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I know a lot of people hate this and if Aya were the basic homewrecking bitch stereotype that just wanted to ruin things for her own enjoyment I would too but that backstory was pretty good it made her and Yuu's relationship feel more real imo. Anyway, do you guys think Hikari will get away unnoticed and pretend nothing happened or what? Also why is the manga and the WN so radically different from one another?
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>>272595929
It's just the stereotype where of course the cheerful blonde girl has to be shit on, because such a character makes dark haired bitchy Jap women jealous and everything has to pander to the insecurities of Japanese females. Even in stuff ""for men""
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>>272595929
>Also why is the manga and the WN so radically different from one another?
source?
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>>272595929
>Anyway, do you guys think Hikari will get away unnoticed and pretend nothing happened or what?
That would probably give things more time to develop, yeah. The only thing is she's probably frozen on the spot, so I don't know if she'd be fast enough to duck out of sight if Yami suddenly ran for the door.

>Also why is the manga and the WN so radically different from one another?
They're mostly the same, the novel just has more details that don't always make it into the manga's limited page count.
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>>272595963
Seething bimbo detected
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>>272595963
Women and their simps really do fucking ruin everything
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>>272595963
"Nice guys finish last" isn't just for guys, as it turns out.
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>>272595963
But anon, the black haired girl has the most basic sob story behind her. She must be a well written character.
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>>272596039
Not really true, because men still have NTR shit shoved onto them.

Men aren't allowed to like the more popular, big breasted, feminine girl.

There is nothing "for men", because everything have to be tainted by this fucking woman pandering trash to make sure they don't make women feel jealous
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>>272596154
Go home romcomschizo, you're drunk.
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>>272595929
Miku will avenge Hikari
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The other are gonna get in on this, aren't they?
Haru steals Yuu from Aya-chan as payback.
Then Yuki steals Yuu because Haru still hurt Hikari.
Then Aya-chan resolves her feelings and goes for the killer of solidifying her relationship with Yuu.
All the while Hikari sits in the cuckchair with her hands in her panties.
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>>272595929
You just know Aya saw more action in Yuu's room than Hikari ever will.
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>>272596428
>>272596332
Are you a woman or just a man hating cuck? Hikari is the character that appeals to men
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>>272595929
>Anyway, do you guys think Hikari will get away unnoticed and pretend nothing happened or what?
I hope this is what happens, both Yuu and Aya are in their own little world while Hikari just leaves unable to process what happened between the two of them. I also want to see how Aya and Yuu treat Hikari afterwards and the excuses they give to her, or if they're honest to her from the get-go.
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>>272596457
This nigga thinks he's representative for all men. #Ayamigang
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>>272596478
So you're just a pickme who believes Manga shouldn't appeal to men
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>>272596457
It's out of love, not hate.
Hikari's mixed feelings between sad and aroused seeing her bestfriends fucking her crush is so extremely endearing and cute.
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>>272596457
I love Ayami tho. That sultry, dark-haired look does things to me.
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>>272596533
You have an interesting perspective. Continue...
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>>272596531
I'm not a woman
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>>272596551
You mean like every other boring cold dark haired Jap winner?
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>>272596428
In novel ch.5 it says Hikari first told her friends about Ta-kun during a sleepover at her house (>>272549272), so either Aya wasn't at that party, or she's never visited Yuu's house right next door.
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>>272596678
Or perhaps Yuu was smashing her right next door on that same night...
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>>272596678
You can also assume she never visited his house. The bored housewives rumor mill would make sure the info that Yuu brought another girl home would be going around.
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>>272595929
i love this butt
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>>272596708
I wonder if Yuu visited Aya’s home
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>>272596721
What can you do? Yom draws his gir cute and sexy. Maybe Hikari can win by creating a harem for Yuu out of her delicious friends hehe
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>>272596763
I wonder if he walked Yami gently home
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>>272596763
Even Aya doesn't want to visit Aya's home. At least until the situation there got unfucked.
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>>272596763
I doubt he visited her actual house but I wouldn't be surprised if she invited him to that place where they did the sleepover in ch. 15.
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>>272597286
Just bring her to the stepdad's fuck palace housing some rando woman she probably never interacted with before. What could go wrong?
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>>272597314
It is her deceased dad's house though.
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>>272596266
Miku hasn't done anything since that. What's more the author is dead until further notice.
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>>272597286
I sort of want to know if he met Aya's mom. See how far their relationship went before she broke up with him
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>>272597286
So Aya is cucking Hikari in the same way her mom was cucked. I wonder who was the mistress? Maybe it turns out to be Yuu's mom or something.
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>>272597286
>>272597464
>This used to be the place my dad used to pound his mistress
>Now I use it to get pounded by your childhood friend
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>>272597464
>So Aya is cucking Hikari
No, we've been over this a hundred times already.
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>>272597503
And you behaved like a pigeon playing chess every time.
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>>272595929
I really do hope the author goes with Hikari leaving before the other two take notice of her.
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>>272597286
>>272597314
Her family situation's so outlandish, and the short format so limited, that I can only imagine it resolving itself offscreen. Guess we'll see next week though.
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>>272597464
I briefly contemplated Hikari's sister who went to college, but that seemed to much like a bad soap.
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>>272597762
She could also use Yuu as a reason to not be at home for most of the day, honestly, the step-father needs to fuck up once and get caught to be kicked out.
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>>272597762
Yeah, I wish it was a normal format instead of these short biweekly chapters. There's only so much you can tell with those.
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>>272597809
Her surname already changed so it's likely it already happened.
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>>272597839
By the present, of course. In the past, not yet.
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>>272595929
There's honestly nothing to hate here. Aya didn't do anything wrong. In life, you have to pursue what you want seriously. That's how it is.
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>>272595929
>Also why is the manga and the WN so radically different from one another?
Are they different?
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At least he keeps drawing
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>>272595929
>arghhh I feel so depressed and empty let me just rape this teen I have just met on the street to feel better
women moment
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>>272598682
There's only 1 or 2 years of difference, also it was consensual after they got out of the hotel
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>>272598682
And if she hadn’t corrupted him, she wouldn’t have been saved.
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>>272598793
exactly
the women moment is when she fell in love with the guy whose life she was supposed to destroy
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>>272598793
>>272598850
>Evil Bitch status: fixed
And my penis couldn't be happier
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>>272595963
It's fun seeing shit tasted retards like you seethe lol.
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>>272598682
Shes just an angsty teen. I'm sure you've made plenty of dumb mistakes as a teen hence why you're here.
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>>272597286
She's still crashing at various friends' places the second time she meets yuu. So she only gets the condo at some point after that. Hence why they went to a love hotel instead of the condo
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>>272599360
Is that supposed to contradict what I said? I meant her inviting him to that place after they became a couple.
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>>272599359
You're right. Seeing how people cannot get why people seethe because of Yami, it's not surprising they're friendless and shitposting here.
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>>272599419
My point is that there could be a significant gap in time wherein they broke up before she moves in. Getting to use the condo indicates some resolution of her home situation, and if she'd been able to live in an empty spare apartment from the beginning she wouldn't have been couch surfing
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>>272599505
Oh and I might add that she moved in recently enough to the fireworks display that the condo was still stocked with wine that she didn't know was there. So like the mistress had just left and in somewhat of a hurry
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>>272599505
The current theory is they broke up after ch.11, so not so long ago. The theory might turn out to be wrong but for now it makes sense.
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As you (should) know, the first girl introduced is the winner. But, in love triangles the most attractive girl is also the winner. Since that’s Hikari in both cases here it’s pretty obvious who is the lead girl and who is the foil.
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>>272600585
> As you (should) know, the first girl introduced is the winner. But, in love triangles the most attractive girl is also the winner.
So it's 1:1 Hikari vs Yami, huh.
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>>272600626
>t. I like boys
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>>272600646
Hikari is cute, sure, but she won't ruin my life so that's a minus on her looks
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>>272595929
The plot hasn't advanced in weeks, what do you faggots even talk about in these threads?
Reminds me of that fag who kept spamming the lesbian Gundam show even after it was long over.
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>>272595929
>>272596332
Why do all these bitches have unusually big foreheads?
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>>272600675
If you really think Yami is objectively more attractive than Hikari you’re at least gay-curious. Mangaka is trying to give her a sexy pheromone vibe but it’s a visual media so one can’t help but to notice she’s less attractive than Hikari. I believe this is intentional or else Yami would at least have an equal breast size. Hikari is clearly intended to be "the more desirable" one. The absolute tyranny of lookism is here, I’m sorry.
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>>272600973
>If you really think Yami is objectively
You make no sense and you're absolutely dumb if you don't realize why.
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>>272598682
Too realistic, shut it down.
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>>272600680
>Reminds me of that fag who kept spamming the lesbian Gundam show even after it was long over.
There was a 3 month hiatus between each part and somehow, they managed to keep their general going /u/faggotry was a mistake.
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It would have been fine to dwarf the trope of the indecisive girl, hell to even have someone who goes all the way in instead of making her big step to be about calling someone for the first basis, infact that's a good premise that I'd like to see again.....
but the author framed the story in a way with the clear intent of antagonizing the reader for a twist that poses Yami as an antagonist.

The same story, plot point, character, etc...has a wildly different impact depending on how is delivered, kinda like a joke, you can't ignore that, what did the author want from us? To root for Hikari? Yami?
I find his ways dishonest, he is the god of the story as the author.
This is what makes particularly dumb when you decide in a tv series that the character you have been selling to the audience for 20 episodes now is suddenly another person.
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Having a one-a-day thread on this is seriously impacting anons' mental health.
Some of them are turning totally deranged (at best).
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>>272596721
That's only her daydream, she has hank hill ass
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Look at this body language.
It's fucking over.
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>>272595929
Will Maruto ever write an interesting male lead before he dies?
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On a scale of lower rating to kill themselves how would dexfags react to a romantic arc where Yuu is the catalyst for Ayami's name change including heroically rescuing her from stepdad rape attempt?
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>>272598682
>arghhh I feel so euphoric and fulfilled I'm cumming from this teen ejaculating inside me
becoming a woman moment
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>>272602567
i told you thread quality will decrease if we're having a thread with no new content every single day
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>>272602442
>you decide in a tv series that the character you have been selling to the audience for 20 episodes now is suddenly another person.
that can work
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>>272602660
who was phone?
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>>272603510
He's probably just playing a game since he's only using one hand or scrolling
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>>272600750
They've been doing a lot of thinking lately
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>>272602660
It’s over
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>>272596218
He's right
Not like there's a big boob bimbo to cheer on in this one though
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>>272595929
Those are some massive feet. Why is the girl in front the only one with normal sized feet?
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would honestly be inspiring to see her give up on her childhood bum and love someone else
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>>272596266
everything really went to complete shit after pocky
amazing
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>>272596332
#2 is going to suck Yuu dry
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>>272602660
Yamibros, it’s over
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>>272602567
I say we need to keep going and see just how far we can get! This series has exceptional schizo producing potential
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Yom needs to make more art too
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>>272602737
You mean again? He's done that twice already at least.
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>>272605923
Oda collab.
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>>272605598
>cries
>it works
every time
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>>272606675
Hikari is probably gonna cry too. You think it'll work?
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>>272595929
2nd from left is an absolute succubus and I want her to ruin my life
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uh oh
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>>272607307
>>272607363
Yuka the Semen Extractor
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>>272595929
>Actually all 4 love him
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>>272607872
on chapter 42, Yami will find Yuu and Yuki kissing, and there the POV will change to Yuki's
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>>272607363
I want Yuka to test my poison.
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>>272607872
Wait til they find out one of the other two was a childhood friend first and the other is secretly his fiancee.
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>>272602567
>>272603398
>>272605645
The only schizos I see are ones we already had in the two-weeks-apart threads, for the most part.
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>>272609941
Okay
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>>272595929
So did Yami broke up with Yuu during chapter 18
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>>272610897
That's a good one, She realized Ta-kun was Yuu in ch11 and they broke up in ch18.
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>>272607363
By the way, this girls' name is Yuki (ユキ), as seen above her head in >>272596332, and elsewhere. The TL's usage of "Yuka" is a mistake from her using "tte yu~ka~" playfully twice in her sentence, where the "iu" sound comes from 言う (to say):

>ひかりんの親友ってゆ~か、毒見役ってゆ~か~
>Hikarin no shinyu-tte yu~ka, dokumiyaku-tte yu~ka~
>Hikarin's best friend, or should I say, poison tester?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E3%81%8B

>tfw a website force-feeds you webp
I hate this shit so much it's unreal. On Note, it looks like the workaround is right-click -> save link.
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>>272611103
It would also make sense in the WN of chapter 18 is different.
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>>272611792
How so? It seems the same.
The manga does skip the slightly-off Yuu but it's still the same.
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>>272611937
Yuu talking about Hikari's school life for one since he isn't all that interested
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>>272611445
Naruhodo.
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>>272610897
>>272611103
How do you guys even come up with these theories?
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>>272613252
Well, Ayami and Yuu broke up some unknown time.
On ch11, we learn that Aya-chan doesn't yet know Hikari's crush is Yuu, she learns that this "Ta-kun" is actually called Yuu.
On ch18, Yuu is off, on the WN he seems distracted and not very responsive, a bit fidgety.
It is not too far off to say Yami realized Yuu was Hikari's crush and decided to dump him.
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>>272613252
I thought the breakup was earlier until I read the novel version of 18 and rechecked the manga version for comparison. In both, Hikari said Ta-kun had never acted weird like that during or before summer. So something new disturbed him around ch.18, whether it was a breakup, or finding out Aya and Hikari were friends, or finding out Hikari likes him.
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>>272613572
That would imply she was still dating him during chapter 11 and 17.
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>>272613572
>We might be able to see the final days of them being a couple in the flashback
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>>272613924
Or she was avoiding him for months before making the breakup official.
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>>272614711
That’s kind of a dick move if true. You loved her.
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>>272614711
or wasn't fully avoiding him but was distant and uncomfortable over it
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So here Aya is lying about her father right?
Could it be, she's talking about her current stepfather having an affair but lying about her current family situation.
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>>272614958
what exactly do you think she's lying about?
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>>272614958
Didn’t her mother divorce her step-father
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>>272614958
>>272596266
>>272595929
Wait, so the Ganbare Douki-chan author doesn't write this, only draws it? Did he specifically go looking for another cuckquean series to do the art for? It seems right up his alley.
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>>272615095
it's not explicitly stated but she no longer has the surname so almost certainly
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>>272615052
well idk how does it read in japanese, but she's refering to her dad having an affair, but didn't this happen? her father died and the step-dad is the rich one. So this would mean the sleepover after the family drama is over then ?
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>>272615184
Yeah, her step-father tried to rape her. Considering he lacked self-control, it wouldn’t be far-fetched that the mom find out about it soon enough
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>>272615184
she calls them both father in the japanese, 'new father' when she needs to make a distinction. the step-dad was the one having the affair since he was the one with money
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>>272615349
okay so it's not clear yet if she talked to Hikari about what happened to her family.
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>>272615119
Yom and Maruto collaborated before for Miru Tights. Maruto wrote White Album 2, which has a similar FFM love triangle (and several side girls who can cuck the #2 girl silly).
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>>272615479
Why would she? She's not that close to any of her friends and she only told Yuu because she was being emotional after failing to have sex.
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Hikari giving Ta-kun alcohol, then sneaking into his bed and fucking him while he's drunk
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>>272616286
well to give a reason for Yami to give up on Yuu, if Hikari was the one helping her with family stuff Yami would feel really guilty about fucking and sucking and getting inseminated raw by her best friend's crush.
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>>272605923
yay!
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>>272616457
Doesn't make sense since Hikari seems blind to Yuu's life outside of her.
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>>272616404
assertive girls should be rewarded
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>>272616404
I can see it happening.
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>>272614431
God, I hope so, I wonder if Ayami was breaking down on the inside.
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>>272616457
From a drama-fuel standpoint, that would make sense for increasing the importance of Hikari's friendship to Aya. But it would also mean Hikari has already confronted the concept of other people having their own life dramas, which would undermine the point of the twist (as some anons paint it). Aya herself said Hikari's appeal was being a cinnamon roll somewhat detached from reality, which wouldn't square with her being Aya's support in her heavy family issues.
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Threadly reminder that BSS is still NTR. Unless you're a gookshit slurper
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>>272619037
imo more importantly it just wouldn't mesh with how she gives a big reaction to aya saying the apartment was her stepdad's fuck pad
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>>272619093
>Threadly reminder that BSS is still NTR.
Only for people like Hikari.
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>>272619236
It is literally everywhere you faggot. It's sold together under the same broad category in stores.
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>>272619093
It's only BSS from her perspective because she didn't know they were already a couple before she ever fell for the guy.
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>>272619297
It's NTR because the FMC is planning to steal her CF back
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>>272596332
i think the fact that hikari is pushing ayami hints that during ayami's section hikari is the one who reaches out to her despite her being a moody bitch and forces her to have friends for once. this would mirror yuu reaching out to her as a fellow human rather than just a piece of ass
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>>272619735
Symbolism aside, that's the direction that seems most plausible to me too.
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>>272619735
>Aya gets a boyfriend who's understanding and caring
>Aya also gets a best friend who accepts her
I hope we get a chapter of her spiraling once she realizes what she did.
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>>272614958
no, here "father" is meant to be ironic. the stepfather owns the condo, ayami is just calling him father here both to make the statement acceptable to her friends as well as insult him in abstentia
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>>272615052
to hikaru & co? "my actual father didn't die and my mother didn't marry another guy who tried to fuck me so i ran away for awhile"
for starters
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>>272615184
it's not hard to figure out
>dad dies
>mother remarries
>stepfather tries to fuck ayami
>ayami says no
>mother accuses her of seducing him
>ayami runs away from home
this is a pretty common stereotype in western media, btw
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>>272615479
ayami wouldn't tell them anything that she thought might jeopardize her fresh start
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>>272595929
Do I need to watch White Album 1 before watching White Album 2?
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>>272620149
No, it's better not to. They're basically separate stories. The only connection is WA2 is set 10 years later, and the new characters like some of the old characters' songs.
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(And I say "better not to" because WA1 is much longer and slower, with some pretty bad arcs thrown in. It will absolutely filter a fraction of people who try to go through it first, and it's not really a prereq for WA2 anyway.)
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>>272595929
When are we getting the nice boat ending?
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>>272620228
Thanks friend. First episode was great and is making me nostalgic for 2010s already
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>>272595963
Imagine liking Hikari over Aya. I can't even fathom such basic taste
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>>272620852
Hikari waited for Yuu all this time
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>>272595966
They're not, he's baiting.

There's details in the WN that aren't in the manga just the same as any "adaptation" , but the content, themes and points are all the same.

The differences are stuff like Hikari musing about Yuu getting confessed to in the old days and how people used to ask her to help them with their confession which annoyed her etc.

The only time the plot changed was in the .5 chapter where Aya kissing Yu on the cheek and just leaving the morning after was replaced with her waking Yuu up with another kiss, which led into more sex. And honestly, that's just Yom having more fun with the idea.
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>>272595929
>cuckshit
fuck off
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>>272620805
I know that feel. I still remember finishing ep 1 and muttering "ohh man, I am going to enjoy this show." Famous last words ;_;
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Looking back, I wonder if Aya was bringing up her own experience to help Hikari
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>>272620852
Stop being a contrarian faggot. Sometimes basic things are basic because their obvious superiority is clear to everyone. Hikari is obviously a wholesome cheerful girl from a decent family who is clever, good natured, and physically healthy and attractive. The fact that she doesn't have generic teen issues doesn't make her worse.
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>>272621097
Douki was the worst girl in her series, and Hikari is the worst girl in hers.
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>>272621097
Hikari is a self-centered girl who constantly shat on her CF for being meek and looking up at her.
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>272595963
I was wondering when you would show up Romcomschizo
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>>272621120
Worse than Haru? (The novels say she's a sporty girl on the track team, incidentally.)
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>manga becomes a masterpiece
>people hate it
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>>272621689
The love interest got stolen away from the FMC, kind of hard to like NTR content
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>>272619874
that's going to be the culmination of the ayami section and my bet is we'll get a yuu-narrated section after that
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>>272619874
>>272621940
Why would she spiral?
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>>272621689
Your requirements for something to be a masterpiece are very low.
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>>272622010
Cause, in this hypothetical, she gets a good guy as a boyfriend and makes friends with a nice girl in Hikari, and given what we see in the first "chapter," her life seems to be back on track. Back in school, back home and able to joke about her shitty home situation, etc. So she'd probably be thinking things were looking up and that shitty period of her life was over.

But then she discovers the dude her friend was crushing on was her boyfriend. Not only that, but it'd remind her of her shitty personality when they first met, intentionally trying to fuck up his "pure" romance for revenge for how bad her life was. How would she explain that? Even worse, that aside, now she's stuck with no good answer to Hikari's feelings for Yuu except maybe breaking things off with Yuu, who is either way clearly a good influence on her and she cares about significantly, and pretend nothing happened in the vain hope nothing will come out and cause a bunch of drama.
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>>272622329
This just means she has brain worms and will have them for the rest of her life. There's no good answer but doing what she did behind Hikari's back is among the worst possible solutions.
Part of me wants Hikari to actually go full manipulative here, just go away without them noticing to see for how long her "friends" will keep hiding it.
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>>272622329
>and pretend nothing happened in the vain hope nothing will come out and cause a bunch of drama.
I'm really hyping myself up for this flashback arc, but I really do wish we get to see Aya's perspective of the main story and not just what happened a year ago. I also want to see the start of the Aya's and Yuu's argument and what cause her to slap him and kiss him in such a short time.
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>>272622669
>oh yuu is so kind
>oh hikari is so kind
>mom was actually nice and just misunderstood me
>oh no hikari likes yuu
>sad
>AAAIIIIEEEE MY GENITALS ARE TAKING OVER
There's your events
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>no feet in the series
WASTE
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>>272622010
Because she destroyed the pure, would-be-mutual love between the two people who saved her at her lowest point. An aimless, spiteful wish to spread misery is coming back to haunt her long after she became a better person thanks to the people she tried to hurt, and was now GOING TO hurt, with no (good) way to take it back. And yet, she's still in love with Yuu, even though she knows it's all wrong and he deserves better.

tl;dr it's kinda like Gabi from Shingeki no Kyojin, if you read that. Actions she took when she was a racist little shit came back to destroy the bonds she made with the people who showed her undeserved kindness.
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>>272595929
Is this by the pantyhose guy?
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>>272622669
>Yami slowly finds out her boyfriend is her BFF's childhood friend and crush.
>Breaks up with him somewhere along chapters 1-21.
>Doesn't tell Yuu the reason behind it
>That's why Yuu immediately goes to her when he spots her at Hikari's school
>He catches up to her and reaffirms his feelings for her
>She tries to push him away but can't and gets lost in her own passion for him
There, that's what (most likely) happened
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>>272595929
People just speedread the damn thing. The FMC is the textbook definition of unreliable narrator. We've never seen what the dude is actually thinking/feeling or even his past self when they were separated in highschool. Just like the readers, the FMC as well were assuming the crush was just waiting to be picked up in his corner for all these years till FMC realized her feelings after not seeing him as a man for years. That line of reasoning is insane for multiple reasons. The guy was crushing hard on the FMC as children and in middle school and she rebuked him at every turn. The fuck was he supposed to do after that?
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>>272623219
We've had this argument before. If you can show us one account of someone guessing the twist before it happened, in an unedited comment from the source of your choice you win the argument that this was obvious by default. Good luck trying.
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>>272623309
My guy, I'm not talking about the twist, I'm talking about the guy who had a crush on the FMC as a child and middle schooler, only to realize she WILL never look at him as a romantic option. Why the fuck would he be holding the torch for her after all those years?
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>>272623373
Because that is a popular trope? It might even be more popular than subverting it. Remember that you're looking at the story after knowing how things went.
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>>272623456
>Because that is a popular trope?
Still doesn't change the fact that the guy got his feelings trampled on for years because the FMC never thought of him as a man.
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>>272623126
he does the art, yeah
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>>272623537
And you're saying this as if that is a guarantee that he will move on. Even outside of fiction you got people with their oneitis lasting for years while the whole thing looks hopeless. Realism isn't a card you can play here, both outcomes are realistic.
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>>272623595
How can he have oneitis if he had a GF?
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>>272623610
And you know this after knowing the twist.
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>>272623632
Even before the twist, he wasn't all that interested in her. The perfect example would be the cafe scene, where he and the FMC got confuse as a couple and he was unbothered by such a comment and acted normally, whereas the FMC acted like the typical romcom protag.
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>>272623690
Again, you're saying this after knowing what happened. Feel free to go back to any prior discussion and point out someone with the level of foresight you're implying.
Look, even the fucking artist was caught by surprise when he received the draft. While the hints existed in hindsight, don't pretend the foreshadowing was good.
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>>272623780
>gain, you're saying this after knowing what happened
I'm saying that because its a standard trope in romcoms to have the guy be a blushing idiot whenever his attempts to be with his crush is outed, he literally didn't give a fuck.
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>>272623952
I get it anon. You're very smart for figuring it out after the information was out in the open. Congratulations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy
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>>272623988
Why do you want him to be such a simp and cuck for the FMC?
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>>272621082
Would be pretty funny.
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>>272598215
>Aya didn't do anything wrong.
Other than steal a man from one of her friends.
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>>272598682
This is some straight up NTR/corruption dialogue and situation. No wonder the poor guy cheated on Hikari with her.
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>>272625065
She got together with the man before the said friend even got interested in him.
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>>272625138
She should have at least told her about it and honor the sisterhood.
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Not NTR btw.
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>>272625232
It is ntr
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I have not read a single page from this, but just from scrolling this thread, the black haired short girl makes my dick the hardest. Good on her for cucking the other girls.
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>>272620899
Imo, the manga cuts off some important tid bits that are essential in to the story. The first chapter encapsulates this.
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>yami: long sleeves
>seki: long sleves
>hikari: rolls her sleeves up
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>>272595929
After reading the entirety of the manga, I think the author rushed the story a bit. Either that, or the manga needs more pages because it’s extremely light
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>>272625351
Based.

>>272626317
Imagine getting one short chapter every 2 weeks (except for a period around the twist where it was one a week). Part 1 lasted something like 7.5 months from last Christmas to mid-August.
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>>272626402
>Imagine getting one short chapter every 2 weeks (except for a period around the twist where it was one a week).
Yeah, with that in mind, I can sort of understand the hate it gets since in their mind, the entire story was fluff. But at the same time, I think the chapters being short really crippled the story telling since at worse, you only have three pages to tell an entire chapter, and at best, eight pages.
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>>272626450
I feel like the part 1 chapters were okay with a small pagecount, since things were peaceful on the surface and nobody suspected a thing, but the IRL bait period became dangerously long. Part 2 is feeling the pinch more because the content's gotten more serious and the art is decompressing to convey the mood, but it's dripping out at like ~10 pages every two weeks when people are now itching to see what happens next. I guess faster releases would've helped in both cases, but that's constrained by what the artist can handle in their probably-unpaid time.
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>>272626812
Although if Maruto's paying, I hope he's paying Yom well to paint a big target on himself like this, haha.
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>>272626812
>I feel like the part 1 chapters were okay with a small pagecount, since things were peaceful on the surface and nobody suspected a thing,
Nah, I think a bigger page count would have helped it, especially to foreshadow the twist a bit more, so it doesn't look like it came out of left field.

>but the IRL bait period became dangerously long.
Yeah, looking back at it, that definitely hurt the series a bit since people really thought they were getting another romcom.

>Part 2 is feeling the pinch more because the content's gotten more serious and the art is decompressing to convey the mood, but it's dripping out at like ~10 pages every two weeks when people are now itching to see what happens next.
I wonder if the story would have been better if the WN was finished before making the manga.
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>>272613572
He was texting Ayami in this very moment wasnt he?
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Why do you keep necro bumping this cuck manga so much though?
There doesn’t need to be a general at any given time, I know NTR is your fetish but it’s getting weird.
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>>272626317
It's the manga that needs more pages.
Just read the first WN chapter and the first manga chapter.
There's like 4 paragraphs of the WN in the manga, and the WN is 50 paragraphs long
And, for example, chapter 1 and chapter 18 are supposed to be very similar, but if you read the manga version, they aren't similar at all.
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>>272627147
Second chapter is the worse since there's more to that chapter then just meeting at the station.
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>>272627234
I haven't gotten there yet, pls no spoil
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>>272622884
Their love was never mutual at the same time.
Yami is going to win, has already won, and the rest of this will be a wonderful compounding of just how bad Hikari lost.
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>>272622482
Hikari fell in love with her best friend’s boyfriend behind her back. She’s the thieving hussy here.
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>>272626975
>I wonder if the story would have been better if the WN was finished before making the manga.
Nah, someone at MD had that idea too, but it would totally ruin the element of surprise. Unless you mean having it all written in advance but holding back the release, but that might be what they're already doing, for all we know.
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>>272627441
It depends if Hikari falling for Yuu was just a matter of time for her to reach that age where her hormones kicked in, or if it was triggered by Yami changing Yuu. Would Yuu's patience have been rewarded if he had just held out a little longer? Would Hikari still have fallen for him if he was still kinda beta around her?
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>>272627244
Anon, they get on the train, and she starts thinking that other people are thinking them as couple, she starts glazing the guy for being taller than her and most of all, his complete disinterest in Hikari since he's on his phone the entire time. Probably texting Aya
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>>272627790
He says he wanted to get his login bonus from a mobile game, haha.
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>>272627790
The poor girl…
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>>272623456
Can you stop looking at medias through the lens of tropes. The story is all about a CF falling in love with her male friend too late, that's in the title.
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>>272595963
Show me these "dark haired bitchy Jap women" that are in the room with us.
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>>272627790
It didn't occur to me when I read that extra scene the other day, but he really doesn't pay her much attention anymore, huh? Grim.
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Ayagang, as much as I hate to admit it, it’s time to face the truth. Just look at those two, they’re literally made for each other.
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The next 3 or so chapters are gonna be the most important ones to keep my interest going. If it's handled poorly and the drama isn't developing in an interesting way, i'm probably done with this one.
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>>272627465
>behind her back
by declaring it every little change she could?
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>>272629883
chance*
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>>272629496
Me, I'm not too worried about the romantic developments underperforming with the roadmap we've got. My only concern is how they plan to resolve Aya's family issues on the side without feeling either too handwavy or too big of a detour. Between the two I'd prefer erring on the handwavy side.
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>>272629348
I mean she straight up says whenever she talks about what's going on in her day to day life he doesn't pay attention. At this point I feel a little bad
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>>272629366
Now this was a chapter that worked a lot better in manga form. Maybe it was the MTL quality, but it was harder to pick up from the novel that bickering with him was cheering her up in spite of herself.
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>>272595929
Why did you copy my exact text from the previous thread?
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God I wish Yami straddled me and raped my mouth in my sleep.
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>>272632012
This but Seki
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>>272632240
What did you like about her?
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>>272632308
dressed in jirai-kei fashion
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>>272596218
you can have your vendetta against him retard but he is still right
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>>272620852
Yuka is clearly better than both
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>>272623152
I don't think that's a believable motive. Either ayami loves yuu in which case she's willing to sacrifice friends and possibly the rest of her high school career to be with him, or she's willing to sacrifice him to keep up her friendships. The problem with the second is that it doesn't sound like she actually loves him at all. It makes more sense that they break for for a reason independent of Hikari. After all, they got together for reason independent of Hikari, too
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>>272629366
Oh her rainy season is about start for sure
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>>272633451
Of course she loves ME
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>>272633451
>I don't think that's a believable motive. Either ayami loves yuu in which case she's willing to sacrifice friends and possibly the rest of her high school career to be with him, or she's willing to sacrifice him to keep up her friendships. The problem with the second is that it doesn't sound like she actually loves him at all.
The motive is that Yuu's first choice was Hikari before Yami seduced him in a moment of weakness, and if she hadn't interfered, he'd be getting his CF waifu right about now. She thinks he would've been / will be happier with Hikari.

>After all, they got together for reason independent of Hikari, too
Uhhh. They got together because he was down in the dumps from failing to follow Hikari to her next school.
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>>272622669
>Yami-senpai, i want a threesome with Hikari.
>pic happens
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>>272629366
>>272633956
I already picture it, flashback ends and we get this classic kino scene with Hikari in the rain, laughing like crazy at how naive she was.
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>>272635122
i don't think this series is going the edgy mindbreak route, she'll probably just cry a little
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>>272605923
YABBA DABBA DOO
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>>272636076
I mean, the combination of rain and sadness could make for a beautiful scene.
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>>272629348
>>272630797
Hikari can still steal him back
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>>272638028
Only if Yami literally fold over and actively pushed Yuu away.
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>>272632012
Nothing Hikari could do that would ever top this, it's over.
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>>272629348
>hikari noticed him because yami fixed him!
>in reality it was just yuu not paying attention to her anymore that drove hikari nuts
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>>272638154
So Hikari just needs to manipulate Yami for her own goals.
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>>272636076
If there's already one jolting tone shift why not have another?
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>>272638229
That's why it had to be decanonized
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>>272639153
Because it's OOC.
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>>272639249
But it'd be very in-character for Yami to accept that she can love Yuu and commit to her relationship only to find his peanits balls deep in Yuki's throat.
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>manga's chapter 2 is 3 pages, covers less than 20% of novel's chapter 2
wtf are they doing with the manga, though?
There's almost nothing on it.
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>>272639587
I guess they started small for the first couple of chapters.
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>>272639587
Manga chapter 1 is worse. It removes the content where yuu lies to Hikari about his school life
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>>272639587
Could be they were trying to see if anyone gave a fuck about the manga, or Maruto really wants to make sure both are read/bought to see the whole picture
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>>272640373
What are you talking about?
The only thing he maybe, possibly, lies about is that little comment about never using the "I already have someone I like" rejection.
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>>272640473
That should be a huge clue that yuu isn’t afraid to lie
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>>272640976
It's definitely not a clue, it's just banter that foreshadows.
Do you think the "Seven Villainesses" anime recommendation is also a sign of something to come?
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>>272640373
>It removes the content where yuu lies to Hikari about his school life
Can you quote translate it?
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>>272641039
yu fucked seven of her friends confirmed
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>>272641039
It hints at his patrician taste for evil women.
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>>272639587
You think they will add more pages to those early chapters?
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>>272605383
>>272633024
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>>272629348
Really puts in perspective that Hikari lost before the war even started.
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>>272634024
>She thinks he would've been / will be happier with Hikari.
Bro, does she have low-self esteem.
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>>272643287
you think?
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>>272643603
You would think a year dating him would give her a bit a confidence
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>>272643865
She does seem pretty self-confident in the current time (like Yuu)
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>>272644467
They fix each other, now they will have to break each other
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>>272643865
>>272644467
Probably relapsing because her past is catching up with her.
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>>272645748
>>272645760
where do you retards pull these shitty ideas from
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>>272646046
I'm assuming the relationship was toxic but very passionate
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>>272646046
Adult Swim gave me a fetish for self-loathing women voiced by Kari Wahlgren.
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>>272646046
I'm just brainstorming, to see what happens next, nothing wrong with that.
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>>272646046
It's way easier to mess up someone else's life than it is to fix your own
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>>272643603
Yuu can fix her
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>>272641039
Hikari confirmed for multiple personality disorder
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>>272595929
Aya did nothing wrong. Yuu was a free man at the time, he had every right to pick a different girl than hikari.
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>>272595929
>ayami is about to put hikari in a choke
lol
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>>272651016
DELET THIS
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>>272651139
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Why do people keep saying that Hikari will break her friendship with Aya? She doesn't seem the type of person to do that.
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>>272651340
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>>272652580
People are saying she should, not that she will.
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>>272652948
But like why?
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>>272596266
is this garbage still going on ?
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>>272652957
Friends are allowed to have their own secrets and privacy but what Aya consciously hid also concerned Hikari. It's a matter of trust.
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>>272652957
Broke the sisterhood code and stole her friend’s crush away from her.
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>>272653005
>>272653022
What the hell was Aya suppose to say? "I'm dating your CF? "
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>>272653037
The moment she realized it? Yes. Doing it behind her back is slimy as fuck.
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Should I read this? What makes it stand out?
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>>272653065
Does Aya not deserve some privacy in her love life?
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>>272653258
>Should I read this?
Yes, it’s shaping up to be the 2020’s romcom classic
>What makes it stand out?
FMC’s best friend corrupted and stole the FMC’s CF away from her.
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>>272653338
Ok, you cannot read or is arguing in bad faith. I concede and you're a retard.
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>>272653344
Semi-unwittingly, to be fair.
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>>272653403
>Semi-unwittingly
Nothing was unwittingly. She wanted to watch the world burn, just because she fell in love doesn't change the fact that she corrupted him.
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>>272653608
She didn't know Hikari at the time, and didn't find out Hikari was the CF till way later, plus Hikari wasn't even interested back then. That's the unwitting half.
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>>272652957
'cause she was the pov character so they feel ntr'd alongside her
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>>272654026
It’s not NTR.
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>>272654079
Keep believing that.
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>>272654202
Hikari was not in a relationship with Yuu.
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>>272654449
>>272619093
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>>272654514
Simply not true!
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>>272654449
They shared their first indirect kiss together.
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how in the ever loving fuck this short twitter manga already managed continuous threads
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>>272654605
All you need is one bored schizo.
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>>272654597
Still not ntr.
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>>272654597
Aya was telling her what kissing Yuu tastes like lmao
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>>272654079
technically no, i'm talking about the feeling
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>>272654798
Yeah, it's directly stated in the WN when it switches to her POV during the festival kiss
>ほら、やっぱそうだよ。
>キスなんて、唾の味しかしない。

>……こいつの、夕の味しかしない
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>>272654908
>She was thinking of Yuu during chapter 5
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>>272655037
Both times she tries to give advice to Hikari, most likely >>272621082
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>>272654597
>You know realize Yuu was dating Aya during this time and Hikari was trying to NTR her
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>>272656001
If she wanted an indirect kiss with Yuu so much, she could've just asked Ayami!
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>>272656080
Kek, based.
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>>272656080
God, those sleeves are so hot.
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>>272656133
yami's hands are a major charm point
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>>272653065
Aya was trying to get the CF's back together without further wrecking things between the two (yeah, that didn't work out). She could see from Hikari's swooning that Yuu hadn't revealed he was taken, so breaking up and driving him back toward Hikari should let them find happiness together. On the other hand, if she told Hikari the whole truth, it would shatter Hikari's world and her trust in Ta-kun, cementing the consequences of the one mistake Aya wished she could take back.

But the upshot is still that Aya is deceiving Hikari for damage-control, and trying to sell her used goods. And Yuu is already half-complicit for not mentioning his girlfriend's existence this whole time. It would be valid if Hikari feels upset and betrayed by the two on this basis, even after learning the full circumstances.
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>>272656503
Yuu is under no obligations to discuss his relationships with Hikari, this is something that even actual siblings don't even discuss that often, there's zero reasons she needs to know. Yami broke up with him before figuring out Hikari's situation, but if she still has feelings for him, there's no reason for her to "hand him over" just because he's Hikari's CF. Each person's happiness is their own responsibility.
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>>272656638
>there's no reason for her to "hand him over" just because he's Hikari's CF
Hikari put claims on him first since they're childhood friends, Yami had no claim to him whatsoever.
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>>272656770
Hikari had no romantic feelings for him at the time when he started dating Yami, she literally said she would've rejected him if he were to confess back then. Why would Yami need any kind of claim?
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>>272656770
He's still her childhood friend, while dating Aya :3c
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I just want this to be the ending where Yami gets what's coming to her and she's all alone with Yuu.
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>>272656886
>where Yami gets what's coming to her and she's all alone with Yuu.
Sounds familiar...
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>>272656503
The moment she thought she could just sweep things under the rug and pretend nothing happened she became a dogshit friend. Did she really think she could remain friends with Hikari and never meet Yuu again if they started going out? The problem with these actions is that there are no guarantees she won't keep pulling stunts like these later, and with friends who act like this you don't need enemies.

As for Yuu, hiding this from his end didn't concern Hikari from his perspective unless he realized Ayami was friends with her. For all he knew he was dating a girl from her school and that's about it, like people pointed out here it's his life and privacy. But if he knew and wanted to remain a friend with Hikari that's also on him. Either way, Hikari should just move on from him if he's really into Ayami otherwise she's as bad as the other two.
>>272657102
This is true for this ending if you ignore the retarded mini story that happens after. I already ranted about this ending last thread.
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>>272657262
>The moment she thought she could just sweep things under the rug and pretend nothing happened she became a dogshit friend.
No, that was an act of true friendship. Why would you think of it as a shitty act? She's literally giving her best friend the vanilla experience she dreamed of.

>Did she really think she could remain friends with Hikari and never meet Yuu again if they started going out?
She could have suppressed her feelings for him.

>The problem with these actions is that there are no guarantees she won't keep pulling stunts like these later, and with friends who act like this you don't need enemies.
It was a moment of weakness, you can't blame her.
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>>272657262
Yeah, your rant was retarded so I decided to ignore it.
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>>272595963
I hope you took your meds
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>>272657442
It was a selfish action, taken unilaterally, without ever considering how the other two parties felt about it. Just so she would feel less guilty about something she wasn't even wrong to being with.
>She could have suppressed her feelings for him.
Can she supress Yuu's feelings though?
>It was a moment of weakness, you can't blame her.
She keeps having those. Are you supposed to overlook her every single action because she cannot see beyond herself when making decisions?
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>>272657262
>>272657550
You're too harsh on Aya, she tried to do good after messing up
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Aya did nothing wrong.
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Can someone post the web novel link? Reading the thread, it seems the manga left a lot of things compared to the wn and I wanna see it too.
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>>272658290
https://note.com/saranami/
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>>272658307
Well that's so obvious.
Thanks anon.
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>>272658290
https://note.com/saranami/m/m075a5fd4d63f
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>>272658333
Where can I find this in English?
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>>272658470
You can't. It's in japanese and it updates bi-weekly.



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