Chapter 25.5(?) translation is out, dumping.
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>>272312846Was it rape?
>>272312891
>>272312919O MAH GAWD
>>272312951
>>272312981ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?End chapter
>>272313011So, they're really stretching this thing. Last 4 chapters could've been less than two.
Wow 2 weeks for nothing
>>272312831>>272313011>Maruto-sensei: Here's the update for chapter 26.... or rather, chapter 25.5. As for why I made this an interlude, it's because the storyline is different between the manga version and the novel version, so there's no cannon to base this on. FYI, the reason why the storyline's different is because one of them... is but Yami-senpai's fantasy.W-What did he mean by this?Novel version in JP:https://note.com/saranami/n/n95a1735d75ecJudging by Google Translate, it looks like she kisses his cheek there to avoid waking him up before leaving. But before that, she does try laying her naked showered body on him too, without effect.
>>272313393Sounds like the manga extra chapter is the fantasy version. What she'd like to do after kissing him the first time, but ultimately leaving him sleeping there.
[chair clattering]
>>272312831btw the title of the chapter is Goodbye Kiss
>>272313011My god just get on with it please.
Two weeks for this.
do you think yom was pissed that he'd prefer to draw more graphic version of the sex instead of this?
>>272313751That’s been this whole Yami diversion. I was excited to see how her story developed in parallel with Hikari’s but it’s been a whole lot of nothing interesting so far. At least we got some sex out of it I guess.
>>272312919>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011BASED!!also>ntr for men>established relationship with the ntr'd>girl gets screwed over or raped by NTR guy>NTR has no mind or reason beyond dick>sexsexesex>loses to the DLame, basically porn with extra steps, and inherently gay because it's focused on the guy's feelings.>women's ntr>NTR girl just meets the guy>it's their own love story>ntr'd girl just too slow>life lessons taught and learnedInsightful, deep, and correctly focuses on the feelings of females.
>>272313011This is why I'm here!Cute! Cute! Cute!
>>272313011This story doesn't make sense, if a teenage boy was getting pussy on the regular, there's no way he would abandon it to go chasing a childhood friend.
>>272313011Hikaribros...>>272313393>>272313449I'm surprised he went for two versions that make a significant difference to the score between the two girls, so to speak. If the manga version were canon, it would've reinforced the contrast between Yami's directness and Hikari's stage-setting attempts. But making Yami chicken out in the canon(?) novel version makes them more similar in a way. The thematic message is (potentially) pretty different between the two, so I'm surprised he published both.
>>272314676He clearly wanted more clicks on the web novel version. That's all there's to it.
>>272314612>on the regularI thought them meeting in Hikari's school was supposed to be some sort of reunion? Like they haven't met in a while for reasons unknown
>>272314612They broke up. We don't know exactly why yet.>>272314676The followup implications are pretty different too. The novel version leaves open the possibility of it being a one-night stand. With the manga version, not a chance.
>>272314164That's because "women's ntr" isn't ntr. bss is its own thing, but manga fans on either side of the Pacific who are rounding middle age with no prospects over ever touching a boob are broadly incapable of seeing nuance.
>>272312891>>272312919>>272312981>>272313011How Hikari can even compete? Yumi is best girl by far
>>272314612They broke up
>>272313011IT'S OVER! YOU HEAR ME?! OVER!!
>>272313011>>272315422Now I feel like watching that again.
>>272314164>He's not dating Hikari>Hikari doesn't like him>Somehow this is NTRI'm reminded of an "NTR" doujin I saw recently which had Sasuke getting his mother NTR'd from him by her having sex with his father. Yes. Somehow the definition of NTR has stretched all the way around to the point where a woman *not* cheating on her husband is NTR.
>>272315501Now talk about the present.>Hikari likes him>Yami knows Hikari likes him>He may or may not like Hikari>Yami makes a move anywaysgeez why are people calling this NTR?
GIWTWM
>>272315613Hikari's interest in the boy after his relationship with Yami had run its course. And even if it hadn't, it still wouldn't be NTR. NTR is stealing an existing relationship partner through overwhelming sexual prowess. BSS, or "boku ga saki ni suki datta no ni" is literally "but I liked him/her first..." and that's what's going on here.
>>272315501yeah, the term has completely lost its meaning
>>272312951Girl not going back without doing some rape kek
>>272313011It's completely over for Hikari. How does she recover from this? There's no way to do it
>>272314612When did he chase the childhoodfriend? Where you under the impression that Hikari was a reliable narrator?
>>272315289Yumi Yami Yummy
>>272313393Most high ranked Narou trash are better written than this wtf?
>>272314676yeah it totally changes the scene for the worse
>>272316386Nah, it gives a much stronger emotional connection. It's great.It's nice to have a teenage boy that actually acts like a teenage boy and has interest in sex beyond saving himself for his one true love. I loved that about Oreimo too.
>>272316521Anon. Kyousuke and Kuroneko never banged, stop coping.
>>272316521no i was agreeing, the manga version is both more authentic in a general sense and also, imo, feels more true to how she's characterized & positioned
>>272312891Kazusa flashbacks. She truly is best girl.
>>272313393Possible author is prepping for 2 different endings
>>272316622No, but when he had a chance to get a girlfriend he immediately went for it and just as quickly fell in love with the idea of being in love. It's one of my favourite arcs in anime because even if you knew it wouldn't work out, it was a teenage boy acting like one. He didn't run away from the idea of sex/love, he was really, really excited to have a girlfriend, he was awkward and clumsy about how far he could go with her. He wasn't worried about destiny or saving himself for his one true love, he was high on life. And the same for Kuroneko, who was so happy she became Shironeko. Even if it had to all come crashing down, I really loved the author for putting such a normal teenage storyline in the series. It stands out so much stronger than an those "Eh? Nandate?" type MCs, or those like Kogarashi that couldn't date anyone unless it was true love. >>272316652Ah my bad, sorry.
>rating still going downoh no no no ahahaha
>>272316652On the other hand, the novel version dwells more on how innocent he looks asleep and how she doesn't want to mess up his life after all, if that's an element in their breakup. I just realized that's part of why it gives more of a one-night-stand vibe.>>272316716Ah shit, I could see a nonzero chance of that. I can't decide whether hesitating makes her more likely to win or more likely to lose.
>>272317357I like how both sides are getting satisfaction from this for their own reasons.
>>272317640I sure laugh at those asking for this self-published work to be axed
>>272317709Honestly, after Engage Kiss and this the author should seriously consider suicide. Maybe it will do well to his reputation like with Souseki or Dazai.
Can this shit get cacelled already?It's NTR but without the porn so it's just pointless
>Still no yandere childhood friendChrist, how long must we wait?
>>272317907How many chapters did Hikari's volume get?
>>272318099ninety-something pages
>>272318129Should be the same for Yami then, but in half the amount of chapters as they're longer now
hahahaha yescan't wait for the seethe
>>272313011They went at it again?
>>272318235But only in the manga, seems like there was more depth+less seggs in the novel chapter
>>272318235Obviously, seems like they really clicked.Now I'm really wondering why they broke up, I hope it's not something retarded like letting the other girl date him, because that trope is beyond retarded and never makes sense, nobody would leave their love to please someone else.
Yami is going to win because she is actually in love with HIM, while Hikari is in love with her mind construct of who she thinks he is when she really doesn't know him well at all.
>>272318303nobody would leave their love to please someone elseThis is a source of easy wtf drama in many romcom
>>272318303>Obviously, seems like they really clicked.>Now I'm really wondering why they broke up, I hope it's not something retarded like letting the other girl date him, because that trope is beyond retarded and never makes sense, nobody would leave their love to please someone else.Unlikely as he was dating his Kouhai for a while
>>272318303My impression was always that this was just a one time thing. She specifically says she was too cowardly to ask for his contact details. I think they had sex, then went their separate ways. He doesn't realise how much he meant to her, so he just put it out of his mind and focused on Hikari. She tried to do the same when she found out he was the guy Hikari liked, and outright tried to avoid him at the festival.
It doesn't matter what happensIt will be a dramafest
>>272318422It looked like he just rejected kouhai when she confessed to him.>>272318522That'd be possible with the novel version where she lets him sleep, but much less likely in the manga version where she changes her mind and mouthrapes him awake.
>>272318522Pretty sure Yami herself said that Yuu was her former BF. So they must have gone steady even if it’s for a short while.
>>272318422You mean one date that wasn't a date?
>>272317842but there's no ntr
Are the people claiming this to not be NTR not aware that for most people BSS is still largely considered just a sub-genre of NTR if sex and attraction are involved?
>>272319176Well, BSS is short for "but I liked them first", but here the feMC didn't even like him first.
>>272319239A lot of people seem to be forgetting this whole Yami stuff is a flashback and not the present, in the context of the present it's plainly framed as cuckshit.
>>272319176I'm usually very willing to stretch definitions for NTR, because I get it, it's about having something precious stolen from you. That's why there can be Mother NTR or Sister NTR even if the guy never had any incestuous intentions towards his mother or sister. But here it feels pretty loose indeed.Remember, this happens 1.5 years before the main story. > They're not together > FeMC doesn't like him romantically and would have rejected him if he confessed > He believes his chance to be with her is over and this is at least partially him coping with that lossThat's not NTR. Okay, so BSS?>Yami liked him firstDoesn't seem like BSS either. Just feels like she acted too late.
>>272312831sorry, i dont read manga with NTR
>>272318522>My impression was always that this was just a one time thing.she calls him her ex-boyfriend in both versions though
Honestly I hope Hikari just NOPES out of this clusterfuck, because even if she was too start dating this dude, it wouldn't work out as she is too innocent and looking for that type of relationship.Both of them would just be thinking about the fact that he was fucking the best friend anytime they are together.
>>272319360Also worth remembering that this series seems to be following or examining the usual way childhood friend characters lose. They just get too comfortable, thinking they have all the time in the world, and never manage to get their feelings across before it's too late. Was Nisekoi an NTR/BSS story? From Onodera's perspective, it's a story of how she took so long to confess that Raku fell out of love with her and she got replaced in his heart with Chitoge. Hikari has had all the time in the world to confess, she would have won thousands of times over, she went on a date with him and still didn't say anything. Everything happening at the festival is because she was so concerned with setting up the big, perfect storybook confession, rather than just telling him her feelings. Meanwhile, Yami has been telling her since the start that she should forget about these big dramatic acts and just be honest with him, which is exactly what she did.
>>272319429I hope she doesn't, because I will laugh so hard if the MC winds up taking both Yami and Hikari's virginity
>>272314612he didnt do shit, he doesnt even like the childhood friend anymore, the CF was being delusional
>>272319474>thinking they have all the time in the world, and never manage to get their feelings across before it's too late.it's not even that really, since she didn't have feelings until recently. it's more the story of hikari finding out that she's not the main character of everyone else's lives.
>>272319360Then you look at how the story was told and not just the contents. Many chapters of showing Hikari's affection, then her "rival" who's aware of said feelings still acts on it to take him.NTR is a lot about framing and intent too. In Raise wa Tanin ga Ii that's airing this season the ML sleeps around a lot with other women. The FL is aware and even knew about it before we, the audience, are shown it for the first time, but she doesn't give much of a shit so it cannot even be qualified as netorase. It might turn into that later as her feelings grows and she starts caring about other women taking her man and the story starts indulging into her negative feelings about the situation.
>>272319494Well the author did that in that VN, which was fucking stupid.Hell, didn't he have the male lead cheat on his wife again in one of the endings, and the dumb bitch actually forgiving him instead of just leaving his ass?Like all his female characters have zero self respect.
>>272319379but there isn't any
there's already a theme with where the narrators look. hikari always looks forward but aya always looks back. the choice is between the girl who is trying the fix the past retroactively and the girl who has a vision (however stupid) for the future. hikari is going to win, btw. there's no future with yami
I only picked this up when I saw the page where yami kissing him getting spammed here, so I never give a shit about Hikari. It's more enjoyable that way.
>>272319702Holy shoehorn.
>>272319758>he's not ragesexual
>>272319762literally every aya chapter is her looking backwards at something
>>272319758Same but I ended up liking both of them. The real rest of Hikari's character, in both senses, will be how she reacts anyway.
>>272319758Yeah, I came for the twist. I can absolutely understand the people who followed this for a year of pure silly fluff being pissed off, but that's not me.
>>272319877I hope they pull another NTR trope and Hikari ends up fucking his dad or older brother or someone more manly with a deep connection to him, and his relationship with Yami once again goes to shit. I love when double NTR happens,
>>272320125>Wanting to ruin an interesting premise with dumb hentai tropes >Literally posts a page from a porn manga to backup his argument Brain rot.
>>272320238This shit is already netorare but without the explicit porn, don’t fool yourself thinking this is good writing or a good premise, so why not go all the way?
>>272312831Hikarifags, if they still exist, must be on fucking suicide watch at this point goddamn. Yamichads rise up, our girl is the winner of winners.
>>272312981>>272320450Damn, Yami's kisses just so hot every time.
>>272320416Brain rot.
>>272320450The feet all the way out like that is such an amazing touch
So what’s Hikari’s role now? She literally can’t win, unless she tries to break them up but that doesn’t fit her personality at all.
>>272320746>Delusional for +5 chapters >Confronts yami, is seen as the villain >Goes yandere route
>>272314612Are you retard or npc who doesn't understand the concept of linear time?This isn't current day, this is still flashback to day 2 or 3 of when these two had just met and forming the beginning of their relationship, before Hikari even started liking him.
>>272314676>novel and manga are divergent>n-no this isn't the canon see waaahLooking forward to people coping with that life raft in the future.Author probably decided to split it to cover his bases because of butthurt backlash by idiots who can't just enjoy a story without autism freakout.
>>272320746battle shonen fight with yami
>>272319848That's not "trying to fix the past retroactively", and I'm not even sure if you're referring to her life problems, or just the first-person narration itself. Meanwhile, Hikari has a lot of chapters just thinking back on how Yuu was like as a kid.Ironically, it's Yuu who was obsessed with the past and his own inadequacies, and Yami is the one showing him there's a life after Hikari.
>>272319429There will be so much rage crying if Hikari does the mature thing and realize her feelings were immature and opts to cherish her friendship with both of them instead and support them.
>>272319474>she went on a date with himIt wasn't even a "date" or at least he didn't view it that way, to him she just strongarmed him into helping with some errands.
>>272319545>her "rival" who's aware of said feelings still acts on it to take him.You are jumping to conclusions. At this point in flashback Yami has no idea he is Hikari's childhood friend, and Hikari doesn't even like him like that yet.There's nothing to "take"
>>272319848>yami likes taking it from behindhot
>>272312981>>272313011this shit is worse than douki, the retarded MC has no chance
>>272321209at this point yami has no idea who hikari even is, she hasn't started attending her school
>>272321209>Then you look at how the story was told and not just the contents. Many chapters of showing Hikari's affection, then her "rival" who's aware of said feelings still acts on it to take him.I'm talk about the present you fucking retard, are you incapable of reading? She did kiss Yuu in the fucking classroom and she knew what she was doing.
>>272320125Oh this is just like MC's situation in Revenge of Soul Eater
>>272313011Why are we supposed to root for Hikari again?
>>272321099It goes both ways too, her problems aren't exactly about fixating on the past as directly as Yuu (though it's still pretty present looming over everything with her dead dad and all) but connecting with him also gave her support and seemingly whatever it was she needed to stay in school and not just give up like she was doing when they met both times. The mutuality without their characters and situations being directly comparable is nice, feels real, hope we get more of it before the inevitable breakup flashback drama and current day drama.
>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011>tfw you'll never fix a bad bitch
>>272320450The tiptoes kiss out of the shoes is the killshot. She literally CANNOT compete with something that sweet and cute.
>>272320450who? you mean that background character with the weird braids?
>>272319545Yeah, to be fair, imagine being an OG Hikarifag reading >>272313011 in contrast with >>272314676. It's hard NOT to take that as Maruto personally teabagging your shipper corpse.It makes me wonder if this is the start of a sequence where Yami x Yuu go through several more scenes echoing earlier Hikari x Yuu scenes, but with more mutual chemistry.>Catch him masturbating? Ends in sex.>Indirect kissu? Ends in sex.>First date? Ends in sex.>Misunderstanding? Sex.>Argument in the rain? Sex.>Posing as a couple? Sex.>Fireworks festival? Sex.Like a sexy Goofus and Gallant. Like, what WAS making Yuu get so nervous in this scene? Surely it's hinting at something for the flashbacks to reveal, right? SEX. Is Maruto madman enough to do it?
>Fukin NTR man , goddamn author ,you stupid f.cuk>Go fuk yourself with a cactus author .>What pissed off the mangaka to do this?>This series is shit, stop being a contrarianexquisite.
>>272312951Too fucking cute.
>>272321847it's funny how most of /a/ are the ones who keep talking about the plot rather than bitching about itbut then again /a/ was a huge fan of WA2 back when it aired
>>272319758Same. I feel bad for Hikari, but as someone who knew the outcome ahead of time, he and Yami are so good together.
I'm actually more angry that he and Yami broke up than I am at Hikari being "cucked".
If Hakari doesn't end up stabbing someone, this manga would have been a failure
>>272321710one anon said this page was a misleading translation and the guy meant more like "you're getting too close with your prying about the gf thing" based on the phrase used in the JP. No that she was physically close making him nervous
>>272322133Huh, that would've been a huge hint about his prior relationship experience. I wonder if the Japanese phrasing was intentionally ambiguous.
I'm still a Hikarifag.
>>272322209Do you still want her to win the Yuubowl, or to withdraw and maintain her dignity?
>>272322133is that not what people got from the english too? she doesn't physically back up after he says it.
>>272321847Is it just westoids complaining about how the series has gone?
>>272313011im okay with this ntr, its not something sick and twisted but nice and heartwarming
>>272322301>Wholesome NTRNo such thing, and their relationship will fail once again because they are just two toxic people trying to fix each, but that shit never works. I just hope the MC moves on and finds someone that actually likes her back.
>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011This is the kind of girl you marry
>>272322298Divisive. More people complained early but it's dying now after 5 chapters of nothing new.
>>272322301>>272322405its not even ntr
>>272322224Nta.However I'm more interested in Hikari's development, rather see her remove herself from the current conflict of interest and find someone else. Hopefully she'll take the mature route and move on.
Call me greedy but I'm hoping for a 3P ending
>>272322440I'm looking forward to Yami + Hikari flashbacks after Yami x Yuu gets firmed up. The F-F leg of the triangle was a key piece of what made WA2 work, and also has potential (nay, duty) to deliver here. It should make the surviving Hikarifags happier too.
>>272322440Do we expect see more of this bait-and-switch in romance WNs/LNs/manga/anime in the coming years?
>>272322738It would be sales suicide if they were actually counting on sales, so they might want to prepare a Plan B in case the bait is more popular than expected.
nips are already cheering for yami
>>272322779>>272322779i think it also helps that this one doesnt have a publisher, it's basically a pet project and a doujin (they sold some hard copies back in comiket)downside is that it's slow, but at least no one's going to force yom and maruto to change something in the story
>>272322880Depicted: a rare moment of nips not having shit taste.
>>272322670>Yami + HikariIsn't that just twisting the knife? Like she already took the person she liked, we don't need to be reminded that they used to be friends, or so they thought. It's literally over, unless Hikari goes psycho and decides to destroy their relationship, she has the element of surprise a least because they don't know that she knows their secret.I wonder If she will team up with the Kohai it it comes to that.
>>272322977>Isn't that just twisting the knife?that's part of the drama
>>272322977>or so they thought.?
>>272322977Bro, this is a flashback... There's no friendship to ruin or relationship to destroy.
>>272323118What's the point though? We know Hikari didn't win already
You are a bunch of joyless faggots. I actually found it hot she literally pounced in him instead of leaving.>muh 2 weeksYou don't have anime to watch or other manga to read?
>>272323219you know this is the version that's her imagination, right? the one in the novel version is probably what really happened
>>272323118Dude, there is no salvaging that fucking friendship, if anything the flashbacks would only make it worse for the present state of affairs. I don't think I have ever read a single manga where the cuck stays friends with the dude who cucked him, why would it be any different here?And yeah this was a classic NTR shot
>>272323303they're two different stories
>>272323310I'm legit baffled that some people still deny what this was trying to come across as, regardless of technicalities and the like.
>>272323310Hikari simply cannot compete. Yuu and Yami took each other's first everything, and she still loves him after all this time. The only way she can realistically win is if the reason they broke up in the first place was a legit one and not some stupid bullshit like everyone knows it will be.
>>272323369These people are retarded, or trolling, or both. Regardless don't bother discussing.
>>272323369>Me when this turns into School Dayshttps://youtu.be/ViSO6vTohvo?si=DjaC2LsxN3T4ZfUt
>>272323374ZERO percent its not some dumb bullshit that they both blame themselves for
>>272323310>I don't think I have ever read a single manga where the cuck stays friends with the dude who cucked himN-Naruto?
>>272323369>Anger into passionate kissingThis will always be the best.
>>272323369>rival lands the telenovela specialthere is NO recovery
>>272323534grrr......
yami will avenge senpai
>ctrl + f "ntr">40 + 1 results
>>272323656I was team Douki all the way, but I have forsaken Hikari for Yami. She did what Senpai should have done - win the game before it even begins.
>>272323310>>272323510Onani Master Kurosawa.
>>272323690>NTR manga>Surpised there is NTR and discussions about NTRI don't know what to tell you, bro
>>272323749>hikari does jackshit in pursuing a relationship with yuu>kept getting embarassed>surprised when mc had an ex and got kissed by his ex>"it's NTR! it's Shit!" discussions for the next few chapters
hikari will avenge eririit's time for CFs to win
>>272323749>NTR mangaYou retards don't even know what NTR is. Stop posting and lurk more or just simply kill yourself, you fucking faggot.
>>272314612>chasing a childhood friend.He stopped chasing her after he failed to enter her school speedreader-kun (during which Hikari wasn't even seeing him as a man). Hikari was just delusional this entire time and never stopped to think if he actually had any feelings for her after she fell for him.
Let me guess, author is woman?
>>272324293>it's a 50/50 chance and he still got it wrong
>>272324293If you read the series you would know right away that you're wrong.
>>272324293A female author would have trampled on Hikari much harder than this, like in Kuzu no Honkai.
>>272317842No matter how much you kick and scream like a fucking child, it won't get axed. Because its self published you fucking retard. Also, it's not NTR.
>>272319176If you count BSS, its towards Yami since she was the one who loved the dude first. Hikari didn't give a fuck about him for a VERY long time. So by your definition, Hikari is the homewrecker in this situation
>>272324407>be fucked up highschool girl failure with shitty home life>get healed by some pure virgin you tried to corrupt to make yourself feel better>???>his perfect waifu childhood friend finally decides to shack up with him and he goes running off to herSucks
>>272313011This manga delivering what Bisque Doll won't
>>272324482Yes, Hikari doesn't deserve or owed anything.
>>272322977>>272323168There are many purposes. It gives OG fans some nostalgic happy-Hikari screentime again before it's time to break her heart. It can develop the girls' relationship and show if Yami cares about her as much as she does Yuu, for drama. And if so, it may show Hikari's reputed charisma in action, which would bolster her character and thematic position.
>>272317842>Can this shit get cacelled already?
>>272324293female author would have the guy being cucked repeatedly by both girls
>>272321171The date at the amusement park I meant. She didn't invite him properly, but yeah
>>272321710The set up so far is pretty obviously about contrasting the different levels of intimacy and "experience" Hikari and Yami have with the dude. He and Hikari have known each other forever, but now exist in an awkward sphere where they can't be honest with each other about their developing feelings and deeper emotional baggage. Meanwhile he and Yami honestly barely know each other (this is the morning after their second ever meeting). Yet they've essentially bared their souls to each other, among other things, and so there's no awkward, social barrier to over come any more. We'll see how it develops, but so far Hikari can be a lot more casual and present in Yuu's life, whereas Yami's relationship seems to be defined by being much more dramatic and raw, and potentially more start and stop. Given Hikari has, implicitly, been hanging around Yuu all this time and never noticed anything (even accounting for her density), this further implies whatever relationship Yuu and Yami had wasn't quite as omnipresent in his life and Hikari is.
>>272321710It really is like that. >Hikari has a whole chapter obsessing over an indirect kiss>Meanwhile, Yami was kissing him for real as he took her virginity and gave her his own
>>272324293Nope. Paneling, writing, and female characterization all scream "man".
>>272322405>Yu had a relationship in the past>That means he doesn't actually like Hikari>And he's somehow toxicEbin
>>272322880Based
>>272323374I'm still pretty sure she didn't actually break up with him, they just didn't stay in contact after the train we saw. She calls him her ex, but that's just her being romantic because he meant so much to her. It makes far more sense that they were a ships in the night situation rather than a relationship that didn't work.
>>272312831>It's a Little Late, but I've Fallen in Love with My Childhood FriendMore like>It's Too Late, but I've Fallen in Love with My Childhood Friend
>>272313011Next chapter goinG to be sex chapter again hikari...
wow reading this all at once makes me too an hero holy shit
>>272312951>nah I'd rape
>>272324894I think the manga version of this chapter pretty much shoots down the one-night stand scenario, since she had a chance to slip out, but came back for more a second time. If the author STILL wanted to make it a one-night stand after that, the next chapter would have some 'splainin' to do.
>>272325153he got his outs already>x.5>tweet already said one scenario is false
>>272312831I really don’t want this to split into two routes. This story is perfect for reflection, and I’m worried that magic could be lost
>>272325067>don't forget, you're the challenger hereNot even close to the truth. In fact, it's actually the opposite.
i see the reason why yami suddenly kissed him after "breaking up"she's way too in love with yuu
>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011HNNNNGH!Yes! YES!
CuckCHADS run this place.
>>272325464She won his dick, but can she win his heart? Now I'm getting nervous again.
Hikari can reign on her throne in the love hotel while Yuu fucks Yami's brains out on the bed.
>Already 7 pages of seething rants on managdexThis kino just keeps on giving
>baits people with sol romcom hijinks>turns it into a drama seamlessly with foreshadowing>then turns it into a sol romcom again but now in a biweekly scheduleI simply cannot comprehend the genius behind the renowned WA2 and nothing else.
>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011GOD I NEED YAMI GF SO BAD
I hate how this hack is even allowed to touch a pen after Engage Kiss
>>272327181It's so funny how butthurt no stakes romcom slop addicts get when their self-insert space suddenly gets invaded by some real to life drama.
>>272320125Take your nrt and hang yourself.
I don't understand why everyone is so angry at the male MC. He isn't even dating the blonde, so he can sleep with whoever he wants. Yet people on dex are calling him a manwhore, like, what the heck is wrong with you?!
>>272312831>Cucks her friend>Rapes a guy>Is used goodsshe's just the worst
>>272328089>Is used goodsBy him.
>>2723280890/3. Try again Hikari.
>>272328089>>Cucks her friendNope>>Rapes a guyNope.>>Is used goodsYou didn't even try reading this manga, did you?
>>272328038>I don't understand why everyone is so angry at the male MCBecause they are retarded. There is no deeper meaning to it anon. As if he was suppose to stand in the corner and wait for the girl who didn't give a single fuck about him until like 2 months ago.
>>272325153>since she had a chance to slip out, but came back for more a second time.This is before the train ride.They went to the train together in the morning and he left. Shrimple as.
>>272313011Yami is the Kazusa of this story. Sasuga Maruto, you did it again.
>woman fucking random men in manga>"It's her choice! Who cares, incel.">man fucking random women in manga>"NOOO, MY FEMMC SELF-INSERT IS BEING KEKED"Lmao.
>>272328038How can he say he loves a girl and then sleep with a different girl he's barely met twice?
>>272312981This is Aishiteru Game done right. This MC is just like Yukiya, and Yukiya deserves a Yami of his own rather than settling with Slutku.
>>272328432>>woman fucking random men in manga>>"It's her choice! Who cares, incel."name one time that happened
>>272328432>random womenhey yami is not random
>>272328381Anon, you ARE aware chapter 25 had more than five pages, right?
>>272328475that one definitely deserves the ntr discussion, especially with its baiting
>FYI, the reason why the storyline's different is because one of them... is but Yami-senpai's fantasy. I fucking KNEW IT.He left on the train. Everything after that was Yami's fantasy.
>>272320450this is actually the exact same shot as the gambare douki oneHow the fuck is this allowed
>>272328644hikari let it go...
>>272328742In the novel she just leaves too. I stand vindicated.It was just a one night stand. The manga doesn't portray that now, too many people have been telling me I was wrong.
>>272328644Nah the fantasy part is these>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011Seems like in reality she kisses him and probably ghosts him. He doesn't have her number, and doesn't know which school she goes to.
>>272328475Miku will avenge Hikari
>>272328807Nah the train has to be real too. The fantasy is everything after he leaves on the train.
>>272328807nta but if the whole "ex" thing was just a one-night stand then hikari will be seriously at a disadvantage >yami just fucked off leaving a memory of him loving her for a night>mc is confused but still loves her even in the present
>>272328644>>272328833what train?you mean in ch 25?
>>272320450I want to jerk off in her socks so bad bros
I still mantain that this isn't NTR as shitposters say, but still i do agree that this is both overkill and an hilariously obvious sign that yom is stalling because of a lack of ideas. I mean come on, two weeks only for this?Last nail in the coffin would be flashback ending and cut to them actually having sex yet again in the present, in the classroom, with Hikari watching. THAT would seal the deal>>272328644That's extremely retarded and i truyl hope it's not the case. That would be the most cowardly retcon to appease angry readers since the multiple routes ending in Bokuben.yom already went this route, it can still get interesting without "fixing" shit
>>272328892Nah, remember he was worried about even risking meeting Yami. He's clearly into Hikari, not her.He has feelings for Yami but trying to avoid the culture festival is pretty clearly choosing Hikari over her.
>>272328945iirc yuu chased yami until both of them are in the room
>>272322635but with the other slutty looking friend of theirs instead of Hikari
>>272313011Why would anyone root for Hikari after this? She is basically the homewrecker now.
>>272328926Yeah.You see her talking about how she doesn't have the courage to ask for his contact details and that after his exam stress and how much she wrung him out, he's too asleep to even really ask for more.We see him get on the train. That's the end of things.And then we have them suddenly standing beside each other and kissing. I always interpreted this as jut a fantasy, but I saw people in these threads saying I was wrong. Having seen the novel chapter, and seen the author's note, I'm very sure I'm right now.>>272328941It's not a retcon, it was always like that. People just misinterpreted 25 because it didn't make it that obvious it was just her fantasy.
>>272328941>I mean come on, two weeks only for this?maruto and yom aren't getting paid for this one so we all we know, they're just doing this casually hence the usual shorter pages
>>272323369This isn’t NTR, this is NTR being defeated by true love.
>Tfw you realise that if Hikari wins it really will be an NTR/BSS storyLudo?
>>272328583>that one definitely deserves the ntr discussion, especially with its baitingyeah even the japs are getting tired of the ntrbaiting done by the author.
>>272313011>She's a rapistSo my theory was right. I'm willing to bet this is why he cut her off.She then sexually assaults him again in the school. I hope he gives her a proper beatdown this time.
>mousey plain girl will never pounce on you like a sexual tigressit hurts
>>272328827>Miku will avenge Hikariright after riding the class jocks
>>272324482I fully expect these two creators to pull some shit like this now that story is getting more comfortable with Yami.But instead of with Hikari it will be with one of the other friends because it’s already too late to stop this train.
>>272329007>it was always like that. People just misinterpreted 25 because it didn't make it that obvious it was just her fantasyOf course, you'll understand my skepticism without proofs or sources other than "my ass"
So, if the dued isn't a virgin, why does he get so flustered all the time? he should have some confidence, it would be even more interesting if the Fem Mc fell in love with him after seeing how confident he is now, thinking it's just because he grew up, not knowing it's because he got his dick wet.
boring dogshit like this gets 230+ replies?
>>272328644>>272328793>>272328833>>272329007Now you're just being willfully retarded. I feel for the people who have to wrangle your deluded ass in real life.
>>272325207>this author would never fuck with people on twitter just to manipulate expectationsI assume nothing with maruto
>>272313393>>Maruto-sensei: Here's the update for chapter 26.... or rather, chapter 25.5. As for why I made this an interlude, it's because the storyline is different between the manga version and the novel version, so there's no cannon to base this on. FYI, the reason why the storyline's different is because one of them... is but Yami-senpai's fantasy.Is this another cope-out attempt like Takeda's "I like you who can SEX everyone" series?!? Or just this extra? Or the while thing??? Or is the author going to publish alternate timelines? I'm confused.When do we get to the part where Yami and the dude realise they've been found out by the FMC? GIVE ME THAT DEPRESSED PORN AS WE WATCH ALL 3 OF THEM FALL INTO THE PITS OF DESPAIR!
Are the people screeching "NTR" saying it because the girl in the OP has the definitive NTR hair style?
Romcom without drama is like battle shonen where MC is OP without even training.Sure there are rare instances where an author made it work with writing but otherwise it usually indicates pure garbage.
>>272328038>people actually emotionally invested in a cartoon are unhingedI am shock
>>272329198Probably because his mixed feelingsEven if he liked Hikari and also feels that CF romance vibe, he knows it's not gonna look good if he suddenly reveals he not only had sex already, but also with one of her best friendsIn the meantime, he still feels something for Yami, so he probably wants to try and end the crush in the best terms possible, while she might not want toA truly shitty situation where you try to step as few eggshells as possible (and fail horribly)
>>272329007>And then we have them suddenly standing beside each other and kissing. I always interpreted this as jut a fantasy,reread the novel version of chapter 25 both of them definitely banged at the very least, and maruto only said that that one scenario is false because yom drew a different story for that specific chapter hence it's labled as 25.5 but i reckon its not a big deal in the overall story
>>272328474How can Hikari say she loves him when she obviously doesn’t know a fucking thing about his personal life?
>>272329396We all have been there anon (or many at least) Dumb teenagers gonna be dumb, especially at love
>>272328941>senpai sex yet again>yom just flat out draws hardcore fucking to milk the seethe even more
>>272329103please tell me this is not real since those scenario are huge ntrflags
>>272312831is weird that 30 years later people still dont understand real ntr, this happens when you read/watch too much porn
People are so distracted with NTR/not NTR that they are missing the point of all this, that a girl is forced to realize she is not the protagonist of her own reality and they can’t handle that.
>>272329473>are huge ntrflagsstop using porn logic
>>272328474ever heard of the manic pixie girl trope?its basically the same thing but yami is the brooding type while mc is the kind-hearted one
>>272329473It is real. Which is why everyone mockingly calls it the Aishiteru NTR Game.
>>272329514Don't worry, we did notice anon, it's just that the story is so slow we distracted ourselves with other details
>>272329514>that a girl is forced to realize she is not the protagonist of her own reality and they can’t handle that.I already know this, really good story so far
The difference between russians and westerners reactions to all of this is bizarre.
>>272329552>Which is why everyonewho?
>>272328988>She is basically the homewrecker now.Always has been. She is literally the outsider to these two. Yuu let go of his obsession/crush long ago after he failed to enter the same school.
>>272329533it's a manga about romcom, not a real life scenarioyou think the nips complaining about the ntr tropes in the manga has no basis?
>>272329604>bizarre.is not, we are called the sexless generation for a good reason
>>272329007holy fucking cope
>>272329552>Miku: t-this is just practice ok? so that I can take Yukiya’s dick properly when the time comes!>Ikeman: yeah sure whatever>Miku: ~Ahn!~
>>272329366it's just the source and the adaption diverging a bit, totally normal, is the simultaneous release what's throwing people off or something?
>>272329630>you think the nips complaining about the ntr tropes in the manga has no basis?yes, that is the reason they are going extinct they dont understand people and sex, they just read/watch badly written porn
>>272329514i'm just here to get my WA2fix after finishing the vn
>>272329681>they just read/watch badly written pornsounds like a you-problem to me, anonand i doubt they care about what you think
When is the flashback over? Let's get back to the juicy part.
>>272329198>it would be even more interesting if the Fem Mc fell in love with him after seeing how confident he is nowIt is making its way towards that conclusion since Hikari literally says she didn't see him as a member of the opposite sex until very recently. That's probably when he went out with Yami and completely stopped giving a shit about Hikari.
>>272329677>is the simultaneous release what's throwing people off or something?i'm replying to the anon who dismissed ch 25 and 25.5 as nothing but yami's fantasy
>>272329719the obsesion with badly written porn and sexless generation are connected
>>272329252This chapter is just an extra "what if". In the novel she just kisses him and leaves. In this, they go for another round.
>>272329668I spat out my drink reading this lmao. Great job anon. Captures Miku’s personality perfectly.
>>272329794i meant to too, clicked the wrong nested reply my bad
>>272329357I'm %99 sure he doesn't know Yami and Hikari are friends let alone best friends just like how Yami didn't know the crush Hikari was talking about was Yuu until very very recently.
>>272329796sure whatever you say but dont you ever reply to me with all that shit when i was just commenting my thoughts over some romcom manga with its shitty cuckbaiting tropes
>>272329745so the actual moral of this story is have sex incel?
>>272329396That the thing she will come to understand in the following chapters probably will be that the guy she was interested in also had a life and wasn't waiting around.
>>272329884>cuckbaiting tropesthat is not what cuck means
>>272329869What if he knew long before Yami did, which is why she slapped him?
>>272329514Title litterally spells out the loser heroine premise. I don't know what people were expecting. There are hundreds of Hİkaris in countless harems.
>>272329967We don't know. I'm sure this arc will tie in to that scene.
maybe the reason hikari didnt know that yuu had an "ex"is because maybe it was just a one-night stand thing?and because of it yuu kept thinking about yami even in the present timeor maybe it's just that hikari never thought of yuu as a romantic partner and recently just fell in love albeit a little too late
>>272330050She didn't know becuase she didn't give a single fuck about neither him or his personal life till like 2 months ago. And Yuu was aware of this fact and didn't tell her either.
>>272329198>why does he get so flustered all the time?When does he get super flustered, aside from the one ambiguous scene? His reactions are pretty normal otherwise.
everyone ITT is a woman right? nobody but teenage girls read garbage like this
>>272330185stop acting like a 12 year old kid
>>272329458>yami and yuu start having sex>hikari leaves in shock, goes back to college festival in a daze>meets random good guy that finds her crying>she abandons her childish views on romance, starts going out with guy and already plans to fuck him>romantice triangle becomes a messy squareHit me with that sweet despair if you dare yom>>272329604I'm curious, what does the russians say? And the japanese are vocal and not happy?
>>272330185we're all little girls here
>>272330256>And the japanese are vocal and not happy?they like it so far >>272322880
>>272322880Yami is an actual proper cunt, though>Self-professed femcel misandrist>Rapist>Only uses Yuu for sex
>>272330256>sayThey feel really bad for Hikari, someone even heartbroken, but people find this development interesting.Yami is hot.
>>272330439but yuu fixed her
>>272330185You sound really upset anon
>>272330439>Self-professed femcel misandristHer love for Yuu and his cock fixed both of those issues.>RapistThe cause is her love for Yuu.>Only uses Yuu for sexThe cause is her love for Yuu and his cock.
>>272314676They fucked already anyway. What difference does it make if they went for a second round or not?
Mindbroken cuckold nation that inserts NTR into everything
>>272320746>unless she tries to break them upThey have already broken up no? We just don't know when and why.
>>272330755but enough about aishiteru game
>>272330439childhood friend hands typed this post
>>272330755Maruto is a mutt?!
>>272329042Isn't ludo for videogames?I guess for reading it would be libro.
>>272330755reverse ntr is best ntr
>>272329721I dont think it will be for a while. Apparently this flashback is part 2 of the story.
>>272329974It's the protagonist syndrome. NPCs root for the protagonist just because she's the protagonist. Same reason people wanted their Haganai "win" by getting Kodaka even though he was one of the worst protagonist in history.
>>272328474He was highly aware that the girl he liked didn't care about his existence so he tried to get in to her school as a last ditch effort but failed. Yami was at the right place at the right time. They both were, for eachother.
>>272322188It's ambiguous in English, too. Anons are just too dense to notice
>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011>maruto's novel version is differentwait is yom a yamifag?nice
>>272330976Yom doesn't write manga plot on his own anyway.
>>272330976>wait is yom a yamifag?I think he just does what he is told (handed) and not very involved with anything else considering he was also shocked by the twist apperantly.
>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011I've been looking at this for a whole day already bros.I only want something just like this.
>>272331046>>272330976https://x.com/y_o_m_y_o_m/status/1848160313918779868>丸戸さんが提示してくれた3つの分岐の内のひとつを（妄想を膨らませて）描いただけです
>>272324901Ima sara can actually mean either in japanese
>>272328474Happens all the time to sex-havers
>>272328474You can say you love your waifu all you want anon but if the situation has presented itself in front of your knees, I doubt you can still say the same.
>>272331200Oh, he CHOSE to draw this one as an extra. So he might actually be a yamifag in the end.
>>272330877That's boring. Shame.
>>272328474At first he was just kinda caught up in the flow, but when they actually fuck it's because his feelings for Hikari were different than the connection he felt with Yami after they ended up baring their hearts to each other.
>>272329967The only way he could know is if he hung out with Hikari and her friends together, even if she talked about her friends otherwise she'd call Yami Aya. The same reason why Yami only began to realize when she saw Yuu's name written out in the group chat
I've never had sex.
>>272312951>>272312981>>272313011I don't know how anyone can hate her. Mellowed out Ayami is way cuter than Hikari.
>>272329967it's not impossible that he figured it out somehow but i feel like it doesn't exactly fit. my guess is whatever caused them to break up is just some drama we haven't seen yet.
>>272332824we know, hikari
>>272333156>break upThe author said half this chapter is a fantasy, so she just ghosts him after fucking him. So probably still has feelings and its why we get the argument/slap from the present chapter.
>>272333320I wouldn't assume they haven't seen each other at all between this flashback and the present day. What would she even be mad at him about if that was the case?
>>272333320That would imply they never see eachother again but she literally says he is her ex-boyfriend. There is more to come.
>>272333705Its just another Hikarifag coping like it was a one night thing and there was nothing more to it but there obviously was.
>>272314612One night stand.
>>272333705>he sees her and goes after her, when she knows her best friend likes himThat is why she is mad.>>272333717We are going to wait 2 weeks for 10 pages where right before she walks out he grabs her and then kiss chapter end. The pacing has gotten so bad.
>>272328474>men>loyal
Romcom MCs wish they were as CHAD as Yuu.>natural-born ladykiller>decently hung>will take the chance of sex if presented to him in a silver platter>THOT-proof: won't get it up unless he develops an emotional connection with the girl
>>272333950Doesn't feel in character for her, given what we've seen. Or for him, really.
>>272328644It makes sense the fantasy begins when she kisses him while he's asleep. If Yami left and they didn't exchange contact info, that would explain why Yuu is so upset about reuniting with her.On the other hand, though, 1 year is a huge gap and there's still the whole "breaking up" thing, which is incompatible with a one-night stand.
>>272312951w-woah
>>272331046>Oh cool, I'm drawing light fluffy romcom antics for this light fluffy romcom >*Gets the twist*>WHAT!? I've been drawing BSS NTR this whole time!?>Compensates for that by drawing Yami's story extra cute and adding even more love into it
>>272333780I'm not a Hikarifag, but I think it makes the most sense that they were just a one time thing. It makes them a missed connection, and that's why he went back to Hikari. It's sweet and gives them a lot better room to get together than having their relationship break up.
>Yami : Hey Hikari, you know Yuu's bedroom ?Yep we did there.>The festival Ferris wheel? Nakadashi >We did it in the rain too>My Tower Mansion? Mating pressed + inseminated.
I want the black-haired girl to win just to see the nuclear bomb in the mangadex comment section. They have already called her every name in the book and she just appeared. Reminds of the retardd who think the female MC belongs to the protagonist in romcoms just because he has a crush on her.
>>272334821At this rate its hard to see why they would break up in the first place, she didn't know Hikari at all yet and even when they meet its unlikely Hikari had feelings for him yet.
>>272334821>that's why he went back to HikariHe didn't though? Entire point of the first part of the story before the infamous chapter is them being full of highly subtle hints about how he doesn't see her romanticly anymore.
Hikari would be in the right to kill her "friend"
>>272334821>he went back to Hikari.you really should reread the pre-twist chapters or something
>>272335779A lot of people should. He never exactly left Hikari too like you're suggesting, they still interacted through this whole time because they literally live right beside each other. Yes, he banged Yami and later that same night he probably had some kind of interaction with Hikari.
>yamitards are ninifagspottery
>>272336053>like you're suggesting?? what
>>272328513on the board /a/ anytime one of those "my girlfriend is a whore? but i love her anyway??" manga is discussed (twitter/tumblr refugees and trannies are all in your head btw, stop seething incel)
>>272336441>my girlfriend is a whore? but i love her anywayPeople call out those whores excessively all the time as well. What the fuck are you on about? Just check any Hajimete No gal thread from the archive.
>>272336611>People call out those whores excessively all the time as well.1 anon that is afraid of human interaction
>>272336809So its 1 anon now.
>>272336858all me
The next twist will be Hikari and the other two friends bullying Ayami to back into being a hikikomori
>>272336935She was a runaway, not a hikki.
>>272323656Senpai shouldn't be avenged because she fucked herself overNo sympathy
This is the average normalfag relationship. Sociopathy and cuckoldry.
>>272337286>Sociopathy and cuckoldry.None of those are present in this story. Watch less porn and come back.
kek retards on mangadex don't even read the chapters.
>>272335094I will laugh forever if that's actually the reason for this.
>>272337362They are just mad that their seasonal slop now has an actual story
>>272337362They are just angry the guy didn't choose the heckin' wholesome pig-tailed girl even though it's very clear that she pretty much ignored his existence until recently.
>>272331683Delivering the senpai sex we needed
holy shit I go to bed, wake up n hours later and this shit is still looping
>>272337540shut up fag
>>272337472I don't get it. Hikari kept putting off sharing how she felt over and over, what did she expect? Even the school festival where she was like "I will absolutely tell him this time, for sure" she'd probably chicken out since she did the same thing before. Meanwhile senpai is actually taking proactive efforts similar to our boy.
>>272337649>what did she expect?'just like muh shoujos'
>>272337649For Hikari, everything is highly fresh. She wasn't even looking at the dude until like 2 months ago so this much stalling i can understand. What she didn't count for however that these two had a full blown relationship in the meantime while she was sucking her thumb ignoring the very exsistence of Yuu beyond of a little boy next door.
>>272319494It'll be Yami taking both their virginities instead.
>>272338238Yuu is ruined for Hikari. Ayami took all of his firsts. She probably also let him do her in the ass at some point, she looks that needy.
>>272337362Most of them were vanillafags who signed up for a safe romcom with the usual stupid hijinks and will-they won't-they bullshit. They hate being reminded of reality: that cheating and changing partners like clothing are commonplace. Feelings are second place to pragmatism in today's relationships.
>>272337362some people genuinely can't get into a story without heavily identifying with the mc
>>272336605Built for receiving Yuu's cum and pumping out his babies.
>>272312951Yup, this girl is PURIFIED.
Why is the so much blatant NTR in romcoms lately?I like it better when is just two people falling in love than drama shit
>cucking is okay when it happens to the female main charactersWhy though?
>>272339168what are some other recent ones where this happens to female lead? I think the only reason stuff like this is a big deal is that reverse ntr is so rare >>272339287she was insufferable and deserved it
Its not NTR if they never even dated.
>>272339341I can't remember a single series that did a tonal shift this big. Considering how shit the writing is here that's for the best for the other writers.
>>272339168>>272339402do you read manga? nothing about this is weird, classic shoujo/josei are 1000 times more crazy
>>272339402>Considering how shit the writingWhat's shit about it besides not liking the twist?
>>272339361It's not even fully BSS in this case
>>272339495The same thing that makes every other flashback in the middle of something else like this shit: interrupting the flow of the story to give a PSA about how sad a character's past was boohoo. The flashback itself isn't what bothers me, it's not doing this during a break as if characters are learning about this or as a character reminiscing.>>272339480Those start as balls to the wall drama from the start.
So is the story basically done?Usually in romcoms the story more or less comes to a close when two of the main characters in a love triangle get together, Hikari missed that boat already.Is there another childhood friend that shows up and that's what the title of the manga is refering to?
>>272339663>So is the story basically done?No, the story has only started.
>>272339740So what, is now a sol manga about the two friends being a couple and Hikari just finding someone else? I guess Horimiya did something like that
>>272339977NTR wars.
>>272340095Hikari can't ntr him tho cause Yuu doesn't like her anymore
>>272313011This is better than porn. I haven't stopped fapping to this chapter and the previous one for hours despite having zero nudity. I find women who don't shy away from claiming sexual ownership of a man extremely sexy.
>>272340361that wouldn't stop her from seriously embarrassing herself trying
japan and cuckshit....
>>272336605What are the chances she brought him over to the penthouse at least once?
>>272340986likely high
I can't wait for it to sink in for Hikari that while she was getting flustered over indirect kissus and the like, Yuu had already had all his firsts taken. Bonus points when she realizes he liked her for years, but doesnt anymore.
>>272315501https://youtu.be/jf80iT_ATbw?si=tfFVMpq81KR6Xu7s
I'm so glad I learned about this series AFTER all the drama happened so I can fully enjoy it
>>272340986Possibly, but it's probably a place more often reserved for her daddy dates
>>272341319Then she'll awkwardly try offering him sex and get shot down
>>272341508>he thinks it's over
>>272341933>offering him sexMales "offer/give" sex. Females "take" sex. Do you even english?
>>272340095Just wait til the other two friends get involved with Yuu.
>>272341508>missed the best parts
>>272338345I mean how could you not? >>272336605
>>272330742Double the chance of teen pregna-- wait, this is a flashback, so that's not--Wait, wait. What if she got an abortion? What if that's why they broke up?
>>272331200>3 (THREE) branches MARUTOOOOOOOOOO
>>272340436>I find women who don't shy away from claiming sexual ownership of a man extremely sexy"Make a man fall in love with you with one simple trick"
>>272342005You poor guy
>>272342428That's literally what happens during sex, ESL dumbfuck. Or are you going to claim that women take on an active role during sex instead of lying down like dead fish lazy fucks 99% pf the time?
>>272342561You are so angry over something so minor. Your quibble over wording aside, girls can and do offer sex. Pretending they don't is just not living in the real world.
>>272342561Are you alright anon? You are gonna pop a vein over some mundane shit at this rate.
>>272340986depends on the timeline. at this point in the flashback she's basically homeless so at some point she patched things up with her mom and got use of the apartment when the stepdad got caught. the fact that it was stocked with wine would suggest that she'd only gotten to move in around the time of the fireworks party
>>272331200>Maruto is feeding Yom a just-in-time VNscared.jpg>>272331683>>272337503>Yom picks the most feMC-humiliating options, as is his wontET TU, YOM? Holy based.
This shit manga can only be salvaged by a School Days type ending
>>272312919>>272312951>she turned backjeeze how did she become best girl.
>>272330755>NTRThey are not dating, they have never dated, she had like a whole year to confess plus childhood friend advantage and did nothing. Hikarikek deserves to lose and if anything Yami was the one that was going to get ntr'd if Hikari did confess.
Yami will avenge Ichika.
>>272344025Ichika will become my wife
Yami deserves to win. As of right this moment, Hikari has switched from heroine to homewrecker.
>>272342655>>272342670Sorry if I came across as rude. I was just shitposting. For the most part.
The best part of the Yuu x Yami fling is that he didnt get hard until he knew her feelings for him were sincere. Bro doesnt want some slut using him, he wants GENUINE.
>>272344174I agree wholeheartedly.
>>272344751GENUINE is truly the best.
>>272344751It broke her mind now she won't stop.
>>272345044>instant loss
>>272345181>talks shit about healing him>gets healedWell well well, not so smug now.
>>272344174A lot depends on why they broke up. She obviously still has feelings for him though.
>>272345289>A lot depends on why they broke up.She noticed Hikari had feelings for him and was more worthy so she jumped out of the MCbowl.
>>272345663That's distinctly possible, although I think it would kill the Hikari ship deader than dead if it turns out they were together that long. But it also depends how deeply Yuu falls for Yami in the rest of the flashback.
>>272345663the phrasing of her line in ch21 makes it sound more like they were already broken up when she found that out, and it doesn't fit how yuu acts prior to that
What an awful story.
>>272329286What do you mea--ooohhh, NOW I see it.
>>272346244need levels of ntrwomen
>>272339402Medaka Box changing from Romcom to Battle shounen? Gal cleaner crashing and burning?
>>272347231What are some archetypes?>gyaru>childhood promised onee>yankee tomboy
>>272347376>your own mother
>>272347415oh man thats a big one, can't believe I forgot
>>272329286yes
>>272347376>your yandere lesbo stalker
So why are people ignoring that the guy himself came back to Yami?
>>272347708>feet liftweapon activatedt minus 2 seconds to detonation
What do we think Maruto will do here?What about Hikari running off with Yami running after her trying to explain, and Yuu only catching up to them as Yami pushes oblvious Hikari out of the way of a truck and dies?Then have Yuu cursing Hikari and wishing she had died instead while her two other friends console Yuu and eventually marry him.
>>272331683If nothing else this means we will get more quality Yami ASS
>>272335491>>272335779If he's no longer interested in Hikari and only keen for Yami, then why was he trying to avoid the school festival?
>>272336441>>272336611There's a fucking tonne of shounen manga where the girl is experienced and the guy isn't. There's practically none where the guy is experienced and the girl isn't.
>>272335094>Literally the Mizuru/Jun memes from Tomo>But played completely straightSo good. I can only pray it's true that it wasn't a one night stand and he really was railing Yami just a few meters from Hikari. Hikari didn't love him back then, but it's still funny.
>>272344959Fucking zoomers would not survive the glorious golden age of late 00s to early 10s. Imagine them getting firsthand experience of SEOOOOOOOOOOO, Onani Master Kurosawa, True Tears, Nozoki Ana and such.
>>272339168It's not NTR, nothing has happened yet between Hikari and Yu. There's been a little teasing but that's it, he hasn't even come close to cheating on Yami.
>>272348173Nta but I don't understand. He was trying to avoid the school either because of running into senpai if he knew she was there, or because he didn't want to attend with Hikari since hes over her
>>272339495Same as when the girl I like doesn't win in a harem. Story not going as I wanted == shit writing. >>272339516Yami liked him first, so getting with Hikari would be BSS.
>>272344959I don't know the context but my God this is hilarious
>>272347415That's definitely the biggest
>>272348378People want him to have moved on from Hikari and that all his previous hints were for Yami, and I just don't see it. I think he still loved/loves Hikari. Maybe this will be the spanner in the works to finally change his view, or maybe he'll stay on the Hikari train. All I can say is that if he only loves Yami then the manga is basically over.
>Rubbing the fact that she kiss the guy before Hikarithis mindbroken route is canon
>>272348378I bet he never even knew Yami went to that school or that she was friends with Hikari.He went to the festival despite not wanting to because Hikari asked him, but the shock of suddenly seeing Yami probably made him run after her which mad her mad because she was trying to sacrifice her love for Hikari.But then hormones kicked in.
>>272335094This makes me want a sekiro clone that is a dating game where boss encounters are the same girl at different date locations requiring different victory conditions.
>>272348799>I bet he never even knew Yami went to that schoolyou fucking speedreaders holy shit
>>272335126>I want the black-haired girl to winThat's the thing, she already did.Hikari's idyllic dreamcrush scenario is forever splattered.
>>272348878I don't read the manga, only angry comments about it.
I'm still convince the two of them were dating up until chapter 11. Yami didn't know Hikari's crush name until then. Once she did, she broke up with him, and chapter 21 was her regretting that decision and getting back together with him.
>>272348378>or because he didn't want to attend with Hikari since hes over herIf that's the case it wouldn't make sense for him to be willing to go to the amusement park or other festival with her yet draw the line there. He's 100% avoiding the school in particular, he even accidentally says so.>「だって、陽花梨の学校ってことは……」>「ウチの学校が何か？」>「いや、ごめん、言い方間違えた」
>>272348992Would explain why they still have such strong feelings for each other, but you have to fit the Jirai-kei girl in the timeline to make sense.
>>272348471It's even better in context.
>romance erotic!>mutual woundlicking and uncontrollable emotions erotic!
>>272348992Then why would she be angry enough to slap him? The other time we see her all full of self loathing she doesn't lash out like that. Plus, at the risk of reading too much into it, the way she talks about it makes it sound like the breakup and him being Hikari's flame are unrelated events coming together in unfortunate serendipity. I still think it's more likely that whatever caused them to split is unrelated to Hikari, it just feels like it makes more sense and fits with the general theme of the twist being these people having their own lives totally outside of her orbit.>>272349164This too, it's not explicit but it's presented like there's not a lot of time between the two events.
>>272349164>but you have to fit the Jirai-kei girl in the timeline to make sense.Jirai-kei girl can be easily explain by Yuu not thinking it's a date, it sort of helps that he acts the same way with Hikari. As far as Yuu is concerned, He and Hikari are just out being friends.
>>272349260>Then why would she be angry enough to slap him?In Yami's narration she said that he found her after trying to hide from him. It could be chalked up to emotions being high, And we don't know what they were talking about before the slap and kiss.
>>272349377>It could be chalked up to emotions being highThat feels hand-wavy for a significant moment in narrative, I don't buy it.
People complaining about "shit writing" when this was a masterstroke of misdirection and playing on expectations will never stop being hilarious.
Just read the manga. Must I really support the boring childhoodfriend? Yami is better in every way and her story is simply more interesting than the CF.
>>272349475We were literally following Hikari's pov before the entire event. She arrives near the endpoint of the talk. Yuu or Hikari must have said something for her to have kissed him and for him to accept the kiss without pushing her away.
>>272349573>supportShipperfags are pure cancer, there's nothing to support.Ayami already shared her Vcard with him.
>>272348471CINEMA
>>272312831Just remembered I've dropped Saekano because of the NTR, is it worth to finish it?
>>272349377I still think he was looking for Hikari but found Yami instead, who assumed he was there for her. But I've been wrong in this story a lot so idk
>>272348799Anon... Their whole introduction is her teasing him about failing to get into her school
>>272349761>goes to classroom>sees hikari at classrom>leaves classroomnot much of a hunter then
>>272348992>>272348661The best thing about the friends was how supportive and caring they were, until she actually brought him to the festival. Then they just admit they only wanted the entertainment of seeing her fail. That's great. I hate those series where the side cast is obsessed with the MC pairing. Nobody cares that much about someone else's life.
>>272349822Been a while since I read it, I thought he stepped out for a bit from the classroom then said he was heading back there to look for Hikari since she took a break in his text message.
>>272349079Exactly, and from a writing standpoint there's no other reason to make sure he knows that she attends that school. Otherwise you'd have him not know and make running into Yami a surprise. Instead we're meant to follow Hikari's logic and take for granted that what she's assuming is true... until we get there and find the real reason.
>>272349208QRD?
>>272348471>>272349208It's hilarious for about a minute there, and then emotionally crippling for life.>>272349964One word: audio.
>>272349283Man, that girl is cute. Say what you want about Yom, he draws super cute girls. >>272349377>>272349260I'm guessing they ran into each other by accident. She's aware of Hikari's feelings so she tried to run away. He doesn't know about Hikari's feelings, so he chased her. The slap was because he cornered her or pulled her away, that's why she complains "Who does he think he is!?" to act like that with her, like he's important enough to her to make demands. I guess the question is that if he's awkward enough around her to avoid the festival, why did he chase her down? And I suppose the answer is that when he's in person with her, he can't possibly ignore her.Or maybe he saw her in trouble again, a teacher trying to take advantage of her or something. That would probably be too cliche though.
>>272348471>They spin in place just to perfectly frame the cuckquean in the frameHonestly, it's amazing direction
>>272349931yeah the note he leaves doesn't say why he has to bounce, just to find him once her shift is over
>>272350083ah then I was probably thinking he dipped because he was not wanting to run into Yami but came back to the room to get back to Hikari (since I think she was a little late?)But after everything I've read now I think he was probably chasing after Senpai
So how are people going to react when he ends up with Hikari because of typical romcom dramabshit?
>>272350154I will lament and gnash my teeth then get over it
>>272349931Other way around: He left a paper note saying he'd wait for her to contact him after her shift was done. Afterward she went looking around but couldn't find him, and he wasn't seeing her text, so she went back to the classroom where he had a higher chance of returning.Aya was still in the classroom because she volunteered to take over Hikari's cleanup duty, freeing Hikari to go meet up with Yuu and leave him no reason to come back. Unfortunately Hikari and Yuu missed meeting each other.
>>272350154Immeasurable disappointment
I really hope they stay away from the MC, they are toxic used good, and I don't want them corrupting her naive good girl innocence. She just needs to find a good man, who wont sleep with random chicks like this dude.
>>272350154blood feud on marutoi believe though
Imagine if when Hikari found them Yuu and Ayami were putting their clothes back on
>>272350154Just an inverse of the current consensus but hopefully even more funny than it already is after all these victory laps shippers are taking and projecting their feelings about other series instead of just enjoying the ride
>>272350240>Hikari witnessing the angry makeup sexDead on the spot, her heart couldn't take it.
>>272350240I would hope she would just blackmail them since this manga is following netorare rules
>>272350305I'd read that doujin.
>>272350154I'll be fine with it, I like Yami much more but Hikari is fine and it's hilarious to be to think that he took both their virginities.
>>272348661>cupping the back of Ayami's soft hairbob with one hand while kissing her and cumming insidehe is so lucky
>>272350305If we're following NTR rules then the series should follow Hikari guiltily fingering herself as she watches Yu railing Ayami from her bedroom. At first the curtains are closed, but gets more and more open as they get more and more uninhibited. Could even do one of those scenes where he's talking to her with the curtain pulled tight around his neck so she can't see anything that's happening, while Ayami is throating his cock.
>Friends didn't support her in the endShould have been a sign that she was going to fail.
>>272347708menhera pussy too good
Just occurs to me that if Hikari had opened the door right then instead of freezing it would be the classic "Couple gets their intimate moment interrupted right before it happens." Scene.It's exactly what would have happened to her under normal circumstances. She wasn't too late, she was right on time, but she didn't act.
>>272350477They were having fun at her expense. I bet they didn't think she would actually gather the courage.
>>272349964i suggest you watch the anime, anonbut of course if only you like soap opera dramas otherwise you'll be asshurt
>>272350464Since Hikari is a cuckquean type, it would be all of them agreeing to a threesome to mend fences but then Yami and Yuu getting so into it they forget her entirely.
>>272350526>but she didn't acguess that makes her a little late
>>272350526>She wasn't too late, she was right on time, but she didn't act.Story of her life
>>272350555>Since Hikari is a cuckquean typeShe was ready to shank another bitch who tried to claim him>>272349283
>>272350739>ayami
>>272349884>supportive and caringit's more like they're just egging her on and bantering, if anything. which is more authentic too
>>272350739>Female bull makes fun of her victim
Yeah, I’ve made up my mind.I’ll choose him....The one I’ll take my "revenge" on."Let’s go to a second round after this?""It’s getting late...""This time, I’ll heal not just your heart, but your body too.""...What?"I’m going to hurt him.Completely ruin him.I’ll leave him with a scar that’ll never heal.......Matsushita Ayami. A fool who couldn’t move up to the second year after a full year in school....And I’ll ruin this guy’s innocence.
>>272350739speaking of foreshadowing in yami's texts
>>272350812Assertive girls do what tsunderes don't
>>272349283>twintails>choker>ZRthis kouhai is dangerous
>>272350825no i mean that's exactly what she did to yuu when they first hooked up
>>272350873Yeah I was agreeing and saying Senpais assertiveness is great
>>272350892mengo...
I don't get why in these stories nobody actually gets into a good fist fight. Back in my old school days doing something like this would almost always end in a crowd watching a bunch of clowns going at it. Great entertainment value.
>>272350954Girls don't fist fight, they manipulate
>>272351009>He never witnessed greatness IRLstuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjrHr81M5YQ
>Hikari makes a bento on the first date"Wow, that's really weird." "He's gonna get creeped out." "It's really cute how Hikari's detached from reality.">Ayami fucks on the first date"This is fine."The double standard in this manga is sickening. Smdh.
>>272350154dissatisfied
>>272345181i wonder if this will be mirrored by yandere hikari
>>272351277By now we know that Maruto hates these decent girls for some reason, it was probably a childhood friend that fucked him over too. He probably seethes at the idea some people support Hikari.
>>272350154I don't think I've ever gotten invested enough in a losing ship to get really upset, and I MADE this Evol shitpost. But there's gotta be a first time for everything, right? WA2 landed a crit through my invuln because it made me care about both girls, and then HURT BOTH.
I bet this is the day Aya broke up with him which is why he's off
>>272351335oops forgot image
>>272351267And people are mad at him for moving on
>>272351277her actual mistake was chickening out of giving it to him.
new thread>>272347025
>emotionally manipulating him to gowhat a bitch
>>272347708foul omen with her heels dropping back to earth, surprised no one has noticed this yet
>>272351335>>272351363>tfw he's trying to reach out to yami through LINE>tfw he told hikari to not be close bacuse he didn't want her peeking at his phone by chance
damn her friend is a bitch too
>>272351526This sequence seems more like banter than the two friends being bitches.
>>272351404>see new sticky>/a/ is now a 15-minute-wait board tooFuck, the cancer is spreading. First no Incognito image-posting, and now this. What are they hiding in these cookies that they don't want us to cycle out?
>>272351511oh SHIT
Third arc will be about this girl
What's the guy's name anyway?Taku? How does that become Yuu?
>still a dance party after party to gothere will be pain
>>272351335>>272351363>Chapter 18: The Day Where Nothing Happened With Two People Where Something Might Have Happened
>>272351582
>>272351332It's been 12 years since Evol
>>272348992why would yami do that if they were in a sexual relationship of considerable length? she has every reason to insist on herself and yuu, even if it means being shunned by another group of girls. events so far indicate that yuu and yami break up at some point prior to the beginning of hikari's part of the story. the idea that yami voluntarily bowed out of the yuubowl is instantly negated by the classroom kiss, after all
>two written languagesjesus christ japan
>>272351582Yuuta, wasn't it?
>>272351669Because despite what she's gone through and her seemingly damaged exterior she is really a good girl and probably broke up because hikari is her best friend.The kiss can be explained by hormones or true love overwhelming her desire to sacrifice herself or no longer being able to lie to herself about her feelings, which is peak romance.
>>27235165999.9% to go...
>>272351669She was extremely supportive about Hikari pursuing her crush. Can you imagine what she felt when that crush was her boyfriend
>>272351669This makes much more sense, she wouldn't be this desperate if she initiated the break up, unless if there was a kiss Hikari didn't see and that's why he got slapped. And honestly this is why this part of the manga fucking sucks so much, I don't give a single damn about this retarded flashback, just go back to the actual story.
>>272351672>two
>>272351737>She was extremely supportive about Hikari pursuing her crush.when?
New thread>>272351788>>272351788>>272351788
>>272351770Chapter 15
>>272351770>aya was setting things up and eating her pain so her friend could go have festival time with her ex boyfriendOh shit so she slapped him because Yuu ruined her plan to give him up so Hikari could confess
>>272351832Fug, that does line up.
>>272351832This is why I get mad when people scream at her for being a hussy or homewrecker.She gave up her boyfriend for her friend.And it would have succeeded if he didn't go looking for HER.
>>272351814there's nothing in that chapter about her romance though, i'm not saying she was a bad friend or anything but it's clear that of the friend group she was the least invested in hikari's love antics.
>>272351893She was described by everyone as aloof and mysterious.
>>272351832>Guy still picks Yami after the break upThe kiss makes sense.
>>272351797>new threadwhat's there to discuss?see you again for the next two weeks
>>272351962How we love it
>No!>This can't be happening!>I'm the protagonist!
>>272351832>left on readowari da
>>272351999>simping for a man that will never be yoursironic.
>>272352010*NOT EVEN left on read
