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Thread for discussing coffee and coffee related topics.

Can they not start naming coffee beans like weed strains edition?

If you're new and confused start here, then ask a few questions: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz

If you're old and confused hows the buzz?

Previous thread:>>20970688
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>>20980461
>cosmic turkey
At least it's tangentially Thanksgiving related.
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How does a S.T.A.L.K.E.R make coffee?
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Let's all get another laugh at the Varia VS3
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>>20980865
probably cowboy style, filters and any other contraptions out in the zone make any modern style a bit difficult.
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>>20980877
Just hold it in place with some tape
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>>20981168
Tiny bit of Teflon thread tape would sure that right up.
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>>20980877
notice how few of the youtuber salesmen pointed this out
really makes the nogging jogging

>>20981283
>just tape your brand new $300+tax+tip grinder bro
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>>20980877
Looks like I’m buying the df54 after all.
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>>20981321
>implying $300 is expensive
Go be poor somewhere else.
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>>20981374
You're clearly poor yourself if you wouldn't just spend more money on a better grinder that doesn't alter the grind setting as it runs.

Everyone knows REAL rich people do chewing gum and paper clip repairs all the time. They would never just buy a high quality item to begin with.
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>>20981384
My wug came with teflon on the adjustment dial threads. The $4000 weber eg1 uses cut zipties to keep beans from sticking in the chute.
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>>20981374
>implying $300 is expensive
i never implied that dumb retard
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>>20981384
needing anything else beyond instant coffee is flamboyant homosexuality and should be punished by being raped by my penis
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>>20981407
>$300 WHOLE dollars
>PLUS tax?
>PLUS A TIP??!
Just be glad you're not australian. It would be a whole house payment.
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>>20981406
Yes, and the people buying those items didn't have to hack together the fix and install it themselves, it was preinstalled.

Should they, at that price point, engineer a better fix? Sure, but as long as the consumer isn't directly impacted, it's at least acceptable.

The Varia VS3 is just a bad design with no actual fix im aware of besides using less lube on the burrs so it walks a bit slower, and readjusting the grind setting after every grind.
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>>20981421
>it was preinstalled
And needs to be periodically replaced.
>no actual fix
Other than slightly tightening up the threads with 6c of tape.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Harvey-1-2-in-x-260-in-Thread-Sealing-PTFE-Plumber-s-Tape-178503/202280370
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>>20981423
And that doesn't fix it, just makes it happen less. Now instead of walking back by 5-10 steps it's only 2-3.
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>>20981433
Here's what some reddit dipshit says on his unremedied vs3. Hoffmeme was clearly continually dumping beans in to demonstrate the drift. "Footage 8x speed, 40g in"
>the drifting on the grind setting drives me nuts and i basically have to hold the thing in place or get about 1 tick of drift per 18g
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>>20981447
None of that has swayed me.

Why shouldnt I DF54?
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>>20981453
I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm just saying don't bitch about easily fixable quirks on budget grinders.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wKjuCxohpKo
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>>20980461
PISS OUT MY ASS
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>>20981460
Post a picture of your current grinder

You know, for the lulz
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>>20981468
Need a time stamp?
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>>20981491
based REAL rich dipshits doing chewing gum and paper clip repairs
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>>20981499
Post that df54 once you save up some change.
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>>20981508
No need, i've got a Philos
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>>20981515
Congrats! Personally I wouldn't keep a mazzer if it were given to me. But to each his own.
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It needs a gasket to not fill up with grounds under the burrs? LOL.
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>>20981574
> The gap is sealed with the stock burrs, it doesn't seem to seal perfectly with SSP burrs
wow it's almost like it was a product designed for their burrs.
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>>20981582
>>20981574
Forgot pic
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>>20981574
>>20981525
lmao this man spent 20 minutes seething
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>>20981582
>>20981583
Why would you ever want to run mazzer burrs?
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>>20981594
If I didn't why would I buy a specific grinder that only advertises it works with their own burrs?

If I wanted to swap burrs i'd be spending $2000+ for something that's INTENDED for that kind of burr swapping.
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>>20981592
he spends his timed seething just observe
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>>20981599
I'm guessing you wanted the hot new reddit grinder and hopped on the $1 preorder.
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>>20981603
No, I had been eying a few grinders and the Philos caught my eye when it released in Europe. It had been on my radar for at least 4-5 months before I ordered it.
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>>20981499
did you fall out of the coconut tree?
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>>20981611
Daddygotcoffee got another one.
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What's the current pourover meta? Is the V60 still top dog?
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>>20981957
Clever dripper.
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>>20981957
Sworks dripper or orea+sibarist boosters for flats. UFO or melodrip colum for cones.
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>>20982053
WHATS UP MY FELLOW SWORKS
sounds like a slur on another planet
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>>20982053
>>20982064
I'm more of a Cervelo guy myself.
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>>20980461
DUDE COFFEE
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old pic i had from harvest
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So as a hand grinder only anon, which auto grinder is the most loved and approved by
/ctg/
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>>20982179
Extremely based coffee harvester
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>>20982257
Baratza esp and mazzer philos
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>>20982296
Aww, he wants attention

Here you go champ
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>>20982323
Do you have a different answer to anon's question?
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>>20982344
DF64
You're just bringing up the Philos in a weird attempt to trigger the anon from hours earlier.
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>>20982350
There was an anon here a few threads ago who was very vocal about the shit quality of his df64 v2. By all accounts here the philos has been rock solid so far. Encore esp just got glowing reviews from The Hoff himself.
https://warosu.org/ck/thread/20834057#p20843907
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>>20982361
DF64 is chinkshit, that's why it's so cheap, the downside is quality control is hit or miss and you might need to align your burrs, but you're getting $1000 performance at half the price.
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>>20982365
Hit or miss quality chinkshit doesn't sound like the most loved and approved /ctg/ grinder.
>The wave spring is not sufficient. The motor shaft is also not even remotely straight. I am not really sure what you are defending here or why but given the cost of the grinder it is essentially impossible for it to do what it is trying to do.
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>>20982368
You're reading an autists words.

DF64 beats the pants off of anything else in it's price range and I wouldn't be shocked if we had at least 4-5 regular posters here who own one.
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>>20982371
Okay bud. If you say so. Do you own one?
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>>20982379
Do you?
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>>20982383
Nope. That's why I directly quoted another anon who does.
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>>20982391
>Nope.
Gotcha
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>>20982285
the producer of that farm was cool, as soon as i got there he took me to the lot they were harvesting and we rode the mechanical harvesters. each one of those rows are a kilometer long to give some idea of scale
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>>20982395
>sourced quote by owner
vs
>unsourced "im sure 4-5 people here have gotten decent units"
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>>20982409
Thanks for the feedback bud.
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>>20982296
>mazzer philos
what's wrong with the Philos?
It looks neat
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>>20982379
I do. No complaints thus far
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>>20982476
Nothing at all. Sprometheus loved his.
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what are your favorite aeropress accessories
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>>20980461
Loving these Ethiopian beans.
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>>20982527
Silky af.
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Would buying an espresso machine fill the hole in my heart that she left? I was thinking a Decent DE1XL
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>>20982568
Nope, but if you pair it with a $1000-2500 grinder and take a few weeks to practice you can beat the pants off most coffee shops in the country, which while it wont allow you to forget her, will at least get you good espresso.
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>>20982539
ya it's so hard to pour any art because the crema is so fragile
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>>20982575
you can beat the pants off of most coffee shops with a hand grinder and a stock gaggia classic pro.
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>>20982612
Yeah but with a decent and a good grinder you're beating like all but a handful as long as you get a bit of practice and take the effort to do the process properly.
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>>20982670
or for less than a grand you can get the performance of a decent by building a gaggiuino
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>>20982612
pretty much

back when i was a barista, training was "you put the portafilter here, coffee comes out, you tamp it down, put it in this machine, press this button, turn if off when it hits 36mL". i had no understanding of espresso and no one on staff seemed interested in coffee so i had to learn a lot on my own. i remember my manager getting mad at me for properly dialing in the espresso because "none of the other baristas know how to 'reset' the grinder"

>>20982670
i'd argue coffee iq and experience go further than good gear. a good barsita can make an excellent coffee on just about anything, whereas the average homebrewer with the top of the line gear will probably just make okay coffee
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>>20981406
>The $4000 weber eg1 uses cut zipties to keep beans from sticking in the chute.
Amazing.
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>>20982527
>two-tone keycaps
gross
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>>20982761
They’re pudding caps.
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>>20980461
ah fuck... Delaware...
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What do you think of getting
>Rocket Mozzafiato type r
>Fiorenzato All Ground Sense
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bought a superautomatic. don't need more autism in my life so I'd rather put up with supposedly "inferior" coffee. it's so hot here anyway that 80% of the year I'm doing iced/milk drinks so probably won't even notice any difference between this delonghi and the magnacoffee autist 3000 manual superslayer crotchless portafilter with bob down's single dose $1488 ultragrinder.
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>>20980461
Hello there /ctg/, I'm not a big coffee drinker. I've only tried it a handful of times but recently I won a coffee maker at work and it uses these little pod things. Got any recs? A friend of mine gave me pic related
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>>20983100
get a refillable pod and put good coffee in it
see the pastebin for good coffee
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>>20982179
>>20982396
Really cool. Reminds me of the machines my neighbour uses to harvest grapes.
Any more cool things about the coffee farms?
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>>20982527
>>20982819
this anon is trans
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>>20983381
Can we not have this again.
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>>20983385
41% chance we won't.
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>>20983389
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>>20983100
aldi has pretty good coffee if you have one near you
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Drug dealer scale died on me. What’s a good cheap-ish scale for espresso
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>>20983381
You wish
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>>20983498
>pudding top mechanical keyboard
>N64 controller
>multi-monitor setup
>using light roast Ethiopian naturals in a milk drink
I’m going to say there is a 90% chance you identify as a woman and a 100% chance you are a biological male
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>>20983506
I’m concerned that you see trannies in everything anon. That’s a weird head space for you to be living in.
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>>20983514
>wristlet and a watchlet
coffee
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>>20983514
your watch says ANUS
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>>20983485
Damn bro what did you do to that poor thing, it looks like it's been raped
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>>20983612
it got sprayed all over by a no WDT, über-channeled shot yesterday when I was sleep deprived and I didn't bother with cleaning it.
I think that the espresso seeped into the internals and dried lol
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>>20982757
a fool and his money...
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>>20983649
For me its the icafilas.
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What’s a good manual grinder for pour over exclusively? V60 and immersion mainly, all roasts but mainly medium and light, natural and washed coffee (no fermented).

Budget 200€ max.
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>>20983687
1zpresso K ultra and zp6 will be around that price for BF sales on aliexpress. Kingrinder k6 will be about half that.
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https://youtu.be/2t7Ba8Vr9HY lets fucking go decafchads
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>>20983687
Coffeecircle has the Comandante C40 for 199€, can't really go wrong with that
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>>20983687
The other two gave you the max budget options, I'll suggest the kingrinder k6 and p0-2 as the more budget options.
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Are non bialati moka pots worth? They seem functionally the same?
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B R O S

Redpill me like right the fuck now about this grinder + offer

https://kinugrinders.de/product/m47-phoenix-special-offer-2/
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Has drinking a dark roast french press black coffee with a 1:10 bean to water ratio every day ruined my taste buds?
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>>20983985
is this a real cat pic?
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>>20983985
is smoking good for cats?
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>>20983954
Top tier espresso burr set(that a guy happened to win the World Brewers Cup with) + their top tier pourover optimized burr set. Stupid good deal. I actually just sold my old 2019 kinu phoenix to another anon here a few weeks back.
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>>20984011
Ok anon, so, in the grand scheme of Kingrinder K6 vs Kinu Phoenix M47 with both burr sets, the latter would be a good deal right?

Consider that I'm not using top tier beans all the time, so I fear that a very good grinder like the ZP6 (which is the reason why I discarded it) would evidence all the defects and roasting issues of the beans, is this the case with the M47?
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>>20984016
>the latter would be a good deal right?
Undoubtedly. That m47 is the basis for 1zpresso's JE-Plus. They copied that italian made(Italmill) burr set, started CNCing their own burrs in china and called it the JX/JXpro/Jmax. The kinu pourover burr has been tweaked from that original design to feed a bit less aggressively and put off less fines. I think you'll be very happy with the flexibility.
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>>20984064
Ok anon thank you for the insight.

The only concern I have is that I would need to swap the burrs each time I change style, which is not a big deal but it's not as immediate as changing the grind size on something like the K6/K-Ultra.

I now own a JX Pro S which in case I would sell and keep the M47 with both burrs only, but if I end up with the K6 I'll keep both and use the Kingrinder for pour over only.

I'm really confused.
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>>20984091
Starting to suspect I'm helping a spamming mokatard. Good luck and/or go back.
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>Coffee diaries
Do you keep one? An app, spreadsheet or dead trees? What do you record? How has it helped? Did you arrive at any insights?
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Lol

Lmao

Redditor got a Philos with a bit of a slant on it.

Mazzer is replacing it, but still funny looking.
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>>20984138
i just write shit down on my phone’s notes app. grind setting, water temp, brew time, and taste for every attempt i do with a specific bag to try and find the best tweaks. I’ve also been recording orders from every cafe i visit during my lunch break at work so i remember which ones are ass and which are good
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>>20983544
He has manly hot hands you're obviously a straight biological male because you can't tell
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huh grinder? what are you gay?
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>>20984119
It’s too late anon.

Sadly I decided to ditch the kinu because while it’s top notch, I don’t want to swap the burr each time, it’s either filter or espresso.
I would gladly swap the Phoenix for my JX Pro, but I need a dedicated pour over grinder so the choice is ZP6 or K6.
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>>20984267
Think that account will last longer than your instagram did?
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>>20984276
What account? I don’t have any.
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>>20984283
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>>20984290
Ah that one? When enough people answer I’ll thank them and delete it as always.
Are you a plebbitor or a tranny mod there?
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>>20984294
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>>20984294
>It’s too late anon.
I just checked the most likely location where a rat would run. Like the last time you snitched on yourself.
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>>20984301
Lmao no, it’s just that on r/coffee they delete your post for new accounts so I have to use minor subplebbits.
Who cares also?
I also gave you people ITT the kinu Black Friday promo tip, it’s a hell of an offer and you should actually thank me btw.

If only they made an M47 option with the pour over burr only as standard…stupid Germans…
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>>20984310
>you should actually thank me btw
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>>20984310
I posted it two threads ago dipshit.
>>20963114
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>>20984322
Nice anon, unlike you I’m not here 24/7 so I didn’t catch it.

Good job.
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>>20984197
Are they george costanza tier hands anon?
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>>20984322
>I posted it
retard
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>>20984325
>you should actually thank me btw
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>>20984146
/r/espresso?
Kinda despise that place tbqhwy
"Just got into espresso, check out my setup! *La Marzocco Linea Mini and a DF64*"
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>>20984146
Would that actually be bad long term?
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Anyone try just brewing coffee in one mug and then dumping it through a filter into another mug instead of going through the pour over process? Sort of like a french press without the metal filter.
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>>20984406
>Literally just filtering out grounds from water dumped on coffee
But why....
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>>20984404
Probably not. The issue is if it shits out 6 months down the road and you have to convince CS
>No it totally came fucked like that there were absolutely no warranty voiding mishaps.
Also there's a nonbent Philos that just went up on EAF discord for $800 shipped. i200d burrs. Guy wants to move up to 80 or 98mm for some reason.
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>>20984412
Maybe immersion is better than pour over. I mean, why would anyone ever use a french press?
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Sometimes you get zipties. Sometimes you get double sided tape holding your big shiny badge on. No wonder the adjustment is in the back lel.
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>>20984406
actually yes. was staying out of town and didn't have any brewing equipment other than a grinder and pack of filters. so to make coffee i boiled a pot of water, let it cool for a min, added the coffee, let it brew for 4 min, then filtered it

pretty much the same profile as a drip. french press has a distinct profile due to the fines and oils not being filter out by the metal filter. so filtering an immersion brew like you described is essentially a more complicated way to do a typical pourover/drip brew. not worth the hassle
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>>20984417
No I mean why not just use a french press?
Why even say "instead of pour over" when talking about immersion brewing?
It's like saying "has anyone ever poured water in a circle over coffee grounds over some sort of filter, sort of like a pourover"
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>>20984520
>No I mean why not just use a french press?
To avoid the problems that come with the french press.
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>>20984531
>problems that come with the French press
Elaborate further anon
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>>20984534
No offence but you sound like a faggot.
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What the hell is up with the guy shilling the M47?
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>>20984542
> X thing has issues
>what issues?
>y..your a faggot
Nice deflection retard, how about you substantiate your claim instead.
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>>20984548
You have nothing to offer but whining. Must be a common theme with you. This guy >>20984488 was able to answer the question anyway.
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>>20984563
Nice. A different flavour profile is a good response. Though different isn't exactly a problem like you've stated. You could have responded like that instead of offering nothing yourself.
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>>20984577
Are you having a stroke?
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>>20984587
Is your name ad hominem?
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>>20984597
No this is Patrick
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>>20984599
:^)
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>>20983356
>Any more cool things about the coffee farms?
the amount of coffee varieties. that farm has about 40 varieties if i remember correctly. i cupped anywhere from 2-3 times a day for a week straight first time i went there. being able to cup 40 different varieties multiple times, of varying grades, from various sections of the farm, different microclimates, different harvests (we cupped a few lots from previous harvest against current harvest), etc but all from one singular farm really gave me a new appreciation and understanding of coffee.

pic is of some ruiru 11 planted earlier this year at a different farm in guatemala
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>>20984548
nta but cleaning a french press sucks
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>>20984619
Damn that's like a speedrun in palate refining. I suppose you are there for business.
I'm sure it must've been a diverse whilst still only being from a single farm, meaning it can be much more.

those ruiru 11 would be picked by hand and kept growing agroforestry style right?

Don't hesitate to share more stories it's a breath of fresh air for this general
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>>20984650
I was actually there to purchase several brown children.
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>>20984423
that's factory? assholes, a bit of glue would be easier, cheaper and more effective
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>>20984704
Its just a touch of that italian heritage you hear so much about.
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>>20984730
just glue it back I guess
how's that orbital clump remover thingy? they always looked like a meme to me
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>>20984730
Lay off the pasta Giuseppe.
How much does that kit costs you think?
I bet you get top tier le'sprezzó from that setup. In your fucking shorts.
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>>20984744
>>20984753
I'm just pulling pics from homebarista. Looks like there's already a faceplate revision with screws.
https://www.home-barista.com/grinders/new-mazzer-grinder-announcement-mazzer-philos-t89622-900.html#p1014117
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>>20984790
US chads winning again
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I'm looking to spend $2000-3000 on an espresso machine and grinder
Any suggestions?
I'm not looking to get the most expensive machine but I want something that is high quality, made to last and is nearing diminishing returns but not quite there yet
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>>20984836
Zerno Z1 + whatever decent single boiler machine you like and other assorted accessories should set you back around $2500-3000.
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>>20984836
Is it gonna be your first? If so don't spend that much and get a Bambino or GCP + some starting tier grinder to get a feel for stuff, $600 should be plenty.
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I've ordered the Papau New Guinea beans. At 20 bucks a pound they will be half the price of Blue Mountain Jamaica, but will they truly be able to replace Blue Mountain Jamaica?

No, the answer's no, the answer's always no, I should have invested in Bitcoin so I could afford the morning coffee I an intellectual deserve.
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did you guys get your decaf tasting sets? mine was 25 donalds shipped for 4 full 60g ziplock bags. I've never tried a decaffeinated coffee before. I presume it will be shit and the (promoted) new way of decaffing will be marginally better tasting.
if they'll taste completely different then thos Beans are no longer coffee.
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>>20982975
came today. after doing the basic cleaning and discarding first 5 shots. it's good.
using midrange lavazza medium roast beans tastes exactly like what I get from coffee shops.
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>>20984670
Is the price better than in Canada?
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>>20982975
>>20985012
What superauto did you end up with?
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>your coffee, my choice
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>>20985013
You always get a better deal when you buy directly from the wholesaler.
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>>20985015
Delonghi Eletta Explore. I got the cheaper version on sale on Amazon. I looked at the various brands, decided on a Delonghi, and then picked the Eletta mostly because it has the flip up tray which fits my regular 16oz/450ml thermal cup and because it has the hot & cold milk system jug thingies. I figured I was getting an automatic machine I might as well get the one that will mean the least amount of additional work.
Without the flip up, or if the Eletta was only available in the "Titanium" cold brew version (which is another ~30% more expensive, which would have made it too much for me) I would have got the Magnifica Evo, which to me was the best value for money out of all the options.
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>>20985039
>Delonghi Eletta Explore
Looks like there are 4 on Ebay right now with "distressed packaging" that are ~$1350.
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I've come to the conclusion that caffeine addiction is unbeatable



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