>Free chart makers:https://www.astro.com/horoscopehttps://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/birth-chart-horoscope-online>Additional Resources:https://astro.comhttps://astrologyking.com/ - aspectshttps://www.skyscript.co.uk/ - general"The Virgo figure in this Book of Hours is depicted as a winged maiden. The flowers in her right hand symbolize a Virgo’s dominating earthly qualities, whereas the rod in the left hand symbolizes their intuition and service."
>>39524736>serviceIs Virgo the ultimate wagie sign?
>>39504333Another thing, Will I ever stop feeling lonely, like nobody really knows me?
Got a big conversation with an ex today. Noticed there's a sag moon-aquarius venus sextile happening at the same time. My moon and venus are the same and she's a sag sun/rising. Is this portentous for getting back together?
Can I get a reading on this relationship?
need a read, what awaits me? fortune could be leo tho
Am I astrologically cursed or blessed?
anyone here know draconic astrology? if yes, then you know, it's when basically shifting your whole chart where north node is 0 degree aries, it's sometimes said, what your soul/inner self/higher self wants. then in that case, what would shifting chart to 0 degree south node would show?
What can you tell about me? What will my relations with people look like this next year?
So is this a W for Virgos or is it some shit to do with transits like some anons said in the previous thread?
>>39526214>>39526214It has to do with mercury placements. Notice how they mention July as well, which is where Leo is. Mercury can wind up in Virgo.Also note worth is that February gets singled out. I would say that it's march they're gunning for, which is when Pisces is.Mercury has it's domicile AND exaltation in Virgo, which means it has it's exile and fall in Pisces.>What does this meanMercury determines the active part of your brain and how you learn, speak and talk. So, yeah. On average people born in september are more likely to be intelligent. You're also less likely to get bitches, since venus has a similar thing going on with the sun and can only ever be 2 degrees away from the sun. So your options are: Cancer, Leo, Virgo (bad), Libra (Good), and Scorpio (VERY bad)The placement is dependent on how far ahead or behind venus is and the day born.Both of these placements are also dependent on neither being in retrograde.
>>39526479*Speak and write
>>39526479Oh my bad. I think they were also getting at GEMINI mercury with July, Gemini is also a mercury ruled sign.
I don't know absolutely nothing about astrology, but want to learn for analytical psychology related reasons. Is picrel a good book to start?
>>39526524It's the best place to start, but it'll tell you that you can't really use astrology for psychology since that's not what hellenistic astrologers used it for. I'm a little bit in the middle of thinking that it affects personality if only because it effects the challenges and environment of the person. It will teach you a lot of sick techniques that will help you find things out about the native and their life that retards in neo astrology don't know shit about, such as why the houses aren't related to the zodiac signs, how they get their meanings, and how they may unfold in the native's life.At multiple points in the book the kennedy family will be brought up to show that JFK dying was in basically everyone related to him's chart. Of course this is to show off new techniques and how they affect planets :)
What do I need to know? Willing and able to give feedback
>>39526568Fantastic, anon. Will start studying it then, thank you!
>>39525686Cursed.>Ruler of the 8th in the 7th house conjunct to descendant>3 planets in the 8th>1st house ruler in the 8th>MARS RETROGRADE IN IT'S EXILE IN THE FIRST DURING A DAY CHARTSuicide is in your future. Likely murder suicide.
Never going to stop talking about this. What type of herd mentality retardation is this? Like why are there SO many of this exact type of person that makes up weird lies like this lmfao. Nobody EVER said that to you. Like how do so many people post shit like this nearly verbatim,
how do siderealkeks explain why sun is exalted in leo
>>39525231No. No astrological transit means that you will get back together. You could be going through an extremely detrimental transit and still decide to get back together. Your external decisions are exactly that and no planet can dictate otherwise. All this can tell you is the overall energy of the moment. Your life is in your own hands.>>39525380What about it? Just know that people can have a horrible synastry makeup and stay together forever, or vice versa a really amazing synastry makeup and still not work out or not get along.You’ll need to be more specific when asking about synastry. For example, if you fight a lot you would ask how to communicate with each other better. Or, if you’re having a rough patch with your sex life, how to engage them sexually in a way that works for them. What to get them for their birthday. How to make them happy, things like that. But just asking a vague “read for this relationship” isn’t going to do anything for you.That being said, you also need the exact birth time for both of you, because this chart is suggesting that you both were born at the exact same time which is extremely unlikely.Postive aspects that you have that you could look into. >moon conjunct moon>sun conjunct jupiter negative aspects>mars trine moon>mars opposite pluto>saturn square sun>venus square sunetc
>>39526609it's not herd mentality, that anon actually had tons of typical serial killer placements
How does my bro's chart look in terms of fortune? Good or not good at all?
>>39526479Astrological dignities are not real. This is a tool that people constantly use to try to show boat how informed they are.You cannot give a real world example of how a weak planet behaves versus a strong planet. The planetary rulerships remain the same regardless of whether or not you want to slap "strong" or "weak" on to it.Mars will behave the way Mars behaves, in any sign. Mars does not suddenly disappear because you claim it is weak in a sign. The rulerships remain the same. Please give a real world example of a weak planet versus a strong planet. You never see any further analysis after people spew out these buzzwords. There is no legitimate function or use for an astrological dignity. Every planet has its rulerships, every sign has its rulerships, you blend those energies together to figure out the manifestation of the planet. Claiming a planet is weak in a sign means nothing. It still will manifest exactly the same.
>>39526637Damn, not even four comments later, another astrological dignity comment. I'm just confused about why some people are so fixated on these. The Sun manifests in Leo the same way it would manifest in any other sign, it manifests as THE SUN. You can call it weak or strong all you want, it does not change the rulership of the planet.I genuinely do not see any purpose for bringing up astrological dignities other than to just use buzzwords to make it seem like you know what you're talking about. There is never any further elaboration, especially to someone who knows nothing about astrology, and even to those who DO know what they're talking about. It's nothing but buzzwords. Just like "cazimi", cazimi means nothing more than conjunction to the sun, but but but but its as close to the sun as it can get! Okay? And? Explain the difference between a conjunction to the sun versus a cazimi? You can't. Because there is no difference.Just like astrological dignities. You cannot explain HOW or WHY or the DIFFERENCE between a "strong" sun placement versus a "weak" sun placement. The Sun still rules your ego and sense of self and outward personality. This does not change just because you claim the Sun is weak in x sign. It still manifests with the same rulerships. So tired of the bullshit man. Astrology is so complex, there is absolutely no need for the excess labels and buzzwords. Apply the same shit to stelliums too, there is no reason there should be a label for 3 planets not aspecting eachother whatsoever. It should be 3+ planets within conjunction.Some things in this field are 100% pointless in practice. And apply too much focus to these things only muddies the water, helps no one, changes nothing, etcSorry for the rant I'm just so exhausted of seeing people bring up dignities for absolutely no reason.Plus if anyone is actually using pajeet astrology, theres their first problem.
>>39526599How bad is the mars retrograde exactly?You think I can counter-act the negatives with talismans?
>>39526671No they do not. Serial killers have many, many varying astrological placements. I spent several years studying the charts of serial killers, their transits for killing/being arrested/family history, etc. There is no uniform pattern in their placements. It depends more on what they've been through and their types of crimes to find any sort of pattern. For example, the troubled childhood, will have troubled childhood placements, that doesn't mean that someone is a serial killer.Second of all, it is herd mentality, because this is one of the most common statements I've seen over the years. Some version of "somebody told me my chart is so scary and i'm like a serial killer, is that true" "someone said my chart is the scariest chart they've ever seen" When in reality, no one has ever told them that, they just WANT to be told that they're ~like super demented and mysterious~Go type "serial killer" into any astrology reddit forum and you'll see hundreds if not thousands of people asking this exact question.
>>39526686Huh? What do you mean by fortune? Can you ask something specific? This doesn't really make any sense and is incredibly vague. >>39526914Talismans are not real. If you want to change your reality then you need to make a real effort to change your life. Laying in bed holding on to a locket is not going to change your reality. Thinking really hard is not going to change your reality. And ironically that is one of the issues with a retrograde Mars, it lacks initiative, it's harder for people with this placement to take action in their life, to get started, they tend to be lazier and unmotivated. Not always. But the fact that you asked about talismans in a serious matter is ironic given that you do have a retrograde Mars.
>>39526935I mean’t arabic Talismans/ enchantments like in the book of the wise, I used them before for speechcraft and it worked. My thinking was can I make a master deck of trinkets to counter-act each seperate one.
>>39526935My bad. Basically what I meant was does this resemble the chart of someone that ends up in a depressive spiral and takes their own life or does it resemble someone moreso that can pull themselves up and thrive from a health perspective?
>>39526935But seriously how do I change my reality, I do genuinely feel a lot of what you said in my own life, I always feels like there is a push down this specific path and anything too good or too bad feels like a deviation, like I’m not suppose to be there.
>>39526898>>39526866>I don't see any pointThen educate yourself. It's not my job to explain to you how the quality of a planet affects it's performance. It's a stupid insinuation that it doesn't. I never used the word Cazimi, but it's common knowledge that the tighter the conjunction the more powerful the connection will be. It works the same for all aspects.>You can not give a real world example of how a weak planet behaves versus a strong planetActually I can. I've met plenty of people with their mars or venus in the sign of it's fall. Planets are indicative of the things you attract into your life. If you have a struggle in life, is it not be straightforward?>Mars in Taurus>Placed in 5th house>Opposition to Jupiter in Scorpio in the 11th>Native received hostility in their life whenever they had some kind of personal fortune from people that should have been caring and nurturing for them. Sometimes from lovers.>Mars ruled over the 4th house, so their upbringing was and still is abusive.>Scorpio Venus>Venusian activities have a mars-like energy to them>Love is war, creative endeavors may struggle or have a unique kind of flair that doesn't work all that well with what is generally considered Venus.You're also using the term "Essential dignities" wrong. I didn't use terms, triplicity, or decans. I don't use that shit. Essential dignities are used to score planets. I'm using domicile/exile and exaltation/fall, which are very straightforward and are the easiest things to observe by simply reading charts.>The Sun will operate the same in LeoYes, but it will operate better. When a planet is in a sign it rules it doesn't have to rely on another planet. I don't understand how this doesn't click for you. Like yeah, I can technically go over to my neighbors to cook food if they're hospitable enough, but it's better to just do it at home if I can help it. It's like having someone standing over your shoulder telling you how u can or can't do something.
>>39526947sigh..................ok man
>>39526995No worries. I can take a look at it if you want to repost it. I just get over the whole serial killer reference because of how common it is. >>39527004Which chart is yours again?
>>39526898>I'm just tired of seeing people bring up dignities for no reasonUhh, anon, did you even read my post? My post was about how MERCURY is more likely to be in it's DOMICILE during certain dates. A user was asking about a study about certain dates which roughly line up with VIRGO, PISCES and GEMINI. I explained to him why the study might have gotten those results. Me bringing up exaltation and domicile here isn't pointless since Virgo and Gemini are MERCURIAL SIGNS which means they generally exhibit these attributes in general. You can have your sun in Gemini and be a total fucking nerd, but mercury being there is even better, and in fact it's preferred.>The sun rules over...More than you just listed. We can use it's status to determine the father's role in the native's life. Of course, more than just the sign matters here, but it all adds up anon. I recommend that you read a book on hellenistic astrology and see that astrology is even more complicated than you think it is.Also>Stelliums don't matterActually they do. Idk if I give a shit about the definition of Stellium, but planets being in the same sign means that they're aware of the other's presence. It's similar to witnessing, but like being in the same building instead of looking across the street.Have you read a Hellenistic book before, or are you trolling?
>>39524736What do you think, chart anons?
>>39527110I'm highly educated and experienced in astrology. The fact that you even said this>You're also using the term "Essential dignities" wrong. I didn't use terms, triplicity, or decans. I don't use that shit. Essential dignities are used to score planets. I'm using domicile/exile and exaltation/fall, which are very straightforward and are the easiest things to observe by simply reading charts.Is hilarious. Domicile/exile, etc, ARE essential dignities??? How are you using dignities if you don't even know what they are? This is exactly my point. I was going to end the conversation there, since you outed yourself as having no idea what you're talking about. But I'll engage.The placements you described, first of all, are manifesting exactly as they should. A Mars ruled 4th house is going to be hostile. This has nothing to do with dignities. Neither does Mars opposite Jupiter. You're still not accurately applying dignities, because again, not only do they serve no purpose, but you can't give an actual example of a strong versus weak planet, you're now bringing in aspects. Aspects are what determine external influence of the power of a planet. You contradicted yourself again with Venus. Just like I said, you apply Scorpio rulerships to Venus. This STILL has nothing to do with dignities or the strength of a planet. You're describing rulerships. "The Sun will operate.........better"LOL what? The Sun's rulerships will remain the same regardless of the sign it is in. It is still your ego and sense of self. It is not stronger or weaker in any sign. The rulerships remain the same.You typed all of this and gave multiple examples without any mention of the dignity. Because, once again, dignities are not real, they are an unnecessary label that dictates nothing.
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are there any important uranus aspects coming up in the next 10 years specifically for the uranus in aquarius generation
I read in a book that my first house saturn makes it so I have quite low self confidence, will struggle to assert myself etc. I'm often really pissed off with people but can never really verbalise it or assert myself, like an aries would. There's also the thing of every book I seem to pick up paints pisces as artsy crybaby losers, I don't like that. So, not to be that guy, but is my chart doomed? I have big ambitions and I need to meet them. Any general advice is appreciated too, cheers.
>>39527297Pisces gets a lot of hate, and any water sign is automatically deemed overly emotion. This is basically magazine tier pop astrology. Pisces are empathetic, but can only resonate in relation to themselves. Some people are able to sympathize with others and truly understand their suffering even if they've never been in a similar situation. Pisces on the other hand, will first think of themselves like a Leo would, they will respond by their biggest suffering point rather than just try to relate to the other person. This is because Pisces is the ruler of the 12th house, the 12th house is your subconscious mind -- similar to the first house in the sense that who you are MENTALLY is the 12th hosue and who you are PHYSICALLY is the 1st house. The 12th is your inner personality, and the 1st is your outer personality. The general descriptors of Pisces are almost always off base. A lot of factors go into how a pisces sun will manifest. For example, a Pisces Sun with a Sagittarius Moon, will never display those woe is me attitude, are generally positive people, and in their adulthood are way more outgoing and happy than in adolescents.As far as not relating to some of your other placements, its probably because you're using whole signs. Use placidus instead and maybe they will make more sense. For example, this would put your Saturn in your 12th house, which is an entirely different experience than a 1st house saturn. You're very young. Astrology will not prevent you from acheieving your dreams. You can do absolutely anything that you want to do. Your chart doesn't doom you to anything, its a layout of your life and how you naturally act, that doesn't mean you can't take control of your life.
>>39527270What do you mean? Will your natal Uranus experience any important aspects in the next 10 years? Thats a long time. Many planets are going to come and go throughout every year, making plenty of conjunctions, squares, oppositions, etc. Thats a very long time.
>>39527179The Cursed one
>>39527388Thanks for the reply. The part about the saturn inhibition was me saying I get it, I definitely think I have a first house saturn, and I want to overcome it. I've read I have a cardinal grand cross, and my chart is a bucket shape (no idea if the bucket thing is relevant.) with saturn as the handle, so I imagine I need to tap in to saturn to get a grip on things. Y'know, get over the inhibition, become more self assertive, that type of shit. Am I right or wrong? I need a second opinion, please. Again, thank you.
>>39527202I was using your comment to rant about dignities. I never said anything about the father but since you bring it up, no the Sun doesn't rule the father. This is a common misconception because the Moon rules the mother. The father is often manifested as Saturn, sometimes even Neptune. Also, no I'm not going to read a hellenestic book because I do not use hellenistic astrology and never will. Also, most of your experience should come through practice rather than reading a book. You can't blindly trust what these authors say, you have to go out in the real world and test their theories for truth. Whether it be public forums, personal research on "celebrities", friends, discord, reddit, whatever, events, history, etc since of course astrology is more than just personal charts. But, whatever it takes to actually use astrology in practice. Because you'll find that a lot of the time, these out dated books and authors get a lot of things wrong, and you have to also consider that the older the book is, the fewer people they had to test their theories on, further showing that they get a long of things wrong or misconstrued. We are blessed to live in a time period where we have access to so much information and can test whether certain theories or "Facts" are actually true and hold strong. I'm not saying that reading books on astrology is useful, before anyone tries to twist what I'm saying into that direction. But you can't treat astrology books like the bible, you have to use astrology in practice, and in turn will find your own tips&tricks of the trade. As far as stelliums go, planets are not aware of eachother or anything at all. I know you said you dont care about the definition but it should only have a label if the planets are actually influencing eachother ie a conjunction of several planets, therefore making it a centered energy. 3+ planets that are 10+ degrees away from eachother aren't influencing eachother at all. It's just another meaningless label.
>>39527447My advice is still try placidus, read into your placidus chart and things should be a little more clear for you. Also, there seems to be a trend with websites where they don't offer advice or how to mitigate placements. I'm still a little unsure of what you're asking.
Alright, so which settings give the most accuracy: Tropical or Sidereal? And which house system: Whole Signs or Placidus?
>>39527496>I'm not saying that reading books on astrology is useful, before anyone tries to twist what I'm saying into that directionMeant to say ISN'T* useful, not is. My bad.
>>39527508I've got a cardinal grand cross (pulled in a few directions), but saturn conjuncts my ascendant and is in the 1st house. Since my chart is a bucket shape and I have read you need to use the energy of the handle (in my case, saturn) to balance the rest out, do I need to try and become more saturnian to get a grip on my life? By get a grip, I mean get over the inhibition, the low self confidence, inability to assert myself etc.I've been trying to tap more into martian energy in an attempt to get a grip, but I don't think its going well. Sorry if I'm still not making sense.
>>39527526Tropical is based on "seasons", 30 degree zodiac. Sidereal is based on the actual placement of the constellations. Technically, sidereal is more "accurate" in the sense that that is physical reality. But sidereal definitely isn't the more accurate system of the two.Whole Signs and Placidus are both valid. But Placidus is more specific than Whole Signs. Whole Signs groups people into categories, meaning, every rising sign has the exact same house set up as the other person with that rising sign. This is categorically false because not every Cancer Rising is going to have the same family dynamics, therefore their 4th house shouldn't be ruled by the same sign for everyone. Apply this to any rising sign. It means every house shares the same ruler for every person, and thats not how humans work, humans are vastly different and individualistic. Placidus opens the door for different sized houses, in different decans, with different ruled houses for each person, making the chart that much more individualistic and catering to the native. There are many different examples of how Whole Signs is too generalized, like this. But I'll just use this one to save character space.The only time that I would suggest someone use Whole Signs for a birth chart is if they are born very far north or south, as it makes some of their houses either very small or very large and offsets the chart, just because of the long/lat that they were born.
solar return chart coming up. how cooked am I? those 8th house placements freaking me out desu
>>39527526>Whole Signs or Placidus?equal houses
>>39527543I'm gonna be real with you friend, in all my years of studying astrology I have never once heard of "bucket shaped" and this is one of those instances where people want to feel special so they start making things up and it spreads like wild fire. I've seen "thors hammer" and "the babys cradle" and all kinds of odd versions of this, basically implying that there is a pattern or shape that makes the chart special. None of these matter. The only patterns you should be using are yods, grand trines, etc. You can "tap into" whatever planet you want but it's all subjective. If you want to be more mature, practice making better decisions and cutting out unnecessary things from your life. If you want to be more confidence, there are a million ways to do this, take better care of your physical and mental health by eating better and working out, microdose rejection by asking out many people or having many conversations to make you better prepared for social rejection and better at communicating, etc. Theres no real connection to astrology in this sense. You're very young so I'm sure saying "tapping into" makes sense, but theres no real utility of such a statement. But if you want to be specific, you have an Aries Mercury, to be better at communication you need to say less, be more direct, only say what you mean, maybe a little dry, instead of all over the place. Aries rules courage and confidence, to embody this you do the things I mentioned and you'll come off more courageous, more determined and more serious in the way that you speak rather than jumbled or unsure of yourself. Never double down, never back track, THINK before you speak.Your Sun is in Pisces, in the 9th. For more confidence you lean into these rulerships. Being smarter, well read, speaking many languages, being informed on lots of topics, are things that will make you feel confident, being educated will make you feel more confident.
>>39527571Wait so if sidereal is based on the actual placments why isn't it the more accurate system of the two?
>>39527617Asking for a year ahead review is something you'd need to pay an astrologer for because there are many, many, many transits that happen in one year and too many things to factor in.As well as, this is just the transit of the day of your birthday, you didn't include your birthchart, so you're making us look at one singular day of planetary placement that doesn't have anything to do with you or your personal placements. You also included a time, which is irrelevant in a solar return chart, as the solar return chart is supposed to represent the year ahead. There is nothing in the 8th house because the time doesn't matter in a situation like this.
>>39527249>They are essential dignitiesAlright, I'll bite. Whatever. I don't use the other three and I don't tally up a score either. My point in any of my posts doesn't change just because I used different terms.>A mars ruled 4th houseNot always. I neglected to mention that it's a night chart and that it's hit by Venus in a sextile as well. Mars is otherwise doing fairly well, and so is Venus since it's forming a trine with Jupiter. I don't really have any issues with my Mars, and it's ruler is in the 12th. If the signs don't matter, and the ruler of her mars is in much better condition, then how come mine is less destructive?What are you even trying to argue here? If what I described isn't dignity, then why even respond to my posts if they're just "rulership"? Lol. Was I supposed to say "Mercury is in the sign it rules over"Are you autistic?"The sun's rulership stays the same" And??? This is such a nothing statement, especially since you can't seem to explain to me why it wouldn't matter. All signs come in a pair. The sign opposite of it functions on the same axis, but at a different starting point. How is that hard for you to grasp?You seem to primarily have an issue with Exaltation and Fall here, because if I mention a planet's home you're just going to bring up that it's ruled by that planet, which is the point??? that's why it does well???? That's why I brought it up in my initial post that you responded to??????>Oh but it's just rulershipGet a grip and stop trying to pick fights over nothing.Anything I could show you has multiple indicators. Am I supposed to just say "oh, well you got me on that, it sure happens to be that there are other indicators in the chart as well xD"Every chart has multiple indicators. If you don't like that then you can suck my dick.
>>39527681ah, I guess I'll post on my birthday. I usually do natal stuff but never solar returns. thanks, though
>>39527629Hey, thanks for the advice. I get it, I feel like I'm all over the place recently, it's driving my girl up the wall. I got that stuff on the bucket shape from herehttps://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/astrology-chart-shape/bucketand in this book, https://www.amazon.com/Parkers-Astrology-Definitive-Guide-Aspect/dp/0241431824/ref=asc_df_0241431824?mcid=bb9e720e4c4b315f8c4f9a73483b21b8&hvocijid=11413106669820020649-0241431824-&hvexpln=74&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696285193871&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11413106669820020649&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007125&hvtargid=pla-2281435177418&psc=1&gad_source=1I'll take your advice and remember it well, thank you. I'm still trying to learn about astrology, guess I still have very far to go haha.
>>39527640Because through thousands of years of testing, it is more accurate in practice. The only difference is one accounts for the precession of equinox [the signs moving over time] and its not even that big of a difference in degrees. They aren't vastly different systems. However, Vedic astrology, the system that uses sidereal, is utter horse shit within itself and is mostly based on spiritual esoteric nonsense where tropical/western astrology is rooted in earth/realistic outcomes. You can use both sidereal and tropical, go load your chart into a website and look at it comparing the two systems, you'll see its only x amount of degree difference. It's VEDIC astrology that is the bullshit.
>>39527705No friend, you're completely missing the point. It has nothing to do with the fact that today is not your birthday. It's that you loaded a chart of a day in the future, without overlapping your birthchart, therefore we can't tell you anything because we have no idea what your natal placements are. You have to run a transit chart. Posting this chart on your birthday isn't going to change anything, we still won't know what your personal placements are if you don't include your birthchart.
>>39527694You can continue to list the placements in that chart, it still has nothing to do with dignities. I'm not really sure what you're not understanding. I said you're listing rulerships because thats what you are doing, it is not a fight. It's that I've asked you multiple times to include a real world example of a planet behaving weak versus strong and instead you're just listing other placements and aspects to the planet. Instead of saying HOW or WHY or WHAT a planet does when it is strong vs weak. Which is my entire point. You CAN'T do this, because dignities do not matter or effect the rulerships of a planet. Again, I'm not sure what you're having trouble understanding. The reason I replied to your post, I've said multiple times. Using dignities and rattling off dignities serves no purpose, as they have no actual purpose in astrology. Calling a planet exile in a sign, is just a buzzword. The planet can't be weak or strong, it just IS. It has rulerships, those rulerships remain the same regardless of whether or not someone says its "strong" or "weak"No, my issue isn't with exhaltion or fall, its with ALL dignities. Again, I've made that very clear. It's nothing but a buzzword.Again, no you have no given any examples of a real life manifestation of a dignity, you just start listing aspects, other placements, etc. You're not explaining how a planet behaves when it is weak. Because you can't, because its not a real thing. It's almost like a crutch that people lean on when they're trying to larp like they know what they're talking about. But when you question them about it, this is what happens.
>>39527496>The father is manifested as Saturnt. never read a chart in his lifeThe sun is always relevant to the father, I've found. If you find it in the 6th, 8th or 12th it's usually indicative of someone having a bad or absent father.>You should read chartsI have. Many of them. It's what convinced me to start reading books. I've found many of the older techniques to be accurate.>I'm not going to read a hellenistic bookOkay, so the thing that tells you all about how and why exaltation, fall domicile and exile all matter aren't being read. Don't talk to me about astrology again then because you're basically trying to have an argument with me about a method of reading that you don't understand. I study Hellenistic astrology. Am I the best? No, but everything I've utilized thus far has been accurate, and the fact you're using NEPTUNE for the father tells me everything I need to know about your efficacy as an astrologer.I mean>NeptuneYou mean the planet that moves a sign basically once a decade? The one that isn't even visible to the naked eye? Fuck off.
Any advice on how to overcome my mental health issues? Or will I be stuck with them forever with this cursed chart and my perpetual bad luck?
>>39527728Thanks anon! One last question: If I have the birth time of a woman I'm interested in hooking up with, what placements should I look at in her chart?
>>39527745I meant that I probably won't post transit/solar return one until it's on my birthday, just because. I understood what you meant but I just didn't want to continue on after making a mistake
>>39527776Last post I'm making because you're genuinely retarded. If you want some real world examples then read a hellenistic book. I recommend this one :)>>39526524He'll go over all kinds of real life examples for you.My examples are all individual because I've read for friends and random people online.>You're not explaining how a planet behaves when it's weakExcept I did? I literally explained how a well dignified (if we exclude the sign) mars still managed to be really malefic. It's a night chart so mars has less sway and it's being ruled over by the primary benefic and hit by a sextile. Idk nigger my malefic planets are operating kind of decently, but my Saturn is kind of a pseudo benefic. There have been a lot of restrictions in my life, but it's essentially defined me as a person, and it's why I appreciate the things that I do. It's why I strive to be better. It doesn't really interact with the other planets in my chart by aspect, but it is in it's own sign and it's conjunct to my midheaven which increases it's influence. You'll argue that this is just rulership, and that's because rulership is just a part of essential dignity in the same way that exaltation/exile/fall are, which is why it's so confusing for me to understand what your fucking point is.
>>39527790lol what? Saturn definitely represents the father in a birth chart. To say it doesn’t is only further proving how misinformed you are. I mean, one of the most common manifestations of Saturn in the 10th house is quite literally an authoritarian father, a father that holds a position of power in their career like a police officer or in the military, etc, a strict father, and so on. You keep making very bold statements and being blatantly wrong. Just because you’re mad about essential dignities doesn’t mean you need to show your ass like this and make other ridiculous claims that are false. Each chart is individualistic, the father can show up in various forms, to say Saturn doesn’t but the Sun does is just hilarious. It shows that you have surface level knowledge, to automatically assume that because the Moon definitively rules the mother that the Sun is automatically the father. I can understand WHY you would think that, but it’s just not true. Even Saturns rulerships in general represent your male elders, where as the Sun represents YOU, yourself. This is just comical at this point.And yes, Neptune can represent the father, it doesn’t matter how slow it moves because house placements have nothing to do with the orbit speed of a planet. Do you even hear yourself right now? You keep digging this hole proving you have no idea what you’re talking about.You claim to read hellenistic books but you didn’t even know what essential dignities were, but still having the audacity to use them. You literally said “nooo i’m using domicile and exile i’m not using dignities!!” when those are quite literally dignities…..You very obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. You still can’t explain the difference between a strong or weak planet, ie — dignities, because you don’t understand them even at a base level.
>>39527813For what? To learn about her, all of her placements matter. To seduce her, look to her venus and mars and appeal to that. For gift giving and conversation starters look to her 2nd, 5th, 9th and 12th houses.>>39527818Everyone makes mistakes, don’t be ashamed or embarrassed.
>>39527873I am NOT reading a Chris Brennan book my lord lmao. And no, you did not explain the difference between a strong versus weak planet. You are rattling off aspects. How many times do I have to say this. If you cannot explain it then admit that to yourself. Talking about how other planets are influencing in aspect to another planet, has absolutely nothing to do with dignities!!! If you cannot address the planet as is without external influence and explain how it would behave “strong” or “weak” then you do not know what you’re talking about, simple as. You are literally doing the opposite of explaining this by saying well Mars is being influenced by Jupiter so that makes it good/bad! No! Tell us how Mars manifests as strong or weak on its own since all you need for a dignity is the sign it’s in, but you can’t! And it’s not just (You) who can’t, it’s ANYONE, because dignities are not an actual signifier of anything at all and are merely buzzwords.Chris Brennan is nothing but a historian. He will yap all day long about aspects, conditions, how to read a birth chart, but he doesn’t make accurate predictions, or give any real interpretation.He will tell you mars is in fall in the 4th house in opposition to jupiter but won’t tell you WHAT that means or HOW it manifests in REAL LIFE. That’s his whole shtick. There is absolutely no point in using astrology if all you’re going to do is rattle off planetary gps directions but not the destination. It’s like trying to do math and saying well 2 + 2, but not saying what it equals. What’s the use? You see this pattern from astrologers quite frequently. They love to tell you where the planet is but not what that means for you. And if they do it’s some horse shit like “the sun represents your dad haha” like what???
>>39528019>Saturn in the 10th>Relation to fatherWell, you're going to get some funny information there. Some people will say the sun relates to the 10th. Some to the 9th. The books I'm reading relate both parents to the 4th instead of just the mother. Personally, I've never seen Saturn as ruling the father. The sun and moon have always been accurate indicators for me with the houses providing additional context. No one's ever told me I'm wrong.>You claim blah blah blahYeah, I'm familiar with the essential dignities as a score board for dignity. That's how it's used a few astrologers. What you seem to be doing is using rulership as some kind of seperate entity but referring to essential dignity as some kind of all encompassing deal. First of all, if you do that then RULERSHIP IS AN ESSENTIAL DIGNITY. Are you kidding me? You can't just group 5 seperate systems together and tell me that I'm not allowed to seperate myself from 3 techniques I don't use. You don't use 4 of these techniques, but Rulership is a part of essential dignity. You can claim whatever the fuck you want, but I'm not putting a score board on this shit. There's a way of putting a value on the planets. To me, that is the point of labeling all of this as "essential dignity.">>39528080>Chris Brennan is nothing but a historianHe gives interpretations in his book using real examples from real life. He pulls out the entire Kennedy family at different points to discuss techniques and how their / family member's deaths were in their chart via different techniques.>Mocking the sun as the fatherYou're retarded if you think it's not. Saturn stays in the same sign for 3 years and you're trying to tell me that it represents the father. I can find plenty of texts that say the Sun represents the father. It appears in every chart. Every single one. You know what doesn't? Saturn.
I'm seconding the signification that the Sun can represent the father. I have seen way too many charts with the Sun in the 12th and the individual's father being absent at some point in the person's life for that not to add up into something. That being said I have seen Saturn represent the father as well (and 10th house, because as it turns out there's a lot of overlap for significations in astrology). For me personally, I have a Saturn in the 12th, and my brother has his Sun in the 12th, both in Placidus, and we lost our father when we were both young.
>>39528340Can you post your chart?
>>39528368Sure, I've posted it here before for shits and gigs.
a general reading would be great. thank you!
>>39528520I read whole sign since I'm the hellenistic anon. In whole sign Saturn is in the 1st house. There are a few things that are interesting here, such as the ruler of the 4th being in the 8th.I'm still experimenting with the 10th as the father rather than just containing the parents to the 4th. This makes sense to me because of a method used to determine how people in the native's life see them, and how some houses gain some significations, such as the 8th having the signification of other people's things / money due to it being the 2nd house from the 8th's perspective)Anyways your 10th house ruler is Jupiter, which is being maltreated here. It's being enclosed by both malefics in the chart by 3 degrees, and Venus is just far enough away to not be able to intervene. Jupiter is out of sect since you were born as the sun was setting, and Mars is in fall.>What does this mean?Bad things happen to your dad, but it seems like you had a good relationship with him since the sun is in the 7th, although with it being on the descendant it's a bit tricky. I've noticed that things on the descendant also means that it's also in the way of the ascendant.Obviously you said that your father died when you were young. I'm not good enough to be confident in my guesses, but there's a lot ruled by the 8th, and Jupiter rules over the ascendant as well.My point is that there's plenty of theories to go off of in your chart.
>>39528340in whole sign my sun is in the 12th but my brother has it in both charts and our dad is a lifelong addict that we have seen only a few times in our lives lol. my moon is in the 12th house in placidus and I dislike my mother and haven't seen her in years. shits funny
Can anyone please help me rectify my mother's birth chart? I don't know her time of birth. Thanks.
>>39528184no he doesnt lol hes like the barney or teletubbies of astrology
Could anyone help with this question? >>39525556
>>39529235Idk about the methods those anons are talking about, but I noticed exactly what was up with Saturn by the time it got to a conjunction. For a good while things were reaching a boiling point and people kept asking for too much from me. Did I listen? No. Not til it left the sign (but remained conjunct) did I realize what the fuck was up. It was like a weight was lifted off of my shoulder in a way.What was Saturn trying to tell me? The people in my life are insufferable faggots and they will never be satisfied so it's best to focus on myself since I'll be happy with how I live my life rather than dashing around desperately to please assholes.But yeah, the return was shit and it revealed a lot of unpleasant truths and revealed the purpose of my life to me. The things I did know had their boundaries smashed. Some of it took a second since a lot of crazy shit was going on in my life.Don't worry too much about your Saturn return. Whatever happens is gonna be for your own good, and it's gonna be a reoccurring theme in your life whether you realize it or not. It might not even be something you immediately spot in your chart.
>>39524736For reasons I cannot disclose, please tell me: how do I die?
>>39529633do you think we’re retarded?
>>39528776the moon in the 12th house doesn’t mean you don’t like your mom, neither does having the sun in the 12th house mean you have a shitty dad. where are you guys getting your info from?
>>39529324That what worries me like Im being blind and deaf to the most important problem areas.
General reading for the next 2 months would be nice
>>39524736someone tell me some stuff, I read Saturn return is like 29.5 years of life or something like that, so I am about to get my Saturn return next year.
Anything remarkable?
What’s the meaning of theRuler of the 8th in the 7th house conjunct to descendant and 3 planets in the 8th?
>>39531015Yeah. You strike me as a creative type that struggles to reach their fullest potential. You have 3 planets in the 5th house. It's the house of Good Fortune. Some of it's significations are the following: kids, creativity and sex. Venus finds her joy here, but the problem is that the ruler of the 10th is compromised. It's your primary malefic since this is a night chart. It is retrograde and in exile. Basically it's in really bad condition and the planets here have to rely on it. It's in the 10th house of career and reputation. Now the good thing is that Jupiter trines your Mercury and Sun there. For Mercury it's an exact aspect trine. The ruler of your ascendant, Venus, is not saved however. Venus is the primary benefic of your chart, but it has nothing to save it.Saturn more or less affects your entire chart. It has a superior square with Jupiter, and Mars is also in Capricorn where it is exalted... but Saturn rules over that sign as well. The Moon is "safe" in that it rules over Saturn, but it's ruled by Jupiter which is getting that superior square. It's also in the 6th, which is not a good place.There is a saving grace here, and that is your Jupiter since it's relatively close to the ascendant and rules over the moon. You can improve the way that you present yourself and that should help you out in some capacity.Mars is questionable here. On one hand it's exalted and less malefic in a night chart. On the other hand it's ruled by your primary malefic. How is romance? Mars rules over the 7th, so that should be a good indicator of how it operates. Personal finances and values are also ruled by Mars.TL;DR: Your chart is very Saturnian. I've heard that Saturn in Cancer is like wanting too much out of yourself and others.
>>39531530Where is the rulers of the planets? Where is the ruler of the 8th? It really depends, but it doesn't seem good desu.Hitler had 3 planets in the 8th. Venus, Mars and his Sun. Mars was the primary malefic and it was conjunct to Venus. Even though Venus is home in Taurus, it is performing poorly because it's the 8th house, and it's also conjunct to the primary malefic. Mars was ruler of the 7th house, while Venus ruled over both the 8th and the 1st house. Hitler and his wife killed themselves.Anyways, that probably won't happen to you, but the sign, modality and a few other things matter. You don't have to have a lot of planets in the 8th for it to be active. For instance a friend of mine has the 8th being ruled by the sun in a mutable sign on the 29th degree. Mutable signs are pretty active. Not as active as cardinal signs, but active enough for him to talk about how many people have died around him. He has Venus in the 8th, but Venus is a fixed sign so it's unlikely to be that what it's signifying is a common occurrence in his life.One of his girlfriends died and he said it was pretty traumatic for him.Also important is that the 8th doesn't simply mean death. It still deals with other people's finances and values. It can signify things similar to the 12th and 6th houses, such as an absent father since the ascendant can not see the sun from that spot if it's parked there.Anything in the 8th that relates to the native will be difficult for them to properly see and act on.There was an incel here who would always ask for his chart to be read. Venus was exalted but he couldn't see his own beauty and constantly made excuses as to why he couldn't get a girlfriend. Probably could have gotten one, but he perceived women as hating him, and once he began to pursue men he had similar feelings towards them.In other words, difficulty understanding the things Venus signifies in relation to other's values. He was self admitted very black pilled for no reason.
>>39531015There are two eminence indicators in this chart. Sun is spearbeared by ascending Jupiter, and the 10th lord Moon is conjuct Royal fixed star Fomalhaut.
>>39532304>>39531530Last example had a few things that signified this like the ruler of the 8th being in poor condition and the ruler of the 1st being in the 6th, but you get my point.
>>39532311What are some quality texts that you recommend for learning about fixed stars? I'm planing on reading through older astrologer's texts soon which should have good details but I'm unsure what is most relevant to me.
>>39532190As an artist who’s biggest struggle has always been burnout, you have read me like a book. I had barely any knowledge of my chart prior to this so I’m really impressed on the accuracy. I really appreciate your insight.
>>39532352No problem. Other anon seems to know what he's talking about with the fixed stars. I've looked into them, but it's beyond my knowledge presently.
>>39532311I’d love to hear more about what this means if you’re willing to
>>39532340Anonymous 379 and Vivian E. Robson.>>39532402Fame.
>>39532304I really appreciate the well-thought out response. as for deaths around me, It mainly happens to other people like how two of my friend’s father’s died, I remember a premonition I had where a guy had a seizure on a floor and it happened right next to me in the gym after some dude decked him and he slammed his head off the bench.I remember telling two people about it, but they weren’t in the school anymore by then. It never seems to be aimed at me, just the people I know.My chart was this one btw- >>39525686
>>39532486Ahh. Yeah, I was the person who initially responded lol. Yeah, the ruler of the 8th (Jupiter) is conjunct to your descendant. Part of the reason why I thought it was cursed.Murder suicide was a bit of an exaggeration but it is concerning to see in a chart.I'm not entirely sure what causes premonitions in a chart, but I've had serious cases of Deja reve before and my chart ruler is mercury in the 12th and my moon forms a harsh aspect with it from the strongest house in my chart, the 9th house. Your moon rules over the 3rd, which naturally also has some significations of the 9th since it is the 9th from the perspective of the 7th. This or the chart ruler may be responsible for this, but it's hard to tell since Venus is also here and it it rules over the 6th.They are both in the same sign so they're aware of each other, and while they may not make direct contact they occupy the same area of life, granting significations to the 8th to expand it's overall meaning in your life.Jupiter is pretty powerful since it's conjunct to an angle and the primary benefic. Your chart is kind of spooky and so I don't know whether or not this is a blessing in and of itself since it likely brings some form of confusion and stress.
I keep finding Placidus to be more accurate overall in terms of celebrities, close ones, myself, etc. Switching over to whole sign has created many instances of things being completely backwards, such as a Mars 1st to 12th and stuff of the sort.
>>39532996Don't fall for the whole sign meme unless you're gonna commit to practicing vedic astrology or very old Hellenistic or traditional astrology as is. Placidus has been a staple since the Renaissance and you either grow and develop with a system of knowledge or you stick to a tradition that you've decided works well enough for you. There is a base of truth in every system that will always be valid (and it tends to survive) but when you anachronistically mix and match changing elements from the past and the present you're more likely to get incoherence.Personally I find WSH one of the elements of traditional astrology that is outdated.
>>39532996Try learning proper Hellenistic astrology. It uses a lot of different techniques and they have things to overlay on top of a whole sign chart like quadrant houses to derive more info. I've never personally found Placidus to be accurate outside of the houses and placements that line up with whole sign, especially since a lot of techniques do not work with Placidus such as anything that's supposed to grab info (such as who rules over what house) from a placement in a chart during any kind of chart analysis or technique like profections.
I have around 45 minutes before I need to go to bed and I want to have some fun.OFFERING 1 of the following:1. I will tell you which deity/entity is most compatible with your astrological signature 2. I will give you an example of placements I think would be "ideal" in a partner for you based on your chart3. I will recommend a book, film, work of art, famous person etc. that I think would be relevant for you to learn aboutAll of these are FOR FUN. Please choose 1. Not answering other questions or readings charts. I may come back tomorrow to finish off requests if there is interest.
>>39532891Thanks, I’m pretty sure the premonitions is actually second sight, When I was a child I use to get it pretty regularly. Even now I get it the odd time, I think addiction and mental illness affects it. I’m not actually sure how this came about, I remember a very old memory of two small beings outside my window but that might have been my Imagination. When the event actually happens you get this weird minor shock and realise in your head ‘Oh shit this was predicted’.How good reads you would recommend on astrology?
>>39533169I'll let you pick which to read for me. It's more fun that way :)>>39533197This book is a great start. I learned through reading charts and through breaking down individual components of signs, houses and planets to understand what they mean on a fundamental level, but this will give you an amazing foundation that stop you from falling into the pitfalls that I fell into when trying to do research. The biggest problem is that people can not decide on what constitutes what, so you will encounter a lot of contradictory information from people learning from 5 seperate systems that do not add up if you just google things or trust people who seem reputable. It's worth stating that there is some value in some techniques, but that there are things that are outright wrong, such as the assignment of sign traits to houses. People will tell you that Pisces is associated with the 12th for instance, or that the generational planets rule over certain signs, which is simply not true.
>>39533272Cheers, but what book is it?
>>39533272Myth of Orpheus and Eurydice
>>39533336oh shit, i forgot to ping the post>>39526524>>39533356Thanks anon
>>395331693 sounds interesting
>>39533169 >>39525686I’ll take 1.
>>39533169I pick the third option.
>>39533466The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy novels by Douglas Adams
>>39533516Thanks anon
>>39525686>>39533475Kali
>>39533502Shame (2011)Going to bed! Returning tomorrow.
Ok tell me what's wrong with me
>>39533085Yeah, it's seeming that way. I've been making comparisons a lot, and whole sign is looking funky almost all the time in comparison and a lot of very clear indicators of it not working as good.
>>39533597>0 degree sun in the 12th ruled by Venus, which is in poor condition>Mercury is retrograde in the 12th|>Closely conjunct to SunVery naive and free energy. You have a few placements similar to me here, but things are a little bit different. Your 6th house seems pretty active which isn't making things easy for you. Saturn is retrograde, as is Mars.Chart ruler being in the condition that it is means a few things: One, you require grounding in order to function properly. Two, your childhood was likely not very good.I want to take the time to tell you anon that there is nothing wrong with you. Your experience is normal and you shouldn't worry too much about if there is something wrong with you. Life can be this way sometimes, and you should focus on living your life as best you can.>10th house ruler in the 8th>2nd house ruler in the 7thWhat do you do for a living, if anything? I ask because your 8th house ruler is in the 6th and person I know that's on disability has a similar placement. There's a few indicators of you getting your money from other people or your career having to do with other people's finances. Things like that.
Why is it so hard for me to find something to do in my free time?How can I reconnect with society?
can I please get a general reading? I'm pretty new to this stuff so any help is appreciatedthanks in advance, much love
>>39534288Donald Trump is he was an incel.
>>39534018Your father was most likely absent/emotionally distant so your mother developed a more assertive/aggressive nature regarding your nurturing.
>>39533597Sun and chart ruler in the 12th house, you're a shut-in detached from the world. If not a shut-in you probably have any chronic illness withdrawing you from the world.
>>39532190Your reading is shit, you said nothing.>muh dignity>muh exaltation>muh exile>muh detriment>muh rulerWhere's the analysis? Too much knowledge but zero creativity to interpret a damn chart.
Can someone analyse my chart, focusing on career and wealth, specifically 2nd house matters? Is there any issues specifically that i should be aware of in this areas? I am struggling to find a job after graduating and looking to see how my life pans out in this aspect. Any help appreciated
>>39534377My father was very emotionally distant and spend more time in the casino or with his friends than with his family.My mother is a virgo sun pisces moon (potentially aquarius moon), she was not very successful at fostering my talents.I'm just a person of inaction, I don't feel alive. I used to be a NEET for many years, but now I am getting back into the work place, but I feel like I have missed out on too much development
>>39534367I don't get it, care to elaborate?
>>39534414The analysis was boiled down. He asked for what was notable. What's notable is that the chart is Saturnian and Saturn is afflicted. They confirmed what I wrote you fucking autist. They're an artist struggling to make it atm. I asked questions about what I wasn't sure about. So that I could gather more, but anon didn't provide and I'm not going to prod. What do you want from me you? I told him what I thought, which is that if he works on himself then he has a good shot at counteracting the issues in his chart, which was purely speculative based on the information I have. Maybe I should have just written 3 lines and not explained anything. Envy doesn't look good on you, anon, and in fact I find you and your kind repulsive.
>>39533169il take 3
>>39534288Friendly and driven. A real people person. The anon that first responded to you is commenting on the similarities between your chart and Donald trump's, but the only similarities here are the ascendant, mars and sun placement. All in all not very much in common.You're likely known for Venusian things, and the mercurial influence has me thinking writer, but Mars in the 1st and Leo ascendant has me thinking it's likely more reliant on you yourself in some way. Venus is in domicile and conjunct to the midheaven. The difference is a little more than 3 degrees, but at about that range is when angles can empower placements by a sizeable amount.Exact trine on Moon and Jupiter, so you're very intune with your intuition. Moon is ruled by Mercury in the 12th which can be a bit funny. Mercury operates on a subconscious kind of level already, and it's within the moon's sign. In other words these two placements work together. You likely just know things at times, but it's important that you don't fuck around too much doing things that clutter your brain with noise.Mercury's placement implies a need for alone time, but you seem pretty chatty and sociable otherwise.
>>39532996Does it still work for people who are born in high north or south platitudes?
Cam I get a reading?
>>39536132are you paranoid and ocd?
>>39536132Stop posting your chart here nigger. You've gotten so many reads. Nothing changes.
What's wrong with me?
>>39536330Your moon squares your mercury. Both are in mercurial signs, but the moon forms a superior square. Even though your Mercury is really good (and thus your moon is as well) you likely have trouble thinking since these two processes are seperate and stepping on each other's toes. Mars is in the 6th though and your sun is on the descendant. People say that the sun finds it's joy here, but it certainly doesn't seem to benefit the native. I'd have to reread some older charts, but even a seemingly well dignified Mars in the 6th seems to have problems. I don't know if it's in sect or not though since it's really close. Sometimes the birthtime is off by like a sliver, and your sun is just under the horizon.So many planets in the 7th, and with the ruler of the 1st (which is in the 1st too, nice) in opposition to your sun like that it also implies that you focus too much on other people. You may be gifted but struggling to show it for that very reason. I believe that's what Jupiter being in retrograde here represents as well. You're letting your potential go to waste because of others.
>>39534909Walter White's arc from Breaking Bad
>>39536270Yes, quite a lot.
>>39534483Bump on mine :)
>>39527388... noob question: what if one does not have any planet in the twelfth house?
>>39536921nta but it just means it's a passive house, you still have it but its themes will not be in the forefront of your life and personality as something to constantly deal with and it will only activate through transits. other people's planets falling there and what the house ruler is doing.
>>39536330Your mom was fucked up and you'll be tempted reenact the Oedipal drama of taking someone else's partner who's off-limits for you through orbiting and bending backwards for people who are spoken for, push and pull situationships, unrequited love, affairs with coworkers and mate-poaching.
... can someone give me a brief explanaition on what houses are? I do not really get the difference between them and the regular signs. Do you count houses from the descendent onwards?
>>39536330>all those 6th house placementsdo you have good or bad health?
>>39526935>Talismans are not real. If you want to change your reality then you need to make a real effort to change your life. Laying in bed holding on to a locket is not going to change your reality. Thinking really hard is not going to change your reality.I'll never understand people who believe in Astrology but stuff like this is too out there for them. Ok David Goggins.
>>39537075Houses are life topics. You count them from the ascendant. Houses tell you where, signs tell you how.
>>39538308arent some houses better than other for some planets?
>>39530445Pls :(
>>39538444Yes. Some people disagree on which those are those. I personally don't believe in houses as zodiac signs so I use Planetary joys, which uses a different kind of logicThe Planetary Joys are as follows:Mercury: First houseMoon: Third HouseVenus: Fifth HouseMars: Sixth HouseSun: Ninth HouseJupiter: Eleventh HouseSaturn: Twelfth House The logic may not be easy to follow immediately, but a number of the significations are based their location in relation to the ascendant/descendant as well as sect. Night planets are at the bottom and day planets are at the top. They mirror each other, the luminaries, the benefics and malefics of sect and I'm not sure if this is a coincidence or not, but the placement in relation to the asc/dsc axis seems to be indicative to their relationship.(Moon and Sun form a sextile with their respective part of the axis, Venus and Jupiter form a trine, and Mars and Jupiter form no aspect.) At times it's hard to grasp what things came first since in Hellenistic astrology a lot of it is communicating in ways where the logic is sound across the board, but if I remember correctly and this google search isn't wrong then Planetary Joys are responsible for some of the significations of the houses. Those significations are still used to this day, even if people aren't aware of this system.
>>39530445You hid your details, which makes it hard to do profections. If you want people to do profections, you can tell them your age and post your solar return for that year. People can give you info about how things will be until your next birthday. It's a lot more work otherwise. You appear to be somewhere around 21-22 just based off of knowing other people with Cancer Saturn.What I can tell you is that in 2025 you'll have Jupiter conjunct Venus and it'll hit every planet in your 10th house some time afterwards. It looks like you'll have some kind of drive to get shit done and maybe you'll find romance / creative drive. It's hard to tell without the deets, and even then transits can be a bit funny. Venus is trining your natal Venus about now. No idea what it's indicating.Your Natal mars isn't very good though since it's in the 6th house but it rules over the 2nd and 7th house. Whatever you were working at / dealing with a few months ago could pop back up since Mars is about to peddle back through your 10th house (reputation and career) via retrogradePresently it's in the 11th house.
>>39538676Oh, Mercury finds it's joy in the 1st house because it is neutral in sect and the ascendant can put it above or below the horizon. This isn't possible in Placidus but the logic is based in whole sign, where if the ascendant is in a sign the entire sign is the first house.
Happy new year astroniggers. How's 2025 looking for me?
>>39539186Evaluating your mistakes and growing as a person. Lots of planets in the 8th. Some of that is normal since Venus and Mercury are never that far behind or ahead of the sun, but they are conjunct to Saturn. Venus in particular is only one degree seperating.The Eleventh carries a few significations such as your friends, hopes and dreams. It's the house of good spirit. Natally it is ruled by the 8th. Jupiter is there presently, but it does not do well.The eighth chart represents a few things such as death, other people's values and finances. Naturally a placement there also represents change, as we are exposing ourselves to things involving other people and letting them influence us.Basically it looks like there's going to be a lot of mistakes and you're going to have to assess your actions and see if they're what you truly want out of life. Might also be issues with romance.
>>39539282Thanks. Could you expand a little on how my finances are looking as well as career?
is this the most scorpio coded fictional character
>>39539286In that context you are working hard at your job since your 10th (career) rules over the 8th. The Eighth house is generally not good, but this could be indicative of a lot of work being put into your job + getting money out of it. Do you spend a lot of time traveling? Sun forms a very tight aspect sextile to Jupiter, which might imply travel since one of the significations of the 9th is travel. 12th house has similar significations.The only problem is determining whether or not Venus being here is indicative of good growth for money.
How's my chart looking for 2025 frens
>>39539370Appreciate it man, happy new year
>>39539333He gives me more of a bad Aquarius vibe. He has all the ideas of what it will be like if he gets the crabby patty formula but he fails to put his plans into motion. The plan is poorly thought out, and not really going anywhere. Of course, all of this could be solved by him just fucking making his own food. But god forbid Aquarius (when ill dignified) do something themselves or those around them. It's idealism without basis in reality and this is the pinnacle of how bad it can get.Leo can get similar results. Bad Leo energy is like "Look at what I did" when what they did was jack off ten times that day. Wanting recognition without the effort and results that warrant it.
>>39539422>Bad Leo energyA Leo wanting positive affirmation for doing absolutely nothing is pretty peak Leo energy, desu. Whereas a well dignified Leo would say "it's great because I did" and needing that positive affirmation confirming it is indeed great, I'd argue an ill dignified Leo would more along the lines of "it's shit because I did it" and needing affirmation to the opposite; the strength of a large ego gets turned on its head.
Hi Astrobros! Last year a kind anon gave me a quick reading on my major transits for 2024. I would appreciate if someone could say something for my 2025. Thank you and happy new year to everyone.
>>39539970I'm thinking about energy in general. It can go both ways, but I've seen people with 0 degree Leo energy and lol, lmao even.>Native had Sun in the 12th, Leo ascendant>Venus and Mars in the 1st>Mars conjunct ascendant>Would not stop talking over other people>Lied about or embellished things that happened to him>Talked down to other people for trivial things such as being older (and thus better) than them>Bragged about art>Bragged about living in Hollywood>Got upset when no one cared that he lived in Hollywood>Claimed to make six figures, but no one I knew believed him because he would constantly ask people to sign up to grub hub so he could get free foodSo the take away from this is that Leo Mars was on a critical degree and it's ruler (ascendant's ruler) was in the 12th. Lots and lots of Leo energy. A strong desire for attention, but no reason for it to be given.He showed off his music at some point and it was really amateurish. The album art was very goofy in a "No one else could have or would have made this" kind of way. It was as if someone had taken pictures of photoshopped stock images off of google of varying contrasting styles and put them together on a white background, and that was the album cover.This guy was in his mid 30s and there wasn't a single planet that wasn't afflicted in some way (mercury was retrograde) outside of MAYBE his moon, because I can't recall it's position. He was like a professional NEET who thought he was a star because of where he lived.
22 year old uni student here preparing to travel abroad for a semester. What does my natal chart say about my career and love life? :)
This is the chart of the girl i had my marriage interview withIs she a good girl for marriage? How does her past look like?
>>39543374>Moon in the 5th>Venus in Sagittarius >Fortune in Leo in the 10th>Scorpio RisingLAWWWWDYYYY, should we tell him?
>>39543374>marriage interviewYou ( or your parents) interview a lot of people?
this is objective
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>>39544821the fifth finger and the fourth finger can only be moved together (anyone that plays an instrument knows this)the middle finger is a sign of aggressionthe pointer finger points the waythe thumb balances the other fingers out
>>39544405W-what do you mean? She looks like a nice normal girl
>>39544500I just started the process, this was the first girl i met. She was cute, quite chill. I wasn't intimidated while talking to her
what terms should I use in astrologyegyptian ptolemean or chaldean
>>39524833I remember if you tried making a perfect tradwife in The Sims she would come out as a Virgo.
>>39545267>female detected
>>39536132Can I get a reading?
>>39545267Virgos literally are the perfect tradwife, as far as I know and have witnessed currently. (Dependent on the rest of the chart, of course, as always)Saying this as a Pisces dude.
>>39527810Pretty please?
>>39524736Not asking for predictive reading of the future, but rather asking for an answer of my pastTo make a long story short, I was an abuser to my ex gf, so I’m asking why was I a piece of shit to her? I was in other healthy relationships with different people before her, but then she somehow triggered all sorts of unresolved wounds in me. I did things I never thought I would ever do in my life, and now I pay for it everyday in my grief and remorse for hurting her in every way possible.She wanted me, I pushed her away hoping for someone healthier who wasn’t bi-polar and now it’s all in the past with nothing to be done.I read my solar return chart of when we were together in 2023-24 and I had Moon conjunct Pluto in the 8th house squaring the nodes. It’s definitely the worst year of my life so far.Our vertexes were at play so we were meant to cross paths in our life, but there’s gotta more than meets the eye. I just hate that her Sun also conjuncts my asteroid Juno, because it’s all I think about wishing she would be my life partner.I have our composite chart as well if that would be helpful.So yes, that’s my question; what was the point of it all, why was it so painful?>synastry chart>me blue>her orange
>>39546191Vertexes are a meme anon. That being said this is worthless without the degrees. Please also make it in whole sign. Look how small her first and second house are. I can't read this shit. 12th house goes into three seperate houses.
>>39535137Speaking of Trump, does anyone have thoughts on his inauguration transits?
>>39546581Ha that’s good to hear some proper criticism. Here’s the whole sign version with degrees as well.There’s a less crowded version of the synastry chart, but they don’t display the degrees. If you’d like a different one, I can do it
>>39546581This will do.If you're looking for "fate", that'd be the north and south nodes. Her Venus is trining your Node by an exact degree. It's fated to an extent. Her Venus is in the 12th, which is kind of tough for her, but the interesting thing here is that you guys have flipped houses since your ascendants are on opposing ends.Your Mars is also being trined by her venus since it's conjunct to your node. The interesting thing about that is that trines are not always good. In a situation like this your Mars is in exile. It's in a Venusian sign, which means that your conflicts involve things like this. Things like love. She might have been supportive and encouraged you to behave this way even if not intentional. Her Venus is ruled by Mercury, which is in your 8th. You struggle to understand the way that she loves, which might be due to her not fully understanding how she operates either. Mutable signs function like two sides of the same coin simultaneously. Even when she isn't intending to do something you can't fully perceive either of these placements (for you her venus is in your 6th) and so you're on edge since from your perspective you just can't see or understand her. Your moon and jupiter are also in fall. Jupiter in retrograde. Trouble emoting is the usual manifestation of this placement But it's on her asc-dsc line, right on her descendant. You probably had emotions you didn't understand and they were made known. Jupiter here, especially parked right on the descendant likely amplified this effect. (1/2)Your sun is conjunct her sun, and while hers is doing fine in the 2nd, yours is in the 8th, which is a place the ascendant can't see. While the 2nd doesn't see the ascendant either, it props up the ascendant and thus is superior.It's kind of like you two are fighting and you're more involved and focused in her affairs. Since it's in a spot you can't see it takes more introspection to realize what you're doing to her.
>>39546813Oh, my bad. It's Her Jupiter on her descendant. Your moon is fine in this chart. She struggles to get her emotions across to you while you share a lot with her. Your moons are a good distance apart, but I think that there was some tension with this for sure.Your ex has a lot going on her chart. Lots of planets in bad spots, and some of yours are questionable, but make a little bit of sense. Both of your Venuses are mercurial, so communication was key, and it's likely that even if she did explain you would have struggled to get it. It's not entirely your fault in this case. It is that you acted how you did without catching yourself, but things are kind of funny here in a way that you two step on each other's toes. You two were also born with funny charts due to where how it placed the horizon. Your midheaven is in the 12th and her's is in her 8th house. Your sun is pretty close to her IC as a result. This axis represents her childhood, private life, and her reputation, what she does etc. It being there may have triggered something. You don't strike me as someone who had an easy childhood. Neither of you do desu.
>>39547040>>39546813This is meant to be responding to you, but you can ignore the comments on the first post about the jupiter. God damn though I'm all over the place lol.
>>39547040Can I get a reading though please>>39536132
>>39546581>vertex is a "meme">whole sign retard
>>39547144I and every other astrologer in this thread have probably read your chart before. Nothing changes. Stop posting here.>>39547146>Uses Placidus, whicht is founded on lies and misunderstandings>Named after the guy who said Ptolemy came up with it>Basically just a quadrant house method, which are meant for certain techniques>Getting mad at me for not bothering to learn whole sign or why quadrant houses were usedYou can get yourself a rope for 10 dollars, but if that's too expensive I'm sure there are some train tracks and they can split you open wide.Also, anon literally posted the reason why placidus is a meme. His midheaven is in the 12th. His ex's is in the 2nd. It's like the position Look at those houses and tell me they look okay lol. They were not born in a place where you should be using placidus.
>>39547209Then read it again.
>>39547214Fuck off.
>>39547222Then read it again.
>>39547040>>39547137How can one man be so based. First off, thank you so much for your help.And yeah, I kinda picked up the Jupiter stuff already so you’re all good haha.It’s pretty spot on with what you’re saying. The relationship was confusing to say the very least, inconsistent if you will.Our childhoods were both crap to say it lightly. She’s was orphaned at 16 after losing her irresponsible yet loving mom to cancer. I had a hard-ass father and a cold mother.Regardless, my ex and I would fight over semantics of what each other really meant, she also constantly accused me of cheating for months until I was at the end of my rope and said “fuck it, if she wants me to cheat on her, then so be it”.So I, broke up with her in a feigned attempt at avoiding a guilty conscience so it’s not “technically cheating”. But either way, I’ve been kicking myself in regret ever since. Her robotness used to hurt me a lot as it felt so impersonal many times over.I told her “I’m trying to love you in the way I know how” but again, the semantics of “try” and “way I know how” would also be at the forefront. We were so used to hurting eachother.Even when we were together, I knew it wasn’t gonna last, but yet she seems to represent this ideal in me that she is the one I want, is so bizarre. It’s like I was too afraid to give her my all, but instead I kept her in the backburner. It’s definitely safe to say she hates meIn the stuff regarding the IC, are you saying MY Sun triggered something in her, or vice versa HER Sun triggering me?I’ve just been in a real review state these past few days as the Sun is transiting my 12th right now so there’s that aha
>>39547137Hey, lets get a reading >>39536132
>>39547324Stop asking me for readings. I've given you more than one before. Leave these threads you autist. You just want me to read your chart so you can cry about how women hate you and you'll never find love even though no kind of analysis on my part ever said that.You want my analysis? really? truly? Stay the fuck away from women. You are a threat to them and those around you. You will get zero bitches, and on the off chance you ever did you're a real fucking creep and a cop pulling you over because he accidentally saw your mug as you passed him going to save their life when you schizo the fuck out.You're an animal who is incapable of love yet obsesses over it.Mars Conjunct IC, Conjunct Moon. Both trining your Venus in the 8th. Mars acts fine, but it fucks your already shitty moon up. You are paranoid as hell and can not comprehend what other people are up to. Your intuition is strong, but it is in the wrong direction and fucks with your thoughts because it forms a superior square to your mercury. You act more like a dog as a person because you have these intrusive thoughts based on things that haven't even happened. Your Venus is being trined by an exact aspect. This is very bad since Mars has all the say in this relationship and you have no idea what is going on in the 8th. You are retardedly oblivious, and as I said before, your intuition is working here, and it's wrong.Venus is also ruled by an out of sect benefic that is in retrograde. It acts as a pseudo malefic in your chart. It says to me "Could get friends and stop being a little bitch, but won't." It doesn't hurt that it's ruler is being squared by the moon as I discussed before.So we can see here that your shit's all retarded, and this area of life (pussy) that you can't and will never see is just outside of your reach. Perhaps because you're schizo. Perhaps because you're a fucking psychopath who needs to stay away from women and the good lord above knows it.And no, don't gay it up.
>>39547319>In the stuff regarding the ICIt relates to her situation. It's relating to where she's been. Like you said you guys have been through some shit. It's only a potential issue due to a conjunction, but it's not like a planet so I can't really analyze it too well. A conjunction is powerful, but it means that things can stumble over each other. If it relates to nothing on her part, it could be like her childhood. It's likely a light factor, but I still feel it plays a role.>She constantly accused me of cheatingI wonder if that's the self sabotage of Venus in the 12th or projection from some aspect of you both being on a similar page but not quite there.
>>39548017Alas, that would require effort much like making friends or asking women out. I mean come on man Jupiter is in charge of the 5th. Retrograde and in Gemini? Sexless forever. It just seems like sex of any kind is not in your near future. And don't get me started on Retrograde Saturn as your primary malefic being retrograde and in charge of your 6th and 7th house. It's the reason why your skin is fucked. At some point people just sense your aura and start screaming. You are ugly inside and out.
>>39547933>>39548056There's no way to change this outlook? You're very biased
>>39548059Nah, shit's fucked forever unless you can keep your mental state in check cunt.
>>39548070I am not a bad person. Tell me more, why is this a thing? That's how women think of me, that's such a very coded thing that this >Could get friends and stop being a little bitch, but won't."makes no sense, theres no could when the aspects are those.You say friends but no love, is that intentional?
Am I seriously supposed to believe specific stars, which are billions of light-years away, have an observable impact on a person's personality and general behavior? Do you think I'm retarded?
>>39548084Ruler of the 1st in the 6th. You self sabotage. Work on yourself to free yourself of your own cage. Don't ask me to open the door just to stand there too afraid to step outside and look within.
>>39548098I'm more concerned that you entered a thread full of things you don't like or believe in anon.>Do you expect me to believe that stars which are billions of light-years away...The moon controls hormone cycles and the sun affects gravity. People have been proven to be more likely to be geared towards certain personalities based on when they were born, and Saturn and Jupiter do have a gravitational pull on the Earth.Believe what you want to believe, but the argument of planets and stars not affecting the planet is poor and it's one that's commonly debunked just by reading scientific papers on things completely unrelated to astrology.
>>39548194Nothing you told me here sounds like it can be fixed >>39547933Just this is demoralizing like nothing else I've read>>Mars Conjunct IC, Conjunct Moon. Both trining your Venus in the 8th. Mars acts fine, but it fucks your already shitty moon up. You are paranoid as hell and can not comprehend what other people are up to. Your intuition is strong, but it is in the wrong direction and fucks with your thoughts because it forms a superior square to your mercury. You act more like a dog as a person because you have these intrusive thoughts based on things that haven't even happened. Your Venus is being trined by an exact aspect. This is very bad since Mars has all the say in this relationship and you have no idea what is going on in the 8th. You are retardedly oblivious, and as I said before, your intuition is working here, and it's wrong.>Venus is also ruled by an out of sect benefic that is in retrograde. It acts as a pseudo malefic in your chart. It says to me "Could get friends and stop being a little bitch, but won't." It doesn't hurt that it's ruler is being squared by the moon as I discussed before.>So we can see here that your shit's all retarded, and this area of life (pussy) that you can't and will never see is just outside of your reach. Perhaps because you're schizo. Perhaps because you're a fucking psychopath who needs to stay away from women and the good lord above knows it.>Jupiter is in charge of the 5th. Retrograde and in Gemini? Sexless forever. Ugly inside and out.The key to self sabotage is that it prevents you from being sad when failure happens. Nothing above sounds like it can be fixed, it sounds innate from others. So suicide is the best possible end then?
>>39548235>Nothing here seems fixable>Fixed sign moon>Fixed sign malefics, implying a one and done situation in your life (i.e. done once you move away from your mom)>Benefics are mutable, implying multiple chancesJust live your life with the intention to pick up the pieces and you'll find your solution. Anything else is you avoiding the problem. You already know this. I've already told you. Multiple people have already told you. I will probably tell you again tomorrow. I will probably tell you again a week, a month, a year from now.The problem comes from within and needs to be resolved. I say it's not getting fixed because you aren't trying. You keep coming here expecting a different reading every time. Charts are not gacha pulls. This is your life, not start living it.
>>39548263I am defeated and pathetic. You just told me no one will truly like me the way they can like someone. How should I react to that? I like to think I could have been a good person, but you just told me that.It's not something that sounded like it can change, maybe you're just being nice now so I fuck off, so I suicide and stop asking. I am curious about love because I grew up never feeling it, how does that sound?
>>39548263I don't really remember what I was told, I know readings aren't gacha pulls but I keep being confused, I am not young anymore. It seems like all the chances to live went away. You're so cold to me because I keep asking but understand it from my point of view, there's nothing, no hope and you just told me this, it can't be just ignored>Now because I pity you suddenly there's an alternativeThis reads very explicit, no one else gets these type of elements together, it's by design.>Mars Conjunct IC, Conjunct Moon. Both trining your Venus in the 8th. Mars acts fine, but it fucks your already shitty moon up. You are paranoid as hell and can not comprehend what other people are up to. Your intuition is strong, but it is in the wrong direction and fucks with your thoughts because it forms a superior square to your mercury.>Your Venus is being trined by an exact aspect. This is very bad since Mars has all the say in this relationship and you have no idea what is going on in the 8th. You are retardedly oblivious, and as I said before, your intuition is working here, and it's wrong.>So we can see here that your shit's all retarded, and this area of life (pussy) that you can't and will never see is just outside of your reach.>Jupiter is in charge of the 5th. Retrograde and in Gemini? Sexless forever. What does retrograde saturn mean on the 6th and 7thAt this point I am just looking for permission to kill myself.
>>39548310This shit right here is why I didn't want to read for you. I'm leaving the thread. Save your reads and don't ask for reads here again. That's on you. You can search for your chart on the archives or something.>You're just being nice becauseNo, I'm being mean because you keep asking for reads. I've given you multiple. I've seen you in here multiple times. I said "no, I've already given you a read" and you didn't take no for an answer. My read is brutal. It is real. But there's nothing you can't change by looking inside in regards to your chart. We're witnessing the Moon square Mercury shit rn. Your scorpio tears are getting in the way of logically analyzing what's going on in regards to what was actually said.If I see you here again I am reporting you for spam.
>>39548413So I self sabotage? Are you certain that if I actually tried I would get others to love me or not?
not looking for anything specific just the type of vibe you think my chart gives off
Looking for a reading of my chart, just something general or any advice/input you think I should hear based on my transits. Anything is appreciated really, please and thank you.
>>39526578bump?
>>39526578Untapped potential. Jupiter is in the 12th as part of your grand trine. The Sun and Mars have a very powerful trine going on. It's in the 8th (other people's values)If I had to guess there's a lot going on that helps push you towards adaptation and becoming a better person. These placements are bad on their own, but together they form something great that allows for greater introspection to tackle challenges. People with placements in the 4th can go a few ways, from being very family oriented to being obsessed with their nation or something else along those lines. It represents your private life, that which is hidden from the public light. It is the lesser legacy that we leave behind. Present, but not what you'd be known for.Anyways I don't know what the fuck this trine really represents, but every single planet here is either in it's own sign or aspected to a planet in it's sign. What that means is that they're all operating on their highest level, or very close to their highest level. I'd say this has some huge potential. The problem is that Jupiter is in retrograde. When it's like this it's like a blessing that isn't being acted on.The 12th represents the subconscious and mental. In a way Jupiter being here is like having someone watching your back. The seas part for you like you're moses but you're too afraid to cross. That's just speculation though.>Exalted Pisces Venus in the 3rd ruling over the 10th and 5th, the 5th house containing exalted Taurus Moon Creative and sensual. It's a very powerful combo. Something surrounding your childhood may get in the way of your future. Ruler of the 4th is in the 8th so the possibility that mom wasn't around is strong. The Moon is in fantastic quality outside of being surrounded by malefics, which strikes me as a tragic outcome.>7th house ruled by moonMight be something bad that happens with romance.You have cadent house activity. What's your relationship with travel / religion / spirituality?
how to interprete an anaretic (29°) jupiter in aries
>>39536468Damn. Thanks for the reading anon.
>>39537018I've never been in a relationship so yeah... really fucked up. Is there any connection with that? Thanks for the reading anon.
>>39537304I'd say good. However stomach (digestive) related are the really bad ones.Thanks for the reading anon.
What's the deal with aries women?
So is this person accurate? >>39547933>>39548056
I'd like to know what interpretation someone can get from my chart in regards to romance, love, marriage, or possibly children. I've had a small handful of relationships that all were relatively short lived but very emotionally intense and borderline abusive. I don't see myself as a victim but I'm wondering what cosmic impulses surround me that attract the type of relationships Ive experienced. I crave an emotional bond but I either seem to attract complete apathy or such extreme emotional intensity that it makes me wonder if my path isnt meant to be shared in that way as I've always regretted each of them for one reason or another.
>>39527297Have I given you a reading before here? This chart strikes me as absurdly familiar. Very interesting too. There are definitely a bunch of problematic factors about this chart, but you have some strong points too. You have some nice 9th house goodies, and your 4th house advantage is pretty significant too.The glaring problem is that extremely angular Saturn-Mars opposition on the ASC/DSC axis, and the fact that your ascendant ruler is in the 8th. It is strongly recommended that you avoid substance abuse and self-harming tendencies. You have a pretty strong Mars, so I think you can actually hold your ground pretty well - if you haven't learnt it yet, then certainly in the future. Mars-Saturn setup can actually make people involved with danger, more than anything. So be wary of that, perhaps.The malefics are pretty strongly emphasised so ambition makes sense. You may well be successful, too. Just keep in mind that it will probably require you to be on the grind and to overcome challenges.Your 10th house of reputation and success is pretty good too, since its ruler Mars is received by Saturn and bonified by Jupiter. You might be good at artistic things, or things that rely on appearance and popularity.>>39527810That's a dumb question to ask of an astrologer, but both your Moon and Mercury have strong positive aspects from Jupiter so yes, I can see you improving in the future.>>39529633Hi Hitler.>>39534483You've gotten a whole bunch of readings here already.>>39548558World's nicest welfare leech thug. Either that or banker scum!
>>39551315Is this an accurate birthtime? You have a pretty early ascendant.I can see what you are talking about though. You have Venus as your ascendant ruler, and it is in the 5th house, which is connected both to romance and to children. The ascendant ruler indicates an important area of life, it's like the thing that forms the foundation.Certainly, you seem to have good luck with children (and also art or creative activities). Venus is the most positive planet in a night chart, so you will experience many positive things with 5th house topics.Romance is a bit more complicated. Long term relationships and especially marriage are tied to the 7th house. Now, you have Mars directly conjunct the descendant, in the 7th house. This means that your partners may have very Martian qualities, especially because Mars is in Scorpio. This can mean aggressive and abusive partners, but not only that. Athletic, intense, passionate and tough partners are also possible. If you haven't had positive experiences with partners already, I think you will eventually have some, because Mars is in good dignity in Scorpio and in a night chart. I would expect there to eventually be a powerful and impressive partner, who is tough and passionate, perhaps blunt, but not cruel and exploitative. Did anything happen between your 30th and 31st birthday in this area? You had a 7th house profection then, so Mars related topics and transits must have been more impactful.
>>39551120>>39551355so he has good things, what about me?
>>39551363I have personally given you at least half a dozen readings. At this point I am becoming interested in your chart for different reasons, specifically, wondering what makes you such an obnoxious mentally ill pest. I can't really see an obvious reason why that should be so. Maybe it's your mauled Moon and Leo Rising? Perhaps the strong Mars and the Mars-Mercury square also make you bolder and more relentless in selfishly chasing your greed and disrespecting other people's time and effort.
>>39551355I appreciate the reading, anon. I've come across negative things regarding my Chiron placement but thank you for clarifying Venus and Mars for me. Yes, my birth time is from the hospital I was born at so it's as accurate as it can be. My partners in the past have been athletic, tough, and passionate to say the least but it seems to have emanated for me as, to be blunt, mental instability.I've had something of a lull romantically for the last few years, got ghosted a couple times, but between my last birthdays, I met a recently married woman who is falling hard for me but she's an emotional wreck and I'm not about being a homewrecker. She herself is very open about her mental health issues (bright green and purple hair also gives that away) and she always talks about her husband but then turns around and is practically begging me to save her from her marriage. It's nice to be "wanted" in that way I guess but I see it more as a symptom of instability rather than forming a genuine connection. My most intense relationship was 10 years ago and that one stuck with me, the passion was out of control and then it gave way to emotional and sexual abuse that I'm still somewhat traumatized from so I've had a very hard time connecting in that way since. Looking at my chart, is there a specific way I'd tend to meet positive relationships or is it more of a fate/it'll happen when it happens sort of thing?I really thank you for your positive reading, however. I see astrology as part of our makeup that compelled us towards patterns and circumstances, so I feel understanding mine better will give me insight into how to attract the most positive, high frequency emanation of Mars and Venus energy. At least that's my hope.
>>39548098time and place make circumstance viable. stars denote when and where/
>>39551450You have? I dont know which ones.I have my own theory on that, Scorpio Moon in control, but do you see anything positive? What can you see about these >>39548056>>39547933
>>39551315>I don't see myself as a victim but I'm wondering what cosmic impulses surround me that attract the type of relationships Ive experiencedGuide below>Libra Sun in the 6thYou will have to put in conscious effort to not be a doormat and people-pleaser in this life. If you act on auto-pilot you will always be temped to play nice and make everything perfect for everyone. This, however will not earn you neither respect not gratitude but instead turn you into a slave who's constantly aiming to please. It is much better to put in your care and ability for work and servitude into a passion project rather than a person for it to pay off in your benefit.>Taurus Ascendant, Virgo Venus in the 5th>Venus opposite MoonYou avoid discomfort and likely aim towards things you "like" yet simultaneously always end up situations that make you uncomfortable and you jump ship trying to avoid them. You will have to dethrone the reign of the comfort zone. Your desires and your well-being are not in synch, things that appear to generate pleasure will always have a hidden catch to them that will be cause disappointment for you or a "I didn't bargain for this" feeling. To stop this you need to start telling yourself "no" - no to all the impulses that temp you until you get a better understanding of what you're in for and if you really want it or not. A "sleep on it" strategy.>Scorpio Mars on DescendantReintegrate your aggression and assertiveness back into yourself. You have a tendency to project it onto others and delegate your personal willpower to them. You will keep attracting aggression from others until you own it. Also stop dating people who hate you or dislike you.
>>39551557ahem, please>>39536132
does this count as a king's star?
>>39551492>she always talks about her husband but then turns around and is practically begging me to save her from her marriage. It's nice to be "wanted" in that way I guess but I see it more as a symptom of instability rather than forming a genuine connection.Yeah that's a huge red flag. Not the same situation, but had a girl doing a similar thing coming onto me extremely strongly because she was desperate for literally any radical change in her life. She was never serious about us, just wanted to escape from her current life. Ended horribly and left me confused for years.Also, should I understand that you are a heterosexual man? NGL I had assumed you were a woman.>Looking at my chart, is there a specific way I'd tend to meet positive relationships or is it more of a fate/it'll happen when it happens sort of thing?I can't see any special clues here, unfortunately. Best I can do is maybe look at the closest aspect to Mars, which is the Moon. So maybe something to do with the 11th or 3rd houses - friends, social groups, extended family, siblings. Perhaps someone can introduce you.Also are you the musician guy who does gigs for cash btw? That 6th house stellium looks familiar. I think I may have given you a reading a while back.>>39551507>You have?Yeah, a lot. I saw you spamming your chart here months, maybe years ago, and also recently on /adv/.
>>39551581not really, but you could make a killer podcast or talk show.
>>39551589read my chart like you read his
>>39551613I literally already have, multiple times. Bet you didn't even save the readings. Bastard.
>>39551617read it again
>>39551492NTA but your Mars is on the 0th degree so there's going to be struggles involving those kinds of relationships. 0th degree energy is abundant but without guidance in my experience. Never really met someone I personally know with this placement that didn't have something else going on so I can't tell you much about it, but I've met plenty of people with Venus on the 0th.Venus on the 0th degree people are the kind of people who can binge basedjack political videos unironically. There's a sort of innocence to them. In some way that kind of innocence applies to the sort of struggles and challenges you encounter in life. Your Mars is otherwise in really good condition so don't let that worry you.Not to say that you are a perfect angel, but you may have difficulty navigating the struggles you face. You have to learn how to manage these problems. I'm unsure if it will be a persistent thing throughout your life.>ChironI'd be more worried about the Venus. You need to be utilizing mercury effectively to pull this placement off since Venus doesn't do too hot here and your mercury is in the 6th. Like anon said, you might struggle to communicate when people are doing things that you don't like in a relationship. You might also try and show your love in practical ways that others might not understand or appreciate.This anon is also correct >>39551557I've noticed that a number of 6th house people who don't have placements there because they're doctors tend to have some kind of issue with aggression from others in their life. There's usually multiple indicators.
>>39551626OK.Your 7th house is ruled by night chart Saturn retrograde, which is why you are an incel. Saturn also rules both the 6th and the 7th, and is placed in the 10th, so your potential partner may be an evil coworker girl, who will probably be a bratty know-it-all since Mercury is on the descendant. Your fallen Moon, enclosed by both malefics, is applying to an opposition with Saturn the ruler of the 7th house, so she will hurt your feelings and live in your head rent free. Because of your Pisces Venus, you will take your beating without complaint like a good dog and let her do whatever she wants. You will not be rewarded for that.Hope you liked the reading!(Disclaimer for GOD: I am just trolling a mentally ill retard a bit, and cannot be held accountable for any of his stupid thoughts or beliefs. I have already tried to help him in sincerity and he didn't care then, and has been quite ungrateful and disrespectful towards the posters here. Therefore, my actions are justified and hecking cute and valid.)
>>39551677Give me a real reading. Though Ive heard this before. Why am I an incel really? You said before the you didnt see a reason for me to be this annoying and mentally ill on my chart, so whats the reason?
>>39551706You tell me bro you are the obsessed schizoposter. I have told you before that your mental and emotional state is probably all messed up given the Moon setup, but you actually have some decent mitigations and being a schizoposter is a weirdly extreme case. I don't think there's a justification why you should be like this.As I said, you actually have a strong Mars, and Venus is mutually mitigating itself with your 4th house planets. Venus improves your Moon and Mars, and in the process is also redeemed from its 8th house placement. Your Sun is also actually kind of tough, since it is trining Jupiter pretty closely. Both your luminaries have both challenging and positive things going for them. This chart could have just as easily given rise to a tough, driven guy instead of a persistent whiner. It's never too late to get a grip and pull yourself together. Naturally, difficulties with romance are still indicated because of your 7th house and also the Venus placement (and its square to Pluto). I guess that might be it, actually? 8th house Venus squared by Pluto could make you obsessed with the idea of love in a deranged manner. Which might be why you keep obsessively spamming these forums. But at one point you gotta get a grip bro.
>>39551746I am too traumatized. Scorpio Moon rules everything now, never ending anger, indignity over any setback. I can't end the cycle. I have a mental set of beliefs that place each other as their owm support, if something chamged for the better I would improve and try, but if things stay the same then they continueI've done this for years, it will continue.So is there anything good in my chart? It seems like I would always have problems with women and romance even if I was a better me, so why try?Is this also right?>>39547933>>39548056
I've watched tarot card readings but never did anything like this before, what does this stuff mean exactly?
>>39551746even got a report that said it, it would always bean issue
>>39551677Zased... So freaking zased... I have given this anon many readings. He posts on more threads than what you've mentioned such as /div/ of all places.>>39551746His moon is maltreated. The moon has some special rules for getting smacked by benefics and malefics alike. Venus saving it like that doesn't mean much due to that. It's ruler also acts as a pseudo malefic. This guy has talked a lot about his circumstances and from what I understand he simply doesn't act and that's his problem. The moon acts malefic and it has a negative impact on every other planet it touches directly or indirectly. It interacts with most things in his chart.
>>39551846So you agree with him that being an incel and women not fucking me is something clear in the chart? Why would I act then?
>>39551846Oh, also worth noting is that the moon is powered up due to being within 3 degrees after the angle. Mars and the moon are also in the superior condition which means that they have more influence over that trine. That trine is bad in these circumstances. Conjunctions like that can also signify that the two planets work together for better or worse. Mars is dignified, but the moon is stronger since it comes after the angle rather than before.
>>39551902*Superior position, not condition >>39551856Silence nerd, astrologers are discussing the unique conditions of why your chart is fucked in spite of your benefics.
>>39551917benefics?
>>39551922Ze is retard
>>39551917read my chart
>>39551926I literally did this thread.>>39551922Venus and Jupiter.
>>39551931youre this guy? >>39547933why is there no good reading about relationships
>>39551780I am not gonna read other people's posts.I feel like you would fare well in difficult circumstances. Your Moon is in a tough spot but it's not without resources either, since it is received by Mars and also trined by Venus. You seem like a fighter and should probably try to break your misery streak by getting back on the grind.>>39551846I disagree, the Venus aspect really helps even the odds. It actually breaks the enclosure between Mars and Saturn, and also balances the damage done by Saturn. This leaves us with the Mars influence which is not as negative in a night chart, especially with reception (since both planets are in the sign of Scorpio).From the stuff you say about the Moon, it sounds like we have pretty different views on how condition and aspects function, too. Honestly, the more I look at it, the less awful it looks. Basically every afflicted placement he has is mitigated. The main difficulty is probably his Saturn, which is very negative in a night chart and is not directly improved by any other placement. Which sucks for anon because he seems to be the tfw no gf sort and Saturn rules the 7th.>>39551856>Why would I act then?Because, believe it or not, you deserve to live your life even if no mentally ill attention seeking e-girl loves you.
If a planet is in fall sign but in the best house for it, does the planet normal?
>>39551967not really, but it can help depending on the circumstances.
>>39551947I am extremely traumatized from childhood, I think 4th house, then Chiron.What I mean is, you very well know that not all girls are that, e girl mentally ill type. Read the chart, I need information, even if I was normal, women wouldnt love me even then?
Back again!Reply with your chart and I will give you a book, film, myth, deity, fictional character, famous person or anything similar that I think would be relevant for you to learn about based on the astrological energies surrounding you.Doing this for FUN. This is not a an offer to read charts or answer questions (unless it's something really interesting and I want to)
>>39551994>>39536132
>>39551977what are the circumstances?
>>39552013you are the one who should tell me that since the hypothetical example is yours
Is Pisces Mars 12th House an okayish placement or really bad? I know it's supposed to be bad because it means my chart ruler, for the Aries Ascendant, is in the worst house. But surely there's some upsides?
>>39551990It doesn't matter if you are traumatised from childhood, you need to stand on your own two feet and shake yourself off. And in your case, this is more imperative than in most others.No one can predict if no woman will ever love you with astrology btw. People who say they can do that are just too cocky.
>>39552058You can, this guy can >>39547933What does my chart say about marriage or relationships? I know Ill never have kids
>>39552098YOU ARE A BITCHLEAVE THIS THREAD
>>39551947I'm still learning, but my understanding is that the planets can be indicative of things in the natives life that are temporary. You should still read these effects but know that they will eventually be dealt with and that the negative effects can still happen based on example charts I've seen. It just seems that those issues have some sort of positive effect at some point. Just as a person can develop and grow and placements will bring different significations in the native's life. He has to get to a point where that Venus actually does something for him, and it won't if he never acts on it. Anon still lives with his mom who he claims abuses him. He hasn't acted on his venusian drives because of 4th house significations involving his home and country and his subjective perspective on his circumstances. This will be resolved if he does something about it as people have told him to, but he has to try first.Based on interactions I've had with him the road forward seems to be the joys of doing things for others. Potential 8th house interaction? Unsure. The node may be important for understanding as well.
>>39551799I was reading some stuff about my chart on the website and I think some stuff is accurate about being creative and artistic and a unique thinker who hates modernity and wants a brighter future for the world, but failing at ever sticking to anything. They then also get things wrong like I am a self starter who is very organized and professional. Interesting to see that some of it is generally correct though.
>>39552122In my view, aspects are always functional. That trine is definitely active for him now, even if we can't see it. Could be that it's acting suboptimally in some other way though. For example, I know a person with two very tight squares to the Moon, one with Saturn and one with Jupiter. This person is a lot more unstable than the Moon-Saturn square people I know, but they are also more sociable and do more stuff. Anon's case has the Moon hitting Mars, Saturn, and Venus. That's a lot of different types of energy - Mars is fast and harsh, Saturn slow and harsh, and Venus fast and soft. Hard to say exactly how this mixture works out for him right now, could be that Venus is pushing him to more emotional movements, whereas otherwise he may have ended up being more despondent and empty, or perhaps malicious rather than simply desperate. Hard to tell.
>>39552122>>39552168so?
>>39552168>In my view aspects are always activeI'm talking about things that represent aspects of the native's life. So for instance the stuff going on in the 4th is in a fixed sign. It's malefic influence is represented by by a singular situation that he hasn't moved beyond yet. Once he leaves it behind the things that it signifies will be more tolerable. They are the things that create the positive influence represented by the malefic. Malefics are seen as bad because they create undesirable situations. My Saturn is very well dignified, but it aspects my mc-ic axis, though not much else. It impacts a lot of my life, but it is the most dignified planet I have and represents the things I have and will overcome to become the best version of myself possible. I also have a tough moon-mars aspect in a fixed sign. It has to do with his mom's influence. Speaking from experience the houses these planets represent can become involved. In this case the 12th house becomes active in relation to mother. For me, the houses Mars owned were effected as a result. They were what I wanted to do. For anon this is both the 4th house and 9th house topics. 9th house is afflicted right now and it's why he keeps bothering people to read tarot and his natal chart. This will cease once he moves on with his life.
>>39552222Apologies for the late response, I'm on phone and on the road ATM so responses take a while to type out.Also I realize that my response is a bit biased from personal experience and what I've learned, but it is what it is.
>>39552257>So for instance the stuff going on in the 4th is in a fixed sign. It's malefic influence is represented by by a singular situation that he hasn't moved beyond yet. Once he leaves it behind the things that it signifies will be more tolerableWell, that's more exceptional because the 4th house also represents the upbringing and the parents, the role of which becomes more limited as time progresses.Although that Mars can still be relevant as pertains to real estate.
>>39552274I am the guy youre reading. My chart...I am reading the conversation and I am still confused. >>39552286>>39552257So I am not trying in life and thats the why? Real estate?
>>39552286Oh, to speak on the influence of Venus, anon will deny it but he has spoken about getting love interests before but he spergs tf out and thinks he has to do or be certain things first (be attractive, rich, etc.) He thinks people want him at the finish line and goes into incel reasoning. He lashes out at genuine opportunity because he thinks he is unworthy. He struggles to see / act on the opportunity that Life / Love is offering due to overthinking (?) things. I see this being a result of a number of placements, but I will leave you to come up with your own interpretation.
>>39552337Life gets better when you get away from your mom. Think about the times you were away from her. Did they improve?
>>39552337>So I am not trying in life and thats the why?BRO PLEASE JUST LIVE YOUR LIFE NORMALLY MAN
>>39551994>>39526198I'd love to hear what you find relevant for me
>>39552359Ive never been away. Maybe? Please read what I told you.>>39552368I need more information.
>>39552389I recommend: Blade Runner 2049 and Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus
>>39551994>>39536330
>>39552389>>39552542or Under the Skin if you want to get really weird with it
>>39536330I recommend:- analyzing the sculpture Ecstasy of Saint Teresa by Bernini- Denji and Makima's relationship from Chainsaw Man
>>39552542>>39552559Lmao thanks. Its the because of the mars-saturn thing? I'd relate most to blade runner
>>39552946Not just that. There is a lot of tension in the chart with heavy emphasis of alienation, a feeling of otherness yet intense psychological experiences. Any mad scientist trope would fit well.
>>39552607I find quite interesting how your second recommendation (Denji and Makima's relationship), kind of, relates to what this anon said >>39537018 about my chart. I must say that's how i always interpreted their relationship. Someone starved from "love", from connection, and, honestly, i can relate to that, to the point that i don't really think such thing exists. Doesn't help very much the fact that i was abandoned by my "mother" so yeah...I would appreciate any insight you have regarding that.Thanks anon.
>>39553152It's because I'm the same anon lol, sorry if I was rude in my first post I was feeling cheeky when I wrote it.But it all comes from the Moon-Venus-Pluto t-square, it's a very tormented configuration which requires a lot of re-working when it comes to love. Everything that has been soaked up by the initial formative mother-relationship must be unraveled and sown up differently for your pleasure-seeking psychic system to function normally. It's in mutable signs and in knowledge themed houses so you CAN learn through experiences, analysis, reworking and incorporation = wisdom. I recommended the sculpture because it deals with sudden unknowable "religious ecstasy" that has orgasmic undertones which is something you can symbolically experiences when you purify your aspects.
>>39553339Fuck, i knew it was you lolThanks for your insights anon.
>>39549210sorry for the late response>untapped potentiallmao you have no idea>greater introspectionyep>very famliy oriented/obsessed with nationyep>childhood maybe get in the way of your futurepainfully accurate>mom wasn't aroundAround, but not actively a part of my life. Would get annoyed whenever I left my room and "invaded her space">What's your relationship with travel / religion / spirituality?Always believed in "spiritual" stuff, even at my most anti-religion I still thought atheists were the biggest retards. I've always wanted to travel but lack the means toThanks for this, friend
I'm a gemini, I've been waking up, what's coming for me guys?
>>39553787All of the Cadent houses have a relationship, but the 3rd and 9th are the biggest ones, with the 6th and 12th typically relating to foreign things and certain outcomes. 12th house is activated by Jupiter, 9th by Chiron, and the 3rd has your major malefic and benefic in it.The third house would represent smaller, more local travels and it has Saturn in it.Ninth would relate to more over seas travel. Since you're going through your Saturn return as we speak you can expect for whatever restrictions you have in those areas to loosen up.These parts of your chart also relate to religion and spirituality, with the 3rd house relating more to rituals and things of that sort. Things that are done routinely, like festivals.
>>39553907I take back what I said about the 9th actually. I think it depends on the distance. So going out to another country, or even state if you live in the US. I'm not fully sure at what point travel goes from 3rd to 9th house, as they are mirrors of each other.
I'm tired. Being impressive and useful for my handlers would've been my only chance. It's too late for that now. One needs to serve.
>>39553907>>39553933Traveling is one of those "would love to, but not pressing" wishes. I'd much rather establish some real income and start a family than go globetrotting
How do I become the next Hitler
>>39553907Which reader are you?
give it to me straight wise ones, am i fucked? anything i should watch out for or be mindful of?
>>39554261There's a number of readers here. I have a trip for another general, but I leave it off for this place since no one else uses trips. I was the guy arguing with the Leo ascendant that asks people to read his chart where ever he goes. The worst part is I am almost positive that I was the first person to read his chart.
I finally understood what Mars in Pisces means. You really just want to make people think. To expand their imaginations. You are a spiritual, imaginative warror
Can I get a reading? Especially future predictions and what I should do in life.Thanks!
>>39554473Dropped my pic like an idiot
>>39554481>>39554473mercury pisces moment
>>39554298>Give it to me straight If you're a guy you're one of those relationships with women, sex with men types. Might be too intimidated by your Venus Mars to be a man whore though. A lot of trans women have placements like these where the Venus and mars are both in masculine signs. I thought I was imagining it until there was an entire section dedicated to men being gay / bi and potentially losing their nuts if this was the case.There are exceptions to every rule, of course, and I have noticed different patterns. Your Mars is an Evening star, so that may help balance it out.I can't recall the effect that this has on women, sorry.
>>39553817praying for you lol
>>39554255Guys I'm serious.
>>39554517>you're a faggot trannyyou sonnova bitch
>>39554517Honestly in this guy's case I don't think there's nearly enough to predict for anything lgbt. and I have a fairly good, general Idea of what I'd look for in that case. I know guys with Venus in Leo and Mars in a feminine sign and they're straight. I think you'd need a lot more for a prediction like that.However, I'm kind of interested in what you'd say about this chart since you've looked into the topic >>39526198
that's my solar return. any chances of gf this year or money?
>>39554514Can't even deny it
>>39554874it's ok I have a pisces mercury too
>>39554613I didn't say that. There are things to cancel such things out, but I thought it was funny and it's usually pretty accurate.>>39554644The prediction was made due to both mars and venus in masculine signs and Venus is in the 8th on a critical degree. Could go any way. Wasn't meant to be taken too seriously. That combination can make men more sexual iirc, as both are "active".>>39526198I have nothing to say about this other than that you have aries venus like me. Do we hi five each other now? Your Mars is in good standing and it's conjunct to the ascendant. Too much sex or no sex at all is the game.>Jupiter in the 8th, in Gemini ruling over the 5th houseLmao>Both malefics in opposition on the asc-dsc axis>Venus, which is looking like Yamcha from DBZ, rules over the 7th.Okay it looks like there is a shortage of partners, but you aren't taking no for an answer. You *WILL* get laid tonight. I can see there being some leniency here in approach, but I don't see it as something that necessarily comes natural to you if you wind up bi or gay.One thing worth noting is that having a placement like venus or mars in a place the ascendant can't access makes you prone to mistakes in those areas of life. Venusian activities already fucking suck for you, man. They take on Mars energy. They become warlike. How that manifests for you, idk, but relationships seem hell for you. On the bright side you may exude chad/stacy energy (Mars on the ascendant, about 3 degrees separating and becoming empowered)On the downside this is basically required because of what's going on in your household and community (perhaps bitchless)There are a lot of predictions I could make but these were the ones I felt most comfortable with. If you're gay/trans let me know what gender / if you're ftm or mtf
>>39554858>Jupiter in the 10th, which rules over the 2nd houseAre you not already making money? what the fuck are you doing?>2nd house ruler is transiting to 7th with Saturn and mercury>Mercury deals with your 10th, which also deals with your income>8th house ruler in 11th in CancerUhh... Unlikely unless you're trying to work wih finances but I do not recommend.lol?Your attention is scattered and you might be trying too hard to smash.
>>39554944I'm making more money than 2023, but I need way more
>>39554944Oh, I didn't even notice the part where you asked about relationships. Yeah, lots of effort being put in on that front. Saturn heads into Aries and you experience your Saturn return as well. 5th house is ruled by Jupiter, and.. you're turning 29? This year is a 5th house profection year, after your bday it's a 6th house time. You might want to be careful about knocking chicks up if you haven't already.
Whole Sign house retards should actually challenge themselves to compare charts amongat celebrities, etc. and see which aligns more. This is how we found out Sidereal was bunk. Placidus being default is valid, just as Tropical being default. Quit coping, retarded contrarians. So specialllll
>>39555020How about I compare we compare our charts together some time? Maybe a little oil? Two charts? Oil? Together? Oil?
>>39555009>You might want to be careful about knocking chicks up if you haven't already.nah, i'm a virgin
>>39555042Yeah, I just realized that the ruler of the 5th is in the 8th.On the bright side that Venus-Saturn conjunction is either setting up the 8th house return (needing to provide for others or something along those lines) or something else. Hard to tell.
>>39554913Thanks for the reading, that's pretty accurate. Bi male virgin. Relationships (platonic) are tough. Tried to get laid in high school then gave up and focused on college/career/art/hobbies for years, now trying to get laid again.>Venus, which is looking like Yamcha from DBZlolI do think I'm too much Mars and not enough Venus. I do try to be humble in the day-to-day, but I also feel super unfulfilled in doing that, but I find that's just the easiest way to get through the day, do what I need to do to maintain relations or make money, and then in private I indulge in my passionate fantasies.
>>39555037Yeah, Hitler's chart. Hitler's 1st house ruler is in the 8th in whole sign. That's a good sign of suicide if conjunct to a malefic, like it is, and a good indicator of his partner dying too since Mars is in exile ruling over the 7th.Need I remind you that they committed suicide together?Yeah, FLACIDUS says that this is his 7th house.
>>39555093Meant for>>39555020Yeah, I definitely trust flacidus, a technique that was invented over a thousand years after every meaningful technique was discovered. Definitely not funny how this technique supposedly invented by Ptolemy has some other guy's name, and how it suspiciously forgets what chart overlays for.Even these techniques, which are the closest thing they had to flacidus (and is actually recreated from!!) just don't seem to work! I wonder why!
>>39555020>placidus
What do you make of me, anons?
>>39555137There are an EXTREME number of examples where you take celebrity charts that are full of 10th house placements, take them to whole sign, watch those 10th house placements disappear, many times even completely disappear. There are examples of rich people having their lot of fortune in the 2nd such as Elon Musk, but then in Whole Sign, it changes to the 3rd. There are examples of very weak, non-aggressive people having their 12th house Mars shift to a 1st house Mars. I even know people in my personal life who are extremely aggressive that all have Mars in the 1st, but then switching it to Whole Sign made it make no sense. Hell, I have my Mars in the 10th in whole sign which makes no sense to my life whatsoever. My Uranus and Neptune are in the 12th in Placidus but they switch to the 1st house in Whole Sign.
>>39555505>durr it looks ugly therefore it's wrongSimple and pretty doesn't equal true
>>39555608This nigger thinks the 10th house means anything in terms of real fame. Hey retard. Look at Donald Trump's chart and tell me how many 10th house placements he has. Can you tell me where Trump's massive wealth indicators are? :) Because I'll tell you right now that you're looking in the wrong places and that Vedic would be able to tell you the answer.
>>39555630KEK You didn't bother looking it up before writing this reply to me? Trump has his Sun, Uranus, and North Node all in the 10th house in Placidus. Guess what happens when you switch to Whole Sign? They disappear.
>>39555649ANOTHER THING TO ADD, His jupiter is literally in the 2nd. You Whole Sign retards are allowing me to further prove my point. I already wrecked one retard in a previous thread a while back listing a shit ton of examples and he could barely provide me one.Right there, fame and wealth, continuously demonstrated consistently throughout Placidus.>>39555630
>>39555649Yeah, and emperors and people actually solving issues (different from the royal family for instance) have 12th house stelliums. Guess what vanishes in Placidus retard.>North Node is in 10th>This somehow is supposed to mean something to me>Not taking into account that Trump has a lot of really big fixed stars like REGULUS conjunct to both his Mars and Ascendant>Not taking into account what's going on with Leo and Cancer in a Leo Ascendant chart where there's a fucking SOLAR ECLIPSE happening>Not taking into account that the guy was basically in the background of everything for YEARS before he exploded, a classic 12th house signification of being in the background doing shit for othersAbsolute retard.
>>39555613actual retard
>>39555660>>39555649My brother in Christ there is nothing unique about his Jupiter placement, in fact that's a pretty weak Jupiter for finances since it's ruler is in the 12th. This would be indicative of opportunities for money, but it's not as impressive as the ascendant and sun conjunct Regulus.
Any insight on how my life may play out from here on? There's a girl at my work who I've developed feelings for and I'm wondering if something will come out of this? I just turned 30 and I'm beginning to develop a strong urge to begin a family of my own, otherwise I feel like my life will be meaningless. Any reading or astral advice would be appreciated.
>>39555020My Vedic chart is actually much more accurate than Placidus. Whole Sign Tropical is the best.
>>39555685You buffoon, you're missing the point entirely. This is a very consistent finding within Placidus. I even went through and demonstrated many examples of this in a previous thread just to show how consistent it was. With our understanding of the 10th and 2nd house, it shows up extremely frequently within famous people, especially the Sun in the 10th house placement. These placements will often completely vanish in the Whole Sign chart. If you're trying to demonstrate consistency within Whole Sign, anyone is welcome to do it, yet have yet to do so as frequently. >"people solving issues have 12th house stelliums"That is also the first time I have heard that uttered about 12th house placements. If you can demonstrate consistency with more than two or three examples, feel free. With our understanding of the 10th and 2nd house, why would those placements be consistently absent in celebrity whole sign charts yet show up so frequently in celebrity placidus charts? Explain why that is. Must we now change our understanding of these house placements? This should be a clear indicator of our understanding of house placements being tied to Placidus. Literally nothing you have said has done anything here.>>39555703Explain why that is "impressive". Can you demonstrate consistency with any of this or are you just talking interpretations? Prominent 10th house and 2nd house placements are very common in those with celebrity status within the placidus house system. Consistent findings, what and where are they for Whole Sign?>>39557417That could be personal bias and ego. Examine the charts of close ones, celebrities, etc.
>>39557794>That could be personal bias and ego. Examine the charts of close ones, celebrities, etc.No it isn't. In the first place, astrology in any form is a type of divination. It can work across systems. But it's pretty clear to me that tropical whole sign is supreme,
