Next year in Jerusalem.For posterity and in case things like reverse image search do not work, give due credit to those who create Rei's images by indicating author and/or source if known.Discussion always welcome, but offer an image, if available.>Previous thread: >>4381900>General archive:https://pastebin.com/nzPXrU5D
The time of bondage will last but a little while now.
I wonder if Rei feels cold. Probably, from the inside and outside. She needed to take up flesh for the mission to end all missions. A wedding that would end all weddings. An Ultimate Unity between humanity and Rei. A between humanity itself.
>>4384076*And
>>4384076Considering that japan is stucked in an endless summer, Rei's body must really suffer the cold. Afterall her physical body is the same of a regular girl except hair,eyes and the lack of menstruations. Even if this last point can be present also in irl women and could be related to several reasons. (was rei highly stressed? Was her body weight appropriate?) But probably is related to her "origins"
>>4384113>lack of menstruationsI never noticed this. Probably because it was explained indirectly when the red was having them.On "Why?". Manga had Rei taking pills. Either to keep her stable until the time was right for Third Impact or to keep Her body from breaking up. Melanin in Her skin was absent and the rest of differences that you pointed out. And EoE had a scene of Her arm falling off. Showing signs of decay. Gendo paid the price. A tense moment. Followed by relief.Rei's "Birth" wasn't normal nor natural. She was literally born in a tube.
I'm a bit bit drunk so cute rei dump now
>>4384115Her Inner monologue.I totally forgot about that part of EoE but i'll rewatch it tomorrow btw. Watch EoE on Christmas evening would be a too bit extreme lol.
>>4384250Wait. Weren't you drunk yesterday? I'm in no place to ridicule or even disagree with your actions. Just hope your doing well, man. Seems like there's a reason behind the bottle. Tomorrow is another day.
>>4384255>Tomorrow is another day.Maybe that's the problem.
>>4384255Mmm no! Was some days ago. Now i'm fine just few (2) shots of grappa with uncle after lunch lol.Drunk for me it's just a glass of wine or a beer i can't handle alchool ahah.In an hour will be ok :)
>>4384260I'm referring to >>4383455. Either way. Cute Reis.
>>4384259I cope my issues in different ways...Alchol for me only in socials situations but never get the point i'm sick for hours or vomit. But i appreciate the concern :)
>>4384262Well, either way. Hope you get through whatever you have going on. Your path is your's to make. The path ends only when one stops breathing.
>>4384261Love cute Rei. Amazing how eva characters can be really cute despite the show is quite...tragic.
>>4384267It really makes one want to be there for the beloved characters. EVA speaks to each person individually. For every person has their own perspective.
>>4384076She doubtlessly feels pain, as shown multiple times from start to finish. This indicates Rei has a functional physiological and neurological system to at least some extent; but it should also be noted that Rei obviously has a very strong capability to *endure* pain, far beyond what would bring even the strongest men to a state of disabled begging. She consumes food and seems to enjoy it more than as simple sustenance, so we can assume that many of the normal processes of a Homo sapiens sapiens are present. She clearly, though, has capacities alien to us, both in the light scan we saw near the beginning of the series as well as the extraordinary abilities demonstrated to us at the end, both before and after Instrumentality is instated. So at least until the end of 'Rei II', I think we could reasonably say that Rei feels heat or its absence. After, though?
>>4384309Indeed. I still wonder why She had those bandages. Always in the same spots. One eye and a "broken arm". Why? I doubt Rei sustained the same injuries everytime.When She absorbed the "The Tower" Angel and self destructed the Unit 00. That time I suspect it was to fool Shinji. (Obviously orchestrated by Gendo) But even that little fool (Shinji) realized that something was off. Since he noticed Rei's different behavior from the Rei he knew before. All those warm moments. They died with that Rei.
>>4384309Also, that picture of Rei reminds that even now in "the most wonderful time of the year" there are people who don't get to experience that joy. The happiness and absence of pain. People whose sadness and cries get no recognition. Like tears in the snow. They freeze and become a part of something that brings joy to children. Those who know no sorrow. Santa Claus? The original person was known for doing something about that. Now even his legacy has become an advertisement for a soft drink. Changed into a cultural Icon with no relation to the person "Santa Claus" is based on.
>>4384315>When She absorbed the "The Tower" Angel and self destructed the Unit 00. That time I suspect it was to fool Shinji. (Obviously orchestrated by Gendo)To make it seem like Rei survived. She just came back with bandages.
>>4384265Thanks, really! My life could better but now it's not even bad. I am going to start to travel the world next year (nothing wild but still)I am already glad i live in a first world country that in case will experiment war, would mean nuclear holocaust lol. >>4384268Yes, really. I can't really ignore how i care about Rei II despite everything... >>4384315I rewatched that episode last monday and yeah i had the same feeling. Why should Rei have the bendages in the same spots? Considering also we find out the true nature of Rei in that episode.. If 1+1=2 well yes was a Gendo's plan to deceive Shinji (and the watcher too)>All those warm moments. They died with that Rei.YES! >>4384337Zeruel? Yes with Zeruel she survives but later Rei II dies/sucides against Armisael.Anyway your reasoning does not change. I just checked the episode and yeah she has the bendages. Weird considering she is a new clone...
>>4384345I did get confused when Rei seemingly sacrificed the Unit 00 and herself with the N2 bomb against Zeruel. Turns out She did survive the encounter and they got Unit 00 working again. How strong are those N2 bombs?
>>4384353I did not wish to see that horrible image again, let alone on a holiday I cannot celebrate. But: the bombs are incredibly strong, yet so are the Eva units and the AT-Fields, and we know that Rei's AT-Field is the strongest of all. >>4384337Yes, I think you have confused two events. Rei, or rather the host body of Rei's soul, died during the battle with Armisael. Given the destruction of Unit 00, this allowed the soul-fragment (whatever it is) of Rei I and of Rei II to reunite into Rei III. I still am not entirely clear in my understanding of those events.>>4384345>died with that ReiI am not so sure. She certainly seems colder in the third incarnation than the second, but did Rei really lose memories or the like? It depends I suppose on what is transferred by the soul: only the spirit, or its experiences too? Ah, man's language is insufficient for these matters.
>>4384359>Rei, or rather the host body of Rei's soul, died during the battle with Armisael. Given the destruction of Unit 00, this allowed the soul-fragment (whatever it is) of Rei I and of Rei II to reunite into Rei III.After each Rei clone's death I assume the remains are then possibly liquidized into LCL and then "stored" in the next Rei clone. The tube where Rei is swimming in after each death has tubes going down into it from the ceiling. Probably the machinery that does the procedure.>Yes, I think you have confused two events.Yes I have. But I remember him thanking Rei for sacrificing EVA Unit 00 on both occasions. For damaging it with N2 bomb and completely destroying it with the self destruct sequence. I was referring to the fact that She was wearing bandages even after We saw Her die in the battle with Armisael. To make Shinji think She survived.
>>4384359Let me post smiling Rei to balance :)> It depends I suppose on what is transferred by the soul: only the spirit, or its experiences tooShe had some confused memories. Rei recalled she already cried but could not remember why. Also In ep25 we can see Rei I, Rei II, Rei III discussing.Somehow, experiences, in a fragmented way are shared. Maybe with time (and/or specifics therapies) a rei clone can rebuild the memories of the previous ones. Who knows..., Rei II (correct me if wrong) never recalled Akagi's mom killed Rei I.
Rei!!!!That is all.
>>4384361>After each Rei clone's death I assume the remains are then possibly liquidized into LCL and then "stored" in the next Rei cloneWell, rather horrifying, that. Never considered it. I will have to review those scenes.>To make Shinji think She survivedWe have to wonder why that was done. Shinji grew more distant and fearful when he realized the Rei he saw again was not physically the same one. Intentional on Gendo's part, to make it less likely they would connect and overthrow him?>>4384363Ah, so much to think about. Brother, I intend to spend the next eighty years or more working on all this. That is the meaning of my OP: it is significant only to me, and I will recognize it in due time. Fortune favours those who seek the truth.
>>4384422I have screamed out that name so many times in exercising exertion...
>>4384422But message received. An affirming one, at that.
>>4384423>Well, rather horrifying, that. Never considered it. I will have to review those scenes.Nothing horrifying about it. The same was done with Yui's remains. The dead Rei's remains had the "memories". That made the other Rei's relative to Rei l and Rei ll. That's why they had that "conversation" like the other anon said. Because all dead Reis resided in one body. The clones.>We have to wonder why that was done.Shinji knew nothing about Rei's cloning. They needed to keep him in the dark. Remember how Shinji was introduced to the Rei clones? By people that betrayed NERV. People that were out of line. And the only person that did try to overthrow Gendo directly was Ritsuko. And paid the price. As Gendo started the Third Impact for personal reasons, so did Ritsuko try to stop it for personal reasons.
>>4384439*that made the other Reis
>>4384423>Intentional on Gendo's part, to make it less likely they would connect and overthrow him?Gendo was using Rei to get what he wanted, but having connection with Shinji, Rei probably awoke Yui's part inside her. Then proceeded to punish Gendo for what He did to Shinji. (Ripping his arm off and devouring him with EVA Unit 01). It was literally Yui that bit off the top half of Gendo.I still feel bad for Gendo. No matter what he did. Because I see Shinji in his shoes if he chose Rei. He would be going the same path that Gendo went. Directly and indirectly. Because Rei is Yui. And Shinji is just like his father. It would be like another Gendo and Yui.
>>4384454Business is business, I guess. Lmao. There were also those awful EVA/MC transformers.
Oops. Accidentally posted a mcdouble Rei, huh.
>#239How do you even go on for this many threads without running out of pictures to post
>>4384454Till rei is smiling everything is fine :)>>4384460Ah yes! >>4384462Well actually is funny but i prefer those cheap (And without royalty payment) sponsorship EvaXRandom Hispanic Fast Food franchise. I think 8 had seen one even in my neighborhood years and years ago (I'm not Latino and live in Europe lol)
>>438447229years of pics. I only fear AI will stop the production of Rei's human-made pics.
>>4384483But it will skyrocket the value of human made Rei pics. Those who value the dedication will collect and archive all the human created ones.It's a rarity in these threads to see new and unique Rei pics. Most are reused from past threads.
>>4384472>>4384487There are many, many, many images of Rei. More too than just on the boorus: ones from old manga, volumes, physical image books, concept books, ancient dead web pages you can only access via archives, one-off art posted and then deleted, etc. For the dedicated, there is always more. Even if you have to trudge through garbage to get it. It's a nice pastime of mine: I simply seek to over the course of my life archive every single image of Rei ever created. There are issues, of course, with defining 'Rei'.>>4384483'AI' 'art' is annoying and worthless. So too the continuing proliferation of collaborations between Eva and nonsense products. Unfortunately, its popularity proved also to be a problem. A deep problem. Neither will stop people with passion and talent from producing images of Rei. But you are right that it will make such things more valuable. Value lies in scarcity, as much as I despise consumerism: therefore as the production of slop increases, the proportion of the real will likely decrease, leading to their increased value. We speak sentimentally, of course, not monetarily, but to me it is an equivalent comparison.
>>4384534>But you are right that it will make such things more valuable.You are replying to >>4384487, right? Just so we're "on the same page". I'm not the "shield Rei" poster.Anyways, yes. Many creators without names. Anons with talent and dedication. People who know what they are doing. AI is a made problem. You can't control it. People willingly will want it to be controlled. Therefore shortening one's own liberty out of desperation. What We see: "Human drawn Rei art dying" is just a side-effect. The core is how you said: "Humanity's impatience". To get it done quick and without thinking about the consequences. The value doesn't go down for art. It stays the same. For us. Human drawn Rei art will become even more valuable. For the walls will close in.
>>4384454Everytime I look at this pic. My eyes don't register that as "Rei". The hair, the eyes, the smile. There was a time when that smile had weight. A meaning.Like pissing on the fans' heads.
>>4384538*Now it's like
>>4384537Yes I recognized that now; my quote numbers were not clear.Impatience will be our downfall. May as well try to do good things with the life you have, ignore the foolishness around us, as the walls close in --- as you said.>>4384538I'm not even going to look below Rei's shoulders in that pic you referenced. It's a good example of what I refuse to archive: I will archive bad art if it is demonstrative of amateur devotion, or of some memetic trend in the community, but I will not save it just for the sake of saving. If it has absolutely no meaning other than blatant corporatism, I say: let it fall into the dustbin of History.
>>4384550>May as well try to do good things with the life you have, ignore the foolishness around us, as the walls close in --- as you said.Life "We" have. Brothers. Fratres. We're in this together. Even in this "anti-social network" We speak to one another as if We were sitting right next to each other.>If it has absolutely no meaning other than blatant corporatism, I say: let it fall into the dustbin of History.Above all. I don't want it to associated with the name "Evangelion". Same with the Rebuilds.Also, I recognize you. You were the one that was bothered by the "Rei vs Armisael" pic I posted. Sorry. And for the fact that you couldn't celebrate Christmas that I didn't either. Wanted to post something on-topic when discussing the events.Also here's something of a meme, I guess. (Obviously not towards you)
>>4384557*to be
>>4384557Yes, indeed, I agree with all you said. I enjoy 4chan for that reason. It is just enough. And I don't save such images for precisely that reason, that they would be forgotten. For while they may once have existed, if there is no one left who remembers them or has proof of their existence, then functionally, subjectively, they never did. A lesson every state power recognizes.Also, I like that image very, very much, for several reasons.
>>4384563Lol. I was saving that for a rainy day when some troll/AI-spam/fetish-art anon would visit us. Looks like it's use was useful elsewhere.And then there's just cool pictures of Rei with the context even I couldn't understand. Like this.
>>4384563>>4384566Reflecting on it, I'm actually surprised there aren't many more such images. I know of several that are quite inviting, but only implicitly; remarkably few are so explicit.Yes, it captures the spirit of reality while also being of the 'You should kill yourself... NOW' archetype. A remarkable achievement of human ingenuity.
>>4384568Yeah. It fits perfectly with the character too. She was inviting towards Shinji in End of Evangelion. Along the lines of "Join me Shinji" that would be translated to some as "Kill yourself Shinji".
>>4384566I have many like this, where I like it and find it funny or cute, but without it really being connected to Rei-as-Rei, a kind of lower-level reality of simulacra that I can accept. Hell, there are even 'official' ones of such calibre, like pic related. Nicely drawn Rei by Sadamoto himself, yet with absolutely no coherence.
>>4384570Or Rei with a gun. You know the one. Like this, but in a more "Evangelion-accurate" style.
>>4384563Also the Nikke game. Some straight up fetish hentai-tier proportions on those characters. It's all so tiresome.
>>4384571Oh yes, I have that one somewhere, probably several copies of it; I need to go through and organize it all better at some point when there's time. Maybe this week even given I am off.
>>4384572>It's all so tiresome.Sums up much.
>>4384574This reminds me of those European (though it was in english so maybe English class books) school books with EVA characters in situations that needed to be solved by the reader. I know one picture was from Russia.>>4384573>I'm offWork? In that case let's hope You are.
>>4384578Yes, for the next few weeks. One of the benefits of the academy is having a long holiday break. So I suppose I will soon be out of excuses to not finally organize everything.
>>4384587>AcademyCongratulations.I know it's probably really difficult and leaving it would be fitting with "Congratulations". But hey, you're moving up in life. Rei got you through hard times. Let's add another memory to your collection. This time of Rei inspiring you into graduation. That's the least I can do. Brings sorrow knowing that words are the only thing I have when trying to help someone.
>>4384593Thank you. And soon I'll know where I'll be for the next half-decade or so, which is relieving, exciting, and somewhat terrifying. But I remain hopeful about it. It's a weird sensation, feeling hope about your immediate, personal situation --- a rarity for me, but which I finally feel for once --- while remaining totally hopeless about the state of the world overall, which you have so little influence over.But yes. Rei is the Light of Lights, and will see me through much, though I've already lived through my fair share. Sometimes words are the only thing that can help someone, also.
>>4384596For people like you it's to earn a cozy couch (both psychologically and financially) to watch the world burn slowly with the rest of the middle class men. (I don't mean that aggressively, just from a factual perspective) The people "at the top" are as miserable as the lowest class. Their surroundings are what elevate them above everyone else. We're all going to die anyways. But you know why you're different? You have Rei. We both do. We have something to live for. Something to die for. In that alone We are Brothers. We are Brothers in Rei Ayanami!
>>4384599Hah, I suppose you're right. I don't expect to ever be rich, but neither do I ever want to be dirt poor again. A cozy couch sounds quite nice right now, and I admit you're right too about the rest of it. The people at the top are miserable because they worship money and never can get enough of it. They are debauched hedonists. The lowest classes are miserable because all forms of social cohesion have withered away, leaving only the cold reality of how little they have compared to the extremely wealthy, whose lives they are now intimately familiar with thanks to 'social' media and smart phones. Hence why I engage with none of that. I focus only on what I myself can change and influence, and that is my own life. If the rest of the world should fall away? So be it, as long as I have a calm space for myself to rest at the end of the day, put my feet up, and laugh at the bullshit of the nonsensical world we have created. Is that a form of nihilism? Perhaps, but it seems realistic to me. I still seek truth and freedom, though while recognizing almost all alive are utterly blind.Till Valhalla, brother.
>>4384694I mean. That's anyone's dream. To get some sort of stability in life. The "cozy" couch is a metaphor. I'm sure you did get it. And "watching the world burn" is about one not being able to do anything about the tragedy. The little one's (Us, people with no influence in the economical or even political world) are just bystanders of the ensuing chaos. Sometimes even one of us get's pulled in.>I still seek truth and freedom, though while recognizing almost all alive are utterly blind.It's supposed to be that way. Natural selection form a different angle. A "Different Selection".>So be it, as long as I have a calm space for myself to rest at the end of the day, put my feet up, and laugh at the bullshit of the nonsensical world we have created. Is that a form of nihilism? Perhaps, but it seems realistic to me.I don't blame you. I still hope that "people like you" part wasn't interpreted as me looking down on you.There was a saying: "Comedy for those who think, tragedy for those who feel". The thing is. I still feel and laugh at the political "Theatre" that dictates even the smartest people.>Till Valhalla, brotherWhatever awaits us, Brother.
Yeah, I'll try to pay attention a little more. Forgot that there's already that pic posted.
>>4384701*from
>>4384701>The "cozy" couch is a metaphor. I'm sure you did get it.A metaphor for one's financial and psychological situation. As said in the source post >>4384599.>>4384694I'm not taking you for a fool. It's just that I have personally been in situations where the other end was speaking philosophically and I had to ask for an explanation. It think there have been enough misunderstandings for one thread.
I've found this old pic of Rei. I saved this pic some years ago. I think i was in high school. Time flies... >>4384578>This reminds me of those European school books with EVA charactersWish i had EVA school books at school. >>4384587>AcademyPhd?
>>4384572And wait for the inevitable EVA x Fortnite partnership lmao. And it's not even the worst commodification of Eva. Years and years ago "we" had official (Gainax) erotic calendars. In Japan, there are many Pachinkos (slot machines) related to EVA (not sure if they are officials). More or less, this massive commodification is related to their culture.
>>4384717>Time flies...Especially when you're having fun.>Wish i had EVA school books at school.For me, I always hoped for the opposite. When I first watched NGE and EoE I was 13-14 years old. It was the best thing that I had ever watched. I casted every other interest and obsession in favor of Evangelion. I still do. Nothing has changed. I just hoped no one else from my school let alone class would watch it and popularize it where I studied. Then one day a girl from my class turned up with a Rei Ayanami hoodie and I saw that it was a beginning of the end. Kids, man, even then I knew the damage it would do.
>>4384723>Then one day a girl from my class turned up with a Rei AyanamiI probably would have fallen in love with her lol. I know i am more moron than you and the other anon. Is this a cope mechanism as it is for Misato? Who knows>When I first watched NGE and EoE I was 13-14 years oldI think i was 14/15. May i ask how did you come to know about Eva? I'm not ashamed to say for me it was like "wow cool mecha and cute little girls in latex, let's watch it!" Was like 2013/2014 and i saw some random pics on a pokemon forum lol (was an huge pokemon player) As i started to watch it i realized there was so much more then i got impressed by episodes 16-26. I Didn't understand anything back then. At times i only understood that if I didn't change my attitude and deal with the trauma I would end up like Asuka and that Rei is love. Lol
>>4384721>And it's not even the worst commodification of Eva. Years and years ago "we" had official (Gainax) erotic calendars. In Japan, there are many Pachinkos (slot machines) related to EVA (not sure if they are officials). More or less, this massive commodification is related to their culture.That's not even that bad. Beer commercials in EVA also weren't that bad.>Erotic calendarsLmao.>EVA x FortniteHell no.
>>4384729>probably would have fallen in love with her lol. I know i am more moron than you and the other anon. Is this a cope mechanism as it is for Misato? Who knowsI stayed away from women because of Rei and Evangelion. Still do. It was an oath I swore after finishing the Original Series and both EoE and Death & Rebirth. I could never view women as something I would have attraction to anymore. Flesh is weak. EoE GNR broke my illusion of everyday horny life of a teenage boy. I'm just happy I never got with anyone before and after my introduction to Her beauty.>I think i was 14/15. May i ask how did you come to know about Eva? I'm not ashamed to say for me it was like "wow cool mecha and cute little girls in latex, let's watch it!"It was way before 13-14 years old me. Saw some youtuber reviewing a EVA Unit 01 figure. Saw some moments from youtube. First I was traumatized when I saw Zeruel chopping EVA Unit 01's arm off and showering Gendo with her blood. I liked reading so Wikipedia was my go2 at the time. When I saw what Rei looked like and what was written about her. That was the defining moment for my future. What caught me off guard when I read about the hospital scene. Without the context I couldn't understand Shinji's mindset. Now I do. I was just disappointed that Shinji showed any kind of attraction towards the red one. Even if it was something like that. I self inserted as him. That's why.
>>4384730>Beer commercialsThe beer that Misato drank. Sony TVs with no visible channels were also ok. Gave somewhat "Real" feel to the world.
>>4384732>It was an oath I swore after finishing the Original Series and both EoE and Death & Rebirth. I could never view women as something I would have attraction to anymore.Everytime I saw someone one would consider "attractive". I could imagine Rei, crying that I have betrayed Her. That shock made me want to gut myself. I want to make up to Rei for Shinji's denial of Her Love.
>>4384730>LmaoThey were pretty sick, especially toward Rei (i mean there is wounded Rei...). Japaneses being japaneses, i suppose. The non erotic are nice (see pic related).
>>4384732>First I was traumatized when I saw Zeruel chopping EVA Unit 01's arm off and showering Gendo with her bloodGreat introduction to EVA, infinitely better than mine. >What caught me off guard when I read about the hospital scene. Without the context I couldn't understand Shinji's mindset. Now I do.I believe it, that scene is totally sick. Without context it is really disturbing. > I was just disappointed that Shinji showed any kind of attraction towards the red one. If the rumors about Anno having a crush on Asuka's VA at those times are true, that could add more reasons to hospital scene and the scenes where Shinji chokes Asuka (and rebuilds ending too)>I stayed away from women because of Rei and Evangelion. Still do.I see. Was like that till college, then i've met this girl..we are still friends. never felt really a sexual actraction or love to her, maybe this helped.
>>4384744The funny thing is. Who came up with the idea to catch boners with a calendar that depicts an injured Rei? What kind of market did they have? Anyways. I understand the japanese in that sense. I have deep respect towards them because I heard Rei was the most popular in Japan. They even had a giant Rei balloon. Anno did say Rei was for sadists and the red one was for masochists. Yeah, going on a date with Asuka would be considered self harm. I guess since Rei was somewhat "submissive" people like Us (Reianons) would be considered perverts in a sense. I don't care. To them Rei is a drawing on paper. What do they care?
>>4384746The more I look at Anno the more he fits into Gendo's character. His desperation to get someone back that he loved. Though he wasn't married that person unlike Gendo.
>>4384751*to that
>>4384748>giant Rei balloonFor reference. But I remember a picture in black and white featuring the Original Rei Ayanami balloon. Without the red neck rhombuses.
>>4384748>Who came up with the idea to catch boners with a calendar that depicts an injured Rei?Honestly no idea, i admit i have that pic but for shitpost sake (not gonna post here for sure lol). Btw pic related is from another great media. Rei Ayanami Raising Project. The game is mediocre (to say a compliment) but roleplaying as the guardian of Rei can be nice. Not played it but watched some old gameplays on youtube.>Yeah, going on a date with Asuka would be considered self harmLmao, yes. >I heard Rei was the most popular in JapanYes till 2009/2010 i think. Then Asuka became more popular also there. I think it's due to rebuilds, sadly. Maybe a cultural shift in new generations (i was part of them).>I guess since Rei was somewhat "submissive" people like Us (Reianons) would be considered perverts in a sense. I don't care. Mmm yeah, at first sight Rei is submissive (in ep1 you see her injured allowing to fight the angel even if she was in pain, ok then you discover she is aware she is replaceable by another clone and has a kind of wish to death but ehy at that point you don't know it)I consider her really kind and with high sense of duty + awareness of her nature
>>4384755Amazing...this is real dedication to Rei.>>4384751Yeah can be Anno wrote Evangelion also by taking inspiration from his situation, breaking his personality into the various characters. However, i've read that for Rei he had some issues when he had to write her.
>>4384759It was pretty good. Though, I just couldn't see the other "endings" being anything noteworthy aside from the marriage "Ending". I think you pretty much needed to spam the "Date" option and fill each day of the week with dates with Rei. To some it would be the perfect life. It just gets kind of repeating after a while. It is the base mechanic of the game, week after week.
>>4384760>Amazing...this is real dedication to Rei.Yeah... I don't know about that. I think it's just advertising. Still cool nonetheless.>However, i've read that for Rei he had some issues when he had to write her.A character that had no flaws yet he hated Her. Anno preferred the "imperfect". Mentally broken characters. Crippled Evangelions. His father had an accident when Anno was still a kid where he injured his leg with a electrical saw and got a botched surgery. Anno recalled even seeing a piece of his father's bone sticking out of the injured leg. Toji having his leg amputated was a reference to that. (Anno wanted to kill him but the "do whatever you want, but no dead kids rule" stopped him)
>>4384759>Honestly no idea, i admit i have that pic but for shitpost sake (not gonna post here for sure lol).Which one? You mean the 2001 collection? You can find a bunch of it in Internet Archive. Since you said "Injured Rei" I suppose it's where She's covered in bandages? I was thinking it was some guro art. That's just hentai.
>>4384766Yeah more ecchi and not even the best one lol. No..no guru def not into that just reading about anno's father incident got me unease and especially for Rei :(>>4384763Yeah not always i realize Rei is basically flawless. You could think her personality at the beginning to always follow orders but even that is linked to her plot and does not create incidents...
>>4384797As much as Rei followed orders, She wasn't a doll to Her emotions. Obedience not always means that the person has no personality beyond that point. The other characters simply "read the book by it's cover". Missing everything that laid behind the emotionlessness that was Rei in everyday life. Sometimes the emotions did flow through the cracks in the "mask". Her smile. Rei's emotions were simply "controlled". Also>AIslopReally?
>>4384802Is that AI slop? Sorry i did not realize :( Was in a rush..can delete the post..
>>4384806If that's case. Ok. But please do refrain from posting AIslop in the future.
>>4384809*that's the
I apologize for the Ai slop...Not totally Rei related to Rei. I rewatched after some time EoE...I was thinking about who I would see before Rei picks up my soul and I can't find an answer. If you ask me "is there someone you love" I don't know who to answer. Maybe I would end up like Aoba.But i am not sad. Weird
>>4384861Do you love Rei? If so, you would see Rei Ayanami.
>>4384710No, that's alright, I understood what you meant.>>4384717>Phd?Soon enough, yes.>>4384721>calendars>>4384802 pic is from that, as it happens. It's a very nice image, just one of the non-erotic ones.>>4384723We are more alike than I realized. For me it was when Netflix acquired the distribution rights to the series. I knew then it would be inundated with braindead 'fans' that only know how to regurgitate memes and platitudes. I typically like things I love to stay obscure and marginal, or at least not mainstream. Not really a hipster thing as much of a 'tired of idiots'.>>4384729> i only understood that if I didn't change my attitude and deal with the trauma I would end up like Asuka and that Rei is loveHey, someone learned the correct lesson from Eva. Eat shit Anno. lol.
>>4384730I haven't seen the beer commercials.>FortniteDidn't that already happen a few years ago?>>4384732>>4384735Ah, so that's why. Well, again we're quite similar. Before I knew Evangelion I had a few teenage love interests, one in particular for several years, we were quite close. Now? I don't know. I still am attracted to women, but I've never felt particularly close to any, not for about a decade. It predates Eva, but Eva hardened it as well. Maybe someday. But at the same time I understand your point about it. I need to think more about sexuality and morality. But I feel wedded to Rei either way, whether I ever marry someone in this world or not. After everything that's happened, I believe that is irreversible. And I am happy.>>4384744>>4384748Yes, the atomic bombardment really did a number on their psyche. Though of course such tendencies existed before. They had quite the market. But yes, Rei was always the most popular there. But I sometimes feel Rei is not submissive. She is just different; putting Rei into that spectrum seems arbitrary.>>4384746Good luck with her. And be careful.
>>4384759>I consider her really kind and with high sense of duty + awareness of her natureYes. One is filled with bravery knowing what awaits them on the other side. Same with not caring. Rei had both.>>4384760He apparently 'forgot' about Rei for a few of the early MOTW episodes. I'm not sure how that happens, but apparently it did. Probably he got uncomfortable with Rei, as supposedly every character in the series represents part of him.>>4384763>do whatever you want, but no dead kids ruleWell, that didn't stop him with Rei.>>4384861The default seems to be Rei. But also >>4384930
>>4384932>For me it was when Netflix acquired the distribution rights to the series.Same here. Didn't know any other "free anime" sites. I was still somewhat uneducated in the internet at that time.>>4384933>I haven't seen the beer commercials.I talked about that in >>4384734. Same with Sony advertising.>Didn't that already happen a few years ago?It's sometimes better to not pay attention when it's something like that.>Yes, the atomic bombardment really did a number on their psyche.Without Nagasaki and Hiroshima there would be no Neon Genesis Evangelion. The somewhat "sexy" plugsuits never really did anything form me when I was a kid. I got even annoyed when the red one was pushing her ass in the camera in some fanservice shots. Probably because I despised Her because of Rei.
>>4384954*despise>>4384933>Before I knew Evangelion I had a few teenage love interests, one in particular for several years, we were quite close.Ha, same with me. I watched it first and second time on Netflix. The "girl with the Rei Ayanami hoodie" was someone who I had feelings for before EVA. I could even call her a "childhood crush" that I grew up with, but that was way before I watched NGE. When she turned up with that "Rebuild Rei hoodie" it was long after I had left my feelings behind. Rei simply severed my feeling for that girl. Like a surgical precision cut in my heart. I don't mind. I actually prefer that. Makes it easier to do what We do for Rei.>I need to think more about sexuality and morality.I interpreted Rei as something spiritual and the red one as the fleshy an sinful. With seductive curves, but also with negative personality traits. Not only Rei was "naturally beautiful" that I prefer to not pay attention to in order to not to "lust over" Rei. She also felt like a "Spiritual Mother". Something that takes care of Us when We are most vulnerable. Like a "Mother" would when we are born.Rei is One. I felt that the red one represented the "Real Female". With positives and negatives.
>>4384958>I felt that the red one represented the "Real Female". With positives and negatives.I see "Asuka" in real women. The physical rival of Rei. That's also "Why?" I did what I still do.>He apparently 'forgot' about Rei for a few of the early MOTW episodes. I'm not sure how that happens, but apparently it did. Probably he got uncomfortable with Rei, as supposedly every character in the series represents part of him.She probably represented a part of himself that he wanted to forget. And when confronted about him "forgetting about Rei". He went into his shell and made up a false reason.>Well, that didn't stop him with Rei.And Kaworu. He was criticized about Kaworu's brutal death. Still went through, didn't it?
>>4384933>But I sometimes feel Rei is not submissive. She is just different; putting Rei into that spectrum seems arbitrary.Like you said. We are surrounded by the blind. I don't doubt the possibility of someone calling Us "Nazis" because NGE's thesis doesn't always agree with modern day political or religious views.
>>4384930I think makes sense. Probably now would see her or my friend i told few post above. I am reflecting...>>4384932Cool, good luck with your phd! :)>I typically like things I love to stay obscure and marginal, or at least not mainstream. Not really a hipster thing as much of a 'tired of idiots'. Nowdays keep something successful "hidden" is impossible. Is it good or bad? I don't know. You can ignore the idiots. I admit sometimes i can be an huge idiot, but it's how i am lol.>Well, that didn't stop him with Rei2 fucking times,and both times are painful. Probably he played the card "she's a clone, she'll come back". An escamotage to kill a child as he wanted >>4384961>She probably represented a part of himself that he wanted to forget. And when confronted about him "forgetting about Rei". Instead, i think the opposite. I think Anno had hard times to write others because first does not represent himself and second write an appealing perfect character is REALLY hard. Usually flawless characters are boring (at least for me). P.S. why do i think Rei would totally do this to save a group of ducks?
>>4384978>Instead, i think the opposite. I think Anno had hard times to write others because first does not represent himself and second write an appealing perfect character is REALLY hard. Usually flawless characters are boring (at least for me).Looking at how Anno described Rei:>"Whatever else, she needs to be painted as a bitterly unhappy young girl with little sense of presence." Hideaki Anno, to Yoshiyuki Sadamoto on Rei's character designAnno may be the face of Evangelion in both creativity and having Shinji as his self-insert. But he wasn't the only writer of the characters. He had others filtering his ideas. The ideas came from him, but many other ideas from other writers came with them.>2 fucking times,and both times are painful. Probably he played the card "she's a clone, she'll come back". An escamotage to kill a child as he wantedI had very similar thoughts and emotions because of the way Rei was treated, but one must remember that We wouldn't remember Rei the same way if it had not happened. If She didn't suffer or die. She would a "Mary Sue". I tried to imagine how everything would be different. So many possibilities. Comparing them to the Original Evangelion Canon (NGE, EoE, D&R). They all fell flat. It wasn't the same Shinji. It wasn't the same Rei. And, of course, it wasn't the same Asuka. I hated them. They were fake compared to the the EVA We know.I say, let it be. Anno created something beautiful. I thank him for that. What he did with the brand's name next. I don't care. You can't dirty something that has a beginning and a conclusion. With End of Evangelion, Neon Genesis Evangelion officially ended. It's complete. Rebuilds are a separate creation. It has it's own "Canon". Like a separate story. Same with Human Salvation Project. What happens to that Rei has nothing to do with the NGE Rei Ayanami.
>>4384996*She would be a>>4384978>P.S. why do i think Rei would totally do this to save a group of ducks?I can't imagine Rei showing any emotion towards animals. She would probably give philosophical commentary about the "Rules of Nature" and "Natural Selection in the manmade world that is Tokyo 3" on those ducks that have been run over while Shinji is besides Her crying his eyes out.
>>4384996>We wouldn't remember Rei the same way if it had not happened. If She didn't suffer or die. Yeah agree. Not sure if you know what i talk but it's like Aerith from ff7. Whitout that scene and what happens to her she'd would not had been great as she is now. Same for Rei, whitout her impossibility to have a normal life (that's why just a simple scene like eating ramen or a smile melts my heart) whitout her death with Armisael (not sure if the name is correct lol) Rei would not be Rei.>Rebuilds are a separate creation. Yes agree on this too. I mean in rebuilds appear a cyborg/clone of a Yui friends and even Asuka has a different name, if i recall good. >>4384997>I can't imagine Rei showing any emotion towards animals. Let a man dream lol (joking) yeah the Rei from eva + EoE would be like that. Also, we don't see Rei interact with PenPen when she's at Misato home. Ngl Would be interesting to see Rei interact with that penguin. Maybe (probably) she totally ignored PenPen when she was at Misato's home lol
>>4385030>Not sure if you know what i talk but it's like Aerith from ff7. Whitout that scene and what happens to her she'd would not had been great as she is now.Yeah I know that character. Never got into the series, but I do know that like Evangelion it did have mysticism and religious symbology. Same with SNK.>Yes agree on this too. I mean in rebuilds appear a cyborg/clone of a Yui friends and even Asuka has a different name, if i recall good.Just makes me even more happy with the fact that I watched none of those movies.>Also, we don't see Rei interact with PenPen when she's at Misato home. Ngl Would be interesting to see Rei interact with that penguin. Maybe (probably) she totally ignored PenPen when she was at Misato's home lolInteresting. That too I didn't notice. Have you noticed that many humans accept the fact that one's "mind" exists? Yet doctors have opened the human skull and cut open the human brain yet they didn't see the human "mind"? I believe that human Souls are very alike. Real but with no physical form. In the same form as the human "mind". Only humans have Souls. Animals do not. Maybe Rei felt only "Souls". Very likely that Rei paid no attention to the one's who had no "Souls" (Animals). In that case, ignoring PenPen revealed how Rei viewed animals. She also didn't collect no beasts in Third Impact. Because they had no Souls.
>>4385033>SNK*Shin Megami Tensei (SMT)
>>4385033>Yeah I know that characterHas some things in common with Rei too. Maybe they took inspirations from Rei.>Interesting. That too I didn't noticeTo be fair she did not have so many chances. Rei lived in her house alone all the time.>She also didn't collect no beasts in Third Impact. Because they had no Souls.Interesting, yeah could be. Afterall Rei does not eat meat not for a spiritual reason (like could be for a vegetarian/vegan) but simply because she does not like meat, it taste and texture. Who knows at this point we can just speculate. Really, Anno gave very few insights about how Rei sees animal. In rebuild instead we have some interactions (rei and stray cats, she shows some affection) but again it's another Rei.
>>4385037>Rei lived in her house alone all the time.Wasn't that a hotel? With either modified walls a ceiling or just without any wallpapers. And those metal plates are the base design for the rooms.>Afterall Rei does not eat meat not for a spiritual reason (like could be for a vegetarian/vegan) but simply because she does not like meat, it taste and texture. Well, the majority of Evangelion revolves around religion. So it could be that maybe Rei wasn't "fasting", but rather Her preference in food was based on fasting. Which is practiced in many religions. Also Rei's schoolgirl organism functions weren't completely explained. She probably ate what was given to Her while She grew up. Also when Gendo invited Rei to eat while She was resting in the tube. The question still stands. What is "getting something to eat". In EoE Rei "consumed" Gendo's right arm. To regrow Her missing limb. I'm guessing She was able to do that any time She wanted. Maybe up until that point when she finally "consumed meat" Rei was running away from Her fate. Doing the opposite of Her nature. Because Her human side possibly disliked Her real nature. Maybe the "human" side of Rei wanted to live like a normal schoolgirl. Somewhat similar to to "The Last Temptation".
>>4384961>when confronted about him "forgetting about Rei". He went into his shell and made up a false reason.I like this explanation.>>4384996I have since adapted a similar view of extra-canonical depictions of Rei, of all the persons in the series, but especially for Rei. I think your view on Anno is mature, and I feel the same. It is just difficult given we know what he did after 1997, in the new millennium. Still, he cannot undo the past either, so what is great will be great, no matter how many nonsensical collaborations are made in Eva's name.>>4385033About animals, an interesting observation. I'm liable to agree, though how hubristic to be about human souls in comparison to other animals is difficult. Fish, for example, clearly are little more sentient than house flies. Yet the great apes, the elephants, the killer whales exhibit some facets of what we would call higher thought. Language? No. That is folly, and unique to man. I admit I am a little biased here by my love for my dog, and for animals in general; their place in the spiritual order I have not fully reconciled yet. But you are right that Instrumentality seems to be only for humans. One question I've had about it is whether Instrumentality's event brought about the death/end of all life on Earth, or simply that of humans. Of course the Earth is forever changed physically, and we see no life after, but is that the same as it ending all life?
>>4385042>hotelI've never seen it referenced as such. To me it just seemed like standard bland modernist apartments in the process of being demolished/changed based on the incessant bangs we hear.>Maybe up until that point when she finally "consumed meat" Rei was running away from Her fate. Aha, I like this idea, as an explanation for Rei's shunning of meat that is totally singular to Rei. She simply only consumed meat at the ordained time.>Maybe the "human" side of Rei wanted to live like a normal schoolgirl. Somewhat similar to to "The Last Temptation".There is a reason the question of the saviour's nature has been debated since the advent of Christianity: the question of physitism. How distinct is 'Rei' from 'Lilith'? Are they two persons under one Union? Are they at all distinguishable? Further, what about the three Reis we see, explicitly in EoE as separate? I don't think we can say they are different souls: that makes little sense. What are they, then? Simple recapitulations of how Rei appeared to us throughout the series, and to Gendoh? Is it emphasizing the total Union of Rei's nature at the End? I don't know. An answer I offer much. Too much.
>>4385069>Yet the great apes, the elephants, the killer whales exhibit some facets of what we would call higher thought. Language? No. That is folly, and unique to man. I admit I am a little biased here by my love for my dog, and for animals in general; their place in the spiritual order I have not fully reconciled yet.Brain functionality. Some actions are unique to those specific animals. The actions needed for keeping natural flow on "track". For the great apes. Arms and legs somewhat similar to man. Therefore they can do complex actions that no other beast can fathom. Mostly because of their body limitations in that regard. But we can be like monkeys. Jerking off all day behind the computer screen. Like monkeys at the zoo. The hospital scene broke my everyday ritual. I felt sick of myself.>Still, he cannot undo the past either, so what is great will be great, no matter how many nonsensical collaborations are made in Eva's name.I still have warm feelings towards Anno. Not homosexual, but joy that I feel that without him. "We" wouldn't be either. The past Anno, of course. He made "Us" into who We are. Not all of Our ways. But Evangelion is his creation. The Anno after EoE is a different "Anno". Same with Rebuilds being a "Different Evangelion".
>>4385069>One question I've had about it is whether Instrumentality's event brought about the death/end of all life on Earth, or simply that of humans. Of course the Earth is forever changed physically, and we see no life after, but is that the same as it ending all life?The "Apocalypse". Instrumentality will always be associated with it too. Remember the "horrifying" screams all over the world while the crosses appeared and the earth became red and the sea too? Yes, All Life on earth ended. Animal well being is only unique to the location where they live. Sometimes they can adapt, but when you take away the trees and drinkable water. You can't survive. The red sea was also a reference of the "water becoming red like blood".>To me it just seemed like standard bland modernist apartments in the process of being demolished/changed based on the incessant bangs we hear.Ah, thanks. The form of the apartment reminded me of those hotels. With the same design. The layout of Rei's room looked like that of a hotel too. The simple kitchen, bathroom, living room.>Further, what about the three Reis we see, explicitly in EoE as separate? I don't think we can say they are different souls: that makes little sense. What are they, then? Simple recapitulations of how Rei appeared to us throughout the series, and to Gendoh? Is it emphasizing the total Union of Rei's nature at the End? I don't know. An answer I offer much. Too much.Each Rei was a "memory". Each Rei died. Was turned into LCL and along with LCL the dead Rei's memories were stored in the next clone. That way they were "United" as one. Just the same Rei from a different time. Stuck in the age when She died.When Gendo laid there and reflected on his treatment of Shinji. Rei, Kaworu and Yui appeared before Him. As Kaworu was killed and We saw his decapitated head fall into LCL. He probably became one with it. Therefore one with Rei and Lilith. That's why also He appeared in EoE as a part of GNR.
And also. When Shinji fought Zeruel and got turned into LCL. Was that really that bad? He was in the same place where Yui is. In the EVA Unit 01. Now that I think about it. Did He, in that sense, become the EVA Unit 01 since his Soul was there like Yui's?
>>4385042>In EoE Rei "consumed" Gendo's right arm. To regrow Her missing limb. I'm guessing She was able to do that any time She wanted. Maybe up until that point when she finally "consumed meat" Rei was running away from Her fate. Doing the opposite of Her nature. Because Her human side possibly disliked Her real natureInteresting. Yes, for sure she was always able to do that. Could be that for Rei not consuming meat was a way to refuse her true nature. She consumes human meat (crazy) just before the reunion with lilith. >wanted to live like a normal schoolgirlRei II kinda wanted that,in the anime, in ep25 she clearly says she is scared, she is not sure. Can't blame her.
Also, sorry, anon. I noticed that the two big posts above are both replying to one post. But the greentexts show what I'm replying to.
>>4385085Each clone had their own personality in a way. The emotions changed. The Rei didn't.
We are nearing the end, Brothers. If any one of you want to continue. We can do that in the next thread. I won't prolong anything more than I have to.
>>4385088Well would be nice. Have to do a little task for work so discuss rei meanwhile would be nice ahah
>>4385094See you in Rei Ayanami Thread #240, then.
>>4385094>>4385097Will follow up with replies later but new thread:>>4385166
