This Saturday Hippo will have her moment,
Gil lost
>>286666593Just like his fans always do.
I think this anime is pretty fun. Don't know what the fuck is going on most of the time though.
>>286666652that's the reaction from many viewers. they need to slow it down and give some room to breathe.
So why did zelretch interfere with this war?
Total Phillia love.
>>286666607Lancelot seems to have mindbroken them considering the last two threads. Saw one dude saying that if you antagonize Gilgamesh you are Jetfag regardless of the Servant you are arguing for.
>>286666652>>286666706You need to watch all the previous Fate shows, read the LNs, play the tie-in games and all the original VNs including doujin games plus every Tiger Dojo, then go through the gacha and see all the events.
>>286666947Retard. Antagonizing Gilgamesh doesn't make you a Jetfag. Posting like a Jetfag and using his tacticfs makes you a Jetfag. People arguing Lev doesn't have future sight doing exactly like Jetfags would, make them Jetfags. Stop pretending.
>>286667045>see all the eventswhen will these fuckers just make all previous events playable? it's insane that in 10 years that still isn't a feature.
>>286666536I hope they don't butcher Hippo and Alcides horseracing at the end of the world.
>>286667045This shitpost has no weight when the real problem is that they rushed the fuck out of the story to cram 6 volumes into 15 episodes worth of runtime.
>>286667138>People arguing Lev doesn't have future sightI don't think that was the argument last thread.
>>286667045Strange Fake doesn't need allat.If you watched UBW or Zero, you're mostly good.This adaptation is just rushedVolume 5 in 1.5 episodes is crazy
>>286667224And THAT's how you know you should not be talking. The entire last quarter of that thread was the retarded Jetfag arguing that Lev can't see the future. Using mats of other characters not actually contradict Lev seeing the future. Then doubling down in the most obnoxious way without addressing the arguments posed to him. That is textbook Jetfag behavior.
>>286667150The next episode begins the adaptation of the sixth volume. This volume begins with Hippolyta's flashback when Heracles arrives at her kingdom.
>>286667273The last thread is still up so I dunno what you think you are doing lying like this. Is this your M.O.?
>>286667224>>286664872???
>>286667324>The last thread is still upthen you should go and read it. Confirmed shitposter. Stop pretending. You are the Jetfag.
>>286667228>Volume 5 in 1.5 episodes is crazyI remember people saying the anime would end with volume 5. How hopeful
STOP FUCKING ARGUING ABOUT THIS POINTLESS SHIT ALREADYJUST STOP FUCKING POSTFUCK YOUR GENERALFAGGOTRYGO BACK TO >>>/vg/
>>286667330Everything said that is correct. None of it says Lev can't see the future. It just lacks the eyes of a Grand Caster.
>>286667446the eyes of the grand caster is the ability to see the world. Being able to see the future is an explciit confirmation of what this means. That post is saying that Lev cannot see the future because he's D rank, and that only A rank and above can see the future.None of what you just said is true.
>>286667467 (Me)>>286665116>>286665146Don't even deny it. He refutes Lev's future sight on a basis of rankings. And the eyes of a grand caster aren't ranked to begin with. You just need to be able to see the future, the past, or the present, and you'e qualified, supposing you're a caster to begin with
>>286667400
>>286667856it's over, bwo...
>>286666947People can actually read the posts since it's in plain simple English, Jetspic.Just because you can't understand the word intercept and corpse doesn't mean the rest of us can't.Trying to explain Fate Lore which you can barely understand is embarassing.
>>286668487Please stop. When he wakes up, he's going to drag the thread through the shitter again.
>>286666536How do I unlock their mana transfer scene that happens after this
>>286668784Stop replying to yourself because no one is taking your shitty bait.
>>286668487all i know is that this series was a literal april fools joke in FGO for many years. This entire anime has to be ai generated.
>>286668784As shown here, he's just gonna samefag and starts things by himself. I'm glad people see through his blatant shitposting. >>286669302
>>286669302>>286669382The guy who keeps complaining about jets doesn't actually like fate, he's just trying to spam the thread
>>286669448Isn't it blatantly obvious? Dude has been talking to himself about Lancelot for TWO days now. Nobody is taking his fucking bait and he keeps bringing up jets to no answer. I would have figured if his beloved Jetfag was here they would have already been replying to all the slander, literally nobody is caring.
EXU-CALIBAAAAAAAAAEXU-CALIBAAAAAAAAAEXU-CALIBAAAAAAAAAEXU-CALIBAAAAAAAAA
>>286669765
>>286669302>you're definitely the same person!>while complaining about being mistaken for someone elsePainful levels of irony.
How many /pol/fags do you think the powerlevelfags have scared off with their autism? I am thinking at least 10
>>286670183why would polfags be scared about powerlevlefags?
>>286670195Their posts occupy an island between 100 posts about clairvoyance ranking.
>>286670337Kek. I find the evolutions of these threads to be kinda interesting>episode 1-3Lots of lore talk and Tsukihime dialogue. People interested in the setting and a lot of newfags>episode 4-5Shitposting spikes massively and powerlevelfags started coming in droves. Francescafag and Ayakaspam in the middle.>episode 6-10Here we are.I miss the animeonlies and their theorizing and interest in Tsukihime.
>>286670405>episode ends with waver going who is thisHasn't that already happened?
>>286670458it has.
Post a cute Jack right NOW
>>286667045Nah, the main problem is that unironically the adaptation is too fast
>>286669302>>286669382>>286669448>>286669584>All me btw
>>286670713Too late to ask them to slow it down but there's episode for volume 6. They're not stupid enough to go to volume 7 so at least we can expect volume 6 to be adapted properly.Shame though, volume 5 was cool.
>>286670381Tsuki and Mahoyo interest was largely over Jester's bullshit ngl. This series actually got me to play them so quite kino for that alone
>>286670742I suppose they adapted what mattered more or less with Alcides and Gil jobbing, but hopefully the rest of the series is given proper pacing as it's when stuff begins to actually happen. I can give them the excuse that we're still just in the set-up for the entire cast like with the Ishura anime
>>286670405I heard someone saying the entire reason they skipped content in earlier episodes is so the Quartet nuns can feature in the next few episodes since that's the only time they get to do something.
>>286670758Also Burial Agency mention.
>>286670758Nice. I'm gonna play Tsuki Re eventually. I played Mahoyo a little while back. Nasu's better at character interactions than I remember. Soujuro and the girls were fun.>>286670771I think I'd have been satisfied with vol 5 if Gil vs Richard was properly animated. But oh well. With season 2, I think they're in a good spot>Volume 7 Half of that is just a huge scale fight and the other is just meh setups. 2 episodes honestly should be enough. 3 maybe to tie it up>Volume 8The biggest one, 3 episodes minimum. Maybe 4>Volume 9 Set up volume. 2 should be enough>Volume 104 episodes which is fine for a big volume and finale.I think they could nail it.
>>286670691
>>286670843Burial Agency got powerscaled to the moon by Re, so I get Hansa's insane fixation>>286670851Tsuki:Re was pretty good but I still think Mahoyo is possibly Nasu's greatest VN and might stay like that for a while. I like Arc and Ciel both but the other 3 routes were considered the superior ones for a reason. He's gotten a lot better at character dynamics though, big step up from KnK.Fair on 5, I like what we got since it was almost constant fighting but I do wish Gil vs. Richard was more of a proper fight instead of Richard showing off having an infinite mana battery. Femcel stole the show though, with her ENTER moment and the key
>>286670868Would jack agree to take his master's virginity in that form
There is a severe lack of hippo right now.
>>286670947Dont worry she is on the way again.
>>286666727Because Jester (or Prelat out of boredom) would have won and awoken ORT to destroy the planet
>>286670458No. You actually don't watch the show if you think that
>>286666593The losing competition
>>286670947Because that's what she does in the LN. Literally nothing after getting humbled by Gil and Al
>>286669765https://youtu.be/Kuhc8RROw10?si=GRZxm8aI3U-l6ru7
>>286666536Why does she keep showing off her armpits? It's very distracting.
>>286666778Ishtarphilia, one might say.
>>286671699Unf
>the entire first half of vol 8 is just Rin wanking. literally fell asleep reading
>>286673439>>286673459Women only have two preferences
>>286666536Why is Richard supposedly connected to Robin Hood? FGO thing or real history thing? I’m anime only btw
>>286667196People thinking Richard is a male version of Arthur when he never says such a thing in his introduction leads me to believe that the viewers are simply stupid
>>286673170Sounds boring as fuck
>>286673544>Why is Richard supposedly connected to Robin Hood? FGO thing or real history thing? I’m anime only btwBlame the films. Robin Hood is usually portrayed as being in England when Richard was away on Crusade, which caused Nottingham's leader to get too up himself.In the FATE world, Locksley was In the Crusades with Richard and came back to find a mess back home.Robin Hood has no historical basis the same way there is no William Tell. When you have no heroes, you invent them.
>>286673585>Robin Hood has no historical basis the same way there is no William Tellwrong
why do retards keep thinking the problem of the episode is because one scene has more than another when in reality the problem is that it should be 2 episodes instead of 1. Even if episode is just 100% sakuga fight shit, you're still not doing the fights justice by cramming 4 fights in the same episode back to back.
>>286667314Not Babyloniaslop, Richard/Ayaka or Sigmashit, thus cut for time
Cu could solo this war btw
>>286673776>A C-tier servant could solo a war with A++/EX-tier servantskek
>>286673727The only thing that left me unsatisfied this episode is not seeing Richard shoot bigger excaliblasts and Gil's counter to it.As far as everything else goes I think they adapted it pretty well even with all the cuts, as the main scenes were there and handled well
reminder
>>286673801>C-tier servant When nerfed by KerryGae Bolg gg
>>286674197>Gae Bolg gg>used in almost every appearance>zero kills kek
Where to find Hippo wife?
Ayaka summons Nero instead of Richard What changes
>>286674209>>used in almost every appearanceAnon, with the exception of video games where it's just a video game move, he's used it literally twice in the entire series.
>>286673544>>286673585Ivanhoe started it
>>286673170Finally some good content
>>286674482so does Rin actually smoke and its just not shown in the actual VN outside the bad end sequences?
>>286674506
>>286674620My number 1 hero would never
>>286674228sex happens
What class would Tarzan be if he can multitask with knife, bow, spear but not just ride elephants all the time
>>286674865if you summoned him as a rider, he could 'ride' vines everywhere along with anything else viable for brachiation and swinging. If you summoned him as an assassin he's be a low tier 'ultimate hunter', like a discount Nimrod
>>286671638She likes to air them out.
preview images and trailer are late this week
>>286674228The same thing that happened with the extra anime, shit flops
>>286675091nevermind, it was a daylight savings issuehttps://youtu.be/f9haFNzyeQ8
>>286673801>Ex tier servant
>>286675187Sex nuns are back on the menu
>>286675242Rider
Why do people say that the Assassin class could only contain Hassans?The first Assassin we see is Kojiro.
>>286675290Sasaki is a fake assassin. He was only summoned because Medea broke the rules.
>>286675290
>>286675290Fuyuki’s summoning ritual can only search for Hassans. Kojiro was summoned by Medea who jailbroke it. In Apo timeline they also fix the Hassan issue after some time
>>286675290because its said so in the VNfrankly I think it's one of Nasu's biggest mistakes given he didn't go the asscreed route of "every major assassin in history secretly was a successor of the hassans
Why does Ayaka have so much bunnysuit art? Is it some kind of Japanese pun?
Why doesn’t Pale Rider have an advantage over all servants they have to die to get to the throne so they should be weak to Death himself
>>286675605Pale Rider's Valentine scene would be the funniest shit ever
>>286675605He's not the universal concept of Death, that is too grand. He is confined within the limitations of the Rider class: Death in its form of Disease. And in magical terms, Disease is equivalent to Curse.Thus, he is conceptually invulnerable against those who died of diseases or curses. Iskandar would be utterly helpless against him.But those who died by the sword are the victims of his brother, War.
>>286675624>mfw the Four Horsemen are CONQUEST, War, Famine and Death instead of Pestilence, War, Famine and Death I wasn't the only one surprised.
>>286675734Tbh, Pestilence does overlap with Death. So does Famine and War, but whatever.
>>286675734They are meant to be a sequence, conquest starts war causing famine resulting in death. Some also inteprets that it's christ or antichrist switching gears.The pestilence thing probably came from their final description.>They were given authority over a quarter of the Earth, to kill with sword, famine and plague, and by means of the beasts of the Earth
>>286675734the wiki page for the horsemen of the apocalypse was there the entire time
>>286675816By they, could it mean all of them or Death?
>>286675869It's the bible, interpretations are all over.
>>286675816according to the teaching of the Jehovah's Witnesses the White Rider is Jesus who is also the Archangel Michael, and the crown they wear represents Jesus' rule over the thousand year kingdom over all Earth after vanquishing The Devil
>>286675869Could also be Death and Hades who tagged along with him.
>>286675933The word "Hades" in the Bible actually refers to Hell.
>>286673801Yes but not Cu.
>>286675605>Why doesn’t Pale Rider have an advantage over all servants they have to die to get to the throne so they should be weak to Death himselfThat wouldn't even be true unless they somehow was defeated by death. If they survived all their heroic deeds and then died mundanely afterwards, then death itself didn't play a part in their legends. Gil famously died peacefully from natural causes after giving up his failed quest for immortality. So examples like that would not give Death any hold on him.
>>286676288This guy jobbed in every fight he was in
>>286676296What about servants whose legend has them ascending to godhood after death like Herc or Karna?
>>286676296>That wouldn't even be true unless they somehow died by death
>>286676315He won against Spartacus, Avicebron's Golem, the Hanging Gardens, Karna, Heracles and won the HGW he was in.
>>286676366Lmao
Why can't you just make a Holy Grail War where you bribe and/or magically influence all of the participants to use all 3 command seals to kill their own servants? So that someone can actually get a fucking wish already
>>286676350>>That wouldn't even be true unless they somehow died by deathYou know what i mean, dying being the dramatic conclusion of their tale. If they did everything that made them heroes without dying, then them dying after retirement doesn't matter. Iskander dying before he completes his conquests would be relevant. Napoleon dying in exile long after he was defeated in battle would not be relevant. Notice that all the spirits hanging around Sigma are heroes who died failing their tasks.
>>286676649>dying being the dramatic conclusion of their tale.like Cuchulain?
>>286676576>Why can't you just make a Holy Grail War where you bribe and/or magically influence all of the participants to use all 3 command seals to kill their own servants? So that someone can actually get a fucking wish alreadyBecause you need to hire Magus, and out of 7 Magus you are definitely going to get half of them being lying selfish bastards if you are LUCKY. Remember that magic users that do cooperate are with the three major magic institutions, everyone else are Rogue Mages trying to become the next Big Bad in their own heads.
>>286676296If Gil got killed by Death then he would just need to beg Ereshkigal to let him out of the Underworld lol
So like, why did Enkidu only block 1 hydra arrow and not all of them?
>>286677007Enkidu didn't block anything, he's out in the forest.
>>286677007He simply couldn’t
>>286675187WHERE ARE THE PRELATIS?? WHERE ARE THEY?
>>286675605That actually runs counter to Nasuverse rules. If everyone was theoretically weak to the concept Death, that'd just make Death not special and thus less effective.
>>286677208If I had to guess they won't be in this episode, their big scene will be next episode.
>They skip Sigma vs JesterHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>286677362purease undertando richard wank is mandatory he must have 10 scenes per episode minimum
Would servants who have visited the realm of the dead and survived like Heracles and Gilgamesh be advantageous against Pale Rider?
>>286677007Not his fight to fight
>>286677537Traversing the underworld is not destroying the underworld. This eludes the concept rather than challenges it. The underworld is not, itself, a danger, it's the forces of the damned that Pale Rider can endlessly conjure.
You know who also visited hell and came back.
>>286677431It’s true, I forgive them
>traps Death and makes the entire world immortal for some time until the Olympians intervene>gets killed and still tricks Hades to let him go homeLeave Pale Rider to me
Richard lost in a wankoff against Gil in the last episode and nearly died from it. Didn't wank hard enough.
>>286677894This counts as Ayaka losing to Tine btw
>>286677894>Richard lost in a wankoff against Gil in the last episode and nearly died from it. Didn't wank hard enough.Richard's dps is just too low so far, even if he could stay alive using his mobility. And consider he is already getting infinite mana, I am not sure what he can do when powercreep happens in later volumes. I guess you can argue that he could get a better sword, which boosts his Excalibur spam. But otherwise he is in risk of being made redundant later with the BIG threats.
What should I draw?
>>286677894And he was lucky he was figting Gil and using his weapons to get stronger Excaliburs because otherwise he can only fire D rank ones
>>286678192Sex with your favourite nun out of the Quartet
>>286678192Tine or Tsubaki riding on Dog's back
>>286677887Would Sisyphus even be able to win a Grail War? I feel like he'd have a skill or passive NP where, outside of what he did accomplish in myth, no matter how close he gets to success in something, it'll always fall apart at the end. Maybe you could find a loophole by letting somebody else do the finishing touches, idk.
>>286677894>Richard is spotless next episode>Gil is in a fucking coma
>>286678441>>Richard is spotless next episodeInfinite mana does wonders.
>>286678479Doesn't Tine have access to the leylines? She should have infinite mana as well
>>286678496>Doesn't Tine have access to the leylines? She should have infinite mana as wellCurses and venoms are different. The issue is that most wounds can be fully healed with mana even if it could take time, but I don't think Hydra Venom goes away naturally. Magical cures are theoretically possible, but mana alone can't remove it.
>>286678192Gil in the family guy death pose
>>286678441MY HERO
>>286674482>>286674620>Akiha drinks alcohol>Rin uses drugswhat did Nasu mean by this?
>>286674620My seigi no mitaka would never.
>>286678980>Rin uses drugsShe was drawing her own blood. Stop lying.
>>286677104cute
>>286679040They clearly meant to imply something since she's always smoking in the bad endings.
>>286679130But that pic you posted was Rin taking a sample of her own blood for use in her Jewel Magecraft.
>>286666778Philia? More like Trichophilia
>>286666536Can I get a quick rundown in how to watch fate stuff? So I watched:> zero>rin routeI know there is also the purple haired girl route and artorias was done aeons ago. But do I need to watch another fate for this? Is this before or after? My knowledge about fate comes basically from that and ankoman doujinshi
>>286679413You could also watch HF and Babylonia to get a taste of some of the antagonists in this one
>>286679413>But do I need to watch another fate for this?Technically there is references from all over the franchise in this show. But I feel the only real way to understand it is if you read the novels where they had time to explain things. The anime didn't just have references, but skips explanations to save time. The novel tries to explain what is happening that the anime does not do.
>>286679413How about you red the original visual novel?
Current Power Scale (Volume 9)
>>286679413It's actually insane just how retarded the watch order of normies is. Imagine watching a prequel then going for the second part of the original story.
>>286679413You've already failed. If you insist on only watching the anime, the ONLY starting point is deen 2006. There is no compromising on that.
>>286679750The fact many refuse to read the damn VN is astonishing for me. The only thing you need to do in order to not be a secondary is to just read the original Fate/Stay Night story. It's so piss easy to do nowadays since it's now on Steam.>but it censored on steam!Okay? The uncensored version is just one google search away. Absolute bare minimum bar for entry.
I think Phillia is still stronger than Rintar. Rintar created a singularity on her second interlude which is similar to the stuff Phillia did when she was changing the texture to the AoG. Except you have to consider FGO dictates singularities can only be created after Marisbury created Lost Belt Zero. Prior to that singularities could not be created, likely because the world would always instantly correct them. So Phillia changing the texture to the AoG is still more impressive.
>>286679848People couldn’t read 10 years ago, you think they have the patience for it nowadays?
>>286679949They're both pedo-servants essentially. Rintar came with gugugulana and Philtard had to steal it from the FGO world to get it. Rintar is just on the stupid evil side so her schemes always end up retarded but she's ultimately seemed more dangerous. One thing to remember 70% of FGO events and stories are world ending shit, so most other fate stories are about on the same scope as one little adventure.
>>286675734There must have been some prominent pop-cultural depiction that had pestilence instead of "conquest" because how tf do so many people end up with the same misconception?or it's debris leftover from reality editsand isn't it redundant to have conquest and war???
>>286680110There is nothing that ever led me to think Rintar is more dangerous than Phillia at all.
>>286679413Just watch Strange Fake, the is no need to read or watch anything else.
>>286680110>pedo-servantsmusashi and atalante out of nowhere
>>286679949There shouldn't even be any comparison and it's not just a mindset thing.>Philia has far better access to her Authorities>can just steal magical energy by charming the Earth>can charm enemy attacks like Alcides' mudded+poisoned arrows and turn them into Cita>has Cita at all, and access to a super-duper rare A+++ NP attack>charms the air itself to resist attacks, etcmeanwhile Rintard>has to beg and grovel for gems to even use her magic>nuke caps out at A++Rin is a massive nerf even if it makes her a better person.
>>286680267Ishtar and Quetz are both monsters but they dont really do much since the first half of the chapter is mostly comedy and then there's Tiamat who's even more broken. Rintar's NP is pretty fucking strong too.
>>286680185>and isn't it redundant to have conquest and war???War is the soldiers dying. Conquest is the civilians suffering which may be during or after a war.In the end people don't really read their Bibles. i mean most of the time you don't buy them, people just buy them as gifts for someone else. So no wonder no one bother to check if the horsemen were correct.My own highschool "gifts" us Bibles as a part of our graduation, and sends us a bill for the purchase afterwards.
>>286680449Phillia can also gather the blue in the sky and compress into a second Venus in her war hammer. Which is pretty much Rintar's NP.
>>286680449>Rintar's NP is pretty fucking strong too.Doesn't she throw Venus itself at the enemies?
Flat is so much cooler than everyone else.
>>286680449>Ishtar and Quetz are both monstersKek Ozymandias mogs Quetz.
>>286680867>Ozymandias mogs QuetzNot even Sakurai believes that
>>286680437>can just steal magical energy by charming the Earth>can charm enemy attacks like Alcides' mudded+poisoned arrows>charms the air itself to resist attacks, etcJetCHAD can do this KoO as well>B-BUT By this CS Lancelot you will now consider everything I consider a weapon as a weapon. Cope.
>>286680726The civilians suffering is meant to be Famine. Conquest is christ, antichrist, Rome and/or Persia, or generally the ambition and hubris of men that cause chaos and strife (War) to follow.
>>286680922Quetzalmeme gets raped by a single beam from Dendera LMAO. Low diff. >B-BUT OzyCHADias has Anti Purge and immortality inside his pyramid complex. Quetzaltranny can't even harm him in any way.
>>286680818>0 damage to TiamatFancy words but the powerlevel is actual garbage.
>rape
>>286681083Because Tiamat is immune to NPs up and including A++
>>286681095>ShikekOzyCHADias negates the NPs of anyone that isn't a god or became a god during their life. Shiki's shit ad a Servant is regarded a NP. He's fucked.
>>286681095I hear it's pretty fine
>>286681109Should have used a Broken Phantasm version of the NP then, loser.
>>286678980daily reminder rin is a junkie
>>286681171>37 female rapists in the top 3 tiers compared to 14 males
>>286681095>RAPEki - Fucks even if the whores don't want to - Can see dead people and nothing personnel them - is a Sex God even with heart disease - a cat is fine too Why is he so much better as a protag than SHITrou?
>>286679949Or SF is written before the Lostbelt arc and thus what Filia Ishtar did was intended to be in the same framework as what Rin Ishtar could do.There's a reason why both Sanda and Narita constantly change the plot the second Nasu drops the next lorebomb.
>>286681171But Shirou never raped anyone aside from Gilgamesh?
>>286682387Because he's an even more blatant self insert then Shirou. Almost as bad as the FGO MC.
>>286680110Anon...Even the SU Ishtarin who wanted to destroy the known galaxy for abandoning her as the primordial mother goddess is still a good girl dinduThere's zero universe where Rin is actually evil, even in that HF route she was mindbroken the moment she chose to kill Sakura by her own hand
>>286679040That's what junkies do before injecting, to see if they hit the vein properly. Rin is the type of a girl that injects speedballs and lies to gullible Shirou that it's "a type of magic". I guess she's right, shit hits like a motherfucker.
>>286676288Imagine not being a LuckCHAD who survived and won thanks to just being really lucky
>>286679949>>286680437>>286680733It's strange that a mere fragment of Ishtar could be this powerful, while not many divine spirits or even goddesses in FGO could replicate these feats.Closest I could think of is Skadi, and she still needs the Tree to do anything worthwhile.Even Artemis, Demeter, Aphrodite and Ibuki aren't really this OP.
>>286682696Wasn't Ibuki wanked to a ridiculous extend?
>>286682696I suppose there's nerfed Indra summoning himself and accidentally breaking the sky
>>286682940>Indrajit victimlmao.
>>286682696Ishtar is believed to have been the most important/worshipped god irl by a long margin. Even if she isn't on paper she could be said to be their equivalent of Zeus
>>286683020I would worship Phillia desu.
>>286682951Who the fuck is Indrajit?
>>286682516The later volumes of FSF featuring Ishtar were definitely written after singularity 7 though.I'm not sure why you think Rintar is meant to be as powerful as Phillia when Phillia is a far more pure Ishtar. Rintar is mainly just Rin.
>>286683134Sends your soul to the rape dimension
>>286682844All just to get offscreened by Douman and Gil
>>286683134can't blame him
>>286683240Poo Lancelot.
>>286683134>Mystic Eyes of Rape Dispension >Allows the owner to rape even things that don't have the concept of "getting raped" How powerful is that in Fate terms?
>>286683428It's funny how they try to put emphasis on her having a huge ass and Kohaku ends up mogging her by having the largest one via the CG
>>286683265Stronger than Prelati.
>>286683428Imagine curryiel taking a curry shit with an ass like that. The smell alone would kill a True Ancestor.
>>286683555considering we have evidence of one of its victims? very
Did narita know?
>>286683570Shiki's foster dad had a good taste. So nice of him to teach Akiha how to rape the rapists at night.
>scat fantasiestruly worst girl
The angular artstyle of A1's Phishtar makes her so much more sexier than the "clean" and smoother rendition of her character seen in fanarts. I honestly can't get horny over fanarts of Phishtar while the less sexier artstyle and animation of the anime ver. gets me all hot and bothered.
>>286683649I remember that. Many laughs were had. Someone at the Customs knew what they were dealing with and put the nibboneze porn container to rest, sending the corpse to the receiver.
>>286666536>Fate/Strange Fake>not a fake>actually an official productwtf
>>286683673magecraft was literally invented by jews so
Tony...
>>286683673Yes. The Clarvoyance debacle from earlier wasn't just autistic shitflinging, it was a coded message by Narita himself as a way to warn the world.
>>286675624>He's not the universal concept of DeathDoes the Pale Rider, despite his name, even have any connection to religion or any other concept? If I remember correctly, he was declared as a Servant of Gaia and part of her system for converting living organisms into nutrients.
>>286684037Not really, it's the embodiment of pestilence made Servant with no real will other than doing what Tsubaki wants since she's the Master.
>>286683870It's a strange fanfiction, therefore fake.
>>286684037Is the Coronavirus a Beast of Gaia like Pale Rider? Can it be summoned as Servant?
>>286684429Who's that on the left
>>286684475Dumas young
>>286683020Gil wanked Ishtar too.
Which is the episode where Pale Rider prevented people from leaving Snowfield?I think there was a truck driver who turned around at the outskirts after being mind controlled.
>>286685342It was the opening scene for ep 6 I think
>>286684792Maybe to you, Gilcuck. JetCHAD with Arondight and a good Master beats KEKshtar in about... 15 seconds. It takes about 11 to beat Kerry Altria using all he strength to defend, and that's with Jets having the worst Master in all of Fate. Considering Altria is almost as strong as Giljob, I'd say Ishtar is maybe 1.5 strongest than Gilgameme, so 15 seconds is enough.
>>286685481Looks like that was the episode but the scene wasn't as cool or detailed as I remembered. Was going to use it for a shitpost. Oh well.Thanks though.
>>286683688What
Trump servant when
>>286685622Ah, snowfield!
>>286685679Are you blind or just stupid
>>286685716He was already summoned by Netanyahu, his Master.
>>286678407
Just how good is our boy Richard anyway?
>>286680407Thanks anon. I was never that found of fate, I do really like Arthus female version and the plottwist, but nothing really kept me watching it. I dropped 2006 somewhere, watched zero, because of the good animation and then unlimited bladeworks so I can watch the og. I didn‘t like it that much, but here I gilgamesh looses or so and that made me kinda interested. I must admit that I mostly liked zero so far, alexander was a fun guy.
>>286686301mid-to above average normally. Hard carried by Ayaka in strange/fake
>>286686418Makes me wonder how many servants there are that are shit purely because of their mana inefficiency.
>>286686528We know Karna and Herc are both huge mana drains and would suck the average mage dry very fast. Also by comparison Gil is really efficient since he barely needs mana from his Master.
>>286686620Which is funny considering Enkidu called him mana inefficient with his whole sword throwing shit iirc
>>286686620FSN Herc mana drain is conflated by being a berserker which is a shitty jobber class advertised to bad masters that couldn't support the mana costs. Alcides is from all of the absolute bullshit NPs he pulls out of his ass. Regular archer and saber Heracles just fucking around with nine lives martial arts moves probably wouldn't be THAT bad.
>>286686776Didn't he call him inefficient in general because he's just throwing random shit
>>286678819
i watched fate night and unlimited blade works when i was younger so i have some grasp of how the fate series works butthis does feel too rushed, visually its been nice and i like the characters but liketheres too much happening, earlier on i figured there was some hinting at stuff that would be properly explained later but then more shit just keeps getting added and i feel like im expected to already know all these characters?
>>286685900????
>>286688441Wednesday cute
>>286688368The fuck d'you put on my coffee, bitch?
is gilgamesh a virgin?
>>286688985The original? Definitely not. This instance/copy of gilgamesh? Probably. The reason why Fate is this autistic about copies is because they want to be clear that your copy is different from the other's copies so even if one copy wants to die in another's arms or fuck someone else your copy is pure.
What Hogwarts Houses would the FSF characters be?
>>286689167This Gil sounds like a slut
>>286666593>>286666607>Fate/Zero aired in 2011>it's been 15 years>jetkeks are STILL seethingLet it go, this isn't healthy, you spent all last week trying to make threads with cuckporn your edited yourself.
They really need to do an extended cut of 9 and 10 for the blurays. Way too much fucking shit cut for no reason.
>>286689507>for no reasonBecause they want to fit 6 volumes into 12 episodes. Fate Zero had only 4 volumes and got 25 episodes for comparison.
Haram
>>286688346They're skipping and rushing a lot, entire volumes are being crunched into a single episode
>>286689374This is how you looked posting this shit btw.
>>286689585Fate Zero has JetCHAD which deserves budget and time. Gilfag propaganda only deserves to be rushed and low effort.
>>286689374S2 is probably going to cause some suicides among them.
>>286690181
He's REALLY mad now
>>286689942I'm not convinced this isn't a bot that replies to every post mentioning Gil or Fate Zero
>>286690181I'd be more worried about the 32 NPs line from Zero in japanese not saying anything about JetCHAD not being able to resist that number, Gilkek. Even if Gilgameme defeated fucking Solomon himself in S2, he still confirmed loses to JetCHAD in F/Z. Tokiomi really saved his bitch ass.
>>286690399
>>286689942So you say, but Zero butchered Jets' backstory and fight with Saber
>>286689585Yeah, but they still rushed and cut shit even there
>>286691386>fight that lasts 10 fucking seconds in loreidk wtf you expected from that fight post Arondight. The fight was lore accurate.
Is Shiro or a Shiro-adjacent japanese boy the lead in this
>>286690672Solomon and Lev are version exclusive servants hardlocked to FGO. They can't be summoned outside that universe because Solomon is no longer in the Throne which means that no Fate universe can summon him and Lev suicides in every universe that isn't FGO after 2015.
>>286669204you need to download the original VN
>>286692061John American is ShirouThere is no protagonist in this series, its not really how Narita works. Every character is the protagonist and he just cycles through every character and every point of view constantly. It creates a story of different points of view with no side being the correct or absolute one, and viewers guessing until the end who the winner or survivor will be, since the story doesn't give you the answer immediately by designating one character to be above all characters as "the true protaganist"
>>286692183i kind want to watch this thenbut i also never finished the second half of zero a decade ago so maybe i should go finish that someday
>>286692087The point is that no matter what happens in SF S2, it's not gonna take away the fact that nothing in the entire Fate Zero novel points to Gilgamesh ever having a shot at beating Berserker Lancelot while everything points to Berserkerlot being capable of beating the shit out of him. Also SF is about breaking the rules, Dead Apostles shouldn't be in Fateverse.
>>286692447Lancelot's main problem is actually his master. Because the writer is urobutcher and he can't resist killing off someone like Kariya so Lancelot is doomed from the beginning. Because of that Lancelot just can't win. Also Gilgamesh. He also can't win the HGW, because Fate favours the underdogs and the winner will not get a strong servant to begin with to make things exciting for the audiecne.Characters who start at the top of their power will generally lose them or exist to be defeated. Characters without much power will generally gain them over time. Mentor characters have a 99.9% death rate. Tragedybait characters almost always die (death rate above 99%), because it's easier to wring out a few cheap emotions out of the audience than it is to explain what they are going to do with their life once they actually complete their character arc. Reformed villains? Dead because authors don't want to write about them. Characters who complete their character arc? Dead as fuck. Characters who talk about what they are going to do once this is over? Dead as nails. etcFor someone like Lancelot to win, he needs to have a master who is actually protagonist material for the plot armour.
>>286693240>Lancelot's main problem is actually his masterThis is straight up said in an interview. Urobuchi said he did want to have them fight more but couldn't because Kariya would implode.>For someone like Lancelot to win, he needs to have a master who is actually protagonist material for the plot armourIt's not aboit winning, it's about having a good showing. The way they kill off Ozymandias is a great way to kill the uber strong enemy in the war. Even if he loses, he goes out strong. Lancelot death in Zero was a decent way to display this, the dude was shown capable of killing an enemy strong Servant in like 11 seconds once he starts going full power, and the only way to write him out was not losing the fight straight up, but his weakest link, the Master, being depleted of mana. He didn't actually get fucked like Gilgamesh does most of the time, dying to Shirou is pathetic, so was dying to Sakura and even a gimped Saber. His SF death was entirely his won fault for being arrogant about the key. If Gilgamesh went out like Ozymandias did, there would be nothing to make fun of.
>>286692447>Dead Apostles shouldn't be in Fateverse.Dead Apostles exist in Fate as well, it's the rank of Ancestor that doesn't.Though Ancestors do exist in Strange Fake. Precision is important.
Why don't masters try to summon servants with a winning track record more? Surely the point is to win and not just summon the strongest jobber. Why do they think trying to summon Giljob and Jobracles for the dozenth time is a good idea?
>>286694967As far as anyone is able to judge from the outside, Gilgamesh WON the fourth holy grail war.
Lancelot would have been a great False Saber ngl
>>286694967No one has ever won a grail war, the best you can do is stop a grail war That's kinda the point of HF routeThere's a reason the game ends with this quote, the entire game was leading up to it. >The sage cries out.>"Open, Gates of Heaven. Bless us and bestow miracles upon us!">The sage cries out in regret>"Close, Gates of Heaven. Save us from all our sins and evil!">The curtain closes.>The millennium comes to a standstill.>Our dreams, our hope... was a forbidden "failure" from the start.>The stars fall out of the sky.>Space closes up into nothingness.>The pathway to the center is shrouded along with our sins.>.....I am, at last, filled with joy>All has been engulfed in darkness.>Nothing can hurt you now.>At last, you have now been set free from the pain you carried for so long.>You may now rest without a worry on mind.In fate route you know nothing and you question nothing, you assume things to be factual. On UBW.gou begin to question things but not too much. HF is the answer route, you come to question everything you were told. You learn the truth about Kiritsugu the "hero of justice", the ritual was a lie to begin with, not only is it a lie but the entire thing is almost a perfect parable for human greed and error where the only moral is that it SHOULD end, you can only find happiness by removing it and realizing it was a mistake from the start.It wasn't until near the end of HF that Shirou has to say it directly to the audience "wait, no one has ever actually WON a grail war before, meaning the ritual is a failure, it's unworkable">But what about apocryphaSieg stopped the ritual and ended the war before completion >What about marisberry He used cheat codes to get to force the grail war to be winnable and all it did was de-cannonize his entire world line, it wasn't a victory
>>286694967Ozymandias is a safe bet I think. Dude only lost the war he was in because he was trying to save the world from loli Satan over winning the HGW. It makes sense, what good is a wish if fucking Satan is about to spawn a Beast not long after it's granted?
>>286694967Gil's catalysts are easy to get because he has every treasure in his treasury but most are also low quality. That's in part why he has been summoned so much. Compared to FGO, there's no powerful omnicatalyst here so mages in the anime have to BUY or INHERIT catalysts. You will lose to people with just more money and/or lineage than you because it will be a commodity to be bought and sold on the black market like Mystic Eyes.Compared to FGO, there's significant summoning restrictions in place for HGW. A lot of strong units are locked behind extra classes or are version exclusive to FGO because the entries aren't being stored in the throne but in a local SG backup. No evil orientated characters, no divine spirits etc, no dupes allowed of classes, needing personality compatibility and needing high mana efficiency or else you will die from overdraw: all of this shit stacks together to make summoning suck in HGW
>>286694967As far as fsn/fsf is concerned>first 3 wars have no winners>Gil won the 4th>either Artoria or Medusa won the 5thAnd they did try to get Artoria in FSF but get Richard instead.Apoc timeline has way more small scale grail wars and supposedly entire wiki for metagaming. iirc Hassans win a bunch at first, then all their zabaniyas got recorded so they returned to jobbing and faded out.
>>286695253>Gil won the 4thlmao no Kiritsugu won the 4th.
>>286695220In FGO they just use Mashu's shield to call heroes since it's the centerpiece of the round table so it's conceptually "a place where heroes gather"
>>286695253No one won fourth or fifth wars, play the game. Grail was destroyed in zero before the ritual was finished, that's the entire point. Two servants were still fighting, no winner was reached In order for the theme of the game to work the ritual had to be another failure, there can't be a winner. It's the same in FSN, grail is destroyed before the grail is complete, no wish is made People often misunderstand the grail as well, thinking the grail is complete when six servants dieNo the grail requires all seven to be dead, mages just don't try to make that fact especially well known, since servants generally will rebel if they know about itThe three command seals are to suicide your own servant at the end Seven servants are necessary to amass enough energy to reach the other side of the world, which will open a gateway for infinite mana, which can THEN be used to reach the rootThat's the truth of the grail war.
>>286695380Kirei said Kerry won.
>>286695418He flibs the truth a lot
>>286695289>>286695380Hey, morons. Nobody on the outside was able to sit and watch every scene over their shoulders. We're having a watsonian discussion, so shove the doylist complaints. AS FAR AS ANYONE KNEW, the facts are like this: only one Servant lingered past the fourth war and into the fifth (materialized meaning he must have touched the grail), the renowned magus killer Kiritsugu was hired by the Einzberns and was never seen again (because he lived a quiet life in Fuyuki for his remaining five years of life), and Artoria made it to the end in both wars.
>>286695334Does the novel text say he's that short, because Morii's art doesn't show it
>>286695577>OH MY GOD! MY SERVANT IS A JOBBER!
>>286684792Where did Gilgamesh say this?
Ishtar and Gilgamesh would be a fun couple. They're very similar.
>>286666536berserker is the most based class
>>286694967This logic only works in the apocrypha universe where a thousand grail wars are taking place and mages have created power level forums and wiki with descriptions of all previously summoned servants (which, for example, countered the Hassan meta).
How is powerful is true ORT from PHH? Because as far as I'm concerned, the one fought in FGO is a parallel universe counterpart, one that is infinitely weaker because of the absence of its "heart", yet far stronger than any other enemy ever fought or ever would be fought.
>>286697276You already said it yourself that ORT is the strongest. What's the point of even asking let alone discussing it?
Which Ishtar do you like better?
>>286697444The one with bigger boobs.
>>286697276Undefeatable by any measure currently in existence. Arcueid's the only thing that comes close, but the matchup is poor, she is a planet, it is a planet eater.
>>286697444I like the albino one better.
>>286697444Nasu really stops needing to use other characters as powerups for his favourites
>>286697521How about in comparison to other power-scaling franchises like pic related?
>>286697712It's rather difficult to compare. Type-Moon is a world that works in concepts where exact output is nebulous and left for the author to interpret.Also I don't know who any of those are. Suffice to say, if they can survive a supernova with their powers turned off, they should be fine. Can ORT analyze, decode, and disable their powers like it can with anything in Type-Moon? Who can say? That's for the author writing the story to decide.
>>286697838Look up Dies Irae (or the Masadaverse in general). It has some of the most broken and insane power-scaling ever.
>>286686344That game looks like it would grow out your chest hair.
the only place that powerscaling has any practical purpose is in lucid dreamingbut you will steamroll everything anyway no matter the powerlevel because it scales off belief and you are just effectively playfighting.
>>286697521Maris Chaldeas can just fire 7 AAS-level supernovas at it and completely destroy it. In the end the thing was still killed by Batschizo and Excaliblast and Maris has the most firepower in all of Nasu.
>>286679688>Even when pale rider is reduced to a wisp who does nothing it's still C tier
>>286687209Reminder that Alceides fought both Ishtar and Berserker to a standstill while Gil basically died in 5 seconds to themTotal KWAB
>>286673544>shitty king thats your brother keeps not doing king stuff and goes to war and keeps getting himself held hostage>fuck have to pay for his bail now>fuck we bankrupt England twice>fuck we have to bail him again, start taxing harder>now you get Robin Hood
>>286697276>How is powerful is true ORT from PHH?If it is true that it will take a new race of earthlings to defeat them long after Humans are gone... Then Thia Escardos fits the bill. Seriously, it takes the combination of all surviving Servants working together to minimise the damage caused by it, and even Gaia granted Enkidu extra power just because it felted life on Earth is threaten.
No gilWhat's the point
>>286695913In Babylonia.
>>286691418It's always a thirdie if you notice extreme obsession with powerlevels and making up scenarios that never happened as a "proof" as to why a given character is the STRONGEST. Meanwhile, we all know it doesn't matter in Nasuverse, if author wanted then he'd always find a reason for why a powerful character loses to an angry woman or a schoolboy. There's absolutely no reason to engage with retards trying to bait you into discussing their headcanon. They're lonely and want someone to talk to them about their favorite, bestest ever, heroes.
>>286699204>>286699218You'd think he'd at least latch onto an important servant, not some mid-tier nobody of little consequence.
>>286697276Shirou clears because it attempts to comprehend why he would fight it.
>>286699218There's a very simple answer - Fate/Zero anime. Nobody was talking about Lancelot until then, the flashy fight during which he took control of that jet has impressed many thirdies who were kids back then. Years later, those who found no success in their lives, likely due to extreme autism, found a way to vent their frustration by self-inserting as the coolest character they know. Lancelot in this case.
>>286698077That's not just "Maris Chaldeas", that's Maris Chaldeas and 200 million trees of emptiness. It took awhile to amass that kind of firepower and Maris can't exactly expend it freely.
>>286698077oh and I forgot to add>warps your space making all the lasers missnice try kid
>>286698077After it was revealed that the fantasy trees are Olga's magic circuits, you really wonder what Olga's max ceiling is.
>>286699281At the time of Fate/Zero airing, there wasn't yet a whole, new tier of powerlevel autism brought by FGO. Back then, Lancelot could be considered one of the best Servants, gimped by his Berserker status. Sure, nowhere near "the best on paper", but still strong enough to give a good fight. I assure you that if it was Diarmuid who did the whole jet stick, today they would be obsessing about him, not Lancelot. It really is that laughably simple.
>>286699461>gimped by his Berserker statusWhat? Lancelot is improved by being a Berserker. He's only stifled by his weakling Master.
>>286699474He's improved by being a Berserker in one extremely specific scenario where Gil is present, and that improvement amounts to not being turned into paste by a bored Gilgamesh.
Ayaka sex…
Why no more HEVC uploads?Am I retarded?
>>286699536I'm starting to get the feeling that this is a show for womenThe girls are plain while the guys are attractive. It should be the opposite.
>>286699536That doggie is fa as fuck
>>286699536>>286699591They kinda lost Enkidu's androgynous look with those broad shouldersTine a cute
>>286699516No, he's basically improved across the board. The only thing he loses out on is Arondight Overload, which is a middling maneuver at best. And the ability to use For Someone's Glory to disguise himself as specific individuals, but he's not exactly a professional infiltrator, so that is a very niche application, and the censorship that is its best quality is still going even as a Berserker.Other than that, he's given power and agility to keep up and overwhelm even the highest end of heroic spirits.
>>286697884>What would have happened if Gilgamesh said sorry
>>286699591I mean you have the North American version of Kuruminha in this show, it can't be for women
>>286699591Well it's white day aka women pandering season right now
>>286699561hevc 2160 is from iqyijust search https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=fate and ctrl f hevchttps://nyaa.si/view/2083854
>>286699747Thanks. I was using Erai-Raws for a while, but last month all 3 series I was getting from them they just seemed to stop with the hevc uploads. Not sure why.Mostly wanted it for the file size really.
I don't get it, why didn't Gil's master just whoosh him out of there with her command seals?
>>286666778I wonder if Einzbern deals with prostitution. Their homunculi are top tier sex dollsm
>>286699790sites change all the time, they might have changed their encryption methods or lost the contacts for it. also hevc is actually banned from the scene. >>286699591Fate is never recovering from this: https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AD%E3%83%AA%E9%AF%96%E5%A4%AA%E9%83%8Etldr FGO has loads of attractive women since it's aimed at men more than women while traditionally fate anime is omnipandering. So they decide to adapt the gacha.Unfortunately, guda is suppposed to be (You) so he is extremely weak combat wise and is shit as a mage and they pick the male protagonist so you get loads and loads of scenes of Guda doing shit all and hiding behind attractive women who keep getting beaten up and injured saving him and they still ass kiss up to him. Fate anime fans love fight scenes and powerlevelfagging. They are absolutely outraged that Guda is hiding behind women. Japan shits out loads and loads of fanart of Guda being a mental retard led around by his handler, Mash, on a leash and many Fate fans are attacked for being retards. Since then, Nasu overcompensated and showed Guda in a power suit (lol) for one of the movies which is something of an embarrassment. The only active fate series being produced are the gacha (FGO - male orientated), Narita (FSF - omnipandering) and Case Files/Adventures (arguably omnipandering, but technically female orientated because females like mysteries more). Everything else is on perma hiatus. Now you know why FSF is the one being made and they'll probably only go with another gacha adaptation if they can make sure it's actually good.
>>286699999Nice quints.Because she believed in him too much
>>286700033>nice quintsHoly shit, I didn't even notice that after making the post
>>286699999She did as soon as she realized what was happening. Shit happens fast at servant speeds.
>>286700032Who was the Fate/Extra "adaptation" for? Nasu himself?
>>286699999She is 12
>>286700065yes you guessed right, that one is for Nasu. actually the gacha singularities that were adapted were also Nasu's. I bet all the people in their little circle are trying to get their fate stories adapted and they'll just keep trying to cycle through and get as much of their work animated, over investing more money in the game.
>>286666778E N T E R
Do you think the Prelatis are curious enough to have sex with themselves?
>>286699536I want to ruffle woofy.
>>286700090yes
>>286699333It took her 100 years and global industrialization to get that far thogh
Tine is far too headpattable
>>286700032>also hevc is actually banned from the scene.What do you mean, and why?
>>286693599>The way they kill off Ozymandias is a great way to kill the uber strong enemy in the war.Is this from Singularity 5 or Fate/Proto?
>>286700032> Autistic people care about other random people's autismof course
>>286700126the argument goes that the quality isn't as good as the standard h264 even though it offers a much better filesize for that level of quality.
>>286700256Fair enough.I don't know if I care enough to redownload older stuff i have in hevc and compare though.
>>286700270it doesn't really matter, because anime scenes get fixed up in the bds anyway
>>286700090Male Prelati would know it has teeth so he wouldn't put it in.Female Prelati would know it shoots venom so she wouldn't put it in.
>>286699684>to keep up and overwhelm even the highest end of heroic spirits>never does itkek
Does Eresh show up in SF
Does Richard beat Lancelot
damn, i didn't know there was a new servant
>>286700673I mean.. he's not been in any other content except Extella, where he did fine.
How come white Patchouli Knowledge gets to have have a young body while Zouken's body is stuck as a withered old man?
>>286700087So basically there are tons of people around Nasu, himself included, who want to see their fanfiction animated.
>>286701005seeing more anime with your ocs over more gacha. wise decision.
>>286697521Arcueid is basically a sentient universe since she is a planet with a Principle. With Principles being superpowers unique to only vampires that develop based on that vampire's worldview. Which is why in her case you see stuff related to the big bang.It's also the entire foundation of the TsukiR world/multiverse which is why there are so many allusions to TsukiR being Arcueid's dream.
>>286701033All planets are sentient universes including ORT.
>>286701117I'm not sure where you got that idea.Planets don't encroach on the universe which is why Maris CHALDEA (the pseudo-universe) is separate from Olga CHALDEA (the pseudo-planet).
>>286701272Read Ordeal Call 3. The Celestial Egg is how planets get born. The Archetype is sent out, finds a Celestial Egg adrift in space, and becomes a new spacetime.
>>286701278This is a common misconception people have after the explanation given in OC3.They keep conflating the star eggs with the Celestial Egg. Which is wrong.The Celestial Egg is a Principle (which is a Crimson Moon exclusive concept), which is different from a generic planet egg forming the basis for the birth of a planet.
>>286699602those are part of the suit, not Enkidu's shoulders
>>286697276Only Ultraman can beat it.
>>286701377I am pretty certain they're meant to be the same thing.Just because the celestial egg is Arcueid's Principle doesn't mean she gets exclusivity of the concept itself, anymore than Vlov is the only one who gets to freeze things. It'd just mean that being the Archetype is the foundation of her existence and all that.
>>286701767Well the details are scarce, but from this scene it's stated the Principle (Celestial Egg) didn't exist until Crimson Moon did his thing by cursing humanity and the Ancestors. Which is the one thing that resulted in the birth of Arcueid/Celestial Egg, which then retroactively became the foundation of the planet.It didn't exist before then, but the star egg did, since it's just the foundation of the physical planet. Crimson Moon also considered the star egg to be a weak foundation as stated in this scene. It's also made of an accumulation of common substances like gas, carbon and oxygen while the Celestial Egg is metaphysical.
He's so cool...
>>286701033Based Shiki. This means his dick is like Rank EX Noble Phantasm able to sexually brutalize even the Planet itself. If a cat is fine too, then is there anything in Tsukihime that Shiki wouldn't be able to woo and fuck?
>>286699728Need Tine as Kuruminha art
>>286700150Prototype. Ozymandias lost, but the way he lost is impossible to slander. He got his Master killed by Assassin, and still fought Brynhild, Arash and Arthur, the last 2 backed up by Paracelsus Philosophers Stone to mitigate the effects of his NP. It took Arash Stella boosted by 3 CS + Excalibur to defeat his Dendera Lightbulb attack, Arash of course dying in the process and Arthur lost half his body from the clash.Gilgamesh has NEVER lost in this manner. He always just jobs like a bitch.
>>286702154Sakurai is absolute cancer
>>286702154Sakurai is absolute gem
>>286702234>spicchecks out
>>286702154Yeah, makes sense. Sometimes a good death is better than a miserable life.
>>286702154I'd call that a good thing. Gilgamesh loses because he has character flaws. Ozymandias, on the other hand, is just an utterly boring take on him.
>>286702154What was wrong about Gilgamesh's loss in FSF?
>>286702154Then FGO happens and Ozy starts getting his cheeks clapped by Xuanzang, then Nitocris, then Arthur and Arash can fight him no problem. Then even Mordred can rip his temple apart.FGO, man.
>>286702797powercreep gonna powercreep gilgamesh also was left in the dust
>>286682696Ishtar only becomes that crazy after she gets her temple and starts reverting the texture to the age of gods
>>286702873aint even powercreep. he's losing to regular servants with less impressive showings every time.in fgo arcade, he lost to a party of>trashu, izo, medusa, cursed arm, da vinci and...mata hariozy was grailed here and in his temple. da vinci said he should never have been that strong if he wasn't grailed. those guys are shitters. most of them can't even activate their nps in the temple.
>>286702392It is. No asspull involved the dude lost fair and square but it was hard and had severe consequences for the side that won. Nof if and buts, just everyone doing their best and a satisfying conclusion reached.>>286702626Ozymandias fight was far more entertaining than some retard jobbing out to his own stupidity. Gil fighs are not to be taken seriously, dude is written like a comedy.
>>286702986Ozymandias' fights are even more boring and less dynamic than Gilgamesh fights.>divine beasts that just chomp on you>poison>oh that didn't work? guess i'll just nike you>sits around the entire time because he's immortalOzymandias is boring as hell. There's no punishing scenario with him, and his personality doesn't really work as a detriment. You just need to overpower him. With Gilgamesh, there's the thrill of getting in close and catching him with his pants down because he does leave openings. That makes his fights more dynamic.
>>286702980It's just the Nasu effect. Once he's shown off something and put it out of the spotlight, he stops putting in effort to make them seem as powerful. Though, in this case, it's the sakura effect. she is far worse.
>>286702797>>286702980Enkidu lost to fucking Medb in FGO. It's not a serious work. Most shit happens off screen and unexplained.
>>286698492that's not what happens
>>286702986>It is. No asspull involved the dude lost fair and square but it was hard and had severe consequences for the side that won. Nof if and buts, just everyone doing their best and a satisfying conclusion reached.This is true.It is staggering how many cases you have of >OH THIS GUY IS SO POWERFUL BUT HE'S HOLDING BACKNot even a Gilgamesh thing. It's nearly every powerful villain Nasu writes. LB5 being by far the biggest offender. Fragments with Ozymandias was just a brawl where everyone used full power and there were consequences on both sides. No deus ex machina or bullshit needed.
>>286703075enkidu was willingly in the prison to help out gorgon. he was just chilling reading clay tablets and could have escaped at any time, as he demonstrated. then he masterminds a plan to defeat medb too. i'm not sure why but enkidu (and kingu) get written as keikaku characters a lot.
>>286703075>Enkidu lost to fucking Medb in FGOWhen does this happen?
>>286703105>It's nearly every powerful villain Nasu writesIt's just Nasu's habit of having the underdog win each time and breaking established rules to make it happen. Too many asspulls make story events feel unearned.
>>286703047Gilgamesh fights consist in him standing still and throwing shit. He didn't move a single leg in both of his Alcides fights. Didn't move an inch against Iskandar. In FSN he only moved against Saber because the dude was legit just playing with her letting her fight in close quarters only to start spamming once again every time Saber got the upper hand. Against Sakura he died standing at the same exact spot he was spamming. I don't think he moved an inch against Herakles in the VN either. Dude has only moved for Shirou and Lancelot and maybe Lancer in that offscreen fight we never saw.
>>286703136>IT DOESN'T COUNTYou see what's the issue here? Why would Enkidu need a plan involving cheese or whatever the fuck else to beat this jobber? He should be far above her.>>286703151Medb prison event.
>>286703237Because Enkidu had no specific beef with Medb, and was helping out Gorgon. Did you read the event? These are characters with personalities, not mindless bloodlusted powerlevel machines that just go and kill each other for no reason.
>>286703075That was a joke event, anon. Medb stomped everyone in her singularity. Even Quetz was her subordinate.
>>286703256He doesn't need a fucking plan he should be able to just end it when he wanted. Why would Enkidu need a plan to defeat fucking Medb?
>>286703289Because it's not Enkidu defeating Medb, it's the Chaldea crew who are after her. Enkidu just gives them a plan and chills in the prison because he has no personal objective other than looking after Gorgon (for Kingu).
>>286703151>>286703237>>286703256Enkidu wanted to destroy the prison. If beating Medb would do it, he would have. He says what happened. He got summoned. Medb thought he was supicious, then they jumped him. It wasn't a 1 vs 1. Though it didn't matter. Medb is invincible in her prison. Nobody could do shit to her.>Warden Medb:>This domain was built in the very center of my country, and given shape by the power of my authority alone. My rule is absolute...>Nero:>More to the point, it seems we cannot use our own powers here.Oda Nobunaga:>It seems this Prison Field thingy is draining our power.>Warden Medb:>Naturally, it also serves as a simple way to prevent prisoners from escaping.Why even bring this up if you're going to cut out all the context?
>>286703289Enkidu is conceptually weak to bitches and whores
>>286703263Whole FGO reads like a fucking gag. How, HOW is Vlad with always active Legend of Dracula jobbing out to random losers in the French Singularity? This is the dude that fought Karna, Achilles, Amakusa, Jeanne, Chiron and Atalanta AT THE SAME TIME almost oneshotting Achilles. Dude just loses to offscreen shenaningans in France without any sort of explanation.
>>286703350I don't see how you think any of this makes it better. It's fucking Medb, bro. Just Enuma Elish that shit.
>>286703431Yes, fucking Medb powered in her singularity and nerfing everyone to shit. Also has goddesses as her subjects. There's no shame in losing to that scenario.>Enuma Elishwhen your powers aren't working? Against Quetz, Gorgon, Doggo and her other bitches?Sounds like you're the one underestimating Medb. She's a whore and Nasu loves his whores.
>>286703459Yeah I must take the girl that died to cheese very seriously.
>>286703548She no-diff'd cheese in this event. Literally stomping your conceptual killer. More reason that she's built different.
>>286703431>just use the powers you can't use
>>286703388>VladDracula hadn't been written back when Jannu was alive, and despite being cursed with madness enhancement pretty much every hostile Servants in French could run damage control to a certain, which is why Jeanne could could kill Martha, a saint on the same caliber as her but buffed.So for Vlad he was simply filling his quota before letting himself be defeated.
>>286700840The becky Japanese high-school student vs the stacy German homunculus.
>>286703388LoD Vlad has all the vampire weakness tuned up to 111, which is how Amakusa can just one tap him with a rite. The servants were also wearing him down and eventually someone should point out Karna wields literal sunlight.
The difference between Ozy in Arcade and Ozy in Fragments is that Nasu wrote one and Sakurai wrote the other.
Jesus fucking Christ, some people are taking this powerlevel faggotry and obvious game gags VERY. DAMN. SERIOUSLY. How dare Nasu made my HEROES lose REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee
>>286704089Ayaka gf
My heroes?NeroRedmanTamamoGilgamesh
>>286704744alterabros...charliesisters...
>>286704715Why does she have a broken neck? Foreshadowing? >>286704744Redman is the heroest hero of the four. Girugameshu is a jobster even in game. King of Losers. Job of Jobbing. Victim of EMIYA. Victim of Seiba. Victim of Wormwhore. It was fun reading F/SN for the first time, route after route, watching Gil get absolutely BODIED by schoolgirls and boys.
>>286703388>almost oneshotting AchillesOn a retarded technicality because Higashide is a dumbass
>>286703384Doesn't Tsubaki and Tine go to the same school?
>>286706144Tsubaki is a born and raised magus, she's never been to school.
>>286693599>Even if he loses, he goes out strongI'd argue that Ozy went out too strong and it just makes his character annoying. There's such a thing as being "too strong to be interesting." Ozy's existence is an active detriment to a bunch of other characters and their legends.
>>286703180It fits his kingly disposition. Part of what makes his fights enjoyable is that he doesn't move an inch unless you make him. He's regal, haughty, arrogant, and firm in his disposition, but if you make him cede ground then he'll seethe and burn over it.
>>286703237>to beat this jobberWhy do you think of her as a jobber? Surely you didn't fall prey to hype and overlook the things the other character can do just because you like mudman that much.
>>286697276Those other things look cooler than OTR so I say they're stronger.
>>286700785>he did fineYou've never played Extella Link and it shows.Berserker Lancelot was not even a midboss. He was just fodder in the game.>got beaten up and brainwashed by Karl>Gawain can see through his For Someone's Glory NP>fought alongside Darius and jobbedEven Karl said afterwards it was expected that he'll job. It's fucking amusing.
>>286706557I think the main problem is that they gave him the entire pantheon's shit and every other pharaohs suck his dick for that, even his precedessors.
>>286706878That's Sakurai for you. She wants her own Gil so she ruined the whole Egyptian pantheon by saying Ozy has all of their powers.It makes Ozy look more retarded if he lost.
>>286702154Gilgamesh in canon beats Ozzy in prototype Literally Manaka brings back all the servants that died as alter versions of themselves in the next warWe don't know fully what happened but Ozzy wanted to fight Gilgamesh >Eight years later, a shadow of Rider is seen again as one of Manaka's Grail corrupted Servants, with the goal of crushing Gilgamesh.
>>286706909>Gilgamesh loses>The only reason he lost was arrogance >There's almost never been a loss where he was fully serious>Even his loss in FSF despite being serious against Alcidies, was all because of his carless arrogance earlier in the story before he was serious >Ozzy loses>He has no arrogance which means he was simply overpowered>And he has the powers of every divine spirit and heroic spirit in Egypt rolled into one, times twenty, and every temple, and every authority>Which means all of Egypt jobbed at the same time>They all lost by him losing >Every time he looks back it means all of Egypt has lost
>>286706874I am proud that I did not play Extella Link.
>>286675290According to Nasu's logic, all berserkers should have been Norse just like all assassins are muslim.>Berserker is a term derived from Old Norse, referring to, and likely meaning bear-shirt (berserkr), describing elite Viking-age warriors who fought with a, frenzied, animal-like rage, often wearing bear or wolf skins. These warriors, associated with the god Odin, were known for their, immunity to pain and, extreme ferocity in, battle
>>286706942The anon's point isn't about strength, but display. Ozy really did get one of the best possible defeats for a servant. If not the best. Nearly the whole war ganged up on him, and there were severe consequences. That's hard to disagree with
>>286707416And Sakurai blatantly created Ozzy as "Egyptian Gilgamesh"In FGO Sakurai often has Gilgamesh and Ozzy comparing themselves with each other, acting the exact same as each other, both humble bragging at each other Sakurai having Ozy want to fight Gilgamesh in prototype It's obvious how badly Sakurai wants to compare themOzzy exists as Sakurai's version of Gilgamesh, without any of the flaws
>>286706874Gilgamesh in that same game btw.
>>286700673
>>286707064What the hell are you talking about? Arthur had half of Excalibur's seals to face Ozzy, and even then he needed help from Arash's NP and other things. Ozzy, unlike Giljob, was a real threat.
>>286700673This Shirou beat Angelica with Gil card who is canically stronger than the King of Jobbers and survived the same exact attack UBW Gil lost his arm to btw.
>>286707538How did Karl beat Gilgamesh?
>>286707692The same way he beat Lancelot and Karna and Scathach. Offscreen.
>>286707645Ozzy has lost like six times now over the years, whenever he loses he brings everyone down with him exactly because he has no flaws, there are no reasonable reasons he can lose because he isnt arrogant and has no personality flaws at all, therefore whenever he loses it's basically all of Egypt losing at the same timeHe jobbed badly against Lion King, he sacrificed her entire spirit core not even to damage her, but just to slightly break her barrier
>>286707750 >>286707750 >>286707750
>>286707717Also he used a holy grail to turn himself into Amun Ra which is I'd like 10x stronger, only to get beaten by Sanzang
>>286707538>>286707692>>286707713Confirmed a sneak attack by Karl himself.And unlike Lancelot or Scathach, he can't be brainwashed.Karl even expected Gil to break out sooner or later.Extella Link exposed Berserker Lancelot as literal fodder. Even Caster Gilles is more important.
>>286707717>>286707774Don't forget he was scared shitless of King Hassan since he got one-shotted by him. Only reason he was alive was due to his NP.Ozy also has a Grail in the Singularity so his losses to Sanzang is even more embarassing.
>>286707671>Shirou beat AngelicaDid you even watch the Movie? Shirou has infinite mana and stil lost with UBW up. This makes Archer look fucking weak despite having the counter to GoB since he and Shirou were basically 100% compatible.He needed to team up with Kuro to beat her In Drei.
>>286708072>sneak attackNowhere in that shit you posted even implies such a thing.
>>286707717Please. You’re not fooling anyone who’s read Camelot. King Leon was superior to any Top Servant at the time, and yet Ozy agreed to a ceasefire with her kingdom until Chaldea showed up asking for help. The only one who could defeat her on their own was a Grand Servant. To say that he sacrificed his core to break a barrier, knowing that barrier emitted the same light as Excalibur and had an effect similar to Mashu’s Lord Camelot, who is capable of withstanding Goetia’s Ars Almadel Salomonis, already speaks to his feat on its own.>>286707774As I said, they’re not fooling anyone who’s read Camelot. Ozzy was visited by Chaldea, who asked for his help. He fought them to test them.>>286708137King Hassan was above everyone in Camelot, including King Leon. He can one-shot any of your favorite top-tier Servants, just as he did with Ereshkigal in her own underworld, so he’s another bad example.The fact is very simple, and you can’t deny it. To defeat him, it took Excalibur, several unsealed seals, Arash’s NP, which was able to stop King Leon’s Rhongomyniad, three Command Seals, and other things.
>>286708340>"His complacency let us exploit him"I don't know why I'm bothering explaining basic English to you, Jetspic.
>>286708482>Rhongo is equal to or stronger than Lord CamelotFull retard
>>286708482He fought Chaldea and lost.Ozy lost to fucking shadow servants despite having infinite mana from the Grail and a literal Demon Pillar in him.
>>286707531Imagine getting your HERO brutally MOGGED by a fuckin Coldsteel-tier fanfiction OC.
>>286708972Its not coldsteel, its just Blonichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fGFjoeyc6I
>>286707717Imagine losing to fucking SIMBA. Couldn't be me!
>>286708849He stopped it from being a demon pillar by giving it back its original name, turning Amon into Amun Ra. The demon pillars are all based off various powerful demons or divine spirits from other religions that got turned into mere demons after Christianity took over. Ozy restored Amon into a true divine spirit and then fused with it>Amun-Ra was the supreme state deity of ancient Egypt, formed by merging the Theban hidden creator god Amun with the sun god Ra during the New Kingdom. As "King of the Gods," he represented invisible life force (Amun) and visible solar power (Ra). He was a patron of pharaohs, worshipped at Karnak.
>>286708482Who the fuck is King Leon?If you mean Lion King Rhongo, then she has backup from all her knights to fight against Ozy which is why he's scared of her and she lost to Human Bedi.
>>286709103Ozy never showed any intention of fighting her; he stated that there was no reason to fight because, regardless of the outcome, the Incineration would proceed as planned. The only thing he was afraid of was King Hassan, which is why he never left his pyramid.
>>286709103The Knights and Rhongo feared taking on Ozzy, he was in the singularity before them and they never had a direct combat with him. Because when he's summoned he's summoned with all of Egypt, and within his temple he can't be killed. He was too strong for them all so they basically adopted an "ignore him" policy for now.Ozzymandias meanwhile was originally waging war until he met the ire of King Hassan, and Ozzy lost his head. After that point Ozi sat in his temple not crossing any lines and not pushing any waves.All three parties were more or less at a standstill unable to make a move against the others. The party with the most movement was the hassans, but slowly they were all being killed off, Intoxicating Smoke Hassan despite being one of the strongest was killed shortly before Camelot really started by Tristan. King Hassan also won't make a move without the bells.
