>Aya-chan is... fucking my Ta-kun?>You mean... he played with her clitoris?>He went down on her?>He penetrated her?>He had rough and emotional nakadashi sex with her?>You mean to tell me she felt the joy of taking my Ta-kun's virginity?>You mean to tell me she felt the emotional connection with him that I've longed for all this time?How can Hikari even recover at this point?
By fucking him, duh....oh wait, thats right.
>>272520685Since we're following up last thread, I'm going through Koi wa Futago de Warikirenai. >>272520319 It's about twin sisters who grew up next to a boy and both had feelings for, but the "older" sister strikes first and goes out with him, but then feels guilty and breaks up with him, giving her last request to date her sister instead (who he has more in common and is honestly more attractive). Third episode in and the older sister that dumped him is now regretting it and plotting stuff. I hope she fails and malds.
>>272520802the QUALITY is awful and the story goes nowhere
>>272520893Is there no winner at the end?
>>272520930it's an ongoing shounen light novel/manga that only came out a few years ago, nothing will happen for 10 years at least
>>272520956Fug
>>272520685The last few chapters just wont stop shitting on hikari. its irrevokably OVER for hikaricels. ayami has 100000x the chemistry with Yuu, hikari just comes across as an entitled bitch
>>272520685In the indirect kiss chapter, Hikari indirectly kissed Ayami's sweet pussy....
>>272521150Ayami has basically no chemistry. She tried to turn Yuu into a whoremonger dirty pervert and failed completely when he showed basic emotional intelligence. After that she just fucked him a bunch because that is her only method of expressing affection. At least Hikari has some interest in doing stuff with Yuu and being with him casually as just two people that like being around each other.
>>272521017watching more and younger sister is pretty annoying and not as sweet as she was from first episode. I hope she shows a has a more sensitive side otherwise I don't want either of them to win.
>>272521223Just a warning. Be ready to rage in ep 12 and not the fun kind of rage.
>>272521391Oh no Does he get cucked by his friend?Just finished episode 4 and I don't like either of them. Younger sister is rude but at least she confessed she made mistakes in waiting too long. MC seems to have PTSD from his first relationship which is getting in the way of everything. Kinda realistic about how early relationships "stick". If he didn't have lingering thoughts he'd be getting along great with her I think.
>>272520685So how long will Aya's chapters last? Because I would definitely like to see if we get chapter 5, 8, 10, 11, 15, 18 and 19 and 20 from Aya's POV. Especially, 11 and 15.
>>272521492ok starting episode 5 and Naori is a huge bitchI hate all of these characters
>>272521560If it's similar to the first arc, 90~100 pages.>>272521560picrel
>>272521560the last line of narration works for both of them
>>272521587I couldn't take it past episode 6 and jumped to 12 where MC just decided not to decide and begged for another season. What trash. If he had any balls he would have left both of them for being manipulative assholes and cut ties completely.
>>272521861picrel >>272521621 was meant for youyes, it is a fucking waste of time that reeked of "we have more books to sell"
>>272520685No one cared about this manga before the NTR
>>272521932There's no NTR.
>>272520685Miku will avenge Hikari
>>272521932There was not NTR.She was simply a little too late.
>>272521996Yami stole Yuu away from Hikari
>>272522175Yuu wasn't dating Hikari nor was she in love with him when he got together with Yami.
>>272522245They were childhood friends; they were destined to be together via the red string of fate, Yami ruined all of that.
>>272520685
>>272522283>They were childhood friendsSo not NTR, as I said.
>>272522453NTR is more about the feeling caused than their relationship status.
>>272522453Anon, being childhood friends meant that Hikari had claim on Yuu.
>>272522504If they're not in a relationship, it's not NTR. It's BSS at best.
>>272523267>"akshually it's this sub-genre of NTR"same shit looking to evoke the same feelingsalso, you might've as well just have typed "bump"
>>272523297It's not fucking NTR. Imagine this: you have a crush on a girl, but she doesn't like you that way, so you find another girl. Then the first girl starts to like you afterwards. How is that NTR?
>>272523353>How is that NTR?You were stolen before the first girl could confess, hence ntr.
TO ALL HIKARIFAGS: If Hikari takes him from Yami it will actually become NTR
>>272522860>childhood friends meant that Hikari had claim on Yuu.Hikari thought like that as well and got blown the fuck out as a result after very closely observing in Ch.21 that the world, infact, doesn't revolve around her delusions
>>272523402No, it just meant that her pure romance that she envisions was ruined by a homewrecker that shouldn't have gotten close to Hikari's childhood friend.
>>272523353because I don't now if you're aware, the 取られ part means "being taken" and the emotional connection, even if one-sided, is enough to invoke the feeling
>>272523365No, you were taken before she even had any feelings for you.
>used goods heroine>ntr this or thatYou are all subhuman cucks for shilling this crap
What happened to just calling shit a love triangle or love drama
>>272523450Then every single harem/triangle with a loser CF in it (which is A LOT) is also NTR. You see how retarded that sounds?
>>272523542not all harem/triangle story is told from the perspective of the loser
>>272523541Kind of stop being a love triangle when the Male interest and the other women are in love and are in a relationship.
>>272523511>used goods heroine>by the male lead and only by the male leadThat is straight up kino
>>272523550>not all harem/triangle story is told from the perspective of the loserDoesn't make any difference. Like at all unless you are some protag obsessed retard who doesn't know how to read fiction.
>>272523511>
>>272523581of course this type of shit matters, specially when the web novel form is written from the first person perspective. this shit is so relevant that you evne have different flavors to accommodate different types of perspective:>netorare - taken from POV>netorase - above but with consentment>netori - from the POV of the person takingsince you guys love mentionining it so much, if nisekoi main POV was onodera's and it dove on her negative feelings often it would've been a netorare story.
Do we got any idea how Hikari will react after the kiss? Rereading the previous chapters really shows she thought Yui’s life revolved around her. Kind of makes me wonder how she will handle this.
>>272523607>holding hands while losing your virginities after crying in front of each otherThere is quite simply zero chance Hikari can recover from this. She can pull a Setsuna and "win", but Ayami is carved into his heart forever.
>friendly smiling virgin MC dork>has a cute childhood friend he hangs out with all the time, like a sister really>she was kind of wimpy before and frankly was hopeless without him>however she’s kinda been more girly lately and he’s developed a crush on her>hasn’t worked up the courage to confess to her but his friends are cheering him on>somewhat delinquent best friend tells him to just man up and ask her out>keeps putting it off with elaborate contrivances to find the right time>finds her kissing his best friend>not only that but they have been boyfriend/girlfriend for a while and fucked and sucked and took each other’s everything virginitiesthis is giving shades of onani master... everyone seemed to be fine with that though?
>>272523677Also, there is no way in hell Hikari could ever compete with Ayami sexually
>>272523650No. We need to wait for the flashbacks to converge on the current timeline
>>272523723Hikari wants to be wooed like a princess.Ayami is going to get that dick because it’s hers.
>>272523677>>272523723>>272523744You guys are underestimating just how emotionally manipulative and cutthroat Hikari is.
>>272523650How nuclear will there be if after a cascade of tortured self reflection there is a timeskip where Hikari’s fine with everything and is maid of honor at their wedding?
>>272523770>bake that cake, Hikari
>>272523632>if nisekoi main POV was onodera's and it dove on her negative feelings often it would've been a netorare story.In Nisekoi, their feeling were mutual at the start. In this one however, that has never been the case. You are acting just like Hikari who also thought dude was sitting in a corner waiting for her to start falling for him. Perspective doesn't change the facts and make something NTR all of a sudden. You are just butthurt and identified with the POV character way more then necessary to the point of ignoring the fucking title of the manga.
>>272523770Doesn’t Hikari lack self-reflection? The most that comes of self-reflection is the bathroom scene and she’s still confuse as fuck.
>>272523814so you're telling me half of the stuff that's tagged as NTR out there is wrong, but this only because you're gatekeeping the definition to complete arbitrarily standards you just made up to differentiate your BSS fetish from NTR
>>272523758>You guys are underestimating just how emotionally manipulative and cutthroat Hikari is.? Point out a single instance that even slightly imply that is in character for her. No, guilt tripping Yuu in to coming to festival doesn't make someone cutthroat, that just make them a basic as fuck woman
>>272523678>flashback over, they notice Hikari sees them>Yami: … right! *cough*>Yami: Hikari, this is my boyfriend Yuu>Yuu: Hello, I am Yami’s boyfriend, Yuu.>Yuu: Pleased to meet you!
>>272523856She can’t guilt trip his virginity back
>>272520685women find it attractive when they find out you have women on the side.the writer knows what he's doing.
>>272523925She pretty much has no way out at this point. This will be depression kino until she is ready to face the facts.
>>272523956>so much for my happy ending
The most interesting way for this story to go would be for Yuu and Ayami to get back together, but shift the focus back to Hikari's pov and have it be about her having to grow up and move on, maybe after trying to wedge herself between them several times to no avail. Hikari isn't a bad person but it's clear she always thought she was above Yuu, only ended up falling for him after he gained maturity (unbeknownst to her, from dating Ayami), and just took it for granted he would accept her feelings if he knew about them and played off his disinterest as him simply being "dense." In reality though Yuu grew up and got over her, and in many ways has become more of an adult than Hikari is. There's no "winning him back" so to speak, Hikari just also needs to grow and mature and realize that she made a mistake in assuming she would always be the center of Yuu's life.
People say she wasn't interested in or understood love in the past and that's why she didn't consider Yuu but she was also playing the messenger role for several girls to Yuu and was frustarated that he would turn all of them down. So it was't that she had no idea about the concept. She just truly didn't give a fuck about him.
>>272523856>Point out a single instance that even slightly imply that is in character for herOne girl showed interest in Yuu and its been living in her head rent free for weeks. To the point she pressed Yuu for information just to make sure she wasn't a threat.
>>272524214She was not being even a little bit subtle about it. If anything, that's evidence of being the complete opposite.
>>272520685i see this image and it makes me think of the head panel from akame
>>272523678So then the anons here would feel fine woth hikari spendong the rest of the manga with a better/ more present love interest instead of pulling a setsuna and orbiting this relationship forever, right
>>272523463tiptoes is so hot
cant imagine the cover for the 2nd vol
>>272524205I like how this was brought up from the webnovel version, but nobody even bothered with even posting the text in Japanese to prove it too. And people just accepted it right away.
>>272523856>? Point out a single instance that even slightly imply that is in character for her. No, guilt tripping Yuu in to coming to festival doesn't make someone cutthroat, that just make them a basic as fuck woman>Don't bring up the one time where Yuu was uncomfortable and didn't want to go to a place until the FMC decided to be a huge bitch...Also, are we going to ignore that she stalks him to create "coincidences' with him?
>>272524822I don't know who's more pathetic: Hikari or (You)
>>272524845I'm just saying that if a guy tried to create "coincidences" with a woman, he would be looked down upon for it, don't know why women get an excuse.
>>272524868It's just that is more "pathetic" than "manipulative" and if you think being that innocent and dumb action is manipulative you're kinda cute.
>>272520685I am expecting a drama CD between Yami and Yuu soon like what Maruto did for WA2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLdViwpWvsU
>>272524907i was not a fan so much content being fragmented into different formats, i wish it'd all just been in the vn
>>272524907That would work only if the whole manga turns out to be a love story between Yami and Yuu.
>>272521206>basic emotional intelligence Not something teens are known for, to be fair.>After that she just fucked him a bunch because that is her only method of expressing affection. It's been 24 hours.>>272521650>unattributed lines of dialogue intensify
>>272524868Honestly, what's the problem with creating a coincidence where you get to be with your crush?How are you supposed to be with them and befriend them if the only way to do so if by chance?
>>272524790https://note.com/saranami/m/m075a5fd4d63fCheck Ch.12
>>272523856Chapter 9, says she's a bad friend and a twisted person, but wants Yuu to accept her for that.
>>272524921>the whole manga turns out to be a love story between Yami and YuuCertified Kinography
>bother with manga and tend to stick to tiny updates like chapters>marutonope, don't need to multilayer torture myself
>>272524594Nothing can surpass this one. The perfect cuckquean smile.
>>272524594Probably just gonna be Ayami looking like this, right? Given the tones of each.
>>272525027I can’t read nip, what does it say?
>>272525012Aight, checking and posting it in a bit.
>>272520893Are you up to date with it? I read the 15 translated manga chapters, what's gonna happen later on?
>>272525394just translate with deepl or something
>>272523650I think the option that'd give the most runway would be if she ducks into hiding just as Yami runs out of the room, then has to act natural for a while, but can't pull it off very well.>>272523678The outrage was legendary at first, to be fair.>>272524374I'd be fine with her surreptitiously bullying Yami out of school and then regretting it later.>>272525012>it's realOh, how the turntables...Also,>関 (せき)>Seki>check TL'd manga page>Kan>check raw manga page>no hiraganaOh, so that's where "Kan" came from. Anyway, her name's supposed to be pronounced "Seki".
>>272521150Hikari>Pure virgin, saving herself for a lifelong marriage with her true love. Ayami>Used goods slut who fucks on the first date.Only one of these is suitable for a long term relationship, Anon. And it's not the rich girl with stepdaddy issues.
>>272524965by just being direct, that's her problem the entire time
>>272525486>>Used goodsby (You) that is.
>>272525484kouhai was a wasted character, she's cute
>>272525484more like Sexo
>>272521932The manga started with attempted NTR. It was Ayami reconfirming their relationship and preventing NTR that got this manga hyped. The readers are Anti-NTR wholesome Chads.
>>272525486>Ayami>Used goods slut who fucks on the first date.Did you even read the manga you're talking about?
>>272525428I'm on the phone
>>272523267It's not even BSS, because Yami liked him first
>>272525534That's no excuse, just select the text, copy, open translator on another tab, and paste.Truly, phones make retards.
>>272523677He doesn't realise she was a virgin though
>>272525012>昔から、バレンタインには本命チョコ一つか二つくらいは貰う程度にはモテて（その頃わたしは義理しかあげてなかったけどね！）。In the past, he was popular enough to get one or two serious chocolates during Valentine's (Back then I always gave him obligatory chocolates though!) >だから、年に一度か二年に一度くらいは、わたしに彼を紹介してって言ってくるコたちもいて（その頃のわたしはあんま気にせず会わせちゃったけどね！）。... so, around once a year, some girl asked me to introduce them to him (But back then I didn't mind and let them meet him!)>けれど、そういう場になると、いっつも彼はモジモジと居心地悪そうで。Though, he always seemed uncomfortable when that happened.>お試しでしばらくの間遊びに行ったりもするんだけど、結局長続きせずに……Even when trying to go out with them it never lasted long...She gave 0 fucks (lol) but saying she was actively manipulating them is a stretch.I think the most interesting part of this, is that he used to be popular enough to get the chocolates. So he wasn't that much of a wimp to people other than Hikari.
>>272525515Hikari thinks to herself how kouhai's cuteness looks like it'd be popular with the guys, but unpopular with the ladies. Wrrryowwrrrr.
After reading 12 and 13 and comparing to the manga... Yom is skipping a decent chunk of how stupidly funny Hikari's inner thoughts can get. The prose is a bit too simple though, I guess that comes with being a web novel.
>>272525486Not to mention that Ayami fucked a middle schooler.As well as being >Used Goods, she's probably a paedophile.
>>272525558Feels like she's coping real fucking hard and is happy he was "dense"
>>272525558>but saying she was actively manipulating them is a stretch.When this is brought up, i've only ever seen people saying she played the messenger.But i brought it up because she obviously knew what was going on so she wasn't really blind to romance like some people trying to portray her as. She just didn't give a single fuck about Yuu in that sense and dude knew it. I'm more amazed that he hold on to it as long as he did before meeting Yami.
>>272525558>So he wasn't that much of a wimp to people other than Hikari.It just reinforces the idea that she seen herself superior in every sense all this time.
>>272525736>I'm more amazed that he hold on to it as long as he did before meeting Yami.That's what inferiority complex does to a motherfucker. I'm glad he met Yami and moved on.
>>272520685>He went down on her?no, he's not a cuck
>>272525558bro really was a standard romcom protag in middle school. Jesus, imagine being this much of a beta to a stacy.
>>272525877he could've scored with some rando even before meeting ayami
>>272525558>So he wasn't that much of a wimp to people other than Hikari.This sounds like one of those things where he reflexively acts different around the person he likes, so they have a totally different impression of his personality than other people.>>272525632Ackshually he had graduated by that time, so it's kosher!
>>272525983>
>>272525877Things all worked out for him. The message really is "just have sex".
>>272525877His complex made him completely blind to anyone else. It was like a curse and Yami lifted it
Yuu never had a chance as a kid....
>>272526254>I'm willing to change who I am to get him to like meIt's over for Yuu. He's getting Nice Boated.
>>272526345holy fucking shit I just realized why usami in golden kamuy had the face he did after seeing this how the fuck did I not make this connection all these years
>>272526345>He's getting Nice Boated.nah
>>272526345>>272526363>>272526394The seeds of her being a manipulative bitch and possessive are planted on chapter 9. She will not be cuckquean. She will not take losing with grace. She will make Yuu love her.
yami gods how are we feeling on this fine day?
>>272526521Where can I find the stuff you smoked to reach that conclusion from the segment you posted?
>>272524355And she probably feels the same way as the head in Akame.
>>272526521Maruto wouldn't do that.
Can Aya pull a Botan and keep the guy and her friend?
In the novel, Hikari fell in love with Yuu fucking hard. God damn.
Also, Hikari is in complete denial that Aya is the one kissing Yuu.
>>272527375>Hikari is in complete denial that Aya is the one kissing Yuu.Mindbreak is so hot
>>272527521I want her to be more snek rather than kot
>>272526394As an airlinefag I see NTR between airlike alliances all the time
>>272527375>it being Aya is melting her brain 10x harder than Ta-kun being kissed by just anyoneFug
>>272523463>>272523607>2049.whateverformatyouuse
>>272520685Yabba dabba doo?
>>272527375Who is she talking to? Is she a schizo
>>272528224>t. don't have an inner monologue
>>272528289not everyone has imagination
>>272528494inner monologue and visualization aren't mutually exclusive
>>272528494I used to be 5 but then I watched too much anime and now I imagine everything as anime
>>272526146What worked out for him? He's still orbiting around Hikari and clearly emotionally strung around her. Only on the way he had a failed relationship with a mentally ill wannabe slut.
>>272526521Her manipulation so far has been literal toddler tier. She's basically incapable of maliciousness.
>>272528764He's her friend, that's why they hang out so often. And it's mostly her who seeks him out, not the other way around.
>>272520685I hope Hikari wins.
I hope no one wins
I hope Yami wins.
Hikari and Yami should fuck.
>>272525877>>272525983>>272526146"Give up on your oneitis and have sex."
>>272530585He seems obsessed with dunking on the same archetype of girl. Maybe he should follow his own advice and listen to Abe.
>>272531507Who is "he"? What "same archetype of girl"?
>>272531687Maruto.
>>272531758He was definitely burned badly by a CF. That's ok though as long as the story is good.
>>272531826I wouldn't limit it to CF, it's always the homely/girl-next-type type.
>>272531910The homely/girl-next-door type girl won in Saekano.
>>272527375So after NTR we get mindbreak next.
Those are also common loser-girl traits in anime IN GENERAL, to the point of getting a parody show last season.
Oh, it's antiromcomschizo again.
>>272528494That image was always worthless misinformation.It's not that people with aphantasia don't have imagination, it's just that they primarily imagine in concepts rather than trying to paint images in their head. You can still be an artist, engineer, designed, etc. with aphantasia, your workflow will just be different.
>>272532364NTA, I'm just pointing out it's not a Maruto-specific thing, so there's no indication it's personal.
childhood friends has to be the worst heroine trope in fictionliterally just step-step-siblings
>>272533195Captain Save-a-Hoe for some chick that sucked old man dick for money is the most pathetic fetish.
>>272533195nah, it's brown sporty tomboy
>>272533195Impure heroines is currently the worst trend.
>>272533488>sucked old man dick for moneyat least read the manga first
>>272533787Read it yourself. She was a sugar baby for old men. She might not have gotten her cunt reamed out, but no one pays for a whore like that without cumming at the end. She's choked down tons of old man cock.
>>272533833Again, at least read the manga first
holy speed reading
>>272533861Sorry dude, your waifu almost got raped by her step-dad, ran away, spent months bouncing between friends and hotels slurping geezer semen for spending money. Lucky at least one hole of hers was left untouched for Yuu.
>[anon's thinly-veiled fetish intensifies]
>>272533938you'd like that, wouldn't youI bet you also have some trash to share with the class about why they broke up.
Finally some guests from mangadex.
>>272534714I like my women chaste. I like my women like I like my money, not covered in another guy's semen. They probably broke up over some Yami self-destructive masochist shit. She's the type to have massive Woman Moments.
>>272534917keep thinking that, you want them pure yet you also imagine all the ways they could get soiled by other men, you're the biggest cuck here, a total in-denial freak.
>>272533195Haibara/Shiho should have won
>"yami-senpai, can we try anal?">no"" >*you're here*my theory
are actual hikarifags really this mindbroken or is it just falseflagging
>>272534996>should have wonIt hasn't ended yet, has it?Also, wrong, Ran for lyfe.
>>272535121Naa, its just one retard larping
>>272520685Why is the Yotsubafag from 5toubun posting this shit though?
>>272535815Yotsubafags didn't exist until after she won.
>>272527375>No, no, no ,no ,no ,no ,no ,no, no......
>>272527375What does this mean?
>>272537760No... No...! That's impossible!
What I don’t understand is why Yuu was able to just immediately forget about the girl he just banged after an emotional connection was formed to go straight back to pining for Hikari. Normally he should start focusing on the girl he slept with and even if he still had feelings for another one he should start making an effort to switch over to the one who put out. However it works out it’ll be unsatisfying because since we know it wasn’t a normal break-up it’ll just be something nonsensical and forced.
>>272538866Yuu didn't forget Yami nor start "pining for" Hikari, where did you get that?
>>272538866>to go straight back to pining for HikariDid he though?
>>272538866>straight back to pining for HikariEntire outrage about this manga is due to the revelation that he was NOT pinning for Hikari during the entirety of first 20 chapters and everything was Hikari's one sided delusions.
>>272537760She's fine not being Yuu's first, but please don't let it be by my best friend kek
>>272538866It only makes sense if Ayami exploded that relationship.
>>272540389Definitely, we can guess Yami ran away at the maid cafe after she saw Yuu, and then Yuu went chasing her.Yuu was most likely talking about Yami when he told Seki he already had someone.And Yami slapping Yuu only to kiss him absolutely points to her being the one that broke things up, probably something about her family.
>Yuu keeps coming back to YamiIt's over.
>>272541432Erotical black hole>Captcha: D0RYA
Is there really no novelupdates entry nor WN translation?
>>272541432Did Nasu write this?
>>272542466no
>>272524594Ayami's "I'm gonna corrupt your soul" face on a dark background to bait readers.
Reading the novel makes me realize that Hikari fell so fucking hard for Yuu. Holy shit. She's madly in love with him. Why did the Manga skimp those parts. Chapter 21 hits way harder with this in mind.
>>272543653i guess yom wanted to try to keep the internal monologue to a minimum
>>272543702But like I'm talking about how certain scenes were omitted. Like the train chapter goes on longer than just meeting up at the station, Hikari literally eats Yuu up with how much she's glazing him.
>>272543539>doubling down on the false advertisingDevilish!>>272543702I mean, the manga chapters are still pretty loaded with Hikari narration, but that can't be helped.
>>272527375Is she having a mental breakdown because it’s Aya?
>>272544567they are, but it feels like parts that are more just her musings, asides and reminisces are what get stripped away>>272543913yeah it's cut down in general, usually captures the gist well enough but still
>>272545328On top of the simple shock of it being a close friend, she only knows the cool, seductive older girl persona that Aya projects, it probably makes it feel more like Yuu is being stolen away by someone 'better'.
You know, now I understand why Kokoro ended the way it ended as soon as Sensei found someone he could confide to.
>There's no "Ta" sound anywhere in Yuu's real name, it's just the kanji joke from the date chapter where the kanji 夕 and the katakana タ look the fucking sameOh okay.
>>272546158His last name is Takamura.
>>272546375Fuck, you're right. She still blames it on the moonrunes rooking same though.
>>272545666did you read the light novel?
>>272546952What light novel?
>>272546973>What light novel?Kokoro Connect
>>272547017I was talking about Kokoro, by Natsume Souseki.
>In ch.1, Hikari teases Yuu about whether anything interesting happened at school that day, like someone confessing to him, and him having to turn them down by saying he already liked someone else for a long time>Yuu denies he would ever use that excuse even if someone confessed to him>uses that exact excuse 11 chapters later on pushy kouhai while Hikari is eavesdroppingAh, shit. I wonder if he used that one a lot in middle school?
>>272546952>>272547017nta but please read something other than LNs, anon
>>272547233>Yuu outright lies to Hikari without any hesitation
>>272545462Would that imply if it was a normal girl, she would have a chance at stealing him back
>>272547408>please read something other than LNs, anon???
>Ch.5 says Hikari first mentioned Ta-kun to her friends during a sleepover at her houseHmmm. So this means:>they didn't catch a glimpse of him at that time>Aya's never been to his house, OR didn't attend the sleepover
>>272549272Well duhIf she or any other woman had been there chances are Hikari would've been aware at some point.
>>272549272Aya is already known to not care that much about Hikari's love life, probably because she's focus on her own.
>>272549272probably hung out at the apartment she brought the other girls to so they could drink & fuck without his parents in the way
>>272549272>when asked about kissing, Aya has to think how many years ago her last one wasHmm, that would suggest her fling with Yuu already ended last year, OR they stopped making out (yeah right), OR she was hiding it, OR she has early-onset Alzheimers.
>>272549551Doesn't Aya have some sort of persona that she creates for her friends? She could just be lying.
>>272549272I don't think any of the girls saw him until he visited the school.
>>272549551sounds more like a joke in context with the other girls calling her aya-sensei and all
>>272549588If her default is depressed slut, then her persona is less depressed slut. Not that big of a difference
>>272549272just noticed the cut down manga version of this scenes loses the gag+characterization of her totally not listening to the hikari's romance convo until her name is called
>>272549551God, I hope not, then the drama is retarded as fuck. It would be better if they were dating recently up until chapter 11 before Aya broke up with Yuu.
>>272550028The manga lost a lot of characterization in general, from both descriptions and inner monologues. And I don't think it's because of those being hard to translate to the manga version, but because the page count for each chapter ends up being way too short.
>>272549551>Hmm, that would suggest her fling with Yuu already ended last yearNo it wouldn't, why would she need to pause to remember how many years ago it was? She's doing a bit because they asked for a lecture from Aya-sensei, pretending to reminisce and shit. Her next line is straight to the point. Remember this is her first scene as well, it's the reader's introduction to her whole persona and casual attitude.
>>272550362On the other hand, we get Hikari's great meme faces.
>When those deep eyes that seem to see through everything stare at me, there's no way for a girl like me who doesn't know anything but is overflowing with curiosity to resist...Hikari...
>>272550588She fell real fucking hard for her childhood friend.
>>272550650she's talking about aya
>>272550588>turns feMC gay with her mere gazeHeh, nothing personnel, kouhai
>>272549272>>272549551Any obvious signs of Yuu being taken that Hikari just missed? I kind of want to know if its obvious that Yuu is taken, but Hikari is just blind to that.
>in ch.16, the other couple from the double date were actually classmates who individually confessed to Hikari or Yuu in middle school, got rejected by them, and paired up with each other later.>Yuu tactfully rolled with their assumption that he and Hikari were now dating to keep the conversation from getting awkward, but Hikari thought his smile looked stiff>like the manga, he starts sweating bullets when they assume he got into Hikari's high school>>272551449Not so far, I think.
>>272551449Not at all. This whole debate if they broke before or after chapter 11 exists because of that. When people say this twist was unpredictable with how it was pulled weren't kidding. The hints we get really pass off as some casual chatter and connecting them without seeing the twist would be too much of a stretch, specially considering the overall cheerful tone.You could say from a meta perspective that it HAD to be Aya because she was the only character that got some modicum of characterization but guessing no other characters would be introduced and characterized is a far shot.
>>272551852Them breaking up before chapter 11 doesn’t make sense since it would have been too long since they last met and both of them wouldn’t have been emotional. Breaking up after chapter 11 makes the most sense since their feeling are still raw.
>>272552421i agree but not for that reason, a bad breakup can leave lingering feelings for a long time, especially when suddenly seeing the person unexpectedly like what happened to yami
>>272552421>>272552542To be honest, I don't care about the when or why because it doesn't change the outcome. The how is way more important.
>ch.18, after the first day of the new schoolyear (morning periods only), Yuu's behavior while hanging out with Hikari feels off to herThis almost reads like he found out Aya and Hikari were friends, and was quietly checking if anything had shaken up with them.
>school festival day>Yuu goes "oops, I overslept"AYAWHAT'S YOUR ALIBI
>>272552542Nah bro, nobody slaps and kisses afterwards after a bad breakup unless it was a toxic relationship.
before >>272520685 >omg they are in the same room, get married already lol XD.After >>272520685 >/a/nons deconstructing the timeline from every chapter and WN.
>>272553303Waffling about going at all? Didn't want to risk running into her unexpectedly?
>>272549551>>272549272Every time this writer does Drama it's fucking retarded and just makes me hate the drama bringer even more.
Is it too late to recover from this? Her friend might be sleeping with her love interest but that doesn’t mean the war is over right?
>>272554427>Is it too late to recover from this?The FMC is having a mental breakdown at seeing her best friend and childhood friend kiss together.>>272527375
>>272554427Recover what? If you mean their friendship that would be retarded, it's just kicking the issue down the line. If you mean the pairing it's not their decision to make, but Yuu's.
>>272554541I’m just going to say it. The FMC should just throw herself in front of a random guy and have sex. That will make it even.
>>272554427I'm more interested in the fact that the Hikari might fix Yuu's low self-esteem problem.
>>272554692Has this ever worked in fiction or in real life?
>>272554741Work?
>>272554741What do you mean by "worked"? I've witnessed some real life examples but those might not be the answers you're seeking because I've never seen love so deep that takes over one's own being. In fiction it depends on what the story is trying to convey.The general idea is that if you're a virgin, you can take at least this out of your system to try and think clearly without being swamped by sexual frustration.
>>272554692Plot twist, its this guy
>>272554727Yeah, people here are forgetting that Yami corrupted him
>>272554902I mean as a way of "getting even" with the cheater. It always seemed to me like they wouldn't care.
>>272553727i like that in mdex comments, before ch 21 was dropped, the chapter that had that page is filled with OMG YURI ENDING's commentshow the turntable
>>272555097If the person doesn’t have feelings they won’t. But the point is getting even with yourself rather than getting back at anyone in particular.
>>272555097Probably not.It's not about getting back at them, it's about putting yourself at an even level. Yami might be acting very cynical when talking about kisses, it's just that. Sex is also just sex and once you see past that you can address the underlying emotions.
>>272555403but it's just that*
>>272554727Aya already fixed him, that's why Hikari started liking him
>>272555636Aya broke him and corrupted him. He had pure love for Hikari and now he doesn’t even look at her.
>>272555364>>272555403Naruhodo naruhodozenzen wakaranai
She's going to try to steal Yami away to get back at Yuu
>>272555652That pure love made Hikari look down on him and shit talked him in her thoughts.
>>272556000That whore Ayami looked down on him and shit talked him in her thoughts.Coincidence? Odds are getting dicked will fix that.
>>272556055Because he was thinking of another girl while with her.
>>272556055Ah, but he fixed her by NOT erecting the D. Unless this is some mirror theory where light is what fixes dark, and dark is what fixes light.
>Earlier chapters had Hikari admit that some girls were interested in Yuu>Chapter 16 comes around and says She's been the only woman who has been interested in Yuu in his entire life.Is DEEPL failing me or is our girl rewriting history in her mind.
>>272557018you could try GPT, copypaste the sections that say that from the various chapters and ask if Yuu is popular or not.I think GPT really shines on these summarization tasks.
>>272557018>その気があるのは一人だけだって。she's saying she's the only one interested out of yu & her>festival chapter took place the same dayhuh, was this not clear in the manga or was i just speedreading? makes sense why trying to live up to her and getting into the school in particular were on his mind so much then.
>>272557165>huh, was this not clear in the manga or was i just speedreading?you were probably speed reading it, it was made clear after the cafe chapter, Yuu and Hikari went to the festival where Yuu told Hikari the truth.
>>272557165This is correct. Translation is something like.>We weren't dating back in middle school.>It's a shame that even now we're still not dating.>(It seems) Only I feel this way.
>>272525394
>>272525378Ayami in Yuu's school dress shirt and nothing else
>>272525558holy cuckquean batman
>>272525580flash forward to pulling on kouhai twintails while she's eating out hikari's box in mutual frustration
>>272558262>Inevitably, the "disadvantage of being a childhood friend" will come along with you, which could ruin your date plans. Good lord, its painful how she's genre savvy about this, but is somehow ignorant of her position in Yuu's life.
>>272527151sounds like she fell in love with him being tall
>>272527375
>>272527375fuck this is hotgoing to find some TTS of james earl jones to read this
>>272535121read dex and leddit comments and see
>>272533493Based. There's some I like but generally it's such a by the numbers heroine. It's practically the West's Yamato Nadeshiko.
>>272533938I get that this is an epic and based troll post, but just for anyone reading along- we saw her very first attempt to meet a sugar daddy, and we saw Yuu (unintentionally) scuttle it. She never sold herself.
>>272535815There wasn't a single "Yotsubafag" in any 5Toubun threads for years until after she got her pity win.
>>272539295I'm still not sure that's correct, I think he was still caught up on Hikari. But I'd be happy to be wrong.
>>272558757The only time the guy acted like he was pinning for Hikari was in chapter 16 and 18. And chapter 16 is due to an idiot friend blabbing to Hikari how Yuu made a promise to be with her in highschool. And chapter 18 he was acting weird as fuck.
>>272541432>My ex-bf became the love of my best friend's lifeCute
>>272558745I had her as my #2. I thought his chemistry was best with itsuki. Ichika worst.
not enough feet shots what a waste, throw in some aya footjobs or something
>>272532378>That image was always worthless misinformation.>t. moron who can't conjure an apple in his head
Looking back at it, it would have been better if Aya and Yuu were dating and not broken up.
>>272559524Not really. It is going to make Yami even more sympathetic once it turns out she gave up on her love for her friend's sake.
>>272559636nah bro, them being in a relationship while Hikari didn't know about it, would have been realistic.
>>272559757>them being in a relationship while Hikari didn't know about itBut that's exactly what happened anyway.
>>272560031Yeah, but they're "broken" up, yet still in love with one another to kiss.
>>272550028They mention that outright in the "date" chapter
>>272553727This series barely even got threads before the twist. It tanked the rating as all the original readers felt betrayed, but it's made it have something fun to actually discuss.
>>272554427>Here's how Hikari can still win Real talk, Aya hasn't confessed yet and the festival tradition is for the couple that confess to be together forever.
>>272560174>the original readers felt betrayedthey didn't know it was a maruto work
>>272560222desu i think a lot of people didn't, readers or not
>>272560206But what if Yuu confessed instead? Why else would Aya slap him.
>>272560174By the speed this thread there are at most 15 anons here and most are WA2 widows. And this is totally being treated like a general now that the people who cared about the twist left.
>>272560382Never watch nor played WA2, how violent does it get?
>Japanese readers want Hikari to kill Yuu.
What's stopping him from just fucking both of them
>>272560929Because he is in love with one and not in love with the other?
>>272560902I was surprised last week when two whole people left comments in their note page. Engagement on that shit is abysmal.
>>272560902What’s the bad end option? Hikari kills Yui or all three just destroy their friendship
>>272560902No they don't, but this guy imagining Hikari getting fucked by Ayami's stepdad while she cries is funny as fuck. Hikarikeks are absolutely mindbroken.
>>272561008audience for this kinda thing is probably all on twitter
>>272561121>Hikarikeks are absolutely mindbroken.It was supposed to be a fluff romcom.
>>272560636If you want pure raw emotions, read it.
Did /a/ just discover this manga or something?
>>272561121based sufferingfag
>>272561326/a/ and /h/ are in a war to what determines ntr
>>272522290Is this worth picking up if I like the manga in the OP? I'm a sucker for telenovelas.
>>272561506This is this and that is that.And that is fun.
>>272561300Haruki crying at the end in KTE always gets me
>>272560382This is like a week after a nothingburger 0 5 chapter. There's more organic threads when the chapters actually drop
>>272561506It's not clear which way it's going to go yet, but given who the author is, it's likely it'll become a WA2like instead of a Telenovalike.
>>272561577We rarely had threads one week after a chapter dropped. People started treating this like a general.
>>272561577When's the next chapter? Tomorrow?
>>272561594>it'll become a telenovela instead of a Telenovalike.what did anon mean by this?
>>272558757He had/may still has a massive inferiority complex concerning Hikari. Not every obsession is out of love. But he obviously grew out of it a little after meeting Yami which most likely what made Hikari look at his way.
>>272561506If you like yet another friendless NPC with a harem, sure.
>>272561638If it was a Telenova then Hikari and possibly Ayami would be fucking other guys, like is occasionally suggested in these threads. WA2 keeps both girls completely devoted to the MC, and thus keeps the drama/romance centered on their dynamic. Most likely this will do similar.
>>272561909>If it was a Telenova then Hikari and possibly Ayami would be fucking other guysCorrect.
>>272561909Why make a repeat of WA2? I don't think that will happened. I think Hikari will spiral downwards mentally.
>>272561953is this cuckshit still ongoing?
>>272561953>>272562006>Comes into a thread to post about a completely unrelated series>Has his misleading images ready at the hand for posting, so he can assure us it's definitely, 100% an NTR series, despite no NTRI'm guessing next he'll spam the same fanfic he's posted 5x already.
What the heck was that? Does Eriri even win in her ending?
>>272559636I doubt she will be viewed sympathetic by Hikari since she stole all of Yui’s first time.
>>272562714Her spin-off was axed.>>272562723>she will be viewed sympathetic by HikariIt's about reader's perspective, not about Hikari.
>>272562743Then it also failed. At least for me.She committed the cardinal sin of "hoes before bros."
>>272562766>Then it also failed. At least for me.Well, looking at these threads, it didn't fail for many other readers. I can understand your perspective too though.
>>272562779I'm looking for a different thing from this story other than betting on waifu races. I'm trying to see if Maruto can make a character I can like and we're off to a bad start...
One thing I didn't get is, does Yami already know Hikari's crush is Yuu? Or does she only realize they're the same guy when he goes to their school?
>>272562827>does Yami already know Hikari's crush is Yuu?She only realizes at chapter 11 of the story. Which is why many anons think Yami and Yuu were dating up until then.
>>272562822But it's just a you thing again. I like her a lot as a character already, and it's only been 4 chapters of her actual development.
>>272560264Holy cursed. I could see it.>>272561627Next Sunday.
>>272562839>realizesShe has a suspicion at best
>>272563794Why would she? She literally thought the guy's name was Ta-kun until that point and its already been noted that she isn't all that interested in Hikari's love life.
>>272563794>>272563918>Hikari's CF name turned out to be Yuu>the Yuu she knows wanted to enter the same school they attend with Hikari to be with his CF>she knows they are the same year with HikariIt's not that hard of a nut to crack.
>>272563977yeah and that's why people think they broke up after chapter 11
>>272558518MY BODY IS READYhttps://files.catbox.moe/lp088z.webm
>>272527375It's always the pure ones that fall the hardest.
>>272564080Is that from Rogue One? Still need to watch that.>8 yearsDamn.
>>272564204Outside of that scene and Ben Mendelsohn's performance, the entire movie is forgettable dreck like any Star Wars media post-2005.
>>272564204Awful movie. Don't waste your time.
>>272525484That threw me off when I first read it. The translators should have assumed it was Seki in the first place, that's the common reading you see. I've never encountered "Kan" anywhere.
>>272525580Hikari literally calls her a landmine
Why didn’t Yuu just tell Hikari about Yami from the start? I mean, she’s like a sister to him and his closest friend, and from his pov, she wouldn’t be against it, right? The only reason I can think of is that he still couldn’t fully let go of those feelings. It would’ve been like a symbolic gesture, kind of like when Mio in Just Because reflects on her feelings, hands over the eraser, and moves on.
>>272566223Because Yuu is a guy.Why would a guy ever talk about his sappy romance and shit like that.That topic would never spring up.
>>272566223I'd never bring up a topic like this to a girl I've been in love with for a very long time even if we were friends.
>>272564035Exactly, Yami probably forced breakup because she is in the same boat as rest of reading audience who was following along with Hikari’s fluffy innocent first love story, until she realized it was not only directly involved her, but Yami herself is the one torpedoing it for her friend.Must have crippled her with guilt.
>>272562006author is sick and not desperately trying to write herself out of a hole, please understand
>>272561746It would have been even more schadenfreude if childhood flashbacks showed Yuu being really clingy and constantly trying to show off in front of Hikari to impress her and she responded by getting annoyed until she finally told him it’s never going to happen that way, she just sees him as a friend
>>272566223You mean telling Hikari "btw, I got a girlfriend" at some point, after she stopped being his only goal?>>272566573>>272566658To be fair, she often teasingly asks how his love life is going, like in >>272547233 or in ch18, so he doesn't have to bring it up himself. Rather, he denies anything is going on. I guess any confirmation would've been immediately followed by questions about when/how they met, and answering those would open too big a can of worms unless he lied, so he might as well keep it under wraps from the start.
>>272560382>stop discussing thing I don’t like!>get back to making a dozen CSM and DDD threads!
>>272566223Because he's a guy.t. Been there done that
>>272566223>hey hikari i just meet some senpai end we fucked on the same night! i really liked her and emotionally connected to heryeah not happening
>>272567152>Rather, he denies anything is going on. IThat's probably because at that point they broke up already.
Let's settle this. Who's best girl?https://strawpoll.com/kogjRq4N1g6
>>272567152Assuming she doesn’t affect him anymore. it’s been almost a year.
>>272567285That would be before chapter 1, which I guess is possible. Aya's wording in >>272525378 implies he was already her ex when Hikari fell for him (in which case, where's the problem?), but it's hard to tell how much to read into the exact wording.
when is the next chapter coming out?
>>272567514Should be next Sunday.
>>272567441>Aya's wording in >>272525378 implies he was already her ex when Hikari fell for himI was questioning it in the previous thread. I am not sure if she was saying he already was "ex" by the time she learnt of Hikari's crush or she simply refers to him as her ex.
>>272567337>From left to right we have Yuu's cumdumps
>>272567568Yeah, it could still be either. I think having the word "former" there adds a lot of speculah material for fans about how/when they broke up, which is nice.>>272567706That would put a whole new perspective on their reactions to Yuu at the maid cafe.
>>272567895>all of Hikari's friends fucked him except herselfI would unironically keel over and die laughing
i wonder, how many of the people that got angry at the "ntr" actually dropped this? i'm pretty sure they all will be back for the next chapter
>>272567337YAMI GANG
>>272568184just look at the mangadex comments447 on the ntr chapter, 394 on the pure love sex.they're definitely still there
Hikari is the doroboneko
>>272567706>>272567895>>272568107Hikari would 100% stab everyone if this were the case
>>272567706Hikari is always the last in line.
>>272568184they're going to stay if only to moan and groan for the rest of the publication
>>272570466>Yami wasn't even yuus firstDamn Yuu is sloppy fourths
>>272573091Wrong
When is the next chapter dropping?
>>272575278Should be next Sunday.
>>272575114Fifths?!?!?
>>272567895>>272568107It would also explain why he slunk out of there ASAP after Yuki dropped by the table, and why he was reluctant to visit Hikari's school in the first place...>>272573091And now the slap gains a new perspective...
>>272520802I'm fairly sure that one got anime last season and ended up with a catfight + MC pussying out from choosing a winner. He loved having options and refused to let go of any of them. He even tried to propose a 3P but the girls shot him down on the spot kek.
>>272575566Haganai was ten years ago, anon. You need to let go
>>272575625You have no idea how popular this formula is, anon.
Although he's not as bad as Sasuga kei or Seo I still want off Maruto's rideBut I can't stop reading
>>272521560Plot twist, it will be revealed that it was Hikari that saved Ayami from her depression and made her sociable while Yuu just gave temporary relief though sex
>>272576174I wait for rides like this. There's nothing better.
>>272576315I've got some chips on that option. That'd be the route where the breakup was longer ago.
>>272576315You isn’t the type of guy that’s a sex pest
How do you people discuss the same plot point over and over again though? Shit is weird
>>272567706The landmine chick is missing though.
>>272576174Doing daily threads is the best kind of shitposting for this series because it only publishes twice a week and it's only half the pages of a regular serialization so people get more riled up and obsessed over each release.
>>272577567This general is pretty comfy
>>272577735twice a month* and half the page count of a weekly serialization, which means we are getting one weekly-length chapter per month.
>>272577567Once in a while someone unearths a new nugget of info. But now that we've mined the novel chapters too, I fear lean times are ahead.
>>272566223Because the entire story hinges on miscommunication. If he had told Hikari he got a girlfriend before she fell in love with him this story would've been probably over before it even started. And even if she didn't give up, Hikari would've been a completely different character.And also because it's the simplest romantic triangle story template to write as it doesn't require external events to setup the characters as every conflict is intrinsic to them.>>272578416And almost all new nuggets found turned out to be pyrite. Here's a list the relevant things we learned that weren't translation hiccups by the MTL anon:>Kan name should be Seki (woah! ...)>Hikari didn't care back in middle school but she wasn't intentionally mean to him.>Yami either didn't attend the sleepover at Hikari's place or didn't know where Yuu lived. Or both.
>>272579228Maybe yami didn’t go to the sleep over.
>>272579304Do you not know what the word "attend" means?
>>272520685I seriously want to see yams and yuu relationship last a year and be happy wholesome because that’s literally the only way I can see why Yami kiss him at chapter 21.
>>272579597Maybe they got the whole "passionate but volatile relationship à la Kazusa and Haruki" thing going. They have completely different personalities, so I can see it being the case.
>>272579228hikari calling the other couple leftovers was pretty mean desumaybe the translation makes it seem worse though
>>272579707> passionate but volatile relationship I hope so. Would explain why they’re so passionate with one another
>>272579228>And also because it's the simplest romantic triangle story template to write as it doesn't require external events to setup the characters as every conflict is intrinsic to them.I've always thought of it as being harder to write (well) due to the same restriction.We also learned Yuu straight-up lies about his love life whenever Hikari asks. And that he "overslept" on festival day. And that Aya's betrayal is hitting Hikari harder than Yuu's.
>>272579921The latter isn't really a betrayal from her perspective. Yuu is, as far as she knows, unaware of her feelings so him hooking up with another girl is an obstacle but not a deliberate hurt. It's why she was agitated but not overly upset with him going out with the kohai. On the other hand, from her perspective it looks like Aya is deliberately taking the guy she likes.
>>272579921> We also learned Yuu straight-up lies about his love life whenever Hikari asks.Not really lies. Since it’s just a one sided infatuation on the girls side >And that he "overslept" on festival day.Maybe he did. >And that Aya's betrayal is hitting Hikari harder than Yuu's.Aya kiss Yuu first btw. Which is worse since Aya was cheering her on.
>>272579707Doesn't work as well in my opinion. Kazusa personality was "savant womanchild" all the way through, so her making that many clumsy and irrational decisions fit perfectly every time.Yami is smart and very functional, her issues only started after her mother remarried and seem to be mostly over in the present. She should understand the ramifications of her own actions much better than Kazusa ever did.
where's the translated wn?
>>272580122>Yami is smart and very functional,She's emotional and distant. Not to mention clingy and possessive, >her issues only started after her mother remarried and seem to be mostly over in the presentI don't know if her issues are over if she's just better at hiding them.>She should understand the ramifications of her own actions much better than Kazusa ever did.I won't deny that, I wonder what she thinks of her trying to corrupt Yuu for simply being down
>>272580122I'm not taking about Kazusa's "clumsy and irrational decisions", I'm talking about her relationship dynamic with Haruki. They're deeply in love with each other but they also get on each other's nerves, like in the Kazusa After Story, because of their clashing personalities.
>>272580054Good point, this is all happening really fast for her.>>272580099He covers up being asked out, but also the excuse he uses to reject them (that Hikari was correctly guessing), since that'd get touchy.>Maybe he did.Maybe, but it's fishy. Writing-wise, if he had arrived earlier and had a chapter accompanying Hikari around the festival before her shift started, it might've made the kiss scene even more explosive. So why didn't the writer milk that? Maybe a volume pagecount constraint? I doubt that though, since it's an indie doujin thing.>>272580122I dunno, she's already made some pretty drastic choices in her downward spiral, like enkou, spite sex, and arguably the passionate sex with Yuu.
>>272555097Cheaters are often very jealous and possessive. At least if we're talking a mutual relationship and not just a case of one party being cynically played.
When's next chapter anyways?
>>272580629That's because she cannot change herself. She can be comfortable around Haruki but it's not like she can change herself, even if it's for him. In the ending where she made a decision it's the worst shit ever for everyone involved and that happened because of how she is.And that retarded mini story, yet again, Lady Mary Sue Ogiso Setsuna was working her ass off to convince everyone to create a fairy tale ending for the couple. It's cute, but it's still retarded.>>272580781I'm not saying she's infallible, everyone can make terrible decisions, even more during their lowest moments. It's just hard to hold her to the same standards when she has a much better understanding of her own actions.
>>272581098see >>272561627 >>272563752or >>272567514 >>272567521or >>272575278 >>272575314
>>272581201No
>Yuu refused to sniff these
>>272581333Yuu was in love with her all of his childhood and got nothing but heartbreak. He moved on to Someone better.
>>272581333
>>272581368He never stated his feelings.>"But she would've rejected him."Doesn't change the fact above. Even in the present he never mentioned he liked her in the past, having moved on or not.
>>272579597>>272579707>>272580629I was thinking "passionate but couldn't fix their issues", if the breakup was longer ago.
>>272581512They break up but remain friends, despite the obvious feelings they have for each other
>>272581577The slap made me think it was more of a messy breakup with raw lingering regrets. If they were still friends, the Hikari thing seems like it'd be less of an issue.
>>272580399I think there's no novel TLs so far, and people are just using MTL to get something decipherable.
>>272581692>The slap made me think it was more of a messy breakup with raw lingering regretsWhile I'm not going to dismiss the messy breakup scenario, the slap could also mean that Yami couldn't bottle up her feelings for Yuu anymore. I mean, even Yuu was acting agitate in that scene. >If they were still friends, the Hikari thing seems like it'd be less of an issue.Them being friends despite the both of them knowing they love each other could be a problem in itself. Since they would have to fake it to not only themselves, but each other.
>>272520685>not ending the post with yabba dabba doo
>>272527375Holy fuck, I can’t wait to go back to Hikari’s narration
hurr durr bumperidoo am I right sisters
>>272581784Are the MTL even accurate
>>272581692My current theory is that Aya used him going to the festival with Hikari as an excuse to break up with him, he was trying to apologize in the classroom and she slapped him to try and keep up the act but broke down and kisses him
>>272582839more meh than badthe best MTL you can get is asking gpt for a "word-by-word meaning, grammar explanation, and then put together for a direct translation and a slang english localization"this works wonders more often than deepl or google, but it still kinda sucks and it's very taxing for little return.the things the mtls butcher the most are negatives, who-did-what, and genders. all things that can totally change the meaning of the sentence with a simple mistake
>>272582624It makes me wonder if the flashbacks covering how Aya and Hikari met will be separated from the Aya x Yuu flashbacks by a brief return to the present that advances things there a bit. I think keeping the flashbacks continuous might be a better idea than coming back briefly and then blueballing readers with "ANOTHER flashback arc".>>272582839Hopefully enough to figure out the gist, with the manga for reference. It gets he/she wrong a lot due to Japanese frequently omitting the subject in followup sentences, so you may have to mentally flip some lines around based on context.
>>272583136>might be a better idea than coming back briefly and then blueballing readers with "ANOTHER flashback arc".Especially since we still need to see Yuu's viewpoint to really get a full picture. Though that doesn't necessarily have to be a full flashback arc.
>>272582948I'm thinking she might've broken up with him around the start of school in ch.18, when Hikari felt his behavior was off compared to before/during summer. On the other hand, this seems like a pretty long wait after ch.12 for Aya to make a move. Maybe she was just avoiding him for months without explaining or officially breaking up until then.
>>272583486Aya could have been in denial that Hikari was in love with the same Yuu as her. Or maybe she thought Hikari’s crush on Yuu was a passing fancy. Could be she was trying psych herself up into breaking things off.
>>272583486The timeline not being clear makes it hard to pinpoint a lot of things, we know that>She hanged with her friends often during summer break>She also spent time with YuuSo for a good chunk of the summer break we know they weren't spending time with each other. You could turn the situation around and wonder if he wasn't off because Yami contacted him after not contacting him for a long period, maybe to confirm if he knew Hikari. This also doesn't bring many answers too because he could still be chasing her or wondering why this even became a topic and what that had to say about Hikari, and Yami avoided answering this question.
Btw, Aya hates the "Matsushita" surname, basically confirming it's her stepdad's, as suspected.
>>272584152I never realized she's called "Ayami"why does everyone say Yami?
>>272584189Because Aya is too 2 months ago.
>mangadex thread is full of obviously /here/ faggots chimping>all of them are yamifagsyou guys don't even bother pretending, huh?
>>272584229Oh, she calls herself Yami, literally Gloomy,
>>272584189Herself and Yuu call her Yami, to Hikari she's Aya-chan.
>>272584189Friends call her "Aya-chan". Bullies called her "Yami" in her low period. She told Yuu it was "Yami" when they met, and it stuck. We call her Yami because it contrasts nicely with Hikari.
One thing I'm coping about is how Maruto said the manga and novel storylines are different and that one of them is just "Yami's fantasy". I really hope Yamibros won't get fucked over by having her winning be all a dream.
>>272584616only 25.5 is Yami's fantasy
>>272584616I think that was just for 25.5, but we'll see next week if 26 re-converges.
>>272584659the fact that they shunted it off into a side chapter makes me think they will
>>272584570I wonder why she was okay with Yuu caling her Yami...
>>272520685I am amazed we got another thread to bump limit
>>272585680he said it not with lust, but with sincerity
>>272585697As long as it's not all shitposts...>>272585741Yami would totally be her porn name.
>>272583486>I'm thinking she might've broken up with him around the start of school in ch.18,Oh, that would definitely make more sense than chapter 11. The feelings are rawer and more turbulent for one another.
>>272584638>only 25.5 is Yami's fantasyShe never tried to leave, turns out in reality they fucked nonstop until their reservation time was up.
whoa what a fresh take it's almost as if...>>272552421
>>272587498I thought the reality was that she gave him one last kiss and left.
>>272520685People said this suddenly takes a turn in later chapters and is shit now, is it still worth reading or is it an dumpster fire? Mangadex forums seem to hate it.
>>272588088It's way more interesting now. OG readers hate it because they weren't expecting a big twist after several chapters/months of harmless fluff. If you're starting now with prior warning, it's fine.The chapters are really short btw, so catching up is pretty fast.
>>272587973Yeah, anon was just joking. I'm surprised it makes no difference to the timeline, since the mood/themes come off pretty different.
>>272588088>Mangadex forums seem to hate it.They just want another fluffy romance.
>>272588088The whole reason why we had so many threads and so many discussions is the twist. The manga was very formulaic and simple before that. And as >>272590073 said, mangadex crowd just wanted their nothingburger cuteslop JustMarryAlreadyxD romcom #75390
>>272590542Now it's RomantivcTriangleSlop #82556. So much better.
>>272590592Try NTR romance manga #365
Try CSI: CF Victims Unit
>>272520685I was half expecting OP to end with yabba dabba doo tbdesu.
>>272528000>>272581969>>272591906https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/yabba%20dabba%20doo/page/1/what is this autism
>tfw we'll be having a thread every day until the next ch arrives
>>272591906
>>272520685She only liked him after he stopped being a virgin and changed his aura kekThis manga is more realistic than I thought
>>272563977Yuu is a pretty common name
>>272592751Do I need to spell it out again? Yuu might be a common name, but there are too many overlaps in both stories to not suspect that Hikari's childhood friend and Yuu who tried to enroll in the same school as his childhood friend (which Hikari happens to attend) might be the same fucking person.
So Yuu sensed Hikari’s behavior had changed and chose to take a step closer to her. This conversation was supposed to be a kind of farewell to Yami, but he blurted out something silly like, 'It’s hard for me to say this because my feelings for you are still lingering.' Yami got angry and slapped him, then, in a moment of desperation, kissed him. Unfortunately for Yuu, Hikari saw the whole scene. I hope that's how it happened.
>>272593350Yuu already moved on from Hikari. For fuck sakes, when two other friends confuse the both of them as a couple, Yuu was completely stone face to the question. At this point he has already moved on to Yami.
>>272593350>here's how hikari can still win
>>272593512>stone faceAnd then they had this heart-to-heart, and he reacts completely differently. Also, check chapter 18
>>272593712He was confessing that he looked up to her and was happy that he got it out of his chest.>Also, check chapter 18Yami broke up with him and he wasn't himself.
>>272593350Yeah, surely he rushed to search for her around the school while she was avoiding him, just to say "ok, bye". >なんで、なんで……戻ってきちゃうのさ。>どうして、あたしを見つけちゃうのさ、夕……
>>272593843I don't get why you're quoting this from Ayami's POV. It doesn't even imply it was or wasn't an accident.
>>272592024>>272592212I didn't need this information in my life.
>>272593885Because it says>you KEEP coming back to me>you KEEP finding me
>>272593966Anon...
Well THAT'S a SIGHT for SORE EYES!! AYA-CHAN!! WHA-!??! You are going to KISS YUU??!! And HE’S going to REPEATEDLY STUFF SALTY SEMEN into your SAGGY MEAT-FLAPS until you INFLATE like a WATER BALLOON!?!? B-but that's too dangerous! You might BREAK before HE gets a shot at ROUND TWO!!! And after YUU STRETCHES YOU out PERMANENTLY with his GIGA COCK, he’s going to INSEMINATE YOU with his BROOD?!?!? ALL while HE WHISPERS HIS LOVE into your ear while MINDBREAKING you with his COCK drowning you in PLEASURE like you’re trapped in SEA OF FLOWERS?! TOGETHER you are GOING to POUND TOWN while I WATCH!???! YOU’RE going to show me HOW HE BENDS YOU OVER and PUTS HIS MEATROD in YOUR ASS PUSSY as you STAIN THE FLOOR WITH YOUR CUM!?!?? WOOHOO!! HUUUHHHH?!?! NOOO!!! PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BLOCK MY VIEW DURING THE MONEY SHOT!!! I NEED IT FOR MY GOONING SESSION!?!?!! YOU'RE SAYING that me SEEING YOU fucking HIM, will RUIN my ENTIRE WORLD-VIEW?!? My WHOLE WORLD will SHATTER as I have an IDENTITY CRISIS from seeing such a HORRID and TRAUMATISING thing?!?! And this will cause me to develop a PERSONALITY DISORDER, which will require YEARS of PSYCHIATRIC CARE, which will EVENTUALLY FAIL and DRIVE me INSANE?!?! And then, I will be ADMITTED into an ASYLUM where I will be LOCKED in a SMALL PADDED ROOM, with only a SMALL window to see my BELOVED getting FUCKED THROUGH?!?! What else can I say but YABBA DABBA DOO!!
I'm not either of those anons, but the manga TL might be getting the implied subject of her first line wrong. The TL says "why did I come back", but both lines might be referring to Yuu, as in "why did you come back [to the classroom]? Why did you find me?"
>>272594213It's obviously referring to Yuu, correct.
>>272594213The scanlation has some of these small mistakes but going by how fast they're done I'm not surprised.
>>272594173I shall give a (You} for effort. Never speak of this again.
>>272594213>Aya does a good thing and cover for Hikari>Gets rewarded with Yuu finding herIt's literally faith
Adverbいまさら • (imasara) at this point in time; only now (emphasizing that the action is too late) it's over, hikaribros
>>272594425I will keep hoping until the very end. Feels like the manga and the novel might have different endings. So, which one would be the real deal?
>>272594568I don't think it's a great idea, since an unillustrated consolation win wouldn't be much consolation, even if it's arguably closer to direct from the writer. The manga has a lot more readers, by all indications.
Hikari will try to pressure Aya to give up Yuu while remaining friends with her, or force Yuu to cheat on Aya with her.
>>272583486Is he acting that way in this chapter because he was texting Ayami presumably to get back with her?
>>272595331That's the theory, Hikari notices that something is wrong with Yuu
>>272595331In the novel it read almost like he was subtly/awkwardly prompting Hikari for info on whether anything seemed amiss with her friends (>>272552723). Aya must've revealed their friendship to him while breaking up, and maybe even Hikari's crush on him.
>>272595567Jesus, the manga is a poor adaptation if it misses the mark that much.
>>272520685I know alot of people hate this and if Aya were the basic homewrecking bitch stereotype that just wanted to ruin things for her own enjoyment I would too but that backstory was pretty good it made her and Yuu's relationship feel more real imo. Anyway do you guys think Hikari will get away unnoticed and pretend nothing happened or what?
>>272592031and then it'll be 3 threads a day for 2 days
New thread>>272595929>>272595929>>272595929
>>272595772That would probably give things more time to develop, yeah. The only thing is she's probably frozen on the spot, so I don't know if she'd be fast enough to duck out of sight if Yami suddenly ran for the door.
>>272542466It's just the fucking MTL.
>>272592024>>272592212Funny>>272594173I don't know shit about this manga but appreciate seeing yabbaposting outside the halls Next time put more outlanding wacky cuckold scenarios in
