>38$ white cotton tee editionGeneral discussion about all things denim, workwear, heritage and americana.And loopwheeled cotton white t-shirts too, I guess.Previous: >>18343652
>>18349770i look like this
>>18349770>that rodeo Japan model
/Colossal faggot general/. /Soft, feminine men LARPing as men with real jobs by buying overpriced engineers and heavyweight denim and flannels general/. This is probably the most pathetic general on 4chan
every bait post like this >>18349812 is made by the same guy. his ip address got banned and all his posts got removed at the same time from the last thread.archive: https://warosu.org/fa/thread/18343652
>>18349813ok but how is he wrong
>>18349812Holy based. I’ve never seen anyone other than denimcels wear niggerneers.
>>18349812And yet here you are 24/7
>>18349800It gets worse. Fucking Kingdom Hearts fit.
>>18349816Damn whoever that guy is really just mentally dominated you. You're in here acting like a schizo retard 24/7 LMAO
>>18349770BBC thread
>>796>>812>>815>>820>>822>>826>>828rugga is losing his mind today. mom (who he lives with) didnt give him enough christmas presents. the buck has been broken.
>>18349825where to cop?couldnt find it on lee's website
>>18349845No idea which model are those but I'm guessing it's similar to the Denver bootcut, which is low rise, slim on the upper leg and flares from the knee down.Failing that you can look for the levis 527 which is also a low rise, slim leg flaring from the knee down.
>>18349812>vintage/repro outdoors gear>vintage/repro sportswear>surplus/repro military uniforms>traditional menswear, ivy style etc>european heritage workwear>streetweary workwear (very in style rn)>93% of men own at least one pair of jeansyou don't need to dress like denim dan, coal miner, greaser etc every day to be a denimbro. you can if you want there's a lot of other lanes you can take that fall into the workwear umbrella, are adjacent to it or share the same 'high quality that ages well' traits which draw most of us to denim. >>18349825whoa nostalgia. that was the fit all the normies wore when i was in high school.
>>18349911>whoa nostalgiaSlim flared bootcuts were popular among indies in my country (and I assume a bunch of others too) sometime during the 00s. I, myself, had a couple of somewhat flared trousers, a pair of levis 527 and a five pocket corduroy from an unknown brand.
>>18349902i reverse image searched and found a japanese website. send a message to the email address at the bottom. hope this nigger replies
Guys, do you, and if so, how often do you, iron your jeans?
>>18349911this retard really made wearing grey sweatshirts and converse his whole personality lmfao fucking faggot
>>18349932>made his whole personalityyou default to thinking this way because you have no personality to speak of, and you're an inauthentic person. the way i dress is downstream from and reflective of who i am. i do home remodels, before that i did forestry, i'm an avid outdoorsman, kickboxer, musician, former coke lord and i'm a canadian born pnw native. the only thing that's even remotely larpy for me to wear is militaria. i was gonna enlist but changed my mind when we invaded iraq because i read a clean break. sitting on my hands was the patriotic choice.
>>18349932This is a pretty sad attempt at trolling>muh grey sweater!!! What a fag!!!!
This general has become so incredibly gay. It is probably 40-50% actual productive discussion of denim/workwear, with the remainder occupied by trolls. Sure don’t feed the trolls, but if a significant portion of the reply cap is occupied by stupid bullshit then it’s not even worth having these threads anymore. We can all agree that Reddit is extremely gay and has shitty style, but you can’t really argue against the value of having mods immediately banning you if you start trolling. There are probably a total of 4 total posters on this board with an actual good sense of style. Just let the denim generals die off. This board is completely done for. If you want actual fashion advice, you’re better off just following a bunch of influencers on IG, tiktok and YouTube
>>18349770I bought 2 Camber shirts for $80. They shrank to be too tight and then I lost them. 2 lessons learned. First - obviously order cotton shirts a size large, and two - don't buy $40 shirts because you lose them anyway
>>18349812The only thing more pathetic could be entering the thread to let us know you're upset. Lol
>>18350080I literally ignore the content of any post that doesn't have an image, or is a reply to an image. Works wonders. I only use this thread to discover brands and get ideas of what to buy. The "discussion" is non existent, nor would it really be engaging.
>>18350091Yeah, I had the same experience with camber shirts. I bought a cotton mock neck t-shirt from them a few months ago and the shrinkage was the least of my problems. The fabric was cut incredibly poorly. The bottom hem of the shirt wasn't cut straight. It was slanted to one side and wavy. The stitching was abysmal too. I could see that the sewing machine had veered off track in several places so they had to go back and re-stitch it a few times. Easily the most poorly crafted garment I've ever received. The fabric felt really shitty too. Even if it hadn't shrunk so much in the wash, I wouldn't have worn it. I would have felt bad to sell something that shitty to someone so I just threw it away.
Sometimes the fades from Samurais look kind of ugly, but when they hit they fucking hit. Finally pulled the trigger on some s510xx in their 21 oz. I’ve tried on some of their 15 and 17 oz jeans at self edge and wasn’t really into them due to how much texture and slub there are, but I’ve been told on multiple occasions that their 21 oz is not hyper textured like their 17 oz and that it actually gets really soft.
>>18349928I don't. Years ago used to because European, but read somewhere that americans laugh at europeans for ironing jeans. Also jeans look better if you hang them to dry properly stretched that ironing them. Plus it's one thing less to iron, so there's that.
Months ago I bought a pack of 5 white tees from costco for 26€. Honestly I'm pretty happy with them. The fabric is thick and has held the shape over a handful of washes. The cut is a bit subpar. They're too long on the torso and the sleeves for my taste. Nothing that can't be fixed with a pair of scissors, though. Plus the extra length helps keeping them tucked no matter how much I move. I think I'm gonna get another pack and adjust the length and sleeves for untucked wearing and warmer temps.Honestly I don't see myself dropping a hindred on a single white tee. I don't doubt it's way better, but at the end of the day it's just a shirt and I'm willing to bet tgey're well beyond the point of diminishing returns, that fat manlet from Vintage Style be dammed.
>>18349928only europeans and people who starch their jeans iron them. i starch some of my jeans, they get re starched creased and ironed every few washes. i really like how the crease looks picrel. >>18350193avs says that costco tees are his favorite budget tee shirt & he also said the cheap japanese tees are better than the $100 ones in his video. they don't make small sizes so they're not even an option for a lot of guys. $20-40 for a tee is no big deal to me for something i wear all the time that lasts me over a decade. i have some jap tees that are nearing 20 years old and still look pmuch new. >>18350080its 1 troll https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/rugga/https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/rugga/>Ruggadagod or Ruggarell AKA /v/ nigger is a morbidly obese gay nigger best known for spamming the 'cuck for over 15 years and for running a 'cord server that spammed the 'cuck with interracial pornography. On July 2022, Rugga got DOXXED by a SerBVLL. Interestingly, anyone that mentioned him or tried posting his dox got an automatic 30-day ban. This caused 4cuckers to speculate he was either a mod or friends with them. Although, most likely mods just wanted to not give him any attention. i think he's friends with a janny but not a janny himself because he used to ban me 50x a day nearly instantly when i posted -- but now he seems to have lost the ability to. that may be why he's lashing out.
>>18349928o also the trick for keeping your crease (if desired) is you run a bead of silicone along it on the inside of the jeans then iron it. its pretty permanent.
>>18349812guaranteed you look like the school shooter phenotype or the /pol/ subhuman they arrested
>>18349985Are those the red tornado baker pants? Review on whatever they are? Those big pockets scream euro to me but j like the color.
>>18350080>he doesn’t know about the new forums and telegrams for discussion
>>18350289they're the bronson / non stock ones.review: 9.5/10 the only negative to them is that they're only sold in one inseam and its kind of short. my favorite pants right now that's why i'm wearing them every time i post a pic. they're based on the wider fitting 1st pattern og-107's. i had a surplus pair when i was younger and comparing the fabric on the two, the bronsons are thicker and more substantial and feel like they border on workwear. but they don't quite have that amazing silken hand feel the surplus ones do. i consider the fabric equally good. everything other the fabric is the same as i remember. if anything less sewing errors lol. i think between bronson and red tornado they can be bought in every historically canon fabric -- herringbone twill fabric, non green colors, denim and chambray. 3 things to know:- if you don't have a gut i recommend sizing UP around 1.5" and using the waist adjusters to get a wider fit in the leg. that's how zoomies are wearing them right now and how i wear mine. - buy some olive green thread when you buy the pants. you're going to rip the buttons on the fly off and lose them if you don't re-sew them on with a shank. you have to do this on real pairs. i also recommend popping the waist adjuster buttons off and re-sewing them on exactly where you want for a perfect fit.
>>18349812This post struck a nerve.
>>18350287he looks like this. a few threads ago he had a meltdown and made legal threats because we were posting his micropenis. https://warosu.org/fa/thread/18319524#p18319543
>>18350301I got the red tornado og-107 and I concur about sizing up if you've got even a bit of a belly. Length works with me because I'm 5'10 archduke of manlets with a 32 inseam. I can wear them as is with the right ammount of break I like or do a small cuff with boots for that zeerust cyberpunkish look.
>>18350404nono sorry for clarity -- flat torso or a bit of belly = use the waist adjusters and size up so they fit you right in the waistbig belly or over all fat = don't use the waist adjustersthey fit really good on every body type its just a matter if you use the adjusters or not. if you plan to use the adjusters you wanna size up so the pants fit you right in the waist when they're in place. using the adjusters basically acts like having darts tailored into them -- the upper block becomes more tapered, has more shape to it, and the leg fits fuller because you sized up. shitty pic kinda shows what i mean.either way you made the correct move sizing up.
>>18350433No, I got my size and it's a bit tight at the waist. Not that I care much because I'm in the process of losing weight anyway.
>>18349815He is not
>>18349985>telling your gay life’s story in response to a low effort troll postI’m guessing you’re about 85 IQ. Maybe 90 on a good day.
>>18350450i know he's baiting. a guy who's done so little with his life that he can't even conceive that some of the people in the workwear thread have done manual labor before -- this is very absurd and very funny to me. then you throw in the fact he's a black naruto shirt wearing mall cop who lives with his mom and has a micropenis.. lmao.
>>18350433Also I just realized mine don't have size adjusters. Should have gotten bronsons, I guess, but these were on sale, so...
>>18350525no side adjusters are the 2nd pattern version of the og-107 which fit a little more tailored.>The two modifications to the trousers came in late 1964 and in 1975. First, in 1964 the jacket and trousers changed from “small”, “medium”, “large” to true measurements (i.e. “32×30”) and with this the waist adjustment tabs were removed.both are good and timeless. if anything i'd say the 2nd pattern is more timeless. just the wide fit's a little trendier right now is all.
How the fuck are you supposed to measure your waist size. Tape Measure shows 37in but if I wear anything thats a size 33 and up I need a belt. Am I missing something?
>>18350537vanity sizing.something labelled 33in could well be 36 or 38in actual.also make sure you are measuring the same spot that the vendor is measuring.also the no belt thing really only works for modern slim fit cuts.
>>18350532>no side adjusters are the 2nd pattern version of the og-107 which fit a little more tailored.Ah, that explains the tight waist and the straight yet not baggy fit at the leg.
>>18349812This post is so correct that everyone is seething
>>18349770What good denim brand would fit someone overly skinny like me? I need W25 or 26 but a lot of brands just don't offer that
You know what's really funny? Fighting over products that you can not see or touch. Had I a $75 t-shirt on hand, I could perhaps ascertain its manufacturial superiority. But physical stores around me do not keep Fullcount tees and Samurai tees. So I can only wager my money on a few pictures I view on a screen, and hope that Japanese tee is actually going to be twenty (20) times superior than the ones I can source in real life. This is why until then, until I can touch them, I'll make do with these beautifully clean-stitched loopwheeled made in Italy heavyweight cotton t-shirts that I got for 5 euros each (knowing where to look, of course).
>>18350689Do what works for you. It all just depends on whether you are willing to part with $50-100 for a Japan made loopwheel tee. I personally don’t care about spending that much on a t shirt if I know it’s going to be one of the best in the world. I’m lucky to live near self edge, so I can just go try these things on whenever I want. In my opinion, the best Japan made t shirt you can get are the Buzz Rickson government issued t shirts. It’s extremely comfortable, the collar is really nice, and the cut is arguably the most universal and balanced. The thing you need to look for with a t shirt when determining if it might be worth the purchase is not just the cut, but the collar. If the collar is not some beefy looking double to triple stitched thing, then it’s probably not worth purchasing. The collar is usually the first thing to go to shit with lowsy t shirts, so it’s definitely the most important structural component. In the big picture though, a t shirt is a t shirt. It’s not some super tight weave 14 oz iron heart denim shirt that’s built like a tank. They are soft pieces of clothing that will definitely wear out if worn hard. If you are wanting to get the absolute best price for Japan made loopwheel tees, buy directly from Japan whether that be from Bears Tokyo or by proxying through Rakuten
>>18349812dont you have another 100 hour workweek coming up?lots of shit to unclog!
>>18350732As I said, until I can witness with my own hands that the Japanese tee is 'more' than the ones I buy, I will never bet my money on it. Because judging from the pictures alone, the Japanese tee is not 'more' than the ones I buy. They're essentially the same thing.
>>18350744Yeah, that’s fine. Do what works for you>>18350744
I wore a flat head flannel today and it kept me warm.
>>18350689you're doing the thing people on /out/ do where they assume everyone lives in the same region of the world as them on a global online forum.that's sick that you can get pretty nice looking tees for $10 in italy. they genuinely look nice and i get why you'd never need anything better. but for most of us where we live $10 gets you disposable crap that dies in 2 wash cycles. see how your tees have properly attached double stitch collars? thats the most important part of a tee and you're simply not getting that for $10 in most of the world. here's what its like where i live: the cheapest tees you can find that aren't multi pack undershirts are $20-30 each because inflation is very high here and retail space is very expensive to lease. the yen is very weak right now. in my local market dish rag garbage tee shirts and japanese tees cost the same, about $20-30 each. >>18350744>Because judging from the pictures aloneyou would never judge a wool garment from pictures. you know hand feel is what matters i'm sure.those nike adidas brand type fake plastic leather sneakers look pretty good on the store shelf until you wear them and start creasing them.the budget side of the garment industry is a game of cutting as many corners as possible that aren't immediately noticeable when you try it on or look at online product photos. >until I can witness with my own handsvery fair. i'm not sure i would have gotten into jap tees if i didn't live next to 3 stores i can try them on and feel the fabrics in person. they all look the same and there's no way to discern the good ones from pics.>>18350681fuck man i'm blanking on what brands do 25-26 waists but i see them all the time on yahoo auc japan.i'm a 26 waist. i just buy 28-30 jeans, hold off on hemming, and use the washing machine and sometimes even drier to dial them in for a perfect fit. on repro fits you're supposed to size up like 1-3 sizes unless you want slim straights anyways. >>18350569samefagging.
>>18350689char limit. you also have to consider that culturally on the west coast in the usa wearing a tee shirt every day as your main shirt is the norm and few men wear button front shirts outside of professional settings. its just the local culture, its super casual over here. i get asked what's the occasion when i wear tucked flannels.when you're wearing a tee every day as your main shirt you represent yourself with spending more than $10 on one makes a little more sense. i get that tees are just layering pieces/undershirts/work beaters/grubs for a lot of the world. >>18350732>They are soft pieces of clothing that will definitely wear out if worn hard.they're definitely not going to last any longer than a carhartt k97 if you're using them as work clothes and such.but i have some jap tees in the 15-20 year range that still look as good as new. as long as they're ones you only wear casually and you use garment bags and gentle detergent/settings they seem to last forever bc the collar never goes bad. i know how to get pit stains, yellowing etc out so that aspect of aging is no biggie.
>>18350851The west coast is very gay
>>18350851Why garment bag your t-shirts? Genuinely curious. Captcha:4SWG
>>18350860eliminates that 0.1% chance of the spin cycle going gorilla mode on them but its pretty unnecessary. the #1 thing you can do to make your tees last longer is hang drying them. i commit a sin and use my tumble drier on mine occasionally.
>>18350853they all want to be down to earth steve job startup tech bros or kurt cobain. people dress downstream of their elites and our elites here go out of their way to be seen as "everyday joe" to a performative level.
>>18350901I hate having meetings with west coast people. They’re embarrass me as an American. The Nips dress nice, the Chinese brews nice, the euros dress nice, then the Cali fags wear short sleeve polo shirt, khakis, and dress sneakers.
>>18349812You go to these threads, the boot threads, all of /fa/ and you cry and cry and cry
>>18350193These are you need. Thick, good quality and good priceThey're too long in the torso which isn't as big a deal for me as I'm 6'2" but I know how to sew so I can hem them
>>18350946>They're too long in the torsoYes, but so far I use them as undershirts and tuck them. First tees that never get untucked no matter what I do. I think I'm gonna get another pack and hem the sleeves and bottom to wear untucked in the spring/summer.
>>18351147that tee's short because of alterations. they fit like this.>kirkland tees compared to jap teeshttps://youtu.be/WYL8sMSEaLw?t=1974>cheap collar that won't last>meh stitching>not as soft (but decent)>sleeves are huge and need to be cuffed/altered to look normal>reaaaallly long in the torso>tube knit>are they worth it? OH YEAH. for 10 dollars?! >if you REALLY feel like you can't afford a good t-shirt. even the $20 to $50 range t-shirts which in this day and age *grimacing* that's not crazy expensive. honestly people think that's a lot but that's like a cheap meal out. i concur all this and add on:>too long for many short guys to tuck w/o alteration>their small size is like a medium or large in jap brands and they don't go any smaller
that's looking at them from a fashion perspective though. as far as a strictly function/beater tee perspective its a tie between kirkland signature tees, carhartt k87's etc for best value tee.i think buying vintage tees off ebay and thrift sites is the goated cheap tee and blows anything made today out of the water. if you have time to sort through listings and shit. some are actually nicer than what japs produce imo. 80s/90s/00s are cheap. certain eras a lot of stuff will be polycotton because it used to be considered superior.little starting point to learn about vintage blanks:https://www.defunkd.com/vintage-t-shirts-103-the-brand-gallery/https://blog.commavintage.com/2019/01/30/a-guide-for-buying-affordable-and-ethical-plain-white-t-shirts-on-ebay-and-at-thrift-stores/
>>18351169>that tee's short because of alterations. they fit like this.That pic was just for ilustration purposes. I said I'm considering getting another pack and have a couple of them altered. I can't do that myself but mother-in-law used to be a seamstress and can do wonders to clothes.Also:>this shirt that's a couple of magnitudes cheaper than this other shirt is actually worseNo shit. So far Kirkland tees hit the spot for me. I use them as undershirts mostly, the length works, and I can wear a size L comfortably or a size M if I want them more fitted.
Hanes Beefy Tees are all you need. They are good mid weight cotton. Noticeably nicer than other random shirts I own. And $7 on amazon. Don't buy $40 shirts imo.
>https://www.adaysmarch.com/eu/heavy-tee-whiteI like these. Looks substantial and not like you're wearing translucent underwear. The oldest I own have taken daily abuse for over half a decade and are holding up very well.
>>18350836Nobody cares lil bro.
>>18349825Red Wings will always look like clown shoes
>>18350836Yeah I do see a few W25 or W26 on yahoo jp like for Iron Heart jeans for example but I don't really know where they get it; can't find it on their site. I wonder if there's counterfeit around this in Japan.Have you had good experience sizing down your jeans with the washing machine and dryer? I feel like it'd be very random and risky.
Anybody know a good pair of men's jeans that are straight legged, relaxed, and have a seriously high rise, like very well above 12"? 14" at least. I don't want to buy selvedge or any other "high-end" stuff that you can only buy one or two pairs of and have to reuse for days on end, I don't want to smell like Chinatown
Reminder that the Iron Heart 634 actually looks really good and you realistically would be happiest with nothing else
>>18351708Red tornado 55501
>>18351773Don't mean to be a Jew about it but I don't want to pay much more than $40-50 a pair, I like generic commercial prices. If you think the higher price is worth it though, I'd consider it. Might even finally try wearing jeans for more than just one day like a normal person.
>>18351776Nobody makes 13-14 inch rise jeans for $50
>>18351765You don’t look like him, you look like this:>>18349825Fucking pathetic faggot loser LMFAO
>>18351591you want denim military fatigues. nothing else is really going to have a rise that high with a wide leg. at least not in your budget. connors sewing factory, rick owens, and dawson make 501s with the fit you want but they're pricy. https://bronsonshop.com/collections/pants-trousers/products/bronson-mens-usn-us-navy-1917-1st-deck-tannin-denim-workers-jeanshttps://bronsonshop.com/collections/pants-trousers/products/bronson-10oz-us-army-m40-denim-dungaree-jeans-pantshttps://bronsonshop.com/collections/pants-trousers/products/ccc-dungaree-1935-us-army-fatigue-uniform-jeanshttps://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806208739172.htmlall these can be found on taobao for more like $40-70.>>18351776when you're buying super niche specialty things you're not the one who sets the price. >>18351591yes i have, but i've been into denim for a very long time and have a sort of sixth sense for looking at a fabric and guesstimating how much it can shrink. you might not even need to shrink your jeans if you're a 25-26" waist if you're going for the classic repro jeans type fit. most guys do not wear their true waist size in repro jeans anyways, its typical to size up a few sizes. if you go tts on a lot of repro brands they fit too much on the slim side in the leg for the classic look a lot of guys are going for. the only way you can really wear high rise jeans beltless and have them not stretch out too much is to size down which leads to the fit being too slim for what most guys are going for. of course this is all personal preference. point is i would probably just buy size 27-28's at your waist size and not even worry about shrinking them if i were you. just give up on the idea of the waist fitting tts on jeans that aren't low rise and worn off the hip its kinda a meme. having a wee bit of slouch at the waist band is worth the trade off for the better fit through the leg. if you were size 30 i'd tell you to buy 32. i don't think repro looks good tts.
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>>18351800I’m not reading that.
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>>18351773Where are good places to buy these?
>>18351832https://world.taobao.com/item/618959304755.htmhttps://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-red-tornado-55501.htmlthey're a 12" rise not above.
I just want my Black Sign Vocalions to get here bros
>>18351765That knee flare looks like shit
>>18351903knee darting is the most under-rated alteration among denim bros and i don't know why. if you live in a rainy area and don't wash your jeans all the time or wear anything slimmer than wide fit you're always going to get gnasty knee bags from the rain stretching the jeans out when you walk.
>>18351912How do you fix it?
>>18351912Do people not wash their jeans all the time? I wash all my pairs at least once every other week, I imagine they would reek otherwise
>>18351877Make sure to post some fit pics. I’d rock a pair, but I’m not sure if I could pull it off. They get the absolute best vintage looking fades out there
>>18351776I bought mine on Aliexpress during Black Friday. Paid 52€ shipping included. Got a size 36 and the rise was 34cm, roughly 13.4 inches pre-soak. Rise might be a bit lower on smaller sizes but I reckon not by much. Leg is straight and loose, almost baggy. They're better than anything you can buy at the mall in that price range. Get them or don't, is no skin off my nose. You asked for a rec and so you teceived. I beleive they check all your boxes.
>>18351964Denim and indigo dye are very antibacterial. Air them overnight and they'll take a long time to smell. You can wash your jeans as much as you like. As with any other garment, washing frequently might reduce the lifespan. But that shouldn't be a concern since all garments eventually become unwearable.I've been wearing my red tornados on an almost daily basis since I got them without washing and they don't smell yet. I don't do that with all my jeans. I'm just experimenting to see how long they can go without washing and regular wear.
got my tshirts from tezomeya, they're actually really nice and totally worth the price. I'll probably buy a couple more in the new year. Really nice fabric, construction is top tier and the colours are lovely.
>>18351938washing/shrinking the jeans can reduce knee bags a lot but once you have knee bags they're always gonna be there to some extent. knee bags are inevitable if you live in a rainy place. the only reason you don't see them on pre faded jeans as much is the people wearing those throw them away and treat them as disposable so there's just less time for a knee bag to develop.carrying an umbrella, or wearing wide fit loose jeans is the only real sure fire way to avoid it if you live somewhere really rainy.i think knee darts / articulating the knee might stop knee bags from growing as big or looking as 'off' when they do. never tried it on denim just a theory. i always assumed darts would look bad on a wide fit but i got a pair of wide fit + darted knee pants recently and they drape excellently. >>18351964>Do people not wash their jeans all the time?its never been the norm to wash your jeans all the time only really if you get them dirty. indigo is very antimicrobial and hides stains. think of your jeans the same as a wool garment. washing too frequently decreases lifespan but not washing frequently enough or never makes you miss out on many of the best aspects of fading like puckering.desk job guys who don't live in warm areas can go years and years with their jeans passing the smell test. asians with that gene that makes it so they don't sweat only have to wash when they get stains/mud/etc on their jeans.
>>18351877are they still on sale for the price you said you paid? and were they indigo or black on sale?i really want a black pair of those, they tick every box for me -- i really like how 1880s waist overalls fit on me they look amazing but 99% of them on the market are single stitch + indigo and once you have a pair or two of those they're all the same. and single stitch sort of sucks to live with.
>>18352140> best aspects of fading like puckeringWhat do you mean?>some Asians don’t sweat. What do you mean?>>18352081Aren’t most jeans synthetic blue dyes nkw and now actual indifo?>>18351964I wash once a season asides from my labor jeans that get washed more frequently. I also rotate through my pants.
>>18352230>What do you mean?https://www.heddels.com/dictionary/puckering/>What do you mean?ABCC11 gene>Aren’t most jeans synthetic blue dyes nkw and now actual indifo?yeah but both are chemically identical and antimicrobial. natural indigo is the same thing just with more natural impurities that lead to it having a different color.
>>18352079Alright, I appreciate the extra input, sorry if my attitude was bothersome.
>>18352081>>18352140Yeah, I'll go ahead and try out not washing often. I have some nasty BO from my father's side, but I might also just be too self conscious about it from childhood bullying
>>18352290Just wash them when they need to be washed because they smell. One trick is hanging them up at night instead of leaving them crumpled in a pile on the floor, really helps keep them from getting nasty. I used the hang mine over a fan at night but that's unnecessary unless you are trying to do the no washing for months at a time thing.
>>18352290i personally just do a sniff test and wash when they stank. even if they don't some of my jeans i wash monthly just for the way it fades. some fabrics lend better to vintage fading and washing a lot (slow faders) and some are clearly made with fast fading and not washing very often in mind. there's really no wrong answer other than: you don't have to wash your jeans every time you put them on.also wearing wool underwear goes a long way to stopping your jeans from stinking the same way wool socks keeps sneakers smelling fresh inside.
oh also i should say ignore what i said if you live somewhere really hot+humid. if your jeans don't ever fully dry out they're gonna smell if you go eternity without washing.
>friend's gf complements my wrangler jeans saying they have 'nice fades'>I tell her they were rigid when I bought them and they are real fades>she clearly has no idea what I'm talking about and thinks I'm saying rigid just as a way to describe how they feel when they are new>she says 'oh yeah I hate new jeans lol'>spaghetti everywhere I hate having to interact with normies
>>18352307Just don't. Power level should remain hidden most of the time.
>>18352289No offense taken. But seriously, I think the red tornado 55501 tick all of your boxes. And if they don't, they're cheap jeans that won't set you back by much.
>>18352307A magician never reveals the secrets to his tricks
>>18352307all my ex's have tried to sneak a pair of my jeans on their way out. always the same two pairs. i've offered to get them their own but nope they want my faded out ones.
>>18352328Let me guess. They were Red Tornado 55501s and the only critique you have is that their stitching is a little too perfect. In fact, the entire reason they dated you in the first place was because they were so impressed with your Red Tornado jeans!
If I wanted a pair of heavy slow-fader bastards, would I be better off with these Studio D'Artisan SD-801 natural indigo dyed, or with a classic pair of Momotaros?
>>18352220No, I bought them on eBay. And they're indigo
>>18352403no they always try to take my momos and og jb's.
>>18352403> the entire reason they dated you in the first place was because they were so impressed with your jeans!thats happened twice almost wound up marrying one of them ha
;_; i'm sooooo sorry i shilled the gateway drug brands like wrangler, round house, bronson and red tornado on the board that skews young and everyone complains about the price of everything. you're totally right i'm totally taking sales away from $300 brands by telling a bunch of zoomers who never paid more than $100 for a piece of clothes and tradies where to get their first hit. they're totally not going to become lifelong denimfaggots after their first pair. you're right.
how do yall store your pants? I've just been hanging them on plastic hangers folded in half
>>18352565I leave them in a pile on the floor
>>18352440I like momotaros denim more. They are probably comparable in terms of fading time
Got a pair of Sugarcane Okinawa jeans for Christmas. This really is the most versatile style/silhouette for jeans. I love my Indigofera Kain jeans, they fit me really well but the slim leg really locks you in to a certain style, I can't wear anything too bulky up top or it starts to look unbalanced. Won't be an issue in the spring or summer, but its more limiting when it comes to layering in cold weather.
>>18352623What do you like more about them, when compared to SDA?
>>18352565I just fold them in a drawer
>>18352565roll up in drawer or fold jeans backwards then hang by the side belt loops on a hook. heavy jeans that will deform under their own weight get hangers i modified to work like the hangers self edge uses. i just took some cheap metal hangers i had and cut the center out. picrel style of jeans hangers are better if you're going out of your way to buy something.
>>18352685Killer silhouette. I’ve pretty much been exclusively loving 1940s wide legs as of recent. Current favorite pair are my Fullcount 0105
Guys I think I had one too many glasses of prosecco last night... But my red tornados were out of sight...
>>18351765This cut is extremely gay. There are better ones out there.
>>18353329incoming mental gymnastics about how they just picked out the wrong size for the model and the cut is actually perfect (the ugly coping manlet is easily baited)
>>18351765>Front rise: 10.75"No thank you!
>>18353382ih is mids.
its crazy what working out and not falling for all the redditor memes can do to a nigga
>>18353597It doesn’t work on him because he’s a midget
>>18353618james dean was 5'6
>>18353647James dean had better bone structure everywhere. He's not quite getting what he's going for, but AVS' fits are usually on point.
Why is Resolute 710 never discussed? This brand seems to make incredible garments and excellent cuts.
>>18352685so you're like a cowboy downstairs and a boomer golf attendant upstairsidk dude pick one your shit's all fucked up
>>18353783That looks absolutely fucking awful. Stop posting.
>>18353943Woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
>>18353943Disagree.
>>18353783Garbage.
>>18354022What the hell is your problem?
>>18353783>Why is Resolute 710 never discussed?Serious answer. i really like the guy behind resolute and some of his other projects like the oxford shirts he makes are fucking awesome.Problems with the 710 and resolute jeans in general.They are based on 60s levi's detailing, paper patch, no concealed back pocket rivets, no stuffed belt loops, zipper fly?They are a slim cut, slimmer then actual 60s levisMedium - low riseThey use a nice vintage 60s style denim but it's very plain and not as exciting as some of the crazy denims other Japanese brands offer.That covers most of it with the biggest reason they don't get more love here being that they don't have a high rise or a more relaxed fit since that's what this thread is mostly into.
What's the point of selvedge denim and fades? Why pay 300 bucks to look like a fake cowboy?
>>18354052So you are saying they are approaching millenial taper, which we apparently don't like in these threads.
>>18354052No reason in getting a pair if there are countless other jap repros with actual leather patches, concealed rivets, and an actual good cut
>>18354061its fun and it looks cool. both things you probably hate.
>>18353597He looks awful in le vintage repro attire, but his knowledge on some of the higher end engineer boots is indispensable
>>18349825Why do "men" these days wear their pants so low? What kind of faggotry is this?
>>18354101It makes you look like a fag, which is probably what you're going for.
>>18354061>only cowboys wear jeansWhy zoomers such retarded faggots? Is this what happens when you grow up wearing nothing beyond joggers and shorts?
>>18354061Posters in this thread think that wearing niche denim is a replacement for a personality.
>>18354139>someone buys high quality niche item of hobby they have interest in>”b-b-but…he must be compensating for his lack of personality!!!”
>>18354061I like selvedge raw denim because the jeans are actually superior and more beautiful in every respect. However I do not understand the fetish for “sick fades” and fades in general. If they’re high-contrast fades (redditor’s muh sick fadez) the jeans look absolutely revolting and mummy-tier. If they’re more evenly spread (“vintage fades”) the jeans look no different from mall-shit jeans, with very few exceptions. I have yet to find a pair of raws that simply doesn’t fade or fades nicely. It’s almost like denimheads hate indigo, which is hilarious, given how beautiful and unique it is as a color.
>>18354148I cannot understand you, jeans with nice vintage fades look miles better than raw jeans fresh out the box. Dark jeans give off major fleet foxes mid 2010s vibes. Cheugy.
Anyone else remember seeing this picture a million times a day during the height of the raw jawnz and blue Oxford shirt era /fa/?
>>18354166Forgot the pic...
>>18354148There are purposedly slow fading jeans. You can also delay the fading by washing appropiately.
Any brands making good stonewashed jeans these days? Used to have a 90's stonewashed pair that looked great. I haven't found a pair of stonewshed jeans that hit the spot just rigjt, only shit light and mid washes.
>>18354183Not many brands make stone washed jeans anymore, the processing isn't "green" enough for the latest environmentalism trends.>>183541833sixteen makes fancy selvage stonewashed jeansRound house makes relatively cheap made in usa stonewashed jeans but they are very utilitarian styled https://www.round-house.com/collections/round-house-made-in-usa-jeans-dungarees-pants
>>18354169Ahh samurai 710s sized down 3 sizes. Truly the apex sufu 2019 meta
>>18354139Just like how you made seething about people wearing jeans your personality
>>18354159Idk, to me right looks like the ruined version of left. I just love the color and hue of dark indigo (it's not navy, it's not blue, it's not even dark blue, it's more in that middle ground between violet, grey, black and blue, with a touch of brown and even gold, something that cotton yarns that aren't denim, even if indigo dyed, will never be able to replicate) and on the other hand I tend to see a similarity between faded raws and the cheap jeans that the vast majority of people wear. I know the quality is different, but to me once they're faded they get closer to the normie look.>>18354170Yeah, I've heard about Momotaros being slow-faders. PBJ's NC-005 is also cool (a model that doesn't fade at all) but it's been out of production for years and it's impossible to find on second hand. N&F Forever Blue is not really an option in my eyes for the simple reason that they aren't blue.
>>18354198I'm with you in that I love dark indigo. It's indeed a hue that you can't get on anything but denim. I also tendo to try and slow the fading process as much as posdible. I've got a pair of 502 that look almost new after having them for years. However I also love the look of a properly faded pair, one tgat has been molded and faded with use and show the particularities of that person. To me they look quite different from mere light washes and artificially faded mall jeans.I beleive synthetic indigo fades slower than natural. Other factors might also influence the speed of fading, but I don't know much about that.
>>18354198Just buy hank dyed natural indigo jeans. The thread is dyed solid all the way to the core so they barely fade over time. Plus with hank dying the color is richer and the impurities of the natural indigo adds to the beauty.
>>18354192>the processing isn't "green" enough for the latest environmentalism trends.Heard something like that. I've thought about diy a pair with pumice stone but my wife said no way I'm putting stones in the washing machine.
>>18354210>I beleive synthetic indigo fades slower than naturalInteresting, I've heard people claim the exact opposite very often. Either way it's not a certain science, so you've got to try.Anyway I also can appreciate a properly faded pair, especially when the discoloration is even and consistent, as in the case of these Onis. When the craftsmanship is great and the garment is top-quality per se, losing the indigo can still reveal beautiful aspects of the jeans.>>18354212Yeah, that sounds like a good advice and I've been keeping an eye on Studio D'Artisan for some time now exactly because of that technique.
>>18354225>when the discoloration is even and consistentJeans that fade with use rarely have very consistent discoloration. Some areas have lots of friction and traction while others not so much. An example, my jeans tend to show fading outlining in which pocket I carry my phone or wallet. My left knee is always slightly more faded because when I kneel down I usually rest the left kner on the ground. My hips are slightly uneven and as a result my right knee is slightly shorter than my left, so the hem of the right leg frays faster than the left.I like stuff that looks goid while brand new but also ages beautiful with use, tgat's why I wear mostly jeans, boots and leather jackets.
>>18354212Can you explain the differences between hank dyed, garment dyed, rope dyed and slasher dyed?
Autistic incel schizophrenic freak thread. No one cares about your obsessive compulsive ramblings. Get a job.
>>18354148>I like selvedge raw denim because the jeans are actually superior and more beautiful in every respectI mostly agree with you on this. I don't mind fading but I vastly prefer the dark, uniform color of new jeans. But fading over a long enough time is nearly inevitable, my solution is just to buy a bunch of different pairs and spread the wears out so they fade as slowly as possible. I'm wearing my black Ironheart 888s today, I don't want them to fade to a duller black with grey peeking through.Need some recommendations, I'm looking for a pair of slubby jeans with a 12 inch plus rise for a 34 inch waist. Between my Sugarcane, Oni and Indigofera jeans I don't need any more jeans with lots of nep, I'd like to try something slubby for a change. I really like the look of this pair from SDA but the rise is between 11-11.5 inches depending on which store is measuring it. I know an inch doesn't sound like it would make a huge difference but I like how higher rises fit and look on me.
What type of color scheme is this?
>>18354148i like both but i highly prefer jeans when they're faded in and showing a broad range of that indigo color. the more destroyed the better. i'm not huge on reddit high constrast fades but i will point out they look a lot more normal when worn in 3d than they do laid flat in a 2d image.
>If they’re more evenly spread (“vintage fades”) the jeans look no different from mall-shit jeansnah no way. sanforized jeans have no character and the fades on mall jeans never match the person's body.
>>18354212these cuffs are atrocious. who the fuck goes out in public like this? I order my iron hearts hemmed right from the get go. cuffs are for HOMOS
>>18354423>I order my iron hearts hemmed right from the get go. cuffs are for HOMOSImagine hemming your jeans before you wash them a couple times to get the shrink out.
>>18354423looks like a pic from a smaller stockist. they run on pretty razor thin margins. if they hem the jeans its $200+ added to the cost of taking the model photos for every pair of jeans they stock. most of these places just have one of the employees, one of their friends, or a customer they give discounts/free shit to model for them.also doing an outward cuff lets the customer see the inside + outside of the jeans in the same pic.
>>18354362how often should you wash a denim jacket for vintage fades? im not a fan of this shit on the arms. im washing my jeans once a month so they shouldnt be too high contrast.
>>18354457>how often should you wash a denim jacket for vintage fades?its not just a consequence of washing, although washing early to get the starch out and frequently would certainly help with your goal. vintage jackets got most of their over-all fade from uv exposure (pic for example) but washing a lot would emulate that sort of. i live in a pretty low crime area sometimes i just hang my jacket outside in the summer. anyways a lot of the arms honeycombery is a combination of sleeves being overly slim, and then too long for the arms of the guy wearing them. ways to avoid it would be to look for very accurate unfucked with repro fits and the biggest arms/lowest arm openings you can find. and not wearing your sleeves too long -- it greatly exaggerates the accordion effect. cuff or alter your sleeves if needed.or just buy vintage jackets. they're really not that expensive especially non-levi's brands. i would especially avoid type 2's as they are typically extra slimmed down -- no one likes type 2's in asia so they're usually made with the western market more in mind.
>>18354457the fabric is also a factor but its hard to give hard rules on that -- light weight fabrics will crease up more on a slim sleeve but less on a loose sleeve and vice versa. and even if you have the ability to try on a jacket it can be hard to guess what the denim will feel like when you wash the starch out. i guess i'd look for a wide sleeve, low arm opening and a light to mid weight denim. and get a tailor if my arms were short.wide sleeves will sometimes comb if you're really active in the jacket but they'll get a shape more like this. if you look up vintage carhartt jackets in black/moss green/indigo a lot of them have that sort of fade on the arm.
>>18354358Reddit high contrast fades make 300 dollar selvedge denim look like those cheap jeans with painted on fades that thirdies wear.
>>18354198This is entirely a function of the millenial taper these jeans have. A nice all over vintage faded straight jean does not have this problem. End of.
>>18354193I remember seeing this pic A LOT during 2009-2012 /fa/ when I was just a wee lad and it permanently changed my life.
>>18354467>>18354468Ok it’s not that deep little bro. Quit yapping.
>>18354791OH I could just slap you!
>>18354289proof that's a samefag?
>>18353783I only wear resolute. I’ve tried other brands like samurai, sugar cane, edwin and warehouse but i think Resolute have an overall better fit. The guy behind the brand put a lot of effort in making the models fit perfectly and i honestly believe they do. The 710 is a little tricky if you have wide hips because they take some time to stretch. But when they do its the perfect fitting 66’ fit. I could go on and on about resolute but the general consensus here seems to be that they are bad, which isnt suprising since this is one of the worst boards on 4chan. Literal /mu/ tier faggotry
>>18349770Does anyone have experience with pic related? I can't seem to find any opinion about it online. I figured that for the price it would be a better entry level jacket than what Levis is currently selling
>>18354956In a couple months you'll wish you spent the extra $100 or whatever to get a nice selvedge one. Denim jackets last so long it doesn't make sense to cheap out.
>>18354969Makes sense to cheap out if you aren't interested in selvedge and are going to get plenty of time out of it anyways. Schott is notoriously overpriced and not worth said price anyways.
>>18354956Schott is known for their leather jackets, not their denim. Dunno how much that costs, but I'm sure you can find better stuff for the same price or even cheaper.
>>18354972>Schott is known for their leather jacketsAre they good tho?
>>18354976Yeah, at least their Made in USA. A bit overpriced if you ask me, but pretty good quality.
>>18354841Samurai’s s510 cut is one of the best fitting 60s repro cuts I’ve tried. That said, if you’re not into the textured denim then that’s that
>>18354937This doesn't prove he's a samefag.
>>18349770Is Gustin legit? They claim to make their jeans in America yet have stock pants that are $100.
>>18354998They're pretty well respected afaik. They definitely make them in America, no actual indication otherwise besides price. Plus laws about tags and material origins are stringent enough for jeans in America.
>>18354998So what? Tellason also makes stuff in San Francisco and it costs $100-120
>>18354148My Momotaros are 7 months old and have hardly even begun to fade. Love em.
>>18354998They are legit. They are a good brand to try selvedge if it's your first time. They won't hold a candle to Samurai, Momotaro, or Iron Heart, though.
>>18354212>Just buy hank dyed natural indigo jeansGot any recs besides SDA D01?
>634s stand directly in your path
>>18355146Wowoah, you work out? Based... So fycking based...
>>18354998They're legit for Reddit style millenials looking to get nice and tapered up
>>18355147You better watch your tone with me, boy. I wouldn’t think twice about popping your bussy
>>18355146dadbod
>>18354969What's a good selvedge for around 200 bucks then?
>>18355146Looks good, and lookin good
What's our stance on Uniqlo 50 bucks selvedge?
>>18355181Unbranded brand.
>>18355188Never tried it but everyone says it's good.
>>18355190I guess it's worth trying just for the price alone
>>18355146Gotta love muffins
>>18355198I'm not even that guy but what are you talking about?
>>18355198>anybody posts literally anything on this general>resident troll has to criticize a complete nothing He looks better than literally 99% of everyone else on here
>>18355200t fag
>>18354956you wanna avoid modernized type 3 jackets, the ones with handwarmer pockets, unless you have a really long torso. they just look bad.if you want an entry level type 3 go on e bay and get a vintage levi's one.look for 1970's era ones. see the pic i posted? if you find ones with a single stitch there it means its 71-72 and uses better denim more similar to the 60s era jackets. a lot of resellers don't know how to date these ones so you can find them for cheap with a little patience. there's also a lot of non levi's non type 3 gems out there. you can get dead stock blue bell maverick jackets for under 100 bucks on a good day. >>18355181tcb 60s. >>18355188i've bought it a few times over the years. qual's good. fit's a bit slim and mid rise. would really benefit from a taller rise.>>18354834its a mentally ill janny with a history of samefaggoting. he has the same script every time, pretends this is his first time posting on 4chan then starts calling you reddit buzzwords like schizo. if you're new on 4chan he's one of the best known and most recognizable crazies on this whole website -- this isn't the only board he spams. the stuff about him being a nig with a 2" dick isn't embellished, he's dedicated around 15 years of his life to ruining 4chan. undeniable its him after all the times he's chimped out mass deleted posts & nuked the general.proof he samefags:https://warosu.org/fa/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=missing+punctuationclick that and scroll down half way to where i start quoting him posting bait and bad medical advice in the hair loss thread. >same grammatical mistake repeatedly>instantly, repeatedly bans me for noticing said error>deletes half the posts in the balding general>deletes the denim general right afterhe spams most/all of the bait in this thread. very recognizable posting style. its a janny too.>>18354937>4chanx, inspect element, private tabonly a retard or the guilty would "prove" this with a screenshot.
>>18355200you've all seen his pics are you surprised good looking white guys with bigger dicks than him make him seethe? i heard rugga went on tranny hormones because his dick was so small but he couldn't even cut it as a troon. the only reason we have to put up with his yapping is he's too coward to pull the trigger and blow his own brains out lmbo. which i'm sure he thinks about regularly i would if i was a black fat nigger eunuch.
>>18355146lmao
>>18355240https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq22PnibLFM>Yeah, rappers, spread your cheeks>Pull your panties down, take your wig off>Let me see your bald head, that's right>I got you on Kodak, your pictures are goin' out to>Black Tail, you're gonna be a star, yeah>I heard you quit rap, your wife went back to porno flicks>You turned drag queen, a call girl doin' tricks>Nighttime prostitute kid, I'ma take your loot>I heard you queer now like Boy George blowin' flutes>With high heels, you stole your mom's birth control pills>You on some new stuff, I heard about that sex change>You got a vagina, your grandmother think it's strange>New eyeliner, you was flirtin' with a gay designer
>>18355232You come across as severely mentally ill.
>>18355242>…cried the stableboy as the 634 Chad inserted his 10-inch phallus into the young lad’s virgin anus
>>18355244you come across as a retard.
>>18355254Why are you projecting your mental illness and low IQ? I'm starting to get seriously annoyed at your paranoid delusions and constant nonsensical spamming.
Can you guys stop posting about black dick and post about denim instead?
>>18355278i got an ebbets blank today does that count?speaking of -- once ebbets inevitably goes to shit, who else makes a good vintage ball cap? i know of stockbridge sewing works is that it?
any recs for a well fitted western cut that doesn't cost 300 bucks?https://freenotecloth.com/products/wilkes-western-15-ounce-rinsed-denim?variant=46143264162015
>>18355294Wrangler Cowboy Cut and a good clothed bath
>>18355310already own it, but it feels a bit too cheap imo. got a pair for thirty.is there no good jean for like 200, 180? something like that?why is everything always 600 or 6 bucks, everything jerkoff hipster of shein these days
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>>18355146That's a real good fit anon. What's your thigh circumference and actual waist size? And what size are those?
>>18355294https://www.round-house.com/products/1903-american-made-jeans-cowboy-14-oz-five-pocket-jeans-made-in-usahttps://item.rakuten.co.jp/gmmstore/tcb-workingcatherojeans/ https://edwin-mall.jp/shop/g/gWM1158-89-28https://edwin-mall.jp/shop/g/gWM1151-89-28+ https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/en/ for jap sites
>>18355334Thanks, I'm pretty satisfied with them. My actual thigh and waist circumferences are 24" and 35", respectively. For a size 35 the thigh measures 13.5" and the waist is about 17-17.5" when the jeans are laid flat. I typically wear 1940s wide leg cuts, but for a slightly more "fitted" cut these actually work really well for me even though I have a slightly larger thigh to waist ratio. I always thought IH would not ever really work for me because their cuts do seem to fit slightly more slim, but the 634 are actually my most technically well fitting pair of jeans considering that the upper block never sags despite its relatively low rise and the thigh dimension provides the perfect balance of snug and relaxation. The crotch mobility on these are really good too, so they don't really feel like you're wearing paint-on jeans. All that considered, the 634 realistically would fit the majority of guys really well unless someone had an aesthetic preference for a wider cut.
>>18355274Then leave.
>>18355188Garbage. Stop pretending Uniqlo is le epic shit.
>>18355274Gotta agree with this anon. The burger boomer who’s obsessed with ghosts and small brown dicks has been ruining this general for too long. Please stop.
you need a new script. "you're schizo!" then replying to yourself saying "i agree!" is getting tiresome. who do you think you're trying to fool? all the regulars saw you berg out, threaten to sue me in ebonics, and then delete the general only a month or two ago.
>>18354052>Problems with the 710 and resolute jeans in general>.. paper patch, no concealed back pocket rivets, no stuffed belt loops, zipper fly? .. They are a slim cut, slimmer then actual 60s levis. Medium - low riseYou got almost all of that wrong my friend. They make higher rise models with hidden rivets, leather patches and wide fits too. And all models except the 712 have buttons
Is this too cropped?
>>18355580Looks fine to me.
>>18355581Thanks for the input. This turned out to be significantly shorter than expected (it's 60cm collar seam to bottom hem in this L) - I think unwearable without tucking in my shirts, but maybe as you say okay when worn like that.
>>18355580That's exactly the length a jacket like that should be
>>18355583These type of jackets look best at actual waist level or at belt level like in pic. Also the sleeve length looks just right. I can never find jackets that fit me like that because 5'10 archduke of manlets with broad shoulders.
>>18355466Ah, yes. On a slow board with barely a handful of posters there's a neverending stream of unique posters making the exact same arguments against denim in the same exact posting style. That's a very believeable thing.
>>18351147What type of pants is he wearing exactly?
>>18355631Not 100% sure but could be Dickies 874.
>>18349770you guys are adding way too much complexity to what is just wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
>>18355614I'm 6'0" (1.82m) and my shoulders are delt to delt almost 23 inches (58 cm) so quite broad. This is the newer version of the Red Tornado Detroit, if anything I think if your torso is a couple of cms shorter than mine this will fit even better.>>18355631First season they were 874 I think (don't remember for sure though, and didn't find a reference). Second season they switched to the Carhartt WIP Master Pants.
>>18355656No we're not
>>18355656>anon discovers /fa/
>>18355357Yeah I have a pair myself (tag 33) but they fit you so much better. I gotta either stop training legs or bulk up I guess bc my thighs are also around 24" but I'm only 32" at the hip shelf and 31" at the navel.
>>18354999>>18355061Thanks for the insight. They're offering me $20 off for my first order, and I'm tempted to pull the trigger on one of their $100 jeans. Seems like a good deal.
>>18355580Just depends if you always like to tuck your shirt in. If you don’t, your shirt is going to hang past the hem of your jacket which will look goofy. That said, how you’re wearing it right now looks really good
>>18355832If you wear a buttoned shirt untucked, you've already screwed up anyways
>>18355839There is literally nothing wrong with wearing a flannel untucked. Not everybody wants to dress like a full blown repro dork every single day
>>18355848Wearing a flannel untucked is fine, wearing a flannel isn't
>>18355232Thanks for the advice anon. Are handwarmer pockets really that bad looking? I've never owned a denim jacket before but I've noticed that even higher quality ones have pockets, should I avoid those as well?
Todays ‘fitIt’s cold today but I still overheated a bit on my dog walk
>>18349770Is the UB901 a good entry level denim jacket?
>>18355977NTA, but there’s tons of contention on this board about the modified trucker jackets with the handwarmer pockets. I have an Iron Heart traditional type III without the pockets and a more cropped cut, as well as a modified type III with the pockets. Yes, the traditional cropped cut looks really good, but over time I got fucking sick of not being able to put my hands in any pockets during the winter. The modified cut also looks good despite what people say, and it provides the indispensable value of actually being a practical jacket with pockets. Repro autists on here will tell you that the modified cut is horrendous and looks horrible, but it’s all just hyperbolic language. When it’s fall and winter, it’s just fucking annoying when you can’t stick your hands in any pockets. The traditional type III should just be worn during the spring when the temps aren’t that bad. There’s no problem with owning both
>>18355780Yeah the 634 does fit slightly slim for a straight cut. I actually sized up once to allow for more room in the thigh. Even though the size 35 doesn't fit super snug in the waist, it still never falls below my ass
>>18351877They still haven't fucking shipped
>>18356003The holidays probably got them busy? I got some samurais on the way and they’ve been sitting in the Chicago USPS handling office for 4 days straight. Bunch of lazy niggers
>>18356012Yeah, I'm just impatient
>>18355977I'm with >>18355983 I can't stand jackets without fubctional pockets even though they look better. What's the point of a jacket I'm not gonna wear even if it looks good? Some brands hide handwarmer pockets in the side seams (on types I and II) and some in the outer double front seams (type III), they're slightly less functional but more aesthetically pleasing.
>>18356059This is a modified type III with hand warmers. To me, there is nothing wrong with this cut. If you want to look super vintage, go with the traditional cropped cut, but reprofags are pretty retarded for acting like the modified cut should never be worn. Have fun with your nonfunctional jacket
be me>gracefully aging millennial, 35-ish, no regrets, no crises>still rocking tapered jeans like it’s 2013>jeans tucked neatly into boots because I’m not some sloppy peasant>“but muh baggy jeans r trendy now, anon!” >some limp-wristed zoomerkid looks like he fell into his dad’s Goodwill donation pile>meanwhile, my jeans?>snug, but not too snug>structured, sharp, timeless>you will never feel the power of denim that actually fits>you chose comfort over dignity>tfw we’re not the same
>>18356081Why do they use apes for their model? Which company is this so I know not to buy from them.
>>18355980Nice sweater. Probably would look better with earth tones jeans or chinos or wool pants. The jeans and dress shoes clash.
>>18356081To me, super cropped jackets only look good if you have the body proportions for them and if you're pairing them with appropiate rise on pants, which also requires the body proportions for it. I've never bothered with cropped jackets because I have a slightly longer torso to limbs ratio and can't stand jackets without pockets. I have a tendency to stuff my hands in my jacket's pockets even if the temps are warm. Not to mention you can have a somewhat short torso jacket with handwarmer pockets. According to the meassures I've seen online, Red Tornado's type III has a shorter torso than my Levis and both have handwarmer pockets.
>>18356088Unless your style is edgy and you're amazingly fit, tight jeans look extremely dated. I'm also 38 and I'd only feel comfortable wearing my slim jeans when I'm at the peak of a cut.
>>18356088Hey retard, I’m also a millennial. Having tapered jeans does not mean they “fit you better”. It’s all about the fit of your top block. You can wear a standard 501 cut with a perfect fitting top block and end up looking way better than if you were to wear your mega tryhard tapered jeans. There is no practicality or advantage to tucking your tapered jeans into your boots. Wearing a perfect fitting pair of 501s is the most mature, timeless, and patrician choice. Not only is every other generation laughing at your dumbass, but there are plenty of millennials laughing at you too
>>18356117>There is no practicality or advantage to tucking your tapered jeans into your boots.Keep seething.
>>18356130Not even seething, I’m just laughing at how completely tryhard this looks
>>18356130Do you actually look anything close to as edgy as Shia? In waywt there's for example no one that would be close to pulling outfits like that off.
>>18356110>>18356117be me>still rocking tapered jeans, tucked into boots, clean fit>some 501-wearing keyboard warrior calls me a “tryhard”>“bro, it’s all about the top block”>yeah, because nothing screams timeless like dad jeans and orthopedic loafers>talks about maturity while getting fashion advice from Reddit threads>“every generation is laughing at you”>meanwhile, you’re out here dressed like an extra from The Sandlot>another dude says slim jeans are “dated” unless you’re shredded>sorry you need a six-pack to compensate for no style, my guy>my jeans fit me, your opinions don’ttfw still winning while they cope in their “patrician” 501s
>>18356175So much rambling greentext instead of posting a single picture. Stay delusional.
>>18355983>>18356059long tube sausage torso doesn't look good. simple as. the jacket was designed to be short, cropped and tapered in the torso. 90s era levis jackets had the short cut in the torso and the handwarmer pockets hidden in the existing V stitching that goes down the chest. that's the best pattern if you want handwarmers.>>18356081its almost past his crotch. it would look terrible and give him a pregnant looking side profile if he buttoned it.
>>18356175I don't care about this debate either way but you post like an insufferable faggot in the literal sense.
>>18356191>>18356200be me>posting fire greentext, living rent-free in their heads>“y-you’re an insufferable faggot!” they cry, hands trembling over the keyboard>no argument, just seethe>“post a picture!”>nah, I’ll let my words do the heavy lifting >while you cope in silence>stay mad, stay baggy, stay irrelevant
>>18356203All that effort writing an essay response and still absolutely no fit pics. At least this guy >>18355146 has the balls to do that while actually looking good in his jeans
>>18353471Lol no
>>18356091Nah, you can wear jeans and dress shoes. It just makes you look like a normie 30-something. It's fine.
>>18356222Trips of truth
How often do you guys iron your jeans?
>>18356091Everyone wore jeans and dress shoes back in the day when a full leather traditionally constructed shoe was just a regular daily shoe for men.
>>18355321Plenty of jeans around 300 from Momotaro, Oni, Samurai, even Iron Heart in lighter weights. Don't settle for less.For $200 there is Naked and Famous and for $100-150 there is Unbranded Brand. You could actually settle for those.
>>18356231Literally never? I don’t want to flatten out any of the creases in my jeans, it completely destroys their character
>>18356223You can it just looks goofy. >>18356233Everyone wore suits back in the day. Then when they stopped wearing jeans they went to sneakers and jeans. I don’t believe jeans and dress shoes was ever a thing.
>>18356231Don't own one. I unwrinkle things by hanging them in the bathroom while I shower, and I never iron my jeans.
>>18356246>I don’t believe jeans and dress shoes was ever a thing.Don't speak on shit if you are under 25 years old. Every dad from 1985-2005 wore that combo every day.
>>18356246It definitely was.
>>18356250More like 1945-2005.
>>18356246A nice sweater with dark indigo jeans and leather shoes will never look goofy.
>>18356250My dad wore new balance and jeans and my grandfather wore a suit and dress shoes. My grandfather fought in ww2 and my father was a boomer. >>18356257This looks goofy. The guy on the left with khakis mogs the jeans and dress shoe guy
>>18356264Your grandpa wore a suit every day? My grandpa was in WWII, but he was like 18 or 19 so he was younger. He wore leather shoes every day until much later in life, and he wore jeans or chinos pretty much every day.
>>18356267Guess it’s all relative. My grandpa would mow the lawn with a tie on. All his brothers and cousins always wore suits too. Big old Irish American family.
>>18356246oxfords, spectators, loafers, boots, canvas sneakers etc have always been pretty typical pairings with jeans. sneakers came more into favor with the super late boomers and early xers. it should be noted that oxfords were on average a lot less pointy and sleek/elegant back then. its really easy to clownshoe the jeans and dress/casual shoe pairing even with normal sized feet because of how shoes tend to be shaped these days.
>>18356287Looks retarded. People use to wear a lot of goofy things and combos. Jeans and dress shoes is one. Put on a pair of khakis, at least, if you want to wear dress shoes. It’s like wearing sneakers with a suit.
>>18356291NTA, but leather dress shoes and jeans actually looks kind of sick
>>18355980Nice. Do you usually have no cuff at all or do you have them uncuffed because of cold weather?
>>18355580Thinking of buying a red tornado jacket like that myself. Is that the lined version in Moss Green?My chest size is 44in and I'm thinking of getting one in XL even though the sizing data in the aliexpress page is ridiculous
>>18356291it looks great if the shoe isn't pointy/sleek and the jeans are wider cut.
>>18356307No
>>18356307Wide cuts actually look really good with narrow footwear
>>18355977They're not bad, but they do lengthen the body of a jacket in a way that isn't to everyone's taste. Personally I'm not a fan. I have an IH modified type 3 but reach for my Buzz Rickson Type 1 or vintage Wrangler 124MJ (has pockets but they're so tiny and jacket is so cropped they're unusable) before it in almost every fit. But it really is all about proportions like >>18356093 says. I've got a really strong v-taper and long legs with big quads and a small waist. Cigarette cuts look best on me - high rise, tight top block through mid thigh, and then straight below the knee- and when paired with a cropped jacket give a perfect masculine silhouette. The modified type 3 hides my hips, making them look wider than they are and ruining that dorito on ciggies look. BUT when paired with a lower rise jean isn't half bad because the lower belt line complements the longer jacket length. As for the pockets thing, I just put my hands in my jean pockets. If it's cold enough that I need to worry about my hands being frozen, it's too cold for a denim jacket.
>try on a pair>fits better than anything I've ever tried from L*visWtf I'm Navy pilled now
>>18356291There was no such thing as "dress shoes" back then. They were just normal, low top leather shoes that were the default shoes for any man to wear for any occasion, because they were lighter, less bulky and more breathable than boots.
I own a bunch of high end Japan made tees and other loopwheeled stuff. Here’s my review of each:>Samurai SJST-M and SJST-SC01 tees. Both of these are hands down the most well made, durable tees I’ve ever worn. The cut seems to be very well designed and would seemingly fit most people. The collars on both tees are beefy ass ribbed collars that are triple stitched. Fabric on the SJST-M is thick and soft right off the bat, while the fabric on the other tee is very thick and textured. Both soften up like crazy after 10+ washes.>Merz B Schwanen 214 and 215 tees in their ~8 oz fabric. This is by far the most overrated company on the face of the planet. Their fabrics are VERY nice and they soften up really well, but their cuts completely miss the mark. The 215 cut is just dogshit, too narrow in the shoulders and chest, while the collar opening is VERY wide for some reason. The 214 cut is definitely better with a widened shoulder and slightly more narrow collar opening compared to the 215, but $100 for a shirt is asking a lot especially if the collar is only double stitched and isn’t some beefy ass ribbed material. Also, the stitching along the hem of the shirt started fraying and coming loose after a few washes.>Buzz Rickson Government Issued T shirt. The absolute best cut out of all t shirts I’ve ever worn. I actually asked some of the dudes at Self Edge what their best cut is and they handed me this. It’s not a really tanky t shirt with impenetrable build quality, but it’s a good balanced weight for both winter and summer temps and I can’t get past how awesome the fit is. Collar is double stitched. >The Strike Gold Loopwheel tees. Very stiff, slightly textured fabric when brand new. Cut is very good and universal, similar to the Samurai t shirt cuts. Build quality is top notch, triple stitched beefy ribbed collar. These start to soften up after about 5-6 washes, but it’s not nearly as plush and soft as the samurai tees.
>>18356303Yeah this is the winter version though, and the newest one at that. The previous winter version is an entirely different cut. The summer version is almost the same cut but (probably due to tolerances) this winter one is 1-1.5 cm shorter. I'm 88 kg or so, 1.82, and I have some chest and lats from working out for years (chest circumference is 110cm). The L fits comfortably around the chest even when layering, and the sleeves are perfect, but I would still probably go with the XL for the length. The problem is unless you're very broad or taller than me the sleeves might end up too long.
>>18356548there's 2 versions of the winter version? link me this new shorter one pls.
Recs for loopwheel hoodie? Don't really wanna spend more than about 250aud maybe 300 absolute maxWarehouse 450 is looking pretty good?
>>18356442People dressed different in the 1700s too. Why are you defaulting whatever time period as the default? You’ll just look goofy. And converses have been popular for a long time. Long since any of us were born.
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>>18356572It's a bit messy. Previous version came in a darker moss green and khaki, and you'll see the pictures show that the sleeves and bottom hem are almost level. New version should look in the pictures just like the summer version, meaning sleeves extend way past the hem. The seller might not have updated the sizing for the new version or could be selling both versions like this one here who sells both the old and the new moss green. So to get the new one just look either for the picture or for one of the new colours (blue, grey, teal/green, white all are new colours that they just introduced)
>>18356297Thanks, I don’t usually cuff my jeans don't like the look of it. But next time I wear dress shoes I might give it a try, with my boots I much prefer uncuffed
>>18356089>doesn't even recognize an Iron Heart jacketWhy are you even posting here
