I love my Linux, bros

>>101168354
yup, love my looniks

>>101168280
>>101168316
>>101168324
>>101168328
Thanks for the suggestions. My backup plan was basically to make a script that spams apt-installs. I take it ISOs are non-trivial then and no one here bothers with it then - not worth it?

>>101168415
>not worth it?
They're worth it for spinning up the OS unmodified on multitude of machines mostly because they include startup scripts for autodetecting the hardware, which is trivial if you just want to run the OS in a couple of devices.

For ex: I'm in the process of making an Archlinux ISO for running the COSMIC Desktop Environment. It won't make sense to install it to a full hard drive because I want to test it on multiple devices and I won't be storing any data to it. IDK if that makes sense

Redpill me on Universal Blue. The idea sounds good, kind of

>>101168476
idk but bazzinga is chilled a lot lately

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>>101168354
I hate my Linux. But can't change as all the other options assrapes their users 24/7.

>>101168476
it's just immutable nobara linux

>>101168489
That's what Kinoite is; UB/Aurora is yet another layer of stuff on that

i know archiso exists, but even if you create your custom ISO
dont you still need a way to install it to the disk

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>>101168341
Floorp can't play the mp4a-latm codec videos for some reason. Anyone having the same issue?
Librewolf works btw and yes I do have libdca, a52dec, gst-plugins etc. Its just floorp being weird and I failed to fix it for a while now and two threads.

>>101168461
That's cool anon. I know network cards often have proprietary drivers, so detecting those would be important. Do you mind if I ask what's involved in your approach? Are there human-readable scripts that you are just editing in the ISO? I suppose you have to package software in the ISO as well somehow

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>>101168544
>way to install it to the disk
Any Linux environment IS the installer.
The so called installers are just Linux systems that come packaged into an ISO9660* filesystem and they usually automatically fire up the desktop environment along with the installer GUI app.

*they don't NEED this but for the sake of compatibility they release their installers as "CD-ROMs"

>>101168598
>no software or drivers

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>>101168607

>>101168607
so how would you copy the contents of the iso to the disk?

>>101168617
Yes, you can figure out the hardware part by not getting random shit for your build.
>no software

>>101168581
>Do you mind if I ask what's involved in your approach?
Sure, so my approach is a little bit different than the rest.
>Building is done in a VM on my home server for automation purposes
>Brought up an Archlinux chroot using systemd-nspawn
>Followed ArchWikli's archiso page for making a base ISO
I'm currently here
>Create custom packages and customize accordingly
>Document steps
>Translate those steps into scripts
>Generate Jenkins jobs to automatically build ISO on code change

>>101168642
https://openbsd.app/

>>101168639
How do copy anything anywhere lol?
Usually they don't, they bootstrap packages using their respective package managers. But I assume that counts as "copy" in your books??
At least that's what all deb-based systems, rpm-based systems and Arch does. On Gentoo you got a literal tar archive you extract. And most other distros too offer this "root filesystem tarball" option (which is my favorite).

>>101168665
My bad it is not a systemd-nspawn chroot, instead it is an Archlinux docker container. Which serve the same purpose.

I don't want dbus on my desktop computer.

>>101168665
>>101168691
you rock, thanks anon - there appears to be something similar for debian too called 'live-build'

>>101168787
consider FreeDOS

>>101168862
True, I could just switch to Windows. No bloated, insecure dbus designed by retarded monkeys there. It almost sounds worth it.

>>101168883
Windows is like 80% retarded jeetware by weight and contains the RPC goop that was the direct inspiration for DBus.

How do I install a bluelight filter on Mint + XFCE? I'm starting to see why people say Linux isn't practical.

https://youtu.be/58mLZyShQjQ

this is easily the most depressing thing ive watched about linux ever...it's fucking over

>>101168682
i dont get it

>>101169187
woke shit destroying linux
like everything else

I've been using windows 11 enterprise on this gaming pc of mine but recently i've noticed it lagging when i'm doing something as simple as opening task manager or explorer. Been thinking about switching to linux mint, but there's a lot of games on my pc that probably won't work even with wine/proton. What should I do?

>>101157624
>>101157695
You guys were right. It was the USB. Got a new one and it worked perfectly fine. Mint installed without a hitch, and I'm currently basking in the comfiness of my first Linux installation in years. Probably gonna take me a few days to fully transition, but I am one happy camper. Thanks for your help!

>>101169250
based

>>101169250
Bad USBs are usually the culprit for this kind of shit. This is why I only use Sandisk or Samsung ones.

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Hello. My friend recently downloaded Linux mint and he's loving it very much. Although he told me that he updated his computer and his color is all fucked up. He took a screenshot of thr color red on a Google search, shows as color red. But his monitor is displaying Blue for the color red. So it'd fucking him up as he's a artist, any helps or tips? He showed me a phone Pic of the web result of the color red image showing as blue

For the guy that was looking for a CrystalDiskInfo replacement in the other thread, I found this
https://github.com/edisionnano/QDiskInfo

>>101169353
not that anon, but damn, this is looking pretty good. I'll compile it to test later

>>101169396
for anyone else on debian thinking about trying this, you will need to install qt6-base-dev to compile it

>>101169317
Check if snapshots are available and rollback till you find one that works: https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/timeshift.html
If they aren’t, I’d try to figure out what was upgraded and downgrade everything particularly if it’s related to graphics/drivers. If that doesn’t work just do a clean install and don’t forget to setup snapshots

>>101168341
finally installed Fedora yesterday on my shitty laptop
it feels soo good man, holy shit

fuck windows forever, never going back

>>101169558
Fedora is so good

>>101169230
bump

>>101169230
Switch anyway. Proton covers a huge majority of games. The last real blocker is kernel level anticheat.

>>101169230
play what runs on linux, ignore what doesn't

>>101169703
I don't play any multiplayer games anyways, I may just shrink my windows partition down and dual boot first to see how I fare first.

>>101169558
workstation or one of the spins

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now that the new gnome broke the dark gtk themes i like im considering switching to budgie. it's literally exactly how i configure my gnome using themes and extensions except... by default instead of requiring extension to PUT FILES ON YOUR DESKTOP LIKE YOU CAN ON EVERY OTHER DE

What the fuck, how has purism STILL not come out with a Librem Mini V3? 4c8t is insulting these days.

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>have 32gb RAM
>this should be 33554432 kB
>cat /proc/meminfo
>MemTotal: 32721600 kB
>832832 kB (813 mb) is missing
>lspci says 256mb is dedicated to the igpu
I don't see it in one of the other categories, so where is that other 557mb?

>>101168341
oh hey, it's my favorite free software logo

>>101169870
how does budgie compare to xfce? it always felt like it was a more polished version of it, but never bothered trying the thing for whatever reason

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If I have the newer kernel already, should I uninstall the old ones or does it not matter

>>101169187
The Gentoo mention was funny at least.

>cant take screenshots when playing steam games
do i need to do something special here?

>>101167091
How about they stop bitching and complaining about the issue and just fork ventoy and remove the binary blobs instead? Nothing is stopping them but instead they would rather just complain until someone else does it. I hate retards who LARP as security experts

>>101170819
Because they'd rather cause drama instead. It is actually very common for projects to bundle dependencies because it makes it easier for developers.

If you stop bundling those things then every developer has to build them on their machine and your build system has to have support for doing that and then you need to support the billions of different compilers distributions use and all of their different quirks.

The person reporting this "issue" even acknowledges that:
>Of course it's convenient, they are prebuild, it's fast and nobody has a problem with it.

>>101170850
>>101170819
They do make a good point about using GitHub CI though but that's not a security thing, that's just a "it's somewhat retarded to be checking binary blobs into a Git repo" thing (although it does happen, linux-firmware is a git repo containing nothing but binary blobs, that's its entire purpose)

>>101170819
>>101170850
Just seems to me like people who're still shellshocked by the xzutil fiasco being overly mousey about any FOSS thing made by a chinese person. Like someone truly could just fork Ventoy and remove the blobs that're getting them rowdy but they just want to complain instead.

so whats the "correct" way to install debian to get
a minimal system?

>>101170938
Do a netinstall, unless you want to install it manually (it's possible to use Debootstrap to do that, after manually partitioning and then you chroot into it to install Grub or Systemd-boot, etc, but it's a bit involved)

>>101168476
Your home folder will contain everything you need, this can be bad or good depending on your perspective.
It has dogshit ugly terminal defaults doe.

>>101169961
Their target audience is uninformed rich people with too much money

>>101170850
From what i saw it was only just 3 binaries that should build very quick: cryptsetup, dmsetup and geli
So it's not like they would take long to build in the first place, it just probably makes life easier for the dev testing shit not having to recompile the blobs every time but that's about it

>>101170888
99% chance that the people paranoid about the xz backdoor have no idea how it works in the first place

>>101171283
Not only that but there’s also a guide on how to do it in the DEV folder. This weekend I’ll try it and report back

>>101168787
You don't have to. Providing you're willing to make some sacrifices it's still very much possible to get away without it:
>Desktop notifications (Gone)
>Polkit (Gone)
>NetworkManager (Gone)
>Any sort of introspection or scripting of the desktop (Gone)
>Reacting to signals/events (Gone)
>Interoperating with other applications (Gone)
>DBus activated services (Gone)

Do any Switch emulators work better on Linux compared to Windows?

>>101171364
They'd work about the same because they use Vulkan/OpenGL. Both Ryujinx and Yuzu's successors would work just fine.

>void still stuck on ffmpeg4
>ffmpeg6 pull request opened more than a year ago still hasn't been merged
This is never going to get merged is it?

>>101171437
Do you really need the latest ffmpeg? I used to run ffmpeg from git sources on my Gentoo system but now I don't bother.

Ffmpeg has a tendency to break things and has to be updated very carefully (carefully re-building all deps as necessary). I'm not surprised they're taking their time.

if i want a partition to auto mount i have to add it to the fstab but what mount options are recommended to add?

>>101171484

UUID=… /path/to/mount/point ext4 defaults

>>101171517
>>101171484
If you have the Systemd virus and this is an external drive you may also want to add nofail
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fstab#External_devices

>>101171470
I have my own local build of moonlight-qt and it keeps segfaulting on the newer versions which makes me believe its something to do with ffmpeg being out of date
I dont know why they dont just split ffmpeg4 and 6 like arch does

>>101169976
Probably 384-512MB reserved for crashkernel, and the remainder either disabled (check dmesg), or reserved for specific devices, like DRAM-less NVMe drives.

>>101171571
>I dont know why they dont just split ffmpeg4 and 6 like arch does
For the same reason Void doesn't split other system libraries. It might work for Arch but most distributions only keep a single version of Fffmpeg.

what would be the best filesystem for a partition i want to acces from both linux and windows?

>>101171799
BTRFS if you can install the WinBTRFS driver on Windows, otherwise NTFS.

>>101171799
NTFS works fine.

>>101171325
>all that trash gone
Good. Problem is that some things don't work or crash if dbus is present. Wayland depends on dbus fundamentally.

>>101171945
>Wayland depends on dbus fundamentally.
Wait, really?

>>101171951
In practice you won't be able to run a wayland desktop without, because many dbus protocols are used to make up for wayland's lack of desktop-specific protocols.

if i wanted to use virtual machines, would 200gb be enough for root?
i know when you used the libvirt stuff virutal machines get stored on the root parititon

>>101172190
libvirt uses the concept of storage pools, you can have multiple or just one but it doesn't need to be on the same partition as root. Take a look here
https://www.xmodulo.com/change-default-location-libvirt-vm-images.html

>>101172220
interesting
do you recommend a separate /home?
i would like to have just a small root partition and all my files on another parttition

>>101172291
I don't personally use a separate /home partition though it is quite a common setup.

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I've been running Void Linux on my main PC for the past year now and I really like it and its package manager. It runs at like 758 mb of ram running DWM with no programs open and boots fast as shit.
I'm about to build a new PC though, with a fresh OS install. Should I consider Artix? I just noticed all the time when I was using Void, whenever I had an issue or I was installing something, there seemed to be a much simpler/faster solution or method for Arch distros.

>>101172329
>It runs at like 758 mb of ram running DWM with no programs open
is it running from a ramdisk or something?

>>101172360
It's just installed on an SSD.

>>101171951
>>101171945
It does not.
>>101172030
There are Wayland protocols which don't use DBus it's just up to the compositors to implement them.

In general the desktops which use DBus already did so heavily for X11 anyway so Wayland doesn't represent a departure here it's just more of the same.

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>>101172030
>many dbus protocols are used to make up for wayland's lack of desktop-specific protocols
I was thinking of moving to wayland because everyone is pushing it so hard. This made me reconsider, it likely won't be long before the distro forces it on me though. Ever day it seems something like gentoo is the only way out

>>101172291
nta but if you want another partition you could go with /var or /usr/local if you dont want system files in your /home

>>101172393
>It does not.
It does. I realized when I tried to run some Linux software in Windows and macOS. (I was forced to use these for certain things, thought why not use portable Linux GUI programs? A KDE program crashed when the dbus server was not running, it worked when I commented that code and rebuilt.)

>>101172393
>There are Wayland protocols which don't use DBus it's just up to the compositors to implement them.
That is true but anything that actually wants to work under major DEs needs to support the dbus protocol too.

>--setopt=install_weak_deps=False
Can this be used for updates too or only when installing a program with dnf?

>>101169187
Lunduke hasn't been worth watching for years since he went full schizo.

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>>101172604
>t.

Why does gentoo need to recompile the whole kernel when I only tweaked around with like 2 fucking modules

>>101172650
>he doesn't know

>>101172543
That's because KDE and GNOME both make heavy use of DBus. They already did so for X11 too.

These desktops are not Wayland though, they are but one implementation and this is a bug in the app. It might even be worth reporting that as a bug because KDE software in particular is expected to work without DBus. Many of their software runs on Windows and macOS too and there's no DBus there.

>>101172778
The modules are built as part of the kernel

>>101172789
I know he's the only one covering the transification of the Linux community.

>>101172851
Some nutjob thinks he's a woman is not Linux news. It's crazy and people should talk about it (like Lunduke) but it doesn't directly affect the kernel. The bigger issue is when they try to cancel developers they disagree with. That's happened in Debian in the past, I find it funny he concludes that Debian is just fine. I guess it was a quiet year for them this time around.

>>101173042
I said transification as a double misnomer. The organizations aligned with linux are making the most bizarre of decisions and he's one of the only journalists, if not the only one, covering it.

>>101173068
Fair. A lot of the things Lunduke brings up nowadays are like this though. They're social or political issues. I don't have a problem with him covering that but is he really surprised when other outlets don't?

Most of the technical stuff he brought up was covered by other outlets even though he pretends otherwise.

You have to respect the grift though.

>>101173042
What about when the nutjob who thinks he's a woman holds a position of power and bullies other people because they told another nutjob to fuck off instead of kneeling and kissing their feet while calling their desired pronouns?
Or when the nutjob who thinks hes a woman holds a position of power at debian and uses it to abuse others and when someone else calls them out on it they use their mental illness as a shield because the guy forgot to use the correct pronouns once and ignore all the accusations against them then gets the debian leader to send a hatemob against the person to find an excuse to kick them out. While debian then complains about being unable to find people who want to help with maintaining packages

>>101173104
every god fearing American should have a permissive open source license at home so they can resist the tyranny. A good guy with a fork beats a bad guy with a fork.

>https://blog.system76.com/post/cosmic-branding
>celebrate the much-anticipated release of the first COSMIC Alpha, which is estimated to be ready in late July
We're witnessing the end of GNOME.

>>101173161
And KDE. This will be the end all DE to end all DEs.

>>101173170
>And KDE
If they don't fix Plasma 6, they deserve it. KDE 4 was atrocious, Plasma 5 was good and they messed up AGAIN with Plasma 6.

>>101173161
>COSMIC fully ready late July
Exciting. A better GNOME then GNOME.
Also the logo looks like a little man wearing a VR headset.

>>101173170
KDE is going nowhere fast. I don't even think Cosmic has HDR support yet (that's a KDE exclusive for now).

I respect what they're doing though. I might check it out if it ever gets packaged for Gentoo and works fine with OpenRC (don't know if they make use of any Systemd features like GNOME also does, if so that might be a problem until someone patches it)

>>101173190
They didn't mess up that badly this time around. It's overstated how much of a problem Plasma 6 is. There are some minor bugs and it's in need of more polish still but most things work fine and it doesn't Krash on my machine.

>>101173193
Well someone's already uploaded the source code to build COSMIC already on the AUR on Arch so it'll probably happen with Gentoo as well.

It would be nice to have a Fedora COSMIC Spin. Is there any hope it can happen even though COSMIC is in alpha?

>>101173234
You would have to find a group of Fedora Project members that want it and get them to submit a proposal for the next version of Fedora.

It might be more sane to start with packaging a COPR repo first and then go from there.

>>101173249
>Fedora Project members that want it
they're all GNOME users, bet they'll never allow COSMIC on Fedora kek

what home folder would be appropiate to put my programs

>>101173161
I mean i'd like gnome to crash and burn as well but we both know that's never going to happen and they're still going to hold GTK hostage since it's easier to develop a GTK gui app than it is for QT

>>101173313
Music, Pictures and Videos aren't appropriate, so there's not much left.

>>101173313
binaries usually go in ~/.local/bin
if you really want to you can create a ~/.local/opt folder and dump everything there

>>101173313
.local/bin is the "correct" way of doing it but you can put your programs in whatever folder you want in your /home. Just that if you want to have the program be part of the PATH you gotta set the folder in your .bashrc.

>>101173313
I make a Software folder, where I put anything not installed by the system, and then a subfolder called MyScripts where I put my own shit

>>101173300
If they allow KDE and XFCE and MATE and LXQt, , even Budgie, etc, they'll allow Cosmic too.

It just needs interested people to make it happen.

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Daily reminder that Linux is for elitist faggots that want to spend their entire day fixing petty issues that shouldn't even exist.

>>101168354
>started dualbooting windows and linux a few months ago but barely ever used linux because I felt uncomfortable with it
>not that long ago I figured out that I can mount my windows drive in linux, giving me access to all my files, which made it much more pleasant to use
>decide to try exclusively using linux for 3 days to see how much I can tolerate it
>been using it exclusively for 3 weeks now with no desire to return to windows

>>101173423
Thanks frog-chan

>>101173423
Sounds like the gate was kept

>>101173408
GNOME devs hate COSMIC devs specifically.

>>101173535
They're gnome users not gnome devs. No one hates gnome devs more than gnome users.

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>>101173454
Typing one wrong command and having your system bricked is a good thing
pic rel you

>>101173423
I have never had any complex issues using Linux. You're just projecting.

>>101173567
Why would you type wrong commands?

>>101173567
Yes that describes every OS, good job anon.

>>101173423
Enjoy your spyware and malware because i wont need to. Hope your frog collection doesn't get accidently flagged as malicious by windows defender and automatically deleted without your consent

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>>101173634
windows is spyware
all of microsoft producs collect data, even winget, their "package manager"

>>101173654
Anon that was his point

>>101171799
Avoid using ntfs3 though (kernel module), some people report having corruption issues with it. ntfs-3g works like a charm though.

>>101173634
You can cry about spyware all you want but it just doesn't manifest negatively. What malware? Is the malware in the room with you right now?

Haven't used my laptop in a rong while. I got dualboot win10/linux. I want to wipe everything and do a clean install of just linux.
I'm just not sure if I can fuck anything up when it comes to removing dualboot. Do I need to remove the partitions first or something of that nature?

>>101173992
Frankly, I wish I could handle it. I've been trying to make my own bspwm config for days but holy aids it is fucking convoluted and aids aids aids. Just aids. It makes me feel retarded and I want to kill myself more then usual.

>>101173891
>ntfs-3g works like a charm though.
I've had the same experience. The only downside? is that it's using FUSE.

>>101173549
Which is exactly why they won't block whoever decides to bring it to Fedora. They couldn't care less. GNOME isn't going anywhere for them. All this talk of GNOME somehow being in trouble is realistically nonsense.

>>101169173
redshift

>>101173992
>i keep hearing about this HIV but i keep having bareback anal sex and nothing happens

>>101174742
??

best distro for watching trap porn?

>>101174901
mac OS

I want to bundle some AUR packages into a Live CD in an automated fashion. But, yay and most AUR helpers require the usage of a standard user to build packages (for obvious reasons) how can I either:
>build as root without any prompts, all automatic
or
>build as normal user with sudo privileges without any prompts

What distro would y'all recommend for a beginner linux user switching over from windows? I have an intel chip and an NVIDIA card. Thanks

>>101175057
ubuntu

>>101175057
Linux Mint

>>101172563
Try it yourself but taking a peek at the code it’s applied to any operation that calls the resolve() function in base.py so I would assume that it does

>>101174963
passwordless sudo/doas
you can save some trouble by just building the packages locally or something and just copying the tar.zst files to install with pacman -U instead of having to rebuild aur packages every single time

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>>101175272
>passwordless sudo/doas
gotchu anon thanks
>instead of having to rebuild aur packages every single time
I'm aware but I want the build to be 100% reproducible (my autism)

Okay, so, I did it only because I can but, unironically, what's the use case of VM'ing macos on linux? No GPU passthrough, just a qemu vm.

>>101175073
>>101175060
Can you give me a little more explanation about why these are good? thanks

>>101174963
>>101175272
I'm resorting to building only as normal user without installing and then adding the built packages to repository to further install into the Live CD

>>101175294
Probably Xcode and the ability to develop for macOS/iOS

>>101175313
NTAs but the explanation is fairly simple.
>Ready for desktop usage, almost no command line required
>Lots of documentation
>Huge user base
>You got a problem? Most likely another user already had the same one

>>101175439
Forgot another important one, they offer the option to effortlessly install NVIDIA drivers, contrary to other distros.
This is fairly important for beginners

>>101175294
developer shit
testing sites with safari
apple/icloud account for email and stuff
laughing at how shit and bloated slow mac os is to use

>>101175291
>>101175383
i don't know what your build process is like but you can set up makepkg to build all aur packages into the same directory and then point that directory as a repo for pacman and if the package has already been built it should choose the prebuilt package over having to build it from aur
i think you might be able to skip the pacman repo part because yay should be able to choose the already existing prebuilt package in its cache if it exists

>>101175294
This >>101175606
It's useful for QA purposes, specially if the testing application is a native one, there's no workaround it.

Now that your are at it, why don't slap in a cheap RX AMD card for passthrough?

>>101168341
Today I once more got reminded as to why Linux will forever be relegated to being a server OS.

After two years of using Debian on my machine I found out that all this time my DAC was being Limited to 48kHZ sampling rate, even though it supports upwards of 384k.

Since I am running Gnome on Wayland, which defaults to Pipewire, I had to copy the Pipewire and WirePlumber default settings from /usr/share to /etc/config and edit them to allow sample rates higher than 48000 and then having to reboot the system and cat /proc/asound/card2/stream0 to confirm it was working.

Meanwhile, on Windows, I just had to right click the output device, go to properties and change sample and bitrate (which sometimes wasnt even necessary since it often defaulted to the highest setting the device was capable of).

This, then, begs the question: why neither ALSA, Pipewire, Wireplumber and/or Gnome have a graphical way of changing these options? Even if there wasnt an easy way of changing it, why doesnt it, then, default to the highest setting the hardware is capable of and leave it for the application to decide wether or not to resample the audio and to what rate? and if it should not be up to the package default settings, why doesn't Debian change it to always default to the hardware's maximum setting or, at least, provide a warning, prompt during installation or whatever other way of changing this setting?

Even the Debian wiki lacks proper information about this.

i want to change ssd, what's the best way to do it?
i was thinking of installing arch on the new disk, copy all the data i have in the old disk and then swapping them, would that work?

>>101175763
clonezilla
otherwise fresh install and restore from backup

>>101175760
because there's basically no reason to use a rate besides 48kHz
you didn't have to reboot, you can restart pipewire without rebooting
the fact you didn't notice for 2 years should be telling that it didn't matter

>>101175760
This is a usecase very few people have. It's okay to require extra configuration for that.

The Debian wiki is also not really the right place to be looking for docs. You should learn to search better.

A DuckDuckGo search for "pipewire documentation sample rate" immediately brings up multiple different hits.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pipewire+documentation+sample+rate

>>101175760
You're blaming the OS for a user error

>>101175760
nobody cares
go enjoy your spyware and malware

>>101175760
>I had to copy the Pipewire and WirePlumber default settings from /usr/share to /etc/config and edit them to allow sample rates higher than 48000 and then having to reboot the system and cat /proc/asound/card2/stream0 to confirm it was working.
You had to...modify a config file to configure a program?????

>>101176015
Please understand, they're too used to the Windows Registry.
They want to download and execute a batch script nobody understands that leaves your computer with aids at the end of it. That's the ideal way to configure an operating system.

Can you use BTRFS on 20gb drives where zfs isnt an option?

>>101168341
First Linux crisis averted in Ubuntu.
I installed a second SSD and replaced my RAM.
PC worked fine yesterday but after I rebooted today everything went to hell.
At first I located the problem at the NVIDIA drivers not functioning correctly, but as soon as I tried to reinstall, I lost all internet and wouldn't even recognize the Ethernet device. Keyboard was malfunctioning occasionally as well.

After messing around with the BIOS (cause I got a warning after installing the SSD which prompted me to reset BIOS to default or manually configure and I chose default), I used the USB to chroot and update-upgrade everything and then everything started working again.
I'm happy it worked but I am also curious if anyone has any idea what happened?
Should I always update-upgrade when I install new hardware?

>>101176109
yes

>>101175813
>the fact you didn't notice for 2 years should be telling that it didn't matter
I know it doesn't matter. The only reason I decided to change was because I saw it in the log file for the music player.

My point wasn't about if it was useful or not, but that there should be an easily accessible way for changing the setting.

>>101175878
>It's okay to require extra configuration for that.
I agree, but it's also ok to make it somewhat accessible if the user so desire to change it.

>The Debian wiki is also not really the right place to be looking for docs. You should learn to search better.
yeah, I figured that out. The solution was, as you said, indeed in the Pipewire docs.

>>101175902
I'm not blaming it for the default being 48k, I am blaming it for there being no easy (and I mean easy as in "no need to look up documentation) way of changing the setting, like there are in Windows and OSX.

>>101175987
>nobody cares about a user issue in a linux system in a "friendly" thread about linux systems
>go enjoy your spyware and malware
if I did, I wouldn't be using Linux.

>>101176015
>You had to...modify a config file to configure a program?????
you seem to lack the reading comprehension necessary to understand what I meant. Editing the config was not the issue. The issue is there not being a GUI alternative like OSX and Windows have had for a long time, as changing the sampling rate of an audio device, to me, should be a simple and rather common setting to be easily exposed to the user. Either that or you default to the maximum that the device supports.

>>101176044
>They want to download and execute a batch script nobody understands that leaves your computer with aids at the end of it.
which is not what I did, or what a Windows user would have to do in a similar situation. I fail to see your point.

All this yapping and no one came up with a single reasonable excuse to why not implement such a setting in a more easily accessible manner.

>>101176425
>My point wasn't about if it was useful or not, but that there should be an easily accessible way for changing the setting.
that's ok, all i'm saying is that it's not something you'd expect to find in a gui since it's not the kind of setting someone who uses the gui for configuration should have a use for changing
that is, the only use for going over 48kHz is for things like manipulating ultrasonic sound, which is something extremely few people have a use for

>>101172378
how many services do you have running in the background? My void laptop uses like 200 MB in XFCE, with DWM it should be slightly less

>>101175760
>2 years
Funny how you couldn't tell the difference between 48 and 384, huh? It's almost as if you fell for a bunch of maymays.

>https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328987
>2013
>still not fixed

>>101176694
Turn off the screen locker or inhibit it with kde-inhibit. I have it off altogether because there is never a situation where I want my system to lock on its own. I'll do it manually if I want to.

>>101168341
lately it started to show the next error when using something with gtk
>symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib64/libgtk-4.so.1: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_pointer
searched for the aforementioned lib and added the path in profile
> export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/libgtk-4.so.1
> export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib64/libgtk-4.so.1
but the errors persists and bash says it can't found it before launching any gtk-4 application.
The glibc and gtk are the latest stable available in the manager.
AFAIK, these binaries were compiled with a lib newer than installed right?
One solution would be to compile gtk?
Thanks

>>101176425
>he issue is there not being a GUI alternative like OSX and Windows have had for a long time, as changing the sampling rate of an audio device
Besides audio engineers/technicians who the fuck is changing the sampling rate of their card so much they need a GUI for it? If it's a one time thing you absolutely do not need a GUI for it.

>>101176747
>you don't need that feature

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>>101169976
lsmem

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>>101170938
>>101170958
Not minimal enough if you want to handle the boot process yourself, or create a container or whatever. Use a tool called Debootstrap, it's kind of like Pacstrap when doing an Arch install.

>>101171484
nofail obviously

>>101176790
I don't. I lock it manually if I leave my PC. Having it auto-lock because you didn't move the mouse or press a key is annoying. I don't know why some people enjoy that.

>>101177243
Floppy disks were cool

>>101176425
>no one came up with a single reasonable excuse
If it's so valuable, why don't you add it anon?

>>101176425
>nobody cares about a user issue in a linux system in a "friendly" thread about linux systems
if you were trying to be friendly you wouldnt start your post with trash talking about linux staying as a server os

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is there something wrong with this script? i wrote it as an autostart script to create separate pulse sinks for my music player so that it doesn't get picked up by OBS (since OBS and many other applications can only pick up on the monolithic "Desktop Audio".)

i mainly ask if there's something wrong with it because it heavily distorts my audio when i start my PC. restarting my plasma session clears the existence of the sinks, and the script only works if i have audio playing, and if something wants to automatically output to either sink that gets created

How is Sway's development so slow? It's way simpler than a DE but it gets updated once a year.

>>101177720
It's a demo, don't expect it to get way better or more complete. Better to track Hyprland

when are we finally going to get a decent fs for ssds
i havent seen any news for ssdfs in a year

>>101177762
what's wrong with the fs we have?

>>101177756
>demo
lol what
>Hyprland
Not every distro packages it, so I don't want to get used to something that I might not have access to if I change distro.

>>101177762
bcachefs?

>>101177816
one man show with critical bugs staying unfixed for months, i dont have much faith in it becoming usable for daily driving any time soon if at all

>>101177762
>whatis ext4 w/discard

>>101177762
What do you use now on SSDs? Btrfs?

>>101177862
that's what i use currently but i've got loads of corrupt unrecoverable files for no discernible reason and it's actually slow as fuck so i'm going to drop it next time i do a reinstall
probably for ext4 like >>101177858 suggested

>>101177886
btrfs is STILL corrupting files?

>>101177913
apparently. i think it was having some issues around kernel 6.7

>>101177886
Corrupt unrecoverable files means your hardware is losing files.

>>101177862
Full data checksum overhead can be a lot depending on the CPU and how fast your SSD is. XFS+LVM is a good choice if that's an issue.

>>101177720
still waiting for the 2-3 fucking year old pull request for ime support that finally got merged to be added to stable instead of having to build sway from the AUR
>>101177756
you're mixing weston with sway
and sway devs would probably take offense to being compared to hyprland especially drew segfault

Is there a way to set environment variables on a Windows executable permanently? Or do I have to create a shortcut like I do currently?

Is it possible to invert the date and workspaces position on GNOME?

>>101178491
>you're mixing weston with sway
yup, you're right anon, my bad

What's a good way to check if URLs work from the command line? I've been using curl -I but I found an URL that is identified as 404 even though I can use mpv to load a stream from it.

http://cdns.jp-primehome.com:8000/zhongying/live/playlist.m3u8?cid=gd01

>>101177801
>I don't want to get used to something that I might not have access to if I change distro.
what the fuck are you talking about? you can compile it yourself if there's no package

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>>101177326
No they weren't. Too damn small and any proximity to something magnetic was a dice roll on whether your data was still intact. Iomega tried to improve on it with the Zip disks and before that with what became Imation's "SuperDisk" (which Apple quite liked), but you can't fix garbage, all of them were unreliable. And then USB came along and nuked everything.

>>101178899
Also Hyprland is making its way into distros now. Gentoo stable has it. Hyprland is just very new so it'll take a while to hit Debian-main.

>>101178002
>kernel 6.7
Not surprised, ntfs3 got regressions in 6.7 too.

>>101179152
I would be very surprised if Tranian allowed Hyprland on their repos after the Hyprland vs FreeDesktop debacle.

>>101179152
The archlinux packager guy eli schwartz tried to get hyprland removed from gentoo while exposing himself as an illiterate retard who has no idea what the "security vulnerabilities" of hyprland were
>>101179360
Debian will never package hyprland not because of troon drama but because of the bundled vendor wlroots library
Same reason why void doesn't have it either but void also hates the dev as well because they're all mentally ill troons

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>>101179430
>emerge --update --deep --newuse @world

>>101179430
https://github.com/hyprwm/Hyprland/pull/6608

>>101178899
>you can compile it yourself
I don't want to.

>>101179455
until the wlroots dependency is completely gone neither of those distros will package it

Will hyprland ever have proper monocle support without switching out of monocole mode once the window is closed?

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>>101179146
Hmm yeah uh huh but here's my counter point:
>hard to scratch because tape is concealed
>feel nice and tactile to use
>look cool
>you can stack them like a deck of cards

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>installed debian after being on windows for a while
>try using chromium
>works fine
>try starting it up again later
>get the stupid restore pages pop up that indicates it crashed before even though i closed it normally
>every time i start the fucking browser that pop up shows up
>look into it further
>the stable version is the same as the sid one
Is this a normal thing or did they fuck up? I ended up switching to RHEL (yeah, kinda overreacted, whatever) for now because of this shit.
bug report if anyone cares. pretty sad
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1073378

>>101179455
What a mess.

I regret trying out gentoo bros. I don't want to spend my whole day recompiling my kernel and updating but my OCD just jailed me into gentoo

>>101179524
Debian always packages the latest Chromium because the project is too complex for them to maintain a fixed version, and Chromium doesn't have an equivalent to Firefox ESR.

>>101179545
Source based distros are useless in 2024.

>>101179561
55MiB memory usage though

>>101179545
That's why you set your make parallelism to nproc÷2 so you can do other things while your system rebuilds. Only "make menuconfig" should require sustaned attention.

>>101179360
>Hyprland vs FreeDesktop debacle
What's that about? I'm out of the loop.

>>101179657
Hyprland's dev has been accused of being a "bigot" and no one wants anything to do with him now.

>>101179680
>bigot in quotations
No matter how hard you suck his dick you can't deny that he's a bigot

>>101179657
too long; don't give a shit version
>hyprland has a discord
>it's a bit spicy
>tranny from freedesktop org/redhat got wind of a tranny joke in said discord
>makes a blogpost calling out the developer
>developer doesn't grovel and instead writes a polite counter blogpost
>tranny gets him banned from freedesktop

>>101179657
hyprland told an attention seeking pronoun troon in their discord to fuck off by changing their username pronouns or something to dont/care
that's the whole drama
and then years later freedesktop troons started harassing him about it and he told them to fuck off so they banned him

>>101179488
it's gonna be more than a year before debian packages anything new for stable anyway.

>>101179773
More like FreeDicksnip amirite?

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wtf i love hyprland now

do I need to boot into a live usb to restore grub after installing/updating windows on another partition? or can I just boot into my linux install from the boot menu and restore grub from there? all tutorials I found online say you need to boot into a live usb but I don't understand why.

>>101177720
>Gets updated once a year
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/commits

>>101179827
>void
chimera doesn't have hyprland in its repos either

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>>101179827
void devs are more mentally ill than your average mentally ill dev
i wish i screenshotted the thread where vaxry and the same dev were throwing shit at eachother

>>101179876
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/releases

>>101179881
That os got the most jeet-like logo I've ever seen

>>101179881
Alpine too.

>>101179881
Maybe because Hyprland on Chimera doesn't make any sense.

>>101179907
wait, people dont use alpine only for docker containers????

>>101179881
that's because its run by a former void dev whos also a proud anarchist
their coc is also mentally ill
>https://chimera-linux.org/community/

>>101179881
>chimera
another tranny distro like void so that
shouldn't be surprising

>>101179913
?

>>101179907
Hyprland is packaged on alpine edge testing
https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=hyprland&branch=edge&repo=&arch=&maintainer=

>>101179925
I use alpine for servers

>>101179939
It's a distro to turn your PC into a gaming console for couch gaming. Why the fuck would you want to use a window manager for that?

>>101179960
understandable

>>101179925
only thing alpine is acceptable on is a vm.

>>101179833
if you can use the boot menu to boot into it then that will work fine.

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>>101179977
Well, I just found of Chimera and ChimeraOS are different things. Now I feel stupid.

>>101179977
I'm talking about Chimera Linux, not ChimeraOS.

>>101179925
Drew DeVault allegedly used it as a desktop.

>arch, gentoo, debian, lfs, mint
Give me a reason to why you need more

>>101180038
>gentoo, lfs
useless
>mint
use debian

>>101180051
>Oy Vey! Why would you want to have full control over your system? Let us do the job for you goy!
>use debian
ubuntu-based distros are easier for beginners

>>101178724
They are violating the HTTP standard. This is an issue on their server.

HEAD requests are supposed to return the same Status Code as if you made a GET request.

$ curl -s -o /dev/null -X GET --write-out '%{http_code}' "http://cdns.jp-primehome.com:8000/zhongying/live/playlist.m3u8?cid=gd01"
200
$ curl -s -o /dev/null -X HEAD --write-out '%{http_code}' "http://cdns.jp-primehome.com:8000/zhongying/live/playlist.m3u8?cid=gd01"
404

The only way to detect this would be to issue a real GET request and seeing if you get back a response greater than zero bytes. Having to download the entire file is a bit wasteful though.

>>101180007
Funny thing is chimera os came first

>>101179894
>Needing a new release
Compile it yourself.

On my Gentoo system this is as easy as:

smart-live-rebuild -f sway

Maybe if you suck Simon's cock nicely he can put out a new release for you.

>>101180005
For >>101180074 as well

>>101180038
debian has no packages, outdated packages, refuse to package certain packages and removes packages at whim whenever they want for dumb fuck reasons

>>101180038
there really are only 3 distros
mint if you are new
debian if you need a server
arch for your PC
everything else is irrelevant
lfs is cool to do once I guess, if you wanna learn more about linux
gentoo is just turbo-autists wanting to one-up archfags, but it doesn't really bring anything useful to the table for all the time wasted

>>101180121
It's really not that much time wasted, it's not like your computer just bricks itself whenever you compile stuff.

>>101180121
Gentoo supports more architectures than Arch and also has a stable release so it does have some utility still. Portage is also a way better package manager than Pacman, but I guess that can be ignored (it falls into the category of one-upping Arch).

>>101180121
You could also do Rocky on a server and Fedora on desktop as well if you prefer rhel/rpm based stuff

>>101180064
I see, I'll juse use GET then since there are other URLs like that too. Thanks Anon.

>>101180519
If it's for a shell script you can do something like this:

if ! res="$(curl -s -L --fail …)"
then
    echo "Blah blah failed" >&2
    exit 1
fi

echo "response: ${res}"

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>>101168341
why the fuck are my minimize/maximize/close buttons gone on firefox wayland?

WHAT the fuck...........a doodle shit is this? Same package but switching display servers messes with the toolbar

>>101180893
>minimize/maximize/close buttons
You don't need that.

>>101180916
ebussy can you help me for once

>>101180893
Tell firefox to use a proper titlebar and that won't happen.
browser.tabs.inTitlebar=0

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Every couple of years I'll be forced to upgrade my Kubuntu install since it stops receiving updates. And every time I go to upgrade it, something breaks or requires manual intervention.

It will never be the year of the Linux desktop because there are no distros out there that aren't straight fucking garbage. Its 2024, and I can't upgrade Ubuntu without having to fix a bunch of shit. In my case, it doesn't support my GPU drivers. Amazing, so I'll be kicked back to a fucking console screen without a DE until I figure out how to deal with that fucking shit show manually after the rest of the install completes.

Why are Linux DE devs so anti-user? Fuck these absolute clowns

>>101181070
>LTS distro
>not upgrading for years
>suddenly jump years of updates
>expecting everything to go smoothly
kek

>>101181070
use debian testing with KDE, hasn't failed me yet during an upgrade

>>101181070
Just go 5+ years, enable Ubuntu Pro, whatever. Or go the other way and take the rolling release pill.

>>101181065
nothing changed but thanks

>>101180592
Good idea, yeah it's for a Bash script.

>>101181192
Screenshot? It should cause Firefox to not draw its own window decorations. Remember you have to apply the setting.

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>>101181218
post restart

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>>101181218
still fucked

>>101181192
>right click the title bar
>choose customize
>check the box on the bottom left
wow its that hard?

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>>101181233
.... my dude you included the =0 in the setting name. Set the existing value from 2 or 1 to 0, don't add a new one. Delete that.

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>>101181251
this looks like shit

>>101181267
It also proves it's not Wayland's fault (entirely).

>>101180893
Wayland uses client side window decorations. That means every program decides what your title bar looks like and which buttons it has, not your DE.
Wayland is crap.

>>101181267
well get a ff theme that fits your system

>>101181300
ff does the same shit on xorg dumbass

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>>101181300
>>101181260
just makes it look worse but fuck wayland I guess. Where are my god damn buttons

>>101181318
Yes, X11 also has a method to hide the window decorations. But until recently that was considered bad behavior to do for normal windows. GTK (aka GNOME cancer) seems to change the default now if the developer of the program enables a certain feature.
I fucking hate it Fuck the Linux desktop. It's crap.

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ill concede and use plasma buttons. wierd how chromium still retains its titlebar

>>101181344
There is an option for system window decorations in chromium as well

>>101181399
but why not in firefox? this small fuckup is making me lose my mind but I normally use x11

>>101181300
No it doesn't retard. That's a mutter thing, and not related to the problem op is having.

i wanna do programming and want a distro with up to date packages
is fedora the best option?
i would use the kde spin because i dont like gnome

>>101181407
the fuck are you talking about?
>>101181319
clearly shows it using the systems window decoration

>>101181427
Arch, unironically
less bullshit overall

>Arch just updated Plasma
aw shit. here we go again.

>>101181427
Programming is not a viable criteria for choosing a distro. You can do that on every single one of them.
Choose between fast updating or rolling release.
Fast:
Fedora
Opensuse slowroll
Debian testing
Rolling:
Fedora rawhide
Opensuse tumbleweed
debian unstable
arch

>>101181414
It does. It's when a program uses this thing:
https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/class.HeaderBar.html
Maybe the original problem is different, don't care, fuck GTK, fuck Wayland.

>>101181142
>LTS distros break
>rolling release distros break
Nice OS.

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>>101181432
I dont want system window decorations I want the fucking way it ships on x11 with its own bar with normal ass buttons. I get some random aids on wayland

also btw KDE (if this is your fault) fix this gay shit too where is the preview in the mini-player?

>>101180121
>>101180247
Gentoo is actually much more stable than Arch these days and Portage gives you more paths back to normal if something does break.

>>101181766
>KDE
>fix

>>101181766
turn off the titlebar
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/breezelighttheme/

>>101181720
i am using arch for like 3 years now, never had a problem besides grub. Probably would never had any problem if i used anything else than grub.

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>>101181901
doesn't solve the problem but I guess I will and use this theme + kde titlebar. FUCK

for reference this is what it looks like immedietly after switching sessions. jesus christ

>>101181766
You could just use X11 until the bug is fixed instead of reeeeing.

>>101181994
no im gonna fuckin scream and shit my pants because this bug still exists last time I used plasma-wayland-session (6 months ago) and firefox titlebar being fucked is why I never went back.

I am pissed

>>101179827
Hyperland dev is anti-troon. Love that guy.

>>101179894
>sway
hahahahaha ahahahahhaah
what a joke
and the project is run by absolute basedboys

>>101182063
real solution: put this in your .bashrc or whatever:

export MOZ_GTK_TITLEBAR_DECORATION=system

logout and log back in.

is the cursor stuttering when the GPU usage is high on wayland thing ever gonna change or is it one of those things that are pretty much set in stone and the wayland team will never "fix"?. tons of little headaches have been solved over the years for me when i comes to wayland except for that one and i have the feeling that's just the way things are gonna be. i thought it was a wlroots or a compositor specific problem but after testing with gnome i guess that's just the way wayland works.

>>101182096
if this make it the kde-plasma titlebar again im gonna fucking kill you

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>>101182096
>>101182176
still broken fuck firefox on wayland im done bro

>>101182173
its fixed for kde as of 6.1

New thread:
>>101182219

>>101181501
one of the things i dont like about arch is that it always has the latest kernel
and the LTS kernel also updates all the time
a lot of times newer kernels introduce bugs

i used to just have a really basic neovim config... 4-5 plugins, telescope being the main one i used.

I decided to try lazyvim and it also has telescope but somehow seems slower. Is there a reason for this?

>>101183127
yes, you're getting old

>>101181766
>I dont want system window decorations
Why not?

Client side decorations were a mistake