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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/
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Reminder that we hate flatties here
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Blessing this lovely FauMint thread!
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10K GIGI
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Reminder that we love Fauna here
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>>91740088
Basically it’s
>I think she’s dumb for doing it but whatever makes her happy
Mind you that Ina had a really good fucking reason the graduate out of spite with her whole visa issue
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I hate tuesdays. Well at least I'm building my new PC while listening to GG now.
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>>91740232
This the cuckposter btw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc1cc_fxpfk
>vtuber companies fail because managers are incompetent and don't support the talents the right way
Do you agree?
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GG is someone who I think will benefit greatly with a home 3d model
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>>91740330
nah, Idol failed and they gave a lot of support to the girls
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>>91740330
Sounds like someone is upset they their manager didn't DM Gura for that collab
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>>91740282
Everything wasn't great for Fauna though. She left because of her disagreement with management and wanted to stay otherwise. Did Ina even watch her graduation announcement?
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Double Ina
https://youtube.com/watch?v=szOlDE42Rcc
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>>91740330
>hololive management is shit and their support are questionable
>hololive is no 1 vtuber company in the world
Does not compute
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>>91740330
they fail because they don't have strong branding and content that distinguish them from the rest of the slop
it's the same with literally every product/service
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>>91740330
He said that for startups not for bigger ones
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>>91740330
Out of the companies that have failed, I would say that the vast majority of them have been corpos where the entire thing was basically an operation that went:
>We need one of our girls to be a smash hit or we will fucking die
and then they didn't become smash hits, so they died.
Out of all the dead small corpos, only a small handful don't meet that criteria (Tsunderia collapsed because they bet on a new gen with their finances, but then the gen got poached, whereas idol just got bought out after the sexpest scandal with all of Gen 2 being recruited by said sexpest)
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You know my oshi was talking about this recently, but I’ve realized this kind of corruption of being a DD and conflating liking a chuuba into her being your “oshi” and the “oshi” you like the most is your “kamioshi.”
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>>91740330
Support is then he can shit on them because he forgot to take his meds?
Or it's the other faggot?
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>>91740507
>more retarded posing from people who discovered idol culture through hololive in 2020
Oshi is not the vtuber term for waifu retard
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>>91740507
People love to step the level of commitment up a notch in name, without actually doing so in commitment
When I joined, it was "girls you are fans of/DD for, then your OSHI" but now people go "your OSHIS, then your KAMIOSHI"
and I'm already seeing some people go "Your KAMIOSHIS, and your #1 KAMIOSHI"
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>>91740589
>Oshi is not the vtuber term for waifu
It literally is now sorry you may not like it but in the same way that people use "literally" as an emphasis instead of it's literal meaning, that's what happened
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>some random slop sponsor every week now
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>fanta
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>>91740500
They fail because most of the small corpos still have the mentality of competing with their competitor from 5 years ago.
>SHE'S UNHINGED AND CHAOTIC
>WATCH THEM, THEY'RE LIKE EARLY HOLOLIVE
The meta has shifted, it's meme brainrot nowadays.
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>>91740714
>slop
>Philips
Do you even know how wrong you are?
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>>91740507
This is why the pure One Oshi is the real deal.
I only have 1 and I hate her, but god damn I am sticking to her until her graduation
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>>91740471
Does Ina love Sana?
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>>91740749
this nigga dutch lmao
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>>91740714
Oh fuck guys you know what this means, CD-I perms INCOMING
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>>91740585
This is the homo that forgot his "antianxiety" pills home and couldn't join the homo collabs, bero issues joining the collab with the girls in that timeframe
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>>91740461
You should probably be open to the possibility that Fauna isn't telling the complete truth.
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>>91740686
V-tweeter
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>>91740762
I KNOW YOU ARE TOO KEK
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>>91740714
>pay for Holo sponsorship
>Get fucking Aki and Roboco
Might as well give it to homos at that point
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>>91740589
I know what oshi means, I know about JP idol culture, I’m just speaking from the development of the term in the vtuber sphere. Like what this anon says >>91740658
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>>91740822
If the daughter is a loli...
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So what im hearing is right??? Ina is part of the management team now???
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>not just one, but TWO dutch people here
>maybe more, even
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>>91740802
I'm not but I know only the d*tch would be offended by someone incidentally insulting Philips
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>>91740783
Oh, so that's him thanks anon
It's ironic to see him talking about support and management
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>>91740178
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>43,922: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,808: Miko (Hololive)
>24,065: Fauna (Hololive)
>20,130: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,022: Botan (Hololive)
>18,749: Watame (Hololive)
>17,837: Patra (Indie)
>16,723: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,017: AZKi (Hololive)
>15,494: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>14,861: Mio (Hololive)
>14,731: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>14,384: Bijou (Hololive)
>13,560: Calliope (Hololive)
>13,458: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,203: Chloe (Hololive)
>12,611: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,523: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,475: Korone (Hololive)
>10,439: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
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>>91740788
Cover would literally not let her lie about this though
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>>91740896
HOLY KEK NOT LIKE THIS
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>Sometimes even when things are great people just wanna try something new
Can't tell if this is ina shitting on fauna or not?
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>>91740714
>All the concerts and sponsors pushed to December
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>>91740896
The Dutch are not real
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>>91740945
That's what everyone said about Ame too.
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>>91740945
That's not shitting on anyone, that's a real fact of adult life
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>>91740822
>Jenna Ortega
My dick...
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>>91740822
Saplings in about a month kek
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>>91740896
Reminder that this guy is actually a brown haired and brown eyed Indonesian
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>>91740929
I'm gonna colonize (you)
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>>91740945
She's not shitting on anyone she just literally doesn't know why Fauna is leaving
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>>91740945
If you have to jump through hoops to make it shitting on someone, you're probably a schizo.
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>>91740935
DECEMBER 2024 GOLD
>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement
>2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement
>4) 63,421: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement
>6) 54,332: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1
>8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE
>9) 59,309: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>10) 69,576: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>11) 58,039: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>12) 73,665: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D debut
>14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) Gamers 3D Live
>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical
>16) 44,102: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>17) 43,922: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro

> PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
7x: Kuzuha
2x: Marine
1x: Fauna, Mito, Korone, Shion, Shiba, Hololive, Hololive English, Pekora
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>>91740945
Oh we all know what that "new thing" she wants to try is lmao
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>>91740945
It's typical of guys who quit their cushy jobs to pursue their dream because they already have enough money
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>>91741023
>why Fauna is leaving
Differences with management, watch stream
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>>91740997
Who, Geert Wilders?
If you mean me as in the poster, I'm not indo, I'm Italian-American (up to you if that's better or worse) but I at least have the funky grey eyes
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>>91740483
this pretty much. The successful corpos distinguish themselves in some way. Nijisanji initially distinguished itself with the initial use of live2d, which became implemented everywhere, it defines normal vtubing in japan.
Hololive differentiated itself with its light kayfaybe and friendly cgdct atmosphere that only grew stronger as more gens debuted. This isn't something that came down from on high, but was a choice comeing from the majority of talents, who like the atmosphere, even if they aren't all permanently part of it. This coming from them is what is so difficult for other companies to emulate, and that's why Cover is still unmatched in its niche.

Vshojo is differentied by Ironmouse.

Thats it, there is nothing else, without Ironmouse vshojo would be nothing these days, it might as well be renamed Ironmouse and friends company, starring Ironmouse.
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>>91740945
that sounds like Fauna is having a mid-life crisis
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>>91740945
Ina is basically Bae's girlfriend anon, shes obviously management team, we have known this for a while
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>>91741040
DECEMBER 2024 SILVER
>1) 79,353: Towa (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament
>2) 48,620: Suisei (Hololive) ShiraKen League + Announcement
>3) 58,773: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW
>5) 54,396: Marine (Hololive) Gyakutotsu before sololive
>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>7) 60,908: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR GTA 3
>8) 69,306: Marine (Hololive) Sololive DAY2 free part
>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi
>10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat
>11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko
>12) 44,583: Miko (Hololive) Kanji de GO!
>13) 88,384: Ayame (Hololive) Birthday 3D live
>14) 42,905: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>15) 42,849: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>16) 42,289: Fubuki (Hololive) Unrailed 2
>17) 36,808: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22

> PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
3x: Marine, Miko
2x: Kuzuha, Pekora, Fubuki
1x: Towa, Suisei, Mio, Subaru, Ayame
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>>91740330
Most of them, good or bad, never have someone who pops off (like Pippa) to keep them afloat and just run out of money
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>>91741076
Except that's not what Ina even remotely closed to implying you stupid faggot. That's why I said she literally doesn't know why she's leaving because she probably never asked or cared to
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>>91740945
>the reason why I'm graduating is disagreements with management
>I'm not leaving because I don't want to be here
Unless Fauna was lying that sounds like some half assed cope to be honest
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Can we just admit now that Fauna's issues are very exclusive to her? No EN this year has been more screwed over by Japanese autism and Cover incompetence than Ina, and she didn't come down hard an management and even praised her manager on stream today. Seems that all this isn't really a grand Hololive issue, no conspiracy against streaming or direction change or any other rrat, it's a Fauna issue.
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There is too many Dutch people in this thread proportional to the size of the country
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>>91741110
DECEMBER 2024 BRONZE
>1) 48,874: Lui (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament
>2) 42,954: Miko (Hololive) Talk stream
>3) 58,284: Rena (Nijisanji) SMC Christmas 2024
>4) 41,780: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #03
>5) 46,918: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>6) 25,967: Wen (Nijisanji) collab
>7) 54,256: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22
>8) 65,420: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>9) 45,152: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest III
>10) 37,515: Suisei (Hololive) Live Tour free part
>11) 37,854: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>12) 32,290: Marine (Hololive) sololive outfit reveal
>13) 54,633: Pekora (Hololive) The game awards watchalong
>14) 35,370: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>15) 34,155: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>16) 29,013: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) Love advice w/Toya
>17) 24,065: Fauna (Hololive) Mindcraft

> PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora, Miko
2x: Kuzuha, Marine
1x: Lui, Rena, Wen, Suisei, Noel, Hoshikawa, Fauna
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>>91741076
If the girl who got fucked over by Visa issues says things are great, then Fauna is either hiding something or is a massive quitter
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>>91741116
*was even remotely close to implying
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>>91740282
It is pretty wild she said that especially after visa thing just happened...
Overall HoloEN reaction was super fucking weird. Kinda like JP disbelief about Aqua but much... less understanding I guess? A lot of them reacted kinda like Subaru did tho she stated her reasons clearly.
I'm kinda starting to think that Fauna did have a woman moment...
Well it doesn't get less sad but I wish all holos could be happy in hololive....
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>>91741157
Bae fucked Ina in japan until she agreed to do PR for cover
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>>91740822
I though it said Omega for a moment
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>>91740822
Ack-...
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>>91741176
>>91741195
I've been saying this for a while but I really do think the Visa thing is less on Cover and much more on the government
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>【Aegis-Link】
Where their numbers good? (over 1k debut)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_1GAgCe6PA
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>>91741157
yeah, there's absolutely no evidence of any change in direction.
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>>91740330
This nigger has no special insight, he's only ever been an indie and a sidebranch of a sidebranch where someone else took care of all the business stuff
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>>91741142
Sounds like you're the one coping at this point. Keep reaching for something that isn't there. You'll get it one day.
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I wonder if Mumei still remember that she hasn't finished drawing the profile pictures
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>>91741091
Ironmouse dont even care about Vshojo
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>>91741312
I don't think she cares lol
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>>91741195
Thats the thing that confuses me, when ame anounces her not-graduation everyone was sad and understanding, whereas with Fauna every EN girls has come out and said "Things are good on my end, so IDK, hope shes happy"
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>>91741312
If you actually cared, you'd know the answer to that.
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>>91740178
*YESTERDAY’S EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY*
>12/17 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)
4.013: Dokibird (Indie) | Variety Stream
2.239: Fulgur (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting
1.639: Bettel (Holostars) | Week in Review
1.417: Bettel (Holostars) | Marvel Rivals
1.359: Meloco (Nijisanji) | The Quarry
1.339: Reimu (Nijisanji) | Buckshot Roulette w/ Enna, Millie, Ren
1.138: Panko (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream
1.123: Lia (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream
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>>91741097
>The girl who always talks about imposter syndrome and hating confrontation can't handle life in the biggest corpo
You might be on to something.
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>>91740330
dont ever post that homo faggot here again, beggar
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>>91741312
Finishing something for my genmates??? sigh
A Halo reach collab with CC??? YABBA DABBA DOOOOO
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>>91740330
I'm not watching this shit BUT
only corpos worth talking about were early one like upd8 etc who fucked up real fucking hard so there's a lesson to learn here.
Other than that? Every corpo can't be successful so obviously fuckton of them fail
it's basically this
>The failure rates of businesses show that around 20% fail in their first year and about half of businesses are still standing after 5 years. Certain startups, however, tend to have a 90% failure rate and somehow, this statistic became the norm
and there's no real reason to even talk about it
muh managers is cope
sure they are incompetent faggots but it's the case with most things
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DRINK
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>>91741091
I will say it again as I've said it before:
If anyone wants to make a successful Vtubing company, the first thing they need to read is this book
It unironically explains exactly how Hololive came to it's success and how Nijisanji started to collapse, specifically Nijisanji EN. (it also recently helped oust the Assad dynasty but that's tangential)
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>>91740945
Ina has never cared for anyone's graduation.
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>>91741195
>kinda like Subaru
Subaru blamed herself and lamented if she didn't do enough, she didn't truly accept Aqua leaving either until after the graduation live. To some extent Kiara did the same for Ame until the bitter end, but I can't think of any EN who had such a reaction for Fauna
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>>91740178
DECEMBER 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement
>2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement
>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW
>5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement
>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1
>8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE
>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi
>10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat
>11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko
>12) 28,137: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #5 [5th]
>13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D debut
>14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) Gamers 3D Live
>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical
>16) 29,013: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) Love advice w/Toya
>17) 20,022: Botan (Hololive) Nepolabo Hewlett-Packard sponsor stream

> PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji
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>>91741401
>profile pictures
>genmates
????? What's the connection
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>>91741142
>Unless Fauna was lying that sounds like some half assed cope to be honest
So every single girl is wrong and only Fauna is speaking the truth yeah right. Fauna of all people who already had previous issues with backstabbing people.
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>Will Gigi say "nigga"
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Cover should do a holoRevival gen where they recast the VAs for graduated characters. No point in letting those models and brands go to waste.
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>>91740945
Idk why people assumed it's only fauna she was talking about she said THEY multiple times and she was in umisea with Chloe who lines up more with this.
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>>91740330
>orc
Kill yourself
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>Fauna of all people who already had previous issues with backstabbing people.
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>>91741432
DECEMBER 2024 holoID
>1) 3,022: Anya (A Shut-In Daughter)
>2) 7,657: Risu (M.M.M.)
>3) 4,951: Reine (All You Need is Help)
>4) 3,357: Ollie (ANNIVERSARY COUNTDOWN Utawaku)
>5) 7,125: Anya (4TH ANNIVERSARY Call-In Celebration)
>6) 2,872: Kobo (Honor of Kings)
>7) 6,193: Kaela (Path of Exile 2)
>8) 2,485: Moona (HoloParade)
>9) 3,673: Anya (KUUKIYOMI 4)
>10) 5,100: Kaela (Path of Exile 2)
>11) 2,340: Moona (Path of Exile 2)
>12) 12,179: Kobo (KOBORNDAY2024)
>13) 5,648: Kaela (Balatro)
>14) 5,101: Kaela (Balatro)
>15) 2,659: Kaela (Honor or Kings)
>16) 2,414: Kaela (PEJUANG SENIN)
>17) 4,068: Kaela (Crime Scene Cleaner)

> PER STREAMER
7x: Kaela
3x: Anya
2x: Moona, Kobo
1x: Risu, Reine, Ollie
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>>91741509
She should replace it with Gigga
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>>91741421
would the cliff notes be enough?
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Fauna broke you
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>>91741482
Shondocuck
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>>91741079
Yes him, his mother is Indonesian. He bleaches his hair and wears contacts.
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It's still crazy how, speaking of UMISEA, 3/5 members of that have already graduated. Like, fucking hell, man. Aqua? Chloe? and now Fauna? that group is so cursed, man.
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>>91741142
>>91740945
shes leaving because she doesnt want to do the jp trips, shes literally quitting right before the next trips for new year and holo fes
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>>91741509
Which holo girls have said nigga, Kiara, Mori, Ame, and thats it?
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>>91741627
Miko
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GOOOOOOOOOD MORNING SOUTH EAST ASIA
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>>91741625
>new year
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>>91741532
>people
Can't really use Chloe as bait very effectively here, that's why
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Everyone is out for themselves. Nobody really cares who graduated or why.
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>>91741611
This is why talents should decide sub units.
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>>91741593
Only for a coward
The audiobook is enough of a substitute, just throw that shit on during the commute. And if you don't want to pay for it, it's easy enough to aquire
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>>91741627
IRyS with that baby in her first or second week
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>>91741157
Fauna most likely had no serious issues, used the management shit as an excuse to leave and wanted the drama buff. Is this something really that hard to believe?
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Off-topic news, that one jew who outjewed liggers and got found out is trying to do it again. >>91741165
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>>91741674
Retard
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>>91741195
gura and mumei haven't come out with the standard line, and they're her actual friends
it suggests there was some fauna-specific problem/mistreatment that the rest don't know about
hard to tell though
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>>91741625
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>>91741672
>Kanata went menhera
>Iroha currently can't speak due to the impact of stress from Chloe's announcement
People seem to care about Chloe.
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>>91741611
>Fauna
>UMISEA
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>>91741607
>it's true
that's hilarious considering his positions, God damn
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>>91741627
>Ame
Speaking of that, let's move back to this conversation because now that we know more about her, it's worth asking:
Was Ame allowed to say it? Like, Latinos can say nigga, right? They're good?
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>>91741753
She's the kelp.
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>>91741584
>Gigi > Gigga
>Nerissa > Nerigga
>Kiara > Chigga
>Fauna > Figga
>Moom > Migga
>Irys > Irygga
>Shiori > Shigga
>Biboo > Bibba
>FuwaMoco > Fuwigga & Mocigga
>Ame > Nigger
>Miko > Nigggaaaaaaaaa
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>>91741718
No, I believe that personally, but most of this thread doesn't because they don't want to accept that maybe Fauna was being manipulative.
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>>91741817
According to my black friends they hate latinos saying it more than white ppl
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>>91741817
In many ways, the 2024 election was a referendum on whether or not latinos can say nigga
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>>91741817
Saying it Ina negative way is bad, but normal people don't care if if you say it in the way Kiara and Ame said it
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Is this why phasecucks are so loud today? not even 1k waiting?
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>>91741817
>Latinos can say nigga
Yes https://youtu.be/KnZ9H7aKBcI
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>>91741817
Depends on how brown the specific latino is, Ame is WAYYYY too white, cubans in general are too light in complexion
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>>91741672
Kaela and Reine cared. Gura did too, Gura straight up didn't even try to defend management.
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>>91741730
Mumei hasn't said shit yet on stream.
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...Weeks later and he's still seething about Fauna.
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>>91741347
Because they realize having 4 graduations in 4 months make it looks like things are completely falling apart. Self-preservation instincts are kicking in so they're focusing more on damage control than empathy.
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>>91741881
>Ina negative way
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>>91741935
>Kaela and Reine
Wow damn that's crazy, does anyone know where the mighty Iofi stands on this issue?
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>>91741421
based neoliberal
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>Illegal Z is going to count because it didn't get caught by the filter
The sanctity of the tally... no...
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>>91741312
Sorry, too busy drawing her own stuff, fan pfps are cringe looking.
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>>91741910
Most cubans are dark. Only Argentinians and northern Mexicans are "white" enough to be not brown.
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>>91741935
Gura only said "support the talents", which is basically the same thing Mori and half the other girls said
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>>91742009
Mumei answering "Georgism" that one time in Jackbox has fueled me for years now
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>>91740330
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc1cc_fxpfk
They hated him because he told the truth.
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>>91741994
> Ignoring Gura.
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>>91742028
Hehe
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>>91740939
You say that like cover has assassins on tap pointing their guns at Fauna's head or something
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>>91741157
>she didn't come down hard an management and even praised her manager on stream today.
She was pretty fucking mad about the whole Visa thing anon, did you not watch that stream before the break? Pretty close to quitting mad, but she really has a great a manager. It makes a very big diffrence
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>>91742058
Got a timestamp?
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>>91742046
Nah, theres a ton of white latinos, south america is a hafu apocalypse
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>>91742076
Towa got in trouble for lying about management why the fuck wouldn't Fauna. They had no reason to approve the message if it was a lie because it would've made them out to look bad vs just simply "creative differences"
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>>91742046
>Argentinians
>"white" enough
El argensimio creyéndose la gran cosa de nuevo.
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I feel bad for Chloe in all of this. Fauna's announcement caused a lot of trouble for Cover, which bled through to the feelings surrounding Chloe's graduation. Fauna should have waited until shortly after Chloe's actual graduation date and then she should have made Cover release a statement saying she's gone.
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>>91740330
Whats more funny is that nobody gave a shit about him for 2 years, but now he is starting to get a few 100 views with this grift so he has to continue doing it or he loses the attention of dramafags who want to go "eX hOlO sAId tHIs!!"
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https://youtu.be/szOlDE42Rcc
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>>91742156
We doing another whiteness timeloop?
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>>91741773
Zach from Saved by the Bell 1/2 Indonesian 1/2 Dutch. Seems it's not uncommon in the Netherlands and a lot of them just look white. I suspect the "Indo" part of their ancestry was partly Dutch-Indo making them mostly European admixture.
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>>91740330
Speaking of, whens that Dooby collab coming, yknow, talent freedom and all that
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>>91742143
Based and true
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>>91742161
Chloe has 21 more days to do her graduation stuff after Fauna leaves
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>>91741625
She's talked about a trip to Japan in like the last three streams she did
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>>91740268
Coom in the shark womb
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>>91742098
https://www.youtube.com/live/3Tn2XhYMWpw?si=BbjEdtjWUGNyeudk&t=3532
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>>91742263
Hopefully that will be enough time to wash the stain of Fauna away.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOlDE42Rcc
potential namie collab?
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>>91741347
For one thing Ame did her best to cushion her graduation message so it didn't create a massive uproar, unlike Fauna who went "I'm graduating because management bad, peace lol" and let everyone else deal with the pieces.

For another, and this is just me spitballing, but I bet you ame actually did talk to everyone about her plans, whereas Fauna mostly kept to herself about it until shortly before the reveal
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Whatever happened to that new agency Omega was directing? The one where he tried to signal that he was Omega in his own bio. Dude is so insignificant I’m not sure anyone remembers what I’m referring to
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>>91742233
Vtuber example, Roca Rourin, the singer one who just got into some medical emergency, is Dutch-Indo too.
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>>91741941
Try 3 and a half years. Don't he'll keep going for 4 years. At least
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>>91742395
Holy shit kill yourself
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>>91742161
>Fauna should have waited until shortly after Chloe's actual graduation date
She probably couldn't. I strongly suspect Cover wanted her to get it out before the FES announcement and either asked or forced her to move it up. Multiple people said they didn't expect it this early, and she was still making plans and starting long games just before the announcement.
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>>91742395
The others knew about it for months but you don't watch streams
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>>91742163
He did one over a year ago and it did good for his size. It became suspect of grift now because he released 2(3?) more vids of the subject in a short period of time
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>>91742395
It's worth remembering that literally up until the very last moment, Ame refused to commit to fucking anything
Her final graduation words were
>I'M NOT GONE FOREVER DON'T WORRY THIS ISN'T A GOODBYE AFFILIATION REMEMBER SEE YOUUUUUUUU
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>>91742395
Cover should sue Fauna for that. She directly harmed the brand and set her fans against management, which made the loyal holos uncomfortable.
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>>91742465
Sapling seethe
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>>91742506
NIJISEETHE
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>>91742505
That shit was so funny, Teamates are now forever stuck in semi-holo purgatory so they cant really leave
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>>91742518
Biboo knew about it for months before the announcement, shitnigger-kun.
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>>91742559
I'd like to hug her face if you know what I mean
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What would GG taste like if you licked her
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>>91742449
Roca is half but more mixed because her indo side is already mixed too. It's a bit like Zeta
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>>91742395
Because Ame didn't fucking graduate. She affiliated. And all it did was cause confusion instead because, to this day, no one fucking understands the point of affiliation.
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>>91742615
pepsi cola
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijeZSVQArII
soon?
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>>91742615
Milk n banana (artificial banana flavoring)
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>>91742615
salt and womanly body wash
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>>91742615
Like salty coins and milk
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>>91742695
h-hot...
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>>91742615
sweat, grease, a bit of piss
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>>91742685
Affiliation = amicable
Graduation and termination = not amicable
Aqua is the only exception to this for recent graduations. Affiliation wasn't an option when she left, but she would have taken it if it was an option.
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>>91742685
That she can come back for stuff and get included in projects like the upcoming holoEN song, after january Fauna is gone forever
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>>91742777
Wow a retard
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>>91742777
>but she would have taken it if it was an option.
No she wouldn't. Have you listened to anything she fucking said post Holo.
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>>91742777
She might not, one of her goals for graduating is to give aqua a proper conclusion so
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>>91742711
Dizzy oughta sit on my face
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>>91742841
>Ame loves hololive
>Chloe loves hololive
>both go affiliate
>Fauna hates hololive
>graduates even though affiliation (and returning with this) is an option
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>>91742462
Yeah, she finally graduated. I don't know what more he wants, kinda sad.
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>>91742910
Wow a retard
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>>91741973
And you can blame Fauna for giving the most antagonistic graduating message in hololive history
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>>91742685
Stop believing corpospeak, retard. No difference between "graduation" and "affiliation". Sana is technically an affiliate as well since she worked with Cover recently, but it wasn't stated as that at the time.
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>>91742957
Its just true tho, Fauna deliberately graduated when you can affiliate now
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No seriously why the fuck do all the girls want gigi so bad?
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>>91742970
>No difference between "graduation" and "affiliation".
you're actually retarded brother
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>>91742964
Cover should have just terminated her.
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>>91743034
Wow a retard
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>>91742125
What are they going to do, fire her? I'm serious, at this point there's really nothing they can do to police Fauna's message that wouldn't make them look worse, unlike in Towa's case where she's still wants to be part of the company and thus has an incentive to follow company directives.
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Is it really going to do this time loop again?
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>>91740965
80% of advertising budgets are spent in november and december every year
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>>91743043
tight hebe pussy is a drug that the strongest alchemists could not hope to recreate
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>>91743061
NIJISEETHE
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>>91742395
The last part is true from what other girls have said, they knew Fauna was graduating for a while but the actual announcement seems to have caught some by surprise. There were streams that day that were canceled if you remember.
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>enter /#/
>retarded interpretations and logical leaps getting way too many replies
home
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>>91742711
Soon what? This isn't the new gen.
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>>91743102
This.
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>>91742615
dorito dust
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>>91743093
>What are they going to do, fire her
Yes? And she loses out on money?
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Clarity really suits Gigi's voice
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>>91743043
She has that pathetic beta male appeal in the land of only girls
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> Naruto = Bae
> Sasuke = Mumei
> Sakura = IRyS
> Kakashi = Fauna
> Sana = Obito
> Kronii = orochimaru
> Mori = Tsunade
> Gura = Itachi
> Kiara = Kiba
> Ame = Neji
> Ina = Hinata
> Fuwawa = Samui
> Mococo = Guy
> Nerissa = Shino
> Biboo = Rock lee
>Shiori = Shikamaru
>GG = Killer Bee
>CC = Haku
> ERB = TenTen
> Roara = Temari
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>>91742685
Get used to affiliation being the new graduation. There's no reason to graduate unless you can't stand to occasionally work with cover or want to join another company
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>>91742848
>Have you listened to anything she fucking said post Holo.
proof?
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JUMP
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I hate Biboo and her stupid pussy so much man she flaunts it every time she's over aaaaaaghhhh punch punch punch punch punch
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>>91742484
I don't believe that because she had already started doing things on RM weeks before.
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>>91743153
2 more weeks. I get to see both the annoying saplings and its variety of shitposters leave. I am the only winner here.
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Gigi Passed the Z peak.
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>>91743258
>Nerissa = Shino
I'm so curious to understand the logic at work for this pick above everything else
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>>91742826
That song has been in production before she left. Affiliation is to prevent stuff from being redone or canned.
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>>91743093
> Thinking that firing her isn't a punishment.
Ennacuck is unemployed lol.
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>>91743096
>Fauna op
>timeloops
Like clockwork
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I will post this every day until you like it until she redebuts
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>>91743504
I HATE IT
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>>91743093
Fire her and take legal action, yes.
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>>91741023
>she just literally doesn't know why Fauna is leaving
HONESTL, at this point I don't anyone actually knows. Everyone seems equally as confused at her doing so, and it doesn't help that most of their statements amount to "I've it pretty good being real, but if she doesn't vibe with it, it's alright"
At this point we all have to wait to see if she brings it up a couple of months into her redebut, it will simply stay a mystery
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>>91743479
>>91743199
>he thinks firing her would make cover look better
Once again I thank God none of you retards are making decisions at cover
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>>91743553
Reine knows. She said it was understandable.
Kaela knows, she was just hoping she had a plan instead of quitting without one.
Gura seems to know otherwise she would've given the same canned "yeah management is OK bro, it's fine for me things are changing but it's good I swear" shit instead of just saying to support the talent
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>>91742484
Move it up my ass, she's graduating on Jan 3rd, there's not much time left to make the announcement unless she wants to drop it literally before Christmas break as a little gift to her fans
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>>91741718
>Is this something really that hard to believe?
Fauna is not that kind of person, SPECIALLY not when she still has a ton of friends within Hololive, why would try to get buffed by drama at the expense of her friends, x2 when you consider that they're at this point, her only active online friends
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>>91742773
How did she get piss all over her skin
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>>91743559
They just need to release a statement clarifying that Fauna lied about her reason for quitting.
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>>91743559
Ennacuck, how the heck you can bot people without having a job?
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>>91743673
>"yeah management is OK bro, it's fine for me things are changing but it's good I swear"
That's from Bae not Gura
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>>91743727
Yeah like nijisanji released a statement about Selen amirite?
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I actually forgot Zeta exists...
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>>91743432
The clarity buff is real
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>>91741091
>Vshojo is differentied by Ironmouse
funny because mouse was the smallest one when vshojo started. Melody was the face of the company for some time.
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Ina should jerk me off desu
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>>91740461
>wanted to stay otherwise
Alex I will take coping for 1000
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>>91743553
At this point I'm inclined to go back to one of the original rrats and believe that some indies convinced her to leave, and she didn't think there was much risk after seeing the various successful reincarnations from the past year or so.
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>>91743758
You can't read
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>May 2024
>Fauna (post-Hololive) starts up a stream
>decides to just go on a tangent about her past job
>says fuck it and goes full mask off in terms of metaphors, just outright states it:
>"I left because things got weird after the group orgy after our baking collab and the vibe was never the same but management wouldn't let me not collab with my genmates"
how would you feel
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>>91743673
Make it less obvious how badly you want holos to be secretly unhappy
It's a good thing for girls to say they are happy and reassure their fans
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>>91743824
Yeah, just realize my mistake. I'm sleepy
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>>91742009
>>91741693
>>91741593
>>91741421
Friendly reminder that this is a pro immigration por diversity book btw
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>>91743711
*sigh* it really is too easy once HoloEn gets serious, and people thought we needed Fauna
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>>91743719
Her weird retarded dog can fly
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>>91743444
Kind, strong, and good at taking care of other the only thing that holds her back is her confidence.
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>>91743801
ina should tongued my anus while milking me dry
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>>91740945
>Can't tell if this is ina shitting on fauna or not?
david bowie killed his personas when they were in their peak, all artistic people are menhera that get bored easily and sometimes there is no rational explanation(hell even gura talked about wanting to reinvent herself)
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>>91743702
You don't know Fauna or what she's really like, everything posted here is speculation.
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>>91743711
>Kiara lost to a fucking watchalong
Kfp.....
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>>91743780
Her best JP friend is Matsuri. That's understandable.
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>>91740330
Always hilarious to watch #s getting farmed by this retard
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>>91740330
Tsunderia has great management and they went belly up so no
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>>91743057
Explain what's the difference, Cover shill. Dooby isn't going to come back as Ame. Both her and Chloe said they were never going to stream again. It's no different from Sana.
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>>91740330
>>91741091
>>91741421
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>>91743856
And guess what nigger it worked in every practical stress test the book's ever gotten
Shit's got a more successful track record for establishing successful states and companies than the communist manifesto and mein kampf combined
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>>91743320
Calm down IRyS
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>>91743933
I think the homo managed to completely destroy her mindshare to be honest
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>>91743895
You know what? I see the vision now, fair
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>>91743925
Gura has already drastically reinvented herself multiple times.
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>>91741421
Can you provide a cliff notes version of how it relates to nijisanji failing?
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>this is happening in 3 Days
>The only fucking people with it on their schedule is Fuwamoco
>They still haven't announced the guest list despite it saying it's soon
What the fuck is their plan, why are they refusing to hype this up
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>still no homos graduation
grim
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jwu qrd on ninners stream?
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>>91744157
Management good
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>>91743980
>what's the difference
The difference is plainly obvious: You can come back for things like guest star roles if you ever want to, and they can keep putting merch out that the talent will still get a profit from. Which is not the same as saying "they can come back and stream like nothing changed" or anything, but it's specifically different from graduation, where such things don't really happen. The Sana thing, you're talking about the plushies being reissued, which was taking a pre-existing merch run and re-issuing it, not making something new.
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>>91743980
It's literally so they can still use things they've made
That's it
No appearances no comeback no anything
Just the things we own that are linked to you don't disappear
The end
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>>91744157
She ate, saw some Capybaras
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People have started to accept that Cover is getting more professional, mainstream and require harder work, which is what a typical large IPO company is and it's understandable. Anyone who quits is regarded as unable to cope with the new responsibilities
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>>91743836
fauna doesn't have friends
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>>91743444
Irrelevant side character
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>>91744157
I love Vaping! I love Steak!
I love Free-time! I love Management!
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>>91744090
You new? They don't really announce the guest. It's up to the members of they want to say it and most don't.
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>>91744197
Speaking of merch, did Fauna announce any merch rerun yet?
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>>91744358
BASED BASED BASED TOTAL SAPLING DEATH
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>>91744359
Read nigga read
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>>91743258
Which one is the bug guy Ame should be the bug guy
You know you agree
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>>91744358
Based holochad
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Nerissa karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7DJvkkRNWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7DJvkkRNWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7DJvkkRNWA
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so.. why do women want to fuck shadow?
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So, we just going to ignore the fact that Fauna said:
>The only reason we can't get Bloodborn perms is devs don't want you to see how mid Hunter is compared to the Tarnished. Who really wants to play Tails after Shadow?
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>>91744505
>rebroadcast
The future is grim
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>>91744090
Because it's management slop.
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>>91744505
The karaoke is old, but she is watching it live
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>>91744292
>Cover is getting more professional
4 days without internet for Biboo…
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>>91744562
Nerrisa is live in that stream
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>>91744562
>>91744564
Oh I didn't read the title, my bad
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>>91744038
Gura should reinvent herself as someone that fucking plays minecraft with Okayu
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I can only assume that management did end up compensating ina for the visa thing in a big way for her to be in such a good mood
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>>91744628
Japan internet is useless.
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>>91744628
I didn't know Cover owned an ISP
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>>91744292
>be a shark
>boss tries to tell you what to do
>tell him to fuck off
>do what you want
>everyone too pussy to do anything about it
>keep being a shark
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>>91744628
How is it Cover fault?
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>>91744628
Her fault.
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>>91744664
Anon she just had a month long vacation (actual) she isn't a wage slave about to die from it
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>>91744714
BAAAAAAAASED
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>>91744628
If you wanted to have an actual point you could've pointed out how the studio has no staff at 9 am on a weekday
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>>91744664
Not Fauna graduating?
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>>91743926
Fauna being a good person is not up to speculation
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Minto will reach 300k before Lemon, and is currently growing in subscribers faster than Lemon
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>>91744714
>no public stream because brand risk
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>>91744083
TL;DR:
>Successful countries are built off the back of successful institutional development, with an aim at inclusive institutions (in the sense that they are made to be operated for the benefit of the majority of the nation, with input from the majority of the nation in whatever government they operate under)
>on the other hand, failed nations (ones who have failed to grow a successful economy and cannot provide adequate living conditions) have a culture of extractive institutions, where the mechanisms of the state are explicitly used to extract the potential of the country's resources and people and pool it in the hands of the ruling dynasty/party/elite
>As for how it relates to Vtubers: Nijisanji's culture is one where everything is built, top-down, to generate profit for the company. The company prides itself in extracting value from talent and sending it on it's way to shareholders, while providing the barest level of reimbursement to the talents themselves for things like merch or events, barring the few elite members of the talent who benefit. On top of that, the fact that there was no "box" for Nijisanji talents (this is especially true in NijiEN) led to talent-created extractive institutional cultures forming, where higher level talents would not want to "give free clout" to lower level talents, leading to hostile work environments (which resulted in both Selen's termination and harassment on the EN side, and Salome's complete isolation in the JP side with Niji top talent REFUSING to collab with her or develop a box due to being seen as "someone who didn't earn it")
>Hololive, on the other hand, was/is a company that built itself up largely with talent effort, where management originally let them do what they want, but didn't help all that much either, and thus led to a development of inclusive institutions where the girls themselves set norms and incentive structures, notably the "we're all in this together" mentality that has allowed for a culture of free collaboration and a singular "Hololive community," where being a fan of one girl is typically a gateway to becoming a DD. This has built itself up over the years, to the point where it's now seen as standard practice, even though it was never management mandated. On the management side, it also led to talent-driven reimbursement strategies, which creates a positive feedback loop where girls are incentivized to put themselves into the work even more deeply with the potential for an ever-increasing successful payout if it is successful (in theory, this is how it goes when things work out for the best)
Sorry that the cliff notes were so long
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>>91744918
fuck off leech
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>>91744903
>Fauna being a good person is not up to speculation
>he clearly oblivious about Sio fat ass
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>>91744664
LMAOOOOOOO
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>>91744918
>A channel that is still inactive, who's owner is literally using another one, is growing slower than a channel that is active
?
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>>91744369
Not yet. If it goes like Ame's did, it won't be until the very end.
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pretty strong numbers for a rebroadcast
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'member when bae was having a nervous breakdown over her 3d debut and how she said fauna approached her and gave her comforting, even if simple, words about it
I 'member
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>>91745001
>inactive
yet somehow got 150k subs in a single day
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>>91744664
I can only assume they were footing the bill for her stay in Japan for all that time, since it's their fault
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>>91743816
She very obviously changed after shondo doxed her last year
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>>91745073
the girl is obviously more talented than mint
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>>91744664
Maybe she really is just happy she's back home?
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>>91745046
Yea, the sister is a bombshell. They call her the slurp and burp gal in college. Too bad she's taken.
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>>91745082
Ina said they wouldn't
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>>91745064
How the fuck do you think Fauna approached her at 7pm jst inbetween cooking and pressing go live what the hell is this make believe
Are you thinking of the bungie jump discord or something
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>>91744664
How would you feel if you are finally out of prison?
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* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *
>12/17 TALLY:
24,065: Fauna (Hololive) | Minecraft
14,384: Bijou (Hololive) | Dark Souls
13,560: Mori (Hololive) | Path of Exile 2
8,870: Baelz (Hololive) | Just Chatting


>EN GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 2024
1) Fauna (Hololive) - 117,359 - Important announcement (the serious kind)
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 28,655 - Skyrim
3) IRyS (Hololive) - 13,145 - Alien Isolation
4) Raora (Hololive) - 14,768 - Poppy Playtime 2 w/ Gigi
5) Fauna (Hololive) - 18,712 - LA Noire
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 17,556 - Family Feud
7) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,478 - Path of Exile 2
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,671 - Pikmin 2
9) Raora (Hololive) - 18,026 - Clubhouse Games w/ Nerissa
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 27,510 - Minecraft
11) Mori (Hololive) - 13,493 - Path of Exile 2
12) Baelz (Hololive) - 19,474 - 1M Subs Endurance Karaoke
13) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,742 - Silent Hill 2 w/ Gigi
14) Fauna (Hololive) - 19,049 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Hololive English (Hololive) - 50,673 - The Broken Promise
16) Bijou (Hololive) - 19,058 - Hitman w/ Fauna
17) Fauna (Hololive) - 24,065 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
9x: Fauna
2x: Bijou, Raora
1x: Baelz, Hololive English, IRyS, Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
51p: Fauna
22p: Bijou
16p: Mori
14p: Raora
12p: Baelz
9p: Gigi
8p: IRyS
6p: Elizabeth
5p: Hololive English
4p: Kiara
3p: Cecilia
1p: Dooby, Filian, Kronii
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>>91741900
about 2.5k watching

what is this anyway
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>>91744889
Cue japan doesn't exist before 10am stories
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>>91745295
She should be allowed to shoot a random manager, then (Sorry Henma but it's probably you)
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Nerissa such a needy bitch holy fuck......... i love it.
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https://x.com/googlejapan/status/1868989522760921179
Suityan
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>>91745359
Looking at it, it would appear to be larping
Like literally just larping out something live
...good for them I guess
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>>91744654
Gura is the most menhera girl in the company, maybe she should reinvent herself out of her issues.
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Listen I'm not gonna lie I need rock pussy
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>>91745301
https://youtu.be/9y41X9NPfTU?t=6167
Retard
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PADORU PADORU
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>>91744947
>The company prides itself in extracting value from talent and sending it on it's way to shareholders
Which is ironic because their thinking is so short-sighted it interferes with their profit seeking attempts.

Case 1:
>depriving Pomu of basic adjustments to her 3D model to pinch pennies
>she graduates and you lose access to the $100's of thousands per year
Was it worth it?

Case 2:
>cutting the talents out of the majority of the merch earnings since they didn't "contribute"
>but then giving them expensive 3D events they could never afford if they were a standalone branch
In one instance they pretend to be an ultra efficient, hyper capitalist machine that will count every nickle. But they're fine with pissing away money on expensive projects and 3Ds they could never afford on their own?

Case 3:
>keeping Elira employed
NijiEN used to make $20 million a quarter, now it makes $5 million a quarter. This is largely due to the massive reputation damage caused by Elira. The pricetag to fix Elira's reputation is probably in the $100's of millions, if not higher. Rather than taking the easy road and cutting loose the problem, they instead ram their head into a wall again and again trying to promote Elira to the masses. They are wasting $10's of millions in opportunity cost just to keep her employed.
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Wait wtf there literally wouldn't have been any streams tonight if it wasn't for ina, where is everyone?
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>>91744918
What is your agenda, they're going to collab all the time, Fauna pretty much killed all her other indie friendships, it's going to be Lemon/Mint/Doki/Dooby all the time now
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>>91745482
one of their girls were on hiatus for months because of family reasons
this is her return stream, lore wise she spent the last few months being kept prisoner, and they're freeing her
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>>91745660
Oh, that's what it is? Okay, that's nice of them, I guess.
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>>91745449
What is this cringe anime nonsense, this si not 2024 Suisei
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Are we back en bros?
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>>91744947
Oh, yeah, that tracks, especially with the "everyone gets a pov so we don't have to decide how to split the money from collabs" practice that nijisanji en is so well known for
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>>91745643
Nerissa's is actually commenting on her rebroadcast at least while she eats. She giving us some mukbang awhile complaining that everyone likes aradia more. Its she depressed eating, its fucking hot.
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>>91744918
That was pretty obvious once it started slowing down from the initial burst. That channel probably isn't going to have any more activity for close to a month still
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>>91745706
Uh oh melty
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>>91745449
It never ceases to amuse me how Google/Youtube Japan love hololive so much while HQ does everything to fuck them up
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>>91740412
Idol was purchased by Brave. Getting acquired is the opposite of failure
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>>91745950
Uh oh eurotard melty
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Get that lazy shark out of hololive
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>>91740178
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>>91745981
EN would be stronger without lazy shitters.
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>>91745880
>Google/Youtube Japan love hololive so much
>flowglow & past holos massive cull and holo lack of visibility in YT trending or algo
Imagine saying shit out his ass like that, isn't he embarrassed??
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>>91745950
We only hate Updatilia and Cheebs here
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>>91746042
Updatilia is better than Cecilia who's too lazy and pawns off her work to updatilia
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>>91746042
>We only hate Updatilia and Cheebs here
LOUDERR
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>>91746042
well fuck you and you next 9 generations
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>>91745574
Oh hey thanks for posting this. I Remember it, nice to be reminded
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>>91746096
>Which is a good thing >they< Fauna
Dopamine when shitposting is really messing with your brain huh?
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Gyatt
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>>91746083
Acting like Updatilia isn't the laziest bitch in this world is laughable, whore won't even come on stream and still tries lapping up all the attention
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>>91745348
Let's aim for a full month of HoloEN golds.
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>>91744292
>Cover is getting more professional
Imagine starting to get more "professional" after all these years. That's beyond grim. A more accurate thing to say is that they are the exact same fumbling and tumbling company they were years ago, but they are PRETENDING to be more professional because they now have a bunch of faceless investors to please.
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>>91746042
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>>91746042
Who would you rather fuck?
>Updatilia but every time you fuck her she puts Prey on CC's schedule again
or
>Cheebs but every time you fuck her IRyS does a splatoon stream at 3 AM US time
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>Tummy hort
>cold chicken
>holo en
agree?
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>>91746033
You could at least bother to finish the sentence before furiously typing
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>>91746288
How would Niji win a day? One POV Japanese tournament on Meroco's channel? Surprise graduation?
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>>91745701
It was assumed she'd come back, no
She didn't return. she's still stuck in hiatus
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>>91746168
Jokes on you, you just confirmed I will have nine generations of descendants with your curse
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>>91746288
When is the last time they didn't win gold?
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>>91746345
This is both shit and I'd fuck neither
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I love fauna
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>>91746577
Why would Vegans drink milk.
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>>91746577
based
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>>91746488
oh yeah?
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>>91746658
Delete this, this instant.
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>>91746483
>>90533601
dooby family stream last month, before that a couple NijiEN karaoke offcollabs that got JP viewers, Mint 3.0 debut
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>>91746345
Mori
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>>91746737
For Mori you have to fuck weird cat
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>>91746577
No one asked or cares fuck off with your indie whore
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cucked
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>>91746767
>t.Mint/Shondo/Jelly/whatever literal who that constantly avatarpost here.
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>>91746390'
bots
niji's resorting to twitter bots on their recent official twitter account posts now, I wouldn't rule out yt bots from them or the local schizo
but then again the twitter stuff is for their JP audience so they want attention there, nijiEN's already been in the dumps for nearly a year at this point and anycolor doesn't give a shit lmao
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>>91744947
I don't think see Hololive as liberal as nijisanji. Hololive isn't an all ideas are implemented sort of structure, they share a common established ground with common boundary and limit upon which the individual members conduct themselves. They share a common rule of courtesy, lower male collab and avoidance to risky outside connection. A truly liberal structure always runs the risk of dangerous ideas taking hold. Hololive doesn't let its talent do whatever they want, they have set rules and an established culture for each member to follow.

In fact, I'd say it's because of the unchecked freedom of the talents that Nijisanji has failed to establish a consistent brand image. For example, male collabs and the intrusion of what is advertised as a girl-only stream are much to the detriment of the fans.
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I thought it was a rebroadcast? wtf is nerissa doing
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>>91746632
nothing wrong with a vegan drinking their own milk
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>>91745917
no, it failed
they collected the best available girls and lost half of them to mismanagement
they sold because they ran out of money
bigger "fumble" than nijien
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>>91741421
I remember reading this maybe a decade ago and not being entirely convinced by their methods and reasoning. It's a good effort but the limited viewpoint leaves me wanting a more comprehensive study/analysis.
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If you look at nijiEN, the male members seem to have the same success as the Phase girls
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https://youtu.be/Cs33S-Z6H14
https://youtu.be/Cs33S-Z6H14
https://youtu.be/Cs33S-Z6H14
STREAM MASS DESTRUCTION
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Do you like past or current Nerissa more?
>Aradia
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>A past raid
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Wait Suisei won another award?
https://x.com/amazonmusicjp/status/1868853676921831501
https://x.com/amazonmusicjp/status/1868853676921831501
https://x.com/amazonmusicjp/status/1868853676921831501
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EN NA streaming hour is looking grim. 2022 is back?
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>>91745998
Blowing raspberries on Jelly's belly while she covers her face with a large Momonga plushie.
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>>91746867
I mean he's had a whole year to bot Niji and he's done it all of....3 times ever. Scarle and Aia's costumes and Alban on an emergency to try (unsuccessfully) to beat IRyS 1M karaoke. he also botted two of Armis debuts for some reason.
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>>91747114
yeah, but this time we will not have a Fauna to save us
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>>91746759
And this is a problem how?
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INA'S BACK
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
SHE'S BACK
OH THANK GOD
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>Takodachi
>Sapling
>Pebble
>Grem
Time is a flat circle.
Whatever happened will happen again.
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>>91747357
holy sex
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>>91746345
Updatilia
Also mimic Ceci is nice so it's a win-win
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JWU qrd on the yab
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sbDC2cKRpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sbDC2cKRpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sbDC2cKRpI
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>>91747513
Ina sided against Fauna too
So far it's just Fauna and Gura against the rest of the company
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>>91747416
>ina is black
grim
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>>91747607
Lazy shitters together.
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>>91747580
Holy sex
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>>91746929
In terms of economic structure, Hololive is closer to state-controlled/limited capitalism. Talent is free to develop and invest, but boundary and bottom line are set, and occasionally the state may also aid them.

Nijisanji is a complete unrestricted capitalism, where the state only cares about the result and nothing else. It's not there to make sure the talent is sustainable nor will it help or support them unless their own interests are being harmed.
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>>91747636
>>91747757
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>>91747636
This Ina look like a cunny
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>>91747772
This is a tortured analogy
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>>91746929
>it's because of the unchecked freedom of the talents that Nijisanji has failed
That falls apart when you remember they basically fired multiple people for "saying the wrong ideas."
Hell, you can consider Nijisanji to be the icon of conservative Japanese culture in many ways. They value the primacy of the patriarch over all else, and remember, they literally made a talent fucking leave the company because she said
>"I don't like Baseball very much."
Just because it is the national sport of Japan.
It's been consistent that Hololive is at least in part the more liberal, internationalist group of the two. Hololive grew by embracing international markets and following fans to where they were, whereas Nijisanji made it a point of pride that they were and will always be "Japanese focused, for our home audiences," to the point where they said things like that NijiEN was a front for Japanese people to get entertainment in the style of other countries, whereas HoloEN was exporting Hololive to THEM.
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Nerissa's thread is full of insane people I'm impressed what a couple sisters with a few months and lots of spite can do
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>>91747823
That's a man, baby
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>>91747183
Rosemi's outfit stream, too
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>>91747868
Who asked?
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>>91747920
I don't remember that, her goth-y one? Did it win gold?
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>arguments over what kind of system Hololive is
They literally named their first EN concert after globalism and then hired a fucking German, and most important of all, they literally hired fucking WATAME, they're clearly aligned with the United Nations
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>>91747890
Go back
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>>91747883
I'm sad, cunny are male now...
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>>91747982
Her Devil Jin looking outfit
For seemingly no reason, too, Fauna and IRyS were both not streaming
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>>91747991
A friend of mine is a Watameito who works in the International Court of Justice
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hololive won
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>>91747991
Who even started this rumor that Watame is involved with the United Nations anyways
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>>91748011
A truly sad state of affairs.
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>>91747729
Ina and ?
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>>91748142
>rumor
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>>91748142
Eh, I assume it's just the natural evolution of watamage.
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>>91747607
Ina is a spineless bitch who bows down to Kiara, she doesn't have her own thoughts



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