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>>60141837What if stocks were blue if they went down?
I'm scared :(
Eazy money bitches, let's get some
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how do i go back in time and pull all my shit out a month ago?
>>60141837Trumptards deserve this. They're coping right now by pretending like they give a fuck about manufacturing, but they'll be pissing and shitting themselves as soon as the prices go up.
>>60141837don't forget to link in the other thread
Whenever I look at /smg/ I lose, whenever I don't visit /smg/ I gain.
>Um, so, Trump, hah>Can w-we stop this now? DARK MAGA HAHAHHAHAHA
Black Monday or cat bounce?
I have $15,000 to invest. Is it a bad idea to begin DCA VOO after seeing how this plays out in the next week or so?
>>60141913I don't see how there could be a bounce.
>>60141887the funniest part is that factories will close now that they can’t get the resources they need from China
>>60141913There's a lot of people thinking it'll be a black monday, so my expectation is a slightly green crabby day. Indexes closing +0.5%-1% green.Depends entirely on if there's any news between now and then, of course. If some big country comes out with retaliatory tariffs on it, then it'll be a black monday. Especially if it's the EU.
>>60141913my purely vibes-based prediction is not-quite-black monday, tuesday cat bounce, wednesday crash, thursday crash, friday flat
>>60141918just buy gold stocks or something in healthcare. They wont fluctuate and will rise with the market on the bounce-back.
>>60141920Dead bounce will probably happen Tuesday if the markets drop 10% or so Monday, then expect a breaker trip crash Wednesday. I hope you are all cash.
>>60141945I don't see any reason why Traders will have a different level of confidence wednesday than they would have on Monday. Monday is going to look like thursday or friday and Tuesday will be crash
>>60141959Wednesday is when the tariffs are supposed to go into effect. If Trump hasn't blinked by then, that's when people will lose their minds.
How far OTM should I get my puts?
>>60141592>His people are convinced backing down now would just render the sacrifices already made worthlessIf this shit comes in to effect unchanged, they're going to feel the effects very fast. That will cause a stir. Donald might be a true believer in this but I assure you the Republican party as a whole are not.
>>60141884>believed that trump would be good for the economy ngmi
>>60141850the bars turn blue when they go down on my chart. the other anons feel my charts are ugly and a tacky assault on the eyes.
>>60141837If enough people buy enough shorts could it help things bounce back?
>>60141918Remember that this only the first of a whole series of policy changes. And he will fuck those up too. Sit on your money and do what Buffett does, when he does it.
>>60141542Now that you mention it, it's quite weird how we we so close to circuits breaker, but conveniently didn't touch it even though you just can FEEL the force is here to do so.I indeed wouldn't be surprised if algos are now playing to avoid them like in 2020, which likely fucked them over a bit. Meaning the dump is going step by step, with steps of -6% at max, maybe -5 or -4% just to be safe. Over multiple steps, obviously.Is there anything the based NOOTICERS managed to notice over the multiple data/correlations they monitor, that would support that theory?
Jim Cramer announced tomorrow will be a Black Monday. That means we are going full green to the moon!
>>60141918>after seeing how this plays out in the next week or so?Trump is on and off again with the tariffs and threatening to strike Iran. Watch the news and see if things are calming down and getting crazier (more volatile). If the markets are going down and you DCA your investments are losing. If the markets are going up and you DC your investments are gaining in value. If you invest in a declining market you have to understand you will be red until it starts to rebound, which could be a long time if Trump goes through with an attack and if it does not go well. Just some things to consider before you jump in. You can always go slower and see how things play out the next few weeks.
>>60141930This.Always do the opposite what financial media says.
>>60141986>Jim Cramer announced tomorrow will be a Black Monday.
>>60141981While I hear you, I do have to question what benefit the algos get out of not triggering the breakers.
>>60141913Nah. It won't be as bad as people are expecting, but by the end of the week, it depends on what other countries say.
>>60141987>If the markets are going down and you DCA your investments are losing. If the markets are going up and you DCA your investments are gaining in value.No fucking way!
>>60141913retail is still "buying the dip" so i'd say black mondaywhen retail capitulates we'll get a dead cat bounce to catch the final dip slurpers before we dip into oblivion and banks buy cheapies
>>60141972I just didn't nthink it would be a shitshow. last time was fine, he wasn't trying to play economy wizard.
>>60141884I made the same mistake. Even told myself to do it because the market was up despite Trump & Friends saying insane bullshit about how they wanted to reduce aggregate demand to bring inflation under control. I psyched myself out though assuming I couldn't be smarter than the market.
>>60141965Do you still Think trump cares what the rest of the party thinks? They've spent the last 4 years purging the party of anyone not loyal to him.
>>60141986I'm thinking a vicious bear market rally.But then I am looking at VIX and I'm thinking forced institutional selling in every asset class.
>>60142017he says insane shit literally every day. how was i supposed to know this time he was serious. worried to see futures.
>>60142024The most the republicans could manage was Rand Paul joining the Democrats to try and end the Canada tariffs. Ted Cruz came out publicly against the tariffs but voted with the Trump loyalists.
I’m a stupid black monkey that fails at playing the stock market every time
>>60141981If you have been around long enough and pay attention long enough you would have noticed long ago congress would deregulate and cause a ramp on the markets (bond, stock, real estate) then would be a crash they could not control. So, they implement more controls and as computers and high speed trading became more common and capable they gained more control over the markets. There were flash crashes due to bad programming, or one system triggering another, or to demonstrate to congress the markets were controlled and they better pass or stop a bill. More laws have been passed to allow some of the largest/most important business to keep a separate set of books for "National Security" reasons. You never know really what the Fed is doing, where the money is going, DOGE has made public the trillions of dollars of fraud. Rest assured the current financial/economic actions are planned and bond and stonk markets are controlled to implement the plan. They don't care about you, they care about fighting Iran, Russia, China and ruling the world. Don't try to fight it, watch it and make money off it.
>these tariffsSo... uh.. what's the plan?
>>60142050CRASHING THIS ECONOMYWITH NO SURVIVORS!
>>60142050Assume the autofellatio position during the nosedive, please.
>>60142050>So... uh.. what's the plan?"Trump" is trying to reconfigure global money flows because the US is bankrupt and corrupt, they (US, England, France and otheres) want to stay in power to stay rich. They are fighting against Russia, China, India, Iran and others who want a separate system - BRICS. US is determined to destroy Iran, Russia and China. This is all part of the re-positioning of alliances, finances, economics, trade, political powers. Just because its a plan does not mean it will work well, or work at all, or it may be great for the US/Europe. Part of Trump's style is redirection, confusion, intimidation and the high speed trading platforms that read the news and make trades based on key words are having seizures trying to figure out what is going on. Expect more volatility if Trump keeps is up, if there are counter-tarriffs, large military attacks stuff like that. I am hoping for a massive crash, then I will buy in big time, before the announcement of massive QE again.
Are bonds good to hold during rate cuts?
>>60141837>he bought>domp eet>domp eet ahrgain
>>60142042>DOGE has made public the trillions of dollars of fraud.retard
>>60142078
>>60142102>Are bonds good to hold during rate cuts?It depends - bond prices and interest rates are inversely related, but if no one wants the bonds and they have to be sold at a discount just to get them sold then the actual interest rate rises even though they lowered them. But, the Fed is owned by private banks, primary dealers, the Fed gives them money, they turn around buy the bonds at whatever price the Fed says, then they give the bonds to the Fed as collateral for money and go do whatever they want. It works until no one wants to play and things get wonky and the Fed has to create new "facilities" to rig the markets.
>>60142112>retardexplain what you do not understand DOGE has found and made public? Any idiot already knew what was going on, but the zombies masses need to see it on the news to learn about it.
>>60142050I'm risking some experimental money on a microcap. CEO looks like he has experience. Small number of employees. And before the tariffs, he said they have some sort of commission to last for the year, so the company isn't reliant on federal handout like other defensive companies. So that means the company is aware that there will be slow growth and it's not just some salesman pitch to drum up shares.I ain't telling you the stock thoCause it's a risky bet
>>60142130Spending approved by congress which musk disagrees with is not Fraud. There's a reason nobody has been charged with anything.
>>60141913Small bounce followed by crab that keeps going slightly lower but doesn't triggers a panic
>>60142153Wishful thinking, the panic is really starting to set in now, even retail is getting the message. They can't keep burning money in an attempt to buy the dip forever.
I voted for this
>>60142168Poorfag bros I’m waiting to buy in bigly after the Blurmpfoid crashes us even further
>>60142134>Spending approved by congressYou are actually retarded, no joke. General appropriations are not approvals to spend specific amounts at each Board, Department, Office, Agency. The operatives in those groups then funnel the funds to corrupt operations, some of which is funneled back to campaign contributions for the elected who voted to approve. You know nothing about government budgets and expenditures
>>60142180Please point me to the actual crimes and people being charged with committing them please. What you're describing is corruption, not fraud, only of those is a crime.
>>60141986>>60141994so, Monday will be a bull trap followed by Black Tuesday 2: tariff boogaloo
If you complain even once about the markets going down, you are shareblue. Stay strong, Pedes!
>>60142162This is a news driven crash, so all Trump has to do is shut the fuck up and the oversold market will recover a little before resuming its downward bias but not a 3rd crash in a row. Considering parts of the Republican party are fracturing already, that's most likely his course of action.The only thing that would trigger a complete collapse is Trump signing even more tariffs on China and escalating into whats basically the starting stage of WW3 at that point. Which now that I think about it, isn't out of the question because he's just as retarded as the people who voted for him. But still, at that point you should invest in guns and protection rather than money
>>60142201Tariffs don't magically go away by ignoring them. The global economy is fucked. Nobody wins in a trade war
>>60142201No it's policy driven, Trump is hellbent on tearing down system of global trade that has been driving the markets for the better part of a century, and turning his country into Argentina. The only things that could stop the crash now would be for him to come out and announce it was all a joke.
>>60141837GET FUCKED TECH SECTORMOST SEMICONDUCTORS ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM TARRIFSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!>Trump’s Tariffs Are Threatening the US Semiconductor Revival>Only a small number of American manufacturers will be able to continue sourcing chips without needing to factor in higher import costs. The vast majority of semiconductors that come into the US currently are already packaged into products that are not exempt, such as the graphics processing units (GPUs) and servers for training artificial intelligence models. And manufacturing equipment that domestic companies use to produce chips in the US wasn’t spared, either.>Given that most semiconductors arrive at US borders packaged into servers, smartphones, and other products, the tariffs amount to “something in the ballpark of a 40 percent blended tariff on that stuff,” Rasgon says, referring to the overall import duty rate applied.https://www.wired.com/story/trump-tariffs-impact-semiconductors-chips/
>>60142207That's true which is why I'm not a retard retail saying to buy le dipperino, the market will go down and will continue going downwards, with small relief rallies while it adjust to the new normal, which is a really shitty new normal and even MAGA may not cope with le zoom out meme at some point.Basically, iron condors are your best friend on Monday.
It's actually a good thing that the tariffs are so bad, it means that they're guaranteed to be overturned one way or another. Even the people that wrote project 2025 hate it. It would have been far worse if the numbers were high but somewhat reasonable.
>>60142235>Even the people that wrote project 2025 hate itThen who's idea were they in the first place?
>>60142235No it just mean he can lower them a bit and claim he's saving the markets. Classic High balling strategy.
What stocks do I buy
>>60142254Leveraged Bear ETFs
>>60142254VIX
>>60142258>Buy high sell low
>>60142257>>60142258Oracle it is
>>60142260You clearly haven't learned from history that tariffs cause the global economy to crash and put every country into a global recession. Learn your history or learn the hard way and lose everything.
>>60142260>he thinks a 45 VIX is "high"https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-futures-steady-after-market-bounce-back/card/what-is-the-highest-level-the-vix-ever-reached--sc0LUfA6VGrSY913bhtj
>>60142241A lot of people with a lot of money are wondering the same thing.
>>60142263Cost of production for Oracle backend hardware is about to skyrocket thanks to tariffs
>>60141837>>Suicide Hotline>Help is available>"Help"
>>60142270The other ones Im considering are Lockheed (Lockheed always wins all the time), Nike (Vietnam is negotiating tarrifs), Amazon (possibility of buying Tiktok), Google (idfklol), and VOO (its VOO)
>>60142277>Vietnam is negotiating tarrifsIf the goal is to force those jobs back to the US, why would the trump admin lower the tariffs?
Can breakers trip in pre-market? What are the odds of us seeing a breaker trip at 5am this week?
>>60142282>If the goal is to force those jobs back to the US, why would the trump admin lower the tariffs?They had a "good phonecall". He took away Israels tariffs too and is considering taking or renegotiating Indias.
>>60142291He had a "good phonecall" with Zelensky prior to his visit. Do I really have to explain why Israel would get special treatment?
>>60142279>GooglePoor choice imo. Advertising is gonna get hit hard with economic downturn. Europe is considering taxing advertising too. Also AI is a bubble bursting. Even if AI has a future the it's gonna die a death of a thousand cuts from every direction. Google has nothing up it's sleeve besides being huge. It's gonna shrink and become another boomer company to large to maneuver out of it's own way.
when do the market futures open?
>>60142266People don't learn their history and this is a failure on their part of epic proportions. We're still in the denial phase of grief. It's gonna hit them hard when they realize nothing they say or do will change the outcome of tariffs, as history has taught us before when people speculated the market was going to go up higher and it crashed -90%. We know where this is heading. We learned from history. We know what to do. It's still gonna hurt, but at least we know the history and the playbook of tariffs and how to handle it accordingly. They'll lose all their money, but at least I know I'll be stacking up when it falls flat -90% and making it like our great grandfathers did. This is not a game. This is no joke. This is real life. Things are about to get seriously hard for everyone and they're still in denial. For now, but not for long. Most we can do is what we have to do while they're in denial. Logic over emotion.
>>60142293Uh, because theyre our closest ally? Chud?>>60142296I heard Google was undervalued which was why I was considering it. What do you guys recommend
>>60142279Vietnam is calling for 0 tariffs on both ends. It's up to Trump to actually reverse it, but it's hard saying if he actually will save that doesn't fit his agenda. Lockheed isn't a bad investment. If we go to war, Lockheed will most definitely come up ahead in production, but again, steel tariffs. We have no materials for production. Amazon will go under for a variety of tariff related bs. Google is a bad buy. VOO is a possibility.
>>60142266I want to believe it will go higher. But my instinct is to not get greedy and trying to jump on the bandwagon after it's already left.
>>60142291>Trump took away Israels tariffsHe did no such thing yet you baffoon. There will be talks on Monday. That is the only announcement on Israel tarrifs besides Trump wanting to further hit Israel's pharmecutical industry with more tarrifs.https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/israel-s-netanyahu-set-for-talks-with-trump-in-washington-dc/ar-AA1CmUlg
>>60142235Stephen Miller wrote Project 2025 and he has spent the past 3 days defending tariffs. What are you talking about?
>>60142312I think Lockheed, if they needed it, could get pretty much whatever they wanted. They make UFOs for money. Also even if Amazon gets hit, wont they stay around due to delivery infrastructure? And if the economy is bad, wont VOO be bad?
>>60142291>He took away Israels tariffs too and is considering taking or renegotiating Indias.He hasn't taken away Israel's tariffs -- at least, not yet. Israel is pushing for it, but there's no confirmation on Trump's side.https://www.reuters.com/world/netanyahu-expected-talk-tariffs-with-trump-washington-monday-officials-say-2025-04-05/
>>60142291Edit** VOO looks like it's about to hit a death cross
>>60142221Uhhh...SOXLsisters, why do these bags feel so incredibly heavy???
>>60142320Amazon- not of tariffs cause imports to rocket. Then majority of people saving with Amazon will go back to traditional retail stores. But if everyone is too broke to purchase anything when the great depression hits, it'll go under.
>>60142310>What do you guys recommendPrayer.Seriously stay away from the tech sector. The shit show is just getting started. The whole market is sketchy. The majority of the world including Euope have yet to respond to the tarrifs. It's a wait and see game right now. Don't believe the lies on social media. Get concrete sources information from actual sources before making decisons.
Nononono
>>60142323I mean, its Israel though.>>60142324Whats a death cross?Can a fund that big REALLY go under?.t retard who uses boomer strategies
>>60142332>tech sectorWasn't that shit overbought due to AI memes anyway?
>>60142329Yup time to double down on shorts, but do I wait for a bounce???
>>60142336Yes
>>60142335Learn your history and how tariffs started the great depression and destroyed the global economy. Dow jones industrial went under -90% in a matter of two weeks.Death cross: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deathcross.asp
>>60142266VIX tracks uncertainty no? How could the situation possible get more uncertain than now. The situation will only get more clear, for better or worse, where we are heading.
>>60142319I just watched some interview with a guy from the heritage foundation who said they wrote 30% of it. He was shitting on it and wondering who did it.
>>60142345>How could the situation possible get more uncertain than nowThe second order effects of millions of people with guns losing their jobs.
>>60142342>Despite the dramatic name, the death cross has been followed by above-average short-term returns many times since 1992So this could be a good time to buy VOO? It feels hard to believe a company that props up most peoples retirement funds could collapse
>>60142346Yeah I saw that, basically suggested hanging whoever put together the list and give it to Trump, who of course can never be a fault.
>>60142353that happened in 2008 and 2020, but 08 we had an election to throw the bum out, and 2020 everyone was too scared of the covid to form mobs. This one will be interesting.
>>601422976 PM ET tomorrow
>>60142345VIX goes up when everyone starts getting puts for downside protection, like right now
>>60142384Interesting, I would have assumed if most people thought the market is going down uncertainty would reduce. I need to better understand what exactly VIX tracks.
>>60141920>>60141913That’s why there will be a bounce.
>>60142355It could be if the tariffs go byebye. They're not wrong under normal circumstances with that statement, but this is under previous circumstances that caused the great depression. History > speculation. It would be one hell of a bet to do so, but with how things are going, you're better off waiting for it to drop to the floor.
>>60142363>At 4:45 pm, commanded by MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by five M1917 light tanks commanded by Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered the cavalry to charge them.[35]>After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and tear gas (adamsite, an arsenical vomiting agent) entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. No shots were fired. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp, and Hoover ordered the assault stopped. MacArthur chose to ignore the president and ordered a new attack, claiming that the Bonus March was an attempt to overthrow the US government. 55 veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[1]To be fair I think Trump would just let Washington burn if protests got unfathomably big.
>>60142355Elon hopes for a tariff free trade zone between the US and EU. That's entirely up to Trump to do so. China still has reciprocal tariffs going into effect on the 10th, raising tariffs by +34%
VIX is cool and all, but anyone else also buying TZA?
>>60142355I’d aim higher, but if you like to water down your mayo go for it. Always buying VOO is a cheat code to being a millionaire… in your mid 60s.Personally I’d look at UPRO.
>a $10 SOXL august call only costs $215buying a small bag with my put profits
>>60141990I want the gay meter to hit 0 desu
>>60142241Peter Navarro and Stephen Miran
>>60142413That's literally that last things Trump and the other people around him want though. They outright hate Europe and want to force those jobs back to the US
>>60142414I am now. Trying to decide what the best way to short is.
>>60142429Precisely. We live in a screwed up world right now
>>60142413If Elon hopes in one hand and shits in the other guess which hand will fill up first?
>>60142429What I question is what their true motives are. They could have easily brought those jobs back into the US by providing incentives for the corporations to bring, and keep, production into the US. There's an alternate motive here. They faked those numbers on the tariff board. Why?
Assuming Trump isnt doing what hes doing for the reason he says, what is the reason hes doing it?
>>60142449It's stupidity. His advisors gave him a number of tariff routes, and he chose the worst one. There is no motive but Trump, an incompetent, being surrounded by yes-men.
>>60142449honestly I think he's gone senile the numbers the h1b intern got from chatgpt were chosen because they best reinforced trumps delusions about how everything is unfair
>>60142451Crash the market so his buddies can buy up everything.
>>60142451You follow the Nikola founders Trevor Milton pardon. Look at that and get back to me. It’s not even corruption as 1.8 mil is nothing. Just looks like an old man being taken advantage of. Seriously, dig into that and answer me why. I think that will answer your question.
>>60142463What would that do besides letting the corporations make money sitting in their corporation buildings or whateverAnd what are they buying?
>>60142459>>60142461There's a video I saw just yesterday on YouTube of a young Trump in his 30's spouting the same rhetoric he is right now. It was insanely uncanny. He had talked about a similar motive/agenda. I wish I could find the video, but that should be enough breadcrumbs to find it if you look for it. It gave me chills
>>60142474ADD: it did make me laugh because he legitimately had the same damn combover hairstyle, but his face was so much younger. But that didn't take away from the fact that he has a regime here that goes back to when he was 30 years old. Seriously it will give you goosebumps
>>60142472>And what are they buying?Power, control, wealth, real estate, companies, ect. Everything not nailed down. You will own nothing and you will be happy.
>>60142482>trump is looping the 80s again in his brainthat just provides more evidence for senility
>>60142486Does this mean number go up
>>60142434Good luck nigga
It's his turn
>>60141913words in anon, boomer grandparents sold bonds and have bought voo. I REPEAT BOOMER GRANDPARENTS HAVE BOUGH VOOits going lower
>>60142451I think we are on the verge of the Chinese century, and we have to do something drastic to maintain global dominance.
>>60142414>>60142494I want to buy but by instinct I need to wait for it to dip in the other direction a bit first.
>>60142515Historically speaking, western civilization all the way back to Mongolian era shows China has always been ahead of the rest of the world.
I've only been putting 100 euros a month in the SP500, but with this mess I might have to consider waiting until the end of the week and consider catching the falling knife with my savings
>>60142517I don’t blame you. Even though I’m 90% sure we’re going to see red on Monday I’m still nervous. I hope it doesn’t crash too bad though, for my grandfathers sake lol
>>60142523When it wasn't having its seasonal civil war or giant flood that killed millions of people yes, but Xi Jinping won't live forever
>>60142535They have a long and brutal history. That is without a doubt. But they had guns 400 years before the rest of the world, all while they were all still swinging swords.
>>60142535Xi ping is arguably the most calmest of Chinese leaders
>>60142538Not on a very large scale, and guns back then were not so good.
>>60141999Checked, and is there is an overweight punishment for stopping trading, or rather an overweight reward for continuing to be able to trade, I can see how the models could learn to avoid breakers as that would effectively halt their ultimate function which is to trade during open hours
https://youtu.be/2WiaQjwMTiw?t=150>Go sell low, and go buy high>Just to watch the markets crash and die>These economists they see no wrong>In pumping, pumping>Pumping, pumping>Pumping, pumping all day long>Pumping, pumping all day long>Pumping, pumping all day long>Pumping, pumping all day long>Yeah!>They go on pumping till at last>Pumping all year makes it fat>The worship patterns on their chart>Expecting growth with no jumpstart>Pumping, pumping all day long>Pumping, pumping all day long>Pumping, pumping all day long>Boomercrypto>Boomercrypto>Boomercrypto>Boomercrypto>For years and years they pump away>The bubble grows bigger every day>And with one great tremendous pop>The cucks they watch the market drop>And now that pensions have gone away>These cucks are losing their 401k>Pumping, pumping all day long>Pumping, pumping all day long>Pumping, pumping>Pumping, pumping>Pumping, pumping all day long
>>60142540They were good enough, and destroyed armies who only had swords while they had guns and cannons.
>>60141981It's retail investors buying the dip. They can't wrap their heads around a protracted market decline.
>>60142538>>60142540>>60142550Go back to Guangzhou, Chang
>>60142540I'm still wondering how Nikkei is going to open tomorrow. It will give insight into the further economic destruction of the tariff war. China's retaliatory tariffs go in to effect on the 10th at +34%
>>60142553I'm American and have a shit leader hell bent on destroying the world economy. all we can do is react appropriately and in accordance to the hand we've been dealt.
>>60142554>I'm still wondering how Nikkei is going to open tomorrowwill shit the bed as alwaysnikkei only goes down
>>60142553I'm speaking on behalf of what I learned from taking western civilization, Cornell University, circa 2014
>>60142565Zoom out. Nikkei was handling fine before Trump signed that tariff executive order. Not to mention Dow jones industrial and the entire market is collapsing real time.
>>60142572>Nikkei was handling fine before Trump signed that tariff executive orderit started shitting the bed when BOJ hinted at interest rate increases way before muh tariffstariffs are just accelerating the collapse
Didn't the guys at zerohedge used to be non-retarded?
>>60142582The US isn't immune to federal rate increases. The same will happen in an attempt to stabilize the economy, but it also has that potential to further jack up the economy because it doesn't make tariffs and price increases go away. New iPhones alone are going up to $3500 per phone. I can't imagine tariffs on top of rate increases stimulating the economy this time around. The tariffs need to go, or else we're all fucked.
>>60142523China has historically been bad at fighting against anyone that wasn't Chinese. They were constantly being taken over by barbarian tribes to the north. The British conquered them by just teaching them how to smoke opium. Sure they have historically been wealthier than the west more often than not, but they kind of suck at international conflicts.
>>60142601That was back when they were having famines literally every other week. Now they've had decades of proper nutrition and the some of the toughest education in Asia.
>>60142585>Didn't the guys at zerohedge used to be non-retarded?The media literacy meme is real with you people.>The New Republic and New York magazine have identified Daniel Ivandjiiski as the founder of Zero Hedge.[1][7] The New York article made assertions regarding Ivandjiiski's background, particularly his Bulgarian citizenship, his FINRA charge and lifetime ban from securities trading, and his father, Krassimir Ivandjiiski's, own controversial news and political website, Strogo Sekretno (Bulgarian: Cтpoгo ceкpeтнo; English "Top Secret"),[a] and Krassimir's position in the pre-1990 Bulgarian-Soviet administration".[b][7] >On 29 April 2016, an ex-employee of Zero Hedge, Colin Lokey, who had joined a year earlier in 2015 from Seeking Alpha, gave an interview to Bloomberg, revealing Ivandjiiski, and San Francisco-based credit trader Tim Backshall,[c] as the main force behind Zero Hedge.[9][10] The article confirmed various details about Daniel Ivandjiiski, including that he lives in a mansion in Mahwah, New Jersey, Lokey saying: "These two guys, who live a lifestyle you only dream of, are pretending to speak for you."[11]
>>60142532bot post
>>60142609https://youtu.be/3m3iUHplvQE?feature=shared
>>60142609https://youtu.be/cwidw5Xtv6w?feature=sharedYeah they have some crazy stuff in the works and we definitely need to catch up. I almost accepted a gove
>>60142609They replaced famines with gutter oil, cancer air and cancer water, so it remains to to be seen.
>>60142609Almost accepted a government contract to train candidates for drone warfare, but it's nothing compared to this. We do have some battle bots in the works, but my understanding is it's all still underground and in testing. I didn't pick up any other contracts.
>>60142616Beep bop
>>60142585>open website>immediately see a shop that sells "brain" supplements
>>60142451Climate change. It's the simplest and easiest explanation. The Pentagon has been crying about how it will destroy America for years. The endgame of climate change is a complete breakdown of the global supply chain and the death of globalization and international trade. It's unrealistic and delusional to believe that America can maintain it's hegemonic grip on the world with these conditions, especially after the sanctions against Russia failed to instill regime change and give the US a land-based ally to further surround China. That's why Trump is talking about annexing Greenland (shipping and naval routes from ice melt), along with annexing Mexico, Panama and Canada. America is downgrading from a world superpower to a regional dominator that will rely on imperialism of its neighbors to survive. This will play out further years/decades from now, but Trump is jumping the gun and posturing now to manufacture consent.
Okay I've decided I won't be greedy and will resist anymore shorting until there's been a bounce. If it crashes again Monday I'll sell my existing short on Tuesday in preparation for the bounce. After the bounce looks like it's over load up on shorts again.
10% of the population owns 88% of all stocks.
>>6014269191%
>>60142585>Didn't the guys at zerohedge used to be non-retarded?that site dieded in like 2011. Before that they used post really good articles and were getting well known on wall street.
>>60142653I think the real crash will be on Wednesday when people realize Trump is not backing down on his retarded tariffs
>>60142505I remember being so bored of months of his stupid fucking face.
https://www.ft.com/content/8ba439ec-297c-4372-ba45-37e9d7fd1771Yeah so Monday crash is basically guaranteed now right?
>>60142727Investment banks on Friday too, giving their quarterly predictions. Since the Atlanta fed says GDP already dropped 2% this quarter, it probably won’t be pretty.
April 3-4 was the first time in American history the Dow Jones index shed over 1.5k points in back-to-back days
>>60142392>I need to better understand what exactly VIX tracksit's implied volatility from options on the SP500puts affect it more because dumps are faster than pumps. people are afraid the market will dump violently, they buy puts, hence implied volatility increases -> VIX goes up
>>60142816>they buy puts, hence implied volatility increasesThis is what I don't understand. If people all expect the market to go down, doesn't that reduce IV?
>>60142812oh fuck its going to get so much worse
feels like monday will be even worse desu my dudes
>>60142816The volatility would come from people panic selling right?
>>60142822NVM I'm stupid, it refers to expectations of a movement of the price In any direction.
>mfw solded everything on friday
>>60142838I have a bunch of telsa stock hoping it goes green
>>60142852R.I.P
>>60142834>>60142822implied volatility from options is not the same as actual realized volatility in the SP500. if people are willing to pay a high price for a put, it implies they expect high volatility. the put buyers' don't "know" that the SP500 will dump lets say -10% in a week, they are giving a reasonable probability it will and buy the puts for that scenario. it might not dump -10%, actual realized volatility is different.
>>60142867Yeah I think I get it now. VIX but looking at the history VIX just seems to swing too wildly to be worth investing in once it's already started to spike.
are we still buying the dip, bagholders?
>/pol/turds coping that the markets already have Trump's schizophrenic outbursts baked inOh yeah you know just a 10% market contraction over 2 days, totally normal, nothing to see here, stock markets are fake and gay, third term soon
>>60142852It's not going to get better, BYD and other car companies are humiliating Tesla and not to mention, Musk already alienated the consumer base that would be most likely to buy his electric cars as well.
>>60142903I aint buying shit for the next 2 years
People voted for trump because they wanted the 2019 economy back.If he causes a stagflationary depression and tells everyone that it's his plan and on purpose, he will annihilate the Republican party for decades, the same way that the liquidationists did under Hoover.The original constitution grants tariff policy along with all other tax and spending policy, to congress, not the executive.It's only a relatively late amendment that gave the executive the power to institute tariffs under emergencies.If Trump continues on this course of economic suicide in a clear overreach of the law, the Democrats will be able to flip enough Republicans to overturn that amendment (or alternatively they can threaten to and force Trump to fold).The bill is literally in motion right now and various republicans are already co-signing.
I don't have much capital, I just DCA into indexes, should I just stick with it through this or actually pull out? It seems like this is different from just a downturn. It's probably too late anyway isn't it?
>>60142997>The bill is literally in motion right now and various republicans are already co-signing.What happens when Trump just Vetoes it lol? They republicans have been purge of anyone not loyal to trump, they won't be able to get enough to flip.
>>60142997>he will annihilate the Republican party for decadesImagine if Trump was a democrat plant all along.
God just giveme a billion dollars im done with this shit lol
>>60143032If they get enough republicans on board to make up 60% of congress then the bill can't be vetoed
>>60143083Won't happen until there is literally blood on the streets
Has there been no rumors of Trump backtracking at all? This retards really going to do it isn't he?
>>60143105Buckle Up Buckaroo
Is /smg/ ready for the nuke tomorrow?
>>60143124Will be buying more US equity shorts the moment the ASX opens
>market is going down>switch to puts>now you make money from market going downYou can flip the picture upside down, we got a mega bull market just reversed, I dont see the problem here? The only ones losing are boomers and jews who own a lot of shares. (and me because I was bullish out of inexperience)
you ARE shorting quantum and then buying Costco at the bottom, right anons?
So what happens tomorrow?
>>60143149
>>60141913This is a clown world do we're going up 5%
>>60143155News over the weekend just gets worse and wrose, I can't imagine a bounce.
>>60142648>le climade change doomerismCommunist
Trump's Jews are already turning on himIf he doesn't announce postponing tarrifs on Monday, know for sure that, without a doubt, he intends to crash the stock market with no survivors.
>>60143139The problem is this might undermine the USD's value and by extension the US
>>60143185Man he just announced china made a big mistake on the retaliatory tariffs, how do you think it will look if he backs down now?>>60143193Why is that a problem?
>10% of the population accounts for 50% of consumer spending.>10% of the population own 90% of the stocksThis is like the ultimate richfag KWAB of all time.Pay your taxes.
musk is now publically attacking navarro on twitter lol. NO REFUNDS YOU RETARDED MUSKRAT!
>>60143139problem with shorting is that the retard in chief can flip and claim he was just doing an art of the deal, leading to a faceripper relief rally.
>>60143185Fuck the yids, the people need cheapies, unless things get so bad that we're going to have to get on our knees for bread ofc.
>>60143185Incredible
>>60143215>you're just pretending to be crazy for leverage, right? ...right?watching trump's moneymen get buyer's remorse in the coming weeks will be hilarious
>>60143048I get vibes of Trump hating the rich, so why not?
>>60143224He IS RICH, the people closest to him are RICH. What he hates is the establishment
>>60142449>what their true motives arethey want another Plaza Accord but this time force it on entire world, it wont work US of 2025 is nothing like USA in 1985https://www.nordea.com/en/news/mar-a-lago-accord-explained-a-new-era-for-the-dollar
>>60143224If even half of what was in that Apprentice movie is true then his only motivation is TRUMP.
Follow the money and you would have gotten rich. When the CEO of one of the biggest banks can sell up to $1 billion JPM shares or when Warren Buffet is holding the largest cash pile owned by a single entity in history you know the top is in.Easier to say in hindsight, nonetheless a valuable lesson for the future for those experiencing their first bear market.
>>60143293How did Buffet know it? He was hoarding cash before this mess, months and months ago. Like in 2021 or 2022 or so it was clear when interest rates were hiked and money supply shrank that you should move out of stocks, but then for a year or two (2023 and 2024 or so) later stocks kept pumping anyway, especially tech. How did Buffet know? Or rather, what indicators did he use.
>>60141837>US Companies cant make products except NSA spyware, weapons and goyslop>"NOOO WHY DONT YOU BUY OUR SHITTY CARS NOT SUITABLE FOR YOUR ROADS!?"
>>60143088Personally I'm expecting that to happen before the year is out
>>60143302>How did Buffet know? Or rather, what indicators did he use.I think he used the "Buffett indicator".
>>60143124who puts a countdown timer on an airbursting weapon? Also, 9 seconds means that the nuke will hit the ground (or worse, the bay) BEFORE it explodes which will massively reduce both the scale and spread of effect on target
>>60143224>I get vibes of Trump hating the richi get vibes of extreme cope from this post
>>60143315https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/This? He would have had to hoard cash since like 2019 then.
>>60143302Buffet has said the market is frothy with everything being overvalued, hence him piling on cash and not utilising for acquisitions. Also, instead of buying equites he has been trimming down his exposure in the past few quarters
>>60143302>>60143315>How did Buffet know it?He didn't, he sold AAPL shares at $180 when it went all the way to $250, he thought the market was overvalued when it was not, not that Trump will intentionally crash the global market for no apparent reason.Even after this apocalyptic crash, AAPL share price is still higher than when he sold it.But everybody is going to jerk Buffet off, it's like a modern religious movement or some shit.
>>60142451"America first" means Juche>Juche posits that a country will prosper once it has become self-reliant by achieving political, economic, and military independence.Its literally what the MAGA shills on this very board keep saying they voted for>pull out of military alliances>withdraw from international organisations and cut aid>massively reduce foreign trade
>>60143335Aren't tech stocks actually overvalued? There was AI hype, but did it translate into profits for the companies?
>>60143336So become a massive 56% white north korea, based MIGA retards
>>60142538>But they had guns 400 years before the rest of the worldThey most certainly did not. They had gunpowder and even something you might be able to categorise as an early MLRS but the closest the chinks ever got to guns was a basic bitch fire lance design, with no trigger based firing mechanism of any kind beyond simply holding a lit flame to the powderThe first gun was the matchlock, and the first matchlocks appeared in the west
>>60143344-Nvidia grew its revenue by 114% YoY-Meta grew its revenue by 21% YoY-Microsoft grew its revenue by 12% YoY-Amazon grew its revenue by 10% YoYI don't know how you can look at this level of growth and say that tech was grossly overvalued, the big American tech companies were doing exceptionally well until this happened, there was no reason at all to not be optimistic about the market going forward.
>>60143373Interesting. Then I wonder how Buffet was evaluating what was overpriced or not.
>>60143373Look at COST valuation, not even based on growth, just vibes and the hotdog. A lot of shitstocks have also been going on a run based on vibes, just like how it was before the short 2022 bear market.
>check /biz/smg/>it's full of moutbreathing plebbitors>the whole thread is chock full of some of the worst takes I've ever seen>endless weeping about muh drumpf>flaming retards like >>60143373 trying to bring other posters down with themWell, looks like I'm headed back to /bant/. Stay poor, baggies.
>>60143390META and Google are kinda questionmarks as well. META is just advertising and so is Google. Every time they try to branch out it's a shitshow. I'm surprised they still earn so much off of that. Who the fuck is still falling for online advertising?
where the fuck are we going on monday?puts is the obvious direction, but then again every faglord is buying puts monday morningbig stock has not allowed this kind of mass money making ever before
>>60143398Big stock is too busy shitting their pants and malding over the tariffs to care about exploiting retail right now
>>60143396Most internet users don't even have an ad blocker, let alone know how to identify when they're being advertised to
>>60143195>china made a big mistake on the retaliatory tariffswhy?if trump backs off it will look bad for him and the usawinning play from china would be to not remove retaliatory tariffs even if trump puts his tariffs on menopause
>>60143398I'm hoping my 4/11 puts keep printing, if they do good I'll sell them and cash out
>>60143410Yeah that's my point
>>60142838You sold the bottom?
>>60143139This is true, but I just remembered all those puts in 2020 when people were absolutely convinced it was going to collapse further and bear market for years. But then the money printer came out. >b-butt money printer was expected So why did people short then?
>>60143422because people like you are retards and the environment then was differenthow is imminent stagflation supposed to allow the money printer to come out?
>>60143215>Madman theoryWhy do people miss that Nixon tried this and it didn't work?>>60143302He didn't know and has still lost a lot of money. What Buffet knew was that tech was overvalued and we were already unavoidably looking at a correction in 25/26.
>>60143424Jesus Christ you're stupid. My point is that something happend to stop the drop See >>60143207 for example. But if course you're stupid and thought I meant he'd get the printer out again.
>>60143440obviously something can happen, my point is the odds of something negative happening are higher than odds of something good happeningyou're basically praying at this point if you think it will magically do a 180just take the administration at its face and accept they want to crash the markets
>>60143185>>60143215It's like reverse TDS, ort something.
Monday is gonna be pure rape
>>60143465retail is genetic bagholders
I've just been informed of reports that major international banks are making margin calls but am far too economically illiterate to know what that meansAm I correct in assuming that this is a bad sign?
>>60143465Retail dumped alot friday morning
Futures -7%.
>>60142050wait a min, i gotta ask chatgpt
>>60143515no it's not
>>60143513>~1B Slurps every day for 3 quarters>Now crashingYep, it's going to be rape.
>a 600 points drop was seen as an absurd ridiculus joke
Should I cope and sell, or hold and seethe?
I got a baaaaaad feeling about tomorrow
>>60141837>Help is available>Speak with someone today>988 Suicide and Crisis Lifelinehello, is this the help for alcoholics hotline?>yeswhat do i need for a tequila sunrise?
>>60143563Boy, you always have a bad feeling about something.
>>60143575Hehe
>>60143552Sell and switch to shorts
>no european options on SPY
>>60143396The point is not you clicking on shady ad banners, it's selling your data so corporations can download your brain and target products to you
>>60143613Don’t do this if you’re dumb, just hold cash
>>60143575Tequila, Grenadine and orange juicePut it together like its a lemon lime and bitters with the grenadine at the bottom, use plenty of iceIf you don't have grenadine you can sub with raspberry cordial or even cranberry juice in a pinch and most customers wont notice
>>60143507Oh dont worry its nothing, that's just exactly what happened on Black Monday
So, the weekend is already well consumed. I expected a carnival of tweets from the WH or the entourage, whispers, whatever, as a desperate attempt to reassure the markets.All I'm hearing are crickets. It's even more frightening. Like, really frightening.
>>60143679Circuit breaker monday coming
I have got my extremely large BBC dildo heating up. It's been on the fire for hours now and will stay there till the markets open tomorrow where I will be on the bed on all fours, watching the stock markets open and collapse. My wife's boyfriend will insert the dildo into my ass to distract me from the pain of my stocks
>>60143679We will never financially recover.
>>60143679It's always quiet before the storm
>>60143683Just sell, you have nothing to gain from holding.
>>60143507In the stock market you can ask for loans and take those loans to do trades, or sit in stocks.There are risks to this. If your actual money is low and your loaned stock drops too low they can ask you to add money to your account or they will force you to sell. The act of asking you is a margin call. You are expected to handle it. If too many people get a margin call and don't make their account positive they all force sell which triggers more margin calls. You start entering a death spiral.
>>60143700What's about my fetish?
Do you think they will put that orange make up on him for the casket?
>>60143690https://youtu.be/bkgoc5G4bjA?si=E8HOqGNsh8cEpNPx
>>60143710Feeding my shorts is more important
If you short and it all goes to literal 0 do they have enough liquidity to pay you? Those fucks can just declare bankruptcy and fuck you over
>>60141918It's an awesome idea for burning money
>>60143721Just use an inverse LETF
What stocks should I put my money in if etfs are too heavily taxed in my country and I have to pay taxes on unrealized profits on them?
>>60143732Country?
Go on you little cucks. Do you still want to make America great again? Or did you finally accept that globalism IS the only option
>>60143752Death to America m8, hope Trump drives this shit into the ground. I'll be feasting on shorts the whole way
>>60142345Wait until he starts shit in Iran and tries to take over Greenland to distract for the internal disaster, as a desperate attempt to boost patriotism and national sentiment. I mean, what's better than coloring your own country color onto another's on the map. We've al played Europa Universalis, we all know how fucking good it feels.Classic "doubling down" retards autocrats like him love to do, History is filed with tombs of those guys. If you thought right now was peak uncertainty, you've seen nothing yet.
>>60143708Fascinating, thank you for spoonfeeding me Wikipedia is useless for this shit
Whenever I have an urge to come here ever since 2020, it usually is around a local market bottom. So I started buying.
>>60143507Is your search engine bing?
>no news over the weekendFuck! I shouldn't have closed my short position.
imagine if it dropped 15%
>>60143818please anon my jagons can only get so hard
>>60143293Buffett simply listened. That's it.Unironically once we reach the bottom, I'll just buy BRK.B and that's it.I don't care he's 94 and might die in the next two years, clearly had and the guys monitoring his company are not turboretards.
>>60143833I will make 10k if that happens
>>60143724But the funds that manage that etf can declare a bankruptcy or the insurers and banks they use
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
When do Japanese markets open so we can see how bad this is going to be monday?
>>60143721This is an actual real fear that emerged in 2008. The trading firms with extremely big short positions realized that if they didn't close their positions, the banks that sold them the positions would go under and not be able to honor them. Ultimately they had to close their shorts or lose them.
>>60143871OKAY THAT'S IT, I'M ALL IN ON SHORTS
>>60143871>I sold before "Liberation day"Lol, lmao even.John Bogle can suck my balls this shit is never recovering.
>>60143871SAUCE
>>60143871but elon...>Musk hopes US, EU get to ‘zero-tariff situatio
>>60143898https://www.reuters.com/markets/eu-seeks-unity-first-strike-back-trump-tariffs-2025-04-06/where are the niggers that said EU wasn't going to respond until Maygo eat shit I should have bought 5 puts and retired by the end of the week
: Hedge funds are facing Lehman-style margin calls due to the market crash triggered by President Donald Trump's tariffs, per DailyMail
>>60143902>It is set to include U.S. meat, cereals, wine, wood and clothing as well as chewing gum, dental floss, vacuum cleaners and toilet paper.Honestly disappointing, wake me up when the target the Mag7 and block Google Adsense and the kikebook equivalent at ISP level like a uBlock on steroids.the EU could do more, and should do more.
>>60143915that would hurt blue statesthey're only tariffing red states
>>60143871>only 28B worth of goodsPriced in
>>60143904is it possible to hit the circuit breaker twice in 1 day
>>60143919Clinical strike might seem good, smart, it's not. Everyone should be a target. China had the appropriate response, and believe me it hurts me to say that.
>>60143924It's possible to blow past the circuit breaker and beat 1987 for the highest drop in one day.Not even kidding. The circuit breakers are only active during regular trading hours. If the dump occurs in pre-market it can dump more than -20% and nothing will happen until the market opens at 9:30 and the 3rd circuit breaker instantly triggers.
>>60143939>market opens closedI jizzed my pants a bitimagine tuesday
>>60143871Shit. Alright I'm cancelling my orders for Monday and going shorts.
>>60143902>approving a first set of targeted countermeasures on up to $28 billion of U.S. imports from dental floss to diamonds.>Trump's tariffs cover some 70% of the EU's exports to the United States - worth in total 532 billion euros ($585 billion) last year - with likely duties on copper, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors and timber still to come.This is fucking pathetic. They need to be punched really fucking hard in the fact so they don't pull shit like this again.
>>60143939I can only get so hard anon, please stop, I sold at the absolute top and and just cumming with my 100% cash pile
>>60143955*in the face>>60143957>tfw didn't sell anything because of insane tax levels in yuropoor land
>>60143963should've bought a putfree money, and it's a hedge if you can't sell
Will he cave?
>>60143404>Big stock is too busy shitting their pants and malding over the tariffs to care about exploiting retail right nowyeah that's what i'm thinking too
>>60143979on monday he's raise the rates by 200 basis points right after the first 10% drop and 5 minutes after the EU tariff meeting
>>60143963>tfw didn't sell anything because of insane tax levels in yuropoor landThey're already rolling out a solution to this "problem."Germany unironically already implemented "unrealized capital gains tax" on non-dividend paying funds and ETFs.
>>60143955On the other hand, it's only a response for the shit from before Wednesday. It's not a proposal for what happened after Wednesday. Mag7 being targeted is still on the table, which is in-line with the mid-april announcements I read a few days ago.I knew this Monday was too quick for the EU. It's not chyna, it's easier when God Emperor Xi can just decide.
>>60143915What companies do you even short for this? Amazon?
Every single event here looks like a red day to me
>Monday>EU proposes to restrict selling of factory equipment to US until tariffs are removedWhat's the winning strategy in this scenario?
>>60143989China and EU are making sure to make red US farmers bleed like no tomorrow. So short them, I guess.
actually we need a tiny rally before wednesday to make puts a bit cheaper
>>60143987It's called "Vorabpauschale" if you want to investigate more.
>>60143999trump gets up on stage and immediately puts a 12 gauge shotgun under his chin and blows his brains out
>>60143999Buying chicken.
>>60144009imagine the DJI going instantly green right next to him
>NOOOOOOO DDRRUUUMMPPFF WHY DID YOU MAKE ME BUY ME BUY 200 PE TECH STOCKS AT THE TOP OF A BUBBLE????You redditors need to go the fuck back.
>>60143987Why do our governments hate us so fucking much?
>>60143987>>60144008it's real.. what the fuck are they smoking in brussels?
>>60143987In snownigger land we have a type of savings account that only pays a yearly flat tax-rate on your entire investment, meaning every trade is tax free.
>>60144076swedes don't suffer with ISK
>>60144076where i live i can get tax-free dividends in my tax-free accounti only buy high dividend ETFs therethere's an annual and lifetime limit on how much you can buy there but the dividends come in forever
>>60144091>>60144091>>60144091new bread
I'm honestly looking forward the second toilet paper crisis.
>>60142050>>60142451there isn't one. It's all just infantile boomer rage and spite. everything Trump says and does can be explained by this.
>>60143395Go back and stay there tranny.!
>>60143784Go to Investopedia next time you need explanations for stock trading and markets.
>>60143791no
>>60143999JFC
>>60143999Acshually... Can you post a source for this? I couldn't find much, other than "machine parts"
