focks on my iem

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Just another week of shipping hell, and my pos will finally arrive... probably.

>>101336970

what is the difference between 0.78 and 0.75mm? do almost all IEM's use 0.78 or the other?

Fiom11+ and meze 99 for 630$ worth it ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZOfMZsxtOQ
this tranny used a term aryan holy fuck holy shit is he #OurGuy (/pepe/ fan)?

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>>101338066
same anon here, i forgot to ask as well, does the connector design matter as well? not all of them are the same, for example the 2nd is different from the 3rd and 4th in pic rel, in which case some IEM's Like the Zero:2 have their pins inside the IEM which makes the pins from 3rd and 4th unusable, but some IEM's also have the pin connector sticking outside of the iem.
is it better to go for the 2nd one then for more universal compatibility or am i missing something?

I got my Zero:Red today, and I'm conflicted. These sound almost as good as my NiceHCK F1 Pro. Am I deaf?

>>101337304
Endgame

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This is Moondrop's CEO testing & pairing each individual DUSK IEM. Pic was shared by Crin on X.
What software/hardware is he using? What equipment is this?
PS: I asked this few threads ago. Got no answer... I'll keep trying until I do.

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HOLY MOTHER OF ENDGAME
LIBRA BALANCED GRAPHS JUST DROPPED

>>101338535
KZ, avoid.

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>>101338266
Thanks for this post. I was going to waste my money on the S08, now I realize it won't sound any better than what I already have.
>>101338535
Nice channel matching, Tyvan.

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>>101338535
yeah, they are good. very enjoyable bass.

>>101338513
Who cares, just use REW

>>101338153
give me attention

Should I just send the F1 Pro back? These Zero:Reds are also more comfortable than them.

>>101338667
Honestly this doesn’t look like a bad POS. yes it’s bass bloaty and quite v-shaped but done well I suppose. Since it’s so transparent maybe KZ will hesitate to stealth revise it but I’ve seen them do stupider before.

The real endgame will be when they can figure out how to remove that 5khz peak from EDA Balanced. Jeez what a good POS that would be…

>>101338822
how much you buy them for?
Also, you wanna know the sad part? I have zero:reds. Now I have gate and they’re pretty much just as good. This hobby is quickly becoming a waste of time with how amazing cheap IEMs actually are.
back in the day etymotic was the untouchable pinnacle of sound and now they’re basically crap in comparison.

>>101338867
89 bucks. I'm probably am going to send them back honestly. I might invest in a nicer cable for these instead.

>>101338535
I posted my measurements a while back. Here they are again, for two units.

>>101338822
>Zero:Reds are also more comfortable than them.
it's over

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>>101338937
Of course I forget to include pics. Also included insertion depths and distortion (104 +/- 5) pics .

>>101338251
yes, best to go for 2nd-style to be most universally compatible

>>101338513
dude always you fucking asking dumb shit, search on bilibili or fucking baidu, you piece of shit, every fucking thread you appear asking the same fucking question

>>101338513
It's time to accept that no one here knows the answer.

>>101338513
And also your fucking dumbass its ATS or the last version for AS software, fuck you and go search on google, nigger

just received my trn orca because I like orcas, and they sound incredibly muddy it's hilariously bad

>>101338251
The second one is the "universal" one albeit those pins are sometimes too long to fit entirely in certain iems, leaving part of it exposed.

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>>101338513
Why do you care? Just hit play and enjoy ze tunez.

>>101338251
2pin is the most popular. The difference between 0.75 and 0.78 is probably negligible, I doubt their tolerances are fine enough to actually be significantly different.
2pin cables will fit both QDC and TFZ and NX7 connections; these ones are essentially 2pin connections, where the female connectors are "lifted" out of the shell and the male connectors have a surrounding wall.
For actual 2pin connections, you have flush and recessed. In your pic, the 2pin is for recessed, as indicated by the additional section right after the 2 pins. For flush, you'll find either no extra section, or a very thin one.
In all cases, recessed 2pin will fit, and is basically a universal connection.

>>101338867
>I have zero:reds. Now I have gate and they’re pretty much just as good. This hobby is quickly becoming a waste of time with how amazing cheap IEMs actually are.
How disappointed will I be when I receive my nova? I've been using gato for 2 weeks and it's my favorite pos to use without eq.

>>101339393
TRooN'd!
try switches 001 position?

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>>101339393
>just received my trn orca because I like orcas
...

>>101339481
depends entirely on your preferences and HRTF.
Gate is already absurdly clean in the bass department IMHO, nova is cleaner but at the cost of midbass and lower mid “impact”, “note weight”, etc.
As for the treble if you naturally have an ear peak at around 10khz, the nova may sound more sibilant there than gate although generally speaking it’s a safe tune. If your hearing is amazing you might actually get that 13-14khzish peak from gate that the nova doesn’t have, but typically human hearing loss around that region means that peak isn’t as rough as it looks.

Will nova sound 5x better for 5x the cost? not a snowy chance in hell.
Will it sound good enough to justify the extra $130 leap? only you can be the judge of that.

>>101339526
>coony
>no loli on the shell

disappointed.

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>>101338747
I do, I want to know what this is because REW is often shit.
>>101339200
>It's time to accept that no one here knows the answer.
someone will know! plenty of knowledgeable people stop by here.
>>101339300
>ATS or the last version for AS software
What is that? I can't find it on search engines. Post link or pic pls!
>>101339433
>Why do you care?
I needs to know!

Am I realistically going to notice any sound quality difference between KBEar Storm and TANGZU Wan'er S.G?

I got the KBEar off of some youtuber advice (dankpods) and they haven't disappointed, I'm just wondering what I'm missing out on. And the green ones are also very pretty.

>>101339871
Wankers are obsoleted by gate

>>101339393
It's surprisingly 40ohm, have you tried it with dac?

>>101339887
no idea what that means or if it's an answer to my question

>>101339750
just search ATS software bro, how are you this retarded
and no, it's most likely a custom piece of software, and it's completely useless for people like you. just use REW, it's not shit.

>>101340007
>An applicant tracking system (ATS) is a software application that enables the electronic handling of the entire recruitment and hiring processes
Fuck off.

>>101339949
>>101339484
oh yeah, they are really not bad with dac (moondrop dawn) + 001pos thank you

>>101339871
They're both V-shaped sets, but Wan'er has a much milder take than Storm. You may just notice that the Wan'er sounds more laid back.

>>101340033
just ask your caretaker at this point bro

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>>101340007
that's not it.

>>101338513
This guy is the dumbest blackest gorilla nigger retard in all these threads, I usually don't respond but I will in this case to tell you that you're a retarded gorilla nigger and you should kill yourself immediately.

>REW is shit
>searching for outdated FR tolerance testing software
retard just extended the autism spectrum two folds, gratz

>>101340208
REW can't even do two earbuds at the same time.

>>101340238
Pro features retard, and in what scenario do you need simultaneous measurements for earbuds?

>>101340274
>Pro features
I haven't seen a single IEM or headphone manufacturer that uses REW for production.
> in what scenario do you need simultaneous measurements for earbuds
comparison, pairing, testing... it speeds things up immensely.

and the biggest fault of REW is that HW is sound card dependent and you can't even properly calibrate it.

>>101340309
>I haven't seen a single IEM or headphone manufacturer that uses REW for production.
If you're in production, then you'll have to consult with a company that can create such software for your specific needs. You won't find production line testing software here.
>comparison, pairing, testing... it speeds things up immensely.
If you're in production then yes, but apart from that there is no benefit. It takes 10 seconds to position the IEMs, then 5 seconds to actually measure them.
>HW
What's that?

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4U COMES WITH ASANO STICKERS?!?!? WTF WHY HAS ONLY THIS ONE RETARD MENTIONED IT?!?!

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>>101340423
Thank you my Queen...

I'm looking for a music player like an iPod shuffle 4th gen but with at least 128GB storage and a good DAC chip. Does this exist in 2020+4?

>>101340373
>If you're in production, then you'll have to consult with a company that can create such software for your specific needs. You won't find production line testing software here.
All these companies use the same thing. I swear I saw a pic of this software before in one of the tour videos of some company but it's been a while and I can't remember anymore.
HW is hardware.

>>101339871
>dankpods
entertaining but useless

wan’er is good. KBear has been outclassed except for the kb01 which is pretty good but doesn’t compete in the price range.
>>101339887
He’s saying the wan’er SG has been outclassed by the truthear gate.
As someone who owns both but haven’t listened to the wan’er for awhile? I’m inclined to agree

>>101340577
If you referring to chinese companies, then yes, they all share the same factories too. Not at all rare to see.
>HW is hardware
Then get a competent DAC with inputs. The Apple dongle is the go-to choice. Very low output impedance, linear response, and cheap/everywhere. You'll need a splitter, but it's excellent. REW also has calibration file support if you need to calibrate your sound card (assuming you have the data) or your measurement system.

>>101340687
how slim are the gate? wankers are actually decently chunky especially with their nozzles aiming straight instead of at an angle.

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>>101340839
get libra for comfort, these are almost too small for my ears and I need a shallow large tip for them.

>>101340861
no thanks tyvan, already got one being shipped

>>101340861
only for gay transgender mice

>>101340839
Gate is pretty small. my only issue with them is that they’re much shallower than my reds
>>101340861
looks pretty similar to wan’er desu. Tangzu basically ripped off their shells anyways

>>101338535
HOLY SHIT! ANOTHER DEFECTIVE KZ GARBAGE STEALTH REVISED NANOSECOND AFTER RELEASE!
>>101338667
>>101340861
Kys.

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>>101340839
They're in-between slim and chonky. The nozzle is stubby like the Zero 2s but the shape allows some kind of seal.

>>101340821
>If you referring to chinese companies, then yes, they all share the same factories too. Not at all rare to see.
No. I saw it in a video from an American company.

I can't wait to have a wife and kids so I can still be stuck in this shithole wasting my life shilling a chink brand for free.

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>>101340861
>>libra for comfort
>KZ
>QDC
>fake graphs
>looks like shit
>1DD

>>101341357
>1DD
woah slow down there buddy

>>101341357
>>libra for comfort
these are smaller than all of the single dds they've released. the nozzle is small too.
>KZ
yawn
>QDC
qdc lasts longer because the stress isnt on the connectors, but on the protuding plastic. standard 2 pins always break from the connectors.
>fake graphs
sounds like cope.
>looks like shit
it's $10
>1DD
1DD because it's the best. dont forget, it uses an internal welded coil structure. you cant find that on any other budget set. they just released another (edc pro) but it uses a composite diaphragm. libra uses PET plastic, which is surprising given the sound quality this pos makes.

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>>101341357
yup, maybe this is for you instead. $12.

>>101341661
>disgusting qdc and tfz hybrid
SOMEONE STOP THESE RETARDS WTF ARE THEY DOING

>>101341562
shut up gaylousetranny

>>101341661
preobsoleted by libra

>>101339441
thank you very much anon.

Will it damage the IEM if I shove a 0.78mm pins into a 0.75mm iem?

>>101342065
Really depends. I've had 0.75mm feel like a tight fit for 0.78mm connectors, and vice versa. As long as it doesn't require excessive force, it should be fine.

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Isn't it literally the same thing?

>>101342176
i thought it would be, i have both and libra has significantly better bass performance and edx lite is a bit brighter. i prefer libra over edx lite. but edx lite is still a solid iem, i preferred it over Cascara when i compared them lol. headfags were not happy to hear my preference.

>>101342176
What other anon said, EDX Lite is tilted brighter than the Libra. Fit is also different.

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>>101341562
>qdc lasts longer because the stress isnt on the connectors
retard

>>101342420
How do you people even manage that shit.
I recently tried to remove the cable from some dirt cheap EDX because it was stuck for some reason and even with a pair of plyers it would not come off or break.

>>101342451
plastic is brittle. it crumbles. there's a reason why only cheapshit companies use QDC.
when you see a QDC connector, you can rest assured that the IEM is gonna be a pos.

>>101342451
With time plastic will grow weak and crumble by itself.
Best connector is recessed which puts the pressure on the much more sturdy shell, especially if made of metal.

>>101342451
Gorilla nigger hands

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chang dented my box but pos finally arrived, the shell is even more beautiful in-person

>>101342722
>febos
wtf is that

>>101342722
yeah that's a pretty based looking earphone
enjoy it.

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>>101337852
What do I do now frens?

>>101342762
either call your postal company with your tracking number or wait for it to be sent back to sender and request a refund

>>101342762
turdearzo...

>>101342762
either over, or you get your novas for free
i've had a few free packages that got "stuck", but it was just that particular postal company that was slow and didn't update anything. came 3 months after my purchase, and by that time i got a refund from aliexpress

>>101342963
So you are telling him to wait for another 3 months? LMFOA

>>101342991
brother's already been waiting for 2 months, he can tough out another 3 lol

>>101342991
Not that I got any other option. Also there's a chance of getting an expensiveish pos for free.
Funny thing, they were only about five bucks more expensive on amazon when I bought them. Lesson learned.

>>101342420
yeah ok retard, my shit has never broke because i was never a gorilla nigger with them like you.

>>101342741
its short-form for "'Feel the Beauty of Sound"

>>101343341
that's not mine. I'm not retarded enough to buy this garbage.
these cheap plastics crumble away and that nipple is weak af.
enjoy till it breaks.

>>101343555
ive had my shit for longer than 7 months and ive never had that happen to me. not even my cable looks like that. I speak from experience, not from my asshole.

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>arguing over $10 condom plastic pos when endgame dropped
c ya nerds gonna hit play and enjoy standing wave-free music

>>101343959
it’s gonna be generic H*rm*n

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Why is it so perfect, /g/?

>>101343981
because its not you tool

>>101343959
>no tesla valve vent
trash bass response

>>101343959
wtf is that faceplate, even the twilight looks better

realistically what does a wide bore tip do?
also
moondropped Spring Tips
Sexu Tang Sancai
TRI Clarion

w/c one of these is the best wide bore meme tip

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>>101344101
even zs12 looks better lmfao

>>101343908
>7 months
and not a day more.

>>101344212
>what da loos hole penis tip do
relaxes the lower mids and subass a bit, and adds treble sparkle. I personally have the coomdrop spring condoms and they do exactly that without making pos sound overly harsh. ymmv with other condoms tho

>>101344212
>realistically what does a wide bore tip do?
preserves the high end, smooths out bass.
>w/c one of these is the best wide bore meme tip
whichever is the cheapest.
I would stay away from Sancai wide bore because it doesn't fit all IEMs. It's only good for TWS from my testing.
I would go for Spring Tips or TRI Clarion or even Spinfit W1. Spinfit W1 is really nice too.

>>101344212
try out epz' newest tip
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKriKeo
better deal than those fail tips

>>101344212
more airiness and treble, out of the 3 i like sancai the most, moondrop is fine but doesnt have the same openness and i regard TRI as a worse moondrop

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Got the cheap crinkles. Not too bad for $25. Makes the chus kind of irrelevant. Surprised you can do detachable cables at this price.

>>101344507
hey grandpa, how are you?

>>101344507
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>wankers arrived
>quite like how they sound
>a bit too sensitive
>the angular protrusion near the plug pushes into my ear and makes them uncomfortable
it's not gross to give someone else the iems you tried for a few hours, is it? if i clean the tips? once i tried washing an iem itself with isopropyl but the glue holding on the grate dissolved

>>101344538
washing the tips with soapy water is the way to go
passing alcohol free wipes on the iems themselves are much better

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>/iemg/ witnessed an anon circumcising his poor pos before their very own eyes
demonic

>>101344507
Should've gone with gato instead. Everything is detachable cable now btw.

>>101344507
even $10 kz buds have detachable cables
they're comfortable too, albeit not that great sounding

>>101345340
They’re all deaf so it makes sense that their IEMs are all vaguely treble boosted bass compensated trash

>>101342420
Have you tried not being a careless gorilla nigger?

Wondering how much of a difference i will feel upgrading from my Zero Red's to the Xenns Top

>>101346184
pretty different. top will have more upper frequency extension, details, and sparkle

angelears wants to cash in on Delci fotm train. "collab" will have tuning nozzles and different silver cable(?)
binary dynaquattro dropping. graphs better than 7hz five disaster

amazon prime day coming up, but browsing linsoul sales right now notable discount is TKZK Ouranos. love that lil nigga. 50% off is a no brainer

>>101346497
oh sweet, you even can add a free pink copper zonie cable

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To the anon that was asking before about the Kiwi Ears Melody, I've been daily driving mine for a while. I always enjoyed the way they sounded (it's a nice change of pace when everything else is trying Harman), but recently swapped to Dunu S&S tips, and wound up having to EQ a bit of the harshness in the treble. Overall don't regret getting them, I use them pretty frequently.

>>101346247
When i use my Red's on my Iphone it sounds so muffled on the highs, like there's a blanket on top of it and also sounds very ''digital'', like a old radio, if you know what i'm meaning.
When i use on my old Android device with Wavelet or on my Dac with eq, the Red turns into a totally different iem, the bass sounds much tighter e less boomy, much more controlled, and the blanket on the highs disappear, sounds much cleaner and open, it's a staggering difference.
I hope the Xenns will sound like this without me having to Eq them, because carrying 2 phones, one only to listen to music because it has Wavelet is really annoying

>>101346630
what is a high quality dac?

>>101346665
I think any Dac with enough power to attend you needs and a sinad above 100 is a good dac, i use a Topping DX3 Pro+, it1s overkill for iems, but i'm looking forward to buy a planar in the future.
I'm not saying that the Dac is the one making the difference on my Red, it's my Eq profile

>stock cable doesn't fit through phone case
>replace with shitty kz cable
>2 pin connections are kinda loose
is this a problem? is this because i mixed 0.78 and 0.75mm pins?

>>101339441
recessed or qdc everything else is shit

>>101346831
happens eventually to all poorly designed connections

is there a similar iem like moondrop chu in terms of comfort? zero:red is just too big for me. my chu already died after 3 months of normal use

>>101347113
Moondrop Chu 2, Tanchjim ЧU (Chu)

>>101347113
tin t1s, kefine delci, letshuoer soloist
dont get moondorp'd again

So, I'm thinking about getting my brother a pair. Should I get him Gatos?

>>101347916
Yes. I gave my brother Hola's and i still see him using it. Gato is the same thing almost

>>101347113
I asked the same thing a few weeks ago, got recommended the T1S, can confirm its good fit. I'll be using them as my new dailies for the foreseeable future.

>>101347916
I got them, they sound good, but I have a bulky tablet case that they foul against slightly. That's the only thing I'd watch out for.

Best pmp/"mp3 player" for 80 bucks or less?

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>>101347916
You could wait for wanker SE graphs to drop but in general I have gato and I love mine. it could be very HRTF dependent but they smash my hd650 5 ways to Sunday. I think they’ll impress any normie as long as they get a good seal

>>101348731
Shanling M0s or Pro

>>101349289
>they smash my hd650 5 ways to Sunday
with or without eq

>>101349289
I have the same headphones and my Zero:Reds just destroy them. But yeah I think I'll wait for the Wankers and then get my brother a pair of real IEMs. Right now for earbuds he just buys a cheap pair of Walmart ones and replaces them when they break.

>>101349289
your first mistake was owning the 650

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>>101348731
Shmci C5S with a good bud,Nice Hickory YDX.

Usually i try to find the harman target and then try to go right in the middle difference between the default sound and harman eq. 100% harman just sounds worse than no eq at all to me. anyone else do this?

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>>101349460
I don’t EQ my POS
>>101349469
I own zero:reds too and gate is basically on par, just a slightly different flavor. Reds are neutral, almost “dull”. Gate is more energetic and lively like listener said. Bold move by truthear but it’s done damn well.
>>101349501
I’m an oldfag. Yes back from eons ago where all in ear POS were actually tuned far worse than “the big three”(hd600/650, dt880, k702)…even kilobuck stuff. Every iem in existence apart from Etys were hot garbage. No it’s not an exaggeration

>>101349692
>I don’t EQ my POS
hd650 without eq is dogshit

>>101349545
Determine what you don't like about it and then make your own target. If your EQ looks like any established target you ain't listening. Usual problem areas are 5kHz, 200Hz, below 100Hz, above 10kHz. Don't forget to EQ treble by ear before doing any other EQ, one less source of sibilance to worry about.

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>>101349885
These are the problem areas with Harman imho. I think everyone can agree. other than that Harman is fine. the Chadbeucmas target is inherently a fixed Harman ie target. yes anything above 10khz if not 6khz should be EQ’d by ear unless you’re deaf in which case just to headfi and circlejerk about DAC/amps

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Looking for comfortable iems to wear at the gym in the cheap range. The waners feel weird wonder if it's the cable

I kinda want a nicer cable for my Zero:Reds. Anyone have a decent recommendation?

>>101350201
I’ve never tried the tripowin zonie but I hear they’re excellent. I have the tripowin grace which are regarded as worse and they’re just freaking dandy.

>>101349289
>>101349501
>>101349860
Senns hd600 series are all shit, gatekeepers will say it's pinnacle of sound, you just need a tube amp + eq the bass to distortion levels to make it sound "good"

>>101350136
the cable is complete garbage no doubt.
it might be the cable or the tips or just the general shape couldn’t tell you.
Stuck a tripowin grace on mine though and that seemed to help around the ear

>>101350420
you need to get cancer btw

>>101350420
tube/amp gags are a bunch of dickheads no doubt. I kinda realized that when my friend’s iphone 5 powered the hd650 just fine more or less.
here’s the depressing secret about headPOS though…the hd6xx series *is* good. It’s just good by headPOS standards which is in the dregs. cup resonances, head shapes, pad wear, background noise, etc. all but ensure that you’ll never reach a level of fidelity that $20 iemPOS can achieve effortlessly

>>101350487
Seethe hd600cell, beyer just made your beloved piece of plastic obsolete

>>101350505
>but muuh output power!!!
99% of headpos can be driven by a simple apple dongle.
miss the times where phones had headphones jack

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>>101350505
>>101350622
Tube amps do increase bass on them. But it's got nothing to do with tubes, it's from the output impedance.

>>101350764
Yeah but audiophiles will hear the difference in sound caused by different cables and different dacs/amps even if they are made to be fully transparent

>but muh hd600 scales better with tube amps!!!!

>>101350959
>Yeah but audiophiles will hear the difference in sound caused by different cables
lol.. lmao even.

>>101343981

it is not perfect, there is no mic port

Ordered a Zonie for my Zero:Reds and Gatos for my brother.

>>101344892
They will never sit right again.
BTW, notice how the cable has the exact same GREEN CORROSION as in this pic: >>101342420
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
fuck the QDC.
>>101346083
post hand!

>>101350959
dacs do make a difference
amps/tubes make a difference
cables make a difference

post iems, now.

>>101352401
Post HTL level.

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How do I request a refund on ali? Do I have to wait the 45 days ali suggests or for the pos to be returned to the sender? I have no way of contacting the shipping company.
How retarded is to order another pos before I get my refund?

>>101352608
>how long till they refunderinooo
normally web vendors are supposed to process the payment within a couple of hours, tho this may be different in every region
>how retarded is the decesion to buy another one?
richfag? then no
poorcel? definitely

>>101352608
I would wait for things to fully settle down. The tracking status should update. Once package has been returned, start the dispute process for refund.

>>101352608
Once I had pos that returned to the seller, it was still in my orders and wouldn't let me open a dispute because of the protection period thing. I asked the support bot and it told me to press order recieved and then open dispute -> problem during shipping. I got an automatic refund after that. Try asking /csg/ as well because it's a slightly different situation.

>>101350764
>>101350959
>>101351056
>>101352401
>>101352539
hd600 has enough bass, it lacks sub bass
just eq you fucking troglodytes

>>101352539
go get some pussy faggot

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>Go get some pussy faggot

>>101352918
Go get some finasteride lol.

>>101352401
Post daughter

Why is not owning an Etymotic model a sin? I want one for the promised ultimate isolation, but I also don't want to consume without purpose, which would be another sin!

Getting your eardrum ruptured is also a sin tho

no iems, no experience, just mentak retardation.

>>101353049
Notice the asterisk; this particular offense is dependent on one's circumstances.
If you want isolation for no reason, then you are consuming without purpose. If you need isolation for traveling, loud neighbors, or any tasks/situations that require said isolation, then there is a purpose behind the consumption.

>>101353167
It would mainly be for public transport. But I was curious why they are on the list, because I like the list.

>>101353223
On the list because they avoid many of the design flaws in IEMs. They also have some of the best isolation, which I index very high since most IEMs are used in loud environments where isolation becomes important.
If there's one IEM that should at the very least be tried by everyone, it would be Etymotics.

The isolation comes at the cost of insane microphonics.

>>101353462
It is a sacrifice I'm willing to bear.
There are also ways to reduce them, but I would say that it's the second most important reason why you shouldn't own one.

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New Harman target has arrived(galaxy buds 3 pro).

>>101353508
>strategic 6.8k dip
Are they reading iemg?

>>101352401
Want to see my collection of KZ’s?

>>101352899
>HD600
>Bass
>Subbass

No but you just need to Eq it!!!!!!!!!!!

>>101353508
Looking forward to these

>>101353508
Might upgrade my original galaxy buds. Still have no faith in twshitters but at least it looks more comfortable.

>>101353436
I could get the ER2SE for 100 yurop bucks, should I cop or wait for a discount?

>>101353582
hd600 has enough bass you can see it on the graph

>>101353508
enjoy your mud

>>101353691
I would wait for a discount, but only you can know.

>>101353539
>>strategic 6.8k dip
can you explain to me why that matters

>>101353793
Yea, since I don't need them urgently I can afford to wait. Wrote a little program that checks the price for me, now I just need patience.

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>>101353724
Maybe your unit is special lol

>>101353822
Ear canal resonance. 711 is too short to have it at a realistic frequency and GRAS dampens it for graph readability. But it's never truly gone, only EQ can fix it.

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>>101353751
Found the culprit.

>>101353916
ty anon!

>>101353987
Don't just go EQing 6.8k, the frequency is individual for every ear, IEM and tip combination. use a tone generator to find it.

>>101354007
Got it!!! Just to check if I understood you correctly, since the resonance is inherit due to our ears, they're unavoidable. So the trick is to reduce that region a big.
I'm really new to EQ. Once I find this resonant frequency, do you have any advice on what kind of a filter I should use, what he Q value shout it be and by how much should I reduce it by?
ty so much!

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>>101342722 (me)
Short impressions on the Mega5Est compared to the 2 pos I’ve been using recently: Supermix 4 and Cincotres.

tl;dr: Mega5Est does have the most natural timbre, but it is VERY library-dependent.

>Supermix 4
Out of the three, the SM4 has the weakest bass with poor note-weight. Thin presentation with forward female vocals makes it a one-trick pony for jpop/kpop. Decent separation and resolution. I would only use this for weebshit.

>Cincotres
Good bass, slams like the M5E but slower decay. May bleed into the midrange. Peaky treble gives it resolution and micro-details, but also risks being sibilant. Cincotres is like a more energetic SM4. Decent for all genres but needs EQ or tip-rolling to tame the harshness.

>Mega5Est
I really like the timbre on this. Sounds natural especially for string and wind instruments in an orchestral setting. But female vocals are slightly recessed/veiled and can lack clarity as compared to the SM4. I find M5E’s timbre to be a noticeable upgrade when listening to classical but negligible when it comes to jpop/kpop/edm/metal. Don’t buy into the hype unless you have the specific library for this.

>Conclusion
Diminishing returns is real and any improvement to sound quality is completely dependent on your library. Depending on the track/genre, all 3 IEMs may as well be side-grades of each other.

>>101354132
Peak filter, Q=5, magnitude variable.

>>101354147
ty!!!

>>101354143
Classical is one of the least demanding genres so if memest is only good for that then it's concerning.

>>101354143
based thx for impressions. btw what cable on cincotres?

>>101354205
Ok contrarian

>>101353508
>ai assisted adaptive eq
pos

>>101354612
what if it works though

>>101337292
>haven't been in these threads since last december
>same shitty iems still being recommended
idk if it's because the market stagnated, but holy shit this is sad.

>>101354835
Isn't that a good thing? Or are you the kind of person who buys a new smartphone and cpu and gpu every few months?

>>101354890
it's not good when the iems posted are hot garbage. from waner's shit quality and over the top bass to ea500lm's overly bright nastiness that even chu 2 fixes for fraction of the cost, there's not a single good iem from that list that should still be there.

>>101354835
name 3 (three) good iems

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>>101355060
ie600

>>101354206
Kinera QoA Rum

>flush 2 pin connector
dropped

>>101355060
in budget tier? unironically none, unless i'm forgetting something. that's the whole point, the fact that those shit in op is still good is just sad. might as well just put "they're all about the same just eq".
as for good iems, truthear nova, kinera quintet, and blessing 2 dusk.

>>101355128
>>101355140
>>101355187
Bruh

>>101355187
>"they're all about the same just eq".
this is true

>>101355239
You can still delete this.

So lets say a while from now I want to upgrade from my Zero:Reds. Is the Nova a good next step? I'm more or less just curious.

>>101355311
You learn to EQ.

>>101355240
This is only technically true in sterile lab conditions, but in real life it is not.
You will not be able to EQ properly unless you literally connect one pos to one cable termination and the other one to the other, do the sweeps and EQ by ear to make one match the other. 711 is way off and 5128 is mediocre at best and a LOT of corrections need to be done. Even if you decide to adhere to some target it is kinda shit unless there is a reference pos tuned exactly to match it, just run a sine sweep and you will hear something what does not correspond to what you see on the graphs and if you EQ by ear then there is no way to validate your preset as you do not have a proper audible reference.

>find the IEM that is the most comfortable for you
>EQ it to taste
There. You solved IEMs.

>>101355322
is that you in the photo

>>101355364
You just need to achieve a sound signature you subjectively enjoy without any big peaks or valleys. This isn't that hard to do with the aid of reference graphs and sine sweeping.
There's still considerable debate as to what target curve is best so it's not like you're ever going to be able to achieve a "consensus" sound signature. Just find the sound you like and EQ to that, making sure you remove big fucking peaks and valleys with sine sweeping.
Not hard.

>>101355364
EQ by ear, find your favorite sound signature, measure it on your 711 clone, now what comes out of that measurement is exactly what you like even if the graph is off. Doesn't matter because the "off graph" can be your base.

>>101355418
>You just need to achieve a sound signature you subjectively enjoy
This is the exact point I am trying to tell, the moment you try to be objective with EQ you are 99,99% wrong because of a multitude of factors. At the end of the day we are back to when EQ was called a tone board, but now it is just way more flexible.
>>101355448
This defeats the purpose of owning 711 coupler, because you can either reverse engineer it to any 711 target without having a coupler, or just use it as EQ preset applied to one channel and have your old pos connected to respective cable termination, and EQ by ear your new pos to match the other one.

>>101355187
daily reminder that Cadenza still beat out b2dusk in a blind test with normies.

>>101355685
>blind test
are you this retarded around other people?

>>101355797
What's wrong with a blind test.

>>101355797
*practically blind you pedantic prick.
They weren’t familiar with either the price or any reviews which are the two main things which affect placebo/psychoacoustics

>>101355960
>What's wrong with a blind test.
it wasn't a blind test
>>101355981
need sources on that. just looking at them is enough. just the order in which they heard them is enough. just the fit is enough. it's only slightly better than regular testing, but not by much

>>101354205
Classical has really high dynamic range. In order to properly hear what's going on in the quietest sections of a piece you need a certain volume level, but then the loudest sections of that same piece need to not be fatiguing. So no jagged peaks of bullshit in the high treble. Background noise will decrease your effective SNR, so having nicely noise-isolating tips is also important, same for a cable that doesn't deliver rubbing noise into your skull.

>>101356662
>Classical has really high dynamic range
IEMs in general are good at this.
>So no jagged peaks of bullshit in the high treble.
Live instruments consist of peaks so there's a high probability they will miss treble peaks entirely. Only noise-like content will reveal those peaks.
>Background noise will decrease your effective SNR
IEMs in general are good at this.

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>>101356890
REAL MUSIC

https://youtu.be/9xya0oO5WgA?si=FMcel1s_1K3mCJTE

>>101357451
Not real enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q9Rtd13N1E

>>101356750
you are probably right

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that one guy complaining about audiofool fingernails was right. what in the fuck

>>101359850
the longer the nails, the better the techs

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Why do half of the IEMs on Aliexpress have zero in their name? Is this some kind of meme like the waifus?

>>101337292
>>101337292
Is there a way to buy the Asano Trans building blocks figure alone, without having to buy any of their pos iems?

>budget
No more than $300 but I'd like options that are cheaper.

>Intended use
Gym and home. I'd like something with Bluetooth.

>Frequency response preference
I'm not sure what to reply here. I like neutral sounding headphones and being able to distinguish what I'm hearing. I don't care about bass.

>Past gear
I've had $16 tozos for the last 5 years and they still work good as new, however I'd like something with much better sound quality. I also used a couple of airpods pro 2 for a month and I really liked them a lot but I disliked how I couldn't customize them since I'm on Android so I returned them. I also have some old wireless beats headphones that my brother gave me, they sound good.

I was thinking about getting the AZ80s but it's pricey. Any suggestions?

>>101360614
became a trend for companies to name their entry-level budget model "zero" starting a year or 2 ago, that's all

>>101360901
Galaxy buds Pro 3

>>101357451
I saw this album at my local walmart on vinyl.

>>101360633
Nope. Not even Shiroi's figure can be purchased alone as of now. You have to buy Kara and Nova to get the figures.

>>101361146
Are they better than the AZ80s in terms of sound quality? I can't find any comparison between them.

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MOGGED

>>101362291
so you have both
comparisons.
now.
20 shekels have been deposited to your account good sir

>>101337292
Does anyone have the moondrop space travel?
How's the mic/call quality?

>>101362415
what do you expect rashid.

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Sisters..

>>101363138
>decisive 10k dip
tanch4u clearly has better techs

>>101362291
which is better?

How stable is the latency from "gaming" TWS? When a TWS claimed that it has 50ms latency, would it be always 50ms or would it fluctuate to, say, 150ms?

>>101363361
studio
>>101362414
wish I was a paid shill like many in this general. But other than Moondrop, Tranchjim and Penon, no one offers payment for reviews.

In short, the Studio is straight up better to my ear, better separation, soundstage, sparkly treble, detail. However the Gato has a better cable, better box accessories and better fit.

Unrelated but the Studio is using the same design as the normal Wanker, but with a shorter nozzle and slightly thinner body.

>>101363490
you should never consider twshitters for any kind of competitive gayming

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>Turdear Gayt offers no description of what's new in their budget dd
>TangZu Wanker Skeet Edition offers no real description in what's "upgraded" in their budget dd
>7Hurts offers Aero but no removable cable
>KZ Libshit offers 2 choices, and autonomous processed welded internal coil design with a .1mm gap, cheaper than both choices

>>101337292
just got some old sennheiser momentum neckband in ear buds and i fucking love them. are there any better for the same price? £135

>>101363594
post pics of studio next to original wanker

>>101338513
looks like it says astel & kern. do they have a software for balancing or whatever it is he is doing.

>>101363988
Gave old wanker to my bro, no longer with me im afraid. Sorry!

>>101338513
you could ask on X too.

>>101339526
is this thread/general just people shilling cheap, shitty chinese products?

>>101363594
so its not just og wankers with less bass?

>>101364042
pls understand, /iemg/ cant afford $100 pos

>>101364090
if it isnt the case thats fine, just wondered is all.

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>>101364042
This is the kani general.

>>101364122
>ipods
gay, im out. also, bet none of you have an astell & keen mp3 player do ya? me either :( £3,999 lole why? wtf is an mp3 player going to donthat costs 4 grand. i like british built but not when its a british mp3 player with chink parts for 4 grand.

Would Novas also work as well for Hiphop as my ZeroREDs?

>>101364779
Nigga Really Done Axed Dis LMAO DAT SOME GAY SHIT NIGGA. .. Why Yhuu Want Novas? Dat Shit Fo Gay Niggas. . Get Da Libras . Dem Hoes SLAP.! Yo Broke Azz Dont Needa Spend Mo Then 10$ Dafuq Yhuu Listenin To Neways?

>>101363681
>competitive gayming
Fair enough, rhythm games also count as that. What do gaymers use for that btw, just full blast speaker or that weird L shaped USB-C connector?

>>101364845
A+ for effort I guess.

>>101364845
Why are troons obsessed with nigger dicks?

>>101364914
*Zoomers

>>101364930
You are not a zoomer, freak.

>>101364122
UoH ToT Lust provoking image....

just bought gatos for two quids and a half
thanks colombia

>>101365004
whats a quid?

I wonder if I should sell my my HD 560S, I think I prefer the way my IEMs sound in just about every way.

>>101365123
perfection of sound

my new quid is coming in soon

>>101363937
Truthear posted a graph and distortion metrics. Not saying it’s a good measurement but it’s something. Seems like they centered the coupler peak at 10khz on their rig which is probably unrealistic

>>101363594
Man I really need to see a damn graph this is ridiculous Tangzu.
>>101364845
Man…Tyvan is getting creative

>>101363937
KZ only upgrades its scams. The drivers are the worst in class, beaten by 15 year old panasonics.

>>101337292
I bought Wanker SG because I hadn't heard about Gato.

Did I make a mistake?

>>101365483
I own both, haven’t listened to the wankers in awhile.
The answer in my opinion is yes, but the wan’ers are still very good. I think Tangzu fixed the cable which was the worst part of the original IEM.

>>101365138
iems are better simply by not having a fucking tiara on your head

>>101365573
based.

What a wonderful time to be alive bro's. i just rotate every couple of days or weeks and i love all my iems and buds even though they're all cheap

>>101366419
yeah i cant help but laugh at the retards that bought kilopos

>>101366419
diminishing returns starts at $20

If isolation is top priority, should I go for ANC? Or non-vented bullets? Etymotics? Or is there no significant upgrade in isolation from normal pos?

>>101366485
Etymotics or any IEM that fits your ear and has good eartip seal will outperform most ANC.
ANC is still limited to the isolation you get, which isn't great with most tws form factors.

>>101366674
I never tried ANC, good to know it's far from perfect.

>>101362291
What tips do the studios come with? dual flange or the narrow bores?

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>i don't eq because uhhhhhhhh i'm a troglodyte or something

Are Genelec monitors (especially the small ones like 8020) overpriced or are they worth it? There are cheaper options like Yamaha HS5, JBL 305, or Adam T5V...

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>>101366821
you can fit those in your ear

Dumb frogposter.

>>101364042
Yes. There is little difference between this general and the cheap chink shit general. Everyone here is a poor third worlder.

>>101366815
same meh tips as the SG. They don't come with any of the cool tangzu tips sadly.
>>101365264
I'm not really a measurebator/EQer/trained listener so I can't tell you much beyond that it sounds "pretty good". Don't think anyone actually bought these so graphs might be a ways off.

Would the Tanchjin One be a good upgrade over my old Tin hifi t2s?

>>101367959
>same meh tips as the SG
Ah okay. That's kind of a deal breaker. I wanted it for the dual flanges that's in one of the adverts.

>>101364042
Most people who buy decent iems end up leaving after a while, the only people who stick around are collectors and the most mentally unwell poorfags.

>>101364879
$10 dongle

>>101367959
Interesting. I find the gate to be overall superior to the wan’er(regular old edition) and are basically a slightly different flavor of zero:red to my ears. I’m seriously curious how the new one retunes the old if it’s actually that much of an improvement
>>101368167
missed opportunity for sure. They could’ve raised the price to $25(i know those tips don’t cost more than 4$ to make Tangzu get real) and would’ve gotten more attention probably.
Missed opportunities!

>>101368239
Granted I haven't heard the Waner in a year, but these are clearly superior to the Gato to my ears.

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hello sirs.. should i redeem libra balanced or libra high resolution? thank you sirs

>>101368462
Good morning saar, do not redeem kz.

>>101368462
libra high resolution looks fricking bright. Balanced is also bright but compensates with more bass for a v-shape.
I would do “balanced”

>>101367987
Haven't heard the t2 in a while, but I'd say yes, both in terms of fit and sound. The nozzle on the One is pretty massive so keep that in mind.
>>101368462
Both actually look pretty good. High resolution looks like a 7hz Zero and Chu with a tad bit more bass, and balanced is a lot bassier

>>101368462
oi NEVER ever redeem knowledge zenith, cunt

new bread >>101369107

Any opinions on the Letshuoer S08's?