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Thanks for baking!

Wow wtf I was waiting all day. Seems whenever I want to make a post in a general anywhere on the board, it's never up. Thanks for making the thread.
Last night I tried SAT's for the first time, and I woke up to my voice or I believe it was my voice not gonna pretend it's some le demon, telling me that manifesting my desire won't work and it struck real deep. I think something inside me is sabotaging myself because many years ago I manifested wealth easily and then some fucking stupid reason my brain told me this is too easy and I lost all of my money. This is a common occurrence in my daily life, for some reason I am constantly self sabotaging things with women and other things. Please help me there is something gravely wrong with me

I am an Elf.

Cult Anon here:

I'm going to be meeting the family of a architect convert. Here's hoping I can convert their family or at least have their family buy in as customers to my occult services business.

The architect convert themselves will design our commune once we are ready to buy the land and begin construction and to live in it as a group.

All in all my cult has grown and have connections that can be used.

Also at least 5+ different people and groups of people have been arrested trying to overthrow the govt in my area. The sheer volume of people trying to take a crackshot at the ones up top is nuts but a good sign of where the wind is blowing.

My plans are as follows: Bring more people into the fold, gather resources (currency, materials, etc.) and more connections.

I will get more converts, I will get more clients for my occult services, I will invest the money I earn into the stock market and other businesses to get more cash.

I have adopted an anti-work or work-as-play philosophy and I will not work a grueling 9-to-5 job for a living. Instead I will read tarot cards and other spiritual stuff for a living. It's surprising how many people are willing to have a person read their fortunes or do spells for them despite it being illegal here.

I will also start implementing more spiritual programs for cult members since we've grown to bond them together and to have them go further into the spirituality/philosophy of the cult.

There's tons of other things I'm forgetting to mention and will mention them as I remember to do so throughout this thread.

Feel free to ask questions.

>>39575537
I would recommend reading some self-help books and to try to improve your self-concept by constant positive affirmations, ignoring the doubting voice, and other methods.

Just keep doing the positive affirmations to let it sink into your head that this doubting voice is nothing more than your old habits trying to win you back which you shouldn't feed any energy into.

>>39575537
You could brainstorm or give yourself therapy but an even easier way would be just imagine yourself not having those thoughts at all... Just a merry happy guy that doesn't struggle with self sabotaging

>>39575587
Positive affirmations got it
>>39575637
It hit me like a brick I've been doing this for so long. Have to stop

Not a single person manifested brand new body/vessel. Even in UL, where the supposed most advanced manifesters are, have at best manifested 10k

>>39575537
That's just a genuine auditory hallucination anon. Are you being an epic le /x/ larper or are you diagnosed as being mentally ill?

SATS does not create tulpas or anything like that

>>39575725
You mean like a full new body like I wake up and I look like Goku?
How would you even prove you did this? Are you trying to start genuine conversation or are you just shitposting?

>>39575537

grow some balls and say fuck it to that voice.

>>39575752

Not like Goku. I'm talking something like, you're 25 now and would wanna manifest your 15 year old vessel to optimize puberty better or just get more time looking younger

>>39575725
>Not a single person manifested brand new body/vessel.
Seriously. If you can manifest anything why wouldn't you be a gigachad or hot woman?

>>39575791

It feels like I'm the only one trying to do this

>>39575764
Well how would someone prove this?
It would only be true from that person's pov.

Anyway, SATS in theory should be capable of doing this, the problem is getting past your subconscious mind saying "time travel isn't real" then there's being monkey paw'd because unless you're specific the universe opts for the path of least resistance and you could end up seeing that in VR or through looking at pictures/videos of you at 15.

Astral projecting into a reality where you're 15 and severing the connection to your body in this reality would work but that's a lot more work on an entirely different skill.


>>39575791
If that's what you want you instead use SATS to manifest a world that perceives you as a gigachad, where people treat you like one and comment on your appearance that you're hot etc. Your own appearance will subtly change to fit your reality. This is standard stuff anon.

>>39575825

I'm not talking about time travelling, i'm talking about materializing your 15 vessel in 2025

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Last 3 days. Steady progress with biokinesis.

>>39575871

you'd have way faster results with 1500kcal a day and 10k+ steps

>>39575871
Are you specifically manifesting biokenesis? I manifested myself skinny, I just woke up one day and saw/realized I was skinny. Didn't do any dieting either. Now I eat whatever I want and always wake up the same weight every day. You do get skinnier in each of your photos though, that's for sure.

>>39575791
>why wouldn't you be a gigachad or hot woman?
Aren't you already?

Threadly reminder:
>"loa is just a mental outlook technique" retard
>"loa doesn't work" retard
>"lil anon is a vampire" retard
>"loa is just magical thinking yet I'm still here" retard
>"loa is just pseudoscience" retard
This is likely just one retard or it could be several retards, it doesn't really matter. Just hide their posts whenever you see them, don't waste your attention engaging them. Spend your time practicing the law, or if it doesn't work for you, then try something else. Don't waste your time

Discuss the law, ask questions about the law, don't engage with retards

Before discovering manifestation, the only sexual interactions I had with women were prostitutes. I was basically lesser to a lonely virgin male, somehow. Cursed. It didn't matter how many online dating apps I signed up to, or how well I danced in nightclubs or how many hours I spent in the gym, I simply had no action. Then my life slowed down and I bought a house and at some point discovered these threads. I began practicing various techniques and repeating affirmations. All of a sudden, I'm bringing women I barely know home with me. Effort is certainly required, though not too much and it all feels natural. I'm fairly handsome, in an attainable sort of way and I'm not picky in the slightest, so I am spoiled for choice. Fast forward to today and I'm in a casual relationship with a much older voluptuous lady, a younger co-worker is cheating on her boyfriend with me and a girl I knew from school is now pregnant with my child. None of them know of each other. I don't know if they will and I do not care. It doesn't matter. In my early twenties I always thought I'd have a monogamous relationship with some local girl who I'd then marry and have kids with. I legitimately think I was born with so much karmic debt that I'm not allowed such a simple life. Instead I feel as though I have stumbled upon some cheat codes that have allowed me to shit on this entire system that restrained me and punished me for being a naive, well meaning kid. I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing. I will leave my seed where I please - unprotected. No woman has ever requested I put on a condom. I don't know why. It doesn't matter. Nothing matters.

>>39576567
Congrats on getting what you wanted anon, what next?

>>39576567
Holy fuck this is me. Well at least the first half is with the boning of prostitutes across my 20s. What were your affirmations and for how long did you do them?

I'm currently doing affirmations as well. My goal is to find a nice girl with giant tits and have kids with her. Raise a family. Got a huge tiddy lawyer off Hinge but then that bitch unmatched me after I made a joke (wasn't even racist/sexist), but that's a good thing really, if that's all it took, means there's someone better for me.

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>Every problem automatically produces its solution in the form of a desire to be free from the problem.

>Therefore, turn your back upon your problem and focus your attention upon the desired solution by already feeling yourself to be that which you desire.

>Continue in this belief, and you will find that your prison wall will disappear as you begin to express that which you have become conscious of being.

>Look upon your desires as the spoken words of God and every word of prophecy of that which you are capable of being. Do not question whether you are worthy or unworthy to realize these desires. Accept them as they come to you. Give thanks for them as though they were gifts. Feel happy and grateful for having received such wonderful gifts. Then go your way in peace.

>When you drop your desire in consciousness as a seed, confident that it shall appear in its full-blown potential, you have done all that is expected of you. To be worried or concerned about the manner of their unfoldment is to hold these fertile seeds in a mental grasp and, therefore, to prevent them from really maturing to full harvest.

>Don’t be anxious or concerned as to results. Results will follow just as surely as day follows night.

>Have faith in this planting until the evidence is manifest to you that it is so. Your confidence in this procedure will pay great rewards. You wait but a little while in the consciousness of the thing desired; then suddenly, and when you least expect it, the thing felt becomes your expression. Life is no respecter of persons [Acts 10:34; Romans 2:11] and destroys nothing; it continues to keep alive that which man is conscious of being.

>Things will disappear only as man changes his consciousness. Deny it if you will, it still remains a fact that consciousness is the only reality and things but mirror that which you are conscious of being.

>>39576567
OOC, how much effort do you expend? i know of guys who have claimed that with LoA they pretty much go out (going out, of course is effort) and have women falling all over them

>>39575875
>1500kcal a day
this comes from the mistaken belief that you have to suffer to lose weight, but the weight loss you desire can be yours, look into ray peat

>>39575815
There's a lot of people trying that

>>39575825
>Your own appearance will subtly change to fit your reality.
Needs to be a lot more than subtle in my case

>>39576198
I'll believe it when I have a vag

>>39576715
It has the feel natural and you have the pick up on the signs and look out for opportunities. Sometimes a cold approach is going to be expected of you. Sometimes a woman will literally just start talking to you about something after you accidently nudge into each other. The key is to recognize opportunity, pick up on signals and to not force destiny.

In the first night I failed but I learned something. I kept writing out the same phrase leading up to the night I was going out alone. "I am having sex with a big, busty older woman tonight" or some shit. I coupled that with visualization each night as though I already had what I wanted. The night came and I headed out. At the first bar, I was sitting around alone a lot. In the next bar, I bought a drink and sat in a smoking area. A boxing match was on so I used that as my reason for being out. A woman, a bit older than me, accidently nudges into me and I end up talking to this random woman and her friend for ages. Neither of these women are big or busty. At some point, a big busty blonde woman wearing blue walks past. These two women I'm speaking to actually know her and talk about how much of a bitch the lady in blue is. I made the mistake of trying to hook up with one of these bitches. Now I know I was suppose to use that interaction somehow to get to big blondie. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Don't force destiny. Don't harass anyone, but also don't give up.

>>39576608
You have to visualize already having what you want too.
Affirmations can be almost daily. Repeat as much as you can. Whatever time of the day. Write it down. Speak out loud. Put up post it notes in your bathroom mirror. Do whatever works. Try out other shit too. Sigils.
"I am growing stronger and building muscle every day."
"I am physically attractive and radiate confidence."
"I am confident and open to meeting new women."
"I am cleaning my home every day."

>>39575175
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>39576867

No one's trying to manifest a completely new vessel, their 5-10 younger vessel, at best people do better looking face/hair

>>39576898
interesting. so how did it happen when you were successful, then?

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I am the abyss
I am the dying meadow
I am life

>>39576953
At a work party, which I very nearly didn't go to, the male co-workers I was with, the guys on my team, basically ignored me. Admittedly I'm not the most interesting guy to them because I don't play video games, they're not my actual friends and I don't want to accidently say something racist around them. So I let them stand in the corner and talk about their lame shit. I instead stood at the centre of the room and just hung around until I found myself standing in circles of groups chatting with co-workers I didn't often talk to. A female co-worker, who I had maybe 4 conversations with previously, approached me and asked how I was. She gave me a hug by the end of the conversation. Not long after I found myself in conversation again. We basically spent the rest of the night together. It was beautiful and I just went with the flow. This stuff just works.

>>39577025
Bottom line with this experience is that there was already a rapport that was merely built upon.

>>39575725
Wait who says UL is the most advanced they're a branch of this... That's like saying the Jehovah witnesses are the most advanced christians

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I am the abeyance and the apotheosis

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I am the stones which sing
I am at the edge of perception
I am the final vector

>>39576185
I use affirmations, which I believe my subconscious hears, and my subconscious controls biological process. That's how biokinesis works.
I only try manifestation for things outside the direct reach of my body, like love or wealth for example. But I have been focusing on biokinesis for now.
Still, since biokinesis seems similar to loa I post here.

>>39576948
>No one's trying to manifest a completely new vessel
Why do you continue to assume that?

>>39577134
>Wait who says UL is the most advanced
It's frequently stated by UL practitioners that they have the last step in the road.

I don't know that's necessarily true, since I made it to the end simply by knowing that I AM, but it could be argued so since that is the point of UL through all the crazy explanations.

Why do so many gurus (such as Joe Dispenza) say that there are limits? I can't reconcile the two groups of believers. Some believe you can change a lot, but not everything. Other people believe in permanently reality shifting to fictional universes.

>>39577614

Because they have no clue what they are talking about, so they throw things at a wall based on what they know (or don't know) and see what sticks

If it ain't UL/non-dualism/oneness teaching, then it will always have limits, because you need to know exactly how reality operates for you to understand that there aren't limits

>>39577614
>Why do so many gurus (such as Joe Dispenza) say that there are limits?
Because everyone is at a different place in the path. Neville was learning as he went, so when he taught in the beginning he was speaking the words he was taught by others. In time he was making his own miracles and had a different perspective.

In the same way, these "gurus" have to overcome their own limitations. Most often this happens as overcoming it in certain areas and not others until a more complete awareness is achieved.

Remember that these people are not here to spell it out for you- they are telling you that they have experienced some things and you can too. Go find the edges, I think you will be surprised.

>>39577465
Intake voluminous vitamin C by citrus fruit and safe nightshade
fast until 4pm and ideally limit intake to one meal of fish and legume and one snack of fruit and nut and olive daily
discover a means to dilate your pupil to allow maximum sunlight to enter your mind
This is what you must manifest

>>39575175
How do I manifest 10cm of height? 1cm a month? Surely one fucker must have done this before

>>39577722

A version of you being 10 cm taller already exists, no need to wait a year to get your desired height

>>39577614
There ARE limits. No one can do >>39575725
No one can fly. No one can stop ageing. No one can make objects burst into flames.
There are no examples of anyone doing these things with LoA because they can’t do them. If they could do it they would. Any LoA guru that could would be the next big thing,
>>39577636
Neville didn't do any miracles that I can recall,. Which miracles do you refer to?
Once again you fail to try to make it look like the actual people teaching this are not as good as you even though they are not afraid to show themselves. They earn a degree of trust because they are not anonymous liars. You make claims but display nothing. You cannot be trusted.

>>39576634
Is this applicable to SP manifestations?

>>39577906
>LoA guru
lol

Where my watch-manifesting niggas?

<p3> here

>>39577906

Flying, stopping aging, new vessel already exists in potential so it's nothing special. you're putting it in a pedestal because other people havent done it, which means you're clueless how reality works

>>39577959
Show me a single LoA authority besides you that has aged at half speed. Or anything else obviously supernatural.
>>39578007
No one has done any of it with LoA. Where are the examples? In the OP we have Neville, UL etc and none of them do any of this.
You are basing this assumption on what exactly? Some words that have nothing to back them up. The only facts we have are what the people making the claims can display. There isn’t really anything to go on.
You can claim that you have infinite powers but the ‘reality’ of LoA is always far more mundane.

>>39577906
>There ARE limits
What are the limits? Who sets the limits? It's clear to anyone who isn't an idiot that there cannot be any limits. Does that mean everyone can now fly instantly? Obviously not.

>No one can fly. No one can stop ageing. No one can make objects burst into flames.
And you know this because you know everyone who has ever lived? Because they haven't showed up in front you? Why would someone who can do all that want to prove themself to some idiot who can't even figure out basic metaphysics?

>Any LoA guru that could would be the next big thing
The next big thing? Can do anything but wants to be some loa guru? This is an idiot level over 9000 tier remark

>>39578068

No one has done it because no one has even attempted any of this, then you need some crazy beliefs for it to be possible so you don't doubt yourself (means no limits)

people only care about sp or money

And why would you care if anyone did it? If i wanted any of these things i'd go and manifest them

I've had success with the timeline shifting techniques

>>39578078
What can you base it on then?
I see very little reason to believe someone telling me they can fly.
Now if they demonstrate it then that is great. It’s possible.
>Why would someone who can do all that want to prove themself to some idiot who can't even figure out basic metaphysics?
Bizarre statement. Basic analysis of the evidence available shows me no flying people. Are they out there? Well they sure don’t appear to be. I can however see billions of non-flying people.
This is the sensible approach. There are people teaching LoA. They show what can be done. And it’s not a lot.
Crazy claims are without basis.

>>39577751
Where do they exist and how do you get to or become them? Do you have the slightest thing to back this up? This sounds more like reality shifting than LoA anyway and that’s even dumber,

>>39578176
This would be Lilanon tier if it wasn’t intended to be a shitpost.

>>39578174

Creation is finished, it's Neville. Everything is already finished by UL if you want deeper understanding

beyond time/space but contains all time space = contains your current vessel and contains your 10cm taller vessel both. so "I, universal line, now become my 10cm taller vessel"

>>39578125

things don't become possible when you see proof. otherwise there would be no pioneers, inventors etc. things become possible before they are realized

>>39578097
Post what you did and your experiences. Give me maximum info Anon I need out of this timeline also.

>>39578097
>shifted timeline
>still here
Curious.

>>39578210
This would be the new timeline no? I did it with a trivial thing it's not a drastic change by any means it also came in a very reasonable way
>>39578206
I changed two incoveviances i was having at work just by intention and snapping my fingers, i haven't had a drastic change or far fetched manifestations yet but i want out of this reality as well.

>>39578367
So if you did this again in theory you could no longer update us as you would be in a different reality.
Reality shifting is funny.

>>39578203
They invent based on things that can be proven though.
You make a telephone then you have the underlying basics already proven. The electrical signal, the wires that carry it, the speaker and the receiver. It’s all proven and it requires these physical things.
With this you have none of that. In fact if you try to think through what would be required for a man to fly then it becomes even more comical. He has no wings so what does he do defy gravity? How does he do that? If he goes to high he will freeze? How does he breathe at height? How does he slow down?
Inventing uses things that you can build from or can demonstrate. Even the wheel or fire came from noticing things and then repeatedly using them.
Posters like Lilanon have to go out of their way to not show things because their story would fall apart if they had to demonstrate anything.

>>39575537
>Wow wtf I was waiting all day. Seems whenever I want to make a post in a general anywhere on the board, it's never up. Thanks for making the thread.
step 1: copy the contents of the OP from the old thread
step 2: copy the name of the old thread
step 3: link the old thread number
step 4: find a relevant photo (doesn't even have to be relevant, case in point is this OP)
step 5: complete the captcha
step 6: profit

>>39576359
brush up on your loa lore faggit, lilanon was a vampire but decided he wouldn't be any more

>>39577906
lilanon PBUH ages at half speed, but even he can't fully stop it… you might have a point there anon

>>39578590
I don't even know what i did, it could be called anything, it's certainly not like how you're viewing it right now it's more of a seamless change.

I guess you could try it and see for yourself that's the only way to prove it really.

i want a girlfriend with big nipples, i want her nipples to be humongous, massive and just stupidly large. i want to suck them, lick them and fuck them.

>>39575725
Don't know about brand new, but i'm in my pre-2020 vessel now. I did not look like this 3 months ago, and I'm virtually unrecognizable in photos from a year ago.
Age lines, loose skin, liver function everything has reversed itself. I have the energy and vitality i used to 5 years ago. Even my hair has reverted to its healthy thick texture from back then. Down to the exact weight I used to be, everything is like that. Side effect is my migraines are worse like they used to be, but it's not a problem (manifesting it away).
Everyone in my 3D has acknowledged this too, where my coworkers seem to forget my 10 years of work experience and are assuming i'm fresh out of college. Friends keep commenting on it. My own family is baffled.
But you're not going to believe this or are gonna start nitpicking, so what's the point of asking?

>>39575815
The fuck of it is i wasn't even trying to do it. Somewhere down the line without me realizing, one of my affirmations about looks changed from "i have a youthful face" to "i am youthful". It just transformed my whole body to a younger one.
I've said it before in these threads - everything comes when you give up trying to force it, so don't try manifesting it, persist until it becomes subconscious, and let it take care of itself

>Captcha: AJNA
>you can't make this shit up

Hey gods, what did you manifest?

>>39578784

I believe you actually. I was just wondering if anyone is doing something like this, new vessel brand new body since I have never seen someone manifesting that

>>39575175
Thread seems interesting, been listening to this kind of audios before sleep for winning lotto. Any other advice to try and win?

>>39578800
Apparently the gods manifested mother anon as the place just was not bad enough without him.

When I was younger in primary/high school I didn’t care, didn’t try, and didn’t bother. Despite this, I was somehow accepted to a prestigious university where I once again didn’t care, didn’t try, and didn’t bother.

I now have a successful career, where I haven’t really put in a lot of effort. Still, I received excellent performance reviews and promotions. I have a beautiful wife, who sort of just appeared in my life and now we have an amazing family which I never really expected to have.

I don’t mean to boast, because I have truly done nothing to deserve this. Am I just incredibly lucky? I don’t know. I’d consider myself to be above average intelligence, but certainly not a genius or anything that would explain why things are so easy. I have an extremely active imagination and spend a lot of time in my own head. I’d guess this lends itself to an innate understand of the law without realizing.

For the past few years I’ve been extremely depressed, because if I don’t deserve this and haven’t done anything to get it then what’s the point? What’s my purpose? Why are others suffering when I am not?

I desperately wanted answers to these questions. Then I found LoA, Neville, and these other related works and I feel like I’ve found them.

I’m not a guru. I’m not an expert. I don’t know what I’m doing. But if I have all this, why not you?

>>39577929
It's applicable to everything. Be confident and live as you already have what you desire. No need to think about how to get there.

help me depedestalize my ex LoAbros
i need to beat this last boss

>>39577033
yeah but many LoA success stories are like that. water flows down the easiest path, it's just how it works

>>39579089
why do you pederastize your ex loa bros?

>>39578960
What was your childhood like?

>>39578078
>idiot level over 9000 tier remark
1000%

>>39578182
>if it wasn’t intended to be a shitpost.
Who cares if it's intended to be a shitpost- it's possible, and the people who have a desire aligning to that can do it. It's possible to inspire people even when joking...especially when joking?

Subconscious is a second cause. "You" cannot reach G-d.

>>39578607
>They invent based on things that can be proven though.
LoA can be proven. The obsession with having someone else do it for you is ridiculous though. Use the scientific method and get working

>You make a telephone then you have the underlying basics already proven.
A lot of inventors build things and then figure out what they stumbled over later. The underlying principles were there but they were able to do it without even being aware of those.

>With this you have none of that
You just don't understand it. You say you've never seen a plane in the sky so they don't exist, and it's not possible to exist because we don't understand the mechanisms that would allow for airplanes. You're just someone that's never actually gone out and looked at the sky and claim to have surveyed the evidence.

>Posters like Lilanon have to go out of their way to not show things because...
...I have no responsibility/obligation to relieve you of your ignorance. There is no desire to convert people here, and it drives you crazy. Believe or don't- your participation or lack thereof makes no difference in the Law.

>>39579279
Pretty unremarkable. Average American middle class Catholic upbringing. Is there anything specific you’d like to know?

Again, my post wasn’t intended to convey any sense of superiority. I am not special. I am not better or worse than anyone else here. Anyone can have what they want, so long as they learn to let go and trust things will happen.

>>39579342
You can’t have more than 100%
His post was stupid but I understand why it’s a problem for you to have posters say you can’t do what you do.
This is because you cannot do any of those things so you need a way to try and avoid the truth.
Just stop larping, it’s easy.

>>39578683
>lilanon PBUH ages at half speed, but even he can't fully stop it…
Why do you assume that? I did the first part before I knew the law and it was a simple wish. I don't see a reason why I couldn't fully stop it or roll back to a younger age if it would be to my advantage.

>>39579374
I can see planes quite regularly. I can’t see any flying humans. They’d make the news too. They aren’t out there.
>You say you've never seen a plane in the sky so they don't exist
They do though. I can see them.
You need to work in whatever it is you are trying to say. I think you are attempting (poorly) to create an reductio ad absurdum argument.
That would not be valid anyway.

>>39579352
It’s not possible to use your crown chakra to become an immortal elf. What drugs are you on today? That’s not LoA it’s a shitpost.

>>39578784
>The fuck of it is i wasn't even trying to do it.
The occultists in this thread put too much emphasis on the deliberate actions because for them it's ego based. It must be infuriating that we can have results they can only dream of because we had an idle thought that wound up popping into "reality."

>>39579382
I just wanted to see if it was positive/peaceful or not, since that would be conducive to having a good mentality since childhood. Middle class American Catholic sounds pretty positive.

I'm the exact opposite of you, very neurotic, whole life I "tried" hard and keep getting fucked every step of the way, quite unlucky overall. Of course since I found out LoA I'm trying to work on it.

Can I manifest a gender change for myself?

>>39578960
>But if I have all this, why not you?
It's a matter of allowing. I was always trying to prove myself to others and it caused problems for me. I also wanted to be the best at everything, and I did decently in that regard. I wanted to know the secrets of the universe and they found me.

>I’m not a guru. I’m not an expert. I don’t know what I’m doing
You're doing it right is what you are doing- the occultists here mistake "mastery" of LoA as being in command of all things. It's actually getting everything you want without having to do anything special.

You're the real "master" here, the rest of us are just trying to get out of our own way :)

This video shared in the previous thread, from dan pena, is very good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbZlA_VWG5g

>>39579458
No but Lilanon says yes.

Hey I'm P1 (participant1) and as you know I'd like to make an experiment to see if several people together can manifest faster, or in a more consistant way.

We are already 3 people who are going to participate to this project.

We are going to manifest an anon among the participants being gifted a watch, out of the blue.
We'll use SATS to manifest together.

If you want to join us please reply, it would be great if there were at least 5 participants (we are 3 for now)

Seeya soon !

<P1>

>>39579479
Damn he’s so angry.
He has a lot of money though so I may believe some of it, but this is the law of attraction rather than law of assumption I think?

>>39579435
>It’s not possible to use your crown chakra to become an immortal elf. What drugs are you on today? That’s not LoA it’s a shitpost
Read the picrel
>You are a God. Believe in yourself
>I am
>I have
>You have the same ability as me if you accept
>We create reality
>Prayers rule
>Not LoA?

>>39579458

>>39575175
>> Can I manifest ___?
>Yes! Creation is finished.

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I've been manifesting a GP and I'm seeing her start to form. I think I got an idea of how I'm going to meet her.

https://youtu.be/J1evxk1SB-U?si=CHx1huKdyGpyhdm5

>>39579508
There is a level where it’s just stupid and becoming an elf is quite some way past it.
Your version of elf might not even be the same as every other elf. What madness is it you live with daily?

>>39579524
I think Elves may very well be real.
All manifestation comes from God.
Mark 11:23-24.

God can make an entire race of Elves which has existed long before you desired to be one. He lives outside of time.

Just as God can make your GP which you asked for in 2024, be born many years before 2024.

>>39579430
sure buddy

You can ask for something today and God can move the entire course of history before your desire even formed, just to make it so that your desire occurs.

>>39579534
I just checked the entire Bible and there are no elves/elfs.
>Mark 11:23-24.
That mentions prayer which isn’t LoA as its prayers to an external god. You are not the operant power in that quote.

>>39579419
>His post was stupid
Yes, it was. They continue to be

>but I understand why it’s a problem
No you don't. If you did you'd understand why his shtick is so stupid.

I don't care if anyone believes what I post here. He is asserting that things are impossible because he has never witnessed them.

He's so stuck on "impossible"(nothing is impossible) that he doesn't even know what possible looks like.

>>39579561
Marriage is a picture of Christ and the Church.

>>39579555
But I don’t want god to do it, he’s not real. I want to do it. If he was real I disagree with him on some fundamental points.

>>39579567
You're most likely having a misunderstood view of him.

>>39579561
God's creativity can extend beyond the Biblical Text.

Most of the Bible already happened. We're in Revelation 20 most likely.

>>39579563
I can’t believe you can become an elf or teleport.
Is that a problem with me? I don’t see how. If there are people that can do it then I would expect it would have been noted at some point.
I think the balance of probabilities point towards you not being able to become an elf or age at half speed by just wishing it.
You age ageing at the normal speed right?

>>39579572
I don’t know, I checked the Bible and he says you can’t eat shellfish. A lot.
I disagree with this.

>>39579592
You're accepting a worldview which necessarily puts you in the audience rather than as the main event.

What if you're a pioneer in that you started to teleport?

Allow yourself to break new ground. You have such a defeated way of thinking.

>>39579555
This is the most important concept people seem to be missing when they ask “when, how, where, why” in regards to the manner in which their manifestation will come to them.

>>39579598
Jesus disagrees with this directly.

He said it isn't what goes into your belly that defiles you, but what comes out of the heart.

I believe in this book based on the Resurrection of Christ, not the plagues of Exodus. I'll throw out any and all of the Tanakh if I have to.

>>39579584
Revelations is apocryphal and not real. It’s not trustworthy. It’s the Lilanon of biblical texts

>>39579613
You can’t just believe some of it and throw out the bits you don’t like.

>>39579617
Maybe it is apocryphal, I know numerous early church fathers disputed it.

I'm going to dive in and see what the canon should actually be after I finish this Apokatastasis document.

If Revelation is apocryphal, that does make things more mysterious right?

Jesus says that Kingdom comes without observance but also says that he comes with the clouds.

There's definitely something to look into here, a truer canon to parse.

>>39579624
Yes, I can.

Who says the Tanakh wasn't glued on?
Who says the Jews didn't appropriate Jesus because he was anti-demiurge?

>it’s a Lilanon can become an elf episode
I wish he’d sort out his character class. under normal rules you generally stay a vampire even when resurrected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTMFBYXmvMk

this should be mandatory viewing each thread.
fuck the sigils part, ignore it if you don't believe in it
but there's so much based esotericism to this entire worldview i can't recommend this video enough

>>39579435
>>39579508
>>39579534
>>39579561
>>39579598
>>39579592
what the FUCK is happening in this thread

>>39576948
>No one's trying to manifest a completely new vessel,
Lol what about all the anons trying to become anime girls, or >>39579458

>>39579665
we're believing for bigger things now.

>>39579665
Yeah this thread is terrible already

>>39579601
what new ground have you broken, anon?

>>39579635
vampire isn't a race dummy, you can be an Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orismer, Falmer, Maormer etc. and still contract vampirism

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>>39578770
>want big nipples
>want to [....] fuck them

>>39579710
please excuse m*theranon, sex is a theoretical concept to him

>>39579506
yeah he goes right to the point lol.
He's talking about affirmations, so it's LoAss.
And you can see in the room he's teaching high level people, so I guess he's got some success.
But it could be totally fake too, everyone and their dog can fake anything nowadys on yt.

>>39579693
whatever I say comes true now.

>>39579722
even if you were to become a flying elf vampire?

>>39575791
Emile Coué, who is the father of LOA, said you can manifest anything you want, provided it is naturally possible.

>>39579371
>"You" cannot reach G-d.
>G-d.

We have to go through a rabbi first, right Schlomo?

>>39579592
>I can’t believe you can become an elf or teleport.
Why is your opinion relevant?

>Is that a problem with me?
Yes. You're wasting time here obsessing over people having success here when that could be you.

>If there are people that can do it then I would expect it would have been noted at some point
It has been noted. This is how I know you don't get out much.

>I think the balance of probabilities...
You're going to pretend to know how to probabilities work now?

>You age ageing at the normal speed right?
What's the "normal" speed? When was the last time you saw someone age exactly the same way as someone else?

Your "science" retardism is ridiculous. It's like you've never had anything other than book knowledge and superficial contact with other humans. It's almost fascinating- what's it like not getting down and dirty with humanity?

>>39579501
P3 checking in

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>>39575791
tons of guys report manifesting relationships/women. who cares about being a gigachad if all you're after is an attractive woman in your life

>>39579708
Thank you, logic fails are hilarious but happen to often with mr serious troll

>>39576942
>Whatever time of the day. Write it down. Speak out loud
Like this anon? >>39576944

>>39576942
>>39579775
FWIW when i had motivation to do affirmations all day at my office job (not constantly, but literally any time i felt even a twinge of doubt, so hundreds of affirmations per day), i got my manifestations within days

>your subconscious mind knows what you want
Ok so why so I have to go through all this complicated and long process to get it ? Sats, affirming for ages, despair, etc. Why my sib doesn't give me what I want? Is it some kind of trolling or something ?

>>39579785
you don't have to affirm for ages. see >39579780

you just have to get into the sustained feeling of having it

>>39579785
>Ok so why so I have to go through all this complicated and long process to get it ?
Because you are getting in your own way.

Your subconscious wants you to have everything you want. All of it. Right now. You are the one who says what, when- you are the captain.

When you are unsure or have doubts or other beliefs that run counter to your desire, your subconscious will do what comes through most strongly. Secretly don't believe you should have it? You don't.

>>39579767
>who cares about being a gigachad
Some Anons in this thread have a need to socially stand out, something that tells everyone that they are a success. The woman is only part of the story for them, and quite possibly not the most important part for them.

>>39579382
P>>39579506
>>39579759
Hi P3 hope you're fine, let's wait a bit for some more fellows to join us. The watch is en route already.

>>39579805
I don't have doubts about if I want it or not, i have doubt about if i will ever get it or not since my sub doesn't give it to me as soon as I want it, despite it knows i want it. Why? Why does it require me to prove I do want it, since it already knows I want it. Nonsense.

I'd like to ask for advice refining and improving upon my technique.
So far I've managed to get a really cool job using SATS, but didn't keep up with it and fell back into a negative thought patterns. Eventually I had a nightmare about being laid off that manifested almost 1:1. Does typing out affirmations have the same power as physically writing them? How does the scripting method work?

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Experiences on manifesting, and sharing knowledge of LoA, with other people?
I do believe on the TriumphantGeorge catbox txt, there was a suggestion to make a "mastergroup" with other people to aid each other in manifesting. Last thread some anons got the same idea, Ctrl-F for <P1>, <P2> and <P3>.

>>39579861
Oh. Speak of the devil.

>>39579739
No.

>>39579901
I hesitate to post this because the last thing this general needs is more negativity and doubt. I wish you the best of luck and hope you’ll report back with your findings.

That being said, I feel the absolute worst thing you can do is share your desires and manifestations with others. If you alone have the power to get what you want (which you do), then asking others to help you is admitting to yourself that you don’t have this power.

he sounds retarded if he thinks "siri, create the earth" is some deep psychological metaphor and not just stupid sandpeople trying to provide an inferior metaphysical alternative to the greeks

>>39579874
>I don't have doubts about if I want it or not
Want is irrelevant. Do you have it, or will you?

> i have doubt about if i will ever get it or not since my sub doesn't give it to me as soon as I want it
See above

>despite it knows i want it
It knows what you want, you have to be clear in what you believe should happen.

>Nonsense
Read the material and try again. You're fighting with yourself when you should be getting into a better relationship with yourself.

>>39580020
You do raise a good point. I still have some doubts about the concept of EIYPO - everything is you pushed out - hence my idea. Might try it out at some later date. But I feel it'd be better to resolve this question first.
Regardless thanks for sharing your opinion.

>>39579708
I was under the impression that Lilanon worked under old school AD&D rules, not Bethesda. There’s something in his lore that conflicts but I can’t rremember what it is right now, he just keeps making up more shit.
>>39579771
>logic fails
There’s no logic with you, you are at the level of a disabled child, you are not a flying ex-vampire elf who can teleport and ages at half speed while having a three man threesome, you were not tutored by Lilith. How do you manage to type that shit without laughing at yourself? You are cringe.

>>39580020
>>39580160
Both based thinkers.
>>39579755
>Why is your opinion relevant?
As far as the opinions of faceless ousters who haven’t met each other yours is the least valuable one because it’s full of complete nonsense.
> It has been noted. This is how I know you don't get out much.
You won’t see any flying elves no matter how often you go out.
>You're going to pretend to know how to probabilities work now?
There is a 0% chance you are spiritually enlightened.
There is a 0% chance you were a vampire and then you were not.
I could go on but I recommend you change your trip to Zeroann.
>What's the "normal" speed?
Based on what is posted here you are mid to late 40s or something. I expect anyone meeting you gets your age right.
>It's like you've never had anything other than book knowledge and superficial contact with other humans.
Regrettably I have to work with humans and deal with 5he, day in and out so I don’t get the advantage of your daily life of running into elves that fly and teleport. Lmao, you fucking larping joke.

>>39580270
>change your trip to Zeroanon
Sorry, typo. I was probably laughing at you too hard Lilanon. Your powers just do that sometimes. The gods fear you obviously.

>>39558712
>it's the lack of confidence in yourself and your world that is killing you, right?
Read this yesterday and thought to myself—ses it is and I think I had a theory that overthinking is a byproduct of something else. Go on...

>Have you tried letting it run without playing into it yet? Just observing without judgement?
I have, I do find myself entertaining them to be frank. Its like I get magnitized to them, like I need to "logically" prove whatever thing wrong or just play out the whole scenario in my head. The times I have entered a semi mindfulness state it feels like thoughts are just background noise a bit playing really close but not really paying too much attention

>common quote to people when they what-if too hard.
Really fond of your quote, I guess its a unlearning process to stop doing the whole what if analysis in my head

>You deserve every blessing imaginable.
My dad did follow up with me eventually, although he left me a bad taste—he did point out I shouldn't focus too hard or at all with complaining or whatever issue I have. I already knew I complain too much sometimes, overcritical at times but to have EIYPO come out and tell me "hey you got this issue" validates I need to stop. On a more positive note he did mention that I should focus moving forward and the times I'm idling I should at least relax. Crazy he even knows my ass is infused with chaos

> you know you can change now because you ARE now.
It does make sense, I worry about the past or future NOW, I imagine things NOW, I decide if I want a redhead NOW and so on. I will follow up with what I wanna say more on this realization but I wanna see if I could comprehend it better

There is one thing I did find odd yet believable—how do I know its only my imagination and not "reality"? Like could it be my own imagination things are the way they are today?

>>39579710
it is possible.

https://xhamster.com/videos/giant-nipples-in-planet-6397959

>>39580270
>As far as the opinions of faceless ousters
So you know your opinion is irrelevant. Noted.

>You won’t see any flying elves no matter how often you go out.
What occult communities have you hung out with? What have you done to get outside your comfort zone?

>There is a 0% chance
There is no such thing as 0% chance. If you actually believe that you have no scientific credentials, if you don't believe that it's the most low effort trolling I've ever seen

> I expect anyone meeting you gets your age right.
I've already posted about this- I am regularly mistaken for a bit over half my age.

>Regrettably I have to work with humans and deal with 5he, day in and out so
Hmmm...I don't think you work with many humans. And you certainly don't make time to go look for oddities. Odd for a person on /x/, don't you think?

>>39579901
>Ctrl-F for <P1>, <P2> and <P3>.
P1 here :-)
Please feel free to join us if you want to be part of the experiment. I'm sure we can manifest more easily if we are several people manifesting the same thing.

>>39579780
The same affirmations or did you have to put a spin on them? Did you have to visualize? Would you mind giving some examples?

>>39580069
>It knows what you want, you have to be clear in what you believe should happen.
Thanks Lilanon. So, it knows what I want, and it still requires me to believe I got it?
If the sub was a real person, and this person knew what I want and doesn't give it to me, I'd think this person is a psychopath lol.

>>39580020
>I feel the absolute worst thing you can do is share your desires and manifestations with others.
If he believes it is not a problem, then it is not a problem

Any tips on building faith/confidence? I may have successfully manifested getting food, but attempts at other small things after fail, I think due to my lack of belief of them occurring. Once I can successfully manifest small things over and over I can use it to increase my confidence and scale up the manifestations, but I'm struggling even having the faith to manifest little things. Any advice? Thanks

>>39580310
>>it's the lack of confidence in yourself and your world that is killing you, right?
>Read this yesterday and thought to myself—ses it is and I think I had a theory that overthinking is a byproduct of something else. Go on...

This guy has great videos about confidence issues. Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCeO-IP_T-Q
And this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqlhRFUYCM8

>>39580310
>There is one thing I did find odd yet believable—how do I know its only my imagination and not "reality"? Like could it be my own imagination things are the way they are today?
I did a thought experiment today while I was out shopping for groceries. Instead of looking at people and trying to understand them, I stepped back and said "all these people I see, could I be creating all of them, like I do in my dreams?"

>>39580458
>>39579785
The subconscious has many parts. Some parts know your deepest desires, and worst fears. I've had dreams so beautiful and beyond my imagination, I was shown things that I never knew i desired. Other parts make your heart beat, etc. Some parts might know what you want, but other parts might know that you don't deserve it, so it doesn't come true. The other side of it, is that your worst fears don't come true either.
I dont know why it works like that, but it seems to work like that.

>>39580458
>Thanks Lilanon. So, it knows what I want, and it still requires me to believe I got it?
It's a safety mechanism, and "You" are doing it. Your subconscious will give you anything you think about, good or bad. You have to discern what is good for you at a given moment.

example: You get mad enough at someone and wish them dead. Your subconscious doesn't care that there may be consequences later, just know you want to kill that person at that moment. Dead. Now what?

>If the sub was a real person
The sub is a deeper part of you, but that's more advanced work. Start with relaxing on the parts of you you are aware of right now.

>and this person knew what I want and doesn't give it to me
You have to be sure in what you want. You had a meal today, did you not? That wasn't hard to decide on, was it?

> I'd think this person is a psychopath lol
The waitress is waiting to take your order and you can't say it clearly. Totally her fault for not delivering.

>>39580470
If you are struggling, stick with what works and try to build off that.

If that isn't working then go the other way- manifest something huge and crazy that you don't care one way or another about, maybe for someone else? I frequently find I can manifest for others more easily than for me.

Whats the longest a goal have taken you? Just entering year 3 for mine. Staying strong and consistent though :)

Does someone know this girl? She's the first person I see in the LOA field on yt who doesn't sell anything. And her advices are very good, it looks like she has some experience in the topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wZYzrKJfdM

>>39580573
More than a decade for some of mine, but I didn't know the law at the time.

Did you manifest it as happening now or in the future?

>>39580478
Ill look into it
>>39580483
>"all these people I see, could I be creating all of them, like I do in my dreams?"
But im in the right ball park right? It seems thats how I snub myself. Lately I've had some small things happen after imagining them and it comes either exactly imagined or almost.

What prompted you to do the experiment and why?

Are beliefs just thoughts repeated and accepted as true or is there more to it?

I want a mentor to teach me LoA in my dreams until I understand it enough to succeed at manifesting. If that mentor appears but gives me solutions like, become rich and famous first, does that mean it isn't a true mentor teaching me? How do I discern a true teaching?

>>39580557
I guess i'll try to briefly visualize something helping someone else and repeat it as a mantra for a bit, will see if I can make myself believe it'll really happen easier

>>39580608
A decade? Damn.

Yes, now. :)

>>39580608
Question for people knowledgeable on SATs, I can visualize kind of, as in I can imagine a scene and imagine how it feels to be there, but I lose it quickly and it's never in vivid detail.
More importantly, do you just need to loop the scene until you feel the satisfaction, and then can stop looping and sleep with it? I'd been trying to loop the scene so I sleep while doing so, but could never fall asleep that way.

>>39580447
>The same affirmations or did you have to put a spin on them?
same one, over and over. i would close my eyes and wait until i had the basic emotion of "this is taken care of." once I did, i let it go and thought of something else. sometimes it might take me seven tries, because you have to allow ZERO negative thoughts permeate. simple-but-hard territory.

i also stopped the affirmations beyond when I was at work, just to give myself a rest, and it didn't seem to be a problem since I was no longer thinking about the problem in a negative way after 8 hours of vigilant affirmations

> Did you have to visualize?
nothing beyond visualizing big ideas like the color white, or peace/harmony. basically none

>Would you mind giving some examples?
yeah I had a co-worker who was a bully and I would affirm that the universe had the perfect solution for each of us. within day 1 of the affirmations he didn't show up for work, and by day 3 i found out he quit.

happened to me a second time, but in this case it turned out i was the problem, not him. so basically i realized he was just trying to be talkative with me and i never had a problem with him again despite him staying. again, worked basically instantly

another example, I healed something with my eye, but the results weren't immediate because I was worried. But I spent three hours, literally three hours like a maniac, just affirming healing. that was all I did and within a week or so the problem gradually went away.

focused persistence with a single-sentence affirmation until you feel 100% the problem is solved RIGHT NOW + letting go and thinking about something else

if you want more, look up Emmett Fox's The Golden Key. 1-2 page essay and it's basically the method I was unknowingly using.

>>39580748
Nta. This is in no way attempt to mock you or troll but .. why not affirm you have lavish income without having to work instead of micromanaging co-workers?

>>39580748
>>39580447
i'll add: Emmett Fox says something about "how you feel when you affirm will be your proof." that's how good the affirmations should feel. you should feel like you have the thing you want right now, as you affirm it, like you can see through time and it's as good as yours, to the point of feeling a sense of gratitude to God for answering your prayers in the present. if you can get to that state, you will basically solve your problem right now, because you have the feeling of the problem solved and we all experience life in feelings anyway.

(it's not THAT hard, but i've had times where it didn't really work and it's always because i didn't quite get to 100% and i still had the feeling of "this is a thing i want" rather than "this is a thing i have right now." really wait in this moment until you feel 100% that you've got your thing, and then you can change your mind's subject and relax)

>>39580810
no problem, it's a good question. this method gains simplicity but requires intensity. you gotta stick to each affirmation until it feels like your problem is completely solved, right now. if you give it 99% and fade out after a few days because an anon on 4chan said that's how fast he got his results, then giving up becomes the negative affirmation and you're not giving it 100%. i've tried it a few times and if what i want isn't really that pressing, it becomes easy to succumb to the 3D and say: "okay, i'm gonna stop"

the manifestations listed above were also "easy" in the sense that the solutions were as simple as a change in perspective or a gradual healing, nothing that couldn't have happened otherwise.

except when the bullying co-worker quitting instantly. that was a mindbender of a "reality is not what i thought it was" moment. i couldn't believe it when i heard he had quit

>>39580850
So you just repeat affirmations to yourself like "X is dating me" as if it's happening, and repeat it until you "feel" it's real, like emotionally? Just curious on specifics.

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>>39580850
>nothing that couldn't have happened otherwise
This is something I've noticed too, I usually fail and feel frustrated when the thing manifested is so 'out of context' that I simply cannot feel natural about it. I think the only solution to this is what's been mentioned in one of the previous thread: What if we assumed life was dreamlike and wacky things DID happen? Then the unnatural becomes natural.

>>39580443
Stop trying to claim there are flying elves. Get help.

Aren't flying elves just fairies

>>39581007
I think Lilanon claimed some association with the Fae once so fuck knows but when I check the archives I actually find him directly claiming he knew several werewolves and has incubi powers.
He is the hardest larper known to man. He must wake up each day in a a constant state of larp readiness. His larp list knows no bounds. He has to be making total shit up every minute of every day. He is the law of larp.

>>39580939
Was there ever an update on cousinfucker?

>>39581020
>He is the hardest larper known to man
Or...I actually had the brazen impudence to believe in things and they actually happened, and you are too busy pretending to be "sane."

Scary thought, right?

>>39580735
on state akin tos?

>>39581179
at least you admit to being insane

People doing affirmations, approx how long did it take you to see results, and how much were you doing them?

>>39581232
I did 21000 affirmations (I counted them with a clicker counter) and saw no results, but I think it's because I robotically affirmed, the sammy ingram way, and it didn't sound believable to me.
I think I'll give it another try, with less affirmations but add a little bit more feeling to them.

>>39581179
DONT listen to tripfags. Ask yourself, what kind of person willingly staples a name to themselves on a forum where there is no award for engaging in such a manner?

DO scour the archives for a good helping of constructive discussions, around 2019 to 2021 timeframe. Read the information libraries, read Goddard. But for the love of Christ do not post or engage in these threads, especially with this fucking idiot. He's a larping schizo, anyone worth their salt wouldn't spend countless hours swirling over a thread like a vulture.

You don't need to have anything clarified by some fat, larping faggot.

>>39581292
21k affirms but over how long a time period? Day, week, month?

>>39580615
>But im in the right ball park right?
From what you've told me, you are more in the ballpark than I am, or maybe you are in a different part of the ballpark. You get your answers from outside, I get them directly to me.

>It seems thats how I snub myself
Well, at least you are getting an answer, silence is harder to fix. I do wish you would treat yourself better though :)

>Lately I've had some small things happen after imagining them and it comes either exactly imagined or almost.
Nice :)

>What prompted you to do the experiment and why?
I wanted to really *see* around me and see if I could get any cues that I was doing it. I didn't feel anything strongly yet but after someone posted Neville's thing about a year ago about how you animate things around you(breathe life into it) by interacting with it I saw it happen in real time. A woman was walking down the street, she was ordinary and seemingly a zombie, but I looked at her and she kind of lit up and smiled at me, and we had a nice conversation.

I suspect I am not getting one or more of the main concepts of EIYPO because I don't like the idea, but I AM trying to understand it.

>>39581419
I think something like 15 days, 20 min per day

>>39580683
Now is good, that means no additional delay. All that is left is your expectation of how long you think it should take. If you feel like that is too long, make some mental adjustments and manifest again for sooner.

>>39581232
Originally or now?

>>39581388
>no award for engaging in such a manner?
Did you just shoot down your own argument?

>read Goddard
Good recommendation- have you tried it yourself?

>You don't need to have anything clarified by some fat, larping faggot.
Then what are you doing here?

>>39581537
Kinda based response actually

>>39581496
Both if youre fine sharing

Can LoA/affirmations help me develop lucid dreaming? I've had 1 or 2 in the past few weeks of trying but no consistency

>>39581388
Based, I support all anons who hate lildickfag. I await for the day he finally dies of old age. He's still unable to stop or slow the most basic function of all life.

>>39581625
Before I knew the law, my parents were big new agers. They had me trying to do it and it didn't work for me(didn't know about the belief part). Later I learned words of power as an occultist and it worked pretty well and immediately for me if I didn't overthink it- I was able to believe that because it was "occult."

I can't really count when I learned the law, because after I did and before I lost my progress I would simply believe something would happen and it would, no need to affirm.

How much was I doing them? I was doing them endlessly when I had no belief behind it. When I do have belief behind it I can usually set something in a day or two of 5-10 repetitions 2 or three times.

Don't count this as "usual"- I have been affirming my white whale for weeks, and while I have seen some progress in getting the pieces together I have not had the main affirmation set yet.

>>39581643
Anon I'll say from experience biggest game changers for lucidity was image streaming as #1 technique. 1000x Better than literally any old shit ie dream checks and writing down dreams. But also get in the habit of spending time mentally awake but not moving the body, and with eyes closed. You can meditate or even just daydream. Even better if you do this right before sleep.

When you guys write you affirmations are they in present tense or do you do them in past tense to live in the end?

Reading the thread got me thinking. What do you think is the "end state" of the Law of Assumption? What would a perfect mastery of the Law even look and feel like?

Now I am ignoring what others have written about the law and taking it at its simplest meaning: "Whatever you assume to be real, is."
Taking this question to its practical extreme - and I do mean extreme - to me it'd be something akin to omnipotency. Whatever you assume to be true, instantaneously shews itself to be true.
Assume the sky is red, you'd look up and see a wine-red sky up above; assume you got a million dollars in front of you, money literally rains down on you; assume so-and-so loves you, you'd get a text message from them confessing their love to you. What stands-out to me in this thought experiment is the hows and whens. Now such an omnipotent being could absolutely controls the how and when, but let us say they decide not to, what does? I assume beliefs :^)
From a more spiritual point-of-view such a being might very well "integrate" itself into God, become God, or perhaps even realize its true identity as God.

I'd be glad to hear what you think.

>>39580444
Thanks for offering lad, sadly a bit too busy right now. If you're all still doing the experiment or a similar one in a month or so I might be able to join and assist you all.
Nice trips btw

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>>39579665
Kek

>>39575175
I literally dont understand anything about this
I've been visualizing and imagining/feeling what i like to have my entire life, but im still a 33 yo incel loser

>>39582136

you mean you've been telling yourself that you're an incel loser for as long as you remember but you're wondering why it doesn't work? kek

>>39579652
>but there's so much based esotericism to this entire worldview i can't recommend this video enough
what do you like about it?

>>39582136
>I've been visualizing and imagining/feeling what i like to have my entire life
But did you believe it, or did you believe you didn't have it?

>>39579780
>FWIW when i had motivation to do affirmations all day at my office job (not constantly, but literally any time i felt even a twinge of doubt, so hundreds of affirmations per day), i got my manifestations within days
I think this might be a good explanation as to why some people get better results with constant affirmations, and some people get better results with fire and forget. Or why the same person might get different results in different areas.
If you are thinking about something and doubting it, that messes up the manifestation. I think most people would agree with that.
If you can just think about it once, have full confidence it will happen (or just not care), then you won't doubt it at all, and at some point it will happen. THis is why forgetting about it can help, because then there's no way you can mess it up.
You think about it once, do a really good job in that session/attempt, then forget it. So you quit on a win.
However, what if you think about it, doubt yourself, ask yourself "Why is it not here yet?", and worry, etc... Then it would be smart to add more fuel to the fire, because you are taking wood out of the fireplace with those doubts.
So like you said, every time you have a doubt, do another affirmation. And eventually you will overcome the resistance within yourself and it will "just happen".
The problem with this approach is that maybe you are manifesting out of fear or "forcing it". I can certainly have that problem, and when I recognize it, I have to stop, mentally re-adjust, and then continue on again with a more calm state of mind.
If you can do that, then I think constant affirmations will make it more powerful.
If you are fucking it up, and manifesting it sideways, or adding doubt, or adding worry to it, then doing constant affirmations (the wrong way) will mess up your manifestation. Because you are worrying about it.

>>39581800
Bengston method (images cycling), a good one yes, and funny btw.
The only method that has been validated by peer reviewed studies. It should be added to the OP.

>>39582310
>If you can do that, then I think constant affirmations will make it more powerful.
>If you are fucking it up, and manifesting it sideways, or adding doubt, or adding worry to it, then doing constant affirmations (the wrong way) will mess up your manifestation. Because you are worrying about it.
So on the basis of this logic, the two best methods would be:
1: fire and forget, if you did it right the first time, assuming you really can just forget about it, and that you did the first manifestation right. This is hard though, since if it doesn't arrive, you will naturally think about it and wonder "why isn't it here yet? did I do it wrong? is it not going to happen?" So you'd only really be fine if it didn't happen for a while if you just didn't care. And manifesting things you don't care about is kinda lame and sucks all the fun out of it.
2: Constant affirmations, again assuming you are doing it right (and not just adding doubt, or fear). This can overcome the fact that you might worry about it (and thus counter-manifest your wish) because you overwrite that worry/doubt with a new burst of true confidence and energy. I think it also makes it more powerful over time. It can just get more and more powerful. The problem with this approach is you ARE constantly thinking about it, so the possibility for doubt to creep in is higher. BUT, you can think about it constantly if you want, and you can manifest things you actually want (rather than not caring).
Not caring is probably the easiest way to manifest, but that's like a self-defeating cheat code. It works, but who cares? It's lame.
The worst way to manifest would be constantly worrying. Or doing it once, but doing it wrong that one time so it was never going to work.
I would say a good rule of thumb is "Check in on your manifestations every week. If you don't see any signs at all that they are closer, or are happening, redo your manifestations".

>>39581998
>Thanks for offering lad, sadly a bit too busy right now. If you're all still doing the experiment or a similar one in a month or so I might be able to join and assist you all.
If this gets traction we'll probably do it on a regular basis to help anons who need it. Good luck anon and thanks

>>39582343
>I would say a good rule of thumb is "Check in on your manifestations every week. If you don't see any signs at all that they are closer, or are happening, redo your manifestations".
and also "pick things that are measurable and obvious"
Set a time limit for a week. If it didn't happen in a week, call that a fail. Be honest with yourself. Start over, try again. Maybe go back to something that's easy and works for you.
Then build your way up, more and more.
The reason you're not getting the "Big thing" but you can do the small things is probably resistance. So also look at that. Do revisions or affirmations and see if any resistance pops up.
If you can't do big things or small things, you just suck at magic, and you're not putting enough energy into it. Or you are just massively self doubting and don't really want it to happen, because you don't want magic to be real.
The way to overcome that is to do it as a joke. Many atheists have tried magic as a total joke, no respect, and it works and surprises them. Then they try it again "more seriously" and get worse results. Because they did it as a joke, they weren't trying "too hard". They just did the technique and it worked.
That's the best way. Just do your thing, and it works.
If that doesn't work, then it's probably resistance. Then do shadow work and find out WHY you won't let yourself be happy. Or win, or heal, or get the girl, or whatever. It's always you holding yourself back.
find out why, and then unwind it.

>>39579785
>>your subconscious mind knows what you want
>Ok so why so I have to go through all this complicated and long process to get it ?
because you are a pile of contradictions, like everyone else.
You want it, but you hate it. You want it, but you think you don't deserve it. It seems enticing, but what about the long term consequences???
Those self doubts and second guessing is what weakens your resolve and counter acts your desires.
The long complicated process is only necessary to condition your subconscious mind that it's all okay, and there's no need to resist any more. On "small things" that you don't care about, manifesting is extremely easy.
On "big things" you do care about, manifesting suddenly becomes hard. Why? The thing you're manifesting doesn't matter, it's how you FEEL about it that makes it difficult or easy.
Why is difficult? Because of you. Why is it easy? Because of you.
>Why my sib doesn't give me what I want? Is it some kind of trolling or something ?
More like "protecting" you from something you think you want, but really you're afraid of deep down inside.
The conscious mind is capable of all sorts of self deception because it is more intelligent. The subconscious knows better.
The subconscious however, can get stuck in deeper emotions, which logic shows is self defeating. It doesn't care. The subconscious feels what it feels. So it cuts through bullshit and is more "Honest" than the conscious mind, but also it gets stuck in emotional thinking.
Unite them together, and they can help each other.
The conscious mind can help the sub out of emotional traps (overly emotional), and the sub can help the conscious mind out of bullshit (overly logical self deception).

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Some ideas I'm posting from last thread, which I thought were useful
"I believe XYZ will happen" can be counter acted by "I don't deserve it"
So you need to add "I deserve it" too
But also, is it good? "What if it's bad?", well then add "And it is a good thing. Isn't it wonderful?"
What about "I shouldn't have this?" Now add "I should"
What about "I can't have this?" Then add "I can have it, easily"
This can go on endlessly though. It feels like playing whack a mole.
The last one I added which really seem to cut to the core of all this is "I let go of anything within me that resists this. I let it go, and I stop resisting. I accept this fully"
And maybe that's really the most powerful one. But maybe that's just for me, right now, based on where I am in my journey

So to recap we have:
"I believe XYZ will happen" or "I am experiencing this" or "I have this, and I enjoy what it feels like to have it", this is the classic manifesting idea. The rest is overcoming resistance.
"And I deserve it"
"And it is a good thing. It's just great"
"And I should have it. It's good for me to have it"
"And I can have it easily"
but also, as a catch-all (because really we could be here all night listing every possible self-doubt and affirmations to overcome them): "Anything within me that resists this, I let it go" or "There is nothing within me that resists this" or "I accept this fully, in all its forms, short term, long term, emotional and mental, I believe this will be very good for me. There is nothing to be afraid of."

>>39581467
>you are more in the ballpark than I am, or maybe you are in a different part of the ballpark. You get your answers from outside, I get them directly to me.
Prolly just different points of climbing the same mountain. Though having the answers through an individual than the outside is more beneficial. I still contemplate meanings, when theyre simple and straight to the point then its no problem

>I do wish you would treat yourself better though :)
Genuine question: What do you see that makes you say that? I've asked myself why do people even bother with me in the first place, what makes 'me' appealing to some and others not?

I am a my biggest critic so its no surprise––perhaps im overlooking how brutal I can be thats leading me to ask this question of mine.

Actually after reading the first chapter of Freedom For All––there was a part saying something about feeling guilt brings condemnation and feeling lack brings poverty. Prolly have a belief like that and I saw it in action last night with my roommate...thats fucking crazy. Same with the robbing God part

>A woman was walking down the street, she was ordinary and seemingly a zombie, but I looked at her and she kind of lit up and smiled at me, and we had a nice conversation.
Ok now that sounds both intriguing and something I would LIKE to happen more often. I just don't understand why I am equally as dead as my surroundings, I do think it does work for me when I choose to, I'll try this out too and see what I get

Prolly explains that real time manifest a while back

>EIYPO
It was easy to digest for me but at times I life pretend that we're separate.

>>39582420
>"I believe XYZ will happen" or "I am experiencing this" or "I have this, and I enjoy what it feels like to have it", this is the classic manifesting idea. The rest is overcoming resistance.
>"And I deserve it"
>"And it is a good thing. It's just great"
>"And I should have it. It's good for me to have it"
>"And I can have it easily"
I am going to try this with my white whale with a few tweaks

>"It is a good thing."
>"I should have it."
>"I deserve it"
>"I can have it easily"
>"I have it."
>"Isn't it wonderful?"

Good job Anon. :)

>>39582389
Lilanon and you really helped me figure this out.
Thanks both of you for your reply it all makes sense.
From a simple question like why my sub doesnt give me what I want if it knows I want it, I now understand why, and it makes m love my sub even more :)
Thank you for protecting me from myself, my sub.

>>39580817
>(it's not THAT hard, but i've had times where it didn't really work and it's always because i didn't quite get to 100% and i still had the feeling of "this is a thing i want" rather than "this is a thing i have right now." really wait in this moment until you feel 100% that you've got your thing, and then you can change your mind's subject and relax)
if you do go far enough to reach that state, do you need to do affirmations often? You said you did your affirmations many times every day. Was that something you set out to do from the beginning, or you only did more affirmations when you felt doubt creeping in?
I'm just wondering if I should go "all the way" a bunch of times every day, or try to keep it casual and just think "Yeah I have it. This is great. I have the thing. It is right here" short and simple. I have the feeling I should just do a casual one, but maybe the other way works better.
Maybe I should be going all the way, and do that a bunch?

>>39582702
>if you do go far enough to reach that state, do you need to do affirmations often?
pretty often, i did it every time i felt even a twinge of negativity. i was relentless, allowing zero negative thoughts and even worries to sprout
>I'm just wondering if I should go "all the way" a bunch of times every day, or try to keep it casual and just think "Yeah I have it. This is great. I have the thing. It is right here" short and simple. I have the feeling I should just do a casual one, but maybe the other way works better.
worth experimenting and seeing what works for you. but IMO, it was such a natural feeling for me that if a manifestation doesn't feel imminent almost right away, your system will need some tweaking. both neville and joseph murphy methods, i think, seek the same thing: the feeling of living in the end, of having the manifestation with you. Emmett Fox calls it the "proof." a feeling that you have it now, right now, with the completed affirmation, becomes your "proof" that it works.
>Maybe I should be going all the way, and do that a bunch?
>>39581232
>People doing affirmations, approx how long did it take you to see results, and how much were you doing them?
in the stories i'm telling here, my successful manifestations were:
feeling of the problem being resolved = instantaneous
confirmation 3D result of the problem resolving = 2-3 days
and i was doing these affirmations pretty much all day at work any time i felt even the tiniest slip towards something negative

>>39575175
I need advice/help with SP situation.
Relationship in 2021, not a long one but i was never able to get over her. She lost feelings, i got attached. Tried to move on, couldn't.
Eventually her and I became really good friends. Best friends even, be it long distance (i'm in military and got posted other side of the country). We became closer. She said she trusts me more than anyone she has ever met. Eventually manifested buying a house with her. She holds no romantic feelings for me though. Said she can only offer me friendship. I know i'm putting too much resistance in this, overthinking, creating all this potential energy. I need to bring that energy back to me. How do i let go? I manifested so many other things with ease, but i'm struggling with this one. I'm struggling and it's really badly impacting my mental health.
I get that this kind of attachment generally stems from unhealed trauma, etc., i don't care about that. I want her to be obsessed with me and give me a long term romantic relationship. She knows my feelings.

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>First, decide what it is you want to express or possess. This is essential.

>You must definitely know what you want of life before you can fish for it. After your decision is made, turn from the world of sense, remove your attention from the problem and place it on just being, by repeating quietly but with feeling, “I AM”.

>As your attention is removed from the world round about you and placed upon the I AM, so that you are lost in the feeling of simply being, you will find yourself slipping the anchor that tied you to the shallows of your problem; and effortlessly you will find yourself moving out into the deep.

>The sensation which accompanies this act is one of expansion. You will feel yourself rise and expand as though you were actually growing. Do not be afraid of this floating, growing experience for you are not going to die to anything but your limitations.

>You continue claiming and feeling yourself to be healthy and free until the conviction that you are so possesses you. As the conviction is born within you, so that all doubts pass away and you know and feel that you are free from the limitations of the past, you will know that you have hooked these fish.

>As you open your eyes on the world round about you, the conviction and the consciousness that you are healthy and free should be so established within you that your whole being thrills in anticipation.

>Then, as you walk through the necessary interval of time that it will take the things felt to embody themselves, you will feel a secret thrill in knowing that in a little while that which no man sees, but that which you feel and know that you are, will be landed.

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>>39580375
That is disgusting. You are proof that tit guys have mommy issues.
>>39578770
Also you don’t even know the most basic part of loa is saying “I AM so grateful now that…” You are sending out “want” vibes to the universe and giving it the ick cuz you have degen nipple fucking desires.

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>>39582991
>buying a house with her
Does she live in that house without you on the other side of the country? And how much did she put down on it (if anything) when you bought it?

I am a Chairforce fag and lemme tell you, you got played. It’s the most cliche thing a military fag can do. Might as well marry a stripper or a Filipina woman. Beta bucks for alpha fucks. Go with GP instead of SP. Nothing turns people off more than desperation. Especially women. Look up Coach Corey Wayne on youtube and see what he says about exes and all that. And try to foster cognitive dissonance. You can get your SP obsessed but on a manifesting level as well as a materialist level you gotta let go. So many ppl report once they let go they got their desire. You are sending out desperation and you want to send out abundance and as if you already have it. Which is hard to do if you still have oneitis. “The best way to get over someone is to get under someone else.” Trust me, the universe will pick up on those vibes and nothing will turn your SP on more than feeling like you moved on.

>>39583188
Single out any picture of a guy who has been wrongfully imprisoned in a freaking Romanian prison cell and you will find they look pretty haggard

>>39583214
So she out earns me, she made about 200k last year. She put the entire downpayment (about 150k down), i have equity in the house.
I've dated other people but I decided back in the summer she is the one I want to spend my life with. It was shortly after this she asked me to buy the house with her.
Letting go of my desire is where I am struggling right now.

>>39582991
why not just spend an afternoon doing breathing exercises and meditating? While meditating tell yourself you're not attached, but you're married with her or whatever. Should do the trick!

>>39583393
alright
I will try after work¿
on a day i am not too much coping with seething

>>39583393
Thanks,
Something i've tried, but i'll give it a shot again.

>>39583415
>>39583424
are these the same people or did we just shift? kek

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>>39583253
Ohh okok. Thanks for clarifying. I married someone I just met and everyone thought the same I did about you. But 3 years in and we’re still great and fuck all the time. And i made her sign a prenup too.

Anyways, that changes things. Sounds like you have a beautiful thing and maybe just friend zoned. I was heartbroken over an ex I ended up leaving (long story) and an anon on /fit/ recommeded Coach Corey Wayne. Bit cheesy but he speaks the truth. Go through his whole youtube for relevant keywords to your situation:

https://youtu.be/W_cnbV_OSi4?si=hOtkTAtmn7N5Qq0A

Likewise, Patrice O’Neal is a comic God and has a ton of great advice. He was a womanizer and speaks hyperbolically. But he speaks the truth. Go through all his archives “black philip” or “patrice oneal women” on youtube. Here’s one:

https://youtu.be/8g51JODUvd4?si=TQ5RKRAZFEsJfPlo

I gave this advice to a friend and it really helped him. Start talking to other girls and flirting. Don’t even worry about trying to get with them or anything. It just helps you not be so clingy and weird with your SP.

>inb4 this is not /fit/ don’t advocate any irl action
I know. But I think unless you are a monk, it is easier to do affirmations or go to the gym to start feeling a change in your self image. And then you can truly embody the “I AM” state you need to feel that what you want is already yours. Much harder to “live in the end” when you feel like a piece of shit and look like a slob. Simple as. As within so without. As above so below. Part of changing your inner beliefs is by *gasp* taking irl actions. Then it’s a feedback loop.

>>39583528
>>39583253
Oh and forgot to say. The most common thing to do for SATS is to imagine your SP congratulating you or sending a text you want. One technique that seems to help me and I’ve heard others report success with is “copy and pasting” a feeling. So imagining past successes and then go into your current desire. Which is also why texting and flirting other girls is good for this. It won’t feel so foreign and bizarre to you. (And again, seeing you as high status will turn her on and make her have FOMO etc etc.)

>>39582991
That’s so weird that she suggested buying the house but can’t offer more than platonic love. Seems like you really have a chance and this is not even a big thing to manifest. I wish I knew more details like you got fat, cheated on her, or only make a little money or something. But it sounds like it’s just an ex who is worried about being hurt again but clearly still has love for you. I’m sure you’ll make it happen, anon! Good luck!

new here.. So I don't really know the lingo or anything.

From my understanding, are you guys basically saying that the power of positive thinking and shit like that is legit? Like I could somehow manually manifest my dick to be 8 inches, grow half a foot taller, and a 200k /year job with no college education? A bit hyperbole but is that kind of the gist?

>>39583648
depends entirely on your ratios and metrics
ignore anyone that implies otherwise

>>39583648
>From my understanding, are you guys basically saying that the power of positive thinking and shit like that is legit?
Sorta. What you believe determines what will happen. Focus on negative shit and believe bad things happen to you? Not a good idea. Believe you are amazing and you are astoundingly lucky? Much better results.

This is a startlingly simple idea, which is why many Anons(including myself) often miss it the first couple of times looking for the secret sauce.

Now, the second thing you probably want to know is, if it's that simple, why isn't everyone doing it. The truth is, they are, but most don't realize it. The ones that do come to figure it out mostly do because they fucked their lives up and want a way to fix it.

Those Anons come to find out the catch- the Law and the application of it are dead simple. YOU are the complication. Any time you are having trouble bringing something into your life it's because you are resisting it.

> Like I could somehow manually manifest my dick to be 8 inches, grow half a foot taller, and a 200k /year job with no college education? A bit hyperbole but is that kind of the gist?
Yep, and more. As long as you can allow it.

>>39580748
>if you want more, look up Emmett Fox's The Golden Key. 1-2 page essay and it's basically the method I was unknowingly using.
https://www.emmetfox.org/booklets/the-golden-key
I looked it up, and it's pretty cool. here's the link if anyone wants it
It mostly focuses on solving problems, and essentially involves directing your attention away from the problem to instead to some transcendent higher power (in this case "God" in the christian sense).
And I do think this is effective because in reality, we are the cause of all our problems. Because we manifest everything in our life. So by getting out of our own way, and no longer manifesting the problem by thinking about it, it goes away.
But this technique is not very good at making things happen. Just at making them stop happening.
Still very useful! And interesting info for sure. and I think I can adapt this pretty easily to making things happen (rather than stopping things).
"Every time you think about the target event not happening, instead focus on it happening".

>>39581232
>People doing affirmations, approx how long did it take you to see results, and how much were you doing them?
it could happen instantly, or it could take weeks
it depends on how "easy" it is, and how many times I have manifested it before. If I have a lot of experience manifesting something, it can happen right away, or within seconds. I call this real time magic.
But many times, a certain event could take a day or two.
Let's say I manifest "I will find a 20 dollar bill on the ground" just as a simple test for money magic. Well that isn't going to happen until I go outside again. So maybe it will happen tomorrow.

>>39581827
>When you guys write you affirmations are they in present tense or do you do them in past tense to live in the end?
I like to do it as present tense, which keeps it simpler
You can do it as past tense, which would be living in the end state as you say. I like to keep it simple.

>>39581998
> What would a perfect mastery of the Law even look and feel like?
>Taking this question to its practical extreme - and I do mean extreme - to me it'd be something akin to omnipotency. Whatever you assume to be true, instantaneously shews itself to be true.
Yes. You realize you have been writing the holodeck program you live in, and start issuing commands to make this happen, or that other thing appears. Or "Computer, Freeze Program" and it freezes.
It would be godlike power.
I'm not sure if I'll be capable of this. And I have to do weird shit, like destabilizing reality to make bigger things happen (at least if I care about them). But I do think you can make big things happen. Why not?
>From a more spiritual point-of-view such a being might very well "integrate" itself into God, become God, or perhaps even realize its true identity as God.
Yes, from that point of view you realize that you created this universe. And you wake up to the fact that you still have those godlike powers, you have just restricted yourself.
In other words, you are living in a holodeck program that comes from your own mind.

>>39582358
>If this gets traction we'll probably do it on a regular basis to help anons who need it. Good luck anon and thanks
These sorts of experiments can work
However, if the person does not harmonize with their new situation, they will just self sabotage and get right back to where they were. After like a week or two. Maybe a full month.
This is the problem with blessing people. It works. But if it's going to last, it has to come from within.
So I think this is likely to work if the person was already going to succeed, and truly wants to live in that new reality. Other people adding their energy to it will make it more powerful.
But again, for it to last, it must come from within. There must be a permanent change in your mind/soul for it to last. Or you will go back to "normal".
The most powerful phrase in magic is "They do it to themselves". "They heal themselves" for example.
"I am not healing you. No. You are healing yourself, I'm just a guide." Way more powerful that way.

>>39582498
>I am going to try this with my white whale with a few tweaks
>>"It is a good thing."
>>"I should have it."
>>"I deserve it"
>>"I can have it easily"
>>"I have it."
>>"Isn't it wonderful?"
>Good job Anon. :)
Thanks, and good luck

>>39582910
>>if you do go far enough to reach that state, do you need to do affirmations often?
>pretty often, i did it every time i felt even a twinge of negativity. i was relentless, allowing zero negative thoughts and even worries to sprout
Okay cool. I will try that then.
I have been having less success with the casual fire and forget method. I always got better results when I shoved a bunch of energy into it and really tried to manifest it hard.
Though sometimes I would do some casual thing, barely think about it, put no energy into it, then it would happen. So I dunno. I wish I could do that for everything.
> it was such a natural feeling for me that if a manifestation doesn't feel imminent almost right away, your system will need some tweaking. both neville and joseph murphy methods, i think, seek the same thing: the feeling of living in the end, of having the manifestation with you. Emmett Fox calls it the "proof." a feeling that you have it now, right now, with the completed affirmation, becomes your "proof" that it works.
Right, that makes sense. Make it as real as possible, and that you have it "right now". So that means pretty intense.

>>39582991
>I need advice/help with SP situation.
>How do i let go?
The easiest way would be to find a new girlfriend, have sex with her, and fall in love with her instead.
Manifest a GP that's even better than this woman. Nicer, better personality, and she lives next to you so you can actually see her, hotter, sexier, more sexual, everything.
Imagine your dream woman. She is everything that you want in this SP, but even more. And has everything that she doesn't have.
If you find someone better, you'll move on quickly.
Also, cut contact. That should go without saying.

>>39583748
>Now, the second thing you probably want to know is, if it's that simple, why isn't everyone doing it. The truth is, they are, but most don't realize it. The ones that do come to figure it out mostly do because they fucked their lives up and want a way to fix it.
I think the most powerful manifestations we do are the ones we don't even realize.
The unquestioned assumptions. The unspoken agreements. The things you "just know" but have never put into words.
And the most powerful magic would be whatever can question those assumptions.
"Why can't I just do X Y or Z?" "Why is this thing impossible? What if it was just possible, and easy?" "What if everyone was doing it, like a new fad?"

>>39583777
Yo! Trips checked and confirm the golden key is worth looking into. 777
7
7
7

>>39582332
never, eat shit bengston

>>39583901
>Yo! Trips checked and confirm the golden key is worth looking into. 777
>7
>7
>7
it is pretty based. glad the other anon posted the title, and that I looked it up and read it
pretty good advice for stopping things.

>>39582237
>You mean you've been telling yourself that you're an incel loser for as long as you remember
No?

I just want to get some money but I no longer know what to believe in because there is a trip here who deals with flying elves and werewolves on a daily basis. I would get back to basics and just make huge money, but I’m getting confused by all the fantasy RPG claims.

>>39583882
>>How do i let go?
Learn to be ok by yourself bro. That's the only way.

>The easiest way would be to find a new girlfriend, have sex with her, and fall in love with her instead.
If you change the outside without changing the inside then nothing will have changed.

>>39583233
Robmanians stole his anal virginity

>>39582136
>I've been visualizing and imagining/feeling what i like to have my entire life
Which of the following did you do?
>I want x
>I am x

>>39583648
Been quite a few guys who manifested dick size increases, through affirmation, visualization and just ASSUMING that their dick was perfect.

>>39583777
so simple and yet so profound.
absolutely love this, everyone in this thread should read it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn_hYL_Q0jU

This was in my watch suggestions yesterday. So glad i clicked on it.

My favourite quotes:
>"Other than damnation, I know no magic to satisfy your wishes. For you believe one thing, desire another, speak unlike, act differently, and obtain the living value."
>"And remember, you shall suffer all things, and again suffer, until you have sufficient sufferance to accept all things."
>"O! wise man, please thyself."
>"Art is all we dare express without excuse."

Also something about the video made me feel really sexy

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>>39583524
Indeed the shift is quite sublime
I went into a meditation for an hour just passed
I formed a coherent vision to make an advance with her
I didn't go so far as to decide if she will respond in kind as it has not worked with previous advances with other Ps
cheers m8

>>39584326
I think they are weird perverts who just like talking about it. They probably didn’t succeed. Posters tell lies here constantly.

>>39584509
This is why you need to find your own proof

>>39584586
But it’s easier if someone else proved things because then you don’t know if you are wasting your time.
So far though there is no repeatable definitive proof given in these generals and we are on several years of them.

>>39584692
2,000 years of Christian foundation with only a self-referential text as evidence
you must suspend your gamma function constrained by the physical system
overclock the folding of the event horizon at the edge of your perception
induce a pseudo catatonic dream state and operate accordingly to the aforementioned foundation

>>39584692
Don't be a lazy faggot, nobody is going to do the work for you, and nobody is going to take pics just for you to say it's fake anyway

>>39584859
nobody is going to "do the work" for themselves either lmao

>>39584692
the foundation of the LoA is faith.
how do you expect it to work for you if you need other anons' word for it?

>>39584894
Yeah but I know cars work because I can see them and I know 4chan exists because I am posting on it. Now if we had people demonstrating their LoA powers repeatedly then my faith is absolute.
Otherwise we are caught in the loop of saying something didn’t work and then someone else says
>you didn’t believe hard enough bro try the <insert technique here>!

>>39583648
Don't ask us, ask yourself.

>>39585042
you have faith that every car on the street won't crash into you, and you have faith that the internet will work long enough for your post to get through.
>but bla bla bla i know how it works i can see it
apply the same to what you see in your mind's eye

>Otherwise we are caught in the loop of saying something didn’t work
even within this thread so many people have shared their successes and methods. you still want more? what will satisfy your curiosity and make you get off your butt and try it for yourself? i genuinely want to know.

>>39585065
That’s too many methods. They obviously don’t work a lot of the time otherwise there would be one method. If it’s a law it’s repeatable and has a standardised method. Laws are laws.
Why do you larp like a guru?
What are you hiding?

>>39585070
everyone's methods work for them
this is why everyone's telling you to stop asking for ONE ultimate proof
are you legitimately stupid or just trying to distract from your lack of faith and results?

>Why do you larp like a guru?
if you think someone replying to your post on a forum of all places is a guru larper you have bigger problems you should be trying to sort out

>>39585074
>everyone’s methods work for them
>>39582136
I didn’t have to go far to find just one poster where it didn’t.
There are hundreds of other such posters in the threads so you are wrong.
>are you legitimately stupid
Well I just showed you are wrong so I am smarter than you officially. But no need to get offended.
>this is why everyone's telling you to stop asking for ONE ultimate proof
Again I can prove that not everyone responded to me. I think it’s like two people at most? You might want to think about your choice of words. Again just relax. It’s just a forum to ask questions. If you get offended it’s a problem with your attitude. Maybe you aren’t cut out for anything like replying to people without seething. Work on it.
> if you think someone replying to your post on a forum of all places is a guru larper
You are larping like a guru. Also there are a lot of those here.
Please relax anon. I understand you cannot provide proof. That’s fine. Let someone better than you post here. I await your tired screaming replies. I might ignore them, maybe not. But I will never be as angry as you.
I’m sorry this LoA doesn’t work for you.

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>>39585088
good luck anon
hope you stop looking for proof and can finally manifest a brain cell

>>39585074
>everyone's methods work for them
Lmao the funniest post.

>>39584692
>But it’s easier
No, it's impossible for anyone else to prove this to you. You need to prove it to yourself. If you can't even be bothered to do that you should quit.

>>39575815
I have only gotten "better". You and i might need to tamper with soul settings and get into the advanced attention and kinesis stuff. It works thoe. But yeah, if spirits are all truth then regardless, we could just kind of "possess" someone else's body (altering the shape of the body and soul)

>>39585181
no it's not impossible, manifest a gold bar by the end of the week, post a pic with a timestamp, and most anons will believe

>>39585195
>and most anons will believe
Why are you under the impression that anyone here wants you/ needs you to believe anything? If you don't believe it that's 100% fine.

>>39585224
why does it twist your panties when people don't believe, then?

>>39585235
So you're resorting to making shit up now? No one cares because your belief or disbelief has no relevance to anyone else except yourself.

>>39585264
then why do anons here get tilted when someone doesn't believe?

>>39585264
Why can’t you just provide proof?
It can only be because you can’t or you don’t want to.
If it’s infinitely powerful and can do anything then it’s no problem to do it.
So you can’t.
That anon is right.
Just manifest the gold bar or degrade into a Lilanon elf manifesting time travelling ex-vampire joke dispensing advice but unable to do anything.

>>39585274
>>39585296
So this is just blatant trolling. I get it.

>>39585305
Asking for proof cannot be trolling.
You claim miracles but can deliver nothing.
If anything you are trolling by claiming powers you do not have.

>>39580589
I watched a few of her videos, seems pretty down to earth and gives reasonable advice, and doesn't seem to make any exaggerated claims. And yeah not selling anything is a major green flag.

>>39585392
You've been told it's impossible for anyone else to prove this to you yet you keep asking for proof.

>but can deliver nothing
No one has ever promised to deliver anything to you, no one can deliver anything to you.

You are either very very stupid or trolling. Which one is it?

>>39585462
Bro just stop responding to these retards, they're just here to shit up the thread and nothing else

>>39585392
What would you consider proof that we can also realistically provide?
a screenshot
?
a collection of pixels on a screen
?

>>39585479
they're shitty enough as is, you've still got m*theranon's off-topic blogposts and lilanon's schizo ramblings

Why are these threads moving so fast?

>>39585462
It’s very easy to prove things that can be proved. This is no different.
>You've been told it's impossible for anyone else to prove this to you yet you keep asking for proof.
Told by you and you can’t do anything so what use is that? You can’t do LoA. Of course you have a vested interest in pretending and you will never provide anything because you have nothing.
>You are either very very stupid or trolling. Which one is it?
Asking for proof is smart. Refusing to give it repeatedly is pointless and stupid. Just stop. You can’t do LoA and you get angry about it.
>>39585525
You’d really need to have something that you can manifest and then a realistic standard could be applied. I don’t know what you can manifest so I have no idea if some pixels displaying it is any use. S3Anon tried photos before but he did not display a previous photo. You don’t know what height he was before he allegedly changed height. He also posted a picture of a Rolex and said he got it through LoA methods. But at the end of the day people can just go buy a watch.

>>39584177
>I just want to get some money
So get your money and your sex.

>I no longer know what to believe
You don't have the focus to get your money? This is about what you want, not what other people are doing.

>>39585610
all the trolling

>>39585479
You're right, it's clear they're just here to troll. Report them

>>39585796
skepticism is trolling lmao, stay mad flying elf

>>39580936
right. my method was to concentrate on the idea intensely and repeat it if i didn't feel a sense of "ahhhh i have it now" with 100% faith. then once you do, you just move on to whatever else you were doing.

but i'd do it like 7 times until I got that perfect "ahhhh, i have it" feeling first.

>>39580939
Sounds like good advice, but it must take ages to get to the point where you feel satisfied if you're supposed to know when you are. I've imagined the visuals in first person of stuff for hours before and couldn't tell if I was satisfied or not.

>>39583777
thanks for linking it. i am shocked it's not more popular. i hope my responses in this thread help promote its popularity; simplicity is best

>>39579767
>who cares about being a gigachad if all you're after is an attractive woman in your life
Why wouldn't some people care about themselves or their self image?

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im planning on doing my own alpha hypno but whithout porn because it rotts my mind and makes asexual. So my plan is for two weeks (after seeing many irl in my social circle) take marijuana oil and fuck many pillows withouyt cumming, so my mind thinks its fucking many women, this way my subconscious will manifest sex in my life thinking it already has it, the time im not fucking i will be meditating so i have no other stimlus than sex so i dont get reminders of my loser life, im tricking my subconscious into thinking im succesful with women.

Is this a good idea? what would you add?

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i realized i made a shortcut between my conscience and my subconscious, but it only works for a few things: manifestation of mind reading, like I say something in my head and people in my surroundings do references about it. The other day it got deeper, in my mind i said to my cat to puke and then it started to try to puke, i think the shortcut is getting bigger.

How can i take advantage from this and use the shortcut at my will so i manifest good things instead of just people reading my mind?

>>39585882
touch women in public and then before washing your hands do the masturbating ritual
skin on skin germs are the essential conduit to impress upon one's self

>>39585872
what's the point of being gigachad if not for attracting women