?
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>>90549888
The poll on the left is a week or so old, the poll on the right is from March 2023
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>>90550239
I’m going to kms
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Sorry sapkeks.
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>>90550487
Probably just got told by Raora that the collab is delayed
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>People thought Myth was cursed, but Council / Promise is actually the gen losing members the fastest in EN
Promisebros...
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>>90550239
its so over sapkeks
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60 minutes until its a nothing burger and every feels stupid for dooming
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>>90550211
Obviously this thread would not notice, but biboo unironically has a lot of overlap with fauna, not to a massive excess but she would snatch up a sizeable percentage of viewers.
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>>90550239
Yep, that confirmed it
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>>90550487
@everyone discord ping
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>>90550239
>>90550398
Did Fauna not tell anyone?
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Boy I can't wait to trade collabs with CC, GG, Biboo, and Mori for collabs with Doki's crew and her old male buddies
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>>90550239
oh yeah it's over
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>>90548625
hire niji enployees as staffs
pander to blackrock demands
ignore the fanbase
ignore the talents wishes
cripple their content a la wanabe disney
open business in california
leave homo enablers and "suport the cause" fucks run free
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Why the fuck is helmite pushing the fucking lie that Fauna wasn't big on performances
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>>90549519
Honestly you'd have to be retarded to think they didn't at this point.
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>>90550106
Management once again not doing their best to actually support the ones who brings in money, They see concerts and merch bringing in the most money and focusing too much on it and providing support in only that area while putting the rest to their other projects and branches. They see the effect but not the cause
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>>90550582
If it wasn't a graduation the frame wouldn't be ambiguous.
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So can we now be serious about raising a stink? I mean for the Adventfans only at this point, I guess. This is your branch now.
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>>90550014
>DEV_is EN
That would be even more fucking grim since the purpose of that branch is to push the new normalfag direction that cover wants
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>>90550582
anon.. im sorry, but its clear what is happening..
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>>90550582
What the fuck would Fauna announce using this format, that thumbnail, etc. other than a graduation? You think she's emotionally unintelligent enough to do a hiatus this way?
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>>90550401
>Vtubing and idols die in the west
>Whore and react slop becomes the only view of vtubers
>Idolshit retreats to Japan only

grim
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we really went from "every indie dreams of being in Hololive" to "graduation pipeline" in like 2 months
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>>90550056
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So in the end was fulgur right?
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>>90550701
Don't slander my god Helmir like that idiot kys
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Bros I feel so fucking happy this is the best day of my life
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>>90550701
His oshi is Cover and Watame.
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this is going to be a painfully lonely winter bros...
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>>90550701
Yeah he's acting like an absolute retard
Dude is a bit too addicted to protecting Cover
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>>90550816
>t. Homosister
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>>90550582
brother is huffing that copium
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>>90550701
He's a double edged sword. He'll defend the girls against anything but he'll also defend Cover the same way.
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>>90550056
>anxious
She's literally the one who's planning a new group with them, don't put on an act now
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Intern is up to tweet the graduation image
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HOLOLIVE LOST AHAHAHAAHAHA
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It's 100% safe to say Gura is also leaving but she wants to make it a "big 3D event"
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RR on the CCGG stream now
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>>90550239
just put me down
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My heart is at ease because I know deep down these girls will never abandon me
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RAORA in CCGG's collab!
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>>90549888
Yes, everything else that made this thread ""numbers"" has been gone for a while, if the CGDCT core of Fauna, Mooms and Gura leave, there's no point for it in this form.
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>>90550408
devis aren't a change in direction merely a change in structure of their specific branch only, they are still the exact same members doing the exact same thing outside of their group structure. any changes in direction have nthoing to do with them
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ENTER BIG CAT
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I came here to laugh at you.
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>>90550759
>every indie dreams of being in Hololive
that should be changed to
>every indie dreams of debuting in Hololive
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>>90550701
Helmite doesnt care about EN, he is a cover bootlicker and he has parrot straight up lies before too.
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>>90550701
I like Helmite and always have but he's been melting down over all of these graduations, he was literally copy paste spamming cope in the Chloe thread.
He can't take people getting the idea that everything isn't good at Cover, because his oshi is still happy and has gotten everything she ever wanted over the years.
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>>90550701
Yesterday I saw Helmite defending Cover during the chloe graduation announcement. Lets see if he still thinks the same of Cover
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https://poal.me/kzvuuw
https://poal.me/kzvuuw
https://poal.me/kzvuuw
https://poal.me/kzvuuw
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Hololive killing themself is not what i expected. Talent>Company simple as
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Yo this is wild back in September I slept through the Ame announcement and waiting period.
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>>90550816
>of my life
Pathetic excuse of a life you lead then
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>>90550759
Except most still need Hololive's boost, or get lucky in some other way.
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is it over or not?
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>>90550127
Why? Eceleb collabs like with vcr are more important since they can bring alot of potential non holo audience and not as a way for them to leech off holo.
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>>90550907
You should do your parents a favor and fall off a bridge retard, don't reply to me
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horrible vibes now
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>>90548626
you must love her bf then
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>>90550239
So, did she not tell anyone about this?
Everyone knew ame was leaving months before the announcement
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>Emotional support
Yeah it's over
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>>90551047
Yes. It's never been more over.
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I guess Justice weren't told in advance?
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>>90550701
Fuck him!!
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>>90550950
See >>90547181, >>90549049 and >>90544051
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>>90549888
saplings (even of the /#/ fag variety) are fairly chill
unlike the teakeks, they probably won't become hololive antis just to shill their new indies. so it's actually so over
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Raora you stupid bitch
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This means that the notFauna - Northernlion collab is a real possibility
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This is my rrat: Fauna saw IM on that black midget's 250k ccv stream and knew that she would never achieve her dreams as a hololive member. She's chasing more numbers by going indie because she loves us.
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>>90550156
I'm not shrimping fine
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https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1863010764505677948
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1863010764505677948
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1863010764505677948
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1863010764505677948
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Guys I can't do it, the indie scene is too twitchshit for me to watch. You'll have to go on without me.
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>>90550574
Turns out fatgur was right all along. They didn't do as well as expected.
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>>90551047
It's unironically over. Aqua was the beginning. You can argue that Eugene was too.
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>>90551108
>confronted with facts
>has a meltdown and spews ad hom to cope
many such cases
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>The Holo Winter is here
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D-dorya...
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>>90549291
You're a shitter who can do nothing but rag on people who're overall more successful than you to make yourself feel better. Thats much worse than anything you're implying they are.
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>>90550701
>lie
He isn't wrong. Fauna might not hate performing, but she doesn't want to travel to JP, which is effectively the same since that's the only way a Holo member can do it (outside of spending hundreds thousands dollars for an external studio, according to Kiara).
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Remember when kiara said she found out her worst fear came true and it's been happening for awhile? wonder what that was all about?
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>>90551112
>Promise 3D live is a dead march into Fauna's graduation
Fucking grim. I'm going to vomit.
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Full Justice collab on Gigi's channel...
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>>90551207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQcur9E89E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQcur9E89E
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>>90551207
Either her quintessential germanic behaviour, or nobody knew.
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>>90551207
>Fauna still there
See she's not graduating
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>>90550739
I'll be an adventonlyfag after this not gonna lie
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>>90548589
>talent-centric head
that's already the case. HoloPro talents
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>>90550239
That doesn't make senses. Did they don't know?
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this is gura's fault
if fauna's oshi kept streaming she would've been forced to stay in hololive due to sheer otaku autism instead of following the money
can a numberfagger really turn down 30% extra income for free with less work???
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>>90548951
lol, they'll never learn, maybe in 100 years
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>>90551207
>>90551333
why the fuck is she the first one
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>>90551331
Aren't you forgetting someone?
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>>90551207
im going to cry
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>>90551207
MEEEEEEEE MEMEMEMEMEME
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>>90550412
I did say indie was gonna rise up mostly because hololive has far too many restrictions with the most important one being game perms capping their potential whenever there's a fotm game. Asking perms for western games is also one
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Haven't all the other graduations happened at anniversaries/contract renewal, isn't this coming at the wrong time for a grad? coping aside, what do I do now? I don't want to go back to being miserable over modern games/anime.
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ok but why the fuck is fauna doing this shit at Fauna Time +2 instead of the usual +0??? i need to fucking sleep damn it
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>>90551294
It would be funny in a sad way if Fauna ended up sniping Doki's max ccv on the year right at the finish line
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>>90551331
I wont be watching Hololive anymore if Gura and Mumei graduate so i dont care bro.
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>>90551444
Liz dropped earlier on stream
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>>90551444
No.
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>>90551294
GOLD
>GOLD
GOLD
this makes me ponder gura's potential graduation ccv
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>>90551339
Nigger, a hiatus is basically the same thing. No activity for months maybe even years.
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>>90551207
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>>90550947
EVERY GEN SHOULD HAVE ONLY 4 CHANNELS

FUCKING CURSE
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>>90551207
>HO HO HO
So that's why Kiara was so happy!
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>>90551207
>>90551333
>Fauna graduating
>Kiara "MEMEMEMEMEME"
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>Original break out stars all leave
>New gens do worse and worse numbers overtime, enough to stay in business but not enough to grow
>Becomes hollow IP sales, gets brought out by some megacorp and fades into nothing

It is OVER
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>>90551112
why the everloving fuck did Cover decide on this name? do they actually hate the girls?
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>>90550701
How is that a lie? She's literally NOT. She hasn't even made a 3D concert.
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>>90551021
It wasn't quite this wild. Ame being the first to leave since Sana and after 4 years there herself wasn't quite so concerning to the overall health of hololive even if close to Aqua timing because that could still be coincidence. Chloe and Fauna so soon after those 2 is very concerning.
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I think cover is trying to kill # they know fauna is popular around here and if they cut off the root of all evil that will solve the problem and end your numberfagging hobby
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>>90550990
/#/ was the same hours ago. Holoanti my ass
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Anons, there is a growing sentiment among talents that they don't need the company to succeed after seeing the support Doki and Mint got. Prepare for potentially more talents (Homos included) willing to make the leap thinking they can grow outside of the company.
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>>90550106
Lamy didn't even consider graduation and went through the typical holo workload even while having a cancer scare, she'll still be in hololive long after Ina's gone.
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>>90551399
Not even since the homos are doomposting everywhere too
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>>90550954
I feel like the problem is that you think I'm blaming the DEV_IS girls. DEV_IS: The Branch's direction is Cover's future direction. They are run by the same people.
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>>90551207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQcur9E89E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQcur9E89E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQcur9E89E
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>>90550816
same, brother
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>>90551301
Cover should have contracted with Ame to use her new studio or something.
I sure hope they at least tried a few different avenues before letting their anchor second-most-popular EN talent walk
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>>90551608
living the idol agency dream
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>>90551331
Wow I feel so much better now!
Thanks management!
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>>90551482
>Spolier
Anon, be like that /v/ anon and simpy play the shit you want.
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>>90551473
>>90551597
Sapling...
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>>90551488
I also need sleep but I cannot miss the announcement, can’t sleep with this shit on my mind.
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>>90551207
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>>90551608
Yeah Hololive is entering the slop era
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I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE MORI'S MARIPA CURSE BROS
IF SHE DOESNT WIN, SOME RANDOM TAKE THE BULLET
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https://x.com/momosuzunene/status/1863011461045633383
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>>90551207
FAUNA IS IN THERE
GRADUATION CANCELED
GRADUATION CANCELED
GRADUATION CANCELED
GRADUATION CANCELED
GRADUATION CANCELED
GRADUATION CANCELED
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>>90551676
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>>90551207
>>90551718
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>>90551781
Nene you dumb whore
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>>90551488
Cover mandated smpp4hlot, just like Ame's was
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>sudden increased activity, especially in a type of content she isn't known for or used to doing
Aqua and Fauna
>inactivity
Ame
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>>90551003
CCV is the only thing that matters. I'm a sapling, but I'm sure as fuck am not watching sub 10k indie shitters.
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>>90551620
Don't forget Myth's was
>The Show Goes On!
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>>90550701
some among us oshi the girls, others oshi the corporation
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>>90550502
& irys!
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>>90551488
Fauna +0 is 8AM JST, on a Saturday. Cover managers wouldn't be up yet and this is something they need managers to monitor
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>>90551781
nene....
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>>90551781
Nenechi...
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>>90551294
>dorya...
:'(
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>>90551207
MEMEMEMEMEME
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>>90551654
Anon dont fucking talk about lamy when you dont even know what she has said or done on her RM acct. Its literally as telling as Aqua.
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>>90551840
?
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>>90551781
oh fuck this is going to hit the JP girls hard since they love fauna
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>>90551626
Four graduations of high profile talents (well, at least historically in Ame's case) in a year is a trumpet.
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>>90551852
Fauna was the opposite of increased activity though.
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Maybe cover wants out of vtubing and fully into IP business
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>>90551781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICoTJIKhBVE
Guess no one informed JP. Nene and Koyori had one of the cutest interactions with Fauna from JP
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Wait, Fauna wasn't in here. That could only mean...
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I thought 2024 was supposed to be hololive's best year
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>>90551890
i unironically oshi holodex
if i need to rely on youtube/twitch/discord notifications to know you're streaming, i'm not fucking watching.
if the algo doesn't push your clips, i'm not fucking watching
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If only if was Kiara instead of Fauner
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I'm hanging on by a thread Fauna please...
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>>90551620
>>90551877
Well the show does go on...and Promise will Promise to always be in their hearts
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>>90551781
Nene.......
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>>90551781
Nene dont look......... you are gonna get depressed and go mehera again.....
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>>90551625
Sorry bro the saplings are coping so hard they're literally adopting every shitpost against hololive they used to sneer at just a day ago and turning Fauna into some overworked girl who just wanted to dance on stage in 3D instead of stream.
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>>90551781
>Didn't tell the EN girls
>Didn't tell the JP girls
wtf is fauna's problem?
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>>90551112
I don't think this is a good look....
not after this many graduations in quick succession
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>>90552044
Good luck getting IPs from literally nothing
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>>90551781
nenechi.....
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>>90551675
they aren't going to replace the whole company with girl bands, there is nothing to indicate this since they just released 2normal en gens, normal jp gen will come when needed
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>another mom abandons me
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>>90551488
JP autism demands the announcement happens at JP time.
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GUYS I FUCKING SOLVED IT
AME CAN'T SING
FAUNA CAN'T SING
HMMMMMMMM?????????
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>>90551916
Wake up you lazy fucks, you give the girls overwhelming workloads and you can’t get your asses up at 8AM?
No wonder why they are graduating
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>>90552116
Beni sex!
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>>90551699
>Huh oh there's an EN branch?
2 years before a slight improvement despite enshittery happening with management. Now with their pivot towards their potential new audience how long do you think before they change course once again? EN has suffered with horrible EN management for a while and with the supposed improvement that made them stay out of the window once again there's nothing holding them back.
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Okay but is now a fair time to point out that having the Myth 3D Live say
>MYTH FOREVER
while knowing Ame was going to dip in a month, that was retarded even if the song was fire, right
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>>90552163
Slight increase of it being a sudden hiatus due to personal circumstances.
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>>90552111
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>>90551207
Feels like someone is missing.
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>>90552224
Neither can Suisei, so why isn't she gone?
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WHY THE FUCK WERE SO MANY EN GIRLS SAYING 2025 WOULD BE HUGE???
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>>90551620
>do they actually hate the girls
took you this long to realize?
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>>90552111
God I wish
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Isn't it time you give indies a chance?
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>>90552064
wissa...
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>>90552224
Hasn't Fauna been talking about making progress with her current vocal teacher?
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Why did they debut 2 nijisisters and 1 homosister?
Why are they actively killing their EN branch?
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>Mori was doomposting about Fauna yesterday
>Kronii tried to stop Fauna a year ago(reason why they stopped collabing and her voice was trembling during the pico park 2 collab)
>Mumei went full depression aside of college
damn...
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>>90552224
Now explain Gura, Chloe and Aqua. Explain A-Chan and explain Mel getting fired all of a sudden.
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>>90551710
TrUsT tHe PlAn
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>>90552300
Huge graduations and huge numbers
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>>90552208
>normal jp gen will come when needed
Holy cope
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>>90552286
Everyone but Ame is there
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>>90552286
She's there top left corner.
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>>90551488
Cover wants them to do it while staff are awake I suppose. They had Ame do it at like fucking midnight or something
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>>90552286
Ame?
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>>90552286
Sana...
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>>90552300
well, Mori has a sololive and most likely an anime opening, so I believe her
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>>90552300
Well, the branch will never again get even remotely as many viewers as when Gura will graduate.
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>>90551972
are you stupid? lamy literally said she wants to be in hololive for MANY YEARS
dumb fuck
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>>90552384
>Gura
retard
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>>90551699
>second-most-popular EN
Only in CCV which might not be that high on Cover's priority list. She isn't "second most" in any other metrics (merch sales, SC, subs, total views, music, etc.)
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>>90552378
it makes too much sense

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>90552286
irys...
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>>90552208
JP7 is never happening and it's high time people accepted that
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>>90551207
Thanks for cheering me up, chicken.
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What if fauna just wants to announce that she is going on a 3 months hiatus because she wants to move to sud Korea and work as a ramen manufacturer in a small independent business that will slowly deteriorate her health unknowingly thanks to a high concentration of chemicals in the water supply of her not up to date workplace that will lead her to retire at a young age due to work-related sickness and will live a ill but happy recovery in her future years what do you yhink
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>>90551207
>didn't retweet Fauna
>shilled her own project instead
Chicken should get slit
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>>90550154
snail... no...
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>>90552256
>the song was fire
Anon...
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>Chloe is not graduating, it's a nothingburger!!!
And the same thing will happen again.
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>>90552350
Imma give lemonleaf a shot if she ever returns, no more no less
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>>90551620
Did Cover forcing four girls to graduate because they weren't willing to wiggle on behind the scenes requirements not tip you off to that?
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27,000 DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>90552286
ERB pet look like Herdier
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>>90552197
devis
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>>90550699
Jesas that's fucking grim.
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Worst case scenario: the strongest active holoEN streamer graduates
Not worst but still bad: the strongest active holoEN streamer becomes inactive
EN box is fucked.
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>>90549203
>ex-corpos from top (or former top in niji's case) company knows from experience the hell of being in corpo
>Never again
>make voms-like group
>no overhead
>no deadlines
>no homework
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>>90552286
>Bloop
>no chumbie
fuck this gay earth........ (no one is missing other than Ame)
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>>90552553
Chicken should get clit
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>>90552286
i blame all of this on bloop
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>>90552300
No one did
Gura was talking about game releases
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>>90551294
I'm more worried when I see numbers spike like this and some people get giddy about it because its not just people concerned, its the vultures and bitter people looking for drama. Legit wonder why people who actually think Holo having bad times means its the chance for them or others to rise up. If a very successful couple of pillars go down, people lose faith in an industry, which usually means less opportunities for that industry. Not something to get giddy over.
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100k stream possible?
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>leaves
>everything crumbles
Pillar of EN
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>>90550739
Myth/council boomer I'm just beyond tired and sad of watching the first two gens fall apart like this. Maybe our time is just up.... advent newfags enjoy, the stage is yours it seems
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>>90552378
> Kronii wasa voiding Fauna not because she hate her but because she knew I'll cry.
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>>90552595
The guy who made it literally had set pianos on fire before
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>>90552080
To be fair, it was amazing until October / November
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>>90550401
ew is this grifter for real
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>>90552599
No, this looks far more like a traditional graduation frame. Hope and cope are different things.
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>>90552533
Theyre forced to debut JP7 with all these graduations
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>>90552044
They focused on effect and not the cause. Fuck yagoo
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>>90551972
I follow usag***, stop being a retard. She never said anything there that would hint at graduation or dissatisfaction with her work, when she complains she does it as Lamy not her RM. Now fuck off from talking about her.
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>>90552671
it's Vshojo
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>>90552691
Fuck off no one cares
Read the room, kfpiss
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>>90549265
they needed studio time for ARMIS 3D
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>>90552599
Uh no, we all accepted the reality here near instantly
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>>90552362
>Get vocal lesson on singing
>Graduate
Either she said it a long time ago or she isn't graduating. Given the circumstance, I assume the former is the case
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>>90552350
No. I'm not a vtuber fan anymore, I'm a fuwamoco fan, that's it full stop.
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EN died because they had no competition, now way to get better.
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Odds of Gura coming back for a last SNOT collab?
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>>90551488
>8PM
>bed time
How much of a fucking ojisan are you grandpa? The west coast is still in the working day now.
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>>90552300
Management mandated post. Now I realize that fact considering those who are in hiatus or near graduation often say that
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>>90552644
things have been grim this year but they are being over shadowed by the good things I guess >>82331054
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>>90552350
As long as Bae is still around, no
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>>90552286
IRyS got Mike Wazowski'd
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>>90552902
It was recent, she even teased showing off her chest voice that she personally wasn't happy with but never did. I'm going fucking insane.
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Oh raora joined C GG. 11K btw...
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>>90552803
I had this conversation with someone yesterday, but they would have started prepping JP7 earlier this year once they knew of all the graduations if it was happening. You got DEV_IS 2. That's the. future
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>>90552950
they had plenty of competition from other corpos and indies though. and clearly they lost.
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>>90549764
>We thought YAB-gi-oh ended with selen yab
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>>90552902
It was very recently, maybe one of the LA Noire streams? She talked about being able to project a chest voice now but not liking how hers sounds. One of you autists should be able to pinpoint it down to the exact timestamp.
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>>90552710
you're confusing something else with what she posted in chat about '2025 will be quite the year'. i'm guessing she'll have a graduation live on a similar scale to aqua's
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>>90553058
i cant even pay attention to the collab
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>>90552384
Firing Mel was retarded considering how much they wronged her with the manager they themselves hired.
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>>90552350
There's only one indie I watch and she's a JP so....
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>>90551620
No, that's the girls themselves decided as a clue to Fauna's graduation
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>Bae said its going to be okay
Thats a lie
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Yggdrasil is burning...
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>>90552497
She literally locked her acct a month ago because she said she wasnt well mentally anon.
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CCRRGG sandwich
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ccggrr very funny together
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>>90552902
>>90553102
Yes, she was recently talking about singing lessons and promise to show us the results later, she also did plans to her next birthday and anniversary...that's why this doesn't make any senses.
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Why are some people blaming Gigi?
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Ever since Fauna became very disillusioned with Japan (due to no vegan options) after the month stay for their 3D, I think a part of her motivation just died and then realizing she has to go to Japan every year for a multiple weeks at a time is why she didn't want to do any 3D content.
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>Raora cancelling the collab with Gigi
bad sign
>Raora immediately jumping into the CC/GG collab so they're in the same timeslot anyways?
confusing sign?
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>>90553184
>visible tkb
enjoy your vacation
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Cover keeps losing EN heaveweights without being able to replace them with new gens?

Advent did well to debut Biboo and FWMC but Rissa and Shiori are at the 3-5K CCV group.

Justice was even worse with 3 girls failing to meet quality standards (while being niji/homo fans) and only CC being a promising recruit.

Forget about the new Gura, are there really no new talented people applying with the potential to reach Ina/Fauna/Mumei status?
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all these graduations are also going to create new cover antis, which will just cause a further downward spiral
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GRIM era 2: electric boogaloo, on the way
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>>90553293
turns out she was the ironic weeb
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Almost 30k huwaiting.
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>>90553145
Yeah...finally we got kino justice (3/3) and that happens....
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>these 3 are the future of EN
thoughts?
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>>90553323
It's so that they can end before Fauna's stream
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>>90552848
Chill out watch some CCRRGG comfykino
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Aqua is literally the joker
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>>90552972
>SNOT
>S_N_
those two have to show up 1st
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Guess the lineup for FES is gonna come out soon. Seems like they are getting graduation announcements out beforehand.
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>>90553292
what are subhuman shitposters
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>>90552714
It's a pattern since they did incline when they shitted on nijisanji's downfall. Which is ironic considering how much dramatubers wanted to support nijisanji prior to the black stream. Heck they'be shown alot of restraint to niji compared to hololive for the slightest mishaps
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>>90553222
>she's going to burn it down instead of finishing it
Oh fuck no
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Cover really wants us to just accept talents leaving as some "phase" of hololive being over, like sure the girls won't stream forever but if they are graduating just because of stupid decisions it only makes me hate cover in the end
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>>90553381
Raora said she was providing emotional support..
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>>90553293
>Ever since Fauna became very disillusioned with Japan (due to no vegan options)
this fucking cracked me up
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>>90553293
Do you think she wants to move to sud Korea and work in a small ramen manufacturing factory too
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>>90553411
They're gonna be fine, Gigi is already an ascend start. Sadly I think this where it ends for me.
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>>90553377
Anon they can't even replace the JP talents that are leaving
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>>90553213
Millie like corpo bitch
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beeeg
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>>90553184
She didn't left, she was terminated. Also, THROWING SALT BE GONE EVIL SPIRIT
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>>90553429
The day Aqua left was the day Hololive died
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>>90553065
>Dev_is
>Future
Not with those numbers.
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>>90549881
Isn't the guy that called Miko fat also who called Sakamata's graduation earlier this month?
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>>90553377
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>>90553323
She's up and had anything planned for the stream, but obviously doesn't want to overlap a graduation announcement, she's not Botan, so she just jumped in the call with her two friends who were already up to at least show herself to day in order to cheer up the chattini who are having a bad day like every other holofan
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>>90553323
i think Fauna herself would've clarified by now is not actually a graduation anon, we know why thats not the case..
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Oh God, Fauna in next phase invaders please
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Years ago I warned people about not idolizing the funny meme fake ass pretend good-guy CEO that is yagoo. He isn't just some loveable goofball, he's an old japanese guy that wants money. That's all he ever was and all he ever will be. Keep in mind that every thing you have ever hated Cover doing was okayed by him and maybe even proposed by him as well. Never forget he has gone on record to say he wanted girls and homos to be like niji and always be together in one single brand and that he regretted separating them. He was never your friend and he never had your oshi's interests in mind.

And he's not changing his mind any time soon. If people leave, he will just replace them over time. If anything, he WANTS the senior girls to leave because he wants more eyes and hype to go towards new members and groups. Yagoo is not anyone's friend.
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>>90553411
I'm willing to believe in them
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>>90553436
New years countdown too
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>>90553567
Coco*
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BURN IT
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If she cries ill follow her forever and shit on cover, if she does a chloe ill just drop her and keep watching Holo
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>>90553432
Mumei is 100% coming back for at least one last promise collab.
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>>90551207
this is obviously a scheduled tweet
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>>90553466
It's a natural product of changing direction. No one is at fault. Accept it
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Will she at least give us a decent reason? (I know she won't fuck cover)
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>>90553714
>not on the clock
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>>90553065
I think the retards at cover genuinly think they can find the next first army in some experimental branch. The investors will also likely ask for JP7 with all these recent gradtuations
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>never got any hints any of this was going on
>not like with aqua where subaru was in depresso mode 2 months before the announcement and even cried on stream after the announcement
gen unity is fucking garbage nowadays
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>>90553639
/in/ posters belong on a cross
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>>90553411
Advent and Justice will be fine, tbdesu
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>advent and justice right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RBOwE51yUM
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I hope she goes full scorched earth and shits on management in the announcement. what are they gonna do? fire her?
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>>90553065
dev is cannot and will not replace anything, they are an addition
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>>90553567
*A-chan
Say what you will about her homopushing but it's clear now she was the last of upper management that put the talents first
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>>90553684
https://youtu.be/TVp7yLfnmrE?t=185
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I knew the sudden upsurge of flatties was foreshadowing, they are graduating all of the girls with huge tits
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>>90553272
It's called playing pretend. She wasn't allowed to say anything so she was just pretending. Also it's not like she can't use those singing lessons for future content after graduation.
Alternatively, she only decided to graduate very recently due to certain events or circumstances.
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>>90553638
Nah.
Think about it:
>If everyone assumes it's graduation and it IS graduation
obviously everyone will be sad but we've had hours to prep
>If everyone assumes it's graduation but it's just hiatus
Probably a fucking euphoria or some shit, even though it's clearly bad in the meantime
>If everyone is told it ISN'T graduation, but then it IS a long hiatus
The whiplash of "OH THANK GOD" to "OH GOD" would be so bad that people would freak out
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Should cover start producing ramen
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>>90553233
and?
Do you think she lied? Stop being retarded doxfaggot
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30,000 DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>90553816
she posted on roommate a few days ago
the people you kept calling "doxfags" were the real superfans all along and you're just a fucking casual who doesn't even care about the talent
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calm down, everything will be alright
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>>90553816
council has approximately 0 gen unity. always has been.
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>>90553837
You say that like the majority of Saplings wont just move onto Advent and Justice and keep watching streams.
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>>90553691
What's Chloe's reason again? I missed it.
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Even the usual jap Holo hugboxes are doomposting and posting sukikira rrats.
The mood is in the fucking gutter.
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BTW still no 1-on-1 collab with Ina despite sharing the same timeslot for 2 years
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>>90553648
To the anon who wanted to suck Yagoo's dick with a picrel. Where are you now
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>>90553411
Raora feel like a mother watching her kids playing game kek
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God notfauna's tell all is going to be delicious
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>>90553985
She hasn't clarified that it isn't a graduation knowing damn well what it looks like. It's a fucking graduation/affiliation
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>>90553933
Fauna is polite and kind, she wouldn't stress the saplings over something like this if it wasn't a graduation
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>>90553871
You're preaching to the choir here, but Cover obviously disagrees
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>>90554014
Ina is not even gonna be out of visa prison before Fauna is gone...
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>>90553837
More like justice. At least advent got a good year of peak holo until it all came crashing down
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>>90551180
Nah, I'll follow fauna wherever. Won't become an anti, but if gura and mumei are out too, then I won't be a fan anymore.
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>>90554006
Health issues + she feels she can't get anything more out of being in hololive and she wants to move on to something else.
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>>90553933
>If everyone is told it ISN'T graduation, but then it IS a long hiatus
So pic related
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>>90553865
completely unperson her like friend-R
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>>90553933
fair i guess..
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>>90554006
laplus said it was because of overwork and that she needed more sleep
i unironically believe it because of the whole haunted mansion arc. that girl is weird (though we still need to blame ame for setting up this free merch money loop hole for zero work)
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>>90553993
DYRBI?
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So anyways, how long until her roommate becomes a 3view? I am sick of all these lazy ungrateful bitches. They deserve to fail after they leave hololive.
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>>90551659
>the breadwinners are leaving
oh the horror they might actually have to earn their keep now
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>>90553377
I don't think anybody in EN can be considered a heavyweight at this point. Only Gura if she streamed. It's not Mythmania anymore.
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>>90554009
post some screens next thread please
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>>90553672
is there going to be a new year countdown?
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>>90553411
the future of en are twitch vtubers.
So nothing changed I guess
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>>90554272
(You)
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>>90554194
Stop shitting on talents when it has become abundantly clear that this was Cover's idea and that they are the problem
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>>90554207
DORYAAAAAA
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>Kronii will be forced to acknowledge fauna's existence
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>>90553985
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>>90553816
>gen unity is fucking garbage nowadays
Maybe people would think it's a bad idea that management and even susei telling everyone to just accept it is bad but no. Here we are
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>>90554267
Yes, 100% absolutely. That's what happened with Teammates.
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>>90554098
No but like I'm saying that if she goes "It's not a graduation" but then it is essentially as close as it can be, it could be WORSE for her fans because they had the initial shock, felt like they could calm down, and then got hit with ANOTHER shock.
It's a situation where there is no good option, but being quiet is the best option if it has to happen. Either way, mind you. That's true if this IS a graduation as well, because then that means the worst of the emotions are already being felt, and won't hit like a truck again during the actual thing.
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>>90553065
That's the problem. I don't think they will debut more holoJP. Device is the brilliant idea of cover to replace hololive. I think this is a new change of direction. They plan to have only slave girls that will obey every retarded idea/project from management. Now, they are making hilos to quit by overworking them with meaningless 'homework' and denying projects that do not align with cover new vision.
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>>90552972
We're double graduating this month. Gura not being in Marine's sololive (it can be pre-recorded) is a major red flag.
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>>90553272
She didn't know about the affiliate option back then
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>>90554354
Thanks.
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>Fauna stays, I watch streams
>Fauna goes, I watch streams sadly
I don't really feel like going back to my old hobbies so I'm going to stick around at least as long as Gura and Mumei are in Hololive. After that I guess I'll just mow the lawn every day or something.
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>Follow Dokishill
>Sudden Roomate posting
>Graduation
2nd time it has happened. I think Dokishill is sabotaging HoloEN.
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>>90554410
I mean Suisei is getting everything she wants so of course she's fine with it.
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>start vtuber streamer company
>hire a bunch of streamers/content creators as talent
>get popular
>transition away from streaming into events and merchandising
>content creators are now discontent because they can no longer create the content they want
Simple as
Fuck you Yagoo
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Fubuki`s silence is deafeneing
SHE PROMISED
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>>90550947
>shiori will graduate after getting pregnant
>nerissa will be arrested for kidnapping and raping a man until she got pregnant
>mococo's illness will finally take her and fuwawa will an hero
>biboo will go into hiding after being gangbanged by fat japanes ojisans on a train
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Doki’s tournament is gonna get shafted by Fauna’s graduation announcement lol
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>>90554490
you mean saving
just like she saved niji EN
doki is literally vtuber jesus
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>>90553837
I unironically hope they can continue to thrive as the old members go to retirement
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>>90548704
Not
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>>90554102
if they disagreed thry would have just released the groups in HoloJP, instead they made sure to keep things clean and seperate. Now don't get me wrong, something is going wrong but them creating DevIs isn't causing members to leave.
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So... when fauna raided mint... what the fuck was it about really?
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>>90554433
>It's a situation where there is no good option
there is a good option [Important announcement (the serious kind - not graduation)] all she had to do was clarify that it wasn't the single worst time imaginable
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>mfw Hololive is starting to keep up with Niji graduation rate despite having 3x less livers
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>>90554563
>Doki’s tournament
what tournament?
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>>90554490
I blame Gigi moreso. Every single girl she's gotten close to is graduating. Fucking niji slut
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>>90554443
Still a retard for ignoring her own words and also ignoring the now very obvious existence of some sort of queue limiting them to 1 per month
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>>90554633
getting into good graces of Queen Bee
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>>90548704
TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
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>>90554115
the usual angles are:
- you can't have fauna and notfauna in the same thread, it's dox
- if you support notfauna, you should stop posting fauna
- if you support fauna, you should hope notfauna fails so she will go back to hololive
- if you support notfauna, you will watch indie whores too
i think i covered everything. the split schizos are not very creative so you might as well prep for them now.
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>>90554551
Even a bootlicker has to stop for breath now and then
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>>90554551
She is manufacturer of ramen in sud Korea now she's busy don't bother her moron
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>>90553567
*Aloe
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>>90554515
It's definitely this. How the fuck could they fuck it up so badly?



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