Thread for discussing coffee and coffee related topics.All you need/poorfag cope editionIf you're new and confused start here, then ask a few questions: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLzIf you're old and confused is it worth it?Previous thread:>>20962880
>>20970694Excellent choice sir. Coffee doesn't get much better than that.
>>20970688What are the cheapest decent analog machines for a poor retard like myself?
>>20970688>related*adjacent
>>20970709flair neo flexhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pj5OcBgMb0its annoying to use but it makes good espresso and is cheap.
>>20970712>*adjacentits an infusion of topics really.
>JUST GET ANY SCALE BROyeah no get the Chud approved scale
>>20970738bird anoni heard that some bird feathers aren't actually the color they appear to be, instead they just refract(relect?) light in such a way that makes it look like that color but the pigment of the feathers either is just normal dull colors or is a different color altogether.can you confirm or clarify?thanks :)
>>20970748>relectreflect*
>>20970688Are there any electric kettles with precise temperature control that can double as general induction burners? Other than the Breville ControlFreak, which is $1,300.
>>20970738bro was saying he had like 50 bucks total to spend the sneedimore blacked mirror is like 60 bux itself
>>20970778no
>>20970778Is one of those gooseneck kettles with temp control worth it bros?
>>20970778>Breville ControlFreakHow the fuck has that thing not been updated in almost 10 years and it's STILL over $1,000 new.
>>20970814yes
>>20970814Marginal improvement. Like going from a B- to a B. No chance you could tell the difference in a blind taste test.
>>20970838yeh but its more funsothat bumps it up to an A
>>20970841Can you taste "fun" in a triple blind test?
>>20970849just say you dont enjoy making coffee and move on.
>>20970849goosenecks are good cause they allow for more consistent and controlled pours. precise temp control also allows for more precision in dialing inthey're not *magically* making the coffee better cause of their shape. rather they allow the user to be more in control of what they're doing versus a regular kettle, which means better coffee more consistentlyso even if you can't taste the fun you're at least having fun
>>20970877also they look cooler than regular kettles:)
>>20970877Sounds like some shilltuber nonsense. A stagg might make your coffee 1-2% "better" than a hario air and a thermometer but you're not going to be able to taste the difference.
>>20970885a hario air achieves the exact same thing a gooseneck does: pour controlonly difference is you don't have temperature control but neither do most stove top goosenecksagain, it doesn't "make" the coffee better. it just gives you more control when brewing due to the pour stream being more controlled than a regular kettle. this control allows you to be more consistent with your brews
>>20970688Will my heart stop if I will eat whole pack of the instant coffee ~100 gramms?
>>20970927Can I buy a stepless stove?
>>20970930no, not enough caffeinetry two packets
>>20970937Isn't so much coffee wilk work as laxative?
>>20970748Yes that is correct! Not all feathers and colors do this but some special ones are. On the ruby throat, the red throat feathers will appear bright and shiny in the sun, but more of a dull dark when not in light. Picture is from a website which illustrates the effect.Fun Fact: The male birds know their feathers shine in the sun so when they're trying to impress a female (humiliation ritual) they make sure the female is between them and the sun so she sees his bright red throat.
>>20970814Yea bcuz they can hold the water temp instead of just boiling and shutting off
the patio boss checking on the coffee
>>20971032erm beansisters? they just leave it OUTSIDE???
>>20971034yes
>>20971034https://library.sweetmarias.com/glossary/patio-drying/
>>20971032>>20971071dis your farm bro?
>they sell moderately fresh (roasted 10/26) Counter Culture coffee in grocery stores now
it cameim gonna cheeeemmmmmm
>>20971179There is a coffee shop in my building that usually has very fresh CCC available.My local grocery stores are usually ~1-2 weeks older, though sometimes equivalent to the shop in my building.
>>20970814Goosenecks help a lot with pouring controlTemperature control is a very nice convenience feature bit not essential Very happy with my Brewista Artisan, but if you don't feel like spending so much money a 30€ stovetop buono and a 10€ thermometer will do the job just as well
https://perfectdailygrind.com/2024/11/why-specialty-coffee-needs-to-see-more-women-in-roasting/>According to a 2018 report from the International Coffee Organisation, women and girls carry out approximately 70% of physical labour on coffee farms worldwide
Guy with the stalling issues from a few threads ago here. Turns out the issue was in fact the Encore ESP grinder. Preparing the bed with a deeper mold and pouring very gently outwards to catch more fines did help, and so did Abaca filters but it didn't fix it.Once I bought a C40 the stalling issues completely went away and the cups taste much clearer.
>>20971354Based.
>>20971354release the bird
>>20970931Most stoves are stepless, last I checked.
>>20970958>male birds know their feathers shine>they make sure the female is between them and the sun so she sees his bright red throatIs that something they really *know*, or is that instinct?
>>20971354>the issue was in fact the Encore ESP grinderThe Baratza Encore can't even do pourover? It's $200
>>20971179>roasted 10/26>moderately freshThe Costco beans I just got yesterday were fresher than that (roasted 10/30), and I wouldn't describe them as moderately fresh.
>>20971515Sounds like you don't need a meme kettle then.
>>20970784i was the one talking about the sneedimore 078S. Where did you get that I had $50 to spend? I never said that
>>20971531Light roasts need to degas for 7-14 days after roasting.
>>20970732>infusionMore of an emulsion, really.
>>20971542Never had a problem brewing within a week of roast. Could be a skill issue.
>>20971590I can brew brown caffeinated water with the anaerobic nat burundi I roasted earlier today. Just not going to be the best they could be for several weeks.
what's everyone's favorite grinder in the $500-1000 range? looking to get one asappic kind of randomly related so people see my post
>>20971607DF83V ($800)
>>20971607Df83v, Niche Duo, Mazzer Philos, DF64. Basically anything but a eureka.
>>20971528It can make half decent cups, but the taste is a little muddy and stalling is a huge issue with naturals.Really didn't expect the grind being so bad given how much praise it receives online. At least I "only" paid 140€.
>>20971617Eureka XL is good if you want a hopper style grinder purely for espresso.
>>20971626Malk x54s are $500 shipped right now.
>>20971616>>20971617shopping for these DFxx items is weird. It's like i'm shopping on alibaba. Quality control is decent on these?DF83V does look pretty tempting
>>20971659buy from a more local reseller in your area/country if you want after market support.I think they're based in Singapore or some shit, so don't expect much from the company directly.
>>20971663Ningbo, Zhejiang Province, China
https://youtu.be/UN_cJONMvZ4?t=645:skull:nothin ever comes out as the clear better-than-the-rest thing when you're looking at a particular price range huh
i already broo’d a cup a couple of hours ago, will having another go kill me? its decaf btw
>>20971518>>20970958yeh i dont think they know.its probably just what they do now to get a mate.some evolutionary advantage that they dont know they have but in the past the ones born with this mutation that makes their neck feathers shine red in the light did the same mating dance as everyone else but the females prefered the "red" ones.so that trait moved on, and birds that didnt have that trait didnt mate as much or at all and eventually stopped being born with the "red"now the male birds still do the same dance but they are all "red"but still some males mate more. which is because not all males were dancing in the sunlight so the "red" didnt appear to the females.so as time goes on the trait of having "red" and the "memory" of dancing in the sun = more mates gets passed on.and so now we see them "showing off" their "red" in the sun and think they know what they are doing but its probably more like just genetically passed on traits and behavior.
>>20971032>>20971071uhh your raised beds bro?
>>20971231wow those filters are fucking huge
>>20971756>will having another go kill me? its decaf btwyes
>>20971706wow what a piece of shiti cant imagine anyone seeing that problem and thinking "wow looks great, gonna buy one!"
>>20971790>What $2600 grinder is "worth" it over a DF64 or DF83V or similar $500-1000 grinders?Apparently one that actually works.
Maybe I need to just wait til April for this. Is this the true way bros?
>>20971836it's bad for the price
Just got a hand grinder and I have a dumb newbie question: Any recs on how to clean it?I know water is forbidden and that I have to clean it regularly because of oil buildup, but the brushes I've been able to find apparently are all shit. Like either they fall apart too fast or the bristles break or some other problem.The other method I know of is to grind uncooked rice and then brush the rice dust out... which again requires a brush.
>>20971836At the top tier of 64mm spinners. Along with the option o p64, acaia orbit, and mazzer philos.
>>20971848>mazzer philosi've been enjoying mine for the last 2-3 weeks
what do you think is missing from a moka pot coffee compared to an espresso, especially for lattes?
>>20971869i make latte's with mokawhats the problem?
>>20971842>Any recs on how to clean it?take it apart and use a toothbrush(a new one)also you can use water, just as long as you take it apart first and make sure its ONE HUNDRED PERCENT DRY before putting it back together.but regardless, you really dont need to clean them more than like once a year.
>>20971892No problem, I just don't know how it compares to an espresso. I like lattes at the shops but I want to make it at home without the big machines so I'm looking at alternatives.I tried putting frothed milk (french press) into french press coffee and it just wasn't close.
>>20971896Oh a tooth brush. That would solve a lot of the problems I saw with people bitching about the various brushes' bristles! Thanks for hte tip.And... yeah... I'm gonna be too paranoid to use water for a while, but 100% dry is a must if only to avoid risking the beans getting wet, to say nothing of rust and mold.
Damn is my DF83 outdated already?
>>20971706Watched a minute from the timestamp. It's apparently a problem with the SSP espresso burrs and he said it isn't a problem with SSP pourover or the default burrs
>>20971919Not if you have SSP 83BP in it.
>>20971919Yes, you're fucked. You need to buy the newest fotm.
>>20971953>SSP 83BPDo you mean MP? Still using the stock burrs but looking to consoom some new coffee stuff.
>>20971910>risking the beans getting wetanon, you do rdt your beans right?
>>20971908yeh moka works.its not 1:1but it works.generally i find you have to make a bigger cup to get the same intensity but the experience is largely the sameORyou could just buy thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZMGx15QBU
>>20971963Nope. There's multipurpose, high uniformity, and lab sweet. And the harder to find 83 "Brew Purpose" burrs which are clones of the ditting 804 machined burrs.https://cmsale.com/products/grinders/ssp-burrs/ssp-83mm-mazzer-brewing-red-speed-coated-burrshttps://prima-coffee.com/equipment/ditting/275307-ditti-sp
>>20971964I haven't opened the bag yet so I've done absolutely nothing to the beans. I wanted to read up on everything before attempting my first grind and brew.I've only ever had instant at home before. Or mixing coldbrew concentrate with water/milk.
>>20971979Interesting, didn't know about those. Why are they better than the others? I'm only doing pourovers these days.
>>20971936he's not the only one I've heard mention this issue thoughi certainly am not not use pourover burrs. are the default burrs good?
>>20972000idk I don't own a DF83V
>>20971984ohhave you posted here before or was that your first post?this is what rdt ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zqp3CgcbAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLnB99VJ0HEnot necessary but improves quality of life.
>>20972006thing is it seems like it ought not happen with such a high-watt motor. It makes me think it's poorly engineeredI just want good even distribution at the grind setting, and enough granularity in that setting to be able to properly dial it in. Those are the main 2 things.Build matters too; I shouldn't have to replace it every few years. Aesthetics matter. Smaller things like retention, other features etc, do matter.hard to decide what's best for me even knowing exactly what I want, and even hard to know what's objectively best in the first two categories
>>20971995Just a different presentation. They say ssp acidity is on the sharper side while the 804/BP are a bit tamer/less harsh. People really seem to like them. I might have to borrow a set of 804s to play with. Not my quotes, just did a little digging on discord.>They are very nice. Still have good acidity, but it is a longer presentation, not as punchy as MP.>Going to try a new analogy here- the 83 Brews are like leaning back and reading a book, the 64MPs are closer to reading the Cliff Notes of the book. With both, you get the key points and story, but the Brews take their time to develop the plot, while the 64MPs hand you three or four concise bullet points.>The 83brews and the 64brews are super different tho. Vaguely and probably unhelpfully: the 83s are laid back layered and really approachable, while the 64s are these super focused super intense burrLebrew also has 83mm Lab sweet style burrs now but I haven't heard anything about them.https://lebrewtech.com/products/hyperburrs?variant=47846300746036
>>20972013Not the first time posting about coffee in general - although it has been a while - but it is my first time with grinding.>vidsAh, a light spritz of water. I'd worry about potential gunking since the grinder is a small one, but I see why you asked that.
>>20972040Thanks, I might have to grab them then. I do enjoy a longer aftertaste. The stock burrs seem not to bring out much acidity imo.
>>20972067well, which grinder is it.
>>20971098no>>20971313yup, the majority of the labor are the pickers which are mostly women. only time i saw an exception to that was in brazil since they have mechanical harvesters. i've been to a lot of labs run by women, but i don't think that counts as physical labor>>20971776raised beds aren't super common in guatemala. i've seen a few producers with them but even then they dry the majority of their coffee on patios. but here's a pic of one for you anon
>>20970738Now try 1kg of feathers
>>20972491it would weigh 500g
hmmm9:30pm after dinner coffee sounds pretty good...i bought some pecans to snack on but man they take so much chewing.maybe i should roast em in the oven or bake them into a cake or something.
Drinking my last bag of Jamaican Blue Mountain. Gonna have to drink Papau New Guinea because i can't afford the Blue Mountain lifestyle, hope PNG is as they say similar to JBM
I swear preparation styles and home roasting don't make a difference to me in terms of taste, it's the beans stupid
>>20971842I use air blower and brushes. I don’t even take it apart that often because I drink mainly light roast, seldom grind oily beans. It’s enough that I switch beans everyday and it’s taste clean
>>20972592turned into a 10:30pm coffee but thats alrightopened my bag of sumatra, smells mighty fine.
>>20972638what?
>>20972642I SAID PREPERATION STYLES AND HOME ROASTING DON'T MATTER FOR TASTE, TASTE IS DETERMINED BY AND LARGE BY THE BEANS.A MEDIUM ROAST DONE BY A PROFESSION AND A MEDIUM ROAST DONE BY A HOMEGROWER TASTE MORE OR LESS IDENTICAL
>>20972644>HOMEGROWERyou mean home roaster :)and yeah generally i would say thats true.some natural processed or fermented beans can have a hard time in smaller home roasters and dont turn out the same as professional roasters but yeh.its more about being in control and in the long run saving money.it also adds another level to the experience.what does preparation style mean tho?could you clarify that.
>>20972646Sure. French Press, ChemX, pour-overs ect they don't really affect taste and flavor profile. ChemX in particular claims to reduce acidity but I've never noticed any substantial difference. Every time I want a change it starts(and usually ends) with the beans
>>20972636based blue mountain enjoyer
>>20971781Chemex moment, idk if I'm even doing it right
>>20972650....what?>french press, v60, chemex all taste the sameare you retarded or just tongue blind.
>>20972663>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikt-X5x7yocmaybe hoffmann has a smaller chemex but your filters look different to the ones in his video.also the paper should not be sticking to the wall at the spout area. it stalls the brew.is the coffee good tho?:)
>>20972685I'll watch the Hoffman video. These are chemex branded bonded filters, idk. >is the coffee good? Why yes, it is. I'm trying this washed Ethiopian for the first time, I took that pic making coffee this morning. What strikes me is just how different these single origins actually taste, as opposed to just blending together into shitty coffee (bad drip coffee). It's nice, i like this one. It was also nice how easy it was to make. I'll buy a gooseneck soon so it's easier to pour and will of course blog about it here.
>>20972694>These are chemex branded bonded filters, idk.yeh i checked out their other filters and they have different styles for the different sized chemex' i guess.>and will of course blog about it here.i'll read it :)are you looking at any specific goosenecks at the moment?
>>20972694>will of course blog about it here.based
bros...my rok started squeaking today.i think it has sensed its going to be taken out back soon...
>>20972705it's saying sayonara
>>20972706i thought about buying special grease for it but im going to be replacing it "soon™" so idk, didnt see the point.but when it is replaced i think it would be nice to take it apart and fully clean every part and then put it back together and re grease it with some nice grease before putting on the shelf forever.like ordering a custom suit to be made for an open casket funeral.
>>20972698>are you looking at any specific goosenecks at the moment?I usually get Amazon gift cards for Christmas because my relatives never know what to get me, even as an adult where I just ask for socks, so I'm considering buying one of those nice fellow goosenecks, with the LCDs that will start boiling at a certain time in the morning, etc. The reason I'm considering such an expensive kettle first is because I'm a LITERAL slave in my household, and if I bring a new kettle in my wife will expect me to replace the old kettle so we don't have 10 billion kitchen appliances crowding our house. So she could use that for tea and coffee and it's convenient and she won't give me shit.
>>20972718>even as an adult where I just ask for socksman i know its cliche but as i get older the more i appreciate some good socks.summer sockswinter sockspadded sockslong socksshort socksand getting them in the right size can be hard, well for me at least.>I'm a LITERAL slave in my householdi feel that.take a look at the brewista artisan.i dont think you can set it to boil at a certain time but its very nice(it has its quirks but i love mine)
>>20972731Same, I've got a ton of different socks, I usually just ask for black short socks. I just eat threw those for some reason. >brewista artisan I'll look into that as well, it's a tad cheaper so that's a +.
>>20972636So Papau New Guinea is like Jamaican Blue Mountain?
>>20972752never had blue mountain but the png i had was real smooth
>>20972752It's literally the same trees(if you get it from Eastern Highlands) as Blue Mountain Jamaica, just imported in the 1930s
Hello frensWhat's the best Kenyan/Ethiopian coffee I can buy in the UK?
>>20972779>its the same seeds therefore it tastes the sameholy fucking retard.
>>20972785Kianderi AA, you can buy from Horsham's. But can't you just get coffee imported from Amazon for pennies? In that case I'd get 100% Kenya Kamwangi AA Kirinyaga Coffee
>>20972779Terroir matters
>>20972792But it DO taste the same THOUGH. It's not like they're grafts it's from the same family and harvested at the same altitude
>>20972796different soil and climate tho
>>20972794>Kianderi AASold out broski>But can't you just get coffee imported from Amazon for pennies?Any time I've bought coffee on Amazon it's been overpriced and stale, so I try to stick to smaller distributors.
>>20972803But the question was "Does PNG taste like JBM" and the answer YES it is the MOST similiar coffee on the market to JBMPlus it's twenty bucks a lb compared to forty bucks a lb for JBM
>>20972807Overrated. It costs as much(sometimes more) than JBM but just isn't as good. And I have family in Hawaii so I've gotten it straight from the source, it always tastes a bit too burnt for coffee that's 40 bucks a lb
>>20972820You sure you had Kona and not just a blend?
>>20972811hmmmmmmm...yeah... ok.
>>20972825Yes I'm sure you fucking twat the beans at the plantation were right fucking there. Like JBM Kona's hyped up by the Japanese but unlike JBM it doesn't match the hype. Not as smooth, not as rich, but more pricey.
>>20972820Autist here, ashully JBM is more expensive (when you buy directly from roasters). If you buy from distributers like Amazon it's cheaper because Kona exploits its brand name
>>20972685>>20972694what the fuck yeah why are my filters square and not circular lmao wtf chemex
>>20972927their big filters are square.which is weird, i dont know why they dont just make a bigger version of their smaller circular filters.
>>20972927You should be asking why half of the filter is 3 layers thick.
>>20972954because it was the style at the time
>out of gasHow do I make decent coffee with just a pot of boiling water? I probably have some paper filters somewhere
>>20973027You can use paper towels as a makeshift filter in a pinch
>>20972680it's hot water on coffee grounds
>>20973027For me, I usually use 1 to 1.5 tablespoons of goffee crounds for every cup of water.>boil desired amount of water>when it's simmering, remove from heat>add grounds, stir>place lid on pot (optional)>let steep 5-10 minutes>if no filter, slowly pour in a splash of cool water (idk, like 2 tablespoons at most?) around the edge of the pot you'll be serving from to settle some of the grounds>gently pour the coffee into a measuring cup (i think they refer to this as decanting) to avoid agitating the grounds, and then pour that into your mug of choice>if you have a filter, just slap it in a funnel and pour your pot goffee through that into a liquid measuring cup to serve from
>>20973027>with just a pot of boiling water
>>20973210but you need 10 grand worth of equipment to do it right anonthen you can boil the grounds in the pot properly
>>20972807>Coffee Good but overhyped, the price doesn't match its quality.>childrenOnly if had with a loyal Qt who doesn't mind my coffee habits and handholding sex in the missionary position.
>>20973210is it?
>>20970958> male birds know their feathers shine in the sun so when they're trying to impress a female (humiliation ritual) Beta male birds. 90% of male birds are beta birds.
ahhhhot water infused with coffee groundsthats the stuff.
and now we wait
>>20973740Based.
>>20973740I can't fathom waiting that long personally.I ended up with a Mazzer Philos, blind burrs weren't that big a deal for me.
>>20973771well it's not like I don't have a grinder at all. Just been several years and wouldn't mind upgrading.Overall I really like this one and I think i'd regret getting something elsesoon I'll forget I even ordered it and one day it'll be like "oh shit my Z1 is gonna ship soon"
>>20973796I've been there with keycaps for my keyboardpay $180-200 and 2 years later a gift arrives in the mail randomly.
>>20973740
>>20973796I'm pretty sure Vel has been consistently ahead of schedule for the last few drops. Z1 being potential vaporware and p64 being out of stock is what made me pull the trigger on the Wug. Paid in march, got it may. Really glad I didn't flip my flair58 for an Argos(or Meticulous) preorder. I believe people are still waiting for batch 1 and 2 of those.
>>20973841>Wug>flat or conical>can even convert some hand grinders to electricpretty neat device. didn't see that one come up when I was looking at grinders
>>20973945Too late to cancel? :P It runs the blind 80mms from the weber eg1 among others. They were actually making a motorized HG1 years before Weber had the Key. Its like 3 engineers out of Hong Kong.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/867f_sj27Us>**Grinders are made to order and take around 50 days to manufacture. Once the order is placed, we will start building your grinder and purchase all the burrs you have ordered.
hey grinder anondoes this
>>20974049and thishave the same screws?for the flywheel specifically.
>>20974050like could i get a flywheel from the weber and put it on the craig lyn?
>>20974053craig lyn has thishttps://craiglyn.com/product/mount/but im not sure if these screws are just for the mounting and other ones are uses elsewhere on the grinder.and weber doesnt specify anything when i comes to screws.
>i thought i was 100% sure of the craig lyn but now im second guessing myself.>roughly $800 difference>is it worth it...
>>20974075nevermind i just checked the shipping, its $300what the fuckfuck that.
>brew came out trash again
>>20974084actually if you factor in the final shipping price of both (weber $2,769.00 - $1892.46 craig lyn = $876.54) its $876.54which is only 76 more than it was before and it was making me second guess.so i guess its the same.(ignore my schizing, i have been procrastinating for like 2 years and the "assignment" is finally due this month and i actually have to make a decision, before it was dreams, now its real)
>>20974096real as fuck
>>20974096Hey! I have that tie!
>>20974102100 dorra K6. Spend the rest on beans.
>>20974137>not bench mounted or vertically crankedgarbage.
if you're not grinding your beanz with a mortar and pestle (has to be wooden or else you mess up the flavor profile with ceramics) you're a poser making shitty pleb water drinks
>>20974205I'll have you know my wahter is RO filtered, thank you very much.
>>20974260you did remove the negative ions right?
>>20974267Nah bro, I just added the positive. Same difference, right?
>>20974075also i heard that the weber(and by extension the craig lyn) sucks for filter coffeebut it feel like thats just a pseud saying conical is bad for filter but good for espresso and flat is good for filter but bad for espresso.which idk if thats even true but w/ebut regardless i enjoy filter from my rok right now so a bigger and better conical burr would be even better and make even better filter even though it is still a conical.i think i will go with the craig lyn, even though it doesnt have alot of the quality of life features the weber has.i think it will satiate my soul more than the weber.i have been dreaming and blog posting about the craig lyn for years and i think i will enjoy owning it more because its the one i have been working towards. even though the weber is objectively better.:)>>20974271no thats how you get neutrons.
9pm pour oversorry for the spam todayhad a lot on my mind :)
Anyone else eat coffee beans directly?
>>20974461no :)
i love drinking coffee and shitting my trousers
>>20974510>shitting my trousersi only shit in my brunello cucinelli trousers
>>20973841is pre ordering the argos(or meticulous) and flipping the flair58 after you've received it not an option?
burned all my tastebuds off on coffee I thought was cool, how can I cope
>>20974590by drinking coffee :)
>>20974572There was a period of a few months back in 2021 where I could have pulled a profit on the first batch f58 while they were out of stock. It's now worth less than I paid for it with new slightly newer models out so I'd probably just gift it away now. An espresso machine in the hand is worth two in the bush or something. I'll just get a decent at some point.
New snack time beans bros, organic fairtrade natty Uganda Brazil Nigaragua catuai and maragogype 70/30 blend, 800-1800m.>No caffeine after 4 p.m.? Does it happen to be snack time, by any chance? Make yourself a cup of ground Chronic. 04PM coffee instead of poking around the kitchen. A real little treat with notes of almonds, chocolate, caramel and vanilla, which will delight even the sweetest of teeth, you'll see....Super tasty lil cuppa, thick body and syrupy texture almost gooey like. Balanced bitterness and acidity, none prevail. Taste is round and velvet-like. Has a chocohazelnut and almost honey-like taste with a medium plus lingering aftertaste (several minutes).Am happy, cuppa is real good,
>>20973771How do you like the Mazzer? It looks nice and I assume it should last for decades
>>20974828No complaints so far, but I've only had it a couple of weeks and I came from a 1zpresso K Max.
>>20974832>I came from a 1zpresso K Max.Damn that's a huge improvement.
>>20974834Yup, I don't miss hand grinding
Friend picked me this up from his state, never had anything with flavors like this.
>>20970688It’s caturday. I’m headed out to pick up some new beans.
>>20974877B&W are in the pastebin, they're good non-local roasters
>>20974910gato sexo
>>20974877they can not start naming coffee beans like weed strains cease this nonsense at once
Turns out one of the missing pieces in my moka pot routine was over-filling and levelling off. It made quite a difference from filling by eye and leaving a bit of headspace.
>pre-ordered the Aeropress PremiumI know it's a meme. I've been using my Aeropress for over a decade now and I have never been able to find a coffee maker that has been able to come close to my own personal enjoyment. I just want to stop taking in so much microplastics tbqwhy.
>>20974049>>20974050>>20974053>>20974075>>20974084>>20974102I can't wait for you to buy this and 2 months later a half price DF83c comes out. I think I'll roast some 120hr wush wush today :)
>>20975335>DF83why would i care about the price of an electric grinder.are you stupid?
>>20975265>he wasnt leveling offanon...
>>20975419>83cClearly using an imaginary model name to describe your ideal chinese hg-1 knockoff. Retard. What ever could that c stand for? The 83Context?
>>20975428well i know there is a v2so you could just as easily call each "v" after a letter insteadabcso perhaps you were talking about thatbut you dont understandi dont want a cheaper chinese knockoff.pretty sure those already exist anyway, and im not buying them.your whole comment is pretty stupid, why use the "DF83" model name at all when that company only makes electric grinders.and then adding a c on the end to denote that its from china?is everything ok with your head mate?you should have said "I can't wait for you to buy this and 2 months later a new model comes out that is better in every way the 22 model has its price slashed"because that IS a fear of mine that i have talked about at length here.so yes, you are stupid.
>>20975445Conical anon. The df83 CONICAL. Using 83mm CONE burrs at a lower price point because they don't need to spec out a motor. Did Weber slash the price when the key 2 came out? No. Did craiglyn slash the price when the prime came out? No. They just replaced them.
>>20975458>key >hg1 to 2You know what I meant. But they also didn't slash the price of the key when it was updated.
>>20975467>>20975458i dont want an electric grinder.i dont care what burrs it hasi dont care how much it costsi dont care who makes ithell if DF came out with a bench mounted, vertically cranked, 83mm conical burr grinder for less than the craig lyn TODAY, i probably wouldnt buy it.because i dont want the DF, because i have been dreaming and working towards the craig lyn(or the weber) for years.>but anon thats stupidyes, very much so.but thats simply how it is.the only way that i would own something like that(or an electric grinder) is if it was gifted too me.but even then im not sure if i would even enjoy using it.
>>20975482The DF doesn't mean electric. They also sell a zf64. If I had used hf83 as the example you'd be sperging out over that as well. I fucking hate autistic bogans.
>>20975487>he didnt read my comment before replying
>>20975489I really wish you had choked to death.
>>20975491i accept your concession :)and remember to wait for the wush wush to cool down so you dont burn your tongue :)
>>20975494Your neighbor won't be there next time. Reflect as you gasp for air.
Posting from inside an actual StarbucksAskme anything
>>20975504do they have a chemex
>>20975497you cant keep the conversation going so you resort to wishing death upon me.qq:)
>>20975505They do pour overs don't they?
>>20975510idki have never been in one
>>20975506There was never a conversation. I was wishing you ill from the first comment. I was originally going to call you retarded for thinking weber would sell you a spare plug n play flywheel.
>>20974603but I can't taste it
>>20975511They do
>>20975505>>20975511https://www.starbucksathome.com/sg/brewing-guides/brewing-at-home/chemex
11PM is new bean time bros, 100% Peruvian mono origin.>An all-nighter and grim thoughts? We have just what you need: ground Chronic 11PM coffee! This decaffeinated, highly recommended by the sandman, will not stop you from falling into Morphée's arms! All you have to do now is to wake up your coffee machine...Really smooth cuppa. Well balanced though not as syrupy as the 4PM cuppa. I will enjoy this deca before going to sleep soundly. Morphée likes this!100% Peruvian mono origin choco because caffeine is still important you never when shit is about to pop, you gotta stay noided.>Native Peruvian cocoa varieties create a surprise in this 100% full-bodied version. The chocolate blossoms with an ultra-coating effect and a singular roundness, very fresh butter. Bright spicy top notes between paprika and Tchaï and a cooked fruit finish complete the journey. Really round and balanced choco, no unpleasant bitterness, real butter smooth. Great times.
>>20975516>I was wishing you ill from the first comment.i know :)you have a hard time expressing yourself through words so you just lash out.>I was originally going to call you retarded for thinking weber would sell you a spare plug n play flywheel.i never thought they would sell me the flywheel. but just wanted to know if the screws were the sameim sure if you could buy a weber flywheel on the used marketor even a first gen craig lyn flywheelit was just that the weber was the best comparison.because i was looking at craig lyn(and i use company names because i find using the model names a bit confusing when you use them 10 times in a sentence.) and thought "hmmm would that look better with a weber style flywheel?" and i saw the screws(bolts?) looked similar.and alot of other stuff between the models is the same so maybe the screws would be too.but you werent here at the timeso i kinda spammed a bit(sorry about that)>There was never a conversation. i mean there was tho.we were literally having a conversation.you replied to methen i replied back and then you again then me again.thats a conversation.not a very nice one but i was one.
>>20975542I was here. Just ignoring your posts. You seem very desperate for interaction.
>>20975531>A la recherche d'un podcast ? Ces podcast originaux et replay d'émission offrent le temps d'aller au fond des choses. Et, cela tombe plutôt bien car chez Ethiquable, nous sommes - assez - bavards. On y parle commerce équitable, Scop, chocolat, agriculture bio, coopérative de producteurs, engagement et papilles... A vous de choisir la durée et le podcast qui vous convient. Bonne écoute !Fuck the french
>>20975571>i-i I WAS HERE ACTUALLY!sure thing champ>You seem very desperate for interaction.i simply asked a question... and then starting thinking out loudbut in the form of posts.
>>20975638See the post 20minutes before your schizing started?>>20974049
>>20975679mmmmmm>>20974013this one?
>>20975696
>>20975708i had that whole comment chain hidden :)i do that alot.like if i see a post i dont care about i just hide itwhich then later if it gets alot of replies or a long chain it means all of those are hidden too.so i will often wake up and see there is like 50 hidden posts.we both use the tomorrow theme too :)
Fully admitting that I'm not well versed in coffee. I'll go out and grab a cup from like Tim's or something on occasion and it's all well and good. But occasionally I'll make pot in a french press at home. Been using a ratio of 45g of coffee to 750ml water. Thing is, I'm like uncomfortably caffeinated every time I have a french press pot and have to shit within the hour. Like is it just the ratio that I'm fucking up, or can I just expect this any time with a french press vs store bought drip?
>>20975763more water = less strong coffee
>>20975763whats your process?commercial grade coffee is generally pretty low extraction, as in its weak
anyone who does decaf pourover regularly, how long are your brew times usually?
>>20975840Just boiling water in a kettle, pouring a little bit in the french press to let it bloom, then pour to weight. Wait for 4 minutes, then press.
>>20976338definitely nothing extreme but yeah that probably has more caffeine than timsidk im not a leaf
I know coffee is supposed to help you be more alert and awake, but I swear whenever I drink it it has almost no effect on me
>>20976586some people have naturally higher tolerance to caffeine
stormthen rain, my washing was on the line and i had to run out to grab it before it got wet.tagliatelle pesto for dinnerhad a big coffee this morning, so idk if i should have another tonight, or just go to bed(its 10pm)
>zoned out doing my second shot>didn't do any WDT>sprayed fucking everywhereI can definitely say that puck prep is not a meme
the hoffman french press method is retarded. why even use a french press? you could achieve the exact same results if you just used a pot and a strainer. i'm not saying it's bad or anything, but why even call it a french press method if you're not using the press as intended?
>>20970748yeah it's called iridescence. blue pigmentation is incredibly rare in nature, most blue insects and many blue birds are blue through this prinicple. there's no blue pigmentation, it comes from the microstructure of the cells which reflect light in a certain way. lexus actually developed a paint that works on this principle called structural blue and it's the most incredible blue paint you'll ever see.
>>20977032Do you think that press is actually generating any pressure that would affect the brew?
>>20977053probably not but why even use it at all?
Should I get a turin legato once the v2 is available in europe?
>>20977127Works decently with low tier grinders/dumb kettles and some people like the higher body and oil content that paper filters remove. When you're trying to strain something, you tend to avoid aggressively shoving solids back into the liquid. Thats all the hoffmeme method is doing. Keep more fines on the correct side of the strainer giving you a slightly "cleaner" "less muddy" cup. You could also use a highly unimodal set of burrs but that tends to be a waste of money when you're using a $12 ikea french press.
>>20970688Picked these up from a local roaster yesterday. Roasted one week ago today. Ground some up and made a latte for lunch. Wow, this stuff cuts right through the milk in really strong way. I would say it’s somewhere between light and medium roast. No visible oil on the beans and 22g barely fills my normcore 22g basket.
Has anyone tried Kitty Town Coffee? I like the idea of feeding cats with my coffee purchase but it seems likely to be absolutely shit-tier beans.
>>20977789Don't give money to dumbass marketing companies. Buy coffee you enjoy and donate money directly to cat shelters.
I'm going to start drinking coffee soon. Which creamer goes best with pic related? Should I be drinking my coffee by itself? Teach me, coffee kings.
>>20977996oh no no no no no no no no.you just walked into a three michelin star kitchen and asked which fast food hamburger is best.
>>20977996You just posted a pic of an espresso roast, a terrible one. Why would you be adding creamer to an espresso?
>>20977032>why even use a french press?thats the point anon.the french press is shit and his method of making good coffee with it is to just use it like a pot and a strainer.its his way of saying "this is stupid, dont use this brewer, use something else"
>>20978006presumably to make the "terrible" roast more palatable
>>20978018creamer is for bad pour-over coffee, not bad espresso. bad espresso just gets drowned in steamed milk until you can't tell.
>>20978024I've been making coffee for years and I still have no fucking idea what these coffee "creamers" are. Is it literally just flavour syrup?
>>20978130i dont know what the hell they're made of. some sort of heavy cream substitute that doesn't need refrigeration which is troubling to say the least. don't worry, RFK jr will ban them.
>>20977996PISS OUT MY ASS
>>20978130Yeah basically. Just oils and sugar or sugar syrups and artificial flavors. No dairy.
>>20978001if we're talking fast food, properly made (cuz fast food workers are inconsistent) mcdonalds $1 iced coffee on a summer day is the holy grail
>>20978270>if we're talking fast food, properly made (cuz fast food workers are inconsistent) mcdonalds $1 iced coffee on a summer day is the holy grailyour reading comprehension is dogshit
>>20978024there's no difference
>>20978270your reading comprehension is stellar
>>20977135depends on the price they're supposed to be pretty good
I drink espresso every day and I like the taste of bitter espressoI think acidic espresso is disgusting and I can't drink it but from what I understand that's a sign of good quality beans and is more of a connoisseur thing
>>20978369>I think acidic espresso is disgusting and I can't drink it but from what I understand that's a sign of good quality beans and is more of a connoisseur thingnah its a sign of badly made coffee.you can make, light roasted, fruity espresso without it being sour or acidic.its hard to do, but it can be done.or it could be that you simply dont know how to express what you are tasting and just say "its acidic" just like how you say you like "bitter" coffee.you might have an underdeveloped palate.like being given an object but you only have 2 bins to put it in, sharp or smooth. and you think "well i guess its more sharp than it is smooth so it goes in that one" whereas someone with an advanced palate has 100 different bins and they can put the object into the correct bin.
>>20978407Yeah you're probably right, I haven't tasted much coffee so it's mostly just me buying roasted beans and going 'oh I don't like this' and then never buying those beans ever againWhen I say bitter I mean I'm putting it in the same bin as say, bitter melon, and when I say acidic I mean I'm putting it in the same bin as say, vinegar
>>20978415You want some faggot rape???
>>20978419Fill me up daddy
>>20978407>fruity espresso If I want to taste fruit I get a fucking juiceEspresso has to be bitter and slightly taste like dark chocolate at most
>>20978531>espresso is what I say it is not you YOU say it isespresso is what I say it is not you YOU say it is
>>20972811I hated PNG, it tasted herbal af. Had nespresso PNG and it also had that hint of flavor
>>20970688which espresso machine should I get?>single boiler >single boiler heat exchanger>dual boilerI want to experiment a lot and have fine control over everything (if possible)drinking mostly cappuccinos and cortadosbudget is no constraint but sometimes time
>>20979028Single boiler is fine if you're not trying to make 3 or 4 drinks at the same time.Dual boiler is great if you're making multiple drinks in a short period of time (if you've got guests over for example), especially if you know you're going to often be steaming milk and multiple pulls at the same time.If you're pulling shots and steaming milk on a single boiler you'll be waiting around on the boiler by your 2nd or 3rd drink.
Cuppa for this morn
>>20979080whats that on the right
>>2097908330-06 5 rnd mag for a remington 7400 woodsmaster
>>20979084ok :)
>>20979166i wfh and fuck with it all day while i'm in meetings
>>20979176like a fidget spinner? :)
>>20979183yee i have a bunch of actual fidget toys my wife brings home from her toy factory job but nothing is better than random objects like that
>>20979186was the coffee good?i had a pour over a few hours ago but it wasn't very good(its good beans, just gotta dial it in)
>>20979208yeah, it's chemex. it was very good. I just don't really like these medium roasts as espresso, and I ran out of the nice dark roast I had. 20g ethiopian med roast, 300g water. 3oz steamed milk, good stuff
>>20979235you put steamed milk in a chemex brew?
>>20979236yeah i really like steamed milk
>>20979237...alright,each their own i suppose.:)i love milk but i've had to cut way way way back on it recentlymany different compounding issues all sort of hit me at once and fucked me upso, had to change my whole diet up, my gut is still getting used to itso had to basically cut dairy out entirelyno more cortado or latte for me unfortunately :(.hope to fix myself soon and get back to milk city.
ITS UP!>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7xGhGtvYIs
>>20979271Exactly what I needed
>>20977135By far the best out of the box that $500 can buy but you can't mod it like a GCP/Silvia/etc.
>>20979271tldr; DF54 was generally the best.
>>20977449>Wow, this stuff cuts right through the milk in really strong way.Using natural ethiopians in a latte is a waste
>>20979271Baratza Encore ESP bros...
>>20979369>is a wasteby what metrics?
>>20979271lollmao evenGrinding your coffee changes the grind setting, amazing.
>>20979384how does that even get past->chinesiumoh.
>>20979384Man that's rough lmao
>>20979391At least their OEM is fucking them on the backend and selling unbranded units on Alibaba.
>>20979384My old Ascaso i2 had that problem as well. Incredibly annoying
>>20979384I actually considered getting this thing, glad I didn't.
GCP or Rancilio Silvia if I'm willing to mod it? The Silvia is around 100€ more expensive
>>20979595>I'm willing to mod itObviously the one with the bigger modding community, the Gaggia. Get the brass boiler model.
>>20979608>Get the brass boiler model.is it really worth it? they're almost MSRP because they just launched so I'd have to wait or pay Silvia prices for it
>>20979595The silvia is better but it depends on if you think it's worth the extra 100€. I'd say go with the gaggia.
>>20979608>>20979611i always see this but what makes a stock silvia M better than a stock gcp?
>>20979641Ranciliosisters real quiet after anon dropped that post
>>20979610You can always install the brass boiler later. Get one of the refurbs so you can afford to buy and mod today. I love my GCP and i haven’t even modded it yet. Still waiting on my v4 gaggiuino kit to ship.
>>20979875>You can always install the brass boiler later.Can you? Its a larger brass boiler. Are you sure its a drop in replacement for older models?
>>20979897Responding to myself. $145.35. Available for Jan 2025 approx - price may change - unavailable for preorder.>Fits models: Achille , Baby, Baby 86, Baby 89, New Baby, New Baby06, New Baby06, New Baby Dosata, New Baby, Carezza, Classic Classic with aluminum boiler Coffee, Espresso, Espresso Deluxe, Evolution, Paros, Tebe Platinum vision Kitchen aid 5KES100 >Will not fit: Gaggia classic pro with stainless steel boiler - models made 2015-2017 Gaggia Gran Cubika
Are any other brands of moka pots worth it?
>>20979946By "other brands", I presume you mean other than Bialetti?
enjoyed an americano today. leave it to the italians to make a good dark roast
>>20979856probably not posting 24-7 itt
>>20979983i do leave it to themexcellent cup today boyosa blend of java sunda wet hulled and ethiopian dry, both in the medium range by my eyesground pretty coarse and brewed in an inverted aeropress, three minutes steeped and gently presseddelightful
>>20980461>>20980461>>20980461
>>20974877sounds like natural processed slop
