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nothing ever happens
maybe it will happen
it will happen soon
it's happening
it happened

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>>20995444
Hey, I added checkboxes to that post. Fuck this lame text editor.

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The shop is absolutely based, they have artisanal chocolates from various grades and countries, tea around the world roasted there, a lot of other food products too.

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I had a blue mountain espresso which I didn’t take a picture of but it was really good

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Came home with this.

Today was a good day.

>>20995456
>>20995460
What the fuck, that blows the tits off all the coffee shops and cafes I've been to. Fucking America.

>>20995460
How much did they charge?

>>20995538
you can see the price under the text, i guess 2.70 brusselbux

>>20995464
the thumbnail looked like the tacobell logo to me, you had me concerned there for a minute

>>20995538
2.70€ the espresso and 7€ the San Salvador

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>>20995444
>>20995451
>>20995456
>>20995460
>>20995464
Ultra based bro. Looks really comfy.
Maybe you can help i want to buy some Caffè Jesi tazzine though i only found them on lorocaffe.it but they only ship to Italy. Do you know of another place i could get some online, ideally new so not ebay or do i have to go to italy to buy some?

>>20995451
I wish we had cool coffee shops...

>>20995560
Thank you anon.

It's difficult to find vintage cups outside ebay, you either need to know collectors who want to trade their cups or find them in local markets.

This query can help, but there isn't the cup you're looking for: https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=tazzina+caff%C3%A8+bar+vintage

>lorocaffe.it

They indeed say they don't ship outside Italy, you can only try to email them and ask if they can arrange an international shipping. It shouldn't be difficult for them to do so.

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>>20995588
At worst, download the logo and find one of these online shops that make espresso cups and mugs with your custom logo, Etsy could work too, and upload pic

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Hey /ctg/,

I'm looking to upgrade my grinder, coming from the 1zpresso JX. What are my options? Seems like from what I've read the C40 is the obvious choice; i don't have an espresso machine so the kinu wouldn't make a great purchase. I've seen some people mentioning the ode 2, which seems appealing, but if it isn't an upgrade over the C40 it doesn't quite make the cut (shelling out an extra 200 for better burrs kinda defeats the purpose). Is there something I'm missing? I've been 'out of the game' for a few years.

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>>20995618
Waifu2x'd

>>20995619
K-Ultra if you make filter primarily
J-Ultra if you make espresso primarily
ZP6 if you make filter exclusively

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>>20995619
What kind of coffee do you prefer? Light roast fruits and florals or darker chocolate and nuts?
https://youtu.be/nXunNMwWIJk

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>>20995588
>vintage
Are they not in business anymore?! I found out about them thru the INEI website and their brands page, the logo really popped out.
Thru http://www.grancaffe.info/eng/consorzio/jesi.htm i get the page www.jesicaffe.it but it redirects to caffemilani.it
I thought it was just not an international brand and really local or Ho.Re.Ca (“Hotel, Restaurant & Café”), i can't tell but it looks like lorocaffe sells some of their coffee https://www.lorocaffe.it/linea-horeca/
Being from Milano i wasn't sure if you ever heard of this company. Thanks for your time anyway.

>>20995618
>>20995620
Printing the cup is too easy and cheapens the thing imo, having to search and maybe go to italy makes it more fun and worthy to me.
Plus the 22euro for 6 cups from lorocaffe is a good price imo.

>>20995623
>>20995638
Prefer a nice floral when i can find it, but i'll often brew dark roasts or mixed cups when I run out of good local med/light roast. Zp6 seems appealing, I only brew filter atm, but apparently it isn't great with dark roast.

>counter culture coffee at Harris Teeter: roasted 11/10/24, $12 for 12oz
Yeah it’s a blend but damn. Supermarket coffee has come a long way.
Gonna use this iced pourover

>>20995664
>apparently it isn't great with dark roast
But you'd still have the jx for that. I'd say if you're wanting an upgrade with no plans for espresso the ode 2 burr might not be a bad choice across the roast spectrum. Cheap entry to 64mm flats with access to ssp/lebrew burrs if you feel the need to upgrade later. $276 this week for black friday.
https://fellowproducts.com/products/ode-brew-grinder-gen-2?variant=40978992463972

>semi-washed
What did she mean by this?

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My entire life, when not in a restaurant, I have drunk my coffee out of generic, 330ml ceramic mugs (those that you find when looking for photo mugs), just a straight cylinder.
Now I want to stop being a caveman, but I have no idea what I need for most coffee drinks. Are those double walled glass ones good? What sizes should I own? Are there terms for them?
Assuming I like filter, espresso and cappuccino mostly.
I basically want to know what the cup types for something like picrel are called.

>>20995827
Coffee cups. Just get whichever ones you think look nice. There's people that drink espresso out of shot glasses.

>>20995827
I can attest that double walled glass is the superior style for heat retention. However finding what you want is just trial and error. Just search double walled glass then type: coffee cup/mug to find what you want. For example double walled glass - latte - cortado -cap - esspresso e.c.t.
There's a number of options on sites like aliexpress.

>>20995812
Just a little cold water. No soap.

>>20995827
How do you make a lungo

>>20995860
You pour the coffee into your lungs and then cough it out again

>>20995827
I've got a bunch of different shit from various companies. You've got options.
>Kruve-thin chinese double walled glass, they've got some porcelain latte stuff now, wouldnt buy again
>Origami-very nice jap stoneware,porcelain
>Torch- handblown jap glass, I use it for everything from espresso to filter to tea to liquor to water
>NotNeutral -super heavy, durable american molded glass, more modern style for cafes, faceted so customers don't constantly break shit
https://www.slowpoursupply.co/collections/cups-and-saucers
https://www.slowpoursupply.co/collections/origami-cups
https://dodrip.net/free/lg
https://www.notneutral.com/collections/vero
People also really like stuff from loveramics.

>>20995841
Thanks, would you say double walled is a straight upgrade over ceramics? I mean I assume they have better heat retention as you said and lower thermal mass, meaning you don't have to preheat them as much, but are there also downsides?
>>20995871
Thanks for all those links anon, I'm looking into it right now.

>>20995915
>downsides
well your coffee will take longer to cool and open up
more of a concern with pourover than espresso of course

>>20995915
You can mimic the heat retention of a double-walled cup by preheating a thick ceramic cup. I preheat my cups with the grouphead purge water and by the time the spro finishes pouring, the cup is at the perfect temp. To get the opposite effect you can use a glass with very thin walls, which doesn't need preheating because of its low thermal mass (though it does cool quickly).

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>>20995827
…drinking apparatus matters??

>>20996042
Ever wondered why sandwiches cut into triangles taste better?
Because they remind you of your school lunch which was probably the last time in your life you had some food that was lovingly prepared by someone who cared for you. Presentation matters.
Turns out that drinking your coffee out of an enjoyable, good looking and well suited vessel does give most people pleasure, so why not get something nice, it's for your favorite guy after all, (you).

Fucking hell I just realised I got the coarseness direction wrong
That explains everything

I think I'm gonna kill myself

>>20995544
did this mnigga just airtamp?

>>20996042
One drinks from vessels, not apparatus.

>>20996128
you should buy some natural process burundi :)

>>20996133
its uhhhhh traditional italian technique...

Can I just throw the bags of coffee I bought in the freezer as they are or do I need to vacuum seal them in food safe bags?

drinking the last of my sumatra.
next is nicaragua washed

>>20996167
>Italy gave birth to espresso
>Italians make shit espresso
Such is life

>>20996187
yes
sealed is better
vacuum sealed is betterer
divvying up a large bag of coffee into smaller bags and then vacuum sealing and then freezing is best.

>>20996196
entitlement and ego keeps italy in the past.
they need to be humbled before they can move into the 21st century.
>well this is how my nonna did it, and she learnt it from her nonna and her nonna before that, therefore this technique is THE LAW!

>>20995397
>that pic
I had a patient who did that to himself once. Severely schizophrenic obviously.

>>20996201
>basing off the entire country's coffee prep off of one random webm
Not even shitalian but why do you retards always do this?

>>20996201
>my grandma, her grandmother and all of their grandmothers before them all had a vagina
>my present day daughter has a penis and she’s legally a woman, therefore progress is LE GOOD!

>>20995397
>donald duck gets fucking forced drank molten hot coffee and dies.jpg

>>20995444
>>20995451
>>20995456
>>20995460
>>20995464
>punished mokafrà redemption ark has officially started

Kino

>>20996214
>of one random webm
true anon, i couldn't have possibly had any other experience with italians or their culture at any point in my life.

>>20996187
Tape the valve.

>>20996228
https://youtu.be/eiDuQUFBzUg

>>20996239
What if I squeeze all the air out of the bag and immediately freeze it?

>>20995397
i was thinking of asking my mom for a grinder for christmas (electric). <$300 and need it to have a fine enough setting for espresso. any suggestions? so far mainly looking at baratza encore ESP

>>20996244
>coughs into his hand and doesnt wash his hand before picking up glasses
gross
>inb4 "they do that everywhere!"
thats why i dont eat or drink anything i havent made myself.

>>20996271
Nothing more effeminate than being mysophobic.

>>20996280
>irrational fear of germs, dirt, or contamination
anon he coughed into his hand and touched glasses that customers are going to put their hands and mouths on
there is nothing irrational about that.
fucking retard.

>>20996255
Df54

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How do I get my pour over server to fit on this?

>>20996454
what?

>>20996454
take off the beans first.

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>>20996456
how2fit

>>20996468
just like
y'know
put it on the scale
?

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>>20996479
it's like, smol.

>>20996454
You don't. It only goes up to a 1 kg load and it's sensitive to off-axis loading.

>>20996506
so?
if it hangs over the edges its still going to measure the weight the same

>>20996513
>and it's sensitive to off-axis loading
>>20996521
>if it hangs over the edges its still going to measure the weight the same
anons....

>>20996538
the other anon is retarded, listen to me.

Is Zerowater a meme? Seems really expensive
Water quality here is decent, but hard as hell (20° dH) and Brita filters barely do any softening.

>>20995619
Very happy with my C40
Really depends on local pricing which grinder is best
If you're in Europe you can grab a C40 for 190€ at Kofio.
Outside Europe you're probably better off with a ZP6 or K-Ultra. Grind quality is very similar, but the 1Zpresso do grind faster
Comandante does have actual customer service and good spare parts availability, 1Zpresso is pretty spotty with that.

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Who else is going to do Hoff's decaf tasting? and how much does it cost near you?
https://www.thedecafproject.com/buy-a-tasting-kit

>>20996647
€20 from roaster in eindhoven, I've never tried this brand
https://sproutcoffeeroasters.art/products/decaf-project-tasting-set

I wanted to get from the roaster in Rotterdam (Giraffe) but they sold out very quickly

>>20996468
just get a bigger kitchen scale, you don't need <1g precision for the water
weed scale is for the coffee

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Neroscuro delivered today.

I’ve got so much coffee to last for months now.

I’ll probably use the Hodeidah San Salvador to make another Christmas coffee liquor.

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I use 30g of coffee in my Narrow Orea V4.

>>20996763
kute kot

My grinder says you need to adjust the coarseness with the grinder running, is this a big problem?

>>20996778
what grinder?

>>20996790
DF64V

>>20996793
mmm as long as its not chirping(where the burrs touch while the grinder is on) it should be fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DskBJ8Zm_dk

>>20996765
f-for two shots right...

>>20996762
https://www.spreaker.com/episode/come-la-coltivazione-e-la-raccolta-influiscono-sul-gusto-del-caffe--17100070

>>20996816
god i hate listening to italian.
hearing women speak is "bearable" if she is hot.

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>>20996808
ALL IN ONE BIG MUG.

>>20995827
use a tea cup like the british

>>20995397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpLgYd7kbeg coffee soup

>>20995619
I went from a 1zpresso to the Mazzer Philos.

I don't see the point in upgrading in tiny increments.

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>specialty grade

Serious question as a coffee noob - why is there no "middle market" for coffee?
In my local Discounter I can get coffee for 10-15€/kg depending on the brand and looking up local roasters, they costs 40-50€/kg.
I know how the price differences exist, but I find it weird that I can see basically nothing in-between these two extremes of absolute bottom of the barrel lowest bidder coffee and artisanal locally roasted coffee.

>>20996778
Standard practice.

>>20997100
>why is there no "middle market" for coffee?
not enough demand.
if 95% of coffee drinkers on earth drink low grade coffee and the other 5% drink specialty coffee, there really isnt any real for "slightly better than slop" coffee.
if you want good coffee that is cheap you need to roast yourself.
for green beans you can get specialty beans for like $15/kg on the low end, and up to like $40/kg
and depending what roaster you buy and how much coffee you drink you can pay off the upfront investment in savings within a couple years and then its all profit from then on.

>>20997127
>up to like $40/kg
Kek. https://minmaxcoffee.com/product/unroasted-coffee-el-socorro-washed-gesha-500g-1-10lb/

>>20997169
im so sorry i didnt check every single green coffee bean seller on the planet before posting, how foolish of me, i shall now commit seppuku
fucking retard.

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>>20997175

>>20996280
Go away Asmonmold

>>20997202
PISS OUT MY ASS

Rancilio Silvia or Lelit Grace? They cost about the same

>>20996762
>nero scuro
dark nigger? lmao

what kind of beans are good enough for milk drinks? do you even notice high quality beans in milk drinks?

How hard should a grind be tamped? I thought one was just meant to lightly press out large air gaps without compacting the grounds too much, but I've found I can really ham them in there and it'll extract okay.

>>20997465
Around 100N or harder, you'll want to tamp the coffee until it won't compress any further.
Tamping harder won't have any negative effects on the coffee, just on ergonomics.

>>20995638
Interesting chart. SSP 98mms are basically all the same? And Shurikens can have both more and less body?

I'm going to murder Blue Mountain fag because I tried it and it really was quite good. Now I'm paying attention to the gearfags argument and considering blowing 300 bucks on a grinder this fucking general is bad for my wallet

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>>20995638
Curious where the new 64mm mazzer burrs lay on that chart.

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>>20997573
A tragic fact of life you learn is that good things cost more money than bad things

>>20997595
Is that milk in your expensive BMC?

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>>20997477
At that point you're getting down to subtle subtle differences. For what its worth the guy who made that chart doesn't like it at all. Those kafateks are specifically the "light medium" ones so I'm assuming he means they can be dialed differently. Thinner lights and more textured mediums. Kafatek says they're the best all rounder, and also best light low ratio espresso burr so it kind of makes sense.
https://espressoaf.com/guides/burr_catalog.html
https://www.kafatek.com/index.php/index.php/store/shuriken-burrs-98mm-for-monolith-max/

>>20997611
Butter :^)

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>>20997595
is this where got that anon?

>>20997593
(From what I've read) i189s are very close to the older mazzer 33m, and the i200d is similar to 64mp but less harsh/bit easier to dial. If you want a direction, probably a bit "northwest" of 64mp.

>>20997616
I think I'm gonna get the DLC 83mm brew burrs. They're cheap and similar to SSP MP but with more body, supposedly.

>>20997635
I've got the i189D that I ordered with it, debating if I want to pick up the i200D as well just to have both.

>>20997611
Well it's unpasteurized straight from a cow, but not very expensive. Just a bit of a drive but I was picking up pies for thanksgiving anyways

>>20997627
>Blend
Aww you got me hyped for a moment I buy for 40 bucks a pound and was wondering why the price was so low

Right trader, wrong variety. Blend is as it implies a blending of the Blue Mountain Bean and other crap

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>>20997682
$32.5/lbs

>>20997611
Oh I misread you're wondering why I put milk in it - cause it tastes good, duh. I can and do drink JBM black but smooth coffee goes great with milk, makes it taste nice and silky.

>>20997686
Nice desu ne, I'll buy direct from now on unless they don't include shipping(like Minmax;_;)

Still waiting for the Panama Gesha to arrive, informed delivery says its coming this friday and I'm psyched to drink it.

>>20997697
NTA but that's the wholesale price when you buy four pounds, still, if you buy just one lb from the website it's 35 bucks a lb which is cheaper than 40 bucks.

>>20997697
Mine should be here monday. I'd highly suggest letting it rest for a while. And not putting milk in it. You're not drinking 1000masl typica.

>>20997709
How long a rest? And don't worry no moo moo juice in the 80 bucks a lb coffee

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I put lots of cream and lots of sugar in my coffee

>>20997713
Minimum two weeks. I'll probably sample mine around the 15th then wait a bit more before freezing single doses.

>>20997424
Lelit has PID and pre-infusion control but 57mm so decide based on that.

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Craving a milk cov this morning
>>20997573
I am tempted to buy a grinder because of this general. However my car needs a new headlight and I can't decide between black Friday grinder or black Friday light.

>>20997687
Actually I also like milk in my coffee. I love milk, and I love coffee, and I love them together. Just surprised there was someone willing to "taint" coffee like that with it, because I'd also totally do it. Try not to get sick though, apparently some cows have started coming down with some disease lately.

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>>20997720
so zased

>>20997573
>I'm going to murder Blue Mountain fag because I tried it and it really was quite good
Wait until you try actually good coffee instead of troll memes.
>this fucking general is bad for my wallet
Coffee is a bad rabbit hole.
t. started out doing cold brew with charbucks beans with a blade grinder, now have a $400 grinder and an espresso machine and spend ~20-40 dollars/month on coffee beans

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>>20997474
>Tamping harder won't have any negative effects on the coffee
A'ight, bet.

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>>20997169
>Please note: this coffee has partial parchment attached, some minor insect damage, and quakers.
>$72.16/kg

>>20997856
https://ptscoffee.com/blogs/meet-our-farmers/juan-diego-de-la-cerda-finca-el-socorro-y-annexos

>>20997595
out of curiosity anon, what other coffee have you bought

>>20997810
What grinder?
>>20997818
When you alternate between enough straight coffee and milk drinks you can still taste complexities. Milk can help mask that a shot has been over/under extracted for most but it will not mask the difference in quality.

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>>20997886
So how much does this guy's unblemished product cost?

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>>20997955
Auctioned for $31/lb for a lot of 650 this year. Last year they won the CoE so it went for much more. It all depends on the lot. The stuff minmax has is straight from the farm so who knows what they paid.
>Sourced from: Direct from farm, through Bill at Hydrangea Coffee Roasters

>>20997462
>do you even notice high quality beans in milk drinks?
yes

>>20997993
is it worth the 4x price difference though or is it retarded using specialty coffee in milk drinks unless you're mr money bags

>>20997915
I will only tell you if you promise not to tell me to get something better, I simply cannot afford it right now. Promise?

>>20998014
I promise to give my honest opinion.

>>20998007
try it and find out
obviously you are going to taste the coffee more the darker the roast OR the less milk you use.
i pay i guess $60/kg on average and have milk drinks 3-4 times a week.
in my experience you just have to brew black and taste on its own(after dialing in) and then you will know what its good for.
well maybe not someone with an unrefined palate but for me i dial in during that process understand how i should be brewing the beans and what kind of drinks i should make.
i guess at the end of the day you have to understand that specialty beans will always taste better no matter what kind of drink you make with them.

idk i often find people have really extreme feelings about milk/sugar in coffee or specialty coffee.
like yeah if you drown that shit with milk you will lose flavor and complexity and depth but that just means you have to learn how much milk to use.
or the type of sugar used depending on the coffee.
"milk dilutes/mutes/makes coffee worse" idk sounds like user error to me.
think it like EQ'ing music.
milk can cut the highs down a bit, make it not peak anymore.
sugar can raise the highs and drown out the lows.
or it can just totally change the flavor profile, a bit of high quality panela can totally change the notes without making it necessarily "sweeter"
instead of making latte and cappuccino try macchiato and cortado.
sorry if this is rambling and incoherent

>>20998014
Kingrinder p2 for $30 on aliexpress. 1zpresso q air for $40.

>>20998020
>>20998042
Well I make espresso almost exclusively right now, probably until I move houses. The D54 is pretty good for espresso right?

>>20998049
Df54 yep. In fact I just bought one after being handgrinder exclusive for many years.

>>20998040
Definitely rambling. Milk does not drown out highs it complements them. Sugar however definitely drowns out complexities and depth with unnecessary processed sweetness. I do prefer macchiato's and Cortados to have a nice balance though.

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>>20998053
I feel better about buying it now, I haven't yet because I'm procrastinating

>>20998049
Ye.

>>20998063
>unnecessary processed sweetness.
>or it can just totally change the flavor profile, a bit of high quality panela can totally change the notes without making it necessarily "sweeter"
fucking kill yourself.
infact you should live stream it so i know you have done it.
fucking retard.

>>20998077
>>20998063
sorry anon, im having an extremely bad day.
im lashing out and unfortunately it hit you.
i apologise for what i said.
i was trying to answer a question i wasn't prepared to answer and it ended up being a mess that hurt more than it helped.

>>20998049
DF54 is solid, you can look up videos by coffeetubers (Hoffman, Lance, etc.) who all agreed it is the best budget grinder.
Since it's flat burrs it really good for pour over too.
Cons: grinds a bit slower than its big brother (DF64) and there are fewer choices for burr upgrades (and you have to open it up and tweak the internal to switch the way the burrs rotate)

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sssssip

>>20998063
>milk does not drown out flavors but sugar does
What do you think makes up 5% of milk dumbass

>>20998123
Do you know the difference between natural and processed sugar anon? Do you know natural and processed sugars taste different? Do you know there are many different types of sugars? Like sucrose, fructose, lactose and galactose?
Table sugar is like 54% sucrose and 46% fructose? Do you know Sucrose breaks down in the mouth first?
Finally, do you know lactose (the sugars present in milk) have almost no sweet taste? I bet you think all types of fat are the same as well dumbass.
>>20998113
I wish you happiness anon.

>>20998150
I know enough about sugar chemistry to understand that lactose tastes sweet because half of it is glucose. This (sweetness) is generally accepted to the point of being in the first paragraph of the wikipedia article of lactose. I've had a direct mouth-to-mammary connection since I was a newborn. Try developing your palate on something like a juicy east african natural then we can talk milks.

>>20998173
It's broken down into glucose yes. Please do look up "sweetness levels of sugar" or hell just type "is lactose the least sweet sugar?" And report back.
Then tell me lactose has the same mouthfeel as other sugars to prove your point.

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>>20998113
I'm sorry you're having a bad day.
>>20998114
>>20998075
I'll buy it today. I will force myself to finish filling out the order page which has sat open for six hours now.

>>20998150
>Finally, do you know lactose (the sugars present in milk) have almost no sweet taste?
...have you never had a latte/cortado/cappuccino/etc.? steamed milk tastes pretty sweet

>>20997991
>$68.34/kg
Cool, cool. Thanks for the info.
Funny that so much of this high-grade coffee is going to East/Southeast Asia where they prefer darker roasts.

>>20998207
Why do people do this?
Yes it's sweeter then not adding anything. I'm not disputing that. I'll even give you the steaming process actually breaks the sugars down making them even sweeter.
But I'm saying comparatively, putting milk into coffee vs dumping a load of much higher level sweetness in processed and refined sugars by itself destroys a coffee taste wise rather than complementing it.
Just go to Starbucks at that point.

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>>20998264
>almost no sweet taste
>ok it's kinda sweet
dumb troll

>>20998277
>Banana's contain citric acid and so do lemons therefore they have the same level and taste the same
Just plain dumb

>>20998277
the OG comic always cracks me up

>>20998295
>automatic rifles are much deadlier than handguns, therefore handguns are relatively safe
Now that we've both represented each other's arguments with bad faith metaphors we can get to the crux of whether pure sugar or milk masks the nuance of coffee more. For me it's milk, because of the sugar *and* the fat.
>captcha: khvvdw

>>20998250
Onyx and cometeer bought the whole lot another year.

>>20998192
If I were you, I'd wait for the V2. Just buy the headlight you need unless the grinder is on a really steep discount.

>>20998519
When is the V2 due? Having new headlights would be nice. I only need one more and I'm done.

>>20998571
>When is the V2 due?
I don't know. But judging by the other DF grinders, the V2 will iron out many of the kinks and potential reliability issues of the current model. Just something to think about if your money is needed elsewhere at the moment.

Just bought a french press again. This one is double walled and one better not break after a month this time.

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>>20998634
Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?

>>20998615
Thank you for this. I will keep it in mind :)

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Anyone tried Wonky Coffee (formerly known as Wonky Ones)? They're cheap and I like the idea of a lucky dip. I get the idea of dinged capsules, but I'm not sure how they've applied their business model to whole beans.

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Hmm…slurries

>homer_simpson_drooling.jpg

>>20995397

Best electric gooseneck kettle available in the U.S.?

>use cheap electric spice grinder (blades not burrs)
>coffee comes out looking like tiny gravel, all kinds of shapes and sizes
>make it in my mokka pot
>mmm tasty
>one day have idea
>go to coffee shop like 15 feet from my apartment
>ask the lady there to grind some of my beans for me in the actual proper grinder they have, one step coarser than espresso as the mokka pot is ostensibly meant to handle
>make it in my pot
>coffee is now sour
Uhhh…. Okay… i get there are a million unaccounted for variables but it was genuinely awful, i didnt pack it in and i brew off sight so it never burns, i have no idea why it was so bad. Sure the coffeehouse grinder probably wasnt cleaned but i have espresso from them regularly and its great so its not like its full of rancid grounds

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I've been mixing coffee with orange juice and it's surprisingly decent. It was weird at first but tastes better as I got used it. Tastes like grapefruit but better.

>>20999220
>I don't bother to actually work anything out
>now it tastes different after I changed one thing and didn't bother to actually learn anything
Wow! What the heck!? No offence dude but are you the DSP of coffee?

Should I get an espresso machine or just stick with my Aeropress and make filter coffee

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>>20999125
>1 month drinking the same coffee without problems
>made 1 this morning
>stomach ache and reflux since

It do be like this sometimes, isn’t it?

>>20999351
>isn’t it?
indeed indeed
happened to me this morning too.

>>20999351
You got comfortable shitblogging and flew too close to the sun.

>>20999494
I think it’s because I ate a lot of onions last night for dinner and I got punished for my gluttony for I have a soft spot for caramelised onions everywhere

>>20999509
is he ok?

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I'm down to 25 percent of my Blue Mountain bag BUT the Gesha is coming early though apparently I have to wait two weeks before using it(might have a cheeky half cup anyways because I'm impatient) Can Gesha truly dethrone it? How can a coffee that has the profile of tea beat a smooth cuppa?

>>20999589
It's 7-14 days ashully and that's from after it's been roasted.

>>20999590
And I'm roasting it when it comes here, Anon.

>>20999592
Actually wait no I'm not I got the French Roasted style(that's not actually a french roast), got confused for a bit because Gesha was listed on the unroasted part of Minmax.

>>20999594
You really should look into Homeroasting, it's way more affordable in the long run.
>>20999337
Depends how much you willing to spend on an Espresso Machine

>>20999337
>get an espresso machine
An espresso machine is worthless without an espresso grinder

>>20999589
You're drinking second wave meme coffee. With milk.

>>20999615
Every road in this fucking general leads to paying thousands of dollars for a slightly better cuppa

>>20999632
So what? I'll see if your precious Panama blows my socks off and I'll wait the fourteen days - should be easy for a consumer of the lowly second wave, right?

>>20999633
yeh nah

>>20999634
As a flavor averse consumer, you're probably going to hate it. Much as a Natty Light drinker would hate good wine.

>>20999644
Already preparing excuses, I see. I'm gonna give it an honest shake down, but your pissy little comments are not helping

>>20999652
I didn't rec you this coffee. Didn't even post the link. I bought it for myself and you latched on. Just letting you know its not going to be a smooth, mellow, flavorless cup. I don't give out good cigars to people who smoke the finest American Spirits either.
>but that fruity shit ain't even close to JBM. Lacks the smoothness and the body

>>20999633
Espresso is expensive. Literal minimum price of entry is >600 dollars (DF54 + GCP)

>>20999659
Calling JBM "Natty Light" is disingenuous, and you know it. I know I'm the "naive new fuck" and you're the "gatekeeping asshole", but a little civility wouldn't hurt.

>>20999668
>Literal minimum price of entry is >600 dollars
nah

>>20999212
oxo has one for about a hundred bucks that i liked
i have a fellow kettle and dont think its worth it

>>20999671
Slot in your own brand of
>wonderfully blended and balanced American-style lager
Its just an example. People who love lagers or pilsners may not enjoy a gose or an american sour.

drinking coffee

>>20999337
depends if want filter coffee or espresso, you fucking dunce

>>20999589
every jbm coffee i see is medium to dark roasted and the "issue" with that is you lose a lot of origin characteristic the darker you roast. one point i constantly encounter with people new to specialty is they don't like the acidity that comes with lighter roasted/specialty coffee. which makes sense since most people start with dark roast store bought and/or starbucks type coffee which has zero acidity. so jbm seems to be a step towards specialty quality without going too close (acidity) and shows people that coffee can be much better than what they previously realize. hopefully the gesha shows you that there's more to coffee than jbm

also the floral flavors are what really make gesha so special, the tea profile mainly refers to how "thin" the coffee feels in the mouth. some varieties have a thicker mouthfeel than others which is more apparent when you cup multiple varieties side by side. so expect floral notes, a thinner cup and more acidity than in your jbm.

>>20999712
specialty coffee is not synonymous with light roast

>>20999731
correct, but the majority of specialty coffee is roasted much lighter than a generic dark roasted coffee

specialty coffee can be roasted dark, but like i said you lose those specialty characteristics the darker you roast. i've posted a dark roasted gesha i had in an old thread. what made that coffee special was the roaster was able to retain the characteristics of the variety and origin at that roast level which is very difficult to do

the jbm crowd would probably like that coffee

>>20999799
I unironically think they're the perfect market for quan's asian profile shit. Japan buys most of the world's blue mountain. They roast dark, that style has trickled out into the region and been honed into its own. Its not a coincidence you see places like the taiwan coffee development association buying these high end CoE lots.
https://arp.coffee/

>>20999259
I tried it multiple times multiple ways you cock goblin, do you have anything useful to say?

*ahem*
I said... drinking coffee

man fuck cofee

>>21000132
hot

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>>21000132

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>>20999828
posted this before in an old thread, but here's that gesha

i've got an 1zpresso j-max, are there any electric grinders at around 300€ that grind as well as the j-max? i'd like one for the comfort but i won't sacrifice quality for it. making espresso primarily.

>>21000499
df54

>>20999668
aeropress at most is $150

>>21000610
Aeropress is not espresso

>>21000626
debatable

/ctg/ is by far the gayest thread on /ck/

^
Rude.

>finally find citric acid powder to descale my kettle
>$25 bucks for a bag
nigga

>>21000720
I use white vinegar, dumbass.

>>21000720
you dont need much
got mine for like $5/8oz

>>21000648
It's by far the comfiest general still alive

>>20999703
>>21000118
same

>>21000746
honestly think it's one of the best coffee discussion boards on the internet

>>21001086
beats home barista dot com
i feel like the average age of the users over there is like 58.

anyone else move their hips in a circular motion while taking a piss as if your toilet boil was a v60??

>>21001192
only if i take a shit first.
>shit
>kinda gravely(need to grind finer)
>stand up
>v60 piss the shit
>flush
>water goes right through gaps between the shit
>shit doesnt flush
>have to dump shit in the bin
>take out the trash

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>Have an awful cold
>Any cold drinks hurt
>Get better
>Make cold brew out of spite.

>>21001403
full video of gif source?

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>>21000720
>Mfw pic rel is the premium/boughie "climate neutral" brand in my local store
You're getting ripped off man. Have you at least checked stuff like Amazon?
Also as >>21000722 said,white vinegar or vinegar concentrate work just as well, though citric acid is nicer to portion and store imo.

>went to Dubai
>go to a few cafe's because my girl likes coffee
>I didn't like coffee
>Woah this is pretty decent
>start liking "Spanish Latte" that's sold everywhere there
>actually like straight espresso and americanos there too
>come back to America
>try to get into coffee here
>one local roaster in my small town
>try them out
>the most sour vinegar ass espresso pulls
>go to 7brew
>decent Americano
>Go to starbucks
>eh alright Americano
Nobody here does Spanish Latte and I want to support local business but these chains just wreck the local brewer. How tf do I get into this drink

>>21001405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OALIUJ-yie0

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It was 7 days after the roasting period, so I got impatient and tried some of the Panama Gesha(Don't worry I put the rest of the beans in a vacuum sealed one way release valve so the degassing will continue for the next seven days.)

It's really not coffee as one imagines coffee. Taste is super fruity, at times it felt like I was drinking a hibiscus tea. I always meme that you can drink JBM black but you could and SHOULD drink Gesha black, otherwise you'd have sweetness overkill. I'll try again in 7 days when the beans have reached their optimal degassing period but uh... don't really know how to rank this. It's definitely different, but I think I still prefer Blue Mountain for its more robust body. Who knows, I'll try again in 7 days

>>21002045
Now you see why I called it meme second wave.

>>21001697
>Spanish Latte
its espresso, milk, and condensed milk. You could get all 3 at any grocery store.

>>21002087
I mean, I'm not sure if I like it more than JBM, it's very much a different kind of cup. The plan was to serve some to guests over the holidays but it's definitely not smooth like JBM so I might just save it for myself. Gave a sip to the wife and she retched at it but she swears by Donut Shop K-cup

>>21002045
>JBManon is a Fatlus
Just when I thought that xer posts couldn’t get any worse

>>21001709
tyty<3<3

>>21002151
>swears by Donut Shop K-cup
And how does she feel about jbm?

i am NOT drinking coffee
i AM drinking some cascara tea(infusion, its on topic)
got a new teapot, its still steeping.
the cascara has been sitting on my shelf for like 2 months because i havent had anything to properly brew it with.
hopefully this brew works out
:)

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Mamma mia fratelli nuovi chicchi, Eccellenza Espresso, brasil guatemala vietnam 70/30 blend.

>A total immersion in the art of living in Mediterranean countries Made from the finest Brazilian and Guatemalan Arabicas and a Robusta from Vietnam, this Italian-roasted Eccellenza Espresso blend has a rich, powerful aroma and lends itself perfectly to a traditional espresso.

Tasty thic syrupy espresso. I've been experimenting with it for the last few days and have settled on 90c as opposed to my normal 93c temp 18g in 36g out 28s. Much smoother richer and balanced.
Body and the texture is proper thick almost like molasses. Tastes of nice chocolate, nougat and brandy. A real pleasure. Would wake you up from the dead, i've been sipping on 2 or 3 per day and it's a great pre-ride stim.
A nice contrast to the late afternoon Queromarca. This whole kilo costs less than the 250g Queromarca. Really puts into perspective how different these two cuppas are.

>>21002179
ayo this shit pretty good ngl
much better when brewed properly.
at first it tastes kinda foul
like prunes and sultana's that have gone bad.
but then it fades and the taste kinda reverses in age.
like going from a fruit that has gone bad and reversing its age to when its fresh again.
and so each sip is going from off to ripe as it goes down.
pretty interesting. and because the last flavor in your mouth is of a ripe prune/sultana it makes you want to take another sip.

>>21002171
She doesn't notice the smoothness or any of the sweet subtleties of it. She liked the PNG a bunch

>>21002167
I picked up an unopened Persona 3 and Persona 4 for five bucks at a Gamestop and flash forward three years its the most popular thing ever.
>>21002179
We do have a /tea general/ but they mostly push Pu'ar for lesbians

What coffee do you guys use for Irish Coffee? I tend to use bottom shelf for Irish Coffee since between the whipped cream and alcohol it's not like people can taste the difference

>>21002230
>We do have a /tea general/
i know
but cascara is coffee cherry.
:)

>>21002236
Anything that isn’t burnt.
Whisk[e]y + Irish cream + whipped cream would cover up any nuanced coffee flavor

>>21002243
man i made way too much tea.
1 cup and im totally full up.

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>>21002151
>it's very much a different kind of cup
that's what's so great about coffee jbmanon. glad you liked your gesha, i'd recommend trying a high altitude sl-28 next. if you can find a chiroso it has a pretty full body and a smooth mouthfeel so i'd imagine you'd enjoy a cup of that. i've never had jbm so i don't know how it'll actually compare, but still think it's worth trying at some point.

pic is hawaiian gesha in nursery

>>21001215
based

>amazon increased the price of the moccamaster select in black by 70€
it's fucking over

I DON'T want a piss yellow moccamaster
I DON'T want a tiffany turquoise moccamaster

>>21002372
altho a turquoise is way better than a bright yellow or a piss stained yellow

>>21002372
is there no chrome moccamaster?
i dont mean silver or brushed metal
i mean like mirror finished chrome.

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>>21002393

>>21002395
sigh...
if i cant have my dream. i guess i will take the orange.
(its the same orange as my coffee table)

>>21002393
the polished silver is pretty chromey
the orange is not bad
the red metallic kinda slaps
but I will take the cheapest price on amazon. but they went up
the yellow gold one was also cheapest a day ago

Budgetboys you're up.
https://youtu.be/RPngI8M8B1s

>>21002541
Bambino+df54

slop2

I'm primarily a tea guy but i do enjoy a cup of coffee now and then, especially if it is good.
I just wanted you to know that. Cuz coffee is good.

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>>21002557
Ye

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any recommendations for cafes or roasteries in Japan? gonna be in Tokyo for a week and Osaka for a day or two

what's a good guide on judging if a coffee is good or not? as for tea it's something you can see in the leaves and just googling brands in general. but what abotu coffee? what place grows good coffee? what brands are good?

>>21002669
the hoff has you covered

>>21002669
>>21002672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9YnLFrM7Fs

>>21002669
https://youtu.be/liGwcuFyaNY
https://youtu.be/O9YnLFrM7Fs
https://youtu.be/T9F3x7hU5O8

>>21002676
danke schön freunde

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God damn this 120hr natty wushwush is poppin.

I love adding spices to my milk

>>21002809
what spices?

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>>21002837
Small pinch of this, it goes really well with these beans. I don't do it in fancier beans or black coffee.

>>21002546
I wonder how long until the bambino is knocked off its perch as the number 1 budget machine. I'd like to jump ahead a couple of years just to see if prosumer machines innovate or stagnate.

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>>21002541

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>>21002860
>no cardamom

>>21002953
I have cardamom separately, would it be worth adding a tiny bit next time? (to these spices or on its own)

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is going with an ugly color moccamaster the right psychological play from a minmaxxers perspective?
think about it, you see the color, your mood alleviates pre emptively before sipping the java itself, further boosting your caffeine (and perhaps sugar boost)
the psychological effects of colormaxxing, praising the sun in this case, cannot be understated
I think I discounted this vital aspect
feng shui maxxing

>>21002960
Yes. Grind it with the beans and try on it's own and with these spices see what you like best.

>>21002972
i would NOT buy that color

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>>21002983
ferrari yellow
I am simply looking at what is the cheapest ones in stock on amazon
but the more I ponder and cope, the more I started to realize the underlying wisdom behind it all

>>21002997
how much is the difference between the cheapest and the color you want?

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>>21003000
I mean they price raised the black 50€
I'm not paying 50€ more for nothing
there is also the turquoise
or I will wait
but unironically colors are kinda good ngl

huh grind it? what are you gay?

Timemore 078s
Yes or no?

>>21002997
giant spring onion in your coffee?

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Have you guys tried this?

>>21003646
I've got some pepe in the freezer.
https://youtu.be/4DByszyK5F8

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>>21002666
anyone? i know satanic trips are scary but help me out here guiz
i know some australianon here has ordered jp cof, i would love a rec

ahhh
'offee
:)

>>21004036
Never been to Japan but there's the super old school kissaten Cafe de L'ambre that invented the pelican kettle.

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>>21003675
How was it?

broke my hand grinder this morning...

>>21004071
You still have your foot grinder, right? Anon?

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>>21004071
Bro, your trunk grinder?

>>21004083
that shit looks fake as fuck

>>21004036
Kurasu was the place I ordered beans. They were OK. Not good enough for me to spend the money on again, there's better shit here. If you're over there explore! I always see miata owners visiting cute cafes in Japan that are hidden away and it looks so nice. I'd probably go on google maps and just scroll around clicking on places near where I'm staying and visit whatever piques my interest. Where are you going? I'm jelly.

no one here lives in or travels to japan
sorry
the internet is probably more useful than anyone here is going to be.

>>21004093
Well yeah anon, it's a drawing

>>21004128
thats a painting actually.

>>21004036
Glitch and leaves.

>>21004176
Touche

>>21004075
no that's gone too
i've lost everything

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>>21004374

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>>21004036
mi cafeto is cool, the guy who started it is probably the only japanese guy named Jose

>>21004066
Bangin. I need more sidra in my life. That entire farm is like 10 acres in a 1500masl cloud forest. They only grow sidra, gesha, and mejorado. The dankest (rapidly disappearing) terroir and the dankest varietals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_forest
https://perfectdailygrind.com/2023/09/typica-coffee-mejorado/

>>21002972
it could be a pretty cool accent piece depending on the rest of your kitchen

>>21004761
>>21004761
>>21004761

>>21003467
No

>>21003497
yes sir

the moccamaster matte BLACKed select came into stock on amazon again for the same price as the yellow
I see stock selling out again
have to wait a fucking week for that shit to ship too, how the fuck are they so slow? I thought prime garbage was gonna be fast?
wait a fucking week for coffee to save 60 eur?

>>21004755
I'm a man, I don't care that much, really

>>21004441
What is this from, anyway?

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>>21004705
Noice