>>100152520
What are the main differences between zsh and bash? I am planning to switch to zsh but the majority of articles I read on the internet say that zsh is just for the customization and not as powerful as bash that has programming functions such as looping and and conditional constructs, tilde and brace expansions, and the use of aliases. Bash has also powerful invocation tools and a restricted shell mode, having a particular POSIX mode.

Amazing how the web is dying and I consistently started to rely on individual blogs now. It's like the fucking 90s.
>need some specific burocratic stuff regarding work
>botnet gives me gibberish
>govt oficial was frustrated about the lack of understanding of the topic, and lack of material in our language so she made a blog about her hyper-specific subject
>looks like shit but its exactly what I need.

>>100152727
"Not very good looking but great/rich info" webpages is all anyone needed.

>>100152520
Ebussy my beloved

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Has anyone had any problems with Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora systems when installing software from a third party repo? For example, when using an official .deb package to install VScode, or using nvm to install nodejs, were you able to cleanly upgrade from one version of Debian/Ubuntu to the next? I'd like to install vscodium/code and nodejs, but I'm unsure of how to do this in a way that "won't break Debian," a philosophy that Debian users keep referring to.
Is this something to worry about when installing such software, or am I overthinking this?

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>>100152520
>CentOS Stream 8 End of Builds: May 31, 2024
>We expect this to correspond roughly to the release of RHEL 8.10. CentOS Stream 8 is where new features are developed for RHEL 8. With the release of RHEL 8.10, RHEL 8 will be considered largely feature complete.
>When we announced CentOS Stream we noted that it was designed to serve "as the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux." With RHEL 8 transitioning to Maintenance phase, CentOS Stream 8 has fulfilled its purpose.
>After May 31, 2024, CentOS Stream 8 will be archived and no further updates will be provided.

>CentOS Linux 7 End of Life: June 30, 2024
>RHEL 7 reaches End of Maintance on June 30, 2024. After June 30, 2024, there will be no updates published for CentOS Linux 7.
>If you want to stay within the RHEL ecosystem, you’ll need to decide if you want to move to a RHEL8 or a RHEL9 based distribution. You should carefully read each of these to help select the right platform for your systems:
>The RHEL Lifecycle Considerations for RHEL8 Considerations for RHEL9
>The packages will be archived on vault.centos.org after June 30, 2024.

It's over.

>>100152865
forgot link
https://blog.centos.org/2023/04/end-dates-are-coming-for-centos-stream-8-and-centos-linux-7/

>tfw I thought I was some kind of elite hacker when I boot up damn small on a flash drive in 2008

>>100152520
>gnome still can't generate file picker thumbnails on the fly
going back to plasma, fuck this fat kike

>>100152905
Literally a useless feature lol

>>100152865
One door closes, another door opens
>Welcome to Rocky Linux

is there a wifi spectrum analyzer for linux ? something that shows the signal intensity in real time in some sort of plot so I can determine the best position for my antenna ?

What's the easiest way for remapping multiple keys on Linux? I'm using GNOME and KDE on wayland if it matters.

>>100152997
Wavemon or LinSSID. You can also do tricks with the built-in command line of network manager like this (in a terminal window):
while true; do nmcli -f "CHAN,BARS,SIGNAL,SSID" d wifi list ifname wlp4s0 | sort -n; sleep 1; done
Replace "wlp4s0" with the name of your own wireless device. You can find the name with "ifconfig"

>>100152865
Ah good old CentOS, used it a lot back in the day before Stream was a thing. Fastest way to spin up a webserver.

just booted up my raspberry pi for the first time in 5 years
how the fuck do i open python idle????

I'm trying to use sxhkd to bind my thumb mouse button to alt+left_click
The mouse button should be F24.
I grabbed some awk script, and it reports the thumb button as "202 NoSymbol"
When I was using Windows I just wrote an autohotkey script to do this but sxhkd just reports "Unknown keysym name: 'NoSymbol'.
Anyone ever tried doing this?

>>100152520
I don't even know his real name I always just think of him as ebussy now

>>100153190
Same
He's got a retarded name and a retarded face so the name ebussy stuck.

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>>100152520
Windowsnigger here, which version of linux do i have to use to get it to look like this? it's just a wallpaper but i've seen tons of people using really cool layouts like this with all sorts of code and images/ascii all over the place

>>100152895
This but cracking WEP WIFI with Ubuntu

>>100153305
>>100152895
>hear about Wi-Fi hacking
>doing it requires hardware support
>doing it requires compiling weird modded kernel modules
>none of the 10 random USB Wi-Fi dongles even support monitor mode

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>>100152541
bump

I've been using Plasma 6 for less than an hour and I'm on the verge of necking myself.
You can't do anything without something crashing, glitching or becoming unresponsive, if your program launches at all that is.

i don't get the hate for flatpaks

>>100153681
Me neither. I even like snaps.

I'm thinking tumbleweed, how's it been for you guys?

>>100153681
I think most of the hate comes from the initial large downloads when first installing them where they reach hundreds of megabytes in size. Though after all that's done, when new Flatpaks are installed they'll just use the already installed dependency packages and will be much smaller.

>>100152541
There aren't any that matter. Just learn bash because old time shell syntax is the standard.

>>100153710
>when new Flatpaks are installed they'll just use the already installed dependency packages
So... like every package manager ever?

>>100153706
i prefer fedora

>>100153288
Prob arch linux maybe. Would have helped if the guy did neofetch in his terminal

>>100153730
Basically, just the binaries are now containerised.
Flatpak hate to me just kinda odd tbqh. It's great for people that need it sometimes, like on Debian.

>>100153706
Didnt tumbleweed get xz backdoored lmao

>>100153752
oh fugg

>>100153288
>>100153741
Literally any distro with hyprland.

>>100153081
thx
>>100153388
use cinnamon
>>100153706
had it on my previous laptop, it was broken for whatever reason complaining about missing libraries or something like that, I never got to fix that and it was a fresh install. I like yast doe

Use Debian Stable

>>100152929
Hi, ebussy!

>>100153706
Eh it's okay, been running it for a couple of years now. If I didn't I would probably be on Fedora. Haven't heard of anyone else doing a tested rolling release distro.

>>100153007
This applies to Lubuntu, not sure how similar the process is on other distros. This is just looking at my old notes from when I remapped stuff some time ago.

Various keyboard layout files are available in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols
I believe you can either modify an existing one or create your own new one (I'm not sure how to check which one you are currently using, but that should be easy enough to figure out with a web search), but if creating a new file you'll also need to add it to the list in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst under ! layout
When I did it I created my own new one by just copy/pasting from the basic US qwerty layout into a new file and modifying what I wanted modified, then saving it.
Key name assignments are in /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev

To apply keyboard changes for keyboard file named xx (with xx just being an example. you can call it whatever you want), enter in the terminal: setxkbmap -layout "xx"
Restart session or remove .xkm files from /var/lib/xkb to apply changes

If keyboard changes reset on logout, you can make an executable file and set it to autorun on login. At least in Lubuntu, you'll just have to put the file in ~/.config/autostart
The executable file (again using the "xx" example) would contain the following:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Switch To Custom Keyboard
Exec=setxkbmap -layout "xx"
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=System;


Sorry if this is unclear/convoluted, I am just taking this from notes I wrote for myself a long time ago of the process that worked for me when I was remapping a few keys, not sure how similar the process will be for you. If this isnt clear enough then I guess look up a guide from someone who knows what they're talking about (unlike me)

best distro for enjoying trap porn?

>>100153902
AntiX

>>100153902
windows

>>100152520
ah Ebussy, my beloved.

>>100153902
Install Gentoo

>>100153937
he said trap porn not furry trap porn

>>100153980
Install Arch

>>100152905
Use pikeru. New rust version coming soon, but the current pyshit version is still the best filepicker available for now

I just installed linux mint cinnamon and the default browser it uses is firefox. What browsers do you guys use?...i was told chromium/firefox/edge is dogshit, so what does that leave? i'm currently checking out Vivaldi

>>100154541
I use Firefox
Vivaldi isn't oben sores

>>100154541
ive always used firefox

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>>100154561
>>100154569
thanks frens.

>>100154541
Always Firefox.

>>100154561
I occasionally glance at Vivaldi because in a sense it's really an extension of the original Opera before it was bought by a chinese company and turned into just another Chromium browser with chinese spyware in it, cause it's spearheaded by an original Opera dev.

>>100154541
they are all dogshit, so you use the least dogshit, which is firefox.
I wish I could ditch it for all the bullshit it pulls, but I really can't since there is nothing to switch to.

>>100154541
Librewolf. Or waterfox if you need chromium extensions but a firefox base.

>>100154683
exactly this

>>100154530
90% of the time Firefox, with a Flatpak of the shill Lion for odd websites.

ok Linux bros I want to install a distro on an external nvme I have so I can play around with it on and off without any hassle. can I just plug this in and install to it and have its own boot manager stay the fuck away from the windows one that exists on an internal nvme? I want them completely seperate but don't want to have to remove the internal one to prevent either playing funny games with the others bootloader.

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>>100152520
I don't know what the fuck is going on but this is driving me insane, whenever i listen to certain songs/videos i hear this fucking thumping sound throughout the entire thing that i've never encountered before. I switched to mint literally 2 hours ago. Google didn't come up with shit. It's maddening.

>>100155092
Not sure if you can boot from an external drive. Otherwise, yes, you can have 2 sets of bootloaders and systems that don't touch each other. (If both are internal at least, not sure about external)

>>100155092
>>100155201
P.S.: I give no guarantees about windows not trying to touch your linux drive.

>>100155171
what do you mean by thumping sound? try messing around with pavucontrol settings

Yesterday I applied some updates to F39, later I noticed Wayland going nuts, when I drag a window around it leaves orphans behind, sort of like ghosting but not blurry. On X11 for the time being. Anyone else experience this. I have a Radeon card.

>>100155219
It sounds like someone's knocking on a door every second. and i don't know what a pavucontrol is, i'm a freshly birthed linux bab

>>100155233
it stands for pulse audio volume control, it's a program to change sound settings, i find it to be more robust than the sound thingy mint comes with, just do: sudo apt install pavucontrol
you should also mare sure to update everything and reboot and see if that magically fixes it

>>100155327
lol you doxed yourself
enjoy getting swatted soon

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>>100155171
When I first installed Mint I had an issue with sound too, you're not alone. I made some weird change to PulseAudio I found online.

I had some weird crackling sound with it randomly popping. The only change I made was this that I found in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf

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>>100155367
no problem

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>>100155376
lol nevermind that really is just my motherboard, fucking nigger had me spooked

What's the difference between Distrobox and Toolbox? What's the one you should use nowadays?

>>100155387
should pick something more generic anyways, like user@computer or something.

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>>100155371
this shit is so complicated, i'm gonna neck myself soon
>>100155422
i tried to change my username but i keep getting errors. i'm about to go back to being a windowsfag

>>100155438
You need to be root to edit anything in /etc/. Most people just edit /etc/ files using vim/nano via sudo.

>>100155438
Save that file somewhere you can write, like your desktop, then do: sudo cp ~/Desktop/bullshit.conf /etc/pulse/daemon.conf

>>100155392
> Distrobox
For gui/desktop.
>Toolbox?
For cli.
>What's the one you should use nowadays?
chroot/systemd-nspawn/docker/bublewarp depending on the usecase.

>>100155465
i usually just do sudo vi "file", but learning vi is a whole process too with the whole escape :wq and all that.

>>100155438
Also for what it's worth, the only problem I've ever had with my linux installation was the crackling sound and I fixed it. Been running stable for years now with no changes.

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>>100152520

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>>100155465
>>100155496
>>100155452
i did it. i used nano to change the values in the text file but the sound is still wonky, i'm just going to deal with it at this point.

>>100155574
Did you restart pulseaudio?
>>100155492
Nano is fine. 90% of the time people won't use vi well enough to make it worth learning. Or even edit text in general.

>>100152520
Can I use Linux LTS as a desktop for many years as long as the hardware does the job (I don't like upgrading Linux)? What do End of Standard Support and End of Life mean?

I've been using cinnamon for a long time now and I want to try other DE's, is there a way to try/install multiple DE's in a system without breaking or it's better to use a VM?

>>100155864
You can try creating diferent users for them and make sure you don't use more than one single unique DE per user. That should at least make sure your GTK configs don't get mixed up.

I don't understand; what is the use-case for this thread?

>>100152541
people usually install bunch of extensions and omz with zsh for comfier completion, highlighting and what not. Scripting wise it supports whatever bash supports for the most part and maybe some more.
Sure, you can achieve same with bash but it's easier to just install omz and be done with it.

>using mint
>disable secboot
>install nvidia driver
>get stuck on my background image after logging in, only the grub menu works

I just wanna emulate some fucking games and watch tranime im tired of wrestling with this avant garde ass operating system

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>>100155994
hello sir would you have considering java certified OS fedora 40?

>>100155994
>and watch tranime
Don't encourage shitty memes.

>>100156047
But /g/ says anime will trigger gender disphoria of those who watch it and most of them are linux users.

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>>100156030

Does someone got a cute anime girl wallpaper for Fedora 39?

>>100156258
You can just search Wallpaper Abyss for anime girl wallpapers.

How do I know Rocky won't go the way of CentOS?

>>100156302
Rocky (and Alma) were created to continue CentOS as it was. Why would they ever pivot when it's their entire function?

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>>100155438
>about to go back

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>>100156355
i'm just griping, you fucking sissy edgelord

meanwhile i'm about to tear my hair out, i installed nvidia drivers and my games refuse to utilize my gpu no matter what i do

>>100156285
But those are not hitting quite the mark.

>>100155830
>Can I use Linux LTS as a desktop for many years
That's the whole point.
>What do End of Standard Support
No more updates without a Pro subscription
>and End of Life mean?
No more updates. For 24.04, that is 10-12 years from now.

>>100155994
>>using mint
>>disable secboot
Two mistakes, one user

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 pacman -Qdtq | pacman -Rns - 

seems like it removes more than just unused packages? like cmake and a lot of other essential stuff seems like it gets removed?

>>100156602
Personally the way I use it if I don't just use "paru -c" like I usually do is "sudo pacman -Rns $(pacman -Qtdq)
These commands should only remove orphan packages.

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>>100152520
hello frens, i am new to linux and am using mint (cinnamon). i'm having a tremendous amount of trouble getting games to utilize my graphics card. i installed the necessary drivers, i spent about an hour looking for solutions and it seems that this OS simply does not like my 3060ti. is there really nothing i can do?

Hey does anyone know if the Debian Live iso installer includes other install options, such as the regular debian net install? Or is it just the live OS+calamares option?

>>100156704
In your case I would've probably used Mint Edge instead of the base Mint Cinnamon.

>>100152541
I don't do much scripting, so ZSH and it's extensions are better for my use case. You usually have to have bash installed anyway so there's no real reason not to use bash for scripts.

>>100153347
I look like that

>>100156733
Don't be teasing your onii-san like that, young lady.

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>>100156702
>>100156602
Can't you guys just use Discover or something similar?
Stuff like `bomberman -qtddtot` is just lame in 2024.

First let's check if you're using the proprietary drivers. Run this command:
lsmod | grep nv

On the left side of the column you should see a bunch of Nvidia modules with names like "nvidia drm, nvidia-modeset, nvidia" if these exist you're using the good drivers.

if they don't exist try lsmod | grep nouv, if you get a hit with that, this means you're using the open-source drivers named nouveau. These are dogshit. If niether outputs any modules then do lspci -nnk | grep -i vga to see what graphics you have on your system. It might be the case that you're in a hybrid mode and are using your CPU's integrated graphics such as intel UHD graphics, in which case you'll need to use NVIDIA prime which takes a bit of know how since cinnamon doesn't have an in-built gpu switcher like gnome's switcheroo.

>>100156777
I will continue to use what I use. Sorry fren.

>>100156782
meant for>>100156704

>>100156258
https://konachan.com/ has high-res anime pics. There's also >>>/w/2254981.

>>100156777
arch doesnt recommend discover for whatever reason

>>100156704
Did you restart after installing the drivers?

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I have installed LibreWolf in Debian via adding source for APT. I would like a second instance of it to run a second profile. Do I understand correctly that the appimage will run in parallel and that it isn't bloated ass like a flatpak container?

Sidenote: what's the fukken deal with LibreWolf's "don't think just run these one-size-fits-all commands!" apt install process? I used their wget | gpg command for the key but deciphered the rest of that shit and just made the source file myself.

>>100156828
Because Arch doesn't really recommend using pacman through a GUI and to just use it through the command line.

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>>100156782
i did everything you said and it seems that i have the right drivers installed, and that the system does recognize my gpu. i'll have to figure that prime shit out i guess.
>>100156833
yep tons of times. and for some reason my desktop won't load unless i use wayland. that happened after i disabled UEFI and installed the drivers for my gpu.

>>100156883
>i'll have to figure that prime shit out i guess.
PRIME is only neccessary in the case that you have integrated graphics enabled in your BIOS. This is usually OFF for desktops, but turned on by default for Laptops -- are you on a gaming laptop?

For my gaming laptop, I have debian installed with gnome. My advice to you would be to install the gnome desktop environment. I don't know how that's done on the mint/ubuntu repo. Check google. It's fairly simple to do and you just logout and run games by clicking "run with discrete graphics card"

Now if above isn't the case and you're running wth a single gpu, then could it be you have the wrong cable connected to your monitor? Are you sure the cable that connects directly to your GPU is connected to your monitor, and that the cable is not connected to your mobo instead? This may lead to lower FPS(assuming the issue is lowFPS/bad performance -- and not that games don't even start.)

>>100156818
>>/w/2254981
Thanks, anon.

>>100156846
>I would like a second instance
Create a launcher and append the profile name to the command. You don't need to install a browser twice.

>>100156868
>Arch doesn't recommend
Sounds like cope for not having a GUI more than anything.

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Still setting it up, but i'm finding LInux to be quite comfy. I like how sleek this version is (MInt) and i feel like a proper big nerd when i'm typing away in the terminal with my mechanical keyboard. I'm looking forward to learning how to use this Operating System, i've been using WIndows for over 20 years now and have just been feeling bored lately, like i want a challenge. But for now i'm about to make a cuppa and watch some Anime on my very cool open-source media player.

>>100157326
>Sounds like cope for not having a GUI more than anything.
Is this bait?

>>100157424
Are you fish?

>>100157448
No. I'm a cute transwoman :3

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>>100152327
>MS Gothic works fine in OS, but not browser.
>I've tried many fonts, unfortunately it's just the browser engines being retarded for some reason.
>All fonts look blurry to me, there's no exception.
Well, have you actually tried the one I told you about? The "Helvetica" from Chicago95? I haven't tried many fonts, but this one renders fine for me. Picrel is Tahoma, which is as blurry as you say.

>>100152520
defund the gnome foundation

>>100156704
I'm convinced these nvidia tards are just Russian bots at this point. How can someone be so fucking stupid.

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS>>100156712

>>100157507
How would Gnome run a country?

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I want to delete some packages that installed with the primary one I installed. How can I see what I installed along with the package? even if it was installed a few days ago.

Using Pacman.

>>100157326
It's because pacman expects to be ran from the terminal? A GUI just obfuscates it.

>>100157382
Based and comfy. Using the terminal does make you feel like a hackerman.

>>100157833
Should in not give you an a list of options when you boot it up for the first time?

I think you can get the netboot one from the website.

>>100157893
it should give you a list of boot options i just don't feel like creating a USB installer to check. Was hoping someone who installed Debian via the LIVE installer recently would remember if it had the netinstaller option too.

>>100152520
>have to look at ebussy's face in the catalog

>>100157916
I'm sure if I remember correctly it does, but don't take my word for it.

>>100157876
I didn't mean a GUI for pacman. I meant a GUI for package management.
The same way Firefox isn't a GUI for `wget`.

>>100157853
can someone please answer my question.

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>>100152865
Anyone still using CentOS 7? Does using it so close to EOL make things difficult, or does everything still work nicely? What are you all migrating to?

>>100158170
The main distros everyone migrated to were Rocky Linux and Alma Linux, both spiritual continuations of it.

Using Fedora 40 KDE Plasma Wayland.
I changed my ~/.conf/user-dirs.dirs
e.g:
#XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents"
XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Sync/Documents"

I tried xdg-user-dirs-update and rebooting and opening Documents still opens the old location.
echo $XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR
is empty.
The web says this files is being used for the association, but it's not in my case. Why?

Can someone review my attempt at a minimal Debian KDE install? I'm trying to install Debian KDE on a desktop without the bloat but still have core features.

step 1. install debian without a DE
step 2. install network-manager
step 3. run

 sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop sddm qml-module-org-kde-kitemmodels kwin-x11 kscreen upower systemsettings kde-config-screenlocker --no-install-recommends 

I think most things are covered here while keeping out bloat, but if you see anything I'm missing that will render my KDE session unusable PLEASE let me know. This is my first time trying something like this, so any advice would be appreciated.

>>100158540
Well I don't see Konsole or Yakauke there, but I dunno if Debian doesn't just put that in the kde-plasma-desktop meta package.

>>100158540
KDE is terrible, don't do it.

>>100158562
oh you're right. Where the hell is it can't find it. While looking for i realized i forgot audio.. pipwire seems to be the best. Also do you know if I need plasma-nm or not? this package caught my eye and it is in some of the recommends.
>>100158593
is it? to be honest I'm only installing it because i need a DE that runs SDDM by default. My other option is LXQt, do you have any experience with this DE?

>>100158663
Pipewire with its Pulseaudio/ALSA/JACK emulators and Wireplumber should be all you need for sound. The plasma-nm package is so you have a native GUI for networkmanager which you should also download, which'll deal with your internet connections.
Also when it comes to KDE "being bad" it's just that for certain people it seems to be kinda janky sometimes, but honestly it's the most feature rich Linux DE out there currently, so just try it yourself.

>>100158689
>Pipewire with its Pulseaudio/ALSA/JACK emulators and Wireplumber should be all you need for sound.
oh your right I almost took the wrong package. I need pipewire-audio which has everything you listed.

yea i've been on linux for almost 2 years and never used another DE except gnome, so i wanted to try something new. Also SDDM is the only display manager that lets me detach and reattach my nvidia card without giving me weird black screens. gdm makes me use kernel modesetting which messes up my hook scripts so right now I'm using sddm with gnome but there are so many weird quirks and work around with this setup. and I'm quite frankly tired of all the weird shit with wayland so going for native x11 and sddm will hopefully be much smoother experience.

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>mfw i've just spent 4 hours trying to fix my audio popping
>mfw i ditched windows just to struggle to listen to fucking music without jumping through a thousand hoops
>here, anon, have a listen! it's my favorite song!
>POP! POP! CRACK! BUZZ! POP!

FOR THE SAKE OF FUCK, HELP MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

>>100159094
Need more info anon. what hardware, distro, desktop environment and audio package/s you you using?
>be me, windows 11
>have old focusrite interface with ancient drivers that pop every time i switch a window
>install arch
>never popped once since

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>>100152245
thank you, fren. i somehow remembered it as st patch(and actually found one but half assed and old) but it was dwm patch all along
found devour instead, looks good so far.

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>>100159191
>hardware
see image
>distro
linux mint/cinnamon
>audio packages
i just tried to install pipewire but it was being fucky, pulse is the default

>>100159094
Mint ALWAYS has weird bugs in my laptop. I think NVIDIA and audio/bluetooth driver people hate linux. I switched to fedora and then never had a problem again ever.

Are there any native hex editors with custom table support? Searching this is just giving me people who are equally stumped on this problem.

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Lutris's wine version decided to shit itself and not recognize both my headphones and controller.

I'm running GoG games with Glorious Eggroll's wine and those are the only ones affected.

>>100159266
did you install this pipewire package? if not this may be the issue.
https://packages.ubuntu.com/mantic/pipewire-audio

Sorry I should have been more specific by hardware I meant, are you using an audio interface? Computer sound card? Ur monitor's in-built sound, etc... Are you using speakers or headphones? audio equipment can be finicky could be so many things.

>>100152520
>discovered 45gb unallocated space on a shitter laptop
What distro goes in here?

>>100152520
I like to watch Japanese Linux videos because I identify as transjapanese
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hoGniNkyRPA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ0dY37MHvU

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>>100159356
i'm installing kubuntu.

>>100159406
i thought Japanese people were just discovering windows. don't they still all use fax machines and flip phones over there? thought the closest they got to a pc was a video game console. I bet the people installing linux are uber otaku neet fucks

>>100152862
You shouldn't have issues if it's a .deb but if it's a repo you might want to confirm first that they have an <x> build for whatever you're upgrading to. Like mega.nz has its own repos but they have different ones for Debian 11 and 12. It didn't break anything for me but I updated the source anyway.

>>100159453
Windows has always been around anon shit like Windows 95/98 was huge back then, seen as the next step from NEC PCs.
Linux has always been more of the deeper PC hobbyist thing over there. More Akiba then not.

>>100159446
>installing an entire new distro to fix one problem
been there myself when i was new to linux. It usually fixes the issue but you're using a sledge hammer to crack a nut. you should eventually learn to trouble-shoot since that part of life on linux will never go away. the endless tinkering. Be sure to install a fully featured DE that just werks out of the box this time and gl

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>>100159527
>you're using a sledgehammer to crack a nut

at this point it feels like the appropriate response after spending many hours trying to fix something as simple and essential as audio, thanks tho anon

>>100154541
seconding >>100154873 , librewolf is the sane flavour of furryfox. might need some tweaking but the defaults are pretty good and just werks (tm)
i wish installers gave the option for the browser to be installed, but eh.

>>100159560
Librewolf is just Firefox with some settings pre-tweaked and UBO installed by default.

>>100159403
Void

>>100159453
Apparently they are also worried about where to go with W11 no longer supporting their PCs

>>100159571
yeah, so what? I don't want to root through 20 million retarded settings just to escape Mozilla's niggerlicious defaults. librewolf also has made some settings easier to adjust. basically, if you care, librewolf is good, if you don't care, libre wolf is good.

>>100159630
I don't like this trend. non-western linux users scare me. FOSS is about trust and i don't trust foreigners who can't into western values at least a little.

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>>100159527
>boot up kubuntu
>check it out for a bit
>boot into mint to back a few files up
>it unfucked itself

>>100159715
wat

>>100152865
As a colourblind person, I have to say that logo has the most retarded combination of colours possible. Green/orange and blue/purple look practically the same to me.

>>100159715
I was under the impression that outside of localization they just mooch off westoid development

Can someone tell me why Arch won't boot after I install it?

After pacstrap I do mkinitcpio, install x86_64-efi grub as normal, put my luksUUID cryptdevice in grub, put my home UUID in crypttab, set 400 permissions for the keyfile, reboot.

Just shows my SSD name and refreshes it every time I click boot. Showing ufibootmgr lists the 13th entry as grub, partition 1, etc. So I know it's installed properly.

I've got

+1GiB ef00 /boot
+30GiB 0083 /
+400GiB 0083 /home

Do I have to export BOOTLOADER=grub before installing grub? It said no errors, though

I hope I don't have to mess around creating an /efi partition instead of /boot because I've never got that shit to work.

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>>100157382
it's a good idea to start with something easy like mint even if you plan on diving in, since it allows you to break things at your own pace
there's no shame in it, nobody is an expert overnight

>>100159715
This is such a weird statement to make in 2024. Some of the earliest linux distros were developed by non-Westerners, programming languages, desktop environments, etc.

>>100159784
Kubuntu does wonders

>>100159883
Did you grub-mkconfig?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsm7tiyA3TA

linux is in shamble. its actually over.

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>>100160545
>This exploit happens to an MS repo
>Instantly gets fixed
>Otherwise it's been around for a couple months now with MS not really thinking about it
As usual only taking action when it effects them.

recently installed arch with kde 6, i'm using X11 and it just werks.
should i even bother with wayland? i have an nvidia card and despite doing all the stuff in the wiki it still feels kinda buggy when i switch to wayland. would there even be an actual benefit?

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All this distrobox talk in the latest threads makes me wonder, how do graphic applications even manage to work without borking themselves? Shouldn't running software compiled with a vastly different version of Xorg/Wayland compositor in mind (i.e. a Debian host running something from a Fedora container) cause a whole load of issues?
>>100159784
Probably was because a bad pulseaudio config that got updated but the process didn't pick right away.

>>100161091
wayland is going to implement explicit sync and will save nvidia users. read more upon it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-F1Exi4o0U
9:19

this sounds retarded but are you able to save JPG, PNGs and webms on linux systems?

>>100161256
my frog collection says yes

>>100161279
do you need anything special to install or is it installed for example if you use fedora

>>100161292
I havent used fedora before but i'm sure it simply functions without any haxx. what is even your concern?

>>100161091
Nah, KDE will just advocate moving to it at some point in the future, hopefully it will be a seamless experience. I wouldn't worry about the X11 vs wayland meme that /g/ has going on.

It will all be wayland in the future, but no need to rush into it

>>100161309
just a question. as you can see you are talking to someone who has never touched linux before and is considering to switch. windows 11 buckbroke me

>>100161256
Yes anon you can download images on linux, why are you even asking that?

>>100161357
need anything special for webms?

>>100152520
the most punchable face in the world

>>100161366
the only thing you might need to tinker with is thumbnails. i think there are some file explorers (e.g. dolphin) where you dont have thumbnails from the getgo, but its easy

>>100161392
clarification: video thumbnails

>>100161366
You can download them like any other file.

>>100161480
maybe i have outdated mind about linux. i always think it cant do shit unless you have to do hack000r l33t shit

>>100161292
Fedora supports images OOB but for video there're a few missing codecs due of patent encumbering, you have to add and use the RPMFusion repository and install the additional codecs required.

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>that caution warning
why is everything linux related always so SUS. it makes me paranoid

>>100161597
now let me tell you about this thing called xz...

>>100161855
xz was in mainline rawhide not rpmfusion

$ compsize -x /
Type       Perc     Disk Usage   Uncompressed Referenced  
TOTAL       50%      2.7G         5.3G         5.7G       
none       100%      777M         777M         782M       
zstd        42%      1.9G         4.5G         4.9G

How do I into btrfs and compression? The output above states that only 2.7G should be used but opening Dolphin and navigating to / says that ~6G are actually occupied.

>>100161917
dolphin will show the size of the files as if they weren't compressed, not how much space they are physically using

>>100148122
nothing lmao, it's a cheapo VPS with just a znc instance that I had forgotten about for a year
I was trying to set up frp or wireguard to tunnel into my office network but for some reason I can't access any ports on it from outside (even though there's no firewall rule blocking them) so I thought I might as well restart it

>>100157833
Use the regular, live uses calamares as default, and even if you use the "regular" debian installer, for some reason it will still install packages from live ISO
>>100159094
sound like an ALSA issue I had on a very old PC. What do you use? Pulseaudio? Pipewire?

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What is a good distro for an old Chromebook with a 16G HDD?

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>>100161597
Here's my advice – grab it:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
This is the final ISO, it gets released tomorrow.
No messing with codecs, drivers, or gnomes.

my first 4chan post as a linux users though its a virtualbox for now. how do i take a screenshot of my desktop? and why does the kitty terminal look so glitchy

>>100163179
whatever
just don't install the default and make your own minimal install or go with something like arch
go for debian/buntu if updates take too long

>>100152520
What's the usecase for a gnu/linux thread?

Is KDE Neon fine for general use and development or is it just a KDE showcase type of thing?
From my understanding it's just Ubuntu LTS but with the latest KDE stuff

>>100161091
There are some Wayland exclusive Plasma features, middle click paste toggle comes to mind for example.

>>100161597
No economic incentive to hide it. MS store, various smartphone appstores, etc should have it too. It's just good practice to be aware of this.

If I want Linux on my desktop and currently use a macbook (free because work paid for it), just how well does shit carry over?
Like in terms of programs, things like Libreoffice, etc, how similar is it or is it like the fuck of MS shit being only usable on Windows if you want it working properly

>>100163697
depends what programs
libreoffice would work exactly the same since it's cross-platform

>>100163825
I suppose anything cross-platform
Anything that absolutely won't work without some fuckery, like photoshop, I can run from macbook for the most part since everything I actually need for works runs on it in some form

I just want to avoid an excel situation for example where I have to use it on Windows

>>100156777
>Can't you guys just use Discover or something similar?
Used to use pamac when I was on manjaro
for some reason it would just freeze, never had that issue with pacman, so I just use pacman
I also had the same issue with dejadupe, had to spend hours trying to get my backups back

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How reliable are Btrfs snapshots on Fedora? Are they good enough to witstand major version jumps?

>>100163932
btrfs subvolumes and snapshots been stable for quite some time

>>100163974
You say? i feel a strong urge to try Fedora w/ Plasma spin right now, many software that i use has Flatpak builds now but i need a newer version of Docker than what's available for Debian for work.
I could also try with Kionite though i feel like i'd end layering codecs and shit anyways. Might as well just install distrobox on the regular workstation.

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Besides Rufus which other program can I use to create a bootable USB?

>>100164200
balena etcher

>>100164238
>balena etcher
could you even type those words out with a straight face?

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>>100164238
>>100164276
I just need an alternative in case Rufus doesn't work out, I forgot the specific program I saw these days.

>>100164200
ventoy

>>100164385
>I forgot the specific program I saw these days.
Ventoy?

>>100164385
ventoy

My pihole is acting like a dying old man today and wont let me ssh into it
It usually just says port 22: no route to host but it sometimes prompts me for a password before being unresponsive. On rare occassions, i actually get in for less than a minute before it freezes
Anyone have any idea on what could be causing this? Its acting like its being stressed but on the pihole webpage, the memory usage is only at 17% and the cpu is doing okay too

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>>100164420
>>100164423
>>100164429
Thanks, I found out the one i was looking for, it was balena.

>>100164447
ventoy is better

How do I prepare a ssd for a fresh install?
I run wipefs -a /dev/sda but mkfs.* still complains about there being something on the disk and bails.

>>100164851
You don't have to do anything, there is no "preparation" before an install.
>mkfs.* still complains
doubt.wav
There is always something on a disk, yet people don't run into your issues. Maybe your filesystem is still mounted when you try to format it?

>>100164851
>>100164945
https://github.com/util-linux/util-linux/issues/1228

I want to dual boot, because some software I need is on Windows only (and I don't want to run a VM)
Am I right in that it works on the same drive so long as Windows doesn't fuck with the boot loader and as such, not updating Windows would mean the Linux OS is untouched?

Would it be possible at least, to take files from the Windows partition (just generic files like zips, etc) and use them on Linux when booted into Linux?

>>100159406
Is that TTS or somebody talking on the phone? Sounds like that old robot voice lol

>>100165185
>Would it be possible at least, to take files from the Windows partition (just generic files like zips, etc) and use them on Linux when booted into Linux
yes, this is very doable
you can flag the drive to automount on boot so it'll just sit there

>>100165112
>2023-06-16: Could you provide a concrete test protocol to reproduce the issue?
Sounds like the "issue" isn't that widespread of nobody could provide logs in 11 months.
I still don't see the problem. You can format filesystems irrespective of any wiping, that's how things always worked.

>>100164851
>wipefs
Useless. Either use dd to wipe a chunk off the start of the partition, or just confirm to mkfs.* that you want to overwrite. And unmount your shit before you do it.

I have a really stupid question, can I use a really old laptop with just a base linux install as a music player with something like cmus? No xorg or any gui.

>>100165393
sure you can
why not

>>100165393
Why not just install Debian XFCE or Alpine on it? Unless is a Sub 2GBs RAM toaster.

>>100165403
I dunno, I thought things like pipewire or pulseaudio needed a gui to work, I'm really new to this.

>>100165427
Currently it's running Arch+XFCE and while it works fine I use it only for Cmus, so figured I might as well just go lower.

why is vnc such a slow protocol ? I am connecting from my laptop over to my desktop both on wifi, but I am pretty fucking sure that wifi is not the problem since I am able to 'stream' 1080p 60fps on the same connection via sshfs, and vnc is just the fucking cursor moving on the screen and windows floating around, any alternatives on linux ?

What's the best filesystem to use these days? BTRFS for snapshops vs. ext4?

>>100165475
if you want something simple use ext4
if you think btrfs has cool features you would use use btrfs

>>100165473
xrdp

>>100165427
im not the one you responded but still, debian with xfce run mid on 1gb ram old ass netbook but debian lxqt run really well, so even sub 2gb "toaster" can handle this

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>>100165762
>mid

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did they forget to launch mesa 24.1 rc1 or something? where is it

How does it feel to use a TUI file manager? Particularly coming from using windows explorer.

>>100166115
I feel like a god.

>>100166115
Feels like 1993.

>>100166115
you feel like a retard that just wasted his time

>>100166115
Feels nice IMO.

>>100166115
its fucking confusing at first but it makes sense to just type the path instead of looking for a folder icon

>>100166115
there’s a reason why people are still using norton commander clones to this day

>>100166199
>>100166268
>>100166269
>>100166286
>>100166296
>>100166307
I'm thinking things like not having drag and drop between two windows in entirely different directories (each navigated to directory by directory because the user doesn't have the path memorized), scrolling through a filelist for bulk selection rather than flicking the mouse between items or dragging a selection box over several at once, being in an image/video directory and only getting one thumbnail at a time.

hi frens i have 6.8.7-arch1-1 suddenly ssh has notificiable input delay. fedora 40 on the same machine has no input delay, how to unfuck?

>>100166488
>bro found the exploit
>>100166477
you are free to have a shit experience using a tui file manager

>>100166488
that's just jia tan's other backdoor

>>100166115
I like Norton Commander clones but i've been using Double Commander the most lately.

>>100166512
>you are free to have a shit experience using a tui file manager
the point of the question is obviously what value gain there is in the tradeoff you obnoxious nigger

>>100166541
you looking like an absolute dork using it
that's the value gain for me if you are going to use a tui file manager

>>100166512
>>100166529
Should I just give up on Arch for a couple months then?

>>100166477
I used Windows 3.11. The file manager there was a two-pane graphical version of most TUI file managers. Windows 95's Explorer was a breath of fresh air and file browsing freedom.

>>100166556
you should just give up in general

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>>100166556
You already have to if you use KDE anyway.

>>100166577
You're supposed to be friendly faggot

>>100166593
nuh uh

>>100166566
winfile was much better anyways
explorer was shit from the start

>>100166654
>winfile was much better
Yeah, nah. I also used laplink on DOS, and FlashFXP years later. I don't miss that kind of interface.

>>100166115
Is there a GUI file manager that operates like a TUI one? All the keyboard benefits but letting you use a mouse where it's easier?

>>100165187
I think they are supposed to be vocaloids, normally they use Reimu from Touhou but i don't know who those 2 are

>>100166748
All dual-pane FMs are keyboard-first. Try Double Commander, for example.
Dolphin is more awkward in regards to keyboard, but also mostly keyboard-driven.

does anyone actually use tiling window managers? is there any way to get thumbnails of files without hovering over it?

>>100167038
I think you've to install a package that generates them, like ffmpeg-thumbnailer.

I haven't been buck-broken enough into using Linux yet, but I think I'll finally dip my toes into it by keeping a VM of a distro around and slowly customizing it to get a feel for how it works.

>>100154541
Librewolf which is more based firefox

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Anyone here that uses custom Fedora Atomic Images? I'm interesed, but also mentally challenged, this topic is a bit confusing. After doing my own surface research, it seems like there're two straightfoward templates to create your own images
https://github.com/ublue-os/image-template
https://github.com/blue-build/template
I find annoying having to relayer RPMFusion shit so it sounds convenient, ut i feel like i'm biting more than what a newfag can eat with this topic. So, i have a few question: going down this route means is up to me to update the script, build and rebase my own custom image every time i want to install an update? Do i really need to do this using Github actions or can i download and build the images myself? What are the possible base images i can choose from in the build process? Can i i.e. switch from Silverblue to Kionite?

>>100165762
Debian can go even lower if you specialize on it at the cost of support for fancier features, like AntiX (which is Debian based).

>>100165681
thx, installed it but just got a bluescreen and I am too lazy to find out whats wrong, found x2go as an alternative while searching how to fix that, and it works great.
>>100167733
just use linux mint

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>>100157382
update: i just spent 15 hours fiddling and tinkering with my system and i finally got my games to run, i updated my kernel, and i learned how to use cmus. i didn't think i'd have fun fucking around with a new operating system. i can't wait to learn more, i'm interested in learning the terminology now. currently using freecodecamp but if there's a channel that's better for newbs then please let me know.

can someone feed a dumbass a hyprland window rule to force all windows of a certain class, like kitty, to be in a single, floating, tabbed group?

is there anyway to see my wireless mouse battery?

>>100167906
is bluefin (and bazzite) not enough to toy with ? seem difficult for newfag to make these images without the knowledge

>>100168298
I am more of a fan of Plasma. Seems like they have an image based on Kionite called Aurora, but is a bit bloated. Guess that'll do it for now.

I'm a Linux newb. What DE should I try/get?
>I like Windows 9x till 8.1 desktop and taskbar.
>I like similar OS-styles like the ones said above, e.g. OS/2.
>I like to have a "Start"-button and a startmenu. Bottom preferred, top works too.
>I don't like Apple-style OS and newer Windows-style.
>Fancy stuff is not necessary needed.
>I welcome the ability to customize stuff.
>I welcome it if its lightweight, but it isn't necessary.
There seem to be so many DE options, which one fulfill my wishes?
Also, does any of the bigger distros have the ability to choose between every DE?

>>100168702
MATE or KDE.

>>100168718
Thanks anon.
My first look tells me that KDE has more features, so I guess that MATE is the lightweight of these 2?
What's the biggest difference between these 2?
I see that they have different application suits, like every DE and different features.

>>100165978
it's zoom for meh

Is it worth trying to circumvent the cancer that is Google's Youtube frontend?

I wouldn't mind making a userscript to send links to Invidious but it looks like instances are being hit hard by Google blackballing (something like half of videos on an instance won't load - whatever detection is involved, it targets by IP so admins are having to cycle their IPv6) and it's apparently even affecting private instances despite it having been thought to mostly affect bigger public ones.

What about yt-dl? I see it can be piped to a media player but is that not just an unseekable stream? I don't mind, even kinda prefer, fully downloading content from creators that I know I want to watch in full but there's still a lot of usage where that just sucks.

>>100169492
>is that not just an unseekable stream?
seeking is possible
mpv can do it

>>100152520
>Friendly
>Post unfriendly person
What did you mean by this?

>>100169492
Loading youtube videos through mpv+yt-dlp has been the way to go for ages. You can seek the videos fine.

>>100166477
>drag and drop between two windows in entirely different directories
not needed. lf (the best tui file manager) uses a server to communicate between windows. you can copy in one window and paste into the other with keybinds.
>scrolling through a filelist for bulk selection rather than flicking the mouse between items
you don't have to scroll one by one when page up/down exists and is faster than scrolling because you can just hold the key down and have it repeat. also there are tui file managers that have mouse support, again lf being one of them.
>or dragging a selection box over several at once
with tui file managers you can select the first and last file, then have a key bind to select everything in between.
>being in an image/video directory and only getting one thumbnail at a time.
yea this one is an understandable concern. although with a combination of window swallowing and nsxiv's thumbnail mode you can emulate a traditional file explorers thumbnail view reasonably well.

Debian vs Debian Edu
Why is edu 8 GB in size and therefor 2 times the size of the standard version? Does it contains 4 GB of education stuff? What's the actual difference between these 2?

>>100170475
Education versions of distros usually contain schoolwork suite like programs for math/calculus and the like.

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>>100152520
I have a ThinkPad X240 with Nobara and ive noticed its really slow when it comes to certain things, slower than Windows. for example, Steam library view is extremely slow, scrolling through the games is extremely laggy, i have tested enabling/disabling GPU Acceleration, switching from Wayland to X11 and its still slow, opening youtube lags the entire computer and watching videos is very slow, i installed the extension that converts youtube to h264 and it improved it a little bit but overall its a much slower experience
the laptop has
>i5 4300u
>intel hd 4400 gpu
>8gb ram

This is a really stupid shellcheck warning:
https://www.shellcheck.net/wiki/SC2016
Anyone using single quotes is doing so on purpose.

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Please help! My laptop can't boot into Ubuntu or windows after hard reboot. Fdisk doesn't detect my SSD, But lsblk does

# lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
loop0    7:0    0 220.9M  1 loop /initrd/pup_ro2
loop1    7:1    0  68.8M  1 loop /initrd/pup_f
loop2    7:2    0  38.7M  1 loop /initrd/pup_z
loop3    7:3    0  20.7M  1 loop /initrd/pup_a
sda      8:0    0 931.5G  0 disk 
─sda1   8:1    0   5.3G  0 part 
─sda2   8:2    0 345.7G  0 part 
─sda3   8:3    0  20.7G  0 part 
─sda4   8:4    0     1K  0 part 
─sda5   8:5    0   512M  0 part 
─sda6   8:6    0    63G  0 part 
─sda7   8:7    0 496.3G  0 part 
sdb      8:16   1   1.9G  0 disk 
─sdb1   8:17   1   1.9G  0 part 
zram0  254:0    0  15.1G  0 disk [SWAP]

What should I do?

>>100169492
>>100170166
pipe-viewer

>>100168919
KDE is the most fully featured DE there is.
MATE is a fork of old GNOME for nostalgic nerds.
XFCE is a lightweight desktop.
Cinnamon is poor man's KDE but it does the job.
GNOME is the flagship Linux desktop and it fucking blows ass. WIthout extensions it's unusable to all but the biggest turbo autists and many distros like Ubuntu and Pop_OS ship it with extensions to address its design failures.

>>100168151
https://github.com/tmux/tmux

Ctrl + B then C for a new tab
Ctrl + B then number to switch to tab with that number
Ctrl + B then % to split horizontally, " for vertically
Ctrl + B then D to detatch from tmux session
tmux a in terminal to reattach
Personally I run

tmux a || tmux

so it tries to attach and if it fails it just opens fresh session

Aside from floating this will do what you want (have tabbed terminal) but will work in any terminal, in any WM/DE and even over ssh. tmux sessions also last through terminal/DE crash and user logging out and can be used in multiple terminals at once, including over ssh. You can enable mouse support in config which I recommend.

How the fuck do I nuke this retarded wayland.log file from ever appearing on my system again? Many months ago I stupidly enabled this log file to write to "/home/username/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log" in a config file but the problem is it writes infinitely like a tard and eventually takes up all my remaining /home space, even if I delete it, which forces me to restart. It's been so long in my command history I don't know where I set this stupid thing to log and I'm having trouble finding it. I'm sick of having to eventually restart over this dumb log file eating up all my space, someone please help.

>>100165444
Yeah you don't need a GUI for pipewire, I can play audio in TTY on my PC or in Termux on my phone for example. Install mpv and yt-dlp, then use this script and you can play anyYouTube audio:

#!/bin/bash
mpv --no-video "ytdl://ytsearch:$*"

Put it in some folder in your home dir and add that folder to your PATH to have it work as a command accessible from anywhere at any time.

>>100169983
Redpill me on him, why is /g/ so obsessed with him

>>100168702
DEs usually come with a lot of utilities and most of the time you have to uninstall one to install another, tho the configurations should be saved hopefully. I personally haven't gotten much into configuring DEs as I prefer WMs but if you want to DE hop I recommend something like Arch which comes with no DE by default since it'll be way easier to get support online for configuring them. On my phone at least I used Termux with termux-x11 and got xfce4 to run within an app on my phone very easily with a single command and it works flawlessly, but as I said not sure how complicated it gets when you want to switch from one larger DE to another

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im trying to make a local testing setup where i need to check for various network conditions, and frankly the tools on windows and mac are rather shit, and i also need to check mobile stuff, so that wont fly
what i can up with is a debian server on a small machine or laptop, configured so it would connect to my wifi, and split/control the connections/traffic for the other stuff
its been a hot 10 years since i last had to configure a debian server with firewall, routing and all that fancy stuff, and I1ve heard nowadays people just use tc or pfsense
What would be the best way to go about this, and what would be needed for it/how to do it?
main point would be to able to test various conditions when i only have access to wifi, and need it small as i would be on the move too along with home testing

>>100169492
>but is that not just an unseekable stream
Add this to your mpv.confg
ytdl-raw-options=format-sort="proto:m3u8,codec:h264"