european automakers edition>Some helpful links to numb the painhttps://findahelpline.com/https://www.nvidia.com/refunds/https://www.whitehouse.gov/refundshttps://jlingz.com/>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.comhttps://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Financial TV Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/>Charts:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners: so you feel like in the movieshttps://finviz.com/https://etfdb.com/>Gambling:https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data:https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendarshttps://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.htmlhttps://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform youhttps://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.financialjuice.com/homehttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-ratesPreviously on /smg/>>61493357
Extremely tempted to liquidate my entire portfolio and only be down -$1200 ahead of next year's fucking
we take the skies at dawn GOOD YEAR cats
Thirrrd ForGRRR
>>61494945this is good advice except for money printer stands ready to shit forth trillions again.
AVGO and NBIS bros, before committing suicide, post your portfolio first.
>europe just flat out banned the combustion car by 2035
>>61494947KEK NBIS
>>61494946Hooray, you made it over $9
>>61494958buying calls on my shitbox $3k civic
>>61494954surely that's already priced in
>>61494958Net Zero will never happen. This date will be postponed or moved by 20 years
>>61494979>>61494972I don't understand why they can't just let things happen naturally. They just need force things. It's like their entire civilization is just run by nagging house wives now
schd
>>61494975money printer is the arbiter of prices.
>>61494986They are insane and hate us. They believe themselves the managerial elite of a grand narrative, when functionally anything they touch turns to ash
i called my mom a nigger yesterday.
Uhhh bros?!?!?!
Tesla was the answer. You failed. Better luck next time.
>>61495016>why is nobody using our spyware
>>61495024tbf Tesla is the only company offering something even remotely resembling "self driving" for their car customers.No other manufacturer seems to be able to do it.
>>61494972if you have a clean manual eg or ek, $3k is cheap and would sell in hours, days or a week. people always lurking fbm.
>>61495015Grim
Santa has abandoned us
>>61494986miss you and love you babe. hope you're doing ok. that's 10 years away and it's a worthy goal. know you don't believe in climate change, but it is real. look up the northwest passage. major security concern for us and europe that it's opening. plus smog is a health concern, and so is fuel and oil runoff into water. not to mention energy efficiency. sometimes the market does not really know best, and a regulatory push can really help things. if the government didn't stop it they'd still be dumping pfas in the water, using toxic pesticides. check my latest progress pic btw>>>/bant/23747655
>>61495034also Elon Musk will have CIA backing and support, because the IC doesn't want Chinese cars on American roads making a LIDAR map of everything
>>61495061today was the bottom.
>>61495051>fbm.Vin: 2LMPJ6L99KBL61026
is tsla a memestock or not? keep waiting for it to tank but it keeps on bulling.
>>61495069>will>implying
Is it real that AVGO real EPS wasn't 1.9$ but 0,4$ before financial gymnastics scam?
>>61495016>>61495028Copilot simply wasn't very good vs the alternatives. My impression was too many constraints were placed on it to make it 'better' yet these ultimately defeated its usefulness.
>>61495051>>61495079>fbmVIN: 2LMPJ6L99KBL61026A steal at 22k!
>>61494986>I don't understand why they can't just let things happen naturallyBecause capitalism is inherently eco hostile>>61495014The sustainability goals are not the issue, the jews who corrupt them are
>>61494969hope it isn't a tease and continues to climb, it felt great seeing ITM for the first time since holding these contracts from early last month
>>61495080buy and hold
>>61495086Yeah, I started with copilot just because of convenience but I quickly moved on. Gemini is just so much better, even the free one.
>>61495080self-driving taxis will be massive
18 trillion btw
>>61495082Uhhh bros....
>>61495091>The sustainability goals are not the issue, the jews who corrupt them arethe purpose of a system is what it does
>>61495116KEK
>>61495057please don't generate AI ApusHe deserves better than that
>>61495082the tax benefit is real money. i dunno about the "accounting adjustments" but you can't just claim a financial gain that doesn't exist. broadcom is growing rapidly too, so is the semiconductor industry. 1 bad quarter is just that. broadcom and the whole semiconductor complex are going higher, the industry is seeing significant growth and unprecedented demand.
>>61494945Consider it tax loss harvesting. The big players do it all the time
>>61495168Who is sending these bots?
>>61495080Took a waymo for the first time a week or two ago, I was extremely drunk and don't even remember requesting it but I remember thinking that it's going to be huge and laughing to myself that this roomba is driving me around a major city. I'm skeptical that electric will ever completely replace ICE or self driving will ever completely replace humans but the technology is here. It drove almost perfectly aside from a brief hesitation coming out of a right hand turn at an intersection.
>>61494986The enviro globalists are very hung up on tight timelines for everything. Some are true believers in the literal sense of end of the world in ten years. Others know it's entirely bullshit and feel the time pressure applied is instrumental to successfully pushing their policies through. Invariably when the deadlines get somewhat close they are pushed back as even the true believers can see the batshit emission goal in question is not going to happen in five years or whatever it is. I understand this. What I don't understand is their failure to embrace options that might actually stick. They could have pushed for a hybrid vehicle mandate instead of a pure electric only mandate. Hybrids don't have the electrical grid and charging station infrastructure issues, they are generally embraced by the public as a meaningful cost savings option, reliability is reasonable and power output is good. But no. All electric only.
>>61494954The money printers don't have to print shit after the 18$ Trillion from tariffs fixes our debt
>>61495163they listened to me, no more waiting all weekend for the casino to open
>>61495071Hannukah rally begins next Monday fellow goyim
>>61495181https://www.vice.com/en/article/two-waymo-robotaxis-crashed-into-each-other-confusing-a-third-waymo-and-blocking-the-street/oh no no no
>>61495186Hybrids often have a lower overall carbon footprint than EVs. Hybrids are based. Where I live they give insurance incentives to EVs but not hybrids. It's fucking stupid
>>61495188>after the 18$ Trillion from tariffs fixes our debtis the 18 trillion in tariff revenue available alongside my negative 800% prescription drugs anon?
>>61495189It says 23/5 in actuality tho
How can I buy Spacex pre-ipo shares?!!! I need to buy them before kikes inflate the price to where it's no longer profitable once they become public!!!!
>>61495269Get a job at SpaceX?
Fuck need to become an accredited investor now!!!
This really is the end isn't it? No one is saying anything as the music stops.
>>61495308If Micron doomps it'll unironically be over (but they won't and the bullrun will continue)>captcha: 0G00G (I swear this is a repeat)
>>61495308I'm praying for a Christmas miracle
>>61495308My family has been doing a Christmas gift exchange for like 100 years and they cancelled it for the first time this year because everyone is struggling financially. That didn't even happen during 2008. I'm buying puts on retailers.
I'm looking for the wojack who is red and green at the same time. Can someone post it please?
>>61495361
>>61495361best i got is this?
>>61495338has equities ever been this disconnected from the real economy?
>>61495269Buy them on forge or hiiveAssuming you arent a brokieIf you are a brokie ask your female broker for some of their ipo allocation
>>61495388>print infinite Federal Reserve QE welfare money for (((billionaire oligarchs))) to disproportionately inflate their capital assets>let the goyim proles get raped by uncontrolled stagflation caused by aforementioned (((oligarch))) welfare QE money printing>goycattle retail """"investors""""": "wowie, is this heckin K-shaped economy because of AI????"
>>61495410>K-shaped recoveryYou need to tell your handlers that this is a dumb fucking term and return to "WALL STREET IS DOING GOOD BUT MAIN STREET IS FEELING THE SQUEEZE".I guarantee it will do better in the focus group testing to use before trying to push this narrative again. Trust me on this.
Meeting finished bros>>61494794Turns out it was just that my team and another team will be swapping managers. Might still be a bad thing but probably minor.
>>61495308Honor the Christ child
>>61495454When my manager left to another team, he called me 2 months later to say I was laid off. He helped structure it.
>>61495454Good
>>61495464I don't think my manager is that evil. Or at least I hope not.
>>61495430>umm, ACKSHYUALLY you're the shill!+1 shekels have been deposited into your account, saar
>>61495086My impression was that Microsoft spent the last ten years making things less user friendly all around in an effort to force everybody to rent onedrive storage space for their "My Documents" folder and pay for software subscriptions instead of perpetual licenses that cost the same as 15 months worth of subscription but keep working when you stop paying and also aren't web based.
>>61494986you got beb id btwi'm sorry if i hurt you. and i just want us back in love. we were both much happier, could be so much happier. let me take you back to japan, or anywhere you want to go babe. just take me back to when we were on each other's minds and in each other's hearts. you threw out tech stocks way too early, you're doing the same with our love.
>>61495454My old manager moved out and my new manager fired me within a week or two because of my "Attitude problem".Twice.Fuck women managers.
At least the Biden shills had the courtesy not to mock you for getting poorer when they tried to gaslight you about the economy.
>>61494986like?all the high test men left to the new world
Guys... Winter is coming and is getting pretty cold. Is it time now to buy Natgas companies?
NO SLEEPING IN THE CASINOhttps://www.reuters.com/business/finance/nasdaq-seeks-extend-trading-hours-wall-street-gears-up-247-move-2025-12-15/
>>61495548
>>61495517I'll watch out for that. I've worked with the replacement guy before though, he seems alright. Just a bit more clueless perhaps but that can be a good thing.
>Exclusive: Nasdaq seeks to extend trading hours, as Wall Street gears up for 24/7 movehttps://www.reuters.com/business/finance/nasdaq-seeks-extend-trading-hours-wall-street-gears-up-247-move-2025-12-15/This is fucking stupid and will destroy retail with 2am pump and dumps. It won't even be institutions doing it but instead those moth swarms they have in Asia.>>61494958>Trusting ReutersIt's for new combustion cars and when my own (bong) government announced that it was scrapping its own target the industry just said "lol, we're doing it anyway".
>>61495236Actually yes, both will materialize at the same time, along with the 5k DOGE stimmy.Sources familiar with the matter say it could be as little as perpetually two weeks away
>>61495269DXYZbut beware it is managed by a pajeet
henlo mister jeromewhat happeneded today?
>>61495550Just realize that he's a new guy and you have to do things his way even if/when he's wrong. If he won't listen to you the first time you tell him he's wrong, then you have to be quiet and go along with it from that point, don't keep complaining or pointing out where it's going wrong, just keep quiet. Them's the breaks. Every new manager comes in thinking he can do it better than the last guy and it will take some time before he realizes why the last guy was doing it the way he was.
>>61495517>Fuck women managersPREACH. I've had one good woman manager over my entire career and she was a specialist who worked in high-pressure situations. The rest have either pissed me off so much that I'd get mad in my free time or being cowardly and constantly bugged me about wanting to know my feelings.It's strange because I don't mind line managing women or working with them but if you have a character and value initiative then they start losing their shit.>>61495536Fuck, marry, marry, fuck, fuck>>61495538You're too late for that in December. Natty gas bets are for summer war season and September-October.
Anyone in ASYS? Looks like a good yolo play and could run some more. I liked the dd on MRAM but decided to hold off for now, but will keep a close eye on.
>>61495548um based. when do the 1 hour options drop?
>>61495069>making a LIDAR map of everythingDon't they have enough chinkoidz over here to do this already?
>>61495513Penelope doesn’t exist you brainless egotistical schizo. Get back to fucking bant with your absolute psychosis. Get help.
>>61495430>"WALL STREET IS DOING GOOD BUT MAIN STREET IS FEELING THE SQUEEZE>JEWS are doing good but GOYIM are feeling the squeezeFify
>>61495586>Well, Apu, you see the thing is that we've been lying about a long-term stagflationary recession for almost four years now, and in some respects even intentionally trying to make it worse.>The goal is to make you own nothing and live in the pod.
>>61495635please fix asapthank u mister jerome
>zillow tanked today because of google adding real estate searcheshow are you not bullish on goog yet?
>>61495658You're telling me people invested in a non-proprietary search engine that charges up the ass for brokering house sales?
The indexes are too tech heavy and shit rotating out of tech doesn't matter because the tech heavy index can't do anything.
>>61495564>DOGERent free
>>61495663It had a zestimate... it seemed like a good idea at the time
>>61495082so after michael bury noticed the depreciation scam thing in the financial reports of the big players in this AI cyclejerk, now everyone is putting under extreme scrutiny any data that comes out of there? well, that sounds pretty reasonable, it's better the markets call out all the bullshit gradually rather than watching everything blow up -90%
>>61495718>well, that sounds pretty reasonableYou mean to tell me all of these high IQ ok investors needed to be spoonfed alpha from a paid substack? Doesn't sound reasonable at all actually
>IREN>NBISthere are people that bought the top and are getting raped worse than big zesty kevin nash in the summer of 92
>>61495657No.Btw, your dollars are being devalued everyday as we speak. That means tendies and nuggies prices will go up. Thank you for your attenttion in this matter
Was there an actual reason for todays dump?
>>61495735but excuse me mister jeromei did not vote for this
I made a new account and bought every ETF of every country I could find. Every 6 months I will sell the bottom 5 and buy the top 5. One is this a good idea and two who do you think is going to win
>>61495111too bad they dont have self driving cars
>>61495728i wasnt talking about bury's financial onlyfans, if you look back at the charts basically the top for nvdia and all of these AI related stocks was right before bury began ranting about the hardware depreciation miscalculations. The situation seems to have changed a little bit, instead of just slamming a +10% in stock price for beating earnings, the market seems to take its sweet time (1 or 2 days from the report release) to actually study if there is something weird going on. Of course you see a very strong movement of the stock price the day the report is released, but these rallies are very short lived and fade instantly after some shady financial juggling is discovered
>>61495748Sorry Apu but I am the cliff of the eternal bull market. Crash with me, and be broken.
Buying infrastructure while pissheads cry about the color red
>>61495538You're 4 months late, but Cheniere and Peyto are still moderately cheap imo.
>>61495746there was more sellers than buyers
>>61495746bro how was today a dump? the nasdaq was only down 0.50
>>61495691Actually the government owes me 8 months of back rent for DOGE. I keep sending bills and the fees are piling up.>>61495710>this real estate looking ZESTY
Oracle literally can't stop going down.
>>61495878Oracle is genuinely one of the worst companies on the planet, it deserves to get liquidated and all of the superior products it purchased and ruined be freed.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>61495894nah, that adobe
>futures
>>61495938nah, Adobe sucks ass but they have some good products. Oracle is a mountain of shit.
>>61495945buy the dip
What would the official theme of the AI bubble crash be?>https://youtu.be/tvSlzzXpZEQ?si=enuLUdNDyhfdGgFa
>>61495959https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU1nJIJEzgM
I don't give a hootI'm just going to keep slurping IRENAnd GRRRAnd GAMBSorry, its just I'm all out of hoots.
>>61495959https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4L7RxVARmo
Foxtrot Alpha Tango two panda express plates annihilatedcompletely immoblizedmassive dump expected in t-minus 2 hoursbuy puts on my toilet
How do we make money off the femcel epidemic? There millions of women who say they can’t get a man.
>>61495995Buddy...
>>61495995what brand? one of those fancy japanese smart toilets that plays a schoolgirl crying when your dump hits the water?
>>61496007stick to the classic white woman portfolio>LULU>SBUX>WOOF
>>61496013The bad thing about masturbating on the toilet is the pavlonian response, eventually everytime you fart you pop a boner. A raging pants bursting hard on if you're throwing crying japanese schoolgirls in the mix. I know my limits buddy.>>61496008I'm bulking
Wake me when I make it
oopsie daisy>>61485967
>>61496007I'm only into women that have macromastia and got big natural DSLs, so good luck with that femcels
>>61495957>lol
>Oracle’s rapid descent from market darling to market warning sign is revealing something deeper about the AI boom, experts say: no matter how euphoric investors became over the last two years, the industry can’t outrun the laws of physics—or the realities of debt financing.>Shares of Oracle have plunged 45% from their September high and lost 14% this week after a messy earnings report revealed it spent $12 billion in quarterly capital expenditures, higher than the $8.25 billion expected by analysts. >Oracle’s bond yields blew out, with some newer notes that were once investment grade now trading like junk, as its credit-risk gauge hit the highest level since 2009. It signals that investors who lend to companies, historically the most sober observers of tech cycles, are beginning to reassess the risk of lending into the AI buildout. OracleOracle losing investment grade credit would probably be the start of the AI collapse so it feels likely that they would resist doing so knowing how much rides on it. It's probably already happened too, them knowing they should hit them with a credit downgrade and not doing so, because their bond yields are already in junk bond territory. And the credit swaps are trading as if it's already junk bonds
I can't find any news btw, except this, but I don't believe this to be the reason >US Plans To Reduce The Number Of G-20 Finance Minister Meetings – BBG
>retail wagie>Had to get surgery for nose, deviated septum, turbinates, cauterize broken vessels etc.>Requested the mandatory 2 week period off>Able to use all vacation days for Thanksgiving week entirely before day of surgery on Dec 1st>Supposed to go back to work on 15th but for some reason not scheduled to work at all until 20thAlmost a whole month off and didn't have to put up with black friday bullshit. I'm not sure if this is bullish or bearish since I read holiday spending has been ABYSMAL this year...too bad I may have to work on Christmas week kek.
>>61496093I'm waiting for Nvidia to completely and utterly DESTROY the global economy, those retards are to the AI meme bubble as Enron was to Dot Com.
For long-term growth, dividends are shit due to constantly paying taxes as opposed to only paying taxes when you sell at the end of time. If you do the math, you will see that this causes returns to diverge exponentially.Assume two financial instruments, both returning 10% per year. One of them grows in value, while the other pays 10% of its value in dividends once a year, which you instantly re-invest. Assume 40% taxes on both gains and dividends.The value (post-tax, if you were to sell) of the first instrument at year t is A(t) = (1.1^t - 1)*0.6 + 1, whereas the value of the second instrument at year t is B(t) = (1 + 0.1*0.6)^t = 1.06^t. Notice how the value in the exponent is different 1.10 > 1.06. This means exponential divergence in returns. Setting t=50, we get the following: A(50)=70.8. B(50)=18.4. That’s a 3.8x difference in returns!Note that this argument also applies to ever realizing gains early. Thoughts?
>>61496118Dividends are for fucking retards
>>61496118>dividends are shit due to constantly paying taxes as opposed to only paying taxes when you sell at the end of timeburger investment accounts are so bad lmao
>>61496093This shit, it's like a fuckin WWE shitshow. As if that wasn't foreseeable at all>oh woopsie, how did we see that not comingIt's like it's fuckin scripted. The market >>61496118dis nibba hitting us with the math
Is there a way I can buy options on crypto? I feel like there's going to be a major unwind as the AI bubble pops. None of the crypto projects have delivered on their promises.
>>61495995I get literal cravings for Panda Express even though I know it’s complete garbage. What causes this?
>>61496152there are numerous public crypto companies, or just short it directly. its a horrible idea, but there you go
>>61496118>Assume 40% taxes on both gains and dividendsThis is a retarded assumption because the max you'll pay in taxes is 15%. But the main difference is some companies reach a point where theres nothing they can really do with money. Pepsi or Verizon can't increase their sales by spending more money so they return it to investors. It's safer than betting on a company successfully allocating their cash to grow their business.
>>61496158>its a horrible ideaHow do you figure? I think there's going to be a secular flight to quality as people become very risk-averse from the bullshit going on with AI. Also crypto has some very strong negative seasonality right now.
>>61496093There is no collapse babe. It is an opportunity for you to admit you were wrong and get in at a discount though. You are falling for the fud because you feel like it vindicates you, soothes your bruised ego. You would be better off reflecting on why you were wrong and taking a risk. Think back on this year, the things i have told you and what has played out. I may look like a fool for a time but it is clear i am on the right side of the trend. Ai is a civilizational turning point and a wonderful investment opportunity. There may be better ones but you aren't in those either. Wish you would trust me because there is so much i can help you with.Financial media is extremely unreliable, its just background music for the market action of the day and it changes on a dime, just like the marketIf ai were collapsing, the russell would not be making new highs, breadth would not be improving, the market would be rolling over. This is just a rotation, and the boring parts of the market having this rally is a portent of the good times to come from the wealth spillover from the ai boom. Why elae would it be happening with employment this bad, interest rates this high?
>>61496152IBIT is probably the most liquid but that is a dangerous game for retards like me but you may not be retarded
>>61496169go ahead and try it. you wont be the first or the last to get BTFO shorting a dogshit sector
>>61496171You are the biggest top signal of them all, schizo anon.
>>61496177I know, but it seems like there's a catalyst this time.
>>61496178Man I remember that scene and out of context those lines land very different
>>61496180the markets are schizophrenic and you think you can rely on normie logic?embrace clown world
>>61496168>This is a retarded assumption because the max you'll pay in taxes is 15%.Assume high income and high state taxes. But I agree, realistic rate is closer to 30%>But the main difference is some companies reach a point where theres nothing they can really do with money. Pepsi or Verizon can't increase their sales by spending more money so they return it to investors. It's safer than betting on a company successfully allocating their cash to grow their business.Stock buyback?
>>61496205>Stock buyback?only good when the stock is undervalued
>futures dip buying
>>61496169>SecularIs this a useless word people use to make their argument sound more convincing?Like, what does secular here mean?
>>61496222Stock must be overvalued by 1/0.6=1.67x or 1/0.7=1.43x before dividends are better than buyback (for marginal tax rate of 40% or 30% respectively).
>>61496241>(for marginal tax rate of 40% or 30% respectively)you need to stop posting this
>>61496239Not limited to a single sector or investment thesis, like AI.
>>61496246Sorry buddy, 30% marginal tax rate on long term capital gains is real.
News?
>>61496266
Believe in me babe. I will make you so happy and proud.
>>61496253Wouldn't that be sectoral? Secular is earthly, not religious. Like there's secular states/countries.
>>61496268which one today?
>>61496271Secular in a financial context means not connected to any particular investment thesis or sector, with AI being an example of one such sector or thesis.
>>61496239>Is secular a useless word people use to make their argument sound more convincing?Yes: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/140638/origin-of-scientific-secular-meaning-long-lasting
>>61496288So in that context basically means not being religious and blindly faithful to that thesis/investment, or like others like to say basically "not marrying your investment/stocks/company". Ok, didn't know that.Only know that in political context.
>>61496271secular means a lot of things>>61496286Well we've already got a possible war in South America, a war in Europe, Africa is still Africa and there's the Indo-China jungle war and of course Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. That leaves North America. So I think Mexico and Guatemala are gonna go to war over basedbeans.
>>61496300>Well we've already got a possible war in South America, a war in Europe, Africa is still Africa and there's the Indo-China jungle war and of course Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. That leaves North America. So I think Mexico and Guatemala are gonna go to war over basedbeans.exactlyhard to keep upand you even forgot the Gaza war
>ford
>>61496332what I wrote three days agothe guy is ridiulous>>61478116
>>61496311Oh yeah and don't forget that Israel is also at war with Hezbollah in Lebanon and there's shit going on in Syria with Turkey being involved.
>>61496332It's really funny because the worst part of EU EV's is software lol
>>61495622They don't call it a K shaped economy for nothing.
>>61496141The big issue is that eventually it all comes down to money. And with oracle already in junk bond territory they might have to resort to stock dilution lol
>>61496341exactlyyeah american soldiers just got killed in Syrianoone even knows what theyre doing therelol
>>61496118> This argument also applies to ever realizing gains earlyTurns out at least someone has thought of this, considering that someone already streamlined a way to use Section 351 as a hack to turn single stocks into a diversified portfolio without realizing gains. It looks like a tax prep nightmare though.https://cambriafunds.com/351
>>61496118I'm not trying to troll, do you not realize qualified dividends exist and are literally long term capital gains?
>>61496363>noone even knows what theyre doing therewasting tax dollars
>>61496377oh right, polticians favourite pasttimebut its probably related to Israel
>>61495772>the top for nvdia and all of these AI related stocks was right before bury began ranting about the hardware depreciation miscalculations.Does it seem reasonable to you that burrys new info was the catalyst for the downturn? I'll ask again, all these great high IQ Jewish investors are relying on info from a paid substack? Or do they just want to take profits and are using burry as a cover for their regular year end profit taking. If you don't believe the us is headed for a recession in 2026 you should be loading the boat with tech right now. If you do think we are headed for a recession then you should be short. Simple as. This market can't sustain itself without tech participation in the rally. Without tech participation it's a red year next year.
>>61494954ThisThe stocks have to pump because no one wants cash right now. As long as money gets shit out, owning money makes no sense.
>>61495772>after some shady financial juggling is discoveredThe market is acting like these data centers won't be built. I'm guessing by the time I'm an old boomer the rust belt (my home) will be nothing but data centers.
News status?
>>61496410
>>61496370Ok, let’s add it up. Assuming a high income of 750k/yr in the high tax state of california:20% federal cap gains3.8% federal NIIT12.3% california income tax (applies to cap gains)That adds up to a 36.1% marginal tax rate for long term capital gains (and qualified dividends).
>>61496395>The market is acting like these data centers won't be built.Most won't be. Even the corrupt morons who run Texas are calling the bluff.
>>61496152You can buy futures on various platforms, I think Coinbase does and I know Kucoin does. I was doing that during the rundown in 2022 from 60k to 10k and would have made bank if Do Kwon hadn't pumped shit from 40k back up to 49k with Terra Luna right after I bought. I held until I was less than $500 from margin call (at about 50k) before I finally gave up and sold so I would at least have *something* left while everybody was screaming "100K, here we go!", but then it never quite made it to the mark that would have wiped me out and within a few days was plummeting again.
>>61496437>Most won't beBy 2026.
>>61496198What is it from?
>>61496430>>61496370The point is not that dividends are taxed more, it’s that they’re taxed earlier, and this destroys compounding growth.
>>61496446just based on power demand alone you know they wont be. generating power is the easy part, take 8 years and put up a natural gas plant. the infrastructure is whats truly inconceivable
>>61496450BillionsIn the show, his wife is a nurse and she's pitching him a business idea where you can hire a nurse to come give you an IV if you're hungover, or something like that
>>61496430why the FUCK are you in california you fucking retard that's like living in Europe
Should I take my loses with Oracle or wait for this so called Santa rally
>>61496477It wouldnt matter where they lived darling. The point is the same. And i will show you all the nice things about california one day, you will never want to leave. He is right, you are wrong, be a big girl and admit it instead of doing this nonsense again.
imagine buying oracle back when it was $345.72, couldn't be me>182.53 nowkek just imagine holding that>>61495517>Fuck women managers.yeah. i dont even wage anymore but they were problematic compared to men
>>61496477You can change any time babygirl. And you will be so glad when you do. This could be you on my lap right now, getting kisses and wrapped up all cozy. What is your favorite stock right now, you arent still buying reits are you?
>>61496410>>61496266>>61495945Oh no ! S&P500 is dumping to levels unseen since two-and-a-half weeks ago.Bitcoin is doing the same.
>NVIDIA details new software that enables location tracking for AI GPUs.>The software enables data center operators to monitor various aspects of an AI GPU fleet, including detecting the physical location of these processors—a possible deterrent against smuggling chips.>The software is opt-in rather than mandatory.The fuck is this shit???
>>61496500I love these posts
>>61496556How would a sane organisation not hide the datacenter behind correctly configured firewalls, that allow no outgoing traffic to where it shouldn't go?
oh man, i really feel like buying MSTR
>>61496556>The fuck is this shit???A hardware backdoor
>>61496563Not afraid of looking foolish when i know i am right. I am a very shrewd investor and i know that you need to suffer pain and volatility to get the best returns. When the turnaround happens it will all be worth it. She is a very special girl
>>61496556That's also why China months ago said to not buy AMD and NVDA. But then again Trump allows the sale of H200. Then China again says to not buy. Then NVDA says there's so much demand. Who the fuck is lying here?
>>61496550You may not be aware of this, but you just posted the most bearish thing you possibly could. These posts ALWAYS (ALWAYS (!!!)) mark the beginning of a brutal multi-year bear market.
>>61496118That is why you keep the dividends in a Roth account and withdraw them last in retirement.
>>61495570>2.5% feeOof. Guess they can get away with it though.
>>61496332>hmm yes let's pander to the demographic that hates EVs the mostBrilliant business plan. >>61496363>yeah american soldiers just got killed in SyriaIsis faggots sperging out
I'm sick of being a fucking cuckold. I'm selling all my AI stocks and buying silver.
i love you babe, with all my heart and i just know you'll see things clearly some day. can you believe this? sometimes the market just knows best and the high prices are justified. i know you demand a premium too, willing to pay it, this does hurt me though dear. i hope you have a good night and remember there is a key to every lock and a path to every destination, and sometimes it feels better to find out you're wrong than to be proven right.
I hope the GTranny has sold his options, I've heard enough crying about $9also >>61494966KEK GRRRKEK GAMB
The paid political campaign shills on /pol/ are unironically going with the narrative that computer hardware shortages and price increases are actually a good thing because they're wholesome and nostalgic like the 1990s.
>>61496677>sometimes it feels better to find out you're wrong than to be proven right.Hard disagree, it always feels good to be right and it always feels shitty to be wrong. Simple as.
>>61496687Twitter is also filled with nothing but ragebait. I've reduced using it. Too much of that and actual fakeinfo (post saying video is about germany, but it's netherlands and similar stuff)
>>61496691there's nothing better than realizing you're wrong. that's how you learn. you end up wiser than you were before, you become right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baNueuDCue0
>>61496701>you end up wiser than you were before, you become right.Yea but that still doesn't feel good in the moment. That good feeling realizes itself in the next win.
>>61496687I wasn't calling it wholesome and nostalgic when I mentioned the frequent memory factory fires of the early to mid 90s
>>61496709I wasn't talking about /smg/, I was referring to this >>>/pol/523670401. It's full of extremely obvious>how do you do, fellow goyimstories from their made up israeli version of the 1990s. Prepare to cringe.
Bleak
>memecoin/data center stocks drop 15-20% in one dayhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pct1uEhAqBQ
>>61496205>realistic rate is closer to 30%I paid 48% last year, but mainly because I live in a shithole and my trades count as income and not capital gains because majority of my profitable trades were held under a year
i've wasted 6 years for 0 gains.
>US government launches campaign to hire engineers for AI, tech roles http://reut.rs/4914GhJ
>>61496410>BOOOOBBLE
>>61496782Then us government will lay off 99.9% of them when the bubble pops
>>61495554based tbqh>>61496687Only good thing that will come from this is a wave of optimization and total webshitter/win11 death.>>61496724I'm tired of pointless nostalgabait and this is someone that unironically likes shit like frutager aero. >t. zoomer
>>61496774Iktf but make it 7 years and for something else and at a net loss of 4 figures.Must feel worse for stocks. All that time spent watching charts, placing trades, the agony of losses, the short term joy of gains, and in the end break even. You could say you learned much but even after all that learning it yielded you no gains. So many years down the drain and it gets worse if you can't let it go. Sunk cost into continuing on, who's to say you won't screw up and lose it all? No amount of sunk cost is going to keep you in when you have no money left for trading.
>>61496843That’s why investing/trading with your own money is a losing proposition compared to trading with capital provided by partners.
how do i invest in ukraine after the war is over? or should i invest in russia?
What's the market feel for the jobs report tomorrow?Nothingburger or expected to have some impact?It is a big opex this week.
>>61496892Ukrainian bonds?
>>61496901put me down for 'nothingburger'Powell is lying about job growth not being negative, but it's not as grim as people have been projecting either. We're just in-line for another month of krabby patties until we get New Years rally. What has effectively been happening is what is known as 'phased layoffs'. Where companies do mass layoffs, but don't announce them as mass layoffs, because they aren't done all at once. So this way, they keep the illusion of being strong, healthy companies while never having to admit that they've been undergoing serious cuts. This boosts optimism in their company, and thus is illegal in some countries because of how misleading it can be. But it looks very nice on the jobs report.
>>61496892Long Slavic sex workers
>>61496892>invest in ukraineAll of the natural resources are located in the provinces that Russia currently controls - not a coincidence. What's left of Ukraine is only some farm land and Blackrock already bought it. The problem investing in Russia is, well the Russians.
Im fucking stressed because I dropped 10k on 2X Oracle before earnings.I was gonna use that money to buy gifts for my family God please let me get that money back i swear i will never gamble again
>>61496938isn't the best time to invest in a country after a war? construction, financial, healthcare surelly will bring profits
Likelihood for a red week is much higher this week. That way next week we can recover on 0 volume just like thanksgiving week.
I know I know I already smashed two panda express plates for dinner but whay about second dinner? Two burritos al pastor with avocado and sour cream and a fat side of sweet potato fries
Am I just too new or is this a particularly volatile quarter without much of a catalyst?
>>61496892Set up an NGO to import and feed Africans as "new Ukrainians"Pocket moneySome slav mafia dude will probably muscle you out eventually but it'll be a sweet ride until then
>a handful of phoenix energy of all things is my one one spot of green todayt-thanks
anyways maybe it could dump hard tomorrow but I no longer trust futures
>>61496947>isn't the best time to invest in a country after a warIf you are wealthy and the winning government is backing you yes. If the country, or what's left of Urkaine is dogshit, what are you going to invest in, and consider how corrupt Ukraine is. Also other European countries do not want the war to end, but they do not have the money or militaries to fight Russia, I think they are going to go full retard to start a bigger war before the US officially pulls out of Europe.
>>61496945>these are the people that tell you "nothing ever happens"
>if you don't look at the futas you can't see how throbbing and red they are
who else slurping vix rn?
>>61497005Actually, that's a good idea. Thank you for the reminder.
>>61495959https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYjZK_6i37M
>>61496892Load up on EU construction companies
>>61496962lose weight
>>61496969now THIS is israelimaxxingdoubly so if you mask your human trafficking as a humanitarian effort so you can take deductible donations, all of which happen to come from companies you control :^)
>>61497005>>61497012expecting a culturally enriched tuesday, are we?
>>61497033No, today is Ostmullendienstag.
>>61497039ja ja hans
>BUBBLE BUBBLE BUBBLE BUY THE HEKIN SHINY ROCK!!!
>>61497068>>61497043>>61497039this is incredibly bullish
>>61496992Im going to make it back.
>>61496909why are slavic women so beautiful yet their dudes look like orcs.
NOW
what do I heckin buy, I was going to buy weedstocks until they shot up and im not about to buy the top of a stock. Gimme something still on the downlow
>>61497019i weigh 175i'm bulking
>>61497080their personality balances things out
>>61497080i got jerked off by a russian chick once, she was hot but it smelled like shit when i spread her ass cheeks open.
>>61497105The pussy is for fucking fag.
>>61497105i'm imagining the aroma>>61497093gamestop unironically
>>61497119give me one GOOD reason why lmao
This house of cards is never gonna collapse at this point. Might as well yolo into NVDA before the RAMpocalpyse gets worse
>>61497115she didnt let me have actual sex with her, I was just rubbing her clit from the rear
>>61497135seems to move between 20-30. they're not going bankrupt and they're not up 60% ytd already. everything else seems topped
>>61497155give me another one instead, I don't like the idea of gamestop right now.
Alright, the AI bubble has popped.Is this what the AI doomers were expecting? There is no more popping to be had. You are financially illiterate if you believe NVDA will long term return to double digit prices. Same about GOOG (which isn't even a true AI play).
>>61497155Screw it, I bought. What's the worst that could happen?
>>61494934>Oracle and AVGO reveal AI isn't as profitable as people thought>The current share prices priced in exponential gains for the next decade>People wonder why they're dumping after earningsNah but it's really the BoJ raising rates LOL
>>61496590Thanks for posting this bottom signal
>>61495995mman how do people eat these things lolthey're just pink dogs
>>61497215Reddit is panicking.
>>61497242onions green
>>61497242they lie to themselves
SK Hynix was down over 4% today expect the same for tech stocks, the NASDAQ futures almost down 1%
What does /smg/ think of Robinhood gold?
>Markets predict 40,000 jobs created in November>Powell already said employment is currently overestimating jobs by over 60,000 a month meaning there's more than 20,000 jobs losses each monthWhy the disconnect between what Powell said at the conference and market expectations?
If they actually hammer this peace through you guys should probably look at large european construction companies like Vinci, Skanska, Ferrovial etc.Vinci has a P/E of 14.
>IRBTfuck em
>>61497344Market is retarded and fake and gay. This is financial advice .
>>61497349Strabag SE
>>61497215>>61497243Plebbit is smarter than nu/biz/.
>>61494934someone can you give me the picture of the pepe pissing on the guy from the limoplease give me the piss
>>61497372Looks good on quick glance, thanks. Gonna look further into it.
>>61497212BOJ?
*GEV
>>61497421Bank of Japan
>>61497421Bank of Jalalabad
>Dell's computer prices are about to rise for corporate clients from Dec 17, increasing "between 10% and 30%" depending on the contract, The price hikes are linked to surging demand for memory units>https://www.businessinsider.com/dell-price-hikes-memory-demand-ai-chip-race-computer-2025-12?utm_source=reddit.comJesus christ man fuck this AI meme
>>61497434>lower rates into hot inflation to the point that some overleveraged shitco can take out loans to buy out 40% of the global DRAM marketI warned you about premature rate cuts bro, I told you dawg.
>>61497427>>61497429Ya but is it a nothingburger?
Can EU fuckin once not buy, fuckin bitch basterds
>>61497447Expectation of the BoJ raising rates has been factored in for over a month and is one explanation given to the November dump the markets aren't going down small and mid caps keep reaching ATH the only sector down recently is AI related tech stocks fueled by Oracle and AVGO earnings because as I said their share prices were based on exponential growth for the next ten years this isn't happening so they're being sold off the only reason why people act like the entire market is doing bad is because people you see commenting online are overweight in these same stocks now dumping
>>61497448What you talk...bhenchod I fuck you bloody!
>>61495513out
i have come to terms with the fact that my 8k in ibit and tqqq options are fucked. rip
>>61497349I really doubt it'll happen now. Trump's word is bullshit and Europe doesn't want another Sudetenland. And Russia won't agree to anything other than capitulation. So basically all sides want to continue fighting.
>>61496909Why cant I get a gf who looks like this?>>61496945When it was over $300?
>>61496115ENRON 2007DOTCOM 2000
Oracle will be 10% green today.
>>61497460Motherchod, who you talk to, this is my last warning
>>61497505>Oracle will be 10% green today.
>>61497498It went to $328 on the 10th of September after OpenAI announced Oracle would build their data centres for $300 billion dollars on credit of course because OpenAI is good for the money and the other $1.2 trillion they've committed
>>614975055% red minimum SK Hynix already dumped on the KSC
Wonder if it's a good point to buy if Oracle goes negative on the year. Probably has a 2x P/E at that point.
i can't believe they let byakuya say the n word 2008 really was a different time huh
>>61497542>shonen fan>autistic>self-admitted evil personit's like pottery
>>61497610i know what i am, unlike you who has a trooned out morality.
i would like to issue a retraction to a previous statement this is best bleach girl this is financial advice
>>61497615>i know what i amyes, a commie, we got that covered already
>>61497619keep saving face and deflecting. very indian behavior of you how curious.
What is this pattern called?
>>61497627the build up to my financial ruin obv
>>61497625why would I care about what an evil person like you thinks of me?
its over
>>61497637the thoughts of a hypocrite dont matter. you're not even human at this point. this pig >>61495995 has a more coherent comprehension of itself than you do.
shit never stays flat when it's down
>>61497655thank you for proving my point ;)
>>61497674whatever you say hypocrite
>>61497645No, Comrade Premier. It has only begun.
>>61497678don't be such a sore loser, dr. evil. watch a few episodes of your favourite children's cartoon. that should lift you up :)
>>61497695nigger dont you dare bad mouth bleach
Are you taking the appropriate steps to protect your privacy once you make it, Anons? Remember that: protecting your privacy = protecting your physical safety.You don't want to be persecuted by financial stalkers, scammers or even worse kidnappers and hitmen and the only way to do it is simply to shut up and don't tell anyone about your net worth.It's so simple: just shut up and don't tell anybody, there are only three entities that need to know about your net worth and these are the internal revenue agency of your country, your bank and your accountant, period. All the other people in your life need to mind their own business, asking someone how much money he has is considered extremely rude and inappropriate in western society anyway.
>>61497709>internal revenue agencyreminder that if you do your own taxes you can {{[[""(((accidentally)))""]]}} mess up with no consequence
>>61497349I am deep into RENK (had 50% profit at one point, that's gone now kek) but the peacetalks are wrecking me. Pretty sure Russia will do a Christmas surprise though and attack heavily.
if I keep buying rocketlab I'll forget about the blood in my shit
>>61497711>{{[[""(((accidentally)))""]]}}is this code?
Being green is so easy. If you go red just sell and buy back for a lower cost basis.
>locksneed finally getting out of its rut>DOWNGRADED >:( t. morgan stanley
Yeah today is going to be blood red
>>61496093>entire thread full of doomers>50 stale froggo mehmehs>TWO (2) GENUINE BOBOS POSTEDGS, your narrative control botnet needs more time in the oven.
the stupid fucking retard president cunt needs to stop fucking dicking around and reschedule cannabis already holy shit what a fucking piece of shit asshole faggot retard
>>61497730>you sell>it goes up again>you buy in>it dumps
>>61497627Ssshhhhhhhh
>>61497730>be green >200% profit>only put in 1k instead of 10k>be green>+50% profit on 10k>don't cash out>lose all profitfuqqq :D
>>61497796Drugs are bad mmmmmkay
>>61497796>>61497908Cannabis is GOODFentanyl is WOMD
>>61497627The samplerate aliasing
poomp
i cant post in a stale bread
HOLY SHIT 4,6 UNEMPLOYMENT IT'S OVER
Une pipe :(
Wait, are farmers fucked?
>>61498044I guess SPY keeps goibg up because more rate cuts coming (ignore the inflation pls)
>Total nonfarm payroll employment changed little in November (+64,000) and has shown little net change since April. In November, employment rose in health care and construction. Federal government employment declined by 6,000, following a loss of 162,000 in October. (See table B-1.)In November, health care added 46,000 jobs, in line with the average monthly gain of 39,000 over theprior 12 months. Over the month, job gains occurred in ambulatory health care services (+24,000), hospitals (+11,000), and nursing and residential care facilities (+11,000).Construction employment grew by 28,000 in November, as nonresidential specialty trade contractorsadded 19,000 jobs. Construction employment had changed little over the prior 12 months. Employment in social assistance continued to trend up in November (+18,000), primarily in individual and family services (+13,000). In November, employment edged down in transportation and warehousing (-18,000), reflecting a job loss in couriers and messengers (-18,000). Transportation and warehousing employment has declined by 78,000 since reaching a peak in February. >Federal government employment continued to decrease in November (-6,000). This follows a sharp decline of 162,000 in October, as some federal employees who accepted a deferred resignation offercame off federal payrolls. Federal government employment is down by 271,000 since reaching a peakin January.> (Federal employees on furlough during the government shutdown were counted as employedin the establishment survey because they received pay, even if later than usual>The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for August was revised down by 22,000, from -4,000 to -26,000, and the change for September was revised down by 11,000, from +119,000 to +108,000. With these revisions, employment in August and September combined is 33,000 lower than previouslyreported.
>>61498050Oh im a retard
>>61498063>nonresidential specialty trade contractors>added 19,000 jobsDatacenters?
>>61498063Who's hyped for the recession next year? Only sector employing is healthcare to care for the dying boomers
>>61498100GOLDEN AGE
>The US economy added 64,000 jobs in November as the unemployment rate crept up to 4.6%, according to Labor Department data published Tuesday.Keep in mind Powell said jobs growth was being overestimated by over 60,000 a month so it's already showing 0 jobs growth and after revisions it will be even less
>>61498100priced in. QE engaged. melt up in progress.
>>61498112Just in case you think I am lying about Powell's comments
>>61498050It's actually -105k. According to Timiraos
Get that printer on nigga we are BACK.
>>61498140There are NO federal employees to work the printing machines! ALL FIRED>Federal government employment continued to decrease in November (-6,000). This follows a sharpdecline of 162,000 in October, as some federal employees who accepted a deferred resignation offercame off federal payrolls. Federal government employment is down by 271,000 since reaching a peakin January.
>>61498126Powell is a hack. He doesn't know shit
>government prints money>everybody cheers>i print money>get locked away forever
>>61498181Sure thing buddy this is the same scenario as 2007 no hiring, more layoffs, higher revisions to previous layoff figures all leading to a recession because of mass layoffs
advanced algorithmic crabbing
Sept to November:>White unemployment from 3,7 to 3,9>black from 7,5 to 8,3>asian from 4,4 to 3,6>hispanic from 5,5 to 5,0Looks like hispanics are in demand.
>>61498069Building gas turbine plants for the data centers. Restarting old coal plants, restarting old nuke plants.
>>61498069Construction still booming for now.
Something, someone, needs to bake before opening bell. Hop to it scum
>>61498272oh boy does that mean NFE will actually do something and take the thumb out their ass?since i bought, im sure it wontfuck youstop using fucking punctuation and capitals you look like bots
BANG BANG BANG BANG BANGCAM ON AND MAKE SOME FOOKIN' GAINS
Damn. Powell was right.
>>61498291LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Uhm, yields pumping?
>>61498291Based
there are anons in this thread right now that bought TMF at $41
due to inflation we have to stretch out threads past the bump limit to make ends meet :(
>>61498199Or some unemployed were deported, and some illegals that used to report unemployed does dare to do so anymore
>>61498300Bastard bankers being battered by bond buyers because buck broken bond baggies bought big brass balls
>>61498300Isn't it expected with the printer on?
Honestly I’m pretty surprised that social media isn’t really overreacting that much about the economy. Looking at these numbers yes it appears Gen Z cannot get the job they got a degree for. Also U6 unemployment rates is terrible and up 1% during Trump. Only job growth was in retail sales, health care and social work. Some construction but definitely heck no not computers or business. Hours worked ticking up implies people working two jobs which would make me angry too. When people get stressed they buy random toasters and coffee and shit which explains core retail sales but also being too poor for a new car.Thing is during a truly bad recession there wouldn’t even be jobs so it’s still a 4/10 economy that is basically you can live with it. That is my take on things.
>>61498337>it appears Gen Z cannot get the job they got a degree foryet another case of Gen Z not looking at what happened to Gen Y
NEWs/NYHETER/UUTISET >>61498357NEWs/NYHETER/UUTISET >>61498357NEWs/NYHETER/UUTISET >>61498357
>>61496152Ibit is very liquid, the bid ask spread on the options is usually really tight, somewhat comparable to spy
