WATCH THREADWATCH THREADWATCH THREADIf you post a Citizen or a Seiko in this thread, your mom will be raped by a pack of black gentlemen tonight.The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.>Your budget>Preferred brand or manufacture>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18592794
>>18596198ACTUAL NEW THREAD>>18589173>>18589173>>18589173
>mechanical digital chronograph>screw-down bezel>non stainless steel case>retrograde big date
>>18596237Fuck off millennial faggot, your Reddit humor isn't welcome here
>>18596237>mechanical digital chronographFUN FACT : Tag tried to make one.The seconds disk kept breaking upon reset.Tag is no longer trying to make one.
>>18596237>chronographe numérique mécanique >lunette à vis >boîtier non en acier inoxydable>rendez-vous rétrograde
>>18596198REAL THREAD THIS WAY>>18576142>>18576142>>18576142
>>18596250>p-please use my threadPathetic. We've had 2 /nawt/ since you made your shitty poorfag thread. No one likes you faggot, kys.
Is this a sector dial?
Tzzr
>>18596276No. This is.
>>18596257Stop spamming and filling up the board with your shit, niggerfaggot bittercel. kys.
Why does this thread hate bittercel so much? He is unironically the best poster we have ever had. Here's my reasons:bittercel is always brutally honest. He is like water, he will find a crack in your watch and pour in from there. He is the criticism we need. You never get that in watchuseek or reddit, you only get an echo chamber of “nice watch, wear it in good health, champ” bullshit. Not with bittercel, he does not care for your feelings which is why he will tell you the truth. Yes, your watch is too big for you, yes it’s a shitter, yes the lugs look like shit, yes the movement is crap. You, as a critically thinking individual, should embrace this.We are all protected by anonymity here which is the point of this site. Avatarfags are pathetic going against this. Take reversocel for example; he couldn’t handle a bit of heat from bittercel and immediately fucked off to r/watches as soon as someone wasn’t sucking his cock over his shitters and pens lmfao.Yes, bittercel may seem bitter at first, but he is the counter force to all this circle-jerking in here. He is harsh but fair. You hold the fact he never posts a watch against him, but that is merely him not taking a side. He is not a brain-dead fanboy to brands (other than Rolex, but Rolex is Rolex). This way he maintains his unbiased position.And the best part of bittercel? He is always there for you, right here, in this thread.
>>18596257Are you sad because you'll spend christmas alone, Mr Grinch?
I really like the new Oris, just hope they make a smaller version
>>18596299What an odd and weirdly specific thing to say.
>>18596299Don't be so harsh on bittercel. Imagine his pain, even the avatards are with their families and spouses while this place gets abandoned for just a few days. He is all alone here, with no option but to samefag through the holidays. It has to be the starkest reminder to him.
>>18596276
I got to check out the new Planet Ocean at my local Omega boutique.My thoughts based on handling it.>GoodIt wears smaller than 42mm. It feels like a 40mm watch. The thinness is appreciated. Overall, though, it’s still heavy.The bezel is extremely precise with zero backplay. The black bezel version looks best because the colored bezels look plasticky and make the dial aperture look tiny.The bracelet is so-so. The edges aren’t super-sharp and the taper is appreciated, but the links are still very thick and the clasp is huge. The clasp feels almost as thick as the watch itself and it’s long.The polished center links were already marred on a watch that had been out of its packaging for a few hours.Ignoring whether you like the look, it’s well-made. The revised version that will come with n a few years should be great.
>The 50 Best Small Watches for Men by Teddy Balldesack>all of them are 38-42 mm
>>1859635638 is unironically the minimum for men.Anything smaller looks like you're wearing a little bracelet or leather strap that happens to have a trinket on it.
>>18596356This is finally it.This place is so contrarian, we are now pretending to like 42+mm watches.You love to see it.Next edition will be Hublot edition.
>>18596367I posted that exactly to see the edgy post incoming. Thanks for the lols puppet
Santos or reverso?
>>18596356I can’t wait for that subhuman trustfund idiot to be raped by a n and die on the street from rectum bleeding
>>18596367Real men wear watches in the ranges 32-36 (36 being a sport watch) and even smaller when square. You’re merely a subhuman amerifat or an insecure redditor. Your favorite website is that way: https://www.reddit.com/
>>18596350Post a Pic.If you're expecting a new version that will potentially be better, why not wait?
Is Blancpain Leman-anon here?Strap-wearers, I want to know: >when buying a 20mm croc strap, do you go with an 18 or 16mm buckle?
>>18596383>Real men wear watches in the ranges 32-36Show us one.Inb4 some gay movie star from the 40s
I have black dress shoes, brown dress shoes, brown dress boots, tennis shoes, running shoes, golf shoes, motorcycle boots, two pairs of sneakers, flip flops, sandals, and loafers.Even with 12 footwear options I am still not a shoe collector or even a shoe enthusiast. Why do redditors insist on calling 3 watches a "collection" and why does having a mere interest in some product specs have to make you an "enthusiast"?Why does it have to be a part of your identity?(The reason is that it's all a marketing gimmick to get you to buy used shitters.)
>>18596387Was a no pics event. Before the official release.You can see much better pics online anyway.Oh, I have no intention of buying this watch. Probably not ever. I have a first gen 2500D SMPO and, aside from the early 2000’s bracelet, is far superior to the new model.
>>18596392You took the “belt collection” analogy from a few threads ago and made it ten times wordier and a hundred times whinier. Impressive.
>>18596388For dress watch straps, 20x16, for sports watch straps, 20x18
>>18596388I go with the size of the buckle I already have.>he doesn't have a signed buckleStop buying shitters.
>>1859640312 belts would be a collection thoughbeit. There aren't as many use cases for a belt. With shoes it's different.
Your grandfathers wore 31-34mm watches when they fought ww2 and they'd punch you in the mouth if you implied they weren't men.The watches that summeted Mt Everest in the famous story were 33mm. Nothing you're doing calls for a bigger watch than that.
I like Lange because they made watches for the SS and pocket watches for Hitler.
>>18596414>they'd punch you in the mouth if you implied they weren't men.Oh no, wouldn't want to anger a zogbot.>Nothing you're doing calls for a bigger watch than that.It was never really about diameter, it's always been about lug-to-lug distance. 47mm and under works for me.
>>18596367My wife says my wrist is big enough at 16.5cm (6 inches).
bittercel smells like crusted up shit from the gutter in streetshitterstan.
i think i'll go check out some watches later today
>>18596392After a while you realize the "watch community" is filled with tasteless retards who dress like manchildren or slobs and yet still think their opinions about a FASHION ACCESSORY is valuable.The most interesting opinions about watches don't come from watchnerds, but from people who have a primary interest in clothings, designs or arts. Because they immediately see watches as things that compliment your outfit and match your overall aesthetic.Watchnerds on the other hand are fascinated by grotesque shitters like picrel and jerk off about "muh finishing" because they don't even think about watches as wearable accessories. They can only enjoy the "performative" aspect of horology.
>>18596392because most people obssess over watches a long time before getting a 3 luxury watches collection.Considering the prices, having 3 luxury watches is closer to having 3 boats than 3 t shirts.If you have 3 boats, you are a boat enthusiast.
>>18596276No, a quadrant dial with sunburst and concentric brushing. Here is an example of a quadrant linen dial on everyone's favorite watch brand. Rolex used to make them as well.
Some anon posted a funny looking shitter he bought for his girlfriend in the last thread and it reminded me of the Falcone watches made by an Italian family in the 80s and 90s.I wish some microbrand did something similar in stainless steel with Selita movements. Given the popularity of the Cartier Crash and the Berneron Mirage I'm sure it would sell like hot cakes.
>>18596433Cool, bring some pictures back.
>>18596447There is a chink company who makes odd-shaped watches, including the Crash. I think...
>>18596425>all lowercase>obsessed with poopYou’re telling on yourself, Bittercel.
>>18596447are they all piss unique?
>>18596447Vomitous crap. Looks ayy-hi. Garbage.
>>18596469>IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MY SEIKO PROLAPSE I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT WAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAH
>>18596433kys and take your shitters to reddit.
Oh look, niggercel is strawmanning again lmfaokek
>>18596447Kill yourself.
Is it autistic to build your entire collection with the same kind of watches, just with different dials? Divers and chunky gmt’s, most aviation watches don’t do it for me and all I like are sport + casual/gada watches. Aqua Terra’s, Monta Nobles, Sinn 556, Formex Essence, CW 63, HA Havstrom, A&B Fortitude…All watches that are nearly the same function and style, but it allows me to collect a multitude of different dial style and colours.Is anyone else like this?
Why does Bittercel have to ruin every thread? He tried to make his own thread and no one joined him there. He should take the hint and realize no one wants to tolerate his behavior.
>>18596495Also very open to other watch recommendations that fall into this category
>>18596501Get a ROLEX poorfaggot
>>18596503I refuse to buy grey market and there’s only two Rolex watches I have decent interest in…Should I get on a 5 year wait list?It doesn’t seem worth it to me to be treated like shit by staff and toyed around with for months or years, actually a turn off
>>18596504If that's a turn off for you, watches clearly aren't your thing.
>>18596506Good to know but it won’t stop me from collecting
>>18596478Based motherfucking retard. You truly showed us. Back to school subhuman.
>>18596447WTF is this shit lmfao?
>>18596506Throw yourself down a cliff, ranjeet.
>>18596509Post a pic of your purple Grand Soikope and its appalling finishing so we can all laugh at it, faggot.
>>18596515For sure once you have posted a pic of your brown micropenis.
>>18596527All your contributions to this thread are about vomit, shit and brown dicks. You also happen to be a Seikofag.
I fucking loathe bittercel
>>18596501Get a Weekdater.
Is anyone else unimpressed by Omega’s catalogue? There’s so many boring pieces. Reminds me of Longines before they started making interesting stuff again.
>>18596417why are the numbers backwards
whats the best watch, the rolex explorer 36?
>>18596564it is both the best and the lowest common denominator
Kofe time.
>>18596546Keep being a fucking brainlet. Keep being a fucking brainlet and not going back to learning how to read. Everyone’s laughing.
>>18596557Mention one interesting catalogue. I’m gonna laugh.
>>18596621Cartier
>>18596564F91W
>>18596564Here are the 10 best watches.>Rolex Datejust>Rolex Explorer>Rolex Submariner>Rolex GMT Master 2>Omega Speedmaster>Carter Tank Louis>Casio f91w>Patek Calatrava>AP Royal Oak>JLC ReversoRetards ITT will go "haha NPC list". The truth is these are the only watches with some sort of cultural and horological relevancy. They have transcended watchmaking to become cultural icons, and can be worn with literally everything, from sweatpants to tuxedo (inb4 "ackchyually you're not supposed to wear a watch with a tuxedo").
>>18596628>Rolex Datejust < Rolex Buckley DJ>Rolex Explorer < Omega Ranchero>Rolex Submariner < Tudor Black Bay>Rolex GMT Master 2 < Seiko GMT>Omega Speedmaster < Zenith El Primero>Carter Tank Louis < Cartier Santos>Casio f91w < Casio F-84W>Patek Calatrava < poop>JLC Reverso < Cartier ReversoSorry anon, you got only one right, the AP. As for the rest, you only showed to be what you fear the most: an NPC. Keep eating, keep eating them memes, the table is set for you.
>>18596621IWC catalog is pretty solid, except their divers.
>>18596683I only like vintage IWC. Current IWC seems to be focusing only on muh avation to please their reddit fanbase (with that obnoxious triangle thrown on the dials, a nuke against the success of the watch).
>>18596704First time i see someone complain about the triangle. It's litterally the heritage of Luftwaffe b-uhr watches.../fa/ really has the weirdest takes, i'm not even mad, but I'm literally keking at your face: Ha Ha!
>>18596720I find it extremely unappealing. Looks like a road sign or something edgy. A circle, on the other hand, is cool as fuck.
>>18596720You know Ukrainians and Chinese make replica watches of those WWII pieces and they look exactly the same as IWCs?
>>18596725IWC watches are not out of my reach, but even if they were i would not get a copy, because i value actual quality and want to keep my watches forever ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Bd9FzaYH8 ).Patek is out of my reach, but i don't buy replicas of them either.
>>18596725>You know Ukrainians and Chinese make replica watches of those WWII pieces and they look exactly the same as IWCs?Link?
>>18596734>UkrainiansDoubt.
>>18596389Timothy Chalamet, tyler the creator, a bunch of other zoomer actors and stuff are wearing little cartiers. Pierce Brosnan in his prime did a cartier panthere ad.
>>18596720Type A chad fliegerdreieck mit zwei punkten vs Type B virgin silly little arrow
what's the best budget dress watch?
>>18596783sbth009
>>18596728Lol, you thought I told you that to encourage you to buy that crap? It was actually to discredit IWC, since they can’t make something actually different from cheap WWII watch replicas.
>>18596783>>18596793>sbth009watchdives black mop
>>18596559iirc the watch could be placed into a tank sight that used a mirror periscope that flipped the numbers. This way one set would be the right way.
yess
>>18596811disgusting don't ever quote me or my wife's son again
>>18596742They used to, before things started happening.A ton of franken pseudo military watches and cobbled together soviet watches with mismatching parts were made in Ukraine. The "Raketa Luftwaffe" is a good example. You'd find them all the time when looking for russian/soviet watches online and they always shipped from Ukraine.
Honestly if your watch isn't a>Rolex>Cartier>JLC>Patek>VC>AP>MAYBE Omega and a few other brandsThen I'm not interested in what you have to say about horology. Or anything else really.I'm sure you're a great guy and all, but we don't belong to the same world you and I.
>>18596772>Timothy Chalamet, tyler the creator>"real men"way to btfo yourself
NEW THREAD>>18596990>>18596990>>18596990
>>18596992Retard.
>>18596772Not just Cartier Tanks. Some Hollywood actor whose name I don’t remember was rocking a 32mm Baume & Mercier just a couple years ago.
>>18597015>Some Hollywood actor whose name I don’t remember was rocking a 32mm Baume & Mercier just a couple years ago.Wow, such a glowing argument for "real men" wearing small ladies watches.wtf I love fruity little watches now.
>>18597018What’s your wrist size?
>>18597018A ladies watch, traditionally, is 18-26 mm, you dumb cocksucking subhuman.
>>1859702217cm/7inch>>18597024>traditionallyExactly. Only fat hold hags wear those tiny little watches.
>>18597027Do you realize there is an objective relation between your wrist size and your watch diameter? It’s a golden ratio and your dumb amerimutt voice has no final say on it. You are crashing yourself against a wall.A watch looks good only when its case is sitting in the middle of your flat wrist space leaving 0,5-1 cm of the strap visible, above and below respectively. It must be nestled in your wrist surface (seen from above) but not cover it all. If your watch case extends beyond the lines of your arm width (again, as if seen from above and drawn flat) it’s gonna look like utter dogshit.Therefore, in your case, the objective ratio for a 17cm wist, is 35 to 40mm diameter, 35-36 being the dress watch, and 38-40 being the diver/sport watch. End of the story. Go past 40mm, and you’ll look like a mongoloid manchild whose only friends are the reddit users upvoting his posts.When we’re talking about a 16cm wrist, as in my case, the proportion will be different, so 32-35mm dress watches and 36-38 sport watches. Again, shut your mouth because this is maths and you’re crashing against a concrete wall.>Exactly. Only fat hold hags wear those tiny little watches.You also got reading comprehension issues. I said 18-26mm. You call a 32mm watch a ladies watch. It is not. A ladies watch is 24-26mm. A 32mm watch is a men’s watch for men with smaller wrists. Again, end of the story, burger. This has been the rule for over 90 years.
>>18597037The anon I was talking to suggested all men should wear small watches.Most men have a wrist size around 7 inches, and should wear 38 at minimum.>You call a 32mm watch a ladies watchit is>A ladies watch is 24-26mmOnly fat old hags wear watches this small.
>>18597037
>>18597048The anon you were talking to is me. You have no data to claim most men have 17cm wrists. Men’s wrists range from 15cm to 19cm, so there is NO standard size, you fucking braindead piece of shit. Also it depends by what type of watch it is. Once again, brainlet:15cm wrist —> 30-32mm dress, 35-36mm sport16cm wrist —> 32-35mm dress, 36-38mm sport17cm wrist —> 35-36mm dress, 38-40mm sport18cm wrist —> 37-38mm dress, 40-41mm sportIt’s maths. If you keep replying you’re shitting turds out of your brain and then out of the fingers you touch your screen with. Fucking subhuman mutt.>it isIt is not if you have 16cm wrists like me.>Only fat old hags wear watches this small.>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN>LOOK DAD I PRETEND TO HAVE BRAIN CANCER ON 4CHUNK LOL!!!
>>18597073damn you are one angry wristlet
>>18597076HOLY SHIT YOU’RE DENSEWhat did you prove?!?! Nothing! It says 16,5-18,3 cm, which means the ideal watch size is exactly the classic one, 35MM DRESS, 38MM SPORT. HOLY SHIT YOU PROVED ME RIGHT. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THIS LEVEL OF STUPIDITY MUST COME FROM ANOTHER GALAXY
>>18597076>survey of US Army personnel>americans are fat>soldiersUnrealistic dataLots of ordinary men have 15,5-16 cm wrists
>>18597083This as well. Fucking kek.
>>18597073damn, im rocking a 42mm diameter and 15mm thick breitling with a 16.5cm wristcant imagine wearing anything less than 40mm
>>18597082>38mm sportYes.But you said "Real men wear watches in the ranges 32-36 (36 being a sport watch)".And now you're conceding that even the lower average range should wear 38mm sport.You're agreeing with ME, not the other way around.>>18597083>>18597084Army personnel in 1988 was not fat at all. Nor were they typically muscular like so many military-type gymbros are today.They were overwhelmingly twinks.
>>18597089Post your ridiculous wristshot, so we can add it to the banterz archive.
>>18597092
>>18597095Absolutely perfect proportions.And this is an angle and subject distance that exaggerates the watch size compared to the wrist.
Telemeter Speedmaster
>>18597090>But you said "Real men wear watches in the ranges 32-36 (36 being a sport watch)".>And now you're conceding that even the lower average range should wear 38mm sportI said that because real men are slim, tall and slender. A bodybuilder is not a real man, but a soicuck redditor. A slim man will always look more intelligent, more refined and more self-confident than a musclefat gymcuck. See: Alain Delon, Marcello Mastroianni, Cary Grant, Cillian Murphy, Jude Law, Tony Leung. All slim, handsome men. If your body is built like that, you’ll most probably have a wrist around 16cm. Then, again, YES, 32mm is a PERFECTLY FINE AND CLASSIC size for a gold dress watch. You can go up to 35, maybe 36, but anything beyond that size will look like shit.Your screenshot says 16,5-18,3 cm, so that is a very wide range. Do not try to twist my words based on that, you stupid shitface. I will destroy you.>16,5 cmThis is already bigger than the 16cm wrist of the slender man. If 16,5cm, you’ll probably find 32mm too small, but 34-36 will be perfect. Again, past that your watch will look like dogshit.>17cmThis is a more structured wrist, so of course you will be able to wear 38mm sport watches. But something above 40mm will still look like batshit. And the dress watch, once again, despite not 32mm, will have to be 35-36mm for sure. Not the horriric gigaturd sizes that current brands offer.>18cmWell, here you’ll probably be able to wear 38mm dress watches, because this is a big wrist. The sport watch CAN be 42mm, but anything above that will probably look too big.So you see you fucking retard, I am not agreeing with you, I am educating you on the different ranges of wrist-watch size proportion. You keep attacking me because I said 32mm and that sounds crazy to your broken ass brain, but you keep failing to understand that some men have smaller wrists, and they are not a minority, especially today that physical labor is reduced to its minimum due to machines.
>>18597095Too big. You’d benefit from a 38mm sport watch.
>>18597101>I said that because real men are slim, tall and slender.You mean exactly like 80s US military personnel.Not reading the rest of your wall of cope.
>>18597104>is wrong as fuck>is coping since the very beginning>>lol too long will not readBased illiterate proletarian.
>>18597106you:>real mean wear 36mm sports watchesalso you:>the lower end of the average male wrist range should wear 38mm sports watches
>>18597102yea thinking of getting an aqua terra 38mm next, still gonna keep the breitling tho
>>18597108You’re just a troll at this point.
>>18597110So when you said "real men wear 36mm sports watches" you really meant "men with 15cm wrist size".
>>18597102>Too big.Nope. There's tons of daylight between the tops of the lugs and the edges of his wrist.
>>18597111Nope, a 36mm sport watch can be worn by a man with 15 or also 16 cm wrists. See the old skin-divers (they were usually 36mm and they were for the average man) or even the Longines Legend Diver reissue in 36mm.Once again, a real man is not a soldier nor a bodybuilderbro, so he’ll have a 16-16,5 cm wrists. Keep trolling, mutt.
>>18597116Terrible opinion. It’s just too big.
>>18597118>a 36mm sport watch can be worn by a man with 15 or also 16 cm wristsSo when you said "real men wear 36mm sports watches" you really meant "men with 15-16cm wrist size".
>>18597095Good watch but it’s definitely on the bigger side of the spectrum
>>18597120Go back and re-read all my posts. You admitted you won’t read because they are too long. Then you have no right to talk.
It's not about diameter... It's about lug-to-lug distance. If you've got a 16 to 17cm wrist (depending on the exact curvature of your wrist), the BIGGEST lug-to-lug you can fit without coming to edges of your wrist is 47 (speedmaster) or 48 (GMT-Master II). 49 is gonna be sketchy and 50+ is beyond saving.
>>18597122You said "Real men wear watches in the ranges 32-36 (36 being a sport watch)"source >>18596383After being confronted on this nonsense you walked it back with your little size list here >>18597110which shows that YOU believe a 36mm sports watch belongs on 15-16cm wrists. And that bigger wrists should wear 38mm and up.
>>18597119It's not an opinion. The watch has tons of wrist clearance beyond the lug tips.
>>18597124This is also true. These two watches have almost the same diameter but the Squale looks much smaller because it has a shorter lug-to-lug distance.>>18597127You are a literal subhuman. You can keep going for eternity, but you will never the change with word tricks the simple fact that a smaller wrist (15, maximum 16 cm) looks good with 32-35mm dress watches and 36-38mm sport watches. When your wrist is average, i.e. 17cm, you still look good with 35-36mm dress watches (not by chance the classic golden size) and 38, maximum 40mm sport watches. Anything above 17cm is a big wrist. Period. You will never change this, you are just resorting to the shallowest and most confused rhetoric only because you’ve been seething for reasons that I don’t know since the very beginning. Keep seething, I guess, brainlet.
>>18597129The watch is too big. Say that another time, c’mon, I’ll reply that the watch is too big. Who’ll get tired first?
>>18597132>a smaller wrist (15, maximum 16 cm) looks good with 32-35mm dress watches and 36-38mm sport watches.Earlier you said real men wear 36mm sports watches.You now changed that to "men with smaller wrists".I disagree with your first statement, and agree with your corrected statement.
>>18597134It looks absolutely fine.The lug-to-lug is well within the wrist width, and a 42mm dive watch has the dial size of a 38mm watch so it's visually not too big at all.
>>18597138I did not correct anything. You are simply autistic. I said that a real man is a slim man, without fake bodybuilder muscle. A slim man usually has a 16cm wrist. A 16cm wrist looks good with a 36mm sport watch, maximum 38mm. Example n.1: most skin-divers of the past were 36mm and they were for the average man. The average man had a 16cm wrist. Example n.2: the vintage Submariner 38mm was not a “skin-diver”, but in fact a diver, so it was 38mm, and as a consequence was worn by Sean Connery who had a 17cm wrist. Crystal clear. Keep trying retard. You’ll get there.Keep coping subhuman brainlet.
>>18597140It’s too big.
>>18597145>I did not correct anything.You went from "real men wear 36mm sports watches" to "men with smaller wrists wear 36mm sports watches".
>>18597148
>>18597145lolIf you haven't hit 1/2/3/4 you're not a real man, your exact physique doesn't matter but in any case your wrist size doesn't change with your muscle mass, you blithering idiot.
>>18597152A 16cm wrist looks good with 32-35mm dress watches and 36-38mm sport watches; a 17cm wrist looks good with 35-36mm dress watches and 38mm sport watches.
>>18597132>16cm is a smaller wrist>>18597145>>18597151>16cm is an average wristso which is it?
grand seiko is for homosexuals
>>18597156Have you tried a doctor to cure your autism?
>>18597156>smaller wrist: 15, maximum 16cmThat means the 16cm wrist is the maximum of the smaller spectrum, so it’s super close to an average wrist.
>>18597159This. Amerifats are unbelievable. Like talking to concrete walls.
>>18597160Just stop feeding the troll bro. He’s here for the (You)s
>>18597161No doubt about that
>>18597159So "real men" means "men with wrist size just below the average"?
>>18597163Real men means slim, slender men. Slender men have wrists that are around 16cm wrists, half more, half less. What’s so hard to understand?
>>18597154The fucking lengths you will go to just to cope about 1cm of wrist circumference luh-maoJust try the watch on, you will see if it looks good. Dial diameter, bezel thickness, proportions, and lug-to-lug distance all contribute massively to how a watch LOOKS on your wrist. Everything you're saying is just cope from someone too afraid to walk into a store and try watches on. Millennials are truly something else.
>>18597165You should say that to the literal subhuman who keeps replying to me. What I did was teaching him the golden rule of wrist-watch proportions.
>>18597164>Slender men have wrists that are around 16cm wrists, half more, half less.But you said yourself 16cm wrists are part of the "smaller wrist" category.Also the average man is not "slim/slender".And the average "real man" definitely isn't.
>>185970950 finishing
What an epic thread.Just discussing watches conceptually without any grounding in reality.
>>18597171>No, I didn’t.
>>18597167>But you said yourself 16cm wrists are part of the "smaller wrist" category.No, I didn’t.>15,0small>15,1small>15,2small…>15,7small>15,8small, but…>15,9IS ALMOST AVERAGE>16,0STARTS TO BE AVERAGE>16,1NOW IT’S REALLY AVERAGE>16,2average>16,3average…>16,8average>16,9average>17,0average…>17,6average>17,7well…>17,8amost big>17,9THIS IS BASICALLY BIG>18,0STARTS TO BE BIG>18,1DEFINITELY BIG>18,2big>18,3big>18,4bigIs it clear now?
>>18597172>maximum 16Post your school grades holy kek. Please, post them. Seriously.
>>18597174Your definition of "smaller wrist": wrists between 15 and 16 cm.You want me to draw you a venn diagram?
>>18597172>>18597167Holy fuck you’re retarded man.
>>18597175From 16cm onwards it’s an average wrist. The wrist of a slim man. Why are you trying to waste people’s time?
Can I get a QRD on wristgate?Aren't all wrist below 17cm small?
>>18597180>From 16cm onwards it’s an average wrist.That's not what you said.You LITERALLY said "smaller wrist (15, maximum 16)".This includes 16.
>>18597182Autism is bad, burger. Seek help.
>>18596383"real men wear 36cm sports watches">>18597073"men with 15-16cm wrists wear 36mm sports watches"soooo which is it
>>18597185There’s no contradiction. Enjoy your ban bro.
>>18597188So men with wrists larger than 16cm aren't real men?
>>18597189Musclefat bodybuilders are not real men.
>>18597185Yeah, especially when the actual average wrist size is 17-19cm. So he's saying real men have small wrists.Also if he's reporting anons he's probably the jew who got triggered by the "my AD got called up for reservist duty in Tel Aviv" posts lol
>>18597192> the actual average wrist size is 17-19cmProof? Almost everyone I see around me is femboy-tier slim these days.
>>18597191So men with wrists larger than 16cm are all musclefat bodybuilders?>>18597192>So he's saying real men have small wrists.Gotta love how the go-to example is Timothee Chalamet too kek
>>18597194cause you’re probably europeanyou’re talking to obese amerifats, don’t forget
My country was neither conquered nor carried through a world war so I have no concept of wtf 16cm is.
>>18597199easy, it's 1cm less than 7 inches.You're welcome bro
>>18597195Also he doesn't understand that actual bodybuilders value small wrists because the proportions make the forearms look jucier. Same with smaller ankles making the calves look bigger.
>>18597195>Timothee ChalametI never mentioned him. I mentioned Alain Delon, Marcello Mastroianni, Cary Grant. That’s peak male aesthetic and peak male performance. All had 16-16,5 cm wrists. If your wrist is bigger, fine, but you better have it bigger by nature, not because you eat too much burgers or take steroids.Every wrist has its ideal watch sizes and you’re just shitting diarrhea out of your ass for the sake of it.
>>18597201>he doesn’t know you can increase your wrist size with exercisesLmfaoo retard
>>18597203>All had 16-16,5 cm wrists.source?Also, it's extremely odd that three actors from half a century ago define "real men", but thousands of fit military men from the 80s don't.
>>18597206>the average wrist size is 17-19cmsource?
>>18597206Source? Motherfucker you just have to look at their photos, are you braindead?
>>18597205Enlighten us.>>18597206You're arguing with Sven Raphael Schneider himself.
>>18597208So let me get this straight; a visual guesstimate of three faggy actors' wrists is enough to define the wrist size of "real men", but a study of thousands of military aged men using actual measurement tape isn't?>>18597207That wasn't me, but see >>18597076The average wrist size is between 16.5 and 18.3 cm according to probably the best study on the matter that we have.
>>18597212https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVjg4VmftQ
>>18597215>outdated study from 40 years ago>men in the army>murrilards>>the best study on the matter that we haveTOPKEK. Leave your basement and look at the people outside you fucking retard.
>>18597216I don't want to hear any nonsense about being a real man from you any more anon. We already do plenty of dead hangs and pullups, a few years ago I was averaging 80 reps a day. Whatever gains you get from this basic level of fitness is already achieved by any real man. Pathetic.
>>18597217>>outdated study from 40 years agosays the faggot posting actors from 60 years ago.You need meds, unironically.
>>18597220This place is so cursed. That retard is actually saying smaller wrists are manlier and he's afraid of bodybuilders. I don't think it has anything to do with watches, he's just a coping lanklet. Nonetheless, he could probably still wear a 40 or even 42mm sports watch and it would look OK.
>>18597224Small wonder there are half a dozen /wt/ threads in the catalog on the regular.A potent mix of violent autism, deep dissociation from reality, all coupled with massively inflated egos.
Still not seeing any of these good IWC fakes.
I guess there is actually a montblanc that I kinda like
>>18597345Peak 00s mall shitter.
>>18597351You single handedly make this thread unbearable, is it on purpose?
>>18597363I haven't posted in like 2 years dumbo. Tell me how this is not the pinnacle of said design.
Chang is making chink watches with a Sympathie case and a fitted crystal that even Roger Dubuis couldn't be fucked making anymore.The current dial selection is horrible but hopefully they'll reuse the case in future models. Would be nice to be able to get a Sympathie without forking out 20k.
Why is everyone here so angry it used to be about the watches
Are you a man of class?Here's my Jean Perret 14k gold pocket watch with a matching chain.Your move, /wt/.
>>18597429Mortadellas got too fat to wear wrist watches rancid pile of putrid shit?
>>18596198>Still using that ugly sperm hour hand DOA
>>18597071omegachads, we won.
>>18597384Like a Dubuis case and a Moser dial.
>>18597073>15cm wrist —> 30-32mm dress, 35-36mm sport>16cm wrist —> 32-35mm dress, 36-38mm sport>17cm wrist —> 35-36mm dress, 38-40mm sport>18cm wrist —> 37-38mm dress, 40-41mm sporti strongly agree
>>18597384Who the fuck is Chang, you dumb fuck. Fuck you.
>>18597485>we need the chinese market
>>18596198The new Rangers are nice and all, but the BB36 (or BB ONE as they call it now) is such a superior and underrated watch.
>>18597570I don’t think it looks as good. The round indices have never looked good with snowflake hands.
>>18597570Inaccurate slop.
>>18597570Not even close, it looks like BB58 they forgot to put bezel on. Or it fell off.
>>18597429Brown hands wrote this, all old precious metal watches are Indian-coated.
I tried to post a photo but it's not working... but what are your thoughts on the grand Seiko sbgx355? I'm going to buy this to wear at my wedding.I love the 37mm, such a perfect size for this.
>>18597784I am sure both you and your husband will look lovely
>>Your budgetWhatever it takes>>Preferred brand or manufactureSwiss? Don't really care>>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etcSquare gold, something that could work for dress or black tie >>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etcAutomatic would be nice >>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etcNah>>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etcBlack leather>>Wrist size or desired watch sizeSmall
>>18597076I absolutely don’t give a shit about your retarded debate on wrist sizes, but a study claiming that the average size is "16.5 - 18.3 cm" is complete bullshit. That’s not an AVERAGE, it’s a RANGE.An average is calculated by adding up the wrist sizes of all participants and dividing by the number of participants. It can only be a single number.Example:>2 whores on picrel>2 boobs per whore>[2 boobs + 2 boobs] / 2 whores>there's an average number of 2 boobs per whore>if one whore had 3 boobs and the other one had only boob, the average number of boobs per whore would still be 2
>>18597791Forgot pic. SHIT.
>>18597791>>18597792but both those whores have 2 boobs anon
>>18597791>I absolutely don’t give a shit about your retarded debate on wrist sizesI sure hope for you that this is true, because the actual average ("mean") is 17.42cm according to this study.
>>18597824And the average female wrist was 15.12cm.
>>18597824Yeah I said this already but I merely asked for sauce. Why would I lie?
>>18597785
stop making watch and perfume threads!
>>18597848>Why would I lie?Because it sure seemed like you got triggered.First of all that screenshot was clearly someone using everyday language, and saying things like "the average size ranges between x and y" is a very common thing to say and understand.
>>18597864No, I don't think so.
yfw the Patek Cubitus is actualy a dope watch and 99% of the influencers were wrong about it once again.Like they are wrong for the Land-dweller btw. Always trust the people who actually make the watches over the shitty reviewers.
>>18597904I’ve actually been able to handle a Cubitus and, even though I’m no fan of the looks*,I can one thing for sure: it is more comfortable than the Nautilus. The end links have much better articulation.*truthfully, I don’t really like the Nautilus either.
>>18597905it's also very thin, you just need the wrist size to pull it off
>>18597904The Cubitus is a shit design.The sides are so long and straight that they seem to collapse inward in the middle. Absolutely atrocious.>>18597908Disgusting dial surface, typography, and hour hand.
>>18597911t. Seiko wearer
>>18597912Seiko lost the plot many years ago, right around the time when they started putting the prospex X logo on every fucking dial.Grand Seiko on the other hand has only been getting better ever since they separated from Seiko in 2017.
>>18597912kek
>>18597916>Grand Seiko on the other hand has only been getting better ever since they separated from Seiko in 2017.They're grotesque looking and R*ddit-coded.
>>18597911>The Cubitus is a shit design.Yup, i do believe you, poor bitterfag, over a house founded in 1839 and all the clockmakers, jewelers, designer working for that brand that is the epitome of haute horlogerie.
>>18597923>Patek designed it, therefore it goodlol pic relatedThe Cubitus literally looks like a watch AI would generate if you prompted it "draw a Nautilus but square".And Patek released it like a year after they said they were discontinuing the Nautilus to avoid getting sucked into the integrated bracelet hype.Cubitus also means elbow in Latin.It's a bullshit watch in every possible way.Thierry is a retard who surrounded himself with yes men.
>>18597923Imagine someone making the same argument saying that cars from a particular brand are good because 50+ years ago they were making good products. It's literally over, anon. I was trying on the Breguet Type XX 2067 yesterday and the (Chinese) sales assistant literally said "it looks good on you, it's big so people can recognize it from across the room."lolIt's not about watches anymore, it's about signaling things to people for approval. Patek sells signals.
>>18597916wrong they still make good budget watches for salary men
>>18597570nice san martin homage
>>18597791So 1 Average is 2 boobs per whore? So would 2 averages added together then be 4 boobs per whore or 1 boob per whore? What if you want toknow the average of 2 Averages?
>>18597904PATHETIQUE DECUBITUSIL FORMA DEFORMAAMBULANTE!
PROTECTIONCASIOILLUMINATORWATER 200M RESISTADJUST •• MODE• LIGHT ON/OFFSTART-STOPLIGHT •ELECTRO LUMINESCENT BACKLIGHTALARMSHOCK RESISTCHRONOG-SHOCK
>>18597366Looks good, You're an idoit
>>18597429>14k
>>18597911>Disgusting dial surface, typography, and hour hand.Yeah the smiley is sway better
my rolex AD just offered me a sub date, what do?
>>18597904The cubitus makes no sense. It's just a square nautilus, and even the nautilus is fucked out but if I wanted that style of watch I'd get the original.
>>18598192Get your leather on and get ready for whips and chains, bitch.
>>18598192Politely declined and ask for a no date.
>>18598192Buy it.If you don't like it, sell it and make a profit.
>>18598192Try to top from the bottom I guess?
>>18598202Cry more POORFAGGOT!
>>18597991san shartinthis whole brand is just neo soiko.
How does the Grand Seiko spring drive wear on a average wrist (15,5 cm)? Is it better than a 36mm Rolex explorer?
>>18597715That is quite literally what it is.
>>18598223iirc they tend to wear a little larger than the typical 36 mm Rolex
>>18598223Without being “hurr my brand is better than your brand”The 36mm Oyster case is the most comfortable, best wearing watch ever made. If you think other watches look better or you like their complications or technology, that’s fair, but if you’re going for wearability, the Rolex cannot be beat.
>>18598223Are you talking about the older 40mm ones or the newest 37mm one?
>>18598229>without being "hurr durr-And yet you still brought it up, negating the purpose of saying it.
>>18598232First time on 4chan, eh? Well, have fun. We’ve been here a while. You’re gonna love it.
>>18598229It's not even just size and proportions, the design and finish on the bracelet literally feels like silk. Even if they don't have a gorillion hours of hand finishing like watch nerds like to jerk off over with the higher end brands, rolex bracelets are the best in the industry and it's honestly not even close. Even on the datejust and OP where they don't use the nice toolless adjust clasp they still nail it.
>>18598233You're an oldfag huh? Were you here all summer? Maybe even since last summer?
>>18598235You feel attacked? No offense was intended. This is not a troll thread.
>>18598234In terms of sports bracelets, the Oyster is great, but the Jubilee is even more comfortable. I don’t like the shiny look, but in therms of the on-wrist experience, the Jubilee is truly perfection.
>>18598241Do you have a rolex? If you show me your ill show you mine.
>>18598244> Do you have a rolex? If you show me your I’ll show you mine.Yes, a 16570, a 1502, a 116660, and a 16253. I don’t care to see yours though.
>>18597485She's wearing a 31mm though. Whats with all these women wearing 31m? I don't think it looks great. Alsi layering works better with the 28mm.
>>18598248>I have this. That and this. Yea sure you do buddy. I actually dont have one. I bought my wife a ladydatejust though.
>>18598241Jubilee is actually what I think of when I think of perfect bracelets. The small links and amazing articulation cannot be beaten, it's soft and you always get a perfect fit. I haven't even seen one of the 7 link 1908 bracelets in person yet but I imagine it's even better.
>>18598257I don't like the way the jubilee looks though. Nor do I like fluted bezel.
>>18598249The ATs are 30mm. What's wrong with it? They're still thick so that's a turn off but the diameter looks fine for a woman's wrist. And if she was that concerned with layering bracelets she'd wear a square watch.
>>18598259I like jubilee with smooth bezel. The fluted bezel is too much, the jubilee is blingy but it's manageable and you get the added comfort so it's worth it.
>>18598260Lots of women are wearing the 30mm AT and 31 datejust. Its a fad. They're like lemmings.
>>18598264It's hard to believe a lot of women are wearing 30mm ATs considering they just came put weeks ago. How many could they possibly have sold in that time?My wife was in the Omega boutique trying a bunch of them on in all different dials and 2 tone configurations and different models and sizes desperately trying to find a watch she liked but inevitably discovered what I already told her - omega just makes thick fat shitters now. She actually wanted to be an omega fan girl and just couldn't do it.
>>18598298Are you calling me a liar????!Every girl i know wears a 30mm AT and has a labubu.
>>18598298Oh I didn't know this. Its not surprisikg consdering the trend of celeb women gravitating towards 31mm rolex. ..Though jennifer garner has a 28mm ladydatejust. She's very classy
Jennifer Aniston is always wearing her 31mm gold rolex. She likes a larger flashier watch. She wears that all the time
>>18598317She's childless hahahahaha
>>18598317>old haglooks disgusting
>>18598314>>18598317>random old boomer hags wearing rolex #rolexnoeggsleftthose old ladies are at least 40 pounds overweight and have gargantuan girthy wrists compared to Danielle. cute girls don't want a skeezy old carsalesman rolex. omega is young and fresh. #omegabreedablecuties
I may consider a black bay one if they chose some interesting dial colour options that made them standout as something different than a cope watch for someone that can’t afford a Rolex or omega..
>>18598398>>18598398Youre retarded. Jennifer anistond jennifer garner are household names. No one even knows the name of your k-pop star or cares. Your outbursts and public admissions of yellow fever are disgusting.
>>18598240>This is not a troll thread.KEK
>>18598466Unfuckable hags vs. 20yo qt.Rolextards are beyond delusional. I forgot that popularity is all that matters to you.
Post your "fuck you, I like it" watch.
>>18598539
How do you guys limit your watch budget? Every time I look at a watch I think>wait a minute, for just a few thousand more I could get the Rolex version of that Tudor I want!And a few more again and I could get a Silver Snoopy Speedy. But why not spend just a little bit more and get the cherry dial Day-Date?It's almost paralizing me in a way.
>>18597904Its awful. How you can even turn a GOAT watch like the nautilus into this monstrosity is impressive.
>>18598557Each watch I own is "the best watch ever" in its own way. Sometimes that doesn't require spending a lot of money, sometimes it does.
>>18598557There’s thinking about watches as being “best” like >>18598568 and that’s an effective (almost healthy) cope, but really, you’re overthinking it. Plus, concerning yourself with which trinket is “best” only leads to celibacy. Spend your brain activity on friends& family, not toys.If you like a watch and can afford it, buy it. If you like an expensive watch, don’t buy the shitty cope version because it will only remind you of how poor you are.Don’t fret about specs. If a watch you like only has 100m versus 200m of WR, you’ll drive yourself crazy.
>>18598557I only buy watches that look good, so my watch collection is a few hundred dollars worth of shitters. I don't think I'll ever comprehend people who spend thousands of dollars on a watch, if I was spending that much I'd expect the whole thing to be full custom. With shitters, I don't feel bad if I break one, and I can mix and match parts without some watch nerd screeching because it ruins the value of a watch I spent 20 bucks on to practice zaratsu with.
>>18598563It's not a Nautilus. Patek isn't just the Nautilus brand, they have the right to make new models.
>>18598610Patek can’t win. If they stick to tradition, people will screech that they never make anything new. If they try to create something new, those same people will screech that Patek is abandoning tradition.If they’re expensive, you get screeching about how they’re elitist.If they make something less expensive, they’re catering to the lowest common denominator.
>>18598619It's like for movies, if you have new ideas there's 80% chances that it fails, if you do remakes there's 80% chances it works but people will call you lazy.
>>18598559I really like this, how much is the fake and which is the best one in the EU?
>>18598557I'm poor.
>>18598647Technically that’s a “fuck you, I rike it!” watch.
>>18598559>>18598634>>18598647There's nothing controversial about these watches. At least the GP Casquette is weird looking.
>>18598634>nice Orient, bro
>>18598539Normies will probably think that it's an Invicta or whatever, but if you know you know, and if you don't know who cares about your opinion.
>>18598657That VC is literally a reskinned speedmaster cal321 (in steel) for 6x the price. Same movement, worse WR, better finishing BUT still Swiss-tier. Honestly it's ridiculous.
>>18598647Ching chong
>>18598688Nice try faggot.NEW THREAD>>18598714>>18598714>>18598714>>18598714>>18598714
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