so i'm figuring out sizing for some iron rangers and i did all the brannock shit whatever, and it works out to a size 7. is that typical because i'm usually a 9 or 9.5 in a flat canvas shoe (vans, converse) and that seems really small

i can't try anything in person so i'm relying completely on the numbers / other reference shoes

>>18269030
you can't size in person but you managed to get a brannock sizing?

>>18268376
The blacksmith muleskinners seem to be out of stock atm, but the iron rangers are still available.

>>18269030
That seems to be too much. I went a full US size from my sneaker size, but I'm guessing most people would be fine going down half a size.

>>18269031
have a device

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these indonesian lasts will never not be funny

>>18269041
>i'd like one order of the finest ballsack leather boots please

>>18268962
brown boots w yellow laces and yellow heel loop? tf retard gave this the green light

>>18269041
Look like the wearer is severly overweight

>>18269038
Can I borrow it?

>>18269038
Can’t tell left from right

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based or shitty sneakerboot
~/<$200 europe if you ahve anything better, can have a more classic look or be black

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>>18269050

>>18269053
Fuck wrong post>>18269041

>>18269055
Thanks

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>>18269044
just the average Filipino (did not finish college) physique

>>18268962
>doc shitans
>not doc shartens

theres a dark spot on top of one of my oro mocs it looks like oil? anyway i cant get it out and inm too autistic and wanna get it out. any other tips besides op?

>>18269038
>>18269055
I ordered one of these too. Problem is my mind is so powerful that it can literally alter the fabrics of reality. I can basically be a 9,5 to 10 brannock depending on what I want to be. I ordered a pair of boots but felt they were too snug so I decided to bite the bullet and actually buy a brannock device which then showed that I should be wearing half a size bigger boots so I ordered half a size bigger boots but then when I got them they felt too big so I went back to the brannock which then showed I should be wearing half a size smaller boots(original size). Don't even get me started on widths.

Having such a powerful mind can be a curse at times. I just wish God had put some of that power into my dick instead

>>18269114
oil stains are almost impossible to get out completely, the best you can do is to immidiately wipe it off once it happens and rub some spit in to get the lingual lipase to help you out a bit
cleaning with soap and water can make the stain a lot worse by spreading it out over a larger surface and it doesn't get much lighter
talcum powder can absorb some of the stain if you leave it on for some time, avel (the parent company of saphir) makes an oil stain remover in spray or liquid form called hussard, any other leather degreaser probably does the same thing, but if it's set in deep it won't make much of a difference anyway

What are good brands for Desert Boots? I need something for the summer. and now may be a good time to snap them up on sale.

>>18269114
baby powder on the oil stain can help

>>18269160
OG clarks

guidi

>>18269160
john lofgren has good ones, because they actually have a shank
absolutely never on sale and pricey

astorflex greenflex is good for the money and there is a sale on them somewhere
no half sizes

>>18269163
>OG clarks

Clarks just caused me some major seethe the past week. I bought a pair of their Alwin cap Chukkas even though one boot already started to crease while trying out in the store, relying on being able to bring them back after the dumbe sales bitch promised me that.

Wore them a few hours at home, and had a fucking seam rip plus more creases and the soles already started to frazzle from just walking around on even wood flooring.

When I tried to bring the shoes back, the same dumb bitch told me I had already "worn out" the shoes, so im 130 bucks out of pocket.
Went to get my first Red Wings everr after that because I am done wasting money on cheap shit instead of getting something that will last me 10+ years.

tl;dr: Clarks is chinkshit now

>>18269184
They got bought out by chinks and now prroduce in Asia. Look it up, its true.

>>18269188
>not buying the og and instead some nu bullshit
you get what you deserved

>>18269090
Wesco Mr Lou

Can I get a recc for decent work boots that have a leather insole and actual lugs. I can't have crepe for this job.

Stitchdown would be preferred over GYW.
I thought the African rangers would be perfect but they don't have lugged sole

>>18269204
I just realized the razorbacks had lugs.

I really don't want a padded collar on them or whatever the term is. But if nobody has any other reccs I guess I have no choice but jim green

>>18269191
>good boots start at $300

Yeah, I now learned taht lesson the hard way. I expected the usual shit boots that last a year or two at least, but Clarks just took the cake by having them last 30 minutes instead.

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Do you think a White's Chukka is worth it at 325 bucks?

is it true the new ir are inferior to the ones prepandemic in quality/materials? are their mocs the same? thanks

>>18269231
yes

>>18269231
No.

>>18269231
Why not?

>>18269237
The OG models are still fine. It's the newly released models that are having QC and materials issues. Like the wedge sole IR they just released apparently has issues with the insole, etc.

recommend a leather belt i dont want to drop 100 bucks tho

>>18269255
amish ones on etsy

>>18269255
>i dont want to drop 100 bucks tho
Stop being fucking poor. At most you have to buy 2 belts in your adult life. 100 bucks isn't much to ask. If your want to shop at Walmart, why bother posting here?

>>18269255
Yoder Leather Forever Belt

>>18269041
surely theyre on the wrong foot

>>18269090
>I'm unemployed rn
>Best shoe or boot for me?
is called get a job
retard dropping $400 on shoes when hes unemployed

>>18269160
astorflex

>>18269090
Grab some secondhand RW engies from Japan. Should be between $150 and $300 depending on the seller. Then if you still have some cash, get LL Bean mocs. They may be chineseum, but they punch above their weight class

>>18269300
>people aren't always unemployed by choice. i'm dealing with health problems right now. i'm violently ill about 1/3 days.
yeah but go easy on stuntin on the hoes till your moneys up?

>>18269305
Bro you try too hard.

>>18269305
You need to do psychedelics

>>18269202
There's gotta be something better or at least comparable to Jim green right?

I just need lugs and leather insole and some sort of real welt so it lasts and can resoled.

>>18269304
I don't really wear mocs, but if I had $400 to spend on some I'd either save another $350 go with Russel Moccasins (the backcountry boot is the alpha and omega of moccasin) or pocket $300 of the $400 and go with LL Bean anyway since mocs are inherently beater shoes.

>>18269324
I recommended them because for many it helps them set their priorities straight, but looks like you're immune

>>18269324
>jim green sells a work boot with lugs you know right?

Yeah basically just the razorback. But its ugly as hell. Padded collar gets too hot. Their "work" boots have the "tyre" tread. Not aggressive enough it's basically just a normal wedge tread. If I have to pay to upgrade the insole too then ehhh. Hoping someone has a different route to go. There's gotta be something else I just am not finding it.

>>18269329
They seem to either destroy egos for most but for some it highly inflates it. He clearly is the latter. These types always lie about their number of experiences and dosages too. This dude hasn't done multiple thumbprints, cmon. Probably split an 1/8 if shrooms with his friends and freaked out when he was 17. Kept listening to Tame Impala and Shpongle for a few years without touching the stuff. Now he "got the message and hung up the phone" but still brags about how many psychs he "used to do"

>>18269339
We aren't the same anons. I don't ever reccomend psychs to people. They should have stayed in the underground where they belonged. Gardening on salvia is classic. I enjoy salvia a lot more than mushrooms myself. Can be scarier but it feels more like you've jumped to a different plane rather than your current one becoming warped.

>>18269334
I've always been curious about psychedelucs, but I know there's something terrible lurkingbin the deeps of my mind and I'm terrified of releasing it. I don't know if I could deal with it.

>>18269255
You jut gotta know the right person

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Alright, tell me who's objectively the best bootmaker of all

Who makes the best m43/boondocker and also offers EE widths?

>>18269453
if you're predisposed to mental illness don't do them. if you must and you suspect you could be, wait until you're 40 if you're male. specifically because if you're predisposed to schizophrenia you're very likely for it to manifest in your 20's-30's but less likely as you age, extremely unlikely after 50. psychedelics can DEFINITELY trigger you go to schizophrenic i've watched it happen in real time before, and i have to wonder if it would have ever manifested in people who's mental illnesses get triggered by a psy experience.
psychedelic users are very shilly and will downplay and lie to you about the risks.
"set and setting is everything" and this includes your mind.
"guise i just discovered psychedelics a few years ago and i think EVERYONE should do them" is a common experience for newer users who haven't really been around long enough to see how abruptly they can destroy someone's life and mental faculties. you just saw it earlier in this thread from some zoomer thinking his little sub-5 years of experience trying to shill it on me when i know for sure there's no way he has 1% my experience with them. i know several people who lost their marbles for life from a single shroom trip or whatever. mdma acid dmt can trigger it too. schizophrenia and bipolar seem to be the most common when it happens.

>>18269257
i got an amish one from ebay its on special for 55 bucks with 10k purchases and 100% feedback.

>>18269054
Urban wolf club or golden fox. Although they might be a little bit more expensive but have a look
>>18269160
Jadd shoes. It’s stichdown and they have a shank. I’ve got their desert shoes that I use for the summer and they’re alright. The boots seem like they’re the same >>18269462
White Kloud is really cool imo but best of the best? Depends on your taste

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Single row of stitching or double row as pictured here? Planning to get Vibram 700 soles so it'll be a fairly sleek boot.

>>18269231
mabye

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>>18268962
Tlb Mallorca. Looking to take advantage of the current mto sale, can't decide what I want, chukkas, Galway cope boots or split toe derby...

Anyone here have tlb's that could share pics? How's the size? At least some models seems to run slightly large?

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>>18269597
I have TLBs and they're very good but the artista lasts are very dressy.
I followed their size guide and it said UK10 and it's correct, normally I'm UK10.5 in most other brands.

I own a pair of chukkas and black captoe oxfords from them, both on the artista rounded last. I just ordered a pair of dark brown suede chelseas on the madison last which is not artista and kinda round and more casual, let's see how that turns out.

lads what lace colors look good on red wing heritage boots (that’s not just dark brown)

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>>18269597
L&T has a really good Galway cope boot, MTO costs about the same as TLB on sale.

>>18269604
What boot and leather?

>>18269606
Can you do custom width on Lof & Tung MTO?

>>18269609

red wing blacksmiths, copper

>>18269610
dunno, they don't mention anything but maybe they can work smth out, email them.

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>>18269563
the fuck is this sole

>>18269632
i've seen topy sole protectors like that dont know what its called though

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>>18269204
I am looking to get a pair of both razorbacks + african rangers. Does the leather midsole really make that huge of a difference?

>>18269567
i think the double row suits the logger style more, but if you want sleek go single
it's also about proportions, if you wear size 9 or below, never go double row, because it looks like you're wearing dive fins

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>>18269453
i wasn't making it up when i said i know several people who were predisposed to mental illness and had a single use of psychedelics trigger it. here's the guy i was talking about's bathroom. he has a 9 year old and an 11 year old living in this environment. he did shrooms once after a divorce (he initiated) then decided his kids don't matter only parties and having casual sex with strangers. he uses psychedelics and ecstasy about 5 days a week now. this is a clean cut dude, 6 figure earning programmer and he lets his kids live in trash and filth. this pic was a few days after we made him clean his bathroom can't find the before. he's the full time caregiver for 2 pre pubescent children.
trust me i speak nothing but truth and from far more experience with psychedelics than some random anons in a boot thread could ever have. i'm not going to incriminate myself but i'll say two of my thumbprints were accidental, use your imagination.

also note that i shared this story before you asked about psychedelics. nuff said.

>>18269682
thank you for these insights into being a lowlife
you have a blog anywhere?

>>18269686
>anon asks question about something serious and life changing
>gets answer
problem?

>>18269679
I agree on the aesthetic of the double row but
>it looks like you're wearing dive fins
That's my concern. I wear a size 9 and the double row doesn't look bad on my work/hiking boots because they have v100 soles on them. The finishing on the pair I want looks pretty tight, I don't think I would have a lot of excess shelf but maybe it's better to be safe than sorry.

>>18269690
yeah, go single with the vibram 700

>>18269612
I think you could pull off a subdued red or the tan and gold you're going for a very casual look.

>>18269470
>>18269682
Well, I suffer from chronic depression and took a handful of years of theraphy to learn how to deal with it. I've done drugs before (cocaine and pot) but never too much and I barely drink these days. There is however a tendency to mental illness on my father's side with at least one petson suffering a severe case of schizophrenia triggered by doing crack, I beleive.
Just one of the reasons why I've never done hard stuff before (other than coke a handful of times, I swore I would never do it again because I saw myself getting hooked to that quite easily).
Friend of mine used to do shrooms and talked wonders about the effect on one's mind, so that's why I've always bern curious but at the same time very wary about it.
Anyway, I think I'll stay clear of the stuff for the time being. Mind-altering substances and me do not work well together. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

>>18269090
ropertard "trolling" with his fake bullshit again

>>18269682
>>18269736
Exchange numbers and fuck off.

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Recently got myself a good set of boots. Still have some wax left over from my unenlightened days as a dr. martens user. Question is can i still use picrel to protect my boots from the coming winter or should i get something else?

>>18269855
what kind of boots did you get

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>>18269862
Red Wings Blacksmiths

>>18269867
in the copper R&T? you don't need to wax out of the box, best if you use light conditioners/wax to retain the highs and lows in the leather

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>>18269873
rough and tough, yea. I sorta figured they didn't need waxing right away, but i want to be prepeared. I live above the arctic circle and streets are typically salted quite heavily during winter. Would you recommend something like picrel?

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>>18269883
if you're looking to waterproofmax then obernauf LP, you'll need a gentle heat source to apply it properly but keep in mind it will flatten the variations in the leather

>>18269887
Thanks! I'll look into it.

>>18269752
Yeah, it's distracting from all the novel boot related discusdion.
Anyway, what do you guys think about thr whites semidress? I think it's a boot that doesn't get talked about enough here. Also, fuck nicks, amirite guise?

What are the chances the Red Wing Beckmans sell well enough they'll do EE sizes or will they be discontinued again?

>>18269923
>fuck nicks
what's the deal with nick's?

>>18269924
very slim chances, since the new beckman is on it's own different narrower last than the stadard IR no.8 last
i doubt they will produce a whole batch of EE lasts for one model

>>18269202
Frank's Patriot

>>18269567
IMO single, I'm short though, if you're tall get double row.

>>18269923
your butthurt is showing again

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>>18268962
Is it cringe that I want to buy real fur boots? These look so cool.

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>>18270016

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>>18269462
Gaziano & Girling

>>18269947
It's a shame, but it would be more of a novelty pick-up anyway. Having wide feet really sucks.

>>18269971
Good recc I forgot to mention I only want a 6 inch boot. 8 at the very most

>>18270016
>>18270022
hair on hide is based
that fake shit is not

>>18269923
what sort of novel discussion is generated by you coming in here writing up a whole essay pretending to be a cowboy on a farm, disabled "amerikanji" ethusiast or some other weird elaborate fantasy?
what's next? astronaut that had his PNW boots melted off on re-entry and now needs a cheap recommendation?

get out of here

>>18270053
Is there any specific reason?
I did not want a 10 inch boot before I got them and then once I did I realized I was fine with it.
If you're worried about the time it takes learn how to speed lace.

>>18270083
I can speed lace. The reason is I bend down a lot for my job and it's also very hot in the summer.

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this new washed chromexel from horween seems very reminiscent of red wings oil slick leathers
maybe since it's tumbled there won't be so many issues with clicking

>>18270223
this is kudu but worse imo

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>>18270223
I hate how it's been pulled so hard during lasting that the texture is gone on the toecap. Also that bulbous nose over the welt.

>>18270072
>be 40
>change go through rick -> techwear phase
>get over it, get back into how i used to dress
>sold my boots for cash during the last 10yrs and wore orthodics and lost weight so i'm a brannock size smaller
>have my other shit
>market has changed a lot
is it really hard to believe? lmbo.
i do have a pair of nice oxfords rn. i need casual shoes or a boot.

>>18270072
https://j-fashion.fandom.com/wiki/Amekaji
amerikaji's just a more anglicized way of saying it either's correct.

>>18270275
>lost weight so i'm a brannock size smaller
it is hard to believe, when you post ignorant shit like this all the time

>>18270168
If you have the money you can get a standard customizable boot and customize the height to 6 inches.
I'd recommend rough out lowers and smooth leather uppers, and to use their work leather.

Every single pair of Goodyear welted boots I've had the insole curls up and they're unwearable within 6 months at best.

This never happens with stitchdown construction. GYW is such a meme I'll never buy a pair again. Image trusting glue and a canvas strip to hold together your boots. Gemming is a scam.

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>>18270301
>I've had the insole curls up
Curls up how? Got any pictures?

Holdfast goodyear welted(or whatever you want to call it) is best construction method. Prove me wrong

>>18270072
dilate

>>18270301
skill issue

>>18270305
I'm never gunna rotate. Rotating is a cope. And unnecessary with stitchdown.

>>18270307
Dry your bots properly. Use shoe trees.

>>18270315
No. I have stitchdown boots so there's zero reason to.

>>18269933
Nothing. It’s just a meme in these threads to shit on Nigs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOT6amJRjN4

Nah that’s wild

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Chelsea Boots below 300 €? Is Meermin worth it?

>>18270617
the honey vibram is way softer than the regular 100, walking in this will always feel lopsided and it's going to wear unevenly
not that it matters since this is just novelty anyway

he also doxed himself on the package

>>18270823
Cole Haan.

>>18270617
this is peak bootbrain

>>18270617
When you spend too much time on the nigs plebbit

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>>18270617

>>18270823
I've heard Meermin is good but can be a little stiff

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Any decent alternatives for alden mocc bluchers?

>>18271041
what's wrong with them?

>>18271120
They cost a lot of money

>>18271123
save up

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>>18271041
carmina has something

>>18271109
>a whole day of googling later
you're wasting your own time proving nothing, ropertard

>>18271041
I think I have seen similar shoes from Grant Stone.
If you're fine with going much dressier look at TLB Mallorca

>>18271185
Nvm I guess Grant Stone doesn't have anything like that.

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a limited "zebra sole" from dr. sole delamming like crazy
it also just shows that these ww2 repro raw cord/cork filler soles are just worse than standard 100% rubber

>>18271207
Where the fuck are people getting these things from?
It's obviously for aesthetics not for function so the person how bought them probably doesn't really care and will just get them resoled.

>>18271207
who could have thought that layering the material in the most retarded way possible wouldnt work

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>>18271210
the boots are japan exclusive from phigvel and this is a custom resole job
someone paid good money for this

>>18271266
Yeah I just don't think whoever bought that has the same mindset as you do or almost any American boot enthusiast do.
No American would custom order these, their standard corded rubber soles are great and are nothing like this and have no problems like this.

Someone show me some great boots to buy, please

>>18271207
>cord
more uncomfortable, less durable, worse traction. Only retards would take them over full rubber soles.

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>>18271321

>>18269041
looks like human leather from leatherface's fall collection.

>>18271332
Those are nice ks0k0

>>18271346
yeah
grant stone

I know you people generally do not seem to like Indonesian makers but what about Jakkrabbits? Are they lower or higher tier among the Indos?

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>>18271321

Why do my feet smell like shit after one day of wearing running shoes. But they don't smell at all with leather boots even though the insole is still foam?

>>18271374
poly shit vs leather

>>18271378
Yeah I just figured the polyshit insole would still stink but it doesn't seem to

>>18271363
low tier, especially with the domestic leathers.

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just letting you know that my feet never ever smell

>>18271374
leather breathes and the bacteria doesnt like it
its like a wooden cutting board vs plastic

>>18270617
i can't make it through, does he ever say how much it costs? that's so many fucking kilties.

>>18271374
A surprising to some, but famous to others, property of leather footwear

>>18271363
I would not say Jakkrabbits is higher end, they have a very unique look that is very distinctively Indonesian and not the best patterns of lasts.
Tahura is very good and Onderhund is considered the best. But you have to be very specific in what you want, don't leave anything up to them, if you want a single midsole specify that.

Asking again cuz there's gotta be more options than ugly jim green that's not an expensive pnw boot.

I need a stitchdown work boot. Soft toe. 6 inch. Not a crepe sole need lugs. Those white softer lugs would do. Bonus for leather footbed.

>>18271481
Midas/Winston up there too, Renav is OK, but thats about it.

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>>18271363
closer to the bottom
>shit lasts
>celastic over most of the toe, when structured
>the domestic leathers are terrible
>the "imported" leathers also somehow terrible

>>18271518
"""horse"""
lmao

>>18271503
>Midas/Winston up there too, Renav is OK, but thats about it.
Yeah

>>18271410
Same. Even if I haven't showered for days, doused in stale sweat and smell like ass, my feet hardly smell.

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>>18270016
i'm still a little bit upset with myself for not hopping on the yuketen shearling boots when they were in production.

>>18271481
onderhoud is not that much better than the rest, that it would be justified dealing with their outlandish lottery ordering system

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>>18271503
renav is a hard pass, too many QC issues
>unstructured NST lmao

>>18271496
How many times do we need to teach you this leson old man

>>18271496
You're not going to get better than a Frank's patriot, your best option is to take it to a cobbler and have them cut down to 6 inch boots.
Drews which is not as good as Franks and is made in Mexico has an 8 inch boot with Vibram 100 and a 6 inch boot with mini lugs.
I've tried their 6 inch boot and I was not satisfied with the fit and finish and returned them.

>>18271581
>counter cover
oof

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Copping tomorrow

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>>18271648
post pics when you get them

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>>18271677
just for you senpai ;]

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>>18271714

>>18271714
>im wearing all black so im fashionable
lmao

>>18271721
He gave you a lot of easy targets, you somehow missed them all. This site can't even roast a guy anymore.

>>18271721
it's not a bad look maybe just standard? the boots are really thick looking. are they hidden platform?

>>18271722
you doun understand my personal crusade against all black
>>18271723
>it's not a bad look maybe just standard?
pfffftt

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honk

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>>18271496
Jim Green Numzaan comes with a leather footbed and has a lug sole option, much less ugly than the Razorback too imo.

You can also custom order any combo of their leather/uppers/soles/footbeds and it's still probably cheaper than a PNW boot

>>18271714
This is how I feel when I wear my PNW boots, it isn't to stop me though the comfort is unrivaled.

>>18271732
Isn't going to stop me*

>>18271730
>You can also custom order any combo of their leather/uppers/soles/footbeds
desu at one month lead and around $300 with leather footbeds why arent people jumping on this for utility
its blowing pnw out the water for work boots

>>18271738
>its blowing pnw out the water for work boots
Because people are discovering the benefits of a high arch.
I like my Jim Greens, but Tbh I barely wear them now but I am starting to again with the Nigs insertable delta arch.

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>>18271745
if god wanted high arches this would be your foot

>>18271730
This is what I'm lookin for. Thanks

>>18268962
Ordered the new Thursday Challengers because I like setting my money on fire and I'm curious about how close they can really get to that PNW style on that price point. We'll see whether they are decent when they show up in a week or two.

t. Owns a pair of captains from 3 years back that are mad alright, a pair of White's that are definitely much nicer but cost twice as much.

>>18271749
>if god wanted high arches this would be your foot
The high arch benefits people with collapsed arches the most.

>>18271753
Should have gotten a frank's patriot.

>>18271730
How do you know it comes with leather footbed. On the website it just says "insole board"

>>18271757
Frank's Patriots seem nice. I definitely don't need a 10" boot though. I'm not a firefighter or a logger, so that 10" height just kind of seems gratuitous.

>>18271729
Wait till you see my car

>>18271777
You get used to the 10 inches immediately, the deal is so good it's worth getting trust me.

>>18271807
>You get used to the 10 inches immediately
I doubt this very much but you might just be gifted

Frank's boots are all for homosexual clowns.

>>18271810
AS long as you wear some medium thickness wool socks that go to your calves it's fine imo.
Plus the patriot leather is more flexible because it isn't from the shoulder it's from the back.

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The 3sixteen boots are restocking in a few weeks, but will be toknexpensive for me with customs n shit.

Any alternatives looks wise (black, higher, square ish) and construction wise (gyw)

>>18271041
off the top of my head rancourt and quoddy if you are a yank, paraboot (?) if you are a yuropoor might be a bit to boat shoe core for your taste though

>>18271879
they are riffing of john lobb i think, which will also be way too expensive

>>18271858
>wooosh

Will be getting a pair of Red Wings tomorrow, likely the Blacksmith. I'm having trouble deciding on a color - at least from looking at images online. Probably going to go with Copper but I'm wondering if I'm sleeping on the Briar or Black Prairie? The black looks interesting as it ages but I would want to sometimes wear them with (khaki) chinos and that might not look great. The briar looks great but I maybe too reddish, and not as varied as it wears.

Also might just end up getting IR in amber or muleskinner.

>>18271982
I've got irs in amber and are very happy with them, to the point it's one of the boots I wear the most. Copper was a close second choice but ultimately I liked amber better. Don't know if they're currently offering blacksmiths in copper.
The muleskinners are cool but veralk less versatile so I wouldn't get them as my first or main boot -so to speak- unless you're 100% sure those are the ones you want.
Bottom line is you can't go wrong with amber or copper since both work well with khaki chinos.
And as for irs vs blacksmiths, it depends on how you feel about the captoe, that's up to you.

>>18271816
Explains why you have 8 pairs

>>18271581
that's pretty bad, i only did one order and it was good, probably one of the best fitting indonesian lasts.

>>18271858
He was calling you a homogay friend.

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horsehidebros its over

>>18272353
I own a pair of shell boots from Enzo Bonafe does that count as "horsehide"
Should I throw them away

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Howdy partner

>>18272353
love how he thinks fat streaks inside cowhide are identical as grain on horsehide

>order greasy Solovairs despite the warnings
>they send me the hi shine ones instead (the box says greasy)
>have to go trough the return process and print shit and pack it and lose time out of my day
>not even a sorry from them
I should have listened

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>>18272353
I'm at minute 5 of him repeatedly showing the creasing on his engineers, I've already lost count on how many times he's shown the exact same boot.

>>18272363
are you at ram ranch?

>>18272394
>someone decided to get the greasy instead
>they swapped them out
>returned them
>solovair didn't even check the boots
>they're going ro contest your refund

should have listened

>>18272418
welcome to every single almost vintage style video

some 30min disjointed tirade, which is just an excuse to show his entire collection all over again
you have to watch him ramble on forever about 50 different things, just to find out he never actually makes any definitive statement on the main topic

summing everything up with
>it all depends
is such a meaningless cop out

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>>18272394
post the misaligned tongues when you get them

What's the EU equivalent of Grant Stone?

>>18272488
meermin but they're slightly worse

Last boots I bought were my Indys in 2021
Are boots still crazy expensive and have they gotten worse or has the market gotten better?

>>18272525
>Are boots still crazy expensive
Even more
have they gotten worse
Some brands have

>>18272509
And little to no availability on wide widths

>>18272525
Nothing will ever get cheaper

>>18272564
>>18272652
Then what's the fucking point anymore?

Cheaper alternatives to Viberg’s Service Boot in black?

>>18272652
Blame the fucking jews

>>18272670
save up

>>18272662
To wear good supportive boots that look good and feel good.

>>18272466
If he's not, that's a disappointment.

>>18272687
No point wasting that money anymore
The goodyear welted shoe industry is at a point where USA made isn't worth it anymore
I got my Whites for 400 bucks and even then I winced when I paid for them. They're over 720 now. That's clown world shit. USA made is such shit value now there's no point. Just get Grant Stone

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It’s the grim reaper knocking on the door meme. Turdsdays already killed the PNWs. Now they’re coming for RM Williams.

>>18272691
I don't buy Turdsday out of principle. Has nothing to do with them being shit or not and their prices
Just won't buy em, simple as

if those thursday turds sell i pray grant stone buys some 55 lasts and puts a bullet right through the heart of the pnw

relax

>>18272740
>relax
I can't. I want more boots but they're not worth it anymore

>>18271760
I'm a sperg and have consoomed a lot of their media. That boot is double-lasted with a leather lasting board (the footbed) then a leather midsole which you can see in the pic.

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they look like 2030s but retarded

>>18272891
Doesn't look too bad. At least it's not a complete copy of all the other service boots. The brass plate is fucking retarded though

>>18272731
If Grant Stone sells a 55 last boot with high to medium arch support, I’ll actually buy it as a casual pair

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>I seriously lucked out and got one of my grail boots, some water buffalo Jim Green African Rangers off of Mercari!

>>18272926
Damn, four years old and already into leather boots, that kid is going places.

>>18272926
why does it look like that ;<(

>>18272926
Ew

Just ordered a pair of Jim Green rangers in my Brannock size. Tahnks for reading my blog

>>18272926
>cuffed jeans with a HUGE cuff
>green laces
>five different colors in just this single photo alone
not jim greens fault here

>>18272926
this is the worst thing I've seen all day

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>>18272891
nice sole separation after only a week of wear

>We go over these with a microscope before shipping
-smowe (Owner of Nicks Boots)

dude asks about paying out of pocket for a factory resole in the comments and gets told they won't do the brass insert for him when doing the heel again, only new boots get them
jesus these guys are cheap

>>18272926
>these are the people shilling jim green

>>18272926
Ah yes, the giant chode last

>>18273249
>they won't do the brass insert for him when doing the heel again,
lmao. why the fuck do they bother in the first place then?
not to mention this guy is going to destroy those soles in another week. the toe is already worn pretty noticeably

>>18273249
Nobody looks at their boots anymore. The Whites owner admits he just doesn't have time to check custom orders like he used to, demand and production are both too high. Either way, the cuck should throw a shitfit about it and call the bank when/if they refuse to make it right. At least White's will still ship you a new pair if they fuck up that bad.

>>18271982
Pecos > Blacksmith > IR

Simple as. But if you're getting blacksmiths, go for prairie. Teacore + khaki is a great combination

>>18272926
I say this as someone who is basically in Jim Greens 85% of the time I'm outside (A pair of Shoelllies for casual use and a pair of Razorbacks for shitkicking, both very good ime), I don't understand why the African Rangers has so many people basedjacking. They're ugly and meant to be as affordable as possible but turned into some kind of meme phenomenon.
I'm not the Jim Green shill that shows up periodically on here and /out/ for what it's worth.

>>18272891
what the fuck? the sole is coming apart after a week?
what brand is this so I know to avoid them?

>>18273424
nicks

>>18273431
lmao if reddit disappeared so would this shit brand

>>18273444
>two weeks
>still "trying" to break in boots
>destroys the sole in the process
kek

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>>18273249
i was wondering how this could happen in an area where the sole doesn't have to bend at all and doesn't usually see much wear
how could the glue and stitching BOTH fail so fast? it's almost impossible

the anwser is so obvious now
the outsole is not stitched at all and the glue was rushed, usually you have to do two layers of glue for leather soles, since the first one completely soaks into the leather
at least the decorative tacks do something and prevent this from completely peeling off

holy shit $1,2k, people are getting robbed blind with this and the CEO is like
>oh well, that suck for you, we'll look into that for the future, not for you lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luru5xtyNOA

Drifter 3.0

Drifter 1 is still my favourite

>>18273471
Wow a fairly standard boot without retarded lineman patches or other shit

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>>18272926
>>18273422

The euphoric gentlemen on the Jim Green reddit custom order shit like black barefoot shoellies to use as 'formal' shoes kek.

They make comfy and well-built shoes for the price but there's no way around the fact that their lasts are fucken ugly.

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>>18273491

>>18273346
What is the limiting factor for White's / Nick's to not hire more people? With lead times that long, they are leaving money on the table not having more capacity. Is it
>not enough skill laborers in their area
>they aren't interested in growing capacity for whatever reason
>can't get enough of X raw material

>>18273510
handwelting is hard work and is the main bottleneck for whites

>>18273491
I can't deny the wide toe lasts are very comfy and functional. But it's a sacrifice of fashion for function, and redditors don't understand this

>>18273461
i assumed it was a blind stitch, but this is nigs, so i shouldn't be surprised if it's actually just glue and tacks because they don't know how to do a blind stitch.

>>18273510
Rising cost of living in the PNW is fucking up everyone who's not an expat web developer from cali.
Nobody wants to be a trainee for years in stitching boots when the salary can't cover expenses.

>>18273510
I dunno about White's, but Bakers said he just does not have the time to check every custom order anymore. That's why they had so many "final few" boots there for a long time and kept getting new ones, they were all fuck ups from Whites. I imagine it's mostly just the volume of orders and with higher volume comes more fuck ups. Couple that with a talent deficiency across ALL industries and it's just a fact of life.

I sent my White's back after they were the wrong leather and wrong height, but they offered to just let me keep them and ship me a new pair. Nick's likely would not do such a thing.

>>18273510
No one wants to make boots for $20 bucks an hour when rent is $2200 and groceries cost $150 every time. Not in a high cost of living state like Washington
And you only make $20 after 2 years when you're fully trained. You'll make $15 until then. It's just not enough to live on. No point when Costco pays $25 to fold clothes

>>18273532
I didn't realize the pay they were offering was so bad. That explains it, then

>>18273537
"Living wage" just means $20 bucks an hour or close to it. That's 41k a year BEFORE taxes
Only people that would do that job are boomers who bought a home when it cost $100k and their mortgage payment is 300 a month
Young people are not taking these jobs. American boot making (and pretty much anywhere in a developed country) will die out because they can't get workers

>>18273549
My guess is most brands will outsource production and a few will become small operations selling exclusive MTOs with a 18 month lead time and a 2k starting price.

>>18273586
Outsourcing is a hot potato as the countries we delegate labor to become lesser shitholes too. So all the shit stuff will also be more expensive

>>18273592
That's how industrial revolution works. There's plenty of shitholes in line to be the new China.

>>18273600
There's only 197 or so possible shitholes and we've already regulated half or more of them beyond where it makes sense to do any work there. We've done this in not that long too

>>18273586
There are small shops popping up here and there and are still one or two man operations. Those are going to be the places to get "nice" shit before too long.

>>18273586
if you check out some of their "how are made" youll see lots of mexicans doing this shit. who else would be willing to work for these wages?

>>18272690
I disagree, you bought Whites for $400 years and years ago and you can get a pair of Frank's Patriot today for $400.
Taking inflation into account you paid more in the past and even not taking it into account you paid the same.

>>18272690
>that last line
nice try xi

my brannock is about 8.5 or a little under

i wear 55 last in an 8e

what size redbacks should i order? they dont do free returns so i dont want to fuck this up

>>18271756
literally the opposite.
"arch support" is a meme.

>>18273858
Don't tell me you wear pedicure toe separators.

>>18273845
What brand's 55 last?

>>18269041
wowsers

>>18273722
If you're gonna hire mexicans you might as well move production to Mexico and pay even lower wages. Ditch the made in USA and label them as american made which will still be true.

I really like the design of these
https://www.onitsukatiger.com/jp/ja-jp/product/lace-up-boot/1183b826_001.html
But I'm kinda afraid of build quality

>>18271558
show feet

>>18273865
well my nicks are too tight. not sure if they shrank. franks fit much better but maybe a little long.idk how its the same last when the franks seem like an inch and half longer desu. i almost wonder if one of them messed up and mislabeled

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>

I really fucked up. I like my White's 350 cruisers and they are now my most comfortable boots, but I should have customized them to have a 7 or 8 inch shaft. I just don't like how the 6 inch sits on my ankles.

>>18273922
>generic cap toe boot #43497

>>18274254
Sounds like it's time for a new pair.

Do you guys clean the soles of your boots?

>>18274357
no
buy self cleaning soles

>>18274357
no, unless the edges count
first with an old toothbrush and then with a damp cloth

I love my Truman uplands in black waxed flesh. Got in on the MTO so no cap toe

>>18274461
pics

>>18274357
Only on my iron rangers, once in a while.

Do shoe trees ever expire? Like they lose their moisture absorption capabilities or something?

>>18274489
You can always lightly sand it

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>>18274466
About a week of wear.

>>18274503
nice

>>18274503
Pretty nice, which last are those?

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>>18274503
looks better without the chunky cap toe, good choice
some minor welt puckering at the left toe, but what can you do

does it have the new truman sole?

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>>18274503
its unironically over

>>18274539
>>18274539
>Expecting PNW boots to be cosmetically perfect
Go back
>>18274537
>looks better without the chunky cap toe, good choice
Yeah I hate the toe cap on Truman's. I'll put up with it if it's the only option but no way I was keeping it on an MTO. Especially since I need an EE width. And they're the new soles. I've heard they're kind of soft for lugs, but I can just swap them out once they wear down.
>>18274510
79 last in a 9.5EE

>>18274539
Mangled
To
Order

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>Introducing, Ravencrest, my Viberg Navvy boots. I named them as a nod to the black leather and the regal, bold silhouette, with "crest" evoking the sense of protection and strength.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM8yYC7jJVQ

what epic nicknames have you given your trusty boot companions?

>>18274633
(His Darkly Eminent) Lord Bootsy Shriketalon. Blood. Of the Saturnine Stars

>>18273510
Nick's literally lost half their staff to Frank's

>>18274624
kek

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will i look badass right out of vampire d or look like im trying to get rammed by leather daddies

>>18274686
>zippers
confirmed for gay
see now if you just got harness boots without the zipper it'd be a different story

How do you tell whether a boot is too tight or just needs to be broken in?

>>18274711
"It'll break in" is the biggest meme

>>18274712
that means if it feels too narrow now, it will not get better?

>>18274720
too narrow where?

>>18274727
>>18274727
NEW

>>18274727
>>18274727
NEW

>>18274727
>>18274727
NEW

>>18274726
squeezes my little toes a bit, other than that it fits perfectly

>>18274730
see>>18274731

>>18274490
Okay but do I *have* to?