Who is the actual strongest anime character as of this moment?
Cirno
>>270889716
>>270889716One Mob Mashle are all on the same tier
>>270889716This thread will go absolutely nowhere because anons will keep putting caveats in packs until their favorite is the strongest. With no caveats, it’s impossible to determine because several characters can alter reality itself.
>>270890011>caveats in packsin place*
>>270890011But there are levels to reality warping too
>>270889836Goku victim.
>>270890315I can tell this chart is made by someone who isn't a powerscaler.
>>270889716>My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered>Yogiri Takatou
>>270890423There are many characters that can't be ended with death. And will blitz him before he can even think of an action.
>>270889716>bald faggot>mogging anyone
>>270890508>can one punch anyone he wants>has never jobbed or died or even been seriously damaged in anywayHe mogs your favorite character.
>>270890459Yogiri Takatou's true identity is similar to the Supreme Divine of the SCP Foundation. He is neither human nor alien.
>>270890572>he's the blah blah blahJobs to any top tier toonforce character. No one cares about mechanics or hax when you bypass its writing.
>>270889716Still my bro.
>Yogiri Takatou
>>270890496Came here to say this. Altair and the handful of characters like her that both recognize and exploit that they are in fiction are the silver bullet to powerlevel fags and gag characters and toon force, because they have the explicit ability to change those conditions.You no longer have plot armor, because I'm the protagonist now. You no longer have the benefit of your hard work, because I decided to reset you to the start of your training arc instead of the end. This is no longer a comedy, because I said so, so rule of funny no longer applies. Etc. Powerful characters are usually powerful because the story says they are, and character like Altair punch the author in the face and rewrite what the story gets to be now. Once you are in that tier, I'm not even sure that strength vs other metanarrative characters even matters. Its not like they can kill each other, since that requires you to be bound by a canon which none of them are or they wouldn't be sitting at the big kids table.
>>270890496
>>270890786If she fought Bugs Bunny it would result in an endless loop of the end of Duck Amuck and they keep turning each other into that thing he turned Daffy into.
>>270889716Arcueid
>>270891331>teleports behind you...
>>270889716Goku IS the strongest but you guys are not ready and will never be ready to have this conversation.https://youtu.be/iOdgtqlexPY?si=UTqWsN57GZ_zgWiw
>>270889716No point in arguing this when isekai protag #329302930 has some bullshit cheat skill that insta kills everything in existence or some bullshit "I win" skill. I think it's more fun to have matchups between characters bellow universal.
>>270891533>Why he will never loseI dunno, maybe because the author is fucking dead so he can't write Goku losing anymore.
Powerful characters are lame and uninspired/
Golden experience requiem and the all mighty ability of Ywach are down right retarded.
>>270889716For actual -anime-, as in, animated works, not novels or other stuff, I guess Simon from the TTGL movie just from a scale of raw power due to the galaxy sized energy mecha?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3kytewub_Y>>270890496>>270890786Altair's powers only worked in the end due to the people from her world cheering for her as the protagonist. No way that'd work with people from other worlds, considering how she isn't even particularly popular in reality.>>270890459Later on in the novels they apparently say his ability can kill even unkillable beings or beings that attempt to spread their existence around somehow. He's also some kind of cosmic concept/entity, just incarnated into a human body, that can't really be permanently killed either. But, yeah, when you get to this point, it really just goes nowhere since you'll get both sides claiming the other's ability shouldn't work.
>>270889836He gets no diffed by those he does not perceive. Average stand user, jujutsu sorcerer, and anyone with invisibility can kill him >>270889716The anti spiral
>>270890315FINALLY I haven't seen this shit posted in years.>something above EGDElaborate.
>>270891533He isn't even the strongest in his own verse. But Goku's power will actually always be bullshit, because the fans will just pull some "He farted so hard the entire gorillionverse shook when he was in SSJ34" quote from the manga, so Goku becomes High Complex Gorillionversal until the next bullshit quote from the manga comes around, or Toriyma/Whoever the mangaka nowadays is ends up being too much of a midwit to come up with a clever way to bypass some abillity, so he just lazingly says "Goku just overpowered it with his willpower lmao" so now Goku can bypass gorilliality warping as well.
>>270889716It's still Void Shiki.
>>270891860Most of the higher feats for Super Goku actually come from the anime. The manga is actually relatively low scaled compared to stuff like the universal explosion from the Goku vs Beerus beam clash (that only didn't destroy all of existence because Beerus nullified its power) or having the Androids and base Goku just get partially immobilized by being thrown into a black hole, or super Saiyan 1 Vegeta shrugging off Absolute Zero.The biggest feat in the manga was Moro with Merus' power (an trainee Angel) fused with Earth having the potential to destroy the galaxy if his power ran out of control.
>>270889716me>b-b-but what abo-nope, it's me
>>270890315>The higher you are, the shittier your franchise isMake you think, huh?
>>270892013Prove it.>>270892237That would make Eva better than Votoms. It isn't.
>>270891841He senses killing intent against him and reflexively kills it before it kills him regardless of what it is. Invisible magic stand user is dead before he knows it.
Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
>>270891533This. He's not beating Goku.
>>270891841>by those he does not perceiveLmao, no. Blowing up the univese also doesn't work on him by the way, you stop existing by the time you start to think about it.
>>270892395Still gets speed blitz by those faster than the neurons in his brain
>>270892412>can do literally anything>can overcome any odds no matter whatIt's not even the mech, it's just Simon himself.
>>270889716>>270892412>>270892625>his power is that he just fucking wins
>>270892474Yeah, its kinda like causality manipulation. He implies as much in the manga when land minds didnt off when stepped on them or when a character capable of seeing fate itself said as much. Hes everywhere and a future where doesnt exist is impossible. Nhility an absolute end, thats yogiri
saitama is just powerman from that ancient mspaint comic
>>270892412He said character. That's made up of multiple so it doesn't count
>>270892569Kill Intent moves faster than the speed of light, come on, we don't even need to delve much into the topic, this is just basic knowledge.
>>270891533>gokuBut can he beat goku?
>>270892677Yogiri erases simon and the very concept of spiral energy. He neutralized an azathoth level opponent by erasing or killing his connection to his own dream/reality. Death/oblivion are absolute.
>>270891533Trvth Nvke
>>270892767goku v goku is a 10-0 matchup, goku always wins
>>270892776NOT IF I JUST RAISE MY VOICE SLIGHTLY AND DEFY YOU WITH UTTER OBSTINANT STUBBORNNESS.
idkany time looper I guess
>>270892755You could only kill his avatar and thats because he nerfs himself to be human. Otherwise his ability would erase everything automatically. A character was able to attempt to kill him by making indirect moves that just so happened to lead to his death but they all failed. A future where he isnt here isnt possible unless he nerfed himself and closed all of his gates
>>270889836This dude would get destroyed by touma.
>>270889716DB is still the strongest. They're all like a million times stronger than pic related by the end of the manga.
>>270890315>Chirico
>>270892891Time manipulation doesnt work on yogiri, his ability gave a god 10 seconds before absolute death, he rewound time years and still couldnt see any further than 10 seconds in his future. This being ate entire universes btw
>>270892755Bull shit
>>270892907No, imagine breaker wouldnt stave off instant death. Its been said its not magic but an absolute fact or rule that all things adhere to. Magic is nothing compared to it, hes not nullifying shiiit
>>270893071Imagine breaker is not limited to magic, it is a ruler that brings reality to a point back to where there's no outside interference from actual reality a.k.a. supernatural stuff.
>>270891533An INVINCIBLE TITAN of INFINITE MIGHT.
>>270892395What if they're immortal by fate like Rincewind or an avatar of something beyond time and space like Sentry's The Void, the Phoenix Force or even the motherfucking Phoenix?
>>270892412Even Gunbuster reaches past TTGL. She fought fucking Azathoth.
>>270892820I reject your reality and substitute my own.
>>270892900>You could only kill-So he can be killed. It's over. He lost
>>270892698Can someone post it?
>>270891533Bros... How can there be such a man?Taller than the stars.More profound than the sea.Faster than omnipresence.Stronger than omnipotence!He is a tower.A titan.A leviathan.Whenever he fights, he wins.That's why he is OUR HERO.His fame? Eternal.His power? Absolute.His name? DECLARE IT.
>>270892900I point out the dullness of his existence. He can't unlearn it since that would erase a part of him and change who he was.
One Jobber, robbed to a cat.Now sit down.
A big can of air in space, two cats inside tied together by a long rope, floating in the air.
>>270893904Yogiri and Dazai would be good pals, actually Yogiri objective is precisely to find someone like Dazai.
>>270894185He must have daddy issues.
Yugi>B-butYugi
>>270889716kirby had an anime so its kirby
>>270891533I can think of like 10 different people that beat Goku in his own show.>Jackie Chun>Tien (we can count this as a tie)>King Piccolo >Raditz>Vegeta>Heart disease>Cell>Fat, super and kid versions of Buu>Beerus >Broly >Jememba if Z era movies count. No GOAT has double digit losses on their record.
>>270894498He couldn't even beat Sakura. She steals the heart of the cards.
>>270889716And then SHITama woke up, after his spine was SHATTERED by Yamcha.
>>270892755What if he's faster than the speed of kill?
>>270890366Kek this, something about its vibe
>>270891482>>270890786>>270890496GOAToki SICKata victim.
>>270890531>has never jobbed or died or even been seriously damaged in anywayENTER
>>270891533This, he's Son Goku.Even if they're beating Goku... they're not beating Goku. He's Goku.
>>270893722What. Gunbuster just brought a bomb to a really large alien. It's nothing like Azathoth dreaming the universe into existence. The only similarity is that both are in the center of the universe.
>>270889836Cute. Would beat him by rape.
>>270891712>YhwachIf we're being realistic here most of the characters IIT win against the rest if their mangaka is writing them. If anyone else is writing them, then the other characters win. What BS. What the fuck would an interaction between Yhwach's Almighty and Yogiri's death hax even look like?
>>270889836Specifically doesn't work on anyone outside his own verse because the author overexplained his abilities to claim he's the strongest and ironically made him powerless against anyone not from his own universe.
>>270892013Thank you, Kumagawa
>>270889716not even a question
>>270893740>>270892776>It's IMPOSSIBLE for you to win! Then we must do the impossible, drill through death, ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWERRR
>>270892776Spiral Energy is an essential part of the universe. The anti-spiral could create entire artificial universes and yet couldn't just erase spiral energy from existence.Although this goes back to different absolute rules just clashing with each other and then you can't pull a ruling.Although if we stick with animated content most of Yogiri's bigger and "But..." feats are denied anyway.
This autistic guy is pretty strong.
>>270892698>>270893826If you allow meme characters then powerman gets BTFO by El Hermano.
>>270895005>Forgot pictureIts over.
>>270894901Almighty would fail to find any possible future where he doesn't die probably.Yhwach can look for as many futures as he wants, but he's ultimately still limited by his own stats. Outside of Bleach, you should theoretically be able to beat him through raw overpowering force, like a planet busting explosion he has no chance of escaping from.
>>270892767This literally happened in DB Heroes btw
>>270894876This, he just LOVES him that much, he doesn't want to kill him, no sir-eee
>>270895029The Almighty alters the future though, he doesn't just choose it, he changes it. He's universal by that point, isn't he? He's wiping out multiple realms at once to remake them.
>>270893722Lovecraft is so last week. Optimus Prime BTFO Cthulu.
>>270895029Yhwach's entire goal was erasing death itself from life, so logically he should have a way to deny it by that point, he's reached his final goal and the plan was in motion.
>>270895094I don't follow Bleach powerscaling closely, but are those realms actually the size of a real universe?I remember in the final battle, Almighty took the form of things like "creating a future where Yhwach set up a trap in the exact spot Ichigo stepped on", which is bullshit, but not something that would grant Yhwach the power to survive someone who can both speedblitz and oneshot him.
>>270891533>Goku IS the strongest but you guys are not ready and will never be ready to have this conversation.Goku is the weakest character in fiction.
>>270889836>JOBgiri Fodder.
>>270889716Meaningless, even mid-tier American Superheroes would solo all of anime.
>>270894549THE HEART OF THE CARDS IS A CONCEPT EVERYONE CAN WIELD IT YOU FUCKING RETARD
I don't know about all that but Vegeta is undefeated against Shadow in the jobbing department.
>>270891399>not even planetary Get this WHORE out of here.
>>270889836>CAN’TEVENKILLCORONAgiri
>>270891896>BARELYROOMLEVELki Get this WHORE out of here.
>>270891399>Boundless lowballedMy GODDESS...
Goku
>>270895494...boundless levels of WEAK, that is.
>>270895535...but enough about composite fiction.
>>270895545...'s cumdump, Arcueid.
>>270895535>>270895558Canon
>>270894925Series literally happens outside of his verse lmao.
>>270889716Probably Hajun.
>>270895545Gold>>270895535>>270895558>>270895591RTH mold
>SHITgiri Not even wall level.
>>270895453>SuperKEKs
>>270894934>Kumagawa>Winning
>>270895475>>270895535>>270895558>>270895591Canon gold.>>270895545KWABcueid RTH mold.
>Too strong for battleboarding
who let the death battle tards in
Who invited the CHAD CHADttle CHADS here?
Damn no one has posted Demonbane, fuck I'm getting old
>>270895625Hey now, being the stongest doesn't mean the same thing as winning anything
>BUILDINGLEVELbaneNot even worth Gojo's time.
>>270895668>no one has posted (debunked fraud)
>>270895687...in the laundry mat competition
>>270894925>the authorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Authordone.you LOSE the argument.
>>270895643...'s dishwashing service, but not for the laundry room.
>>270895535>>270895558Canon.
>>270889836>laughs in AI controlled death robot programmed to eradicate humans
>>270892776>He neutralized an azathoth level opponentNo he didn't, the great sage Mitsuki doesn't compare to Azathoth at all, just because he has his own multiverse as his dream doesn't put him on that level, besides this about everything being Azathoth's dream is misinformation.
>PEDObaneNot worth any of our heroes time.
>>270895621Thanks for showing how weak anime is in the face of CHADmerican icons.
>>270891533Reminder that GODku TRAINED Neko Majin, he trained and taught a gag character.
>>270889716Lelouch lamprouge. >hey goku, kys>hey one punch fag, kys >hey euphelia, kys
>Arc mindbroke the sameBITCHYup, yup, the strongest.
>>270894875Azathoth is the meat, Yog-Sothoth is the dreamer in that meat. Our meat happens to be bedbugs in the former's mattress, but we live our own small dreams apart from Yog-Sothoth.
>PEDObane >FORGOTTENbane >DEBUNKEDbaneNot worth anyone's time.
kek
>SHITcueid is crying at the FACT that there's different CHADS raping her pathetic weak ASSYup.
>>270889716gigga drill thing from TTGL>time physics would take 1PunchMan three thousand years for any damage to reach the wrist if they met fist to fist at light speed
>>270889716Law of identity.
>>270895785Lelouch couldn't even beat the lewd slut in your pic.
>>270895810canon
>>270895810K, b, c.
>>270895649The redditors troon as always of /dbs/
>enter thread to see Japan's strongest>literally everyone here but Goku and Simon would be a mid-tier at best in America Grim.
>>270895785LeOUCH is what he’ll rename himself to after his SHITass fails to control Goku, Saitama and Euphelia.
Watch out! Battler is about to hit your favorite verse with the red truth! In layman terms, it means you're cooked.
>>270889716I always think this is a bit of a trap, since people go to "one punch man" or "goku" or some other battle shounen types with bullshit nonsensical powers, but the real answer is any god or god-like character, with reality warping powers, or god-like magical powers. Chidaruma from Dorohedoro for example is the literal god of his setting and has an infinite amount of magical powers. He could just point to the vast majority of characters here and then them into pepperoni pizza. Chidaruma, as powerful as he is, probably isn't even the most powerful deity or god in anime/manga, and then you get into vague powers and things that aren't even characters. It's very hard to gauge how magic systems from completely different series interact with each other.
>>270895621>>270895771Now post Hercule breaking 14 tiles at ONCE.
>DBSDBSDBSDBSDBSDBSPATHETIC WARPED LITTLE BITCH............
>>270895661The 4chanOVERLORDS from /dbs/.
>>270895849Is garbage.>>270889716Go back to >>>/trash/ and >>>/vt/ NijiGods always win baybeeee.
>JOBttler Not even average human level. Someone wheel that cuck out already.
>>270895836>IESLB
>>270895873Trannies jannies seaniggers pagpagshithole from Philippines and Indonesia.
>>270889716I Will only include “anime” characters here. (No VN/ LN/ WN/Games and Manga etc.)The strongest in anime is Kami Tenshi.
>>270895876>>270895895>Inane schizo ramblings Vtumors are layers into wallversal btw
>Complete gibberish melty
>>270895862Nigga please, like 50 reality-warping gods have been named IIT already
>>270895155So did a boat. Cthulhu is just a kaiju shaman that can't die. It urges creatives towards worship to drive evolution so that our brains make better batter for some minor mouth of Azathoth when our minds finally mature.
>>270895850>>270895827Sorry, your hero is gay and can’t mind control
>>270895907your general was relegated to /trash/ KEK
>>270895931What fucking general, BITCH?
>>270895921>CHADjita already resisted mind control as early as the Buu arc which Goku has long since surpassed
Every character posted here one shots the SLOW btw
>>270895921Babidi can straight up remote-control your head to explode from the other side of the planet kek, Vegeta let him into his mind ON PURPOSE just for a power up, then justs straight up ignored him. Goku can literally read minds. Mental strength is a thing in DBZ far above Lelouch's eye hax.
>>270895190What a god damned stupid horrible thing to do.
>>270895943True
Nice DB thread, fags
>>270895954>>270895942It’s simply not a fair fight, they would all lose because they would kill themselves
Nice DB thread chads.
>>270895973Canon
>>270895973No lies detected
>>270895965The schizo sperging out is the one attacking the OP and linking to random shit, not them.
>Lelouchsissy is crying
>leOUCH is mad because he's been exposed as a wall level fraud
>>270895453You don't understand how profoundly middle of the road some superheroes are.
>>270892776Simon has control over fate and death. I wouldn't bet against him ever.
>>270895993>>270896006Canon.
>cuckmon
Even KEKmon could curbstomp JOBSTOCORONAgiri.
>>270890366And there's nothing wrong with that. Debates on powerlevel existed before vsbw somehow became "the authority" on it and the chart is from that era. Now you have to follow vsbw tiers, scaling, etc. like a religion.
>>270895668That just leads to superman-thought-robot and the infinite progression of fictive simulacra again.
>>270896061True.
>DBfags have no thread>Cry hereFunny
ENOUGH, ENTER FICTION’S MIGHTIEST CHAMPIONS
>>270896083Who is "dbfags"
>>270895453>American SuperheroesCanonically job to ALL MIGHT.
>DBchads have the entire website>Bless us hereThank you
>>270895668i posted EGD earliernewfags just spam goku nowadays
>>270896088...in the "wall level cucks" category.
Okay okay okaybut what IS the biggest number?
>>270896088...in the "greatest endings in fiction" category.
>>270896088… after I blink those sub wall level cucks out of the way.
>>270896096>WEAKpool is the best All SAD can doMHAsisters.......
>>270896144Aroo.
>>270895849No, Simon would be cosmic tier. A fit opponent for the Anti-Monitor or the Outer Evil.
>>270896128… a category those 3 cucks failed out of.
DIVINE beasts...
>>270896184he said "but"
>>270889716Kami Tenchi, but you probably should disregard omnipotents
>>270896191...and SHITnic is there too.
>>270896191Remove WEAKu from FRAUDgon Ball series.
>>270896191...and SHITperman is happy to tag along, I guess.
>>270889716Easily Hajun. It's not even a competition.Take a look at the masadaverse mentioned in the first human post here.https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-strongest-anime-verse
>>270896191… and JOBBERman is there too I guess.
>take a look at [wank]Reminder that the entire verse jobbed to time stop
>>270889716Gear 5 luffy
>quora Get this slop out of here.
>>270896250Based
>SHITffy Don't make me post BVLLsopp.
>>270895775>Still wearing his EoZ outfitIt’s probably because this was made in 2005 so before SHITper but I still respect the consistency.
>KEKffy
>>270889716Jiren.
>PISSren the GAY
>BEASTren
>ERASEDren
>NCBren
>>270889716Him
I dunno why DBfags like to wank characters like Goku or Gohan who lose all the time and need to be gifted powerups to keep up when in their own series they have Buu, a fucking monster with unlimited magic powers, toon force, absorption that can make him grow infinitely stronger, etc and Angels with reality warping powers
Ignore the wall level cuck two posts above me
>>270889716not like this bejita/jirenbros..
>SHITren>LOSTren >WEAKren
>>270889716God from OPMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NTF5_qgH0o
>>270896062>Now you have to follow vsbw tiers, scaling, etc. like a religion.No, actually I just pick who I like more and argue for them. I can tell if the other guy is into it right away though.
The dbverse is so weak... Even the K-on verse can destroy it
>shart punch fagNot worth anyone's time
>DRAGONBALLDRAGONBALLDRAGONBALLDRAGONBALL
>>270896119Infinity plus infinity
>>270896487Yeah, they lost
>>270895731AI Robots FEAR him...
>>270896191HOLY SHIT, why is my hoise shaking???
>>270896487Yup, they won.
>hoise
>>270896405KNEEL
>>270896248Eternal reminder.
>>270896291EoZ comes after Super, anyway.
>>270896499He would get stomped by Elder God Demonbane.
>>270896468>No, actually I just pick who I like more and argue for them
>>270896578>>270896499My WALL-LEVEL HEROES!!!
>>270896551Weaker than Hearts and practically everyone in Heroes at this point, btw
>>270894925>Setsuna, who lives in said world, alters parameters of Altair's world so that Yojiri's Instant Death doesn't work on Altair.>Altair Summons Yojiri to Altair's world, which was created by Her Creator, Setsuna.>Altair Stomps.
>ZEROES
>>270889716Doraemon.
ENOUGH. ENTER
>>270896599... are the Dragon ball characters.
>270896626Xeno Goku stomps REAL LIFE, btw.
>>270896624People don't actually travel between worlds in re:c, though. A version of them compatable with local physical laws and narrative tone is created with a version of their memories that allows them to function, plus Japanese language.
>>270896650He trades with Buddha all day in Saint Young Men.
>SHITno WEAKu
>>270896405>giftedThat's not what this term means
>>270896650>JOBsus
>>270889716Neither of these two bums, that's for sure. Though for all of Saitama's supposed gag powers Goku still has better feats. >>270890315It occurs to me to me that this chart is inaccurate and outdated. Where's the Getter Emperor and Mazinger Zero, they're both more powerful than the antispiral or the STTGL, and Othinus hasn't been at the top of the Raildex hierarchy for a long time. And why is Beerus there but to Zen Oh?
>>270896650see >>270892395
>>270896191Superboy PRIME is not only stronger than Soiperman, he's a far more entertaining character too, he's basically western Gintoki or DC's Deadpool.
>>270896650>CHADsus
>Fodder Emperor and Powerlevelequals ZeroNot even worth Simon's time.
>>270896650>SOLOSALLOFFICTIONsus
DBbros... we lost hard in this thread...
>>270896650>DOESN'TSOLOALLOFFICITONsus
>>270896726>rises again on the third dayNow what? Yeah, punk, that's what I thought.
>GODter Emperor and CHAD ZeroEffortlessly shitstomp HAPPYKEKmon
>>270896436Vegeta beat Goku thrice, retardbro.
ENOUGH.Post pictures of SPIDERMAN!
>>270896762...at losing.
>>270889716>SAY!>HIS!>NAME!
>>270896780>fight where killing spared bejita >fight where bejita needed a sneak attack and goku was holding back anyways >literal minigame fight in base
>>270896191...and Sonic.
270896753>gets absorbed and nullified, plus all its crew becomes fuel Easy.
DBGODS, we EFFORTLESSLY dominated the thread again.
>>270896650Jesus is literally a real person though, he can just rip the pages up or smash the screens. This is like putting (You) up against Goku.>>270896788He solos MHA btw. If you played Web Of Shadows, you know.
>Still stronger than any anime and comic character>Still stronger than Goku, his copyKneel
>>270896847Kratos' victim
>>270889836i wonder if the whole point of this character is to literally troll online shounen discussions.i tried watching the anime, it's the most dull shit ever. the kid has the personality of a used tissue and every single enemy that shows up and gets built up gets this anticlimactic death.the jokes weren't funny, the girl and her fairy were annoying as fuck, and i really couldn't imagine anyone actually enjoying all of this.
>>270896405Hard work > magic hax
>>270896830But that just means he can't fight Goku
>>270891783>Altair's powers only worked in the end due to the people from her world cheering for her as the protagonist. No way that'd work with people from other worlds,Her "fans" would get chainsawed by the spic cartels
>>270896847>island level at best
>>270896847>Literally got mpreg'dChinabros...
Actually Gappy is the strongest. He'd just [GO BEYOND]
>>270896847>jobs to CHADha
>SHATppy Already forgotten
>>270896405because goku and gohan are literally the coolest characters in the anime. thats it. no one is gonna root for an alien faggot or a comedic relief fatty.
>>270896405>>270892931Honestly 99% of verses, even with their hax and stuff, get wiped instantly by Kid Buu, because it's in-character for him to just blow everything up and nuke the planet as soon as he wakes up. Usually these other guys have to at least power up or prep first.
>>270896929>gohanStopped reading there
>>270896650>jeSUS
>>270896771Once Yogiri kills something (like the Wolfman's eyes here) it stays dead. Period.It's essence literally ceases to exist and there is no way to recover it once he kills it.
>>270896929>coolest character in the animeYou called?
>>270889836What the fuck happens if he meets Andy?
>No one wanks GER anymoreJojobros...
>>270896988Fuarrk, even his art is cool...>>270896975>literally arging that a fiction entity can beat someone from real life whose flesh and bloodSchizo momento
>>270896119The amount of cookies I have in cookie clicker
>>270896952Amogus
>>270896914He becomes Buddha anyways
>>270896991he dies.His soul ceases to exist.Whatever is keeping him alive fails in resurrecting him.
>>270896650But Jesus is real
>>270897033>
>>270897051Proof?
>>270896988He IS cool
>>270896875>i wonder if the whole point of this character is to literally troll online shounen discussions.You're giving it too much credit. Isekais are half-unironic pajeet tier wish-fulfillment fantasies catered to otakus that like self-inserting as the MC. That's why their protagonists are the blandest characters imaginable.
>>270896988That’s not Gogeta THOUGH.
>>270897055I thought Goku's leg was a boner
>>270897062>wish-fulfillment fantasies catered to otakus that like self-inserting as the MC. That's why their protagonists are the blandest characters imaginable.But enough about Goku and Gohan
>>270897044Yeah, but like, what if he just says "No." and that doesn't happen
>>270896743>Superboy PRIME is not only stronger than Soiperman, he's a far more entertaining character too, he's basically [UNFUNNY]Jobs to Bugs Bunny, Arale, and Popeye the sailor man.
>>270897067Of course not, he asked for the coolest.
>>270897073Triggered isekaifag kek
>>270897076
>>270897006>Araki's constant strokes killed nearly all interest in his seriesPart 8 sucked shit but I don't have a lot of faith in Jolando doing much better
>>270897006One Persona atom fodderizes this verse
>>270897073I'll give you Gohan but Goku isn't relatable and pisses off his fans half the time with his stupidity.
>>270896875>i wonder if the whole point of this character is to literally troll online shounen discussions.It is>>270897093negative iq isekai hater
>>270897080Gag force is not as reliable as you think it is.
>SHITsona Wall level
>OUTERVERSALsona
>>270896860In SHITos' dreams
*deletes all concepts in your universe*
>>270897120>actual, unironic isekai fanboyWow what the fuck. You do realise isekai is the lowest of the low when it comes to japanese media? Hentai is better, and I'm being dead serious.>>270897100Persona is all BS metaphorical shit, they'd get killed by a car in their normal bodies.
>>270897006Jobs to Pucci
>>270897062maybe because i actually read novels, but a lot of the time the isekai mc's personalities get nerfed in the anime/manga.a favorite example of mine is haruka from hitoribocchi isekai. hes a deranged schizo in the novel, goes on insane tangents in his own head, and comes up with the most insane ideas all of the time, but since you cant really translate that into manga they basically nerfed the fuck out of his inner monologue and we see like 5% of it.
>>270897145...'s laundry.
>>270897145If she's so strong, then how the fuck did she get raped in that one doujinshi I read the other day?
>>270897122Of course you'd know a lot about gagging. FAGGOT!
FICTION'S BANE.
>>270897067Of course not, he asked for the coolest and got the lamest instead.
>>270897160Nu-sona characters maybe, 1&2 cast can use personas whenever.
>>270891533this guy is rightlook its all fictionsyou have to look at what characters have more influence to the real worldhow many ppl would fight for that characters in the real worldthats the only way to measure fiction characters power
>>270889716It will never not be Goku. Dragon Ball (Toriyama only) is Scripture.
>>270897262He didn't post Gogeta THOUGH
>>270897094That is not dead which can eternal lie.
>>270897300Mold.>>270897262Gold.
>>270896674Arguably, even the worlds themselves are created on the spot when you enter into them. Like, the Worlds that Altair went to in order to pull characters out of them didn't exist before she went there, the act of her going there made them become real. Before that, they were just... ideas. Commonly agreed upon canon. The Selensia that got pulled out into the 'real' world in the first episode was not the Selensia of her manga or her show, she was something else... but we know that the PLACE that she came from was real enough for Souta to temporarily be there.
>gogeta Canonically weaker than Vegito.
>>270897332Not after all the retcons.Fusions have the same powerlevels now.
>>270897350>promotional toilet paper
>>270897160Sometimes they might time loop until it doesn't happen or shift to a parallel world that's more real but they live. You can't count on causality when Nyarlathotep is an actual character. He made his kingdom in the dream cycle to escape the dominion of the king in the yellow mask.
>VegitoCanonically weaker than Gogeta.
>>270897332Canon>>270897445Headcanon
>>270897160Yes, I am and isekai is culture. I haven't met a single hater who can even speak coherently. All they do is spew garbage. A normal person would be neutral about the topic. How can you not notice that character is a parody of online discussions? You have to be hella dumb. It's what it is, haters are like that.
>>270897350Depends on the fusion mechanism. Earrings are godly and multiply, dances and other spells are additive and Bulma's thing doubles the average powerlevel then docks 30%.
>>270897445Canon.>>270897332Headcanon.
>>270897474>Parody of online discussions>Said character is the weakest thing to ever exist
>>270897474>I haven't met a single hater who can even speak coherently. All they do is spew garbageOh come on, have some self-respect. Isekai crap is a cesspool of wishfulfilment and bizarre tropes that have grown more and more incestuous over time. Isekai is inspired by isekai to subvert isekai. Jist look at the titles, for god's sake. Only Korean and Chinese stuff is worse than it at this point.
GOKUUUU
>>270897474>Being snobbish about the fast-food equivalent of anime genresISHYGDDT
>>270889716Meme strength is always stronger than regular strength, so Saitama and Arale are the actual strongest
>>270895598Not possible. Actually, physically, not possible. The ability is so stupidly written you can actually do a scientific proof of it IRL to confirm it doesn't work. If it worked the way it's stated to it must necessarily affect real life if it can reach beyond anything but itself. Since it can't it's worthless against anyone outside that story.>>270895708This isn't a matter of the author's opinion, it's a matter how how he wrote the ability. If you were right I would die right now, in real life, for thinking malicious thoughts towards Yogiri. But I don't. Because his power obviously does not stretch into literally everything. It only functions because the universe he is in is created by him and he can end anything in it at will. To all universes that exist outside of him, which is every other work of fiction ever, he can do nothing because he does not have an in-built off switch for them. He can dream up a fake Goku that he made and then remove him just as easily, but that is not beating Goku because Goku does not have a random kill switch in his brain. It's literally setting up strawmen.
>>270893700he would first kill the concept of fate and then kill them
>>270897725Beerus was heavily implied to be immune to Arale's gag feats.
EGD is peak anime and manga. Anything stronger than him would need to be One Above All or Overmonitor tier if not the writer itself.
>>270897725Goku's memes are the strongest thougheverBut if we're being honest here shitposting wise it'd have to be Jiren
>>270897797Doesn't work on anything he didn't dream up in the first place. Any outside force mogs him, especially those whose domain is itself dreams. Like any basic bitch succubus gets to decide everything that happens in his world now and he can't touch her back because she's not from there.
>>270897094This nigga gets no diffed by uranium LMAO
>>270889836honestly this is the correct answer. the only thing that could counter something like this is himself.
>>270891533>>270894524bejita can only ever beat golu tho so he can’t be the best fighter and he’s not even top 10 of dragon ball with zeno being small time too lol
>>270897797>kills fate>now they're no longer fated to die
>>270897846there are entire mini arcs in the series where exactly what youre talking about doesn work. like 10D things outside of any reality we could comprehend auto die because they decide to even get near his dimension. he can kill concepts and reverse any flow of death as he sees fit. he's literally the most overpowered thing ever written i think.
>>270897847>>270897849>Cosmic Garou just fucking standing there on the other side of the planet
>>270895473shadow has lost to sonic hasn’t he? bejita has yet to lose to golu. toriyama never allowed it lol
>>270897898its a GER mind trap, the idea that he could take damage from radiation and the concept that he has taken damage are both killed, and then it auto tracks the source of the damage and kills it instantly.
>>270897879>he's literally the most overpowered thing ever written i thinkNo, because the Word of God was written 2000 years ago. Also Chink cultivation exists. I don't know how but they'd fucking find a way and say some retarded chinese proverb about hunting sticks but running into a tree.
>golu
>>270897879The idea is that his powers work because he's the concept of the "end/death" of his verse. But obviously fiction outside of his own series doesn't have Yogiri Takatou as the concept of the end so there's no reason he'd be able to just turn them off.
>Yogiricucks think a shittier version of GER solos fiction
>>270897879Yeah, mini arcs written BY THE MANGAKA, of course he's not gonna write something that can actually beat him into the story kek
>>270897879No, they're still literally within the bounds of his story and universe. The story can claim they're 'outside' it all it wants, the objectively are not and the method of control he has over them is that they are not. They are not external to a single thing, they are a higher dimension being still contained within the same setting and thus subject to his ability to end them. He has, objectively, no power whatsoever against anything outside his story.Many other stories include the characters destroying all of the multiverses or at least threatening to. How many of them ended with that villain suddenly dying because they threatened Yogiri? The answer is zero, because they are, once again for the retards in the back, objectively outside his world and his reach. For your claims to be true they must also be part of his universe and they should have automatically died for trying to annihilate him. Lets take the games from Bokurano. A setting where multiverses, allegedly all the multiverses are pitted against each other because the multiverse roughly is running out of space and needs to be downsized. So a culling game is done to prune entire universes. Yogiri's necessarily must be among this number, and necessarily he must have reacted automatically to this. Yet he doesn't. Because obviously his ability has no power outside of itself and it's setting. In overexplaining how much the ability does this or that thing it actually put hard limits on what it can affect because the author was a fucking moron who thought he could win at schoolyard "infinity+1" arguments and it backfires spectacularly to have the opposite effect.
Powerlevel fags are so cringe lol. I suppose using numbers to tell yourself how strong your favourite is, is a nice cope for when they lose and remind you of yourself.
>>270897950he straight up kills things outside of his universe, you have a flawed understanding of his powers or youre purposelly misrepresenting them
>>270897928Those are just mental abstractions. he's simply creating an illusion for himself. The radiation is still harming him
Are there any law firms that have cartoon mascots? Because I'm pretty sure law firm mascots would be the strongest characters in fiction
>>270898040"radiation has and can harm me" killed, the end. he doesn't even have to do it on purpose it happens automatically.
>>270898037He obviously doesn't and cannot. You are the one purposefully conflating was "universe" necessarily must mean in context. Once again, he cannot kill me, no matter how much ill will I wish him. His ability does not stretch beyond it's own pages. And that is not trivial, that is the exact description of how he functions, he can end things because he is the end for the things in his universe because that is the aspect of being he represents to that universe. He has an offswitch, but only to things within the pages of his own story. He objectively cannot affect things from other series even if those other series presuppose that they are destroying nearly all of reality themselves. Events like Crisis on Infinite Earths for example. He has no place there yet his ability claims that he should have. Yet obviously he doesn't and his power is described in such a way and by such a mechanism of action that this obvious inability is actually meaningful.He can dream up fake versions of people and then kill them in his dream, if he wants. But you know what? So can you. You can have a dream where you conjure Goku and beat him. And it's just as meaningful that you can do that as any win you can claim he gets against ersatz opponents.
>>270898072Mickey Mouse might as well be. He's been fucking up copyright law for nearly 100 years.
>>270897990HOLY TRVTH NVKEI kneel...
>>270898142>Once again, he cannot kill me,thank you for letting me know i didn't need to read anything else you said lmao
>>270898037>he straight up kills things outside of his universeStill part of his multiverse, still tied to him as the concept of the end. I know his power isn't limited to a single "world", but due to the very way it works and has been described it absolutely shouldn't work outside of the setting where he exists as the "end", whatever is the scope of his setting overall by the end of his series.For example, if you pick a DC Comic book, it has its own cosmic definitions and incarnations of death, oblivion, non-existence, etc and you obviously can't just declare that he rules over those concepts in an entirely unrelated cosmology, but you'd need that to be confirmed in order for his power to work over them.
Yogiricucks become the very thing they swore to destroy.
>>270898258Became Is what I meant to type
>>270898242This, Marvel has it's own death, he can't kill death because he's death. This is just a long winded version of pitting the Grimm Reaper against Goku.
>>270898209The Flash is faster than death and the intent of death btw, him and Sonic speedblitz + oneshot.
>>270898209>thank you for letting me know i didn't need to read anything else you said lmaoThat's a nice cope you have there. Unfortunately for you as stupid as this sounds, that's not a trivial thing to not be able to do when discussing his "ability". If he works the way the story states he does and you say he works outside of his own story then necessarily he must be able to kill and obviously, objectively cannot. If he can't then his powers don't work the way you infer them to and they are boxed entirely within his own setting.Virtually no other character has this issue, because none of them are so stupid as to overexplain the character's abilities to such a degree in a vain attempt to make him invincible and all it amounts to is he has the same abilities as any dreaming human.
>>270897749>To all universes that exist outside of him, which is every other work of fiction ever, he can do nothing>has no power outside of itself and it's setting. That's a weird thing to get hung up on. You don't need Toriyama to say in an interview "Goku's blast wouldn't work irl *raughs*". Would the interview change anything? Duh. Of course, ki doesn't exist irl. You have to overthink things to make something like Overlord vs Goku even work. What about any god in anime from any verse? lol.
>>270898344>ki doesn't exist irl>he doesn't know
>>270890637>>270894925>Written by: Tsuyoshi Fujitaka>"Even if it's a character from another work, if we follow the setting, there's no way they can beat Takato Yorugiri." He was the strongest protagonist in all genres.http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/253246https://w.atwiki.jp/saikyousyujinnkou3/pages/3293.html
>>270898338Pretty compelling. This is the same way that "god" characters who rule their own verse can't do the same to other series because they're obviously not the ones in control there. They might still have powers but obviously it'd be dependant on what would logically carry over.
>>270898427
>>270898427GODiyama said Goku is the strongest though. I trust His words over this false prophet, this lie spreader, this snake-tongued beast.
>>270898446>Toriyama LITERALLY exists in DBZOh right, forgot about that. Nevermind, pack it up.
>>270898242I don't know why more anons don't bring this up about retarded powerlevel arguments. I never read JJK and have always described it as being outside their "domain". I like how Marvel flat out lets Darkseid scare you with them just to reveal the Infinity Stones don't work entirely in another verse because they're completely disconnected from whatever powers them. I say the Death Note logically shouldn't even work on anyone outside the verse, either.
>>270898427>>270898437The monster capable of devouring the Multiverse was easily killed by Yogiri Takatou.
>>270898344>That's a weird thing to get hung up on.No it isn't. It's core to the hypotheticals about how his ability functions. His ability functions, extremely strictly because he has been given purview over the "end". Anything he has purview over, which in his own story is claimed to be "everything", he can end. But anything he does not have purview over he logically cannot end. For his own story the author desperately claims he has to have power outside of himself, but objectively this is a physical impossibility, it is a stupid thing to say. Various comics have written the author in as God or had Deadpool "kill" the authors of the very comic itself. These are also impossible. You can say that, it's objectively untrue. Therefore it is not actually an ability the character possesses. In your effort to say your character is the strongest you failed and actually boxed him into your own myopic little world.Goku fires energy, energy can be understood and compared and discussed. It's affect on other materials can be argued about, and so on. But Yogiri, because his ability is overexplained is entirely binary. If you are a character from his story then you lose, if you are not a character from his story then he has no special power over you. Then for powerlevels that moves onto the second step, which is that just because he can't kill a character doesn't mean that character can necessarily kill him either. And what that character needs to kill is even up for debate. Killing Yogiri, a human body, isn't very hard, but he's just an avatar for the end being that has no real description or feats to compare to.Azathoth is basically the same type of being, he obviously is not dreaming every other world, so characters outside his dream can fight him. But he's a giant meatball, a character would need at least continental firepower to win. The end in death cheat has no such description, so it's pointless to argue about.
>>270897298Fun fact: Goku became a super saiyan a month after losting to Vegeta.
>>270898484This poster is the "END" of Yogirifags. Possibly even the "DEATH" of them.
>>270889836Yeah, this guy.
>>270898427Didn't you retards throw up "death of the author" as your first defense? So which is it? Is death of the author in effect or is his word gospel? I can tell you that even if you want to take his word as gospel his word is literally as meaningless to this discussion as mine or any other person. Nobody made him in charge. I can say Powerman no diff solos with exactly as much confidence and exactly as much weight.If the creator of Dilbert said he could kill Goku in a fist fight and Toriyama's ghost said Goku could obliterate Dilbert's whole universe in a second which one of them becomes right?
>>270898427That description is not fully consistent with what's shown in story. I'm pulling the death of the author card for this one
>>270898533Samefag kek
>>270898540I have no dog in this fight but I'm inclined to believe the talking ghost in this scenario.
>>270898473>I say the Death Note logically shouldn't even work on anyone outside the verse, either.The Death Note is using the power of a Shinigami, which is a supernatural being with particular parameters. It's setting dependent how people would likely interact. Characters in Bleach are themselves shinigami and thus not even subject to a death note even before raising questions on if someone could fight one. The rules of a death note are also very picky and specifically say a human whose name is written. So all non-humans should likewise be immediately immune. Like Goku.
>>270898540>If the creator of Dilbert said he could kill Goku in a fist fight and Toriyama's ghost said Goku could obliterate Dilbert's whole universe in a second which one of them becomes right?CHADiyama.
Is Jiren a Demonbane?
>>270898588Thought the logo in the top left was the liveleak logo kek
>>270897749>The ability is so stupidly written you can actually do a scientific proof of it IRL to confirm it doesn't workAlright buddy, prove you can destroy multiverses from your seat and then you can make an argument, but then you would need to prove that one of the universes you targeted had Yogiri in it...
EN to the motherfucking TERI AM THE WHITE VOIDI AM THE COLD STEELI AM THE JUST SWORD
>>270898648That's not fair, you know he can't do that...
>>270898648No limits fallacy, bitch
>>270898651I AM HAKUMENTHE END HAS COME
>>270897898>>270897928This literally happens in the anime, the result is Yogiri killing the source of the radiation before it has an effect on him.
Madokami
>>270898083The same ability allows his ability to harm himself to be harmed, so it destroys itself.
Actually Chihiro Rokuhira is the strongest because Kagurabachi is my favorite manga right now
>428 posts later>everyone here is STILL too scared to reply to the VERY first post ITTSeems like we got our winner!
>>270898716LMAO this nigga gets no diffed by Ditto
>>270898673Read the chain of replies bitch, the dude argument is that he's thinking in killing Yogiri right now and nothing happening to him, hence Yogiri powers can't affect him, but the fact is that he never had a chance, to prove his scientific experiment he would need to do what I'm describing first, until that happens his argument is flawed.
>>270898648>prove you can destroy multiverses from your seatWhy would I need to prove that? My abilities aren't the ones being discussed. But if we are then Predators consider me the next step in human evolution so that has to count for something.>but then you would need to prove that one of the universes you targeted had Yogiri in it...For his ability to work this one has to have him in it. And all he requires as a trigger is malice. Not actual ability or any action being taken at all, and he automatically kills whatever is thinking badly about him.
>>270898708...loses to my cock
>>270898736>to prove his scientific experiment he would need to do what I'm describing firstIncorrect. Intent to kill, not ability to do so, not action taken is the trigger. Just thinking you want to is sufficient.
>>270889822Oneshot by Yujiro.
>>270898484>Goku fires energy, energy can be understood and compared and discussed. It's affect on other materials can be argued about, and so on.Goku can fire things because "chi" is a force that exists in the setting of Dragonball. There's also the concept of "powerlevels".I could decide that in my setting ki exists but is weaker, ki doesn't exist, the laws of physics are so grounded the blast doesn't happen, etc.DoTA(Death of the Author). It's up to me to decide how it happens. I interpret it based on what the work says, not the author. You're taking literally an explanation that's not in the fucking work.
>>270898725Dumb fuck
>>270898748Fuck you talking about dude, someone just thinking in getting rid of him doesn't trigger anything unless those thoughts are having a direct effect on him, you see this in the same show with people plotting on how to kill him.
Realistically, a high caliber sniper could kill goku. Saiyans are paper tigers unless theyre powered up and even then suffocation, drowning and poisoing are all valid ways to handle them. Its actually insane goku cant breathe in space by now
>>270898725Easily defeated by a low tier guy.
>>270898696He can't kill what's already dead though. What is he supposed to do in series where being dead just means you have an angels halo
>>270898831>random isekai jap in my HERO'S son's second fitBlasphemous. Get that shit off my screen NOW.
>>270898835If he can kill gravity, he can kill the dead. He even aludes the fact he can kill space with a single utterance....shine.
desu
>>270898791>I could decide that in my setting ki exists but is weaker, ki doesn't exist, the laws of physics are so grounded the blast doesn't happen, etc.Yes, and so discussions about the abilities and how they interact happen.>DoTA(Death of the Author). It's up to me to decide how it happens.Okay? But you're arguing in defense of Yogiri doing whatever because the author said so.>I interpret it based on what the work says, not the author.Yes, that's what I'm doing. You're the ones constantly bringing up that death of the author somehow helps you prove what the author says is true. I don't honestly get it.>You're taking literally an explanation that's not in the fucking work.No I'm not. I'm taking what the ability is said to be and why its said to be that. The mechanism of action is explained, so the only consideration is scope. And objectively the ability does not work on things that if it did work in the way it's said to and you say it works it would have to work on. So the scope is limited. Based on the method of action that scope is that story and nothing else.A character with a more generalized ability "can create universes" "controls the concept of endings" is stronger, because there isn't an inherent scope presented in the ability. You might think that last one describes Yogiri but it doesn't he is "controls the concept of endings within his world". In an effort to make him "stronger" the author created convoluted situations that actually put rails on it. By whacking himself off about the mechanical action of how he can end things because he controls them and this is inbuilt as a law of the universe essentially he has put scope to it.Death in various settings lacks scope, they are some entity that is the concept of Death itself. And you can have lots of arguments about that because the scope and limit of that is unclear. Those are probably unproductive, but you can have them.Yogiri by contrast has obvious and clearly defined scope to his ability.
>>270898852You goat gets no diffed by heart disease, anon. Fully powered up, he couldnt even tank a nuke because its more than physical force. Its oxygen deprivation, its cell shredding light and its radiation poisoning. Until ki shield can block disease, light and produce oxygen. Hes fodder bro
>>270898855>If he can kill gravity, he can kill the deadLITERAL HEADCANON. Holy FUCKING reach. It's over. He lost. King Kai, Deadman, Andy, Kamina's lingering presence all BTFO him
I'm not replying twice, the intent to kill needs to have an effect to trigger Instant Death, up to the moment you give your thought an effect Yogiri can still kill you but by choice, Yogiri right now be like "man this faggot on a taiwanese puppet board is thinking in killing me but the faggot can't do shit, I'll let him keep making shit arguments".
>>270898818>you see this in the same show with people plotting on how to kill himYeah, and they just fall over for doing so. No plan is needed or ability to act is needed. The "limitations" are based on how many gates or seals or whatever the fuck he called them are open at any time.
>>270898578None of the retards on the internet shitposting about the Death Note killing someone like Goku even read the very first chapter and it shows every time. He might even be immune entirely even if it applied beyond their weak ass Shinigami just because the SSJG ritual literally turned him into a deity and not even the original usage of ningen would mean shit anymore. Toriyama said everything is canon, so I'm using being immune to Demigra's magic for a direct example.
>>270889716KNEEL there is a kirby anime fuck off
>>270898886Bullshit. He tanks plasma capable of blowing up moons
>>270898886>Unironically claiming GODku is sub-nuke levelMeanwhile he tanked the radiation from flying right next to a sun, and was completely fine in the anime. He went inside the black holes in the ToP that the fat bitch made in SHITper, and was completely fine.
>>270898894Not headcanon, he kills concept, abilities. Goku gets brutally embarrassed. Like that time he has a heart attacks and tries to KI boost through it, IN SUPER SAIYAN NO LESS EMBARRASSING
>>270889836But can he kill my virginity?
The people here are fucking dogshit at power scaling.Or I'm just autistic
>>270898897You dont really even need intent, if your action would have resulted in his death you die instead. Remember when that hitman tried to get around his ability? Dude had zero killing intent and was forced to pull the trigger and still died.
>>270898897Again, you don't even need me even though that cliches it. Crisis on Infinite Earths blew up multiple realities that necessarily must contain him. Gig in Soul Nomad and the World Eaters annihilated literally all of existence in a bad end. He's actually a very similar being, he is "death" the end of everything and that's why he can do that. Yogiri didn't stop either event. He obviously can't, that's not how his ability works because he is a fictional character with a retarded author who thinks he can win arguments by saying the power actually works outside his own stories. Which just conclusively proves that it doesn't and thus limits it entirely to those stories.
>>270898938>>270898886>literally recreates his own heart somehowIt's alright, he's stronger than heart attacks now. Hell, he's stronger than heart disintegrations, even.
>>270898935Cosmic radiation has literally never been mentioned in dragon ball, i half believe gravity doesnt exist given how often the moon gets nuked.
On a meta-contextual level, author characters are the "theoretical" limits of a fictional character's strength, and we know Jocko could 100% beat the fucking SHIT out of Featherine's creator.Whichever anime character objectively represents this conundrum is the strongest.
>>270898169He's also been getting raped in Chinese media for 100 years.
>>270898926Yeah those are just physical force but tbf if he werent powered up he'd get destroyed. Its hilarious how weak base goku is
>>270898989Why the fuck would radiation not exist? This is like the guys who need to see a sky with stars in it to believe Bleach's living world is a normal universe.
>>270898279Marvel's Death is just a skeleton with tits. She's been overpowered a couple times, once by a cosmic simp. Not like Death of the Endless.
Yogiri would get raped in Chinese cultivation shit. Just saying. Yes they are that ridiculous
>>270899038Yeah, overpowered by guys who would eat Yogiri for breakfast. That doesn't make her weak, it just makes them that much stronger.
>>270899028It makes sense kinda, the chances of life in other parts of the galaxy are low as shit because of its radiation hellzone but in dragon ball thats literally never an issue and not only that, bulmas passed by stars too dude. Space radiation isnt a thing in dragon ball, i doubt that boomer toriyama even knows what it is
>>270898989If it exist in our world we are safe to assume it exist in a fiction world unless explicitly stated otherwise >>270899017Base Goku has tanked attacks from moon level forces. Read the OG dragon ball and Z.
>>270899102Ok fine. Oxygen deprivation then, he takes a nuke to the face, passes out and gets cooked alive.
>>270899053LMAO this nigga gets no diffed by rice.
>>270898344If we all think it does and it effects us doesn't it? If only material things exist then God and Pi don't exist. Ki is the number of years spent to reproduce the observable effects of telekinesis.
>>270898994>Realistically, a high caliber sniper could kill goku.
>>270899115Just teleport out
>>270899127meant to reply to >>270898831
>>270899120>Yogiri, You have eyes, but you do not see Mount Tai. You are but a frog in the well.
I can't for the life of me find that power man ms paint comic
>>270898592No. He's recently been overshadowed by Charles Bronson reincarnated as an Orc.
>>270898881>Yogiri by contrast has obvious and clearly defined scope to his ability.That you got from an author interview.>Okay? But you're arguing in defense of Yogiri doing whatever because the author said so.I'm worried there's a weird criteria being applied. >A character with a more generalized ability "can create universes" "controls the concept of endings" is stronger, because there isn't an inherent scope presented in the ability.It's implied that they're using their ability in their setting/multiverse. They do this by definition. By your criteria, the very fact a multiverse with its own quirks was presented in Dragon Ball should automatically exclude and nerfs it. Goku is blasting things in his world. Zeno is erasing universes in his world. This is obvious because I can SEE it happening.>he is "controls the concept of endings within his world". You have yet to show a statement that explains his power and says IN the story and not from an outside source. It would probably simply say he's the "end of all things".
>>270899136>>270899115No need, he could eat that sucker, he's straight up fought in lava before.
>>270898592Demonbane is Jiren's cupholder
>>270899152It's fine, I would have responded with Shaggy anyway.
>>270898791I think shota Goku enters a conceptual space where Ki is weaker and magic is simpler in GT at some point. Escapes by strategy. I'm pretty sure that happens in whatever show Lum is from too.
>>270898831You only say that because he in fact hired a high caliber sniper to kill him for training and he died.
>Herro, ferrow anime fans...
Fucking hell, I wanted to jack off, instead I spent all this time posting here. Guess that might've been for the best, tho
Lord English's time fuckery makes him the strongest
>>270899072The original Infinity Gauntlet basically grants his powerset geared towards creation. But you could use it to create the absence of things to recreate it, and in fact the cosmic simp does that. Even in the movie.
>>270890315Goku can move through frozen time which means that he can attack before anybody can activate their ability.He also knows ultra instinct which instinctively can dodge non-physical attacks as seen with Moro.His power during the ToP was big enough to shake the infinite space that contains the 12 infinite universes and he has only gotten exponentially stronger in the arcs after that.So nobody in that image can land an attack on him and he has the power to one-shot all of them.Goku wins.
>>270896062>vsbwHow about you just watch the shows and calculate the feats, lazy bastard?
>>270896088MY FAVORITE CÚCKS!
>>270896596Yep yep, this is why SUPER TENGEN TOPPA GURREN LAGANN is the strongest of all
Forget who's the strongest. Who's the GAYEST character of all time?
>>270898976>Crisis on Infinite EarthsThis is the weird criteria I'm talking about. You realize Crisis happened in the DC multiverse, right? Gig wasn't erasing the Marvel multiverse or rl in that story, neither was Crisis. It happened in their own settings.>he is a fictional character with a retarded author who thinks he can win arguments by saying the power actually works outside his own stories. Weren't you arguing that the author said the opposite a minute ago? I'm worried you've gone full retard here.
>>270899317This has nothing to do with the question but who's your favorite character, anon?
Xeno Gogeta solos.>solos what?Solos.
>>270889836Easily jobs to go beyond.
>>270889836Crazy because this is actually this first thing to come to mind. Anime doesnt really do his powerlevel justice. LN is way crazier. Author really was jerking to the idea of Death personified.
Totsuka blade gg thread
>>270898976Not to nitpick but Gig did shit all but get eaten by Revya, Who is in essence just (you) in the demon path bad end.
>>270891841>He gets no diffed by those he does not perceiveIts not based on what he perceives. He's basically a conceptual entity that took human form. He basically has access to causality threads and typically reserves his ability for anything that causes him harm but thats by choice. Its more like accelerators ability in that it just autoworks.
>>270897725>>270897822>Beerus was heavily implied to be immune to Arale's gag feats.>Filler episodeAlso Beerus kneeled to the poop gag, he's fodder.
>>270899214it's a cunning disguise
>>270899317https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1725962716209270.webm
Korosensei
Mario scales over comics, which scale over anime.
>>270889716Bobobo.
>>270898977That wasn't a heart virus or disease attack. And required the opponent to leave him alone for a ki revive to work.
Can't beat what you can't see
>>270899214kek
>>270898894Many characters can stomp Yogiri, but Goku is not one of them, at least not the super version of him, if you take the strongest versions of Goku he may indeed be able to defeat Yogiri.
>>270889836He runs into a being from a stronger verse and is destroyed.The whole point is that Yogiri is stronger than everyone else in his verse, which is why his ability overwhelms that of everyone else in it, the author himself explained that among omnipotent beings the winner is the one with the highest level of power.This doesn't mean that this is the case with other verses, beings from verses with greater cosmologylike Featherine, Hajun and Akuto would stomp him like trash.
The best power tier is characters that can beat up krillin but not any other other db character.
>>270890786>This is no longer a comedy, because I said so, so rule of funny no longer applies.And then she slips on a banana peel because this is a comedy nnd her powers to alter it are undone by the comedy factor.
>>270890315Lord of Nightmares is a joke. They can literally be summoned at will by random Wizards. What a featless piece of shit they are.
>>270890315Popeye beats them all. Not Doraemon though. They just chill and eat Spinach and Doraemon teaches Popeye abut Spinach n' shit.
>>270897749>If you were right I would die right now, in real life, for thinking malicious thoughts towards Yogiri. But I don't. Because his power obviously does not stretch into literally everything. It only functions because the universe he is in is created by him and he can end anything in it at will. To all universes that exist outside of him, which is every other work of fiction ever, he can do nothing because he does not have an in-built off switch for them. He can dream up a fake Goku that he made and then remove him just as easily, but that is not beating Goku because Goku does not have a random kill switch in his brain. It's literally setting up strawmen.This is the dumbest thing I heard....EVER.The most brain-dead, retarded, nonsensical jumble of worlds ever concieved.Do I even need to explain just how retarded that logic is? Because you can use that reasoning for every god-like character, ever.
>>270898142>His ability does not stretch beyond it's own pages.You mean like EVERY SINGEL FICTIONAL BEING... EVER?Why doesn't Goku/superman/Demonsbane/whatever blow me up right now? He can't because he's WEAK.Godfuckingdammit, they only thing that is infinite and beyond comprehension is your level or stupid.
>Timestops>Casts instant death that bypasses all defenses and immunities
>>270894746Not even the strongest in his verse.
>>270898835Ghosts have invaded the Earth in DBZ and they've easily send them back.>>270900065You what's faster than an attosecond? Zero seconds.Goku can move through frozen time. And the Flash can't tank Goku's hits.>>270901640Goku moves through frozen time before Einz can finish his spell and punches him into a bloody pulp, because Ainz couldn't activate his buffSee pic rel. But Goku was the first to do it in only the 3rd arc of Super.
