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Motivation Episode
Last Episode: >>32609090
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>>32611240
First for Asuka is best girl.
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M or F
Is this true?
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>>32611250
F, yeah lowkey
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>>32611250
F
Pretty much, yeah.
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Women, is this accurate?
What's it missing?
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>>32611256
accurate, i usually keep my shirt on if nothing else though
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>>32611256
I personally don't take off my bra before going to bed, but that's because my breasts are small enough for me to not need a wired one. Also, I don't sleep in my underwear, but wearing a comfy pair of pants and shirt.
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>>32611263
>my breasts are small enough for me to not need a wired one
Why wear a bra at all then?
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>>32611263
same here
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>>32611256
my cats not pictured
>>32611258
for me it's the other way around
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>>32611266
I don't want my nipples to show, and, despite being small, my breasts would still jiggle a bit without a bra. So, modesty concerns.
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>>32611270
>my breasts would still jiggle a bit without a bra
small boobs that still have jiggle in them are hot as fuck
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>>32611240
>atoga.jpg
Why does he always change the filename?
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>>32611272
Autism, probably
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At what point does sex stop being vanilla?
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>>32611272
I like being organized
>>32611274
I concur
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A question for boys and girls.
Do you pee while taking a shower?
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>>32611275
depends on who you ask but for me its when >>32611275
he does anything outside of being gentle and praise. (F), i a really vanilla person though
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>>32611277
Don't worry, you're my favorite /atoga/ OP. No faggy rules, no FAQ, just nice pics.
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>>32611277
>>32611256
>>32611250
Is that you as well?
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>>32611275
when it becomes something that you can't challenge or abstain from.
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>>32611279
F, yes
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>>32611279
f, yes
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>>32611279
F
No.
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Femanons, do you like sitting on a man's lap naked while he slowly strokes your arm like a cat?
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>>32611250
Male
No, if I say I want someone to love me I get told either to stop being entitled, or to stop wanting it and then it will come to me
I've seen lots of girls pull the same thing when some guys are into them but they want a different guy so that part rings true to a point, I don't know what the guys are like though so idk if they're right to ignore them or not
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Men, do you self-lubricate from the ass with enough stimulation?
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>>32611279
M, yes. It's going down a fucking drain. As long as you aren't pissing on your body or feet this shouldn't be an issue.
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>>32611290
not really desu
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>>32611282
>nice pics
Eh, I think it's the same anon that often posts wojak garbage.
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>>32611292
Not exactly, but if you repeatedly push something up there eventually it'll get coated in the stuff that's up there so you can make a bit of progress slowly
Usually though I just spit on anything I'm putting up there, or rarely I'll use actual lube
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>>32611279
F
If necessary, but generally I pee right before getting in the shower so it's not an issue
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>>32611279
M
Yes, but I will follow it with some soap ASAP

>>32611286
>>32611288
Based
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>>32611299
So hypothetically speaking, if you had steamy sex with a guy and you were getting penetrated, would you not automatically self lubricate? Like I'm talking about your body secreting oils and lubricants in the rectum.
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>>32611292
Not how it works, so no.
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>>32611303
Like I said there's naturally like some kinda mucus coating the insides up there but it doesn't increase with stimulation. So if a cute guy was penetrating me from behind it would be a bit of a challenge without some kind of external lubricant. It could still be done though
Imo the more efficient and fun way would be to stimulate his penis until it's leaking precum, and use that as lubricant
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>>32611286
>>32611288
That’s hot
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why are zoomers girl so allergic to showing some skin? I'm going on dates with this 22 y/o ( I'm 30) and she always wears a baggy shirt, jeans and Dr Martens. She has a pretty face and pretty long blonde hair but would it really be that hard not to dress like a drug dealer from the 90s? It is what is but why not show some femininty. What gives?
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>>32611308
because if we do show skin we get labeled as sluts and told that we're "asking for it," its also likely a personal style choice.
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Is the world colder to you as a man then it would be if you were a woman?

There's times I feel like this as a 6'2" 24 year old man who does Judo and boxing, almost like I'm either invisible or seen as a danger by default

Do femanons agree with this take?
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>>32611308
Can’t wait til women start wearing nuns habits or burkas
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>>32611308
>she always wears a baggy shirt, jeans and Dr Martens
This is also affecting the selection of clothes at stores. You don't know how hard it is nowadays for a thin woman to find a well-fitting shirt. Even XS blouses are wide on me.
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>>32611309
right but would you wear that when going on dates with a guy? isn't that seen as low key insulting like putting no effort in to appear feminine? or is that just a generation gap thing


>>32611311
yeah we're halfway there
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>>32611306
Ah that makes sense.
>>32611308
Maybe because baggy clothes are comfy and make me feel fuzzy and protected against le elements.

Also anon it's January, unless you live in the south, it's not skin-showing season right now.
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>>32611311
>burkas
This reminds me of a theory of mine: The reason why so many feminists support Islam is because if every woman were to wear a burka, they'd no longer have to feel jealous of prettier girls. Plus, most women would stop caring about their appearance at all, since no one sees them anyway. There's a reason why most muslim women, especially the veiled ones, are chubby and ill-groomed.
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>>32611313
i feel like youre just mad that you dont see tits. its likely a generation gap thing and if her dressing modestly makes you uncomfortable you shouldnt be seeing her.
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Girls: How old are you and how much of an age gap would you be fine with? i.e max amount older for you boyfriend is 5 years or 10 years or something etc
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>>32611317
18
7 years
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>>32611317
im 24, id be fine with a 5 year age gap max.
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>>32611310
I can't find it right now but there is a longpost from a transman on Tumblr about how cold and isolating being a man is. It's the most empathy I've seen anyone feel for men and I tear up almost every time I read it because it's so true, and I wish it wasn't. I've seen other transmen say the same sentiment afterwards too. It's hard to put into words how isolating it is and how different it can be from isolation as a woman. As a woman you can get a lot of attention but most of it is likely not attention you want. As a man, you get none, screaming into the void, as if you're in a vacuum
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>>32611282
Thanks, I appreciate it
>>32611297
The last "wojak" I posted was the wojak marrying the femcel with her hands tied up
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>>32611320
nta but thats a pretty small gap for your age.
there a particular reason?
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>>32611240
I'm an oldfag, m. Just started dating after divorce. Have dated chicks from 25 to 45 and hung out with a ton more from a wide range of socioeconomic and cultural background. All that any of them care about or talk about is sex.... Is this the norm. It's making me check out of dating
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>>32611319
Shit, coming up on 25, this will be my last chance to date an 18 year old!

So, tell me about yourself femanon? I write stories for a living
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Girls and Boys
Do you like big crowds?
Why or why not?
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>>32611316
it doesn't make me uncomfortable it just made me feel a little insulted at first as if she was sending subliminal hints that she didn't care to dress up a little. she can wear what she wants obviously it just odd to me that you would hide your beauty ( and she is beautiful) going on dates dressing like a boy

>>32611314
I live in yurop but point taken. it's pretty chilly atm
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>>32611327
M
Completely indifferent about crowds
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>>32611327
Boy
No I get so anxious in them. I will go home if there's a crowd in a store or something
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>>32611323
Just a preference
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>>32611327
F
No, they're too loud and cramped. I hate that.
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>>32611326
It's not your last chance bro, I was still seeing some when I was 27. It was mostly because they were coomers and wanted some FWB fun but that suited me fine.
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>>32611328
thats just her preference. literally talk to her about it if it bothers you that much
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>>32611327
F, not a huge fan, too many people
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>>32611334
nah, I'm not trying to manipulate her out of her preferences. maybe she dresses modestly because she doesn't want the attention to be on her body. idk it's her choice and not my place to comment. I was just wondering because it's a new thing to me
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where to find a girl? What do women do besides studying/working?
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>>32611250
M, sometimes
>>32611279
duh
>>32611292
not how that works
>>32611327
no, too loud
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>>32611338
>What do women do besides studying/working?
Shitpost.
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hello this dating spreadsheetanon from about month ago. idk if anyone remembers me posting on here but I'm back for a journal entry and need some advice if anyone cares to listen
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>>32611342
shoot
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>>32611308
Salty millenial whining that he doesn't get to see tits. It's just a style thing bro you're so out of touch
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>>32611342
You had the spreadsheet where you gave scores to guys based on jobs and height and stuff right
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>>32611272
attentionwhoring
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Women, thank you for cleavage.
That is all.
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>>32611250
M
Yes, unequivocally
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>>32611317
27, 5 years younger, 2 years older
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>>32611367
There's some kind of trauma story isn't there
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>>32611279
M
No, this violates the golden rule.
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>>32611327
f, no I'm autistic and have social anxiety
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>>32611370
How can i meet you????WHERE??
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>>32611368
umm yes, what gave it away?
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I saw this beautiful couple the other day. like movie star beautiful. guy was tall with the face of a nazi statue and the girl petite with blonde hair and perfect features really. I was legitimately awed and since then I've felt this deep pit in my stomach

is it jealousy? I'm happy for them tbf and don't feel angry just dread. maybe more a feeling of unworthiness
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>>32611376
why do you want an autistic girlfriend
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>>32611279
Wow /atoga/ is full of subhuman degenerates and looks like the place you wouldn't get human advice from

btw M, no
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>>32611384
>autistic girlfriend
What is this in practice?
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>>32611380
I was at a restaurant and saw a very pretty girl dining with this really fat basement dweller type once. The full neckbeard, shitty pony tail etc. and it was definitely a date.
All I could think was "how?" and "if this guy can do it, why can't it?"

Seeing shit like that gets to you.
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>>32611256
Pissing in the shower apparently
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>>32611389
Could've easily been an escort
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>>32611389
huh I wonder wich situation of the two is worse. I think yours in a sense. it's like ecountering someone who won the lottery so you keep on gambling despite being dead broke

mean was more a feeling of existential dread I think. like there are actually couples out there like that. eating, kissing, sleeping together. man
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>>32611391
Yeah she probably paid the fattie since he was out of her league
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>>32611394
offtopic
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>>32611395
not really, im asking anyone m or f that knows the how
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>>32611394
Anon, please get some therapy, or go to church.
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>>32611399
oh yea sure therapy and church will cure my incurable illness that makes me be in pain 24/7
it has been 15 years man, im tired
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>>32611338
Naziism seems to be a bit of an ick to most women
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>>32611394
M
This is insulting to ask, as if people here are desperate enough to outcompete you by making you kill yourself. Then again I don't visit regularly so maybe that's how the shower-pissers herebare. Anyhow u r not relevant enough to have effort wasted on giving you suicide advice, work on your grandiose drama narcissism
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>>32611310
Canon Samus needs to go back to being 6'3"
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>>32611386
umm kind but bad sensory and social issues. struggles going out and only has 2 friends
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>>32611401
yea...but if you are gigachad....
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>>32611400
Do the meds not help much?
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>>32611404
Thats only pluses
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>>32611310
>>32611321

only a small % of men are given the amount of automatic affection and adoration and (unwanted) sexual attention that the average women gets. that's just how it is

with women it's not all peaches and roses too by the way. that constant attention only lasts through their reprodutive phase. once they're older the world becomes a lot colder to them as well. difference being is that they have more social connections to fall back on

I always use this example.a couple in my social group broke up. the girl was constantly cared for by her friends. sleepovers, helping with chores, dragging her out of the house. they guy got the occasional 'yo what's up bro' thing from his friends and that was that
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>>32611256
>doesn't take off her panties as well
cringe
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M
Yes because I’m biologically wired to only be turned on by someone visually hot
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>>32611352
Yes that's me.
Ended up meeting three of them irl. The rest are on pause because it's too hard to maintain conversations with that many people and arrange times to meet them. The ones I met are all engineers. One is in finance, one software and one civil. So far I've rejected the finance dude because although he is rich, I found him to be a bit desperate and too intellectual. He is begging for a second date though so maybe I will give it another chance... Civil engineer was very nice and cute but timid. Software I'm obsessed with. He's arranged a second date but takes up to 8 hours to respond to my messages, so I match the time in my responses. Do men do this intentionally to show that they are not desperate? Or is it a sign he's not that interested? Or is he just busy? I don't mind the response time but also don't like feeling like second choice.
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>>32611421
>but also don't like feeling like second choice.
If he's your favorite then yes you do.
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>>32611421
Personally I will usually not respond to personal stuff until after work. Maybe that's what he's doing too?
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>>32611308
Modesty is a good thing. Kys, coomer
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>>32611409
Not that anon but I'm noticing that this is no longer the case. Pharmacopers and corps pushed this stuff so hard they are all experiencing burnouts. Antidepressants and anything for focus or energy is being heavily abused. Too little and they panic, too much and they treat that as normal and continue to overindulge until their thresholds for resistance increases.
Painkillers for a headache is one thing to the rest of us. Maybe once a week for a headache, or something minor. These guys take them HOURLY and then wonder why they have stomach ulcers.
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>>32611410
mm, maybe not when I'm having meltdowns
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>>32611421
how can he be too intellectual? I've picked op women debating about who's the best wagner interpreter solti or karajan ( it's solti) despite them not knowing a single note. playing some violin for them etc. it's more about the dilevery and lack of shame than the topic itself I think
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>>32611421
>she likes the guy who pays her the least attention
Please keep us posted on your exploits. I have a feeling this is going to be hilarious.

Also,
>but also don't like feeling like second choice.
You're the one who is literally ranking men on a spreadsheet.
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>>32611416
Yep
What's extra frustrating to me about it though as a man is that other men perpetuate this cycle. I do my best to treat my guy friends with this same care that women get but there's no effort to return it and they just take it for granted. Men typically don't care about support fron other men
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>>32611421
How many dates do you like to go on before sleeping with someone?
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>>32611279
M
piss doesn't belong in the grey water
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>>32611310
>>32611326
without a doubt one of the most obnoxious, faggot posters in these threads.
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>>32611436
>You're the one who is literally ranking men on a spreadsheet.
NTA. But women are the choosers. It sucks, but that's how it is.
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>>32611437
men dig their own graves that way. I know toxic masculinity is a very loaded phrase but this to me is a very destructive aspect of modern masculinity. a lack of healthy competitiveness and support
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>>32611440
He's not so bad
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I noticed that when I meet new people I end up talking about myself most of the time. I have zero urge to ask them about themselves.
How do I become interested in others?
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>>32611437
because society requires men who can take shit, and men need to know that their friends and brothers can take shit
clueless retarded faggots who think men need to socialize more like girls and all their problems will vanish are fucking embarrassing.
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>>32611427
how are you gonna call me a coomer when I'm fucking her? it just threw me off a little
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>>32611442
Choosing is one thing. Being that ruthless about it is another. She's minmaxing relationships.
It's her right to do it, of course. But it's a bit silly to complain about feeling like the "second choice" while simultaneously dating multiple men and filling out a spreadsheet.
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>>32611448
terrible mindset. this is the reason young men commit 4x more suicide than women. are the vast majority of homeles people and people with addiction issues etc etc etc

during the middle ages at the even before a battle men would often cry together. yet in the morning they still went to war and risked everything. brotherhood and support have always been an innate part of the masculine experience
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>>32611452
>before a battle men would often cry together.
What gender studies journal did you pull this one from?
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>>32611450
It is a bit blackpilling, ngl.
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>>32611424
You may be right, the fact that he is not desperate for me is a turn on unfortunately. My date with him was my favorite. We didn't run out of things to talk about for hours, he genuinely laughed at my jokes, took me to a nice restaurant, gave me compliments and said he'd like to see me again. He also has cool interests and a nice smile.
>>32611425
I'm thinking he just has a life and hobbies that he needs to attend to...
>>32611432
Just a massive turn off for a guy to be dropping sociology and philosophy terms on a first date. I don't know what they mean and it doesn't mean I'm stupid. It's not conducive to a back and forth conversation and feels more like a showing-off-my-superiority competition.
>>32611436
I sure will keep you posted, my life feels like one big shitpost sometimes
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>>32611454
bard stories. medieval court culture was all about the refined emotions of men. women were seen as the less emotionally refined gender. your idea of masculinity is a victorian construct
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>>32611456
How would you rate your looks?
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>>32611438
Haven't even thought of sleeping with these guys, I'm afraid. I have no idea of a number. Would prefer to be boyfriend and girlfriend before sleeping with them at all.
>>32611450
Spreadsheet was moreso to help me make rational decisions about who I invest my time in meeting irl and accepting conversations with online, since I'm often catastrophically swayed my emotions. I also have a lot of trouble rejecting people and sometimes go on dates because I feel bad or just want to be nice.
>>32611455
Sorry! If it makes you feel better I've spent thousands of dollars of cosmetic procedures to increase my value in the dating market
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>>32611452
>this is the reason young men...
No, it isn't. The reason this happens to men is because they have zero meaning or autonomy in their modern lives.
>brotherhood and support
Which comes from being in shit situations with each other, being unified in a common goal, not having group therapy sessions with your boyfriends. You're obviously a giddy little simp who still has the "women are wonderful" effect etched into his faggot brain, but if you seriously think looking towards female socialization and friendship for solutions is actually a good idea, you are literally retarded.
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>>32611447
M
Find people that talk about themselves a bit more than they ask about you
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>>32611458
flamboyant french sissies loved to cry, norsemen were expected never to do so.
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>>32611443
I agree, but I don't know how to break the cycle at this point. I wish I was born in a different reality where people were more supportive to both genders
>>32611448
What is your definition of socializing like girls? Any amount of support?
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>>32611463
I'm not talking about group therapy session tho. I'm talking about taking your bro out when he's struggeling and hitting the town. Showing support in masculine ways. If he wants to open up that's good and you listen, if he doesn't that's good too but you've shown brotherhood in that moment
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>>32611462
>Sorry!
There's no need to be. I just wish nature was a bit less harsh.
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Hey remember when I asked about how do people decide what to do next? I ended up deciding to sleep on the floor for like 4 hours, my life is an absolute wreck lmfao.
I don't know if I should just build my bed or grab some coffee and just start doing work (its 5am here)
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>>32611460
Body 9/10 (gym for years and fake bewbs), face 6.5/10 no makeup, solid 8/10 makeup. Trying to be objective, I am very hard on myself and have low self esteem
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>>32611466
>norsemen were expected never to do so.
I think that movie was underrated
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>>32611471
Appreciate your honest assessment
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>>32611466
yet the norse immediately assimilated into normans when they were exposed to french culture. funny how that works. there's nothing wrong with masculine crying
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Follow up question from evil spreadsheet bitchanon, what would you love to see a girl wear on the first date?
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>>32611471
>gym bunny
>fake tits
>rates herself this highly but claims to have low self esteem
Fucking bimbo cunt
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>>32611443
the problem isn't "too much masculinity" and "men are too stupid to see they're destroying themselves!!!!", it's that we live in an unnatural, atomized society.
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>>32611478
I don't give a shit as long as it's not anything that draws too much attention to herself, like being practically naked or wearing some stupid high fashion shit.
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>>32611462
I'm mostly just poking fun at you.
The only thing I actually take issue with is the "second choice" bit. That's the way of dating that you're setting yourself up for.
It's very reasonable to have this sort of structure to hedge against the risks you know about yourself. That part is fine. But I don't think any of these guys would be thrilled to know the details, and some of them might consider it a dealbreaker in itself.

>I also have a lot of trouble rejecting people and sometimes go on dates because I feel bad or just want to be nice.
Please don't do this. This helps nobody besides those who would take advantage of you.
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>>32611479
She's going to get taken on an expensive date while your incel ass in at home jerking off
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>>32611416
>>32611437
>>32611443
Men and women are not the same, and pretending they are is stupid.
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>>32611479
Hehe
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>>32611478
Depends more on the destination than anything
Personally I love casual clothes, they make me feel at ease and I think girls are very pretty when they look comfy
I am not a normal guy though
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>>32611480
both can be true. it's never a matter of 'too much masculinity' but masculinity channeled into restrictive forms. I'm not saying you should go cry to your friends when you flunk an exam, but keeping yourself trapped in pseudo-stoic solitude is terrible too. escpecially in an atomized society
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>>32611484
I probably make more money than most of the guys she's going on about, and I quit jerking off months ago.
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>>32611485
That has nothing to do with what we said
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>>32611477
yeah literally every norseman settled in northern neustria bro great argument
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>>32611478
>evil spreadsheet bitchanon
Nobody said that, they even said you didn't need to be apologetic, and that's it's your right to be choosy
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>>32611492
You're complaining because men don't behave the same way women do and acting like that's a problem. It's not. Men don't want their friends to treat them like women's friends do. They don't want to sit around and piss and moan about their problems, because it doesn't help them.
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>>32611490
"masculine" and "feminine" require "restrictive" norms. This boomer mindset of "just b urself cast off all societal restrictions" is the opposite of good advice - you should be able to see what kind of society that bought about,
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>>32611491
>I quit jerking off months ago.
Congrats on that at least.
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>>32611497
literally this. The entire discussion just stems from "wow... men sure are stupid, all their problems would vanish if they behaved more like us!"
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>>32611493
that's not what I said tho. I said those that were exposed to french culture assimilated quickly
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>>32611478
What do you do for work, femanon?
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>>32611478
Something modest and comfortable for her. But more generally, I'd want her to wear what comes to mind for her--not to impress me, but what she'd want to show a date.

Clothes don't do much for me in themselves, but they can tell me at a glance if I'm not going to get along with a woman. If she goes for exactly the style I like, great. If she shows up in a "sexy" outfit and heavy makeup, she's not the kind of woman I'm looking for, and neither am I the kind of guy best for her.
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>>32611481
Okay noted - I've been making an effort to not show too much boob or leg.
>>32611483
I would never let any of these guys that I am dating/meeting multiple guys at the same time. I would never tell a guy about my dating history in detail. It's not cute and I find it disrespectful. Finance bro told me the full breakdown of all his exes, names, jobs and all.
>>32611489
I see, so not uncomfortable or trying to hard.
>>32611491
I hope you find someone who loves you and makes you happy if that's what you're looking for
>>32611495
Thanks for your kindness
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>>32611477
>there's nothing wrong with masculine crying
NTA. It's not morally wrong imo, but it's such a massive turn off for women that I'd never advocate a straight guy doing it unless in private.
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>>32611497
I'm a man you fucking ignoramus I was talking about supporting my male friends, that doesn't mean sitting around and pissing and moaning that means being there for them and spending time with them doing stuff they like and focusing on them even if they don't want to talk about the issues. And sometimes they do want to talk about them, and I'm there for that too. You have such a binary way of thinking and that rigidity is what's driving the male suicide rate to skyrocket
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>>32611471
>breast implants
>low self-esteem
Iconic duo strikes again
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>>32611498
the cultural failure of our society is multifaceted. some social cohesion should be enforced to maintain a stable society, but that doesn't mean we can't question wider gender roles ( which are extremely fluid by the way — I refer back to french medieval court culture, greeks and romans. who all had a strong and sensitive idea of masculinity. well the romans less so during the republic era but I digress)
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>>32611516
>I want strong social cohesion for a stable society
>I also want to undermine these underpinnings constantly and chip away at them
You can't have both
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>>32611505
Something healthcare related. I make about 180k a year. Would be nice if a guy made the same or more but not essential. I am also mid 20s so don't expect guys under thirty to be there yet. I work hard and I'm blessed with my job!
>>32611515
They did resolve it like 10%
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>>32611516
>which are extremely fluid by the way — I refer back to french medieval court culture, greeks and romans.
society's maladaptions aren't universal truth adaptations
thx for reminding me 99.99% of internet discussions are abysmal dogshit. time to quit kekchan for another few days until I'm amnesiac again
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>>32611509
>I see, so not uncomfortable or trying to hard.
Yeah, that's what I like on a first date, just be comfortable and be yourself. Of course that's assuming you aren't going to a fancy restaurant or something. If you're just going to a movie or on a walk then yes comfort is best
Okay I've helped you now plz help me get a gf
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>>32611509
What did you order on your date with software Chad?
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>>32611507
Interesting point about the heavy makeup. From a mans perspective, what constitutes that? Bright lipstick? Or heavy face makeup? Civil engineer dude took me swimming on the first date so had to use the tactical waterproof shit (only half joking)
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>>32611240
Lots of terrible people have friends, accolades, and stuff. If I know I'm a bad person, why shouldn't I feel bad?
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>>32611525
Damn, doc.
>so don't expect guys under thirty to be there yet.
Most guys will never make that amount of money at any point in their lives
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>>32611519
I think we as menhave the strength to redefine ourselves and reclaim our masculinity wihout it having to be as restrictive as before. would you call alexander the great weak for crying publicy and mourning his best friend? grant when he cried over lincon's body? napoleon? all great men had deep and emotional brotherhood bonds with fellow men
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>>32611525
>Barbie doctor
That's pretty hot 2bh
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>>32611530
How can I help anon? If you want my brutal advice go gym, get money, take care of your teeth, get good dating profile pictures that make you look like you have friends
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>>32611513
Focusing on yourself and your problems makes you depressed. You solve your problems and improve your mood and outlook by actually getting things done and solving your problems. What's driving male suicides is that it feels like society has largely left men behind. Women get priority in most things, even if it's only in subtle ways, and the men of today will almost certainly end up making less money, being less successful with relationships, having less friends, and having less children than their fathers and grandfathers did. These things together lead a lot of men to feel like their life has no purpose, and that drives up suicide rates.

Yes, it's a good thing for men to have friends and for them to do stuff with their friends, but when the stuff they're doing is sitting around and commiserating or trying to have group therapy sessions, that's not necessarily the case.
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>>32611526
maladaptions? your idea of masculinity is a vicotrian construct. it's not some innate part of us as men in an existential sense
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>>32611509
Have you heard of Female Dating Strategy over on reddit?
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>>32611540
>get good dating profile pictures that make you look like you have friends
Is this what I've been missing this whole time
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>>32611538
Crying because your friend and President had the back of his head blown open by an assassin is not the same as weeping and wailing because you got rejected when you asked a girl out, or because you had an argument with your gf.
Men have been this way for millennia, and leaving aside the lack of benefit from changing it, what makes you think we could even do so without it being detrimental to men and to society?
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>Tara Babcock found /atoga/
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>>32611533
Oh gosh I was so enamoured I didn't even pay attention to the menu. It was a seafood restaurant so they brought out mussels, oysters, sashimi etc. Could barley eat from the nervousness though *-*
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>>32611534
> From a mans perspective, what constitutes that?
Men's opinions vary wildly. And most of the men who have issues with heavy makeup (to the point of weighing it against you) would probably have issues with breast implants, too.
Personally, if I can tell she's wearing makeup, it's too much. Lots of foundation, bright lipstick, weird patterns/colors of eyeshadow, etc.

>Civil engineer dude took me swimming on the first date
He's guaranteed to think very differently from me, then. Don't worry about it. Even if he did think like me, that's not a reason to beat yourself up over expressing yourself in a way that makes you feel comfortable. It's how you meet someone who resonates with you.
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>>32611552
I hope he took care of the bill like a gentleman.
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>>32611549
alexander the great mourned for months and constructed monuments when hephaestion died

we're mostly in agreement tho. I'm not advocating for weakness, I'm advocating for more sensitve and supportive brotherhood ties between men. like the great men of old
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>>32611547
I have not I will check it out
>>32611548
I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture, even if everything else about him is perfect. Even a family picture is fine
>>32611551
I'm a stealth bimbo ;)
>>32611553
Ha yeah haven't had the implant conversation with anyone yet. I do feel like too much makeup on the first date is counterproductive. I also have no makeup pictures on my dating profile so they can see the real me lol
>>32611555
Of course!
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>>32611538
You are thinking way too deeply about something that doesn't matter at all.
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>>32611555
OP probably makes more than he does unless she's in the bay area or something.
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>>32611556
>DDD or bigger
Anon, we have a 34I boob queen ITT
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>>32611557
You're a moron, anon, and I'm not going to continue to entertain your moronic "arguments".
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>>32611558
>I have not I will check it out
Don't listen to them unless you want to sabotage your relationships with everyone but sociopaths.
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>>32611509
>I hope you find someone who loves you and makes you happy
Why say things you don't mean? You don't give a shit about me.
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>>32611559
I care about my fellow men. sometimes it pains me to see our current state compared to what we were before and we shaped the world
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>>32611560
>OP probably makes more than he does
It doesn't matter. She should be treated like a lady
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>>32611558
>I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture, even if everything else about him is perfect. Even a family picture is fine
I guess I need to make friends then...is one other person acceptable or do I need more?
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>>32611559
He just wants people to stop making fun of him for crying like a little bitch
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>>32611562
the ad hominem is the swan song of the loser anon
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>>32611538
The problem with your examples is that all these men lived in societies that were worth living in, we are living in current day Weimar Republic where people are so warped by hedonism that they have degenerated to being unbearable goblins.
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>>32611557
That's gay.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a few more cans of beer to finish on my own before the sun rises.
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>>32611558
>I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture
I hate women so much.
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>>32611562
She kind of owned you, anon. And I'm more in agreement with you on this.
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>>32611570
This is somehow an even worse argument than any of your previous arguments.
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>>32611471
>Body 9/10 (gym for years and fake bewbs)
sorry sis but you can't have a 9/10 body with fake tits. fake tits never look good, don't bother trying to challenge that either, because that is a fact.
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>>32611516
>I refer back to french medieval court culture, greeks and romans. who all had a strong and sensitive idea of masculinity
Yet all these men idealized being the best at LITERALLY KILLING PEOPLE lmao, their view on masculinity was even more "TOXIC" than anything you can point to today. "Men can't cry" isn't actually crux of the argument here.
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>>32611575
>She
Didn't that poster (you) claim to be a man though?
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>>32611571
>wanting to live in France at any point in time for any reason
bro, why?
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>>32611576
it's not an arugment but an observation

>>32611571
this is a good point however. but we have to start somewhere or our culture will die out with a whimper
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>>32611558
>I'm a stealth bimbo ;)
Are you a Blondie?
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>>32611580
Napoleonic France was... Okay... There was a lot more social mobility under Napoleon as certain restrictions on peasants and non-noble merchants were lifted but I get where you're coming from, it wasn't a very stable time in France's history.
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>>32611564
OH nevermind then. No offence but I don't take dating advice from single women because they are single. That's why I'm here to extract as much information from you lads as possible.
>>32611565
I hope that everyone can be happy in their own way.
>>32611568
One is fine. It also shows me that you are not a bot/catfish.
>>32611577
Fair enough! That's okay with me
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>>32611558
>I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture, even if everything else about him is perfect. Even a family picture is fine
Does a group photo in an MMO count? Even at family events I'm always the photographer because I'm the only one that owns/knows how to use a camera
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>>32611581
An observation that you posted to make an argument
Stop being such a faggot, holy shit
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>>32611479
>>gym bunny
>>fake tits
I dislike the latter, but what's wrong with the former?
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>>32611579
Not sure
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>>32611556
>100% AA or smaller
Heh.
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>>32611578
right, and that's normal for men. dying for loyality to an ideal is a masculine ideal. my only point is that strength and sensitivity shoudln't be opposing concepts. because the second fosters the bonds that men get the first from
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>>32611588
That along with everything else tells me she focuses almost exclusively on her appearance.
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>>32611582
Nope!
>>32611586
Could be cute if you are trying to attract a girl who has similar hobbies to you
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>>32611594
I have hobbies and I'm smart! But men don't care about that, let's be real
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>>32611585
>It also shows me that you are not a bot/catfish
How's that? It's not like I'd avoid saving group pics if I were using some guy's instagram
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>>32611587
what argument? an argument only exists within the framework of a debate. you just bowed out no? words have meaning anon
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>>32611595
>Nope!
Femme fatale? Even better
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>>32611592
>men get strength from friendship bonds and sensitivity
Could you be any more of a faggot?
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>>32611595
>Could be cute if you are trying to attract a girl who has similar hobbies to you
Based then I'm gonna use that
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>>32611600
It was meant to get the last word in the argument, or you wouldn't have posted it.
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>>32611597
Two guys already said it's hot that you're a doctor
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>>32611602
every warrior culure in history had strong and emotional brotherhood ties
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State gender.
What do you think does the opposite gender see as the ideal partner?
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>>32611597
>I'm smart!
(X)
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>>32611327
M
Mixed bag. I don't mind crowds as long as shit is under control. But other than that, I get really annoyed when I'm at cons and these fucking obnoxious people decide to stop in the middle of the aisles while people are trying to pass through.

This obnoxious couple of friends stood in me and my best friend's way and after saying excuse me in a loud, but nice voice, I just told them straight up to move the fuck out of our way and they jumpy and apologized.
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>>32611606
The Spartans literally buttfucked each other. Stop trying to turn everyone into faggots.
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>>32611607
f
obviously depends on the moid
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>>32611607
M
Jaime Lannister (if he wasn't fucking his sister)
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>>32611615
ew
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>>32611591
I just added my b cups to the poll
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You guys are honestly idiots.
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>>32611620
Sorry, it's because we're men
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>>32611607
F
Judging by what I've seen on here, cute, wholesome, and feminine, yet having some tomboyish or nerdy hobbies and interests to bond over.
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>>32611598
Oh simply because the fake profiles my friends and I have encountered do not have group pictures!
>>32611605
Well I assume the average man man would rather be with a beautiful barista than a fugly doctor. So looks trump all in the female dating world
>>32611608
Hehe be meaner I get off on it
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>>32611612
it was illegal in ancient greece for a free man to penetrate another free man regardless of if it was consensual or not. What they did was more cuddling and jerking each other off. Also my captcha is cool.
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>>32611623
No, I don't think that's what it is.
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>>32611556
Stealth Bimbo needs to add her DDs to the poll
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>>32611250
The left is false unless the guy is super conventionally attractive to the point that female attention is completely worthless to him, or the woman is extremely fat and/or ugly to the point that the average man does NOT want to see her naked.

The right is totally true, though. Until a woman is older, generally speaking, the average man does absolutely nothing for her.
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>>32611626
>What they did was more cuddling and jerking each other off
>this is somehow not gay
Also that was Athens, and they just fucked teen boys instead of fucking each other. Spartans had big gay orgies together.
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>>32611628
Do it for me please <3
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>>32611629
Nice try, but some of the accounts are explicit.
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>>32611625
>beautiful barista than a fugly doctor
Sure, but the same goes for women
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>>32611605
Just one, I think.
I didn't say it was hot, I said it was impressive. It's honestly a turnoff for me. I don't want a relationship with a woman who is going to be so busy and career-focused.
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>>32611624
You pretty much nailed it
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>>32611543
I'm not that anon (4chan break failed btw)
anyhow victorian masculinity beats post-industrial one
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>>32611637
Oh definitely not. At least where I'm from. The fugly doctor is way more desirable to women.
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>>32611617
My first thought was Khal Drogo
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>>32611643
>At least where I'm from.
Let me guess, a poor country?
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>>32611632
I never said it wasn't gay just that penetrating a free man, regardless of consent, was illegal in ancient greece.
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>>32611643
Nah, expensive city
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>>32611625
I was going to say mean things but since you claim to like it I will refrain.
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>>32611618
Based
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>>32611648
Show me what you've got. Bet you're full of shit :)
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>>32611649
The "B" in "B-cup" stands for "based".
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>>32611643
>The fugly doctor is way more desirable to women.
Haven't anons posted research showing both sexes prioritize looks above all else?
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Non-weebs of /atoga/:
State gender and whether you'd date a weeb.
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>>32611651
My favorite size, so I agree.
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So apparently this is now a big thing, guy is getting roasted and called a creep.
Gender, is this considered too much these days? What did he do wrong?
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>>32611652
Yes and the only thing that can override looks is money, at least for women, for men it begins and ends with how you look.
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>>32611655
M.
Probably not, depends on the type of weeb. If you're into seasonal anime, sure. If you only like slice of life shit, no thank you.
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>>32611607
M
Jason, basically a giant tall murderer (omg i can fix him) who doesn’t talk and probably has a big dick
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>>32611655
Would not date a weeb man because my worst fear as a white woman is dating a white man and finding out he has yellowfever. Would rather find out that he sleeps with a stuffed animal
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>>32611650
Why would I give you what you want? Fuck off.
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>>32611657
M
I literally don't interact with women outside of my family or women married to my friends for this exact reason. The only time I interact with them is in a professional setting at work or me checking out and the cashier is female.
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>>32611607
Male
One of the boys in FFXV, probably the prince so he can financially take care of her too
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>>32611657
F
>What did he do wrong?
He should've written "two" instead of "2".
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>>32611657
M
That's not that bad for a nerd. But yeah, shooting your shot is risky with ubiquitous social media
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>>32611655
Are you considered a weeb if you onl watched one show and liked it?
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>>32611657
This is just one more piece in the pile of evidence that proves that women hate men.
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>>32611664
Hehe
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man dating apps should be banned.
I thought I was fugly becauseo f those apps

but in real life I get way more success. even had a one night stand this week.
I thought my 0 matches on all apps meant I was out of the game but its the algorythms that fuck you over, waste of everyones time and confidence
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>>32611664
Anon... She just got you to be mean again
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>>32611672
Stop replying to me.
>>32611674
Kill yourself.
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>>32611662
What's yellow fever in this context? I've seen it refer to everything from "thinks Asian women are hot" to "thinks all Asian women are submissive doormat tradwives and fetishizes them over that".
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>>32611657
>if guy > 8 on scale then its cute
>if guy < 8 on scale then its creepy
Come on people
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>>32611670
They like chads
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State gender
Do you have panic attacks? How often?
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>>32611673
Everyone's been saying this for a while now, anon. Why are you so slow?
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>>32611679
F
No.
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>>32611678
They tolerate chads to get dick and money and social status. They don't like them.
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>>32611657
>those nails
so she is fat
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>>32611675
Lol, how dumb are you that her reverse psychology worked? Haha
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>>32611655
Male
If she just watches anime or reads the mango? Probably, as long as she wasn't obsessing over a reverse harem of rapists or something.
If she's the stereotype of a weeb and/or is the type to go to conventions? Nope, not my thing.

>>32611657
>hackathon
Poor bastard is probably autistic and looked up how to flirt, then tried to "notice small detail about her" with the unfortunate results you saw depicted.
At least this woman covered the rest of his number, so the dude is fairly lucky.
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>>32611679
Male
Never had one
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>>32611679
f, no
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>>32611680
I never believed it
because it sounded like wishful thinking
but its true, at least in my case
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>>32611679
M
Just had my first in years. Just randomly went into fight-or-flight.
I still have heartburn from it.
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>>32611625
>Well I assume the average man man would rather be with a beautiful barista than a fugly doctor. So looks trump all in the female dating world
Nta but it depends more on the personality. Intelligence is really attractive to me but if the doctor is otherwise very boring and doesn't do anything, then obviously it doesn't work for me. I've seen a lot of intelligent femanons have no sense of imagination and that utterly destroys my attraction
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>>32611684
Fuck off, faggot.
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>>32611672
Can you please tell us what public figure you most resemble so I can masturbate to her?
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>>32611683
Explain.
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>>32611662
I'm a weeb that sleeps with a stuffed animal, and doesn't have yellow fever, what's up
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>>32611662
I'm a stuffed animal that doesn't sleep with weebs but has yellow fever, what's up
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>>32611692
Lol, outsmarted by a feminist bimbo. That must hurt!
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>>32611679
M
I think I had a panic attack once? I started hyperventilating and couldn't stop. It happened during a meal, and I noticed that I was having trouble eating because I needed to breathe so damn much. It got worse and worse as my mom drove me to the hospital, and only stopped when they injected some drug that relaxed me.

I wasn't panicking or anything. Mentally I was fine, and I wasn't particularly stressed about anything either. It's just that "panic attack" was what lined up with the symptoms the most.
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>>32611696
Besides the fact that she has chubby fingers? Those nails are very poorly made (way too thick, weird shape), so they likely were cheap af and done on someone that has no self esteem to have a better job to afford better nails or ask for them to be made better. Ugly girls have low self esteem. Most girls that are ugly are ugly because they are fat.
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>>32611662
I'm a yellow fever that sleeps with weebs but not stuffed animals, what's up
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>>32611679
Male
Every day at work when morning shift comes in
Every day when I'm about to leave my room to see my mom and her husband
Holidays when my other relatives come over
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>>32611657
I thought this was a very specific anon's hand at first
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>>32611700
End your life.
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>>32611675
You'll see me in your dreams tonight baby
>>32611676
I am unfortunately very attracted to white guys who have yellowfever. There's a phenotype and a distinct personality. Usually calm, kind and geeky guys who were nerdy in high school but developed a sense of style and got attractive in college. Usually pale, brown hair, wear glasses, tall. I guess many Asian girls have sweet personalities and are hard working so maybe that's the appeal? Or maybe it's because they're just porn addicts and imagine Asian women to be submissive? Not sure but I can sniff them out from a mile away.
>>32611695
Body Alexandra Daddario but more muscular and fatter legs, face Anne Hathway/Sasha Grey
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ooooh nooooo
white women dont want because i have yellow fever
my worst nightmare has come true
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>>32611708
I don't have dreams.
Stop replying to me.
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>>32611709
asian women don‘t want you either
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>>32611711
then why do they date me
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>>32611708
>Body Alexandra Daddario but more muscular and fatter legs, face Anne Hathway/Sasha Grey
Geez, you are hot then. Thanks!
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>>32611712
because you pay them
>>
State gender.
Do you ever see a conflict where you desperately want both sides to lose?
>>
Women, my sanity is coming apart and I'm drinmking again and I'm drunk at 6:45 AM while playing on a brainrot constnat dopamine Battlefield 4 server. How do I recover from this?
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How long do i wait before asking an fwb if she wants to hang again? Weve been seeing each other for only a few weeks...

Ive been thinking it's a good idea to wait and let her initiate the next meetup but idk. We last saw each other a week ago and the sex was pretty great, i went 3 rounds and got her off. And now im mega horny and im thinking maybe i should just get in touch and try to organize another meetup...
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>>32611716
Yes, the gender war.
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>>32611710
You should work on that, take a magnesium supplement perhaps
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>>32611716
Male
No, typically I don't give a shit about one side and just want the other to lose.
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>>32611716
Cold War
Cold War 2.0
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>>32611720
Nothing to work on.
Stop replying to me.
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>>32611716
I think most conflicts are like that
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>>32611716
F
India vs Pakistan
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>>32611556
High fives for the femanon that's a DDD
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>>32611718
She's probably expecting you to reach out. Give it a few days otherwise she'll perceive you as desperate
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>>32611717
Not a woman, but which server? Lemme join.
I'm going to teabag everyone I knie
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>>32611723
Okay I'll stop
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>>32611725
Hindubros...
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>>32611726
*jiggles*
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state gender
do you think dabbing is seductive?
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>>32611716
M
right wing infighting
terfs & lgb drop the t vs. right wingers (but I repeat myself)
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>>32611732
f
no?
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>>32611716
India pakistan
Israel palestine
Americas wars in the middle east
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>>32611432
>I've picked op women debating about who's the best wagner interpreter solti or karajan
Ehm
The fact that Karajan was even mentioned in this instance is a huge red flag. We all know it's either Solti or Furtwängler. Karajan was just massively pushed by his label (DG) and built up his reputation as a "bad boy" in the 70s, which made him even more popular. His Wagner recordings remain mediocre at best. The same can be said about his pupil, Thielemann.
I am shocked we have this discussion at all.
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>>32611735
what why the fuck not
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>>32611732
M
how could it not be
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>>32611727
ok i already waited a week, so you reckon just reach out to organize something now when I get the chance?
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>>32611679
F. Only very rarely, during intimacy.
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>>32611741
damn nice powerdabs
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>>32611732
M
Depends on the attitude. If a woman is doing it to be ridiculous, it's funny, and if she's being funny for me, it's flattering. Flattery is seductive to me.

I can't imagine a guy dabbing to ever instill positive feelings in a woman, though.
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>>32611471
>fake bewbs
That is an immediate minus 5 in the looks department. You're a 4 at most sweetie
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>>32611725
Bloody basterd bitch
Fuck you bloody benchod
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>>32611716
M
Around the time I was still friends with her, I wanted my close friend's relationship to genuinely end.

For starters, she is taking advantage of a guy who has never been in a relationship in his whole life and had emotionally cheated on him with her situationship 9 or 10 times. She'd justify this behavior to him by saying "oh well it shouldn't be a problem because I'm getting a free meal and he gets nothing" despite that being severely untrue because he got her attention and validity that she still loves him and wants him (she wound up sneaking off to his home on his birthday and she thinks I don't know that). She's used me as a scapegoat for her lies to her bf.

But I also don't like how much of woman her bf is because the dude constantly runs his mouth about me and her situationship ex nonstop and it's genuinely pathetic. All while putting a front that he "liked" me. We didn't have to be chummy, just cordial. And if he had a problem with me, he should be man enough to tell me. But just because I don't like him and his two faced personality doesn't mean I don't fele bad for the guy. He's being strung along and essentially kneeling like a cuck by allowing his gf to break his trust and respect. It's like watching a car wreck. Hard to ignore when it's just there in your face.
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>>32611743
Man a girl I took to a love hotel had a full screaming panic attack & obviously I was fine with it and just hugging her through it but I was def worried someone was going to kick the door down or call the police
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>>32611738
Karajan was based, though
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>>32611742
Yep do it anon.
>>32611746
I'll be the prettiest 4 you ever saw <3
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I hate women.
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>>32611718
>manwhores posting in my thread again
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
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>>32611749
She was clearly not used to having those attacks yet. I've gotten so good at hiding my panic attacks that I can feel them coming. So I ask whoever I'm dating to take me from behind so I can bury my face in a pillow while I cry and pretend the shaking is from my legs going weak. Usually they don't even notice or stop.
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>>32611752
I love women
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>>32611755
You sound like a slut
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>>32611752
everyone does, even women do
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>>32611757
I both hate and love women simultaneously.
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>>32611757
Didn't ask, faggot.
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>>32611758
>damaged woman prone to panic attacks is also a slut
Imagine my shock
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>>32611718
Don't reach out until there's a lot of time passed by. Or let her first.
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>>32611753
We virgins are still here
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>>32611758
Slut just means you really like sex, right? Then sure. Not a whore, at least.
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>>32611751
>I'll be the prettiest 4 you ever saw <3
Looks don't impress me any more. I'm too old for that
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>>32611764
Nta. I genuinely don't understand panic attacks. Like, what causes them? What's the purpose behind them?
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>>32611755
Idk, she's been having them for a while and like you she says she can feel them coming on. She did bury her face in a pillow and scream but, you know, a scream is a scream.
I definitely wouldn't say they're hidden tho lmfao
She's a great woman btw I really respect her. I feel a bit like I'm painting her as a nuisance or something
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>>32611762
No one asked you either.
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>>32611767
>>32611767
It means you have a lot of casual sex with different men
At least whores value themselves
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>>32611771
Which is why I didn't reply to anyone.
Go be a faggot somewhere else.
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>>32611755
>So I ask whoever I'm dating to take me from behind so I can bury my face in a pillow while I cry and pretend the shaking is from my legs going weak
I guess that beats klonopin
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>>32611773
>loving women is gay
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>>32611776
Simping is faggot behavior.
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>>32611777
He wasn't simping, though. All he did was state that he loves women.
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>>32611773
I know you'll post the same thing another 1-2 times. So we'll talk then :)
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>>32611728
a locker 24/7 server
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>>32611778
Yes, in response to me saying I hate them, i.e. being a white knight, i.e. simping.
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>>32611770
Oh, then I guess her panic attacks are just different. I don't scream during mine, just cry and shake, if anything beyond shutting down. I'm glad you appreciate her regardless.
>>32611772
I don't have lots of casual sex. I've just had panic attacks since I was a child, and now I'm in my thirties, so I've had a lot of time to date a bf and learn how my panic attacks work.
>>32611775
What's that?
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>>32611779
Kill yourself.
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>>32611765
do you think a week is long enough?
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>>32611773
>>32611777
>if you love women you're GAY
woah
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>>32611782
Sex with a bf is still casual sex
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>>32611773
Imagine going to the only thread on 4chan guaranteed to have women in it, just to spam that you hate them every few hours, every day... You absolute fucking loser.
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>>32611785
>>32611783
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>>32611786
Then yes, I'm a filthy slut who has premarital sex with someone I love. Please, God, forgive me while you watch us and jerk off in heaven.
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>>32611787
That's the first time I've posted anything like that in 2025, dumb cunt.
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>>32611789
>>32611783
Cunt
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>>32611783
You're the one who's miserable
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>>32611792
Nah, I'm having fun.
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>>32611790
Imagine if your parents could see how pathetic you've become.
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>>32611790
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32598190/#32599611
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32595740/#32595889
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32595740/#32595851
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32585675/#32585949
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32583656/#32585748
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32580893/#32581542
Must I continue...?
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>>32611793
No, being pissed off and full of hate is a shitty way to live
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>>32611794
I talked to my mom earlier today. She's not disappointed in me in the slightest.
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>>32611795
Literally none of those were me.
Shocking, I know, that maybe there's more than one person who hates women.
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>>32611795
Jeez, what a schizo.
>>32611797
Did you tell her you hate women?
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>>32611796
Considering how many posters in these threads claim to have been on 4chan for 10+ years, I'm surprised how few actually grasp the concept of trolling.
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>>32611800
That's literally just me and 2 other posters
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>>32611799
No, she assumes that I do though because I'm not a raging feminist.
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>>32611804
>because I'm not a raging feminist.
To you, anyone who doesn't hate women is a feminist.
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>>32611804
She assumes you hate her? Her own child?
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Wait, why am I on this board again?
M or F
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>>32611798
>exact same pattern and posting style.
Sorry anon, we know it's you.
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>>32611805
No, but if you feel the need to slap back a post about hating women on an anonymous Burmese waterbending forum, you're probably some kind of feminist.
>>32611806
Yeah, probably. Usually any time a topic comes up that has to do with women, women's rights, etc. she starts screaming at me hysterically because I'm not frothing at the mouth upset over whatever it is she wanted to talk about.
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>>32611804
Your feelings of resentment can't be healthy. Get into anime so there'll at least be SOME women you don't hate, even if they're fictional.
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>>32611809
It's three simple words, dumbshit. And anons have been making that exact post in these threads for years.
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>>32611808
M
Because you love women?
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>>32611811
Thanks for the advice, you can leave it in the garbage can along with the rest of your opinions on the way out.
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>>32611813
You've been posting this for years?
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>>32611815
Rude.
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>>32611816
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
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>>32611808
this is the type of thing an eye divine cybermancy character would say
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>>32611810
I just tell my mom we have to agree to disagree on feminism and politics.
Is yours BPD or something?
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>>32611810
>Usually any time a topic comes up that has to do with women, women's rights, etc. she starts screaming at me hysterically because I'm not frothing at the mouth upset over whatever it is she wanted to talk about.
>psycho parent causes child to hate the sex of said parent
Many such cases!
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>>32611822
desu remember we're talking about 4chan users here. odds are they're just autistic
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>>32611818
Did you know Samuel L Jackson was a black panther?
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>>32611821
OCD, I think. Maybe a touch of autism too.
>>32611822
Nah, we get along well when we're not discussing politics and she's usually pretty cool.
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>>32611825
I don't like him or the movie, I was just using the line.
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>>32611824
NTA, but autism doesn't cause you to post the same shit 3 times a day for years.
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>>32611825
I didn't realize he could be any more based, wow.
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>>32611828
NTA. Why don't you like him?
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>>32611817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxw8xg1lpp4
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>>32611825
>Did you know Samuel L Jackson was a racist terrorist?
I didn't know that, thanks for bringing that up
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>>32611827
>OCD, I think. Maybe a touch of autism too
Any chance you got some of those genes?
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>>32611825
damn, fair
explains some things (like his commitment to playing Stephen in Django)
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>>32611655
f, yes my gf is a bit of a wee. I sometimes watch anime with her
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>>32611832
He seems pretty full of himself even though he's just another actor, and he doesn't really seem capable of playing more than one character.
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>>32611837
>is a bit of a wee
this anon is dating urine...
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>>32611837
Cute
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>>32611834
oh cope you whiney nutter
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>>32611833
Thanks for bringing the existence of this video to my attention. It's beautiful.
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>>32611679
f, yes. I had one maybe 3 or 4 nights ago. but I more have meltdowns than panic attacks
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>>32611835
Idk
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>>32611814
ambivalent I guess
if we're talking about the entire sex
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>>32611837
>>>/lgbt/
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>>32611850
She's welcome here.
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>>32611851
Not really
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>>32611851
No, she isn't.
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>>32611837
>>>/lgbt/
>wee
>>>/trash/
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>>32611847
>>32611850
Are you the same guy?
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>>32611833
I can't believe that my little confederate could be this cute
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>>32611657
>feminine handwriting
>"I LOVE those two braids in the back of your hair"
she wrote this and claimed a man gave it to her didn't she?
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>>32611855
No
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>>32611657
M
For the entire time I've been dating (so, like, the past eight years), it's never really been the done thing to try that whole "let me just ask a girl out before we know each other" thing. You either use dating apps to meet strangers, or else you meet someone naturally and then, organically, ask them out.
I think the context is also extremely important. There's a big difference between getting asked out in a neutral situation vs. this, which is "every fucking time I try and explore my hobby I know I'm going to be the odd one out, guys are going to treat me weirdly, and I'm going to have to deal with guys trying to ask me out"
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>>32611855
No
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>>32611851
No
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>>32611853
>>32611852
She is, I already declared it.
>>32611859
Good catch, anon.
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>>32611864
>I already declared it
So what? Who gives a fuck what you say?
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>>32611862
Post a screenshot
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>>32611780
holy shit, my condolences
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>>32611845
Confederate shrine maidens wearing their traditional southern spring festival kimonos while they walk around eating yakitori and french fries is a rare but comfy vibe
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>>32611864
We don't care for your simpcuck opinion
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>>32611866
>So what? Who gives a fuck what you say?
On this matter? Probably every woman here.
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>>32611867
Why?
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>>32611870
>simpcuck
Anon can't think for himself, his synapses can only fit /pol/ menes
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>>32611873
Fair enough. It would've been hilarious if you were also the anon that was cucked by a lesbian
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>>32611655
F. Only if they have watched DBZ and liked it.
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i love bisexual women
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>>32611867
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>>32611877
Me too
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>>32611878
That's a lot of based...
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>>32611878
Does that mean you both take cock all the way to the base?
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>>32611871
That's nice, no one that matters.
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>>32611882
Stop telling us about your gay fantasies, fag.
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>>32611883
Atoga couldn't exist without them by definition
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Women
Thoughts on a guy that reads romance books/manga? Specifically not harem, or not a focus on it anyways
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>>32611886
Sure it could.
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>>32611885
But I hate women, and hating women is gay
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>>32611889
I'm not sure if you could be any more of a faggot if you tried.
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>>32611470
based floor sleeper
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>>32611888
>ask the opposite gender anything
Who's the opposite gender, retard?
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>>32611875
No, that's an old screencap from /fit/. All three participants were pieces of shit.
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>>32611890
I am trying. Give me your bussy anon
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>>32611892
Gender doesn't exist, so no one.
These threads have been a chatroom for a long time, don't need women to chat with random people anonymously on the internet.
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>>32611897
I've got a better idea, let's see how fast you can make it to the bottom of the ocean with a concrete block around your ankles.
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>>32611898
Why do you want to chat up other men?
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>>32611900
Are you one of those morons that thinks these threads are for dating or hooking up?
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>>32611887
I read smut, seems pretty much the same so I can't judge him.
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>>32611874
>/pol/ menes
What about those men, Rajesh?
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Should i go to the pub/clubs and see if i can get laid or meet som people?
Im 24 M and its 11:30 pm where im at
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>>32611901
Of course not.
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>>32611899
Honestly the fresh air would probably do you some good.
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>>32611877
>>32611879
Ngl, they do give the best advice
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>>32611877
I like sluts too
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>>32611902
So it's just neutral then?
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>>32611795
Hasn't he been doing this for several years now?
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>>32611911
You sound like a cuck
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>>32611795
>>32611913
He is multiple people. Hating women for one reason or another isn't rare.
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>>32611912
Yep. Unless he's really into certain authors and would enjoy sharing thoughtful recommendations, then that passion could be a plus.
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>>32611904
Yes bro, don't even worry about getting laid but try to have a good time
Even going solo I had some fun nights out and met cool groups of people (and got girls' numbers in some cases)
>>32611887
Have you read Maison Ikkoku
>>32611825
Idk I just knew he was black
>>32611808
To suffer
>>32611725
In the cricket or real life?
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28m

I just joined a boxing / mma gym. I have been working out for years but just decided to join the gym because it’s nice and I want to learn boxing.

I have my second class this morning. I want to buy a pair of boxing gloves from the gym so I don’t have to keep paying to rent every time I take a class. But I also want to buy a hoodie that the gym makes.

I feel like a poser or a fag buying gloves and a hoody. Am I over thinking?
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I have a big mug of hot tea with honey. For a few minutes at least, life is good.
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>>32611917
Schizo cope
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>>32611921
>Yes bro, don't even worry about getting laid but try to have a good time
>Even going solo I had some fun nights out and met cool groups of people (and got girls' numbers in some cases)
yeah i also wouldnt mind having a night in, doing some reading or something too... also went out last night so not too sure what to do...
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>>32611922
depends, who's gonna judge you for it other than yourself? And you you care about their opinion
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>>32611673
>dating apps should be banned
Some of us have better dating success on apps than real life because we're crazy, please don't ban them
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>>32611662
>Would rather find out that he sleeps with a stuffed animal
Wait is this bad :/
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>>32611927
You’re probably right
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What do women think about atavistic stigmata?
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>>32611928
there should be a dating app where you can list all your mental health disorders
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>>32611673
It seems like on apps only looks matter. Not real looks either, but having professionally made "candid" photos of rock climbing and shit
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>>32611657
>2 braids in the back of your hair
Bro was trying to rizz Lain
Seriously though that's retarded that people are calling him "creepy" for an innocent note. When I waited tables a girl left me a note with her number, was also called cute at another job, nobody would call them freely though. Double standards much?
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Lesbians, you're also welcome here ITT btw.
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>>32611938
isn't that duolicious
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>>32611918
I do really like some authors yeah, I could talk about some stories for a long time
>>32611921
>Have you read Maison Ikkoku
No, I hadn't heard about it until a few days ago when someone here talked about a character they like, I think Ibuki?
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>>32611942
*nobody would call them creepy
>>32611938
>dating app where you can list all your mental health disorders
Picrel me listing my mental disorders
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>>32611923
Nice
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>>32611942
I am waiting for some actual F responses, can only guess.

Assuming the issue here is that she was the only girl at the event. Unless she's an attention whore, she's just trying to fit in and be treated like every other guy there. The content of the note itself is probably secondary here.
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>>32611655
How tf did non-weebs even end up on this website?
>>32611607
M
Tall, muscular, assertive guy who is rich with social status but also has a lot of time for her and countless skills and hobbies
Or maybe that's just what incels think idk
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>>32611556
Nice spread of sizes here
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>>32611948
>Maison Ikkoku
It's a cuck manga, just in case
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>>32611558
>not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture
What if he has a picture with his cats
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>>32611240
I dreamt that I got a girlfriend. Sort of, maybe.
I had been admiring her butt in a way too shirt skirt working in the bar all night. Then I woke up not remembering how I had gotten home, and then realized I hadn't - I was slumped over the kitchen table in a different place.
Then she started to make sounds from the next room. She invited me to share the bed she was sleeping in with her. I cuddled her for a minute until she suggested we should try to have sex. But we were interrupted by the rest of the house waking up.
She didn't seem to mind being carried around like a koala after that. I carried her to communal breakfast in the main lodge hall with fireplaces and long tables with split log benches.
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>>32611240
What is 4chan for women?
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>>32611943
>Lesbians, you're also welcome here ITT btw.
No
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>>32611958
You guys raided the mmo I was playing
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>>32611966
Crystal cafe, and lolcow. Crazy feminists, though.
>>32611967
Yes
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>>32611470
Based floor sleeper, I've done the same many a time
If you're still here, have a coffee, build your bed, then take a break and do some work
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>>32611946
completely dead in my area, no guys at all.
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>>32611966
well I use 4chan, it's not like it's just for men
>>32611973
crystal cafe is not feminists. they are misandrists and femcels
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>>32611975
Try lowering the height limit by an inch or two
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>>32611923
Based honey enjoyer
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>>32611979
>not feminists. they are misandrists
In my experience that distinction hasn't been so clear.
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>>32611327
M, no, I don't like people in general
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>>32611980
I don't think it even had a height slider when I used it (on launch and for a few months)
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>>32611308
>zoomers girl so allergic to showing some skin
Bruh most girls I dated wore too little even in winter, I was worried about them catching cold
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>>32611990
Really? That seems kinda basic
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>>32611279
It's a good speedrun strat but I have a shared bathroom so no
>>32611256
I want to tidy her apartment...
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>>32611979
It's the same picture
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>>32611250
>someone saying "I'll love you!"
Ayo which dream reality is this
>>32611968
Get fooked m8
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>>32611979
>they are misandrists and femcels
And lesbians. If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men. Lesbians' hatred of men is on a completely different, higher level.
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>>32611974
I am, I'm on my second cup of coffee and I think I'll just stay up cause I have an appointment today at 10am.
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What male-centric hobby is accessible and cheap enough for a woman to try getting into to meet men around where she lives?
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>>32612004
NTA. My lesbian friend has helped me get laid a few times
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Bitches and manwhores I'm going to the SUPERMARKET what are you wanting??
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>>32612004
Yeah but every lesbian thread on these websites devolves into talking about men
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>>32612007
Martial Arts?
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>>32612004
>And lesbians. If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men.
Well, who knows
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>>32612007
>another women who can't stand that men have alone time and wants to ruin another hobby
great...
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>>32612004
>If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men.
Ehh, a lot of redpill/incel men give closeted gay guy vibes
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>>32612007
I was the only woman at the gun club I went to and you could rent the guns for like $20. but the guys were more millennial/gen X/boomers. no zoomers
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>>32612004
>If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men
(X)
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>>32612007
Idk, maybe tennis? I met my ex there
Or badminton
Or fishing (you could go fishing for men)
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>>32612011
1 hug to go plz
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>>32612007
t. goes to hobby groups, finds the tallest most attractive guy and harasses him even though he has a girlfriend, then has a BPD episode and nobody hears from her ever again
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>>32612016
I like meeting women
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>>32612022
Okaaay then *hugz* :3
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>>32612013
I already know some karate from when I was a kid. Idk how adult martial arts work, though.
>>32612016
You fucks TOLD me to look into male hobbies to meet guys.
>>32612019
I don't do well around firing ranges.
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>>32612017
But you saying that is meaningless because women always use this cope regardless of if it's true
You have no integrity
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>>32612028
that wasn't to go, I would like to speak to the manager please.
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>>32612008
>a few times
So much for the quality of those hookups
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>>32612021
I'm not very sporty. What sorts of meetups to people into fishing have? I always assumed it was a more private hobby.
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>>32612029
>You fucks TOLD me to look into male hobbies to meet guys.
Why can't you just go to a hobby that is already ruined by women like dancing or running?
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>>32612031
*does a 360* I am the manager bitch
And I am barring you from the store for being too cute
(Just kidding I'll go find the real manager I guess)
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>>32612032
What?
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>>32612029
>do well
Ah yes the "I cannot handle mundane aspects of life" personality type
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>>32611943
They really aren't.
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>>32612037
Loud noises hurt.
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>>32612035
D:
I would like to speak to your corporate office!
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>>32612034
>Why can't you just go to a hobby that is already ruined by women like dancing
>Anon wishes he could dance with men again
Lol, gay.
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>>32611962
It isn't.
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>>32612039
They are
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>>32612021
nta but how do you start with something like tennis without another person to play with?
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>>32612042
I dance but not as a hobby and that was said partly because I thought it was funny. But its weird and creepy that she is targeting mainly male hobbies so she can be one of the few women to pick out men. It's predatory and rapey.
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>>32611979
>crystal cafe is not feminists. they are misandrists and femcels
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>>32612033
>not very sporty
Tennis and badminton can be quite casual
What sorts of meetups do people into fishing have
Idk, ones to catch fish presumably
I'm too ADHD for anything besides sega bass fishing
>>32612034
Also orienteering is a good shout as it can be more about navigation than running
I can't read a map for shit so when I did it the girls would use their brains and I was the brawn who would carry everything
Dancing is a good way to meet girls but probably not a great way to meet guys as a girl, most of the ones I saw were frutier than Ricky Martin in the salon
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>>32612040
If only standard ear protection existed to keep you from going deaf
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>>32612047
>I dance
That's still a little gay.
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>>32612046
>how do you start with something like tennis without another person to play with
Join a tennis club/class
>>32612041
Sorry ma'am I don't get paid enough for this tbqh
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>>32612050
You're going to insult me no matter how I respond, so ok.
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>>32612052
Depends on the type of dancing but its a basic human thing that I think we should all do now and then.
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>>32612054
He's an incel, so no, he's definitely not okay.
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>>32611250
M
Yes. Both versions.

>>32611327
No. They're cramped and noisy and paradoxically socially isolating.

>>32611679
M. I had a period in my life when I would get panic attacks, but they're not a thing that have been following be throughout life. Mostly it's just depression.

>>32611732
M. No.
Then again, a girl doing anything and acting stupid to get my attention is, a little, so maybe?
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>>32612040
Tfw you will never go to a rave with JH
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>>32612029
>You fucks TOLD me to look into male hobbies to meet guys.
I hate to tell you this, but the majority of men do hobbies by themselves or in very closed social groups. Women usually are the gender that goes out of their way to form book clubs and such, not that there's anything wrong with that, but a lot of modern men live either isolated or in closed social systems.
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>>32611240
What do I do if I'm a femcel but not a misandrist
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>>32611734
>terfs & lgb drop the t vs. right wingers (but I repeat myself)
Are you a gynandromorphophile?
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>>32611679
M
I don't really get panic attacks I'm just in a constant state of anxiety and on the verge of a mental breakdown while looking calm and collected
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>>32612040
They do unless its music.
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>>32611988
>>32612001
>>32612048
I find it sad that this is a common take but I know the sort of people you're talking about when you say this. it's not true feminism to hate men
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>>32611921
>going solo I had some fun nights out and met cool groups of people
I feel like I'm missing a step here between sitting alone at the bar looking around awkwardly, and having fun with a group of people
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>>32612062
I don't do concerts for a similar reason. So def no raves.
>>32612063
So when you guys suggested it, you were purposefully setting me up to fail? Okay, thanks.
>>32612070
Loud music is still painful.
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>>32611731
I love physics
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>>32612065
Meet more men I guess
If you want to ofc
What makes you a femcel?
That's nice you don't hate us tho
>>32612063
Actually book clubs are probably a good way to meet smart men
I went to a book club in highschool because I had a crush on my English teacher but didn't understand what they were yapping about using difficult words
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>>32612015
>>32612017
I mean, if that's true, it just reinforces the comparison. Lesbians are the ultimate misandrists and gays are the ultimate misogynists. They are the elite forces of the Great Gender War, ensuring that even the faintest traces of love, such as horniness, cease to exist and only pure hatred for the opposite gender remains.
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>>32612071
They want to be intimate with them
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>>32612012
M. Probably because most of the anon on this website are men, and men can't stand seeing women talking about anything but them.
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>>32612071
>those roots
She's a bottle blonde
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>>32612074
>So when you guys suggested it, you were purposefully setting me up to fail? Okay, thanks.
Why am I all of a sudden everyone who you've talked too? Don't let me stop you from joining a hobby group but instead of targeting "mainly male hobbies" why don't you just join hobby clubs you are actually interested in and go from there?
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>>32612016
I get plenty alone time as it is thank you very much. I would mind have a greater chance of meeting women i the few social things I like doing.
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>>32612073
It's easier (at least for me) in a more lively nightclub environment desu, I've also had times just sitting at the bar myself not talking to anyone (though tbf sometimes I just didn't want to)
Beer gardens and smoking areas are good for it, especially smaller ones where you're kinda forced into interacting with people
You gotta make a bit of effort though, asking if you can sit somewhere, or chipping something into a conversation (if they seem open to it), or simply asking someone if you can get them a drink
If you can meet a yapper girl that makes it easier
Also don't worry if nothing happens, especially as an introvert it can be nice to just have a drink or two and play some games on your phone/read a book and then go home, sometimes I did this on the way home from work
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>>32612084
There aren't any single men in any hobby groups I'm already involved in that I haven't already considered or tried dating. My hobbies are pretty limited.
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>>32612088
What are your hobbies, maybe I can help you brainstorm new hobbies that are similar and you can go from there.
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>>32612079
>lesbians ensure that horniness ceases to exist
Does he know?
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>>32612090
Baking, gardening, crocheting/knitting, online shopping, shitposting. Everything else I like doing I wouldn't consider "hobbies" since I'm not super invested in those things.
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>>32612076
Nta, male
Co-ed book clubs can be weirdly hard to find. I really like to read and wanted to join one but there are no non-religious book clubs around me that allow men to join
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>>32612016
This >>32612027 >>32612086
Incels shouldn't speak for men
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>>32612068
I don't know what that means but I think you should kill yourself
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>>32612097
You say that until they trannify your hobby, collapse it, then go on to ruin the next place men gather to have fun.
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>>32612084
>but instead of targeting "mainly male hobbies" why don't you just
NTA. Because the whole point is to find more men to date. Duh.
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>>32612102
Source: bro's ass
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>>32612102
You people have no serious complaints. You're just crybabies
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>>32612007
I would love for some girls to join our tabletop+DnD group. They're never that fun when it's a sausage party.
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>>32612095
4chan has literally thousands of men available for (You)
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>>32612103
you should just kidnap me desu that would solve both our problems
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>>32612106
D&D isn't really male centric. It's fairly equal now IME
The group I GM for is wholly women (excluding me) but that probs doesn't count because I recruited them and my friends are all women for some reason
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>>32611734
We have tranny apologists in atoga?
Look into AGP and John Money
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>>32612102
I said women, not trannies.
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>>32612106
We tried a DnD thing ITT and I even learned how to play, just for nobody to show up except for me and the DM. That put me off from bothering with that shit. Similar thing happened concerning online video games in general.
>>32612107
I don't think I can properly get to know a guy based on our mutual shit posting.
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>>32612095
no cooking or baking classes you could take?
>knitting and crocheting
kek hag/10 hobby but I really need to learn how to stitch up clothing as a guy.
You aren't really giving me much to work with here, how about you start looking into hiking or exercising? You could always see if there's an "Singles Adventure" thing where single men and women go out to do things together.
>>32612103
By pretending to be someone that you aren't, its weird, its creepy, its predatory. But I get where you are coming from, I tend to go to work then go home so I'm basically invisible to women.
>>32612104
>>32612105
You guys are very out of touch with current culture and I say that as someone who is out of touch with current culture.
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>>32612111
didn't John money basically prove that trannyism is real? and also the British forcing that computer science guy to take estrogen
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>>32612109
Did you reply to the wrong post?
Anyway, can't do that. "Me too" taught me better.
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>>32612111
Do you think after thirteen years on 4chan, your half arsed post is going to be the one that convinces me that people shouldn't be allowed to choose their own gender?
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>>32612114
I would have come it I was around at the time, but I'm also KP so...
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>>32612115
Fuck you for calling me old. They're just practical hobbies.
That being said, I think I'm too old for events tailored for singles specifically.
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>>32612121
How old are you? If you are in your mid-30s I'd say you are still "young" enough to do those things.
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>>32612120
Idk what that means.
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>>32612115
Yeah I know you're out of touch with current culture
>>32612116
You don't get it bro, the fact someone killed themselves after being forced to pretend to be a gender they don't identify as SURELY proves that trans gender dysphoria can be cured by forcing people to pretend to be a gender they don't identify as
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>>32612119
>convinces me that people shouldn't be allowed to choose their own gender?
That's hilarious, because they'd find your statement highly problematic.
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>>32612124
Don't worry about it then, just know I would have come if I was around at the time. Dungeon World is also better imo because its super simple and can be taught in around 10 minutes and it's a way more story focused, way less mechanical way of playing a ttrpg
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>>32612123
I'm around there. It's intimidating to consider doing something where everyone around knows I'm trying to meet people there, though. No plausible deniability if nothing looks like it'll work out.
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>>32612118
>can't do that. "Me too" taught me better
I would consent to it tho
>>32612115
>I say that as someone who is out of touch
I can tell
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>>32612127
I learned 3.5e and it didn't seem TOO complicated.
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>>32612114
I meant in-person
playing online to make friends is kinda pointless if we'll never meet in real life, probably halfway across the world
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>>32612115
>By pretending to be someone that you aren't, its weird, its creepy, its predatory.
Getting out of your comfort zone is probably one of the absolutely most common dating advice. And it's good for personal growth.
Besides, I don't think men on the whole tend to get creeped out buy women being weird, as much as women get creeped out by men.
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>>32612125
>>32612130
>says the people who doesn't know 2 multi-million dollar companies are going out of business because of women invading a male space
kek
>>32612128
If it's intimidating bring a friend, you'll find out its not as bad as you think.
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>>32612132
What I was trying to convey is that, if we couldn't get a group going online, the chances of getting people to actually show up in person would be impossible.
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>>32612133
getting out of your comfort zone to do something new and going somewhere to not do a hobby but to bother the people who are there to do the hobby are two completely different things. And it is weird and it is creepy.
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>>32612136
I have zero single friends now. Like literally lost the last one to a guy at the beginning of this year.
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>>32612125
>You don't get it bro, the fact someone killed themselves after being forced to pretend to be a gender they don't identify as SURELY proves that trans gender dysphoria can be cured by forcing people to pretend to be a gender they don't identify as
John Money forced the boy's brother to sodomized him repeatedly. They both commited suicide.

Also the boy was never even told that he was born a male until much later.
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So lemme get this straight, you managed to go to dozens of dates in 2024, yet finding one hobby circle with single men is difficult? How on Earth did you come across dozens of men (out of probably hundreds) eligible to see face to face if your geographical area is that barren?
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>>32612136
If Assassin's Creed: Shadows doesn't sell 100 million copies or more Ubisoft is going to either be gutted for asset money or sold to tencent
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>>32612140
>Like literally lost the last one to a guy at the beginning of this year.
They don't stop being your friend once they start dating... I have friends that are married and have multiple kids, I'm in my mid-30s, and I still talk to them at least 1 to 3 times a week.
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>>32612130
>I would consent to it tho
You are a very lonely femanon. Or you're just having a fantasy.
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>>32612142
Friends of friends. The easiest way to meet single guys that are also partially vetted. Unfortunately, that well dries up even if you keep expanding your friend group.
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>>32612140
>lost
damn men, making my friends happy like that
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>>32612146
I thought they were about to kiss
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>>32612109
NHK REFERENCED!
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>>32612144
Are you not the person I was replying to? We were discussing meetups specifically for singles, and how it's intimidating to go to them knowing that everyone knows you're there to find a partner.
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>>32612147
And those friends of friends do not partake in social hobbies? Or they couldn't spare 5 minutes to tell you about them after your casual sex sessions or whatever? Nothing adds up.
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>>32612140
>Like literally lost the last one to a guy at the beginning of this year.
The bimbo and that guy?
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>>32612148
I meant lost as in lost out on as a potential friend to bring to a singles event, not as a friend. I hate you guys so much.
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>>32612146
I'm sometimes really envious of short women, but at the same time most clothing fits me super well sooo. also there's prettier girls that me but I don't get envious I just get attracted to them lol
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>>32612152
If you're the 30s something girl and you got confused I'm the "incel" that said originally that women going to find dates in male dominated hobbies is lame and you shouldn't do it, then we branched out into talking about other hobbies you might want to try based on your current hobbies and we are now here.
>and how it's intimidating to go to them knowing that everyone knows you're there to find a partner.
No it isn't... Its very common to look for a partner explicitly man or woman around your age...
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>>32612154
>casual sex sessions
You don't know anything about anything. I don't think you'll be of any help even if I tried engaging with your dumb shit. Go away.
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>>32612155
Let's not talk about it again.
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>>32612160
Apparently being social outside of 4chan is too difficult.
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>>32612162
Sorry. I'll shut up.
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>>32612159
>No it isn't
Maybe not for you.
>>32612163
Meeting friends of friends at my assertion feels plenty social of me. But you reduce every social encounter between a man and a woman to casual sex by default, so clearly you're of a different mind.
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>>32612096
Idk why people are surprised
Women do stuff to get away from the harassment and abuse of men
Do you want your rapist to enter your safe space?
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>>32612165
>Maybe not for you.
All the more reason you should do it to conquer your fears, or at least try it once just to say you overcame your fear and then do other avenues. Its okay to be rejected, its a normal part of the process, infact, its the majority of the process if you are a dude. It's also why I don't date, will never date, and probably will never marry lol.
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>>32612164
It's just that it's been resolved, nothing productive to gain from going over it again. It happened, we're here now, so the only thing left to do is figure out where to go from here.
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>>32612165
I'm of the opinion that if you were serious about dating for marriage you wouldn't be stuck for years in an endless cycle of going out with tens of men in search of the Prince Charming that you missed out on in your early 20s. Since this behavior doesn't make sense to me, I associate your futile attempts at finding the perfect man with a casual non-committed approach and extrapolate it to sex.
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>>32612173
>It's also why I don't date, will never date, and probably will never marry lol.
No offense, but why should I even consider anything you're saying on this topic, then?
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>>32612175
The fact that it turned out into a more stable thing between them two was news to me. That's the only reason I remarked on it.
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>>32612177
Because YOU haven't given up on dating, it's exactly why you should at least take what I say with a grain of salt. I did a cost-benefit analysis and I'm just one of those weirdos who never really was interested in people and never really cared about girls, friends, dating, ect.
You however do and your fear is causing you to freeze and suffer, rather than exploring all avenues for a husband and move forward.
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>>32612140
The hot brunette has a bf now?
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>>32612176
>endless cycle
You don't know shit. I have been having this trouble meeting new guys for like two years at most. Idk why you're responding to me with made up assumptions and stories like you know who I am or something. You're clearly not responding to me in good faith, you don't want to help at all. Don't bother responding.
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>>32611240
Why are all femcels brunettes?
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>>32612136
>2 multi-million dollar companies are going out of business because of women invading a male space
Is that not just shitty management from the men already in the company then
>>32612145
>You are a very lonely femanon
Wtf I'm a man
>>32612151
You know it
>>32612155
JH's ex collecting FWB like Pokemon cards
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>>32612183
Yeah, men really have worsened in quality over the past 2 years. "Where are the men?" Shame TikTok is going away, I'm going to miss that content.
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>>32612180
Like I said, they're really compatible. Makes me wonder why they weren't a more serious thing the first time around.
>>32612181
>I did a cost-benefit analysis
That's not how love works.
>>32612182
That describes like half of my friends.
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>>32612184
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>>32612189
>That's not how love works.
Who are you to tell me how love does and doesn't work? People make a decision, its to find someone or to not find someone; I chose to not find someone. It's literally that simple.
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>>32612185
Bitch I've had ONE FWB.
>>32612187
It's not a quality thing, it's a compatibility thing. Nobody around is compatible with me in enough ways that both of us would be interested in dating with the intent nto marry.
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state gender
Is implying moid behavior and saying it how it is foid behavior?
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>>32612189
I thought there was an especially hot raven haired woman who was slightly full of herself, but understandably so.
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>>32612191
Tfw I watched this movie on a date with a blonde girl
Was she trying to tell me something
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>>32612185
>Wtf I'm a man
Then I DEFINITELY have no interest in kidnapping you.
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>>32612194
>Nobody around is compatible with me in enough ways
Then you must be the one who is not compatible.
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>>32612184
isn't brown hair the most common? I've never heard a guy who actually likes brown hair, it's always blond, red or sometimes black
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>>32612196
Again, you're going to have to be more specific. I feel like I've only talked about like two of my friends ITT anyways. My bestie and the one I tried dating.
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>>32612185
>Is that not just shitty management from the men already in the company then
True but it's also an attempt to not to cater to the core audience, which is also male.
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>>32612202
I think those are all the details I remember
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>>32612201
>I've never heard a guy who actually likes brown hair
>all those songs from the 70s and 80s that reference hot women with brown hair
...?
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>>32612194
No I mean that your ex is collecting FWBs lol
>>32612199
Wait who are you
>>32612204
>attempt to not to cater to the core audience
Are we talking about vidya?
I think this is more of a problem of CEOs in general being out of touch with gamers
There are loads of women in the industry who has designed and made great games
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>>32612200
Compatibility is a two way street, anon. It's no individual's fault that a couple isn't compatible.
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>>32612211
>There are loads of women in the industry who has designed and made great games
And yet all the AAA games start to fail when females hit a critical mass in the industry and attempt to change it to their will... hmmmm....
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>>32612207
Well the answer is yes regardless. All my girl friends have guys now. Even the bi ones.
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>>32612216
>Even the bi ones
Shame
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>>32612215
Most AAA games these days are pretty shit imo, smaller studios have always made better games
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>>32612189
>Like I said, they're really compatible.
Kind of happy for them to be honest. I wonder how long it will last.
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>>32612211
>I think this is more of a problem of CEOs in general being out of touch with gamers
Video games fail when they cater to everyone, if you pick a gender or a subsection of that gender and make a game for them, you may make something that has mass appeal but I don't think you can make a game that is for "everyone" in the same way that men and women don't wear the same clothing.
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>>32612215
AAA games were never good
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>>32612221
If she ends up settling down with him and gets married and pregnant before I do, I think I'll actually just kms.
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>>32612224
Women can afford to date because traditionally they don't have to pay for anything, the women who aren't dating are women who aren't pretty enough to have their shit paid for and most dudes who are average, if they can get a date, are just trying to keep their heads above water and survive.
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>>32612201
Brown and black are my favorite hair colors for women.

Source: Me, a statistical data point of one.
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>>32612197
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M29
I penis in vagina sex last night for the first time in my life but didn't cum, am I still a virgin?
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>>32612211
>Wait who are you
Nobody you'd want to get kidnapped by.
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>>32612226
Zoomer opinion, but I can understand where you are coming from you missed the era when games were good and every month was exciting as fugg.
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>>32612227
:(
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>>32612220
Yeah indie has been killing it recently.
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>>32612224
Huh?
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>>32612233
Yes. I've been taking dick for 11 years but I'm still a virgin too
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>>32612201
NTA. Guys like brown hair. Just as we like blonde, red and black.
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>>32612237
probably right. I'm taking it to the extreme a bit because there are some old games I like like bioshock 1 and 2 (though they really don't hold up imo)
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>>32612240
I know, that's not cool of me to say. I should be happy she's happy. I'm just sick and going through facesitting withdrawals.
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>>32612201
you've never heard a guy say he likes brunettes? really?
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>>32612251
You're still sick? I was sick for the couple of past days and I was wondering why you did this to me. I feel better today though >>32611923.
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>>32612244
Went up abruptly in 2022-2023.
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>>32611240
State gender
Which one is the hottest?
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>>32612170
Frankly I think I would like a gf that rapes me but I realize that's not your point
I understand why they do it but I'm frustrated at the lack of social groups I can join, as a man with more feminine hobbies and interests
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>>32612258
I thought I was getting better, then I coughed up a lung last night and couldn't sleep. Shit sucks. I just want to breathe normally again. And also get fucked.
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>>32612261
F. Both 1980's look like they eat pussy best.
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>>32612260
No I mean the question doesn't make sense not the graph
>>32612261
F
1900s man 70s woman
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>>32612262
can I drug you and fuck you while your out of it?
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>>32612263
Wish I could help you with both those things. But alas, all I can do is keep you in my thoughts.
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>>32612265
>No I mean the question doesn't make sense not the graph

Would a graph about women's dating standards make sense?
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>>32612261
M
1990s girls and onward. They look pretty similar to me.
It looks like 1900s had the hottest men and the ugliest women. I don't know what to make of that.
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>>32612277
I don't think it'd corelate with the other one if that's what you're asking
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>>32612284
Why not? Right after COVID, a lot of women found partners. Then something happened.
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>>32612287
You don't think that has more to do with the whole "the stability of my world has been shaken, things I took for granted are not as set in stone as I thought and that scares me" thing than "woah eggs are getting expensive"?
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>>32612290
I don't think women ignore their long term financial goals when they pick a man and there's usually a financial role for guys to fulfill.
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>>32612201
Brown is the best
>blonde
She's a dumb bitch
>red
She likes to have sex with randos
>black
She's some kind of ethnic or french
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>>32612294
I don't think that role is influenced by inflation she's marrying him for life not for that fiscal quarter. You're not thinking big picture.
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>>32611240
Which white women are most likely to have black hair?
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>>32612266
Hell yeah, I'm down for that kinda thing. I've wanted to experiment with drugs during sex. I saw a movie once that gave me a fantasy where a girl trying to drug her husband takes a sip of his (drugged) wine because he wasn't drinking it fast enough, then kisses him and transfers it to his mouth. I kinda wanna experience that
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>>32612301
Yes, but if he can't keep up at a specific moment then his utility diminishes, even if that moment is exceptional.
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How to cope with being banished from society and being BTFOd nonstop
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>>32612271
I appreciate the thoughts. Especially the sec thoughts.
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>>32612302
Fictional ones. I have never seen a white woman with black hair, only very dark but still brown
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>>32612307
>if he can't keep up in a specific moment
That doesn't mean the standard is influenced by inflation though. The standard is the standard it just become apparent he doesn't meet it when put under stress because of inflation.
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>>32612313
>it just become apparent he doesn't meet it when put under stress because of inflation
So the chances of him being excluded from the pool of candidates is, therefore, higher?
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>>32612309
Stop being a incompetent weirdo.
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>>32612316
I don't think so. I think a woman would see the problem faster in times of economic hardship but she's gonna figure it out eventually either way.
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Women, how often can I tell you the same compliment before it gets stale?

I know you're a very good singer. You know you're a very good singer. You know I know you're a very good singer. I know you know I know you're a very good singer.
Is there any point in repeating that every time you sing to me?
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>>32612320
It's undeniable that a man's ability to provide at all times weighs heavily in relationships.
What can happen is that the man she plans to marry "for life" is replaced with another one. That might be the big picture.
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>>32612322
No, I prefer to only get compliments when I have outdone myself.
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>>32612317
I lost stuff. I might get diagnosed with a severe disease and die
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>>32612324
>that a man's ability to provide at all times weighs heavily in relationships.
Right. So she's not going to be concerned about it only when inflation is high it's going to be a consideration no matter what. What are you not getting?
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>>32612328
everyone has issues
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I had a dream about radiator femanon. Her hot body and outfit but with my ex girlfriend’s face. What does this mean?
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>>32612335
that you are horny?
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>>32612325
So almost never, after the get to know you phase?
Unless you're one of those rare people who always keep doing new things.
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>>32612335
>radiator femanon
?
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>>32612344
Yeah, I don‘t really like praise for the sake of praise. I only like it when I feel like it‘s well earned.
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>>32612338
I think it means she’s supposed to be my wife
>>32612347
AKA london femanon apparently. If you search radiator in the archive you’ll find the picture she posted this week.
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>>32612331
You are a sin with legs.Walking sin.
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>>32612335
A-anon . . .
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>>32612357
Holy kek. This is good
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>>32612355
will you cry about that too?
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>>32612330
I get that but dating involves progression and changing your standards. Otherwise women would have 1-2 partners per lifetime, but that's not the case, not when everyone has half a dozen past relationships in their mid 20s.
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>>32612362
You woke up on the wrong side
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>>32612369
not my problem
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>>32612352
>AKA london femanon apparently. If you search radiator in the archive you’ll find the picture she posted this week.
Oh, her. Yeah, she's ridiculously hot (pun intended). Got a 24 hour ban because of her.
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>>32612261
M
50-70s women look naturally pretty, probably the 60s.
>>32612357
You want compromise?
20 years in the can.
I wanted to fuck a woman.
I compromised. I jacked off into a radiator instead.
I wanted manicotti.
I ate grilled cheese off the tissue instead.
You see where I'm going with this?
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>>32612366
My standards have changed with age and maturity, but I've never not been poor. Maybe if you asked a wealthy woman her answer would be different but as I'm not a fucking idiot I don't only notice if a guy is bad with money when shit's getting expensive.
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>>32612374
How? You can get banned for simping?
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>>32612384
everyone that dares to give pretty femanons any attention gets b&
jannies are next level incels kek
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>>32612379
>I don't only notice if a guy is bad with money when shit's getting expensive.
Financial *literacy* doesn't seem to have a positive influence on how dateable a guy is. It's rather all about how much he makes, and bad decisions such as using all of his money to purchase an expensive car don't have consequences. If anything, they're rewarded.
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>>32612388
nta but if you can afford it then buying an expensive car is not a bad decision
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>>32612388
>doesn't seem to have a positive influence
Are you asking 23 year olds
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>>32612384
Apparently simping is not relevant for giving or getting advice.
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>>32612384
Based jannies, if true
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>>32612322
For me it's not about the content of the compliment, but rather how sincere it is. Showing and voicing that you are honestly taken with something about someone never gets old. If that were true, beautiful women wouldn't want their partner to keep commenting on their beauty either, when most do enjoy that.

The thing is there is a difference between a polite or performative "you're great" and when she can tell you are feeling it. If you're feeling it, it's always good. If you aren't, don't force it and if anything, compliment her continuous effort, her attempts to experiment/branch out, tell her you can hear she worked on it or whatever, but it's not necessary or fun if you feel you must keep mentioning she is a great singer every single time she sings. That'll become a chore for both of you to sit through.
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>>32612392
ah yes, here is the incel that keeps reporting people for „off topic“
when was the last time you had fun? 2004?
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>>32612390
I'm talking about using all of your available savings to get a 60k car or something like that.
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>>32612397
nobody does that except balkan immigrants - which are not dating material to begin with
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>>32612233
There isn't actual consensus on when you do or do not lose your virginity, if you think there is, just ask a biggish group of people if someone who had oral sex can still be considered a virgin if they have never had penetrative sex.

But I think you would have to search much longer and harder to find somone who draws the line at climaxing during sex. Losing your virginity just means you were first introduced to sex, got a first impression of what that can be like. Doesn't mean you did, felt or experienced all there is to feel by a long shot.
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If i get rich im still going to drive my $1200 shitbox
maybe I'll have the engine rebuilt and a paintjob but I'm not going to stop being an eyesore to the normalfags who keep telling me to buy a newer car because mine "embarrasses them"
thoughts women?
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>>32612396
Not me. I'm the simp who got banned. (Although I'm sure many anons were banned that day.)
I just answered the question.
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>>32612403
absolutely cringe
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>>32612403
I read "$1200 shitbox" and imagined some dude on a go kart with a porta potty on top with the door open driving around as people look at him taking a shit while the Bad Piggies theme plays.
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>>32611240
State gender
What's your hot take?
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>>32612351
More power to you. But if you've worked hard at getting good at something, the thought of taking you for granted doesn't quite sit well with me.
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>>32612407
Its a 2nd gen taurus
imagine this but with more clearcoat fade and rust
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>>32612414
my quasar tier hot take is that women are kinda stupid but I still love them

theyre unaware of how much theyre guided by stupid shit
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>>32612403
You care too much about what other people think of you.
Looking like shit on purpose is a defense mechanism to protect you from having your feelings hurt from criticism.
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>>32612415
Thats not taking it for granted. You can still be grateful if my skills bring joy to your life, like saying thank you for the yummy dinner but you don‘t have to act like you tried my cooking for the first time every time. That would be very cringe.
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>>32612404
What was the question?
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>>32612418
Babe we're not unaware this is a conscious choice
Life is more fun for stupid people
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>>32612414
F
Incels should be kidnapped bi-yearly to complete an obstacle course by the government and not allowed to leave until they complete it or until a woman comes along to take him as her pet
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>>32612426
Moid post
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>>32612422
Just follow the reply chain, idiot.
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>>32612426
Was making them all fit part of your plan?
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>>32612430
Oh I thought you meant answering a question is what got you banned
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>>32612426
Obby like wipeout or obby like Squid Game, because I wouldn't mind getting a free trip, housing, and chance to do one for free as long as I don't die.
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>>32612421
>Thats not taking it for granted.
Guess not, but fear it might seem like it.

Thanks for the advice, femanon.
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Why do women insist for their bf to open up about their feelings if they will get the ick if he gets emotional?
No, Rebecca, I won't tell you what's bothering me because I know if I do it you will leave me for Tyrone the next day.
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>>32612436
It's more like wipeout, non-lethal and you're free to retake it as many times as you want until you pass
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>>32612437
maybe if the girl loves words of affirmation
you can also ask her what she prefers
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>>32612444
its only an ick if what bothers you is pathetic
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>>32612444
can i ask, has this actually happened to you, personally? you had a girlfriend, told her you had a bad day or were insecure about your belly or something, and she broke up with you?
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>>32612434
No, I was clearly simping. Because again, she's jawdroppingly hot.
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>>32612414
F
The world would be much better off if we had a population of one billion.
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>>32612414
M
5/3/1 bills itself as full body but the triumvirate on the website leaves out too much accessory work.

Those new Linkin Park songs with chester girlington the scientologist are pretty allright
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>>32612444
theyre unaware of it
have you ever had a fantasy happen in real life and just suck?
its kind of like that I imagine.
they like the idea of an emotional man, not the reality of it
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>>32612450
Bill Gates, is that you?
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Femanons, if you found out an anon here was so infatuated with you he spent hours digging through the archive to find ever photo you’ve posted and everything about you would you find this sweet?
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>>32612455
we just want a man who‘s emotions are not cringe
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>>32612456
Let's open this box of mosquitos and find out.
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>>32612456
No, I just value quality over quantity.
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>>32612457
yeah
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>>32612445
Hell yeah dude, that sounds awesome.
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>>32612463
>>32612450
which ones would you remove
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>>32612459
jokes on you I never show my emotions
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>>32612457
I'm glad I don't post photos any more
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>>32612426
>a woman comes along to take him as her pet
I will be chilling in the lost child collection point zone
>>32612414
M
Pineapple on pizza is pretty good desu
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>>32612444
When I get the ick it's because he had an inappropriate emotional reaction to something. Like crying because I got a haircut or smth. Or being really angry at his coworkers for something that was definitely his fault.
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>>32612444
I feel this is mostly a young girls' thing. When they say they want the guy to be emotional, they are picturing a romantic and deepfelt heart to heart where maybe at some point his eyes brim with tender emotion, like in the movies. They don't picture him maybe having a breakdown on the spot because he is remembering a traumatic event in his life she feels totally out of her depth with. When you have always been used to guys being lighthearted, optimistic or stoic, solution-focused companions, it can be hard to really anticipate in advance how you will feel if the guy you rely on the most turns out to be no less human, vulnerable, damaged etc than you are.

But people learn from life experience, not even just in relationships, also stuff like siblings or opposite sex friends opening up more the older they get. I have been friends with two men for fifteen years and they simply were unable to talk about (their own or others') emotions ten years ago the way they can now, even if they had wanted to. Women usually practice a lot more with this in female friendships than men do in male friendships.

Anyway, it is hard to say what happens behind closed doors, but it is hard for me to imagine a serious long term relationship in which the woman doesn't see the man cry or break down otherwise at some point, being that common. I have definitely not been in a relationship like that myself, nor have my best female friends whose relationships I know best not experienced those moments.
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>>32612450
>one billion.
nah more like 200 million
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>>32612414
M
Women need eugenics more than men do, we should lock women into deep mines filled with mutated rat creatures that will eat them alive if they cannot fend for themselves.
Only the strongest and most resilient ones will be allowed back to the surface.
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>>32612448
>dating my first gf a few years ago
>accidentally cried in front of her because I felt like I wasted all my potential in childhood
>she breaks up with me next week for """unrelated reasons"""
I never opened up to any gf ever again.
>>32612455
>fantasy
but they constantly say they don't like emotional men, it doesn't make sense
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>>32612467
this is why you are single
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>>32612466
The better question is which people should remain: All Europeans, the Japanese, Armenians, Georgians, Persians, and....that's it, I think.
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>>32612479
Nta
Unfortunately you showed yourself as not emotionally stable. Well adjusted normal men don't cry about wasted childhoods because that didn't happen to them.
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>>32612485
armenians are cool
I had an armenian girl in my class I had a crush on a long time ago
plus theres only like a couple of hundred of them left anyway
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>>32612485
Fucking weeaboo.
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>>32612479
capable men don‘t bemoan wasted potential and instead get to it and do what can still be done
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>>32612464
Youre a piece of shit with eyeballs
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>>32612484
Ive been in long term relationships though
some complained but I never fell for the "show me your emotions" trap

of course I still laugh and stuff Im not a complete autist
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>>32612479
in your original post, you framed it as if she asked you to open up first; in this situation, it sounds like you kinda just had a meltdown unprovoked. was this very far into the relationship, or were you newly together when this happened? i think it's somewhat cruel either way, but it does certainly sound like she was concerned about you being a headcase and very emotionally volatile rather than just sad about something from your childhood.
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>>32612486
>why do men bottle up their emotions? Are they retarded?
>Unfortunately you showed yourself as not able to bottle up your emotions
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>>32612497
You're unstable because you care about something a mentally healthy person wouldn't be bothered by not because you don't bottle up your emotions.
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>>32612491
NTA but bemoaning wasted potential can very much be part of the process of letting it go and moving your focus to the future. Wallowing and feeding your own hurt isn't good, simply acknowledging and feeling it when you are spontaneously hit by it, is. Working too hard to avoid negative emotions only gives people issues like resentment.

Also not all wasted potential is equal. Crying about how you didn't apply yourself enough to be as successful today as you could have been, is hardly comparable to crying about how you never had anyone who gave a shit about you around to get or keep you on any good track in terms of your own future.
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>>32612495
as i said, this is why you are single
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>>32612414
M
Women should stay away from sports
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>>32612261
M
Males 60s or before
Women 50s or 40s
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>>32612494
love you too anon
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>>32612302
Black hair doesn't occur in whites, if you are "white" with black hair, you have asian in you somewhere
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>>32612501
the difference is that the weak men use it as an excuse to be apathetic and complacent, it‘s very obvious which category someone falls into
>never had anyone who gave a shit about you around to get or keep you on any good track in terms of your own future
boo hoo, thats most people, get over it and stop the cringe excuses to not do what you should be doing
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>>32612414
F, not the most controversial probably but I am really sick of constantly being exposed to ads that tell me I am living my best life or working towards living my best life. It feels invasive, hollow and relentless. I wish it more regularly went back to "this is a good product that is durable and cheap, get it now" rather than trying to tell me I am beautiful and free and always striving for more or whatever inane therapy meets peptalk script.
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>>32611240
State gender
Thoughts on this?
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>>32612513
f
ok incel
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>>32612510
Fair, I know what you mean and have seen it a lot too.
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>>32612513
F
Is it supposed to be funny she clearly wrote this herself
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>>32612414
M
Antinatalism is a sensible reaction to the current state of the world
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>>32612496
My current gf is nagging me to open up about my feelings ( >>32612444 ), but I won't do it because I know what happens next ( >>32612479 ). Granted, younger me was retarded and I don't get emotional about childhood stuff anymore, but my point still stands.
>was this very far into the relationship, or were you newly together when this happened?
About a year. 12 months of my life wasted.
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>>32612518
It's a parody of this
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>>32612525
Ok
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>>32612506
May god love you with all of his love
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Why do women take so much meds?
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>>32612518
>>32612525
>>32612527
More context.
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>>32612521
Different anon, but you can also go the other way, open up about vulnerable stuff (not stuff you don't want just anyone to know, just showing your vulnerable side in a way that is comfortable) and only date those who do not walk away.

I get that after being with a partner for a long time, your love growing and all this time you have not opened up much, there's so much on the line when it comes to her response. But realize you are also setting yourself up for failure by holding out this long and playing the stoic so well. I am a woman who is not scared of emotions in men, and I would not date anyone for twelve months if I haven't seen any real personal emotion from them in that time (other than the happy relationship stuff), it would make everything feel distant. By dating women who are not bothered by this or actively enjoy it, you personally lower the odds they will respond well if you suddenly do let go and show what's inside...

Maybe this is a silly comparison, but I'm a woman not big into dolling myself up and for this reason I would never go to a first or early date with a full face of make up on. If that's (indeed) what he really wants, we are incompatible! Better find out quickly.
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>>32612530
Deluding myself into being hopeful that something can fix me
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>>32612525
>>32612531
Part of the reason I quit computer engineering was because I saw how pathetic the men in my class were and I didn't want to become like then.
I'm now in medicine.
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>>32612531
Ok
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Feminism did unspeakable damage to foids their brains but unironically its a reaction to moids lacking.
Foids just want to be subjugated by a man that's fit and educated and looks good, which most moids can achieve by themselves easy. Foids went into protest when moids stopped doing that and they did not want to be the housemaid of a fat useless lazy TV watching rude moid.
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>>32612459
It's so over.
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>>32612548
You're not entirely wrong I can't trust any of these idiots to make good decisions and I don't want to watch him play videogames it would be stupid to want a traditional marriage with a modern man.
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Can male children actually be molested? Or is it fine in most cases?
I'm a woman who is reconstructing her moral code. I know most female children would be traumatized and so would I, but is it actually different for boys?
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Men, if you didn't/don't care about bodycount, would you start seeing sex workers?
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>>32612533
I don't like this way of thinking because it assumes people treat others fairly.
The truth is:
>If a tall dude does something silly he's seen as funny but it a short dude does the exact same thing he's seen as immature
>if a rich dude wastes 50% of his wealth on stupid shit he's living out life to its fullest, but if a poor dude does the same he is retarded
If I was a 10/10 gigachad maybe I could get away with being honest about my emotion, but I'm not and therefore I can't.
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>>32612567
seeing them as what
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>>32612566
It's still molestation even if he wasn't traumatized wtf
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>>32612558
>and I don't want to watch him play videogames
Damn why do women hate men that play videogames so much? I can understand if he played pvp games and was raging and crying through the night when he's losing but I love adventure games or MMO's like LOTRO.
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>>32612459
Are "we" allowed to want a woman who's behavior isn't cringe end-to-end?
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>>32612538
NTA. I thought about going in to medicine as an aimless youth. I ended up in software engineer.
In retrospect I'm 100% sure I couldn't have hacked it as an doctor.
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>>32612567
As a client? Yeah
As a partner? Only if she's no longer a sex worker
I currently have an escort that I'm a client to every couple of months
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>>32612577
>but I love adventure games or MMO's like LOTRO.
This does not make it attractive to women though
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>>32612568
>because it assumes people treat others fairly.
Not necessarily. Just that if something is really important to you - and I would absolutely vouch that having a partner who is able to support and understand you emotionally should be - it is worth specifically searching for. And if that's what you want, you need to make them prove they can handle it early on, not after they have grown attached to you being different.

This applies whether it's 1 in 10 or 8 in 10 women (in whatever age bracket you ook) who are capable of this, emotionally.

You will never know how your looks factor in, they factor in always, for everyone, that's indeed just how it is. If I had really poor skin naturally, less men would find me attractive with the bare face I like to sport. If I had a more Instagrammy face still, more men would find me attractive with it. That's just how it is and I don't see how it changes a desire to find someone who likes you for you.
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>>32612577
basically what I said >>32612568
It's perfectly fine to be a WOW addict if you a handsome and/or tall.
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>running a private project zomboid server with femanon
is that too much to ask for
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>>32612566
Male children can be bullied by older women and even their mothers. Usually god doesnt slit these women's throats and condemn them to the lake of fire though
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>>32612566
>this post
Faith in humanity dwindling.
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>>32612577
It's a vibes thing the kind of person who's into gaming and would choose to play a new game they just bought on a saturday over a hike isn't a person like me. Excluding men who consider videogames a hobby is just a time saver in the selection process.
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>>32612521
>every woman is the same
Untrue, even if most are there are many of us that aren't superficial.
But you can't get rewards without the risk, anon. My boyfriend cried within the first 10 minutes of our first date and told me his childhood trauma on the second date. Throw it out there and don't waste time on someone who will never be able to bond with you. Relationships are WORTHLESS without the truth.
(and no he isn't tall nor a Chad before you pull that)
>>32612533
Correct opinion put less insanely than mine. The answer is just to keep dating people until you find someone good, which is torture and torment and hell but so worth it when you win.
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>>32612579
Nta
You're supposed to find me endearingly clueless most of the time but sometimes I surprise you by being funny or reminding you I'm actually intelligent I'm just not trying because being a ditz is more fun, not cringe :(
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>>32612566
Male
Current theory for why I am terrified of penetrative sex and having my pp touched is that I was molested as a kid. I also have at least one part of my memory that's missing so it's possible I just repressed it
So basically yes male children can be molested
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>>32612579
NTA. Yes. But we can't expect to get what we want.
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>>32612587
>project zomboid
good mechanics, retarded endgame
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>>32612596
>(and no he isn't tall nor a Chad before you pull that)
You must be a 300lbs goblin
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Sticking out your gyatt for the rizzler..
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>>32612530
>rawdogging it since 35
Based
Also
>only being prescribed one or two med
*laughs in bipolar*
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>>32612603
>But we can't expect to get what we want.
Women do expect to get what they want.

>>32612598
Unprovoked surprises are breakup material.
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>>32612610
Minor
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>>32612566
...anon, no, it is not different for boys. If anything they might indeed just take longer to fully realize that what happened was very overwhelming for them at the time. This especially applies if the abuser was a woman they found attractive. But that in itself does not make the trauma less severe, if anything, it can make it MORE severe because inability to clearly see for yourself that you were a victim (because you did find her hot, you maybe even did fantasize about what became reality at first) makes you feel all the more dirty and complicit.

A child is unable to deal with adult sexuality. Even if they are drawn to the person or their body/looks, even if they masturbte all the time. A child switches moods every 10-30 seconds. They do not have the durable libido or even concentration abilities to sit out an adult sex session without starting to feel at best uneasy and at worst totally out of the loop and used. Some of the signs of arousal (a vacant stare, mouth hanging open, eyes rolling back, sounds like you are in pain) are terrifying to children who do not understand what they see. Someone much bigger than you being very physically close to your body and making you feel things (things that disgust you? things that feel wrong and right at the same time?) is scary and threatening. You feel powerless and unable to draw boundaries, like your body betrays you or turns out to belong more to others than to you. If you also enjoy things about the experience, this shame and self-hatred only deepens.

It is not fine, it is never fine. A lot of men have more issues than women speaking up about very damaging experiences. Oftentimes they even try to tell themselves what happened was fun, they were ready for it, etc. Looking at psychiatric literature though - no.
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>>32612610
I just wanna be your Shiori
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>>32612582
Women dont understand adventure games
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>>32612587
What is it about Project Zomboid that draws in the bpdsluts? Female or male, I only ever see tattooed and pierced hair dye people play it
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>>32612583
its not worth it. I can always go to a therapist to vent out about feelings if I want to, and they won't cheat on me or spread false rumors about me.
>>32612596
>no he isn't tall
5'10" is not short, femanon.
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>>32612617
How about dating someone your age
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>>32612619
its like sims but edgier.
women love sims for some reason
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>>32612598
>sometimes I surprise you by being funny or reminding you I'm actually intelligent
NTA. I love it when this happens. Although I feel like I can pretty quickly get a sense of if you're intelligent even when you're acting ditzy most of the time.
Don't know if that's just confirmation bias on my end, or what.
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>>32612624
What are yoi talking about
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why can't women into toothpicks
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>>32612621
nta, 6'1 is considered the cutoff these days
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>>32612596
>which is torture and torment and hell but so worth it when you win.
NTA, but you make it sound like some lottery/scam.
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>>32612613
>Women do expect to get what they want.
And most of them don't get it either.
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>>32612566
>Can male children actually be molested
Yes, what kind of a question is this lmao
>>32612567
I would date a former sex worker
I wouldn't see a prostitute
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>>32612621
>I can always go to a therapist to vent out about feelings if I want to
It's more than that, though. If you never tell your partner about your (past) issues or difficult experiences, they will understand a lot less about you and if ever in your life there comes a time (burn out/depression, suffering a big loss) where you start acting out, they will understand much less of your behavior and have a lot less empathy for it.

By allowing yourself to continue living in the assumption that no woman would still love you and be attracted to you knowing your pain, you also don't allow yourself to be proven wrong. While specifically seeing someone we adore see our pain and then find us just as strong, just as sexy, just as capable as before, is an incredibly healing experience. It is the ultimate proof that you do not need to live in fear, that you are fine just as you are. A therapist cannot do that, they can offer other things, be an outlet, support. But it is still different.
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Women
Would you date a guy that saw something horrible happen to an animal days ago and is still losing sleep over it because it's all he sees when he closes his eyes?
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>>32612637
Absolutely, as long as he would listen to me singing the praises of EMDR therapy.
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>>32612637
nag but your ancestors would attack mamoths with sticks and rocks and you're crying over roadkill
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>>32612521
well, i mean... this is how i see it.
you had a relationship; those aren't guaranteed to work out. usually they don't. your feelings spilled over and this woman didn't want to deal with it, so she left. this new one is asking you for those feelings; you're older and more mature, and you have a new person who says she wants to hear that part of you.

either you don't tell her, and you refuse to be who/what she wants by being closed off, or you do tell her. if you do, either she rejects you, and she's not who/what you want, who/what she said she was... or she accepts it, and things work out.
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>>32612630
6'5 is the cutoff
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>>32612637
>something horrible happen to an animal
Depends on how horrible. If it was some gory shit i totally understand and would support him all the way.
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What do girls mean when they say I’m “so sweet”
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>>32612641
I don't know what EMDR therapy is
>>32612642
It wasn't dead and also mammoths were killed for food not because some jackass was going 50mph in a parking lot and doesn't care about the lives of anything in his path
>>32612645
It was really bad but I don't want to bring other people down
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>>32612649
*don't want to bring other people down by describing it
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>tfw acting like my normal bubbly goofy self around this girl, but lowkey feeling a bit worse today than usual
>"anon are you all right? you seem a bit down in the dumps today"
Women how do you know...
This never happens with male friends
(Obviously I lied to her and told her I was good and just a bit tired)
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>>32612636
I'm grateful just for having someone and I don't want to lose it.
Maybe I'll let it happen naturally (like, when I accidentally let my feelings out) and then judge her reaction, but until then I don't want to risk being single again for no reason.
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>>32612609
I am quite average. I lift weights 4 times a week, my weight is healthy. I have stable employment and a promising career, I have never used substances. I have acne but am taking accutane and it's working.
I receive male attention from either lanky nerdy guys or artsy alt dudes, and lesbians occasionally. I assume this is because of how I dress. I would categorize my bf in the "artsy guy" group somewhat, but he transcends social categories.
I am likely autistic though, but if you want a relationship outside of social norms of course a woman who has no natural sense for social norms is going to be your dating pool kek. I mask well at this point and don't seem this nuts to most people.
>>32612621
He is 5'3". His face is pretty so I'm not a martyr or anything, he's extremely fuckable. He'd be upset if I didn't find him hot, I'm sure.
But women have diverse types, as I mentioned this is particularly true if you want to date someone with less regard for social expectations. The types of women I'm friends with and know will sexualize atypical men.
>>32612632
It kind of is. Finding someone you get on well with is a game of chance.
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>>32612649
>I don't know what EMDR therapy is
Look it up, it's worth keeping in mind even if I don't know how feasible it is to get around you. Very simple therapy that boils down to being asked about your experience, mixed with you following something moving (the therapist's hand, a light, can be anything) from left to right with just your eyes. Nobody knows quite how it works but it is really effective for trauma/PTSD and especially if the trauma is fresh and the memory has not been sitting very long. Somehow the rapid eye movements help processing/lifting the emotional weight of the memory.
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>>32612395
Thanks. <3
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>>32612651
Probably just reading your face or body language. Small stuff like
>you look a little pale
>your jokes are slightly more cynical
>she catches a very forlorn look on your face when you are lost in thought for a sec

Speaking for myself, the better I know someone, the bigger the chance I "just know" and cannot even break down consciously what I'm responding to, I just feel something is off.
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>>32612656
If I can do it alone then I might try it but there's no therapy available around me except spritual guidance/religious counseling
Thank you for the advice though
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Sorry everyone anon caught me using a half alive racoon as a fleshlight after I peeled it off the road.
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>>32612660
>you look a little pale
I do look like shit but not any worse than normal
>catches a very forlorn look on your face when you are lost in thought for a sec
This might've been it but honestly I was just thinking about vidya
>better I know someone, the bigger the chance I "just know
I see, so it's like subtle cues, but maybe women's intuition is real... (or they are just more attentive idk)
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Women, what is the dating app you had the most success with?
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>>32612662
That sucks. I am not sure if it would be possible to do it alone, because usually it does help a lot with calming yourself to have someone in control draw the boundaries and ask specific questions (and no others).

That said, I have heard playing Tetris a lot is often recommended after a traumatic experience for similar reasons, it seems to help the brain relax and process things better as a result, I think that's worth checking out. Expressing yourself through stuff like screaming (into a pillow), sharing with others what you saw and how it affected you (and being reassured and listened to in turn), drawing the images that haunt you etc can also do a lot to stop feeling like the memory is imploding inside. Best of luck anon.
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>>32612668
Thanks for the advice anon. I hope I can just forget it soon
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>>32612566
it is far from fine, but at the same time, trauma is a response to a situation, not a reality. in a case like his, it's better for his health to just let it go as something that wasn't a big deal.
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Women would you date a man who wants you to shower daily?
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>>32612666
ESO
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>>32612674
Everybody Sucks Online
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>>32612673
no, that would be bad for my skin and hair.
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>>32612655
>But women have diverse types,
Lies, all lies
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>>32612665
Yeah, the examples I mentioned really were just examples. Women are on average better at reading faces, if you have felt tired/angry/sad a lot in the past hours or days, it can show in your gaze or your subconscious movements. A cliche example is someone who is very tense and doesn't realize he keeps making a fist. That one is blatant but there are many others that are far more subtle.

>women's intuition is real
It is, intuition doesn't mean anything more than "knowledge we cannot really break down". Like anyone who has worked a certain profession for a very long time, will have a professional intuition/gut feeling they do not fully understand but know to be right. Our brains just pick up on a whole lot more stimuli than we consciously process. It is only mysterious in the sense that it's not transparent, it's no magic. And women on average take their intuition more seriously and hone it more. If whenever you have a gut feeling, you argue it with logic, you effectively shut up this subconscious voice and will not be able to use it optimally.
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>>32612651
Just a guess, your resting face is slightly different today and your demeanor seems forced
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>>32612548
Every article I read on male problems can be summed up as women saying "men need to stop being bitches"
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>>32612655
>It kind of is. Finding someone you get on well with is a game of chance.
Yeah, that's why it's not worth it for most men. But there are 8 billion people now, so it's not that big of a deal.
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>>32612673
My skin can't abide that, no
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>>32612141
>Also the boy was never even told that he was born a male until much later.
Exactly
turns out gender dysphoria can't be solved by brute forcing it. He should have been allowed to live as a man.
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>Be me
>Make an effort to shower daily and smell good
>Always wear clean clothes
>Women find me repulsive
>Woman itt a few days ago:
>Yeah so I only shower once a week and wash my trousers every two weeks and my bf doesn't mind

What does this imply?
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>>32612674
As in the elderscrolls MMO?
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>>32611240
>another girl I liked turned out to be a lesbian

Why does this keep happening?
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>>32612056
For knowing ear protection exists?
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>>32612686
Men have zero standards when it comes to dating
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>>32612072
It's never true communism
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>>32612686
If you only ever smell like soap I have to assume your natural body odor is so heinous you go to great effort to hide it

Someone who doesn't shower for a week and still doesn't smell that bad is a good thing lol
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>>32612688
They hate your namefagging attentionwhoring ass
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>>32612673
No. In practice I do usually shower every day (just not daily with soap because then I would be flaking away) but not always and it is super important for me that a partner is not quickly grossed out by me.
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>>32612680
>your demeanor seems forced
Maybe I am overcompensating a bit tbf
>>32612679
Wow this was actually very insightful, thanks for explaining
>>32612686
>Women find me repulsive
Do they? Presumably for other reasons
>What does this imply?
It implies that femanon needs better hygiene lol
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>>32612677
Different anon but she's not wrong. Men reacting with hostility and incredulity when hearing praise for less conventionally hot men, is part of the reason women shut up about it more.
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>>32612694
>If you only ever smell like soap
I smell like nice perfume
Don't shift goalposts
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>>32612688
You know all the women this happened with, try to see them all in your head and see what they all had in common that attracted you.

It is possible that you simply are into a certain attitude or combination of looks and style that is most sported by queer women. But if I had to make an educated guess, I would say it is the platonic way these women treat you, that made you feel safe or accepted and caused attraction. It is just a guess but I used to be into gay men more often than average and for me it was this, I felt like I could relax around them and that made me horny.
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>>32612697
Everyone is a namefag irl
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>>32612707
I am a sucker for women who are nice to me. Now if only I could get ripped and stop sounding like an idiot when I speak
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>>32612703
>Men reacting with hostility and incredulity when hearing praise for less conventionally hot men, is part of the reason women shut up about it more.
That is simply not true
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>>32612699
Skipping the occasional day or even two is fine, depending on circumstances. But the rule of thumb should still be shower every day.
A femanon last night stubbornly refused to shower more than once a week, seemingly on some principle, and that made me think that's too gross for me.
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>>32612710
If you dislike your voice, almost everyone hates their theirs back, don't take it seriously. If it's the things you say, well, having awkward conversations is usually the only way to start having better conversations eventually.

The obvious solution is to get one of the lesbians to wingwoman you and in the process use her gaydar to make sure you're not barking up the wrong tree again.
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>>32612703
>Quote
Women judge short men to be less for either a short- or a long-term mate ( Buss & Schmitt, 1993 ). In
contrast, women fi nd it very desirable for a potential marriage partner to be tall, physically strong,
and athletic. A study of women from Britain and Sri Lanka found strong preferences for male
physiques that were muscular and lean ( Dixon, Halliwell, East, Wignarajah, & Anderson, 2003 ).
Women also prefer and fi nd attractive men with a “V-shaped” torso—broad shoulders relative to
hips ( Hughes & Gallup, 2003 ). Another good index of physical formidability is handgrip strength
( Gallup & Fink, 2018 ), which may be why men sometimes show of in mate-attraction tactics by
volunteering to open the lids on jars that are especially difcult to open ( Buss, 1988a ).
>End quote
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far too many stalkers/eavesdropper out there
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>>32612714
I feel like I sound like a 12 year old on call of duty. I don’t think any of my female friends would wingman me, they’re all very shy
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>>32612711
This absolutely has been my experience. I love bigger men and for as long as I can remember, I have found myself in situations where a friend asks which guy you find hottest in the room and you can choose between an uncontroversial pick or a very awkward moment. Especially a guy your age who thinks you're cute, will be easily grossed out to hear you say you just love a bearded man with a belly, trust me. You're lucky if it gets dismissed with a crude daddy issues joke.
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>>32612719
>Generalizing
Woman moment

For everything else see >>32612716
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>>32612723
>>Generalizing
>Woman moment
M and NTA. Fuck off. Men here generalize at least as much, if not more, than the women do.
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>>32612688
You despise yourself and you like women who are repulsed by you as well
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Damn that study citation really reminded me that humans are ultimately still just animals at the end of the day still ruled by their nature, slaves to it infinitely.
Absolutely brutal. It really disassociates you from the species and makes you start viewing people as just animals interacting no different from wolves or cats.
We can mock reddit all we want, they're unironically right about the chemicals and nothing mattering science shit, because it's true more than even they know.
State gender.
At what age did you realize humans aren't the romantic self images of the species we put up all over the media and are really just overgrown chimps making buildings out of corpses pretending we aren't terrifying animals?
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>>32612716
What does this prove? I can find ten studies showing how universal men's preference for youth, youthful features and a dramatic hip-waist ratio is. Does that prove men do not have types or individual preferences?

>>32612723
>Generalizing
I have only lived as myself and cannot speak with the same certainty for anyone else. But my female friends also have individual preferences that are not all equally conventional. The few times I have heard men discuss a woman dating someone conventionally unattractive, it was either in terms of the guy being a king for "landing her" (aka she's not really into him, just putting up with him), or they talk about it like she could do better and should respect herself more (again, this happens more often if they like her personally or just think highly of her attractiveness in general).

Take it as you wish.
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>>32612735
This is a possibility
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>>32612733
>M and NTA. Fuck off. Men here generalize at least as much, if not more, than the women do.
Oh hear ye the white knight! How many points do you have in your save M'Lady account?
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>>32612737
I'm Evropean and have the Favstian spirit so I have never and will never relate to that.
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>>32612738
>What does this prove?
this does prove that, on average, women prefer tall muscular guys

> But my female friends also have individual preferences that are not all equally conventional.
Your female friends do not represent the average woman and are thus not representative of women in general
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>>32612737
Women usually commission rape.
Men usually commission femdom.
Moral is that both genders are lazy pieces of shit who want their partner to do all the job in the bed.
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>>32612737
I have another one for you:

Tall men are consistently seen as more desirable as dates and mates than are short or average
men ( Courtiol, Ramond, Godelle, & Ferdy, 2010 ; Ellis, 1992 ). Two studies of personal ads
revealed that among women who mentioned height, 80 percent wanted a man to be 6 feet or
taller ( Cameron, Oskamp, & Sparks, 1978 ). Personals ads placed by taller men received more
responses from women than those placed by shorter men ( Lynn & Shurgot, 1984 ). Indeed, a
study of the “hits” received by 1,168 personal advertisements in Poland found that a man’s
height was one of the four strongest predictors of the number of women who responded to the
male ads (the others being education level, age, and resources) ( Pawlowski & Koziel, 2002 ).
Tall men are perceived as more dominant, are more likely to date, and are more likely to have
attractive partners than shorter men (see Brewer & Riley, 2009 , for a review).
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>>32612737
I beg your pardon, I am, in fact, a romantic.
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>>32612737
>humans are ultimately still just animals at the end of the day still ruled by their nature, slaves to it infinitely
The strangest thing about this post is that you're somehow surprised by this.
>It really disassociates you from the species and makes you start viewing people as just animals interacting no different from wolves or cats.
You're no better than the rest of us. Also what it SHOULD do, is teach you to have more empathy with animals. And in extension other human beings.
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>>32611240
Women,
What are attractive career paths for men?
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>>32612748
>this does prove that, on average, women prefer tall muscular guys
I never said they didn't, though, just that it wasn't "lies" that women also have preferences and types. That can co-exist with there being trends.

M8, you're on an internet forum wishing to discuss the real inner feelings of half of mankind. If you want to get scientific, nobody is able to say shit. Hell even if there WAS a study, nay-sayers would just say women all self-report as more open-minded than they are, just like stats about women's sexual partners are dismissed with the argument that they misrepresent themselves.

I don't think in this debate it gets more concrete or meaningful than someone telling you that in their experience you are wrong. Hell, even on here I have gotten into plenty of arguments where someone says women only like one thing, I say nah I like chub, and then you get the "absolutely disgusting"/"cope because you are no doubt a lardass"/"it is against evolution to enjoy this" rage and not from female posters but from guys. Maybe you are right and I have spent all my online and offline life in a single bubble that is wholly removed from where the rest of mankind has their experiences. But I doubt it.

Hell I'll go one step further and say in my experience most young men do not want to hear anything about a woman's sexuality that is not potentially or directly related to themselves. Not fantasies he cannot personally fullfill, not past experiences he wasn't present for, and definitely not that she has a soft spot for something he sees zero appeal in.
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>>32612766
It is kinda disheartening when you hear women discuss things they like about men and you don’t fit any of them
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>>32612651
This bitch was basically Sydney Sweeny but hotter
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>>32612500
those are the same thing THOUGH
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>>32612762
Totally depends on the woman, her age and priorities. For very young women it will be stuff that is either romantic (being an artist or a great professor/teacher) or traditionally masculine (like a doctor, firefighter or police officer). I think the more people age the more they stop caring how sexy it sounds on paper and more how it impacts your shared life. Most people realize it is better being married to someone with a boring job that gives them joy and has them coming home early, happy and rested, vs being with a surgeon or whatever who doesn't really love their job and is burned out from it a lot.
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>>32612762
Everything that isn't something immoral or illegal. As long as he loves what he does and is good at it.
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>>32612766
>I never said they didn't, though, just that it wasn't "lies" that women also have preferences and types.
Yes, on average those types are:
>Tall
>athletic
>good financial prospects
>high social status
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>>32612510
This is a toxic person.
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>>32612766
>not past experiences he wasn't present for
A woman should not have past sexual experiences
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>>32612773
>Everything that isn't something immoral or illegal. As long as he loves what he does and is good at it.
Bullshit
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It's angry incel hours again.
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>>32612767
That's the thing though, the more women are encouraged to be open regardless of pleasing the specific audience they have, the higher the odds that the women into your niche will also speak up. I truly do not believe there is any specific subset of men that does not have their fans. E.g. my best friend in high school was super into Asian men and specifically their svelte, graceful and naturally rather hairless bodies, whereas I feel Asian men are one of the groups most typically not sexualized.

But people do not really expect women to have these personal feelings beyond wanting a tall/muscular/rich bf and then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy where the shock or judgment you feel when voicing a different opinion, makes you stay quiet more. It is absolutely no fun to voice your love for something and then have it shat over by others. What's the point then? Better enjoy it privately right?
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>>32612616
na
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>>32612774
Again though, I never said they weren't, I merely argued with a post specifically claiming women's interests are not diverse. Both are true at the same time. Just like men have diverse interests AND you can name some features they almost universally value and seek out.

>>32612781
Thanks for piping up to strengthen my point.
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>>32612486
>If you had a shitty childhood you should go fuck yourself
Huh?
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>>32612789
Is this pressure from women or men do you think? I feel like guys express their type more freely. Even guys into fat girls won’t get too much slack for it
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>>32612793
>Both are true at the same time. Just like men have diverse interests AND you can name some features they almost universally value and seek out
So let's summarize, you are a freak because you like the men the majority of women dislike
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How do I ask a guy if he's a virgin without offending/humiliating him?
Also, if he is, would he be humiliated if I talked about how hot it is that I'm taking his virginity?
I like virgin men but I know it's a sore spot for many.
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>>32612786
I’m not angry, I’m horny, and women owe me sex.
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>>32612797
I think it's a combination of factors, I feel the prevalence of eye candy for men and how well-known it is that porn is almost universally enjoyed by men in a wide variety of categories in terms of looks/age/race and all that, has done a lot for the public perception and acknowledgment that men are into a lot of things as a whole.

There is also the "key and lock" aspect where it is kind of expected and celebrated for men to be into MANY women in the first place, have a big sexual appetite and maybe rack up lots of partners. Then it is only practical to be into many different bodytypes and the likes.

Women are still expected to be picky and only sleep with someone who is "worth it" to them. Women rejecting a lot of men is still associated with self-respect, femininity and all that. So I think that also plays a role in men finding it more difficult to stomach that a woman does not just desire men (as an abstract group, rather than individual people), but men they consider a nasty bunch, to top it off!

I think in practice the pressure kind of comes from both men and women, but men will be much more openly negative. In my experience women will have at best a truly curious and joyful reaction and at worst a sort of patronizing "well good for you"-response, if they hear you are into something they don't understand. Men are more likely to actually look at you differently and find you less wholesome or whatever than before.
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>>32612802
Don't ask
You will know
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>>32612802
Just ask, I don’t think most virgin guys will care about you asking. Don’t come on too strong with the virginity fetish thing tho
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>>32612802
I think both genders would prefer not to talk about it
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>>32612789
>It is absolutely no fun to voice your love for something and then have it shat over by others
Dont spend much time on /tv/ /a/ etc etc do u?
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>>32612643
nta but failure is never an option. everything has to work out all the time
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>>32612800
Sure I guess, if you want to say anyone with a minority preference is a freak. But there are also many more minority preferences I don't have and other women do.
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>>32612812
I sure don't!
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>>32612802
>how hot it is that I'm taking his virginity?
You know that thing girls have where they don't want to be pumped and dumped, and don't want to be another notch in some guy's bedpost?
As a man who's never had sex, reading this made me uncomfortable in the same way.
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>>32612803
Literally not true. You just don't see it when you're not around.
>>32612805
No they don't.
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>>32612802
i'm not sure what to say other than make it clear how you feel about him being a virgin
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ladies, this video gives a rare insight into male to male friendship. what are your thoughts on it?
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>>32612827
Yes, you do. Bend over. NOW.
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>>32612827
Next youre going to tell me the tv keeps going after i turn it off or that the fridge light stays on when I close the door
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>>32612809
>>32612810
>>32612811
>>32612821
Damn, OK, thanks anons.
I won't talk about it then but I personally would like it if men in general would let women know. Otherwise there's unfair expectations being set and likely a worse time to be had for both.
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>>32612836
Brotha prolly gonna get fired for this
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>>32612802
Get drunk with him and tell him you love relieving men of their virginity, study his response. If you're quite socially good, you might even be able to do it in a way that makes you able to play it off as a joke if he looks disturbed.

Both you being specifically into (his) virginity and him striking you as a virgin has the potential to turn him off or worse. Doesn't have to, though, men that would be long glad for you to be into them for any reason at all, also exist.
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>>32612810
>I don’t think most virgin guys will care about you asking.
NTA. Only looking at it from one perspective. Consider that if if she has to ask, there's a risk the answer will be he's not a virgin. Consider how that guy might take it.
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>>32611240
Should I workout back or legs today
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>>32612651
how do you find girls to interact with that care about you like this. or anyone at all, for that matter
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>>32612802
Would you also advertise that you're a slut or how many men you've fucked?
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>>32612838
Gay.

>>32612839
>fridge light stays on when I close the door
It gets so dark in there and I can't release the light trigger when the door is blocking it.
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So it's all for nothing if you're not born tall CEO Chad?
>just be funny bro
>just have a good hygiene bro
>just have a good sense of style bro
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>>32612749
Nta
I want femdom but the kind where I'm doing lots of the work to make her feel good
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>>32612802
>You know.. I actually kinda like being a guy's first. Have you been with someone before?
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>>32612841
I kind of wish you would ask, actually. It makes it easier with an excuse to confess the sad truth. Although in most cases I'd have to assume you'll nope out of there as soon as you here the answer.
But like other anon said, maybe don't push so hard on the fetish angle.
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>>32612802
>How do I ask a guy if he's a virgin without offending/humiliating him?
Just ask. I don't mind telling a girl if we're alone and she doesn't seem like she's going to be creeped out by it
>Also, if he is, would he be humiliated if I talked about how hot it is that I'm taking his virginity?
Not humiliated but I would feel preyed upon, which isn't a bad thing but I would probably ultimately reject your advances because it would just make me feel horrible unless you wanted a relationship and my virginity is just a bonus to you
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>>32612849
If you have to ask, you fucked planning. Do better.
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Ok. So I'm writing this book, see. And the main character is this completely fictional character named "Luigi" who, despite coming from a well-to-do background, he finds issue with people in the world who do wrong to their fellow man in the name of gross self-enrichment and greed, so he becomes a sort of vigilante who investigates people like that, and then, sometimes, he kills them and has to hide and this repeats.
Completely original idea. Is there any chance, women, that you'd read this book series?
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>>32611256
nag but having been around 90% women all my life the only thing this is lacking is some kind of junk food wrapper in the bed and something broken because women never fix things themselves.
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>>32612836
nag and I don't have a clue on the larger context but just gonna admit that that clip of family guy gets me semi-hard
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Friendly reminder NO female in this thread will date you
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>>32612885
Duh, I don’t know any of them
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>>32612885
>Friendly reminder NO female in this thread will date you
Water is wet
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>>32612885
>Friendly reminder NO female will date you
Ftfy
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>>32611256
M. Why is there a bunch of cardboard boxes in an inaccessible space next to the closet?
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>>32612885
So I can just stop asking
>Would you date a...
questions?
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>>32611240
>>32612893

also, why did you post a pic of me...
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>>32612877
Does he keep the evidence like an idiot instead of tossomg it in any of the lakes he passed in several hundred miles?
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>>32612896
Should stop asking them any questions at all. 99% of them go unanswered anyway
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>>32612902
Why dont femanons ask us things, do they hate us bros?
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>>32612877
Does he walk around the area after with a manifesto in his backpack?
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>>32612902
>99% of them go unanswered anyway
Speak for yourself.
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Is it bad to use fatty pictures on dating apps if I'm no longer fat? I don't want to match with shallow guys and I don't know how else to filter them
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>>32612909
Seems fine to me. Please just don't put "don't like me if you don't like plus size women". I filter out any woman that puts that because it sounds like being fat is her whole personality. Besides that I happily like girls of all sizes
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>>32612909
You will get broken guys that way.
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>>32612909
You will only attract fat men.
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>>32612917
lol
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>>32612909
I imagine you would be filtering out some shallow guys that you might actually like. And you'd probably be baiting and disappointing some of the chubby chasers.
But it would be interesting if you did that experiment to see what would happen.
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What do you think the punishment in hell is for female manipulators? I vote for being boiled in excrement
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>>32612938
Who hurt you?
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>>32612909
>I don't want to match with shallow guys and I don't know how else to filter them
Who is going to tell her that thats the only thing left in the dating market now?
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>>32612941
Someone who cant love and would kill me for pinching a kid
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>>32612949
Am I the only nonshallow guy left?
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>>32612619
well you're just wrong. You only see tattooed and pierced hair dye people play it because that's the type of people you look at. We had a dozen ppl on our project zomboid server and 7 of them were women and not a single person male or female had haired tattoo or dyed pierce. Half of them were moms even.

To digress, despite all the major flaws that experience was really fun. In fact it might be the best cross-gender gameplay that could have ever existed. Grouping up with the bros for the "we need the guns let's raid the muldrough police station armory with shovels that should be good enough to fight our way in" while the women are OBSESSED with managing the farm house and go into an absolute panic and will likely DIE if they have to confront a single zombie as they amaze you with their inability to isometrically aim and not panic spam spacebar. And 9 out of 10 times they can't drive for shit but will still backseat drive you while you're trying to navigate crowds on your way to the furniture/clothing store with them so they can decorate. 11/10 experiences, taught us how our gfs will all get us killed in an actual zombie apocalypse but also how much you can love them when you open the door on the little bathroom they've been hiding in(for some reason...) to find them holding a bloody wrench and 7 dead zombies on the floor next to the broken bathroom window
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>>32612901
>>32612906
uh, yes. it's to raise the tension, you know, for the reader.
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Cried in front of my dad after he berated me about my anxiety.
He kept prodding and asking me why I'm constantly "making excuses" for not going places when I have a car, and a retail job where I have to interact socially, and I explained to him I am in a constant state of panic when I'm around people, and that's why I'm so exhausted all the time and can't pursue anything I want to do.
And that's when I cried like a faggot. He felt sort of bad and said "maybe we should bring you to a psychiatrist, they'll put you on fuckin anxiety meds, i dunno..". Doubt that'll actually go anywhere. He'll forget this happened, just like the last 50 times we've had this conversation over the span of 10 years
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I’m able to stay hard and keep going after cumming. Is this normal?
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>>32612885
I'd go on a date with few guys I've talked to ITT, based on what I know about them. In person, it's totally reasonable to assume that I wouldn't end up going on a second date with any of them, though.
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>>32612971
Am I one of them?
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>>32612769
>was
Bruh, she still is hot lol
>>32612802
I was never offended when girls asked desu (well they didn't usually ask if I was virgin but moreso what my bodycount was)
>would he be humiliated if I talked about how hot it is that I'm taking his virginity?
He shouldn't be cause that is hot
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How can i get a kid? I want a boy
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>>32612975
Possibly. I am awful at telling who's who until they make it obvious.
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>>32612836
NAG but wtf is up with Family Guy lol
>>32612850
Idk I got lucky and met her at a party
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>>32612982
I don't think I'm a known personality but I do interact often. If you're a known personality maybe I could narrow down interactions we've had?
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>>32612858
>good hygiene
>good style
>funny
This unironically can get you far even if you're not "chad"
>>32612909
That's actually based desu
I loved it when I met up with girls on Tinder and they were hotter IRL
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>>32612987
I'd rather not give anyone a big head about it.
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>>32612967
No. You'll be popular with the girls though.
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i'm an idiot. but even with all of my problems i want somebody to love me like you love a pet. i want somebody to love me unconditionally. when a cat throws up on the carpet you are annoyed but you forgive it because it's just a cat and it makes you happy and it needs you. i think it's a little demeaning but i want love more than i want dignity.
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>>32612963
Sorry to hear that bro
Boomers be boomers
The psych might be a good idea though if you guys can afford it, if the anxiety is impacting your life this much
>>32612981
Adopt I guess
Or get knocked up
Or I'll be your kid jk
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>>32612963
What is your question for the opposite gender?
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>>32612998
What makes you an idiot?
I hope you can find love
I would take care of a cat gf but would also hope she could eventually find her confidence and independence
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>>32612885
Just like in real life!
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>>32612954
>pinching a kid
And she would be right.
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>>32612998
The cat doesn't throw up on the carpet because it's intending to hurt you, the cat doesn't throw up on the carpet because it's refusing to try to change. If you make mistakes without intending to hurt someone, and if you are attempting to learn from your mistakes, then you will be loved through your mistakes and that love will be love for a human, not a pet.
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>>32613002
it was kinda just a vent. if anyone's had experience with therapy or anxiety meds i'd like to hear it. although most people arent as fucked as me. i've noticed even the most socially stunted channers have at least a couple friends. i've never had any at all
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>>32612993
Porn brained thing to say.
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>>32612955
Both man and woman say they aren't shallow but are.
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>>32613012
Then go to a psychiatrist for fucks sake.
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>>32613002
Up your nose with a rubber hose.

>>32612963
If you've done all you can to make it clear to him then the burden is on him to fucking understand. It's not your fault every time he refuses to understand and pretends that you haven't explained it all to him before already.
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>>32612963
yeah dude. that's the real problem if your dad realizes it or not. there's something about a parent that won't ever be there for their kid in the third hour that makes their kids crash out.
a sort of "uh there I gave him a talk he should just autostart and autopilot into what I think is "normal" now right?"
Like look at that language. "..maybe we should..."
No wonder life is full of anxiety. Can't ever have a male authority figure with the power of just going "I've set you up to see a psychiatrist"
instead it's just been ten years of stick poking. tears gotta happen because you're so overloaded with anxiety chemicals as dad berates you. I mean honestly, your systems are working perfectly normal for the situation you've been given.
I bet me telling you "You should go tell your dad exactly what you want" gives you anxiety.
Damn unfortunate. I hope you do get to a psychiatrist and start feeling better over time.
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>>32613024
He wants him to get his shit together. There is nothing to understand.
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>>32612967
Only the youngest bf I've had could do that. So I don't think it's common.
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>>32613027
>I've set you up to see a psychiatrist
Because anon is an adult and responsible for his own appointments.
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>>32613012
>it was kinda just a vent.
Which is off topic and can get you banned
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>>32613028
Dad needs to get his own shit together. His child has a job and is holding up his own end of the social contract with society. What more does this dad need, a child who's more assertive about meeting people and making friends? The father failed to model positive assertiveness, so who was the child supposed to learn it from?
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>>32612905
They're all gemstone teahouse users on safari, looking for "moids" to laugh at
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>>32613010
I loved her
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State gender
What book should I read?
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>>32613038
Anon is a grown ass person now. What his dad did or did not do is not an excuse anymore. He has access to all the help and resources necessary to learn how to be normal.
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>>32613043
Nobody loves people that pinch kids. Do better.
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>>32613044
Don't read the book I'm reading, it's boring.
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>>32613044
What have you liked in the past?
I mostly read about ancient rome, space opera, and stephen king books
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>>32613044
>What book should I read?
M. Northanger Abbey by Jane Austen.
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>>32613044
M
1984
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>>32613014
Possibly. If what foids say on atoga counts as as porn.
But I think literally the number one complaint I here from women about male sexuality, here and elsewhere, is how the sex abruptly stops when he cums and is satisfied. If anon is one of the freaks who've gotten around that it sounds great for him and his girl.
Although knowing the ironies of fate, he'll probably end up with on of the minority of women who won't appreciate his talent.
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>>32613029
I’m 29 and I’m still able to do this, though for women I’m truly attracted to
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>>32613045
>has a job
>has a car
>drives self to job, does job, drives home again
Normal enough to me. If Anon wants something else from their own life then that's their own business, but they've already reached normal.
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>>32613044
M
Learn to read braille with me so we can both sit in a pitch black room and read silently together
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>>32612984
how did you find yourself at the party
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>>32613056
What girls mean by that is not that they want to be jackhammered longer but that the guy should make them cum too. Most girls don‘t cum from penetration, so having a short refractory period doesn‘t really do anything for sex being more satisfying for them.
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>>32613061
My housemates threw a party, I was stuck
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>>32612998
>i want somebody to love me unconditionally
If you want unconditional love, get a dog. People don't love like that.
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>>32611817
>>32611833
There's a whole album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8PO16yrsNk
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>>32613033
that's not how it realistically works but ok boomer
my experience isn't with people with anxiety directly it's been people with eating disorders like anorexia. your advice is like "obviously you don't eat enough just check yourself in for anorexia"
like bro, they're already to the point that they are skipping the most primal function of all life; consuming food for energy to sustain itself. just telling them to go fix themselves on their own just doesn't work. its not a choice they can make anymore, and it's not just unfair to blame them for it it's outright cruel.
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>>32613058
You have really questionable standards for what a functional adult is like. I suppose because thats the most you were able to achieve. Which means you have nothing of value to say on the topic.
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>>32612981
>How can i get a kid? I want a boy
Grab one off the street.
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>>32613069
Either someone has the drive to get their shit together and take the necessary steps to do so or they don‘t and then trying to get them to get it together is just going to be a waste of everyones time.
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>>32612971
This is exactly what I was talking about. You're here too, wasting your Saturday. Yet somehow you've gotten the idea you're better than the average anon. that you deserve better. Who are you? What makes you special? Why do you assume nobody else here has anything worthwhile going for them? Do you think at all about the fact that there are actual human beings who wrote the letters you see on your screen?
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>>32613070
Nta but what makes someone a functional adult in your eyes?
(Imagine having a driver's license or steady job lol)
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>>32613044
M
The Myth of the Twentieth Century
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>>32613070
Come on down to 4chan and brag about how you have a gigantic friend circle that adores you and a committed wife who's head-over-heels crazy in love with you.
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>>32612967
>I’m able to stay hard and keep going after cumming. Is this normal?
It's fairly common when you're a teenager. It gets steadily less common as you get older.
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>>32613044
you should read smut
need a femanon to suggest the horniest, hottest, dirtiest, girl-gets-soaked reading it smut
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>>32613065
huh. my housemates and i barely talk to each other ever, and none of us have a social life, or at least bring anyone over
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>>32613078
Someone that finds a solution to their issue instead of giving up and waiting for others to fix their life for them.
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>>32613082
I’m 29 so I suppose it’s not that common at my age
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>>32612963
Then take yourself to a doctor. Stop waiting for someone else to do it.
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>>32613084
>my housemates and i barely talk to each other ever, and none of us have a social life
That sounds like the dream
Unfortunately I always find myself with extroverts and yapper girls (I like them though desu)
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>>32613076
Bruh you can have a high opinion of someone but just not click with them romantically. Saying that you probably wouldn't end up on a second date is not the scathing rebuke you think it is.
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>>32613081
Yes anon, having people like you is not actually that hard if you are not extremely insufferable.
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>>32613087
What needs to be fixed?
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>>32613091
it's absolutely not the dream. i want to kill myself from this crushing loneliness
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>>32613097
Can we trade bro
Real-talk though what's stopping you from going out and doing some social stuff? Is it anxiety?
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>>32613093
nta but it is though?? it's a huge insult lmao
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>>32613057
I want a guy who lasts a long time. The guy cumming sort of ruins the flow for me.
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What do I do as a man when an older wicked woman wants to make me commit suicide?
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>>32612885
>Friendly reminder NO female in this thread will date you
Met my gf on ATOGA, so....
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>>32613066
i love like that.
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>>32613099
yeah. just going up to people and talking to them without some sort of excuse is not a skill that i have. i'm in college rn and i have no idea how to make friends
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>>32613100
Nta but I do not blame anyone for not wanting to go on a second date with me
In fact quite frankly I am amazed when it happens
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>>32613090
dont have the money. literally have no idea how to do anything.
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>>32613063
Just get her there before u smash ezpz
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>>32613107
how are you not depressed
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>>32613102
Do you have a wicked stepmother or something
Can you not escape her
>>32613106
Does your college have clubs/societies or a student bar/socials or club nights or whatever?
Ik it's daunting but just have to put yourself out there a bit
I was quite lucky to have extroverted flatmates and we had common room parties and stuff so I just met people there even when I was really shy
Also don't drink too much but drinking a bit helps
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>>32613106
>in college rn
Now is the last time it will ever be easy.
Find a club that does things you like and go there
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>>32613096
How would I know? I don‘t know you and your life. Figure it out. That‘s part of the being capable of fixing your own life.
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>>32613074
what a cool world it would be if we all just operated on that concept.
man overboard? If he can't swim fast enough to catch up to the ship that's on him. turning the ship around is just a waste of everyone's time.
If a person suffers from a heart attack, it's on them for getting their shit together and getting their heart back in line.
etc.
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>>32613108
Idk how it works where you live but do you have health insurance or anything? Do you have a general doctor's you can call to help signpost you?
>>32613112
When did I say I wasn't depressed kek
But I'm quite happy being a single crazy cat uncle so I'm ambivalent
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>>32613118
I'm not them, I'm just here to offer compassion instead of condemnation. The latter is much too easy when we know too little.
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>>32613116
>Does your college have clubs/societies or a student bar/socials or club nights or whatever?
yeah. i'm just a fucking coward that's paralyzed by anxiety lmao
>Ik it's daunting but just have to put yourself out there a bit
real
>Also don't drink too much but drinking a bit helps
i'm an active alcoholic that only drinks alone in his room (i've never drank at a bar in my life)
>>32613117
i'm trying to get a job on-campus but i'm dragging my feet a bit with it
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>>32613119
Accidents and unpredictable situations where you can‘t help yourself are not the same as just being complacent and expecting others to do set your life up for you. But ofc you would not know that difference.
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>>32613105
>i love like that.
Then you unironically have a personality disorder.
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>>32613093
A single date isn't really enough to judge romantic attraction on, unless you're so incredibly shallow that you reckon you can suss someone's entire future in a half hour. You don't know what that person's day was like, or their week. You don't know if maybe their pet died or they just had to pay for a surprise car repair bill or whatever could go wrong in their life to put them in an off mood for that moment in time. There's more to a person than what you see in a single snapshot in time. Maybe you can afford to dismiss someone so casually if you have a thousand alternatives queuing up to replace them, but let's be honest if you're here that probably isn't the case. Love at first sight is a Hollywood myth, it takes years to truly build a bonding relationship with someone, because people are more than a single hobby or political take.
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>>32613129
People like you that feel the need to call every last deviation from the norm that's actually still pretty normal mental illness should rot in Hell for ruining society.
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>>32613108
Have you never been to a doctor before? How old are you?
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>>32613125
You dummy.
You start drinking just a bit with friends and slowly ramp up the drinking and down the social. You dont just start in the deep end
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>>32613063
I understand that. But maintaining arousal after he cums prolong the mans interest in continued sex (or so I imagine), and increase the woman's chance of a satisfying sexual encounter.
And most women appreciate the ability to go for multiple rounds, I believe.
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>>32613102
>What do I do as a man when an older wicked woman wants to make me commit suicide?
Do what she tells you.
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>>32611240
Women, could you ever find a shorter man attractive? If you’re being completely genuine and honest.

I’m a guy and feel absolutely crushed about my height, I’m 5 foot 8 and feel like I’ll never be physically attractive to a woman because of it. People around me tell me I’m handsome and well built but I still feel self loathing knowing this is always a point of compromise. I considered getting height surgery and I’ve ordered growth hormones (which unfortunately got seized in customs). Am I right in feeling this way? I mean everyone always talks about how you should be tall, dark and handsome or how height is half of beauty.
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>>32613105
>>32613129
My diagnosis? Loving too unconditionally. I prescribe adding conditions to your love to protect yourself from lovers who abuse unconditional love. You can see the receptionist on your way out to discuss a payment plan for this treatment.
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>>32613053
>What have you liked in the past?
Anna Karenina
War and Peace
The Magic Mountain
Anything historical taking place 1800-1920 really. I find fin de siecle kinda fasctinating

>>32613055
>1984
Been there
>>32613079
Kek
>>32613083
>smut
I'm a guy

I settled for A Tale of Two Cities now
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>>32613127
all I hear is that your support net is okay but anybody else having one is not. typical "I've Got Mine" boomer mentality.
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>>32613076
>head spooks
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Girls love it when I tell them I do nuclear physics. Is there no cringe worthy way I can show off before I start hitting on them?
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>>32613125
I've been there bro, I spent a lot of my college days (before dropping out) just hiding in my room and drinking, to the point where someone called student welfare on me at one point
But I was able to push out of my shell and have some successes. I even got voted class rep two years running and officer of social events somewhere lol running parties and stuff
Just start with small things that feel within your reach. Maybe try going to a smaller club/society, or to the bar for a drink even if you don't end up talking to anyone. Also see if your college has any support for mental health (mine was a bit shit but maybe you'll have a better experience - I did have a really sweet lecturer though who would chat to me and she even took me to the doctor's once when I was feeling down)
Also the job on campus might really help desu cause you're kinda forced into coming out of your shell a bit. See if they have temp stuff or volunteering. I was doing campus tours at one point and taking prospective students to lunch and it basically brute forced me into being more normie lol
Gl bro I know ygm8
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>>32613133
Anon, you're telling me that if your partner repeatedly tries to murder you, you will still love them just as much? It won't make the slightest difference? That is what unconditional love means. And that is neither normal nor healthy. Don't pretend it is.
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>>32613137
yeah the last time i drank in a social setting, which was 5 years ago, i got really drunk, said some shit that weirded people out (friend had 2 girls kind of all over him while i was playing his xbox alone, i turn around say "this is why i don't get laid", and i get weird looks), and then later on threw up in the hallway outside his apartment. i'm a deeply dysfunctional person that frankly shouldn't be trusted to interact with people lmao
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>>32613142
>>smut
>I'm a guy
I knew that. That's precisely why you should read smut. broaden your genres
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>>32612998
Useless things/beings don't make me happy.
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>>32613142
>I settled for A Tale of Two Cities now
Fun book but take a drink for every astounding coincidental connection between two people.
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>>32613139
That is utterly embarrassing. Im a grown ass man.
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Women
Recommend smut you like. I need authors, titles... Ideally a link. Thanks
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>>32613142
>Been there
Read it again.
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>>32613140
>Women, could you ever find a shorter man attractive? If you’re being completely genuine and honest.
I am madly in love and lust with my current bf. He is 5 inches shorter than me.

>inb4 YWNBAW
Born XX with a pussy, thank you.
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>>32613155
Pam and Jeremy.
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>>32613147
>to the point where someone called student welfare on me at one point
lmao i've been there, except it was my mom making the calls after me going no contact, and it happened several times throughout the semester, with my roommate in the room. this was during my first stab at college 6 years ago, i'm a bit more functional now
>I did have a really sweet lecturer though who would chat to me and she even took me to the doctor's once when I was feeling down
i tried this last semester and she just said i should check out the services, and then sent me a follow-up email asking how i was doing (i lied to her and said i got in touch with them and that i was doing better)
>Also the job on campus might really help desu cause you're kinda forced into coming out of your shell a bit.
yea that was my logic
>Gl bro I know ygm8
thanks bro
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>>32613140
No man is perfect, all you can do is improve yourself in other areas so the right woman will look past your imperfections. Fixating on your imperfections is the road to stagnation, ruining you entirely.

>>32613157
>I am madly in love and lust with my current bf. He is 5 inches shorter than me.
I want to believe...
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>>32613132
Nta but a date is usually longer than half an hour, and a lot of attraction is subconscious and can't be forced. If you met up with a random girl from here you'd never seen IRL and then didn't find her that attractive or vibe well personality-wise does that make you shallow? I don't think so really lol. It is daft to keep going on dates with someone you don't really feel attraction to when you could be dating someone that you are
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>>32613153
>That is utterly embarrassing. Im a grown ass man.
At least if you kill yourself we won't have to listen to you any more. How is she trying to get you to do it, and how bad we help her succeed?
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>>32613137
>start drinking just a bit with friends
Do you know what website you're on...
>>32613140
NAG but 5'8" is average bro, you are totally fine
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>>32613158
So sexual abuse of a 10yo boy by a 25 year old woman is what this is about. I wonder what would happen if the genders were reversed. Holy shit
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>>32613157
Are you huge or is he megamanlet?
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>>32613157
But was it a point of compromise? I don’t doubt that someone could overlook me being short but I also feel like they would always find me much more attractive had I been born taller.
>>32613161
I try but it just feels so pointless when I know I’ll never be my ideal version of myself. I don’t even feel like I need to super tall or anything, just average for my country (5 foot 11 about)
>>32613167
Not for my country. People always saw me as the short guy of any given social situation and a girl I knew even called me a midget.
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>>32613149
>playing his xbox alone, i turn around say "this is why i don't get laid"
That is funny bro, I would've lol'd
We've all had too much to drink at one point, water under the bridge
I threw up in an Uber full of party girls once in high school lol (I got to the predrinks later after work and was speedrunning), none of them begrudged me for it after (I hope lol)
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>>32613161
>I want to believe...
There isn't really much to believe, anon. Other things being equal, women prefer a tall man, yeah, but in real life other things are almost never equal. It's on my list of desirable qualities; but there are twenty or thirty other things that are higher up the list. And I'm not unusual.
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>>32613173
Nobody will ever be their own ideal self. Everybody else gets over it. Don't sabotage the rest of your life because you couldn't live up to an impossibility.
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>>32613163
Most casual first dates are just a meetup for coffee or something, which rarely takes more than an hour or so.
And no, I wouldn't write someone off that quickly unless they engage in a total dealbreaker like having multiple children.

>when you could be dating someone that you are attracted to
Again, you're (or she) is here. There is a reason for that. There is a reason they're not already in a relationship with "Mr Right". You're not a perfect princess who deserves a prince. The women here are the female equivalent of the "chudcel" expecting a virginal supermodel to worship the ground he walks on.
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>>32613172
>Are you huge or is he megamanlet?
I'm 5'11", he's 5'6". I'm not sure which of your options that is!
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>>32613160
>lied to her and said i got in touch with them and that i was doing better
Ik it's tempting, I've done that too lol, but next time try to be more honest and advocate for yourself
>>32613173
What country is 5'8" short??
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>>32613167
>you know what website you're on...
I sometimes forget that to people here im normie while to normies im a bit odd. If normies are day and chan ppl are night I am twilight
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>>32613179
Youre just a bit taller than avg hes just a bit smaller
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>>32613165
Through becoming a nun and praying endlessly day and night
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>>32613180
>What country is 5'8" short??
NTA but it's below average in the majority of European countries - in particular in younger generations. In Germanic and Slavic countries you'd definitely be short at 5'8" and you'd be short-ish in Med countries.
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>>32613179
Lucky guy...
>>32613178
There's no point forcing yourself to go on another date with someone if you realise you're not compatible though. Hell I went out with a model once who was gorgeous and wasn't interested in another date because it just would not have worked out at all. It's not a reflection on the other person, or means that you're conceited lol. Imo it is better to be single than force yourself to be with someone you don't mesh well with, or forced dates to people-please
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Onions on LDRs?
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>>32613186
She's more than just a bit taller than average, my friend.
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>>32613180
Us male avg 5'10" if you dont count illegals
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>>32613198
Usually it's shit.
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>>32613173
>But was it a point of compromise?
There is no such thing as a perfect partner. Literally no one in the entire world ends up with someone perfect. So being with someone who is very nearly perfect is not a "compromise" in any useful sense, it's just what everyone does (if they're lucky).

If I dated literally anyone else I would like him less than I like my bf, even if he were taller. Do you consider that a compromise?
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>>32613044
Seveneves by Neal Stephenson. Just the first thing off the top of my head. It's sci-fi and kind of depressing, but I thought it was good.

I'm reading Norah Vincen Self Made Man right now. It's kind of related to atoga interests. Though the experiences recounted in it are twenty years old by now.
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>>32613199
1.5 standard diviation
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In one of my classes this semester I have a guy on one side who was homeschooled all the up until college so he already knows way beyond the course material but it doesn't count so he has to take these classes for the credits so he's super smart compared to most but sometimes misses the cue for how to operate in a larger social setting and this makes him self-conscious but I don't care about that and I'm okay with him just talking to me as long as the professor isn't talking.
and on the other side there's a guy with a severe stutter and he's clearly completely terrified of speaking because of it but he's also clearly very intelligent and I completely do not care about the stutter and I'm okay with him just talking to me.
I have no problem just telling people that they're doing something that bothers me or excuse myself from a conversation if I want to and I'll never mean anything mean by it so don't be afraid of bringing something up.
I'm chill with all of you on just the shared experience of being a human being.
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>>32613180
>What country is 5'8" short??
NTA but in the Netherlands average male height is 6'0".
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>>32613158
>>32613168
I can't find whatever this is. "Pam and Jeremy" wasn't enough to connect me with the material.
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>>32613134
Not by myself. I've driven to the dentist once as an adult, and when they gave me paper work and asked me who my general dentist was, I said "I have no idea"
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>>32613206
Are you looking at height for women or height for humans?
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>>32613203
Yeh there are obvious downsides but are they manageble
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>>32613198
The Advantages of LDRs. High Sensitivity to Light: Simplicity and Compact Design: Cost-Effectiveness: High Light-Dark Resistance Ratio: Ease of Integration: ...
The Limitations of LDRs. Limited Spectral Response: Temperature Stability Issues: Slow Response Time: Environmental Susceptibility
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>>32613211
What is average female height in Netherlands?
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>>32613219
Damn, I never knew about the environmental susceptibility of long-distance rail...
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>>32613225
Nono, I'm talking about long dicked rodents
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>>32613208
What is your question for the opposite gender?
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>>32613226
Rodents of Unusual Size?
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>>32613198
>Onions on LDRs?
Did you mean "opinions"?

Well, there's no such thing as a LDR - not in the sense that zoomers use the term. Sure, if you meet normally, have a close-up relationship, then find you need to live apart for a predetermined period of time, before getting back together again, and during the distant phase you only see each other once or twice a month. But in the sense that young people mean, of getting involved with someone you've never ever met face to face - that's not a relationship, it's just cosplaying at one.
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>>32613228
what is men being okay with talking to me?
I don't care if it comes across as a message instead of a question because if it's just questions it's always just
"is penis size?" and really boring
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>>32613230
I still don't get why so many people quote Princess Bride, it's a great film but I don't get the obsession with the ROUS.



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