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MIUI edition

>What phone has X and Y feature?
Don't ask, use these!
https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones
https://phonedb.net/index.php?m=device&s=query

Good Resources:
>Reviews
https://www.gsmarena.com
https://www.phonearena.com
https://www.notebookcheck.net

>Frequency Checkers
https://www.frequencycheck.com
https://kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker
https://willmyphonework.net

>Visual Phone Size Comparison
https://phonesized.com/
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size

>Everything rooting and custom ROM related
>Beware carrier variants with locked bootloaders
https://www.xda-developers.com/

>Debloat your stock ROM
https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater

>Open source Android applications
https://f-droid.org/

>Android App compatibility list for de-googled phones
https://plexus.techlore.tech/

>Custom ROMs suggestions, privacy guides
https://gearjail.neocities.org/

>Recommended phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/smartphone_buyers_guide-review-2036.php

>Try out Android on your iToy
https://trygalaxy.com

>Post a mini-review of your phone
>Anyone aggressively promoting iPhone is an underage micropenis shill who should be ignored
>Discuss upcoming and current models
>Ask for help related to phones
>Tell us how many shekels you spent on a good/bad phone

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How much data do you use
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>>101366311
Between 20-30GB of mobile data a month. Almost exclusively music streaming
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It looks good desu
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>>101366654
I tried to preorder it after Samsung told me I'd get a massive discount , and the discount amounted to less than $100 lmao
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>>101366688
there's a massive discount in Australia where you can get it for 1400aud
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>>101366620
> Between 20-30GB of mobile data a month.
How do you even survive
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>>101366794
My job is driving so I'm basically just listening to music the entire time with occasional GPS. I use a lot more wifi though
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>>101366311
t. bedrotter
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>>101366311
11GB was KurobaEx, jej
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>>101366688
What phone are you trading in? Is the display cracked?
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>>101367044
> trading in
I've never understood it. They usually offering smol prices.
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>>101366961
What is wifi
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>>101367249
I have no reason to keep the phone
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>>101366837
based driverbro, i use the same amount of data for the exact same reasons
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Will buying an iPhone help my "rizz"?
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>>101367806
saar iphoni is bad use v good v sexi Android phone, okay?
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>>101367848
trying too hard
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>>101367932
go away iToddler android and linux is for best
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I’m just gonna get the cheapest pixel I can find and call it a day
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>>101368057
Most reasonable post itt
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I want an eink phone to make my phone less appealing to me for useless things like scrolling but useful for music/ebooks and texting/calls (and I'll keep a work phone for work). I hear they're either only Chinese or gimped. Is that the case?
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>>101368057
Phones are really gay Idk why you'd spend more time thinking about the choice. I work in IT and some guy recently tried to talk to me about phones at work, I really couldn't even pretend to care. They're all the same shit
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>>101368193
>>101368057
this
its not even something worth thinking about
you buy an iphone, you get imessage and facetime and you can still talk to android users.
its simple really
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>>101368219
Hopefully Apple's switch to RCS results in meaningful improvements to images and videos shared with Android users.
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>>101368068
>>101368193
>>101368219
Thanks bros
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>>101368057
I only like the pixel 3 and I keep rebuying it for under $100 and they always last me at least 2.5-3 years
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>>101366281
Took apart my Samsung S10+ to change the battery and after reassembling it the screen turned snowy and glitched when powering on, then gave me a black screen of death after a while. Am I SOL, or is this salveagable?

My phone still works and I can still hook it to a TV to interact with it, so I guess its the screen on the Fritz. But I cant see anything or use the touchscreen.
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>>101368758
Sounds like a cable connector came loose. Open it again and check. Worst case scenario, replace the screen.
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>>101366281
Is it generally better to repair a broken phone, buy a new copy of the old phone for a moderate price, or to upgrade to a newer model phone for some more money?

On one hand, I don't need to relearn or to buy new accessories if I'm buying the same model again. But at the same time its a bit outdated and may lose support someday. Any thoughts?
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>>101368843
How old is it exactly?
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I want to get my girlfriend a phone for her birthday. The phone I gifted her five years ago (Galaxy S10 lite) is almost done for.
I was thinking either Pixel 8a or Galaxy A55. Any other good phones at around 500 €? The most important things are camera and battery life.
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>>101368934
Just stick to those two, pixel has better camera but if she really likes the Samsung experience then you should stick with Sam.
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>>101368859
Galaxy S10+
I enjoy using it a lot but not sure if its time for a upgrade or if I can get away with buying another working S10+
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>>101368193
>>101368219
Why are you even here?
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Motorolla phones any good?
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>>101368843
>>101369085
You can get a new S10+ for like $150 on ebay, just do that if you like the phone so damn much.

Newer phones are better but many lack the headphone jack and sd card slot.
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>>101369151
Yes and no. They have potential but oh boy did it take them a full fucking year to fix random shutdowns on the edge 40 pro...
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>>101369135
>saar why you here saar discus xiaomi fone and xda forum saar where is new rom?
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>>101369151
they have budget friendly stylus phones
only Samsung and Motorola seems to make them
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Anyone on here had an Xperia 1 V and happy with it?
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>>101367806
> Will buying an iPhone help my "rizz"?
If you not in the US, no
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>>101370123
> happy
> Xperia
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>>101368843
> Is it generally better to repair a broken phone, buy a new copy of the old phone for a moderate price, or to upgrade to a newer model phone for some more money?
it depends on the model you have.
>>101369085
> Galaxy S10+
Buy an S24, it's too old to repair .
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>>101370173
*if you're not white
>>101367848
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>>101370211
Scandinavia and the US have seen a huge increase in the number of niggers in recent years. Amazing coincidence.
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>>101370234
and yet your stinky country (india) has had no increase in whites
Amazing coincidence.
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>>101370173
>girls after I tell them that my phone runs Snapdragon Gen 3
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>>101366654
It's literally 1/3 thicker than Chinese folds (8mm vs 12mm) and has much worse cameras
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What are some cool things I can do with an iPhone 15 Pro Max? I just got one delivered today.
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>>101370634
be more likely to get a date and better paying jobs
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>>101370634
Nothing really.

>>101370652
Cringe. I only fuck bitches with Androids. And if they have an iPhone, I make them convert.
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>>101370788
your pecker is tiny and you have never spoken to a woman except your mother, sit down chuddy
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My phone literally died and will not charge

Is the Fold 6 an okay phone? I can get it for around 1200 USD.
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Why the fuck does the flip 6 still not support dex? Fuck Samsung
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>>101366709
You can go lower than that, I paid $1100aud for a 256GB one and a Watch 7
>>101367249
They do unless you pre register for the launch event, then you get more or less double the trade in value.
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>>101370578
Are chink folds dust and water resistant yet?
Are they able to stay partially opened?
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>>101370945
>He gave the shady business a photo of his ID
Hope that 90 dollar (60 in real dollars) discount was worth being doxxed bro
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>>101370915
>pecker
angloids rly are disgusting
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>>101370944
The mostly female demographic of the Flip couldn't care less about it. Get a Fold you sissy.
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>>101370973
It was more like $1400
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>>101371001
No you gave asurion a photocopy of your ID for 90 dollars. Enjoy.
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>>101370123
You're better off reading reviews. If I were you, I'd look into getting to VI instead, I can't imagine it being much more expensive considering how niche the phone is.
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>>101370929
The fold six isn't even out yet
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>>101371063
okay then from what samsung told us does it look like an okay phone to preorder
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>Have old phone with shit camera
>Thinking about going on a national park road trip late August
>Want to get new phone with good camera before then
>Thinking about getting OnePlus 12 but want to wait to see the specs of the Pixel 9
bros I'm getting mixed messages. Does the Pixel 9 release August 13 (i.e. just in time for me), or is that just its official announcement date?

I hate Samsung and I genuinely can't remember why.
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>>101371055
Everyone says the Xperia takes very good natural photos and videos but if I can get that on other phones I'll just get those other phones instead
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>>101371111
Why not buy a camera.
I upgraded my phone for it's camera and since then ive regretted it.
I don't know if its just me, but when I see someone using a camera to take a picture, I feel like theyre appreciating the view much more than someone who uses a phone.
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>>101371111
>I hate Samsung and I genuinely can't remember why.
NPC behavior
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>>101371185
It does take good photos but other flagships can also take natural photos, its just that by default they use the typical blown up, saturated shooting mode since normalfags love it. People usually buy xperias for other features that are absent nowadays like microSD+3.5mm, notchless screen etc. If you don't care for those you're better off getting something else.
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>>101371217
NTA, but I hated my last Samsung because it was filled with bloat, the UI sucked, and it just felt annoying to take places.
This was the Note 10 plus, but I doubt they've changed enough since then.
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>>101371256
>notchless screen
I do think the !V is definitely the best looking flagship, but I hadn't heard great things about it
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>>101371260
As the owner of a Note 10+ that has just died I regret to inform you sir that we shall never be friends.
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>>101371306
I wanted to love the note 10 plus.
I had the Note 8 and its probably my favorite smartphone ive ever had. I upgraded, and would have gone back but I dropped the phone when moving and that was it.
I don't know what it was about the 10 plus, but I couldn't do it.
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>>101370929
Yes.

>>101370944
Eh, my old Note 10+ can do it just fine.
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>>101371335
Yeah and no Samsung flip can. Even the fucking moto razr flips can
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>>101371213
My phone (LG V35 ThinQ) is starting to show its age so I want to get a new phone anyway.
I don't want to carry a relatively bulky camera around everywhere, especially when I already have one in my pocket.
I'm not interested in photography as a hobby. I just like taking pretty pictures when I'm out doing things. Cameras on new phones are already good enough that spending money on a standalone camera is well into the point of diminishing returns for me.
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>>101371368
So the Pixel release date will probably be a little after the announcement so they can do pre-orders. Worst case you could wait till the announcement then buy the other phone if the Pixel doesn't come out soon enough.
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>>101370634
Flip phones are more aesthetic than any smart phone.
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>>101371282
The IV has a bad SoC that brings the entire phone down. The V is much better but still has odd omissions like no LTPO and it still throttles and performs worse than other 8G2 phones. The VI finally has LTPO and better battery life with better cooling, though still performs slightly less well than other 8G3 phones. It also gave up 4K and its 21:9 aspect ratio
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>>101370929
>ubisoft
lol
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>>101371098
Yeah, if you aren't rocking a fold 5 it's good
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>>101371497
Maybe I'll just get an S23 Ultra or a OnePlus 12
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>>101371335
>>101371551
Thanks
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>>101370578
So they should start releasing them globally.
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>>101371707
It's really just the US that doesn't get any of them
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>>101371497
Damn, I wasnt sure if I wanted a Pixel 9 pro or the Xperia 1V/VI
Sounds like ill be getting another pixel... Again...
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>>101371784
Performance and battery life wise I'm positive the V will still be better than the 9 Pro. The VI 100% will be.
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I legit don't understand the actual benefits to a Flip Phone, yet for some reason I want one
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Last I heard xperia were a meme with the worst software amongst the flagships, did they fix it?
They were also getting moisture trapped not only on the camera lense but the body too werent they?

>>101371835
women like it because it fits nicely in their purse, quick and easy to check messages and it look cute
Faggot
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>>101371862
We don't sign our posts here
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I don't care about folding screens, I just want a larger screen. Maybe I'll replace my phone with a tablet
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I would buy an iPhone if the UI wasn't dogshit
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>>101370945
> pre register for the launch event,
Peak goy.
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>>101372086
anti-goy, actually. I'm saving money by getting the best deal, aka peak Jew.
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>>101371835
Horizontal flip phone is cringe, but vertical flip phone sounds great for business tbdesu
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>>101372086
>getting a code to save you 200 dollars by using a temp email address
oh no woe is me
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>>101371813
Yeah, but ive already got a pixel and they'd let me trade my current phone in.
If Sony did that then I'd go for it.
Also I'm moving from US to Japan and I don't know if US banded phones will work in Japan.
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>>101371260
>hated my last Samsung because it was filled with bloat, the UI sucked, and it just felt annoying to take places
Funny how you can't give a single tangible reason. Your whole post amounts to "phone bad because it's not good".
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>>101372711
Uh, yeah?
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>>101372711
To be fair older samsungs were bad with the preinstalled apps, nowadays its much better. At least on mine it didn't come with facebook and other shit, just onedrive MS stuff because of their partnership
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>>101371835
Fun things are fun. This is the way smartphones were meant to be.
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>>101372726
>phone filled with bloat! (even though you can't give a single example and it's all removable)
>UI bad! (even though it has more features than vanilla Android and you can't explain why it's bad)
>It's annoying to take places! (Not even sure what this means.)

>>101372734
Pre-installed apps shouldn't even be considered bloat. iPhones have a shitload of pre-installed apps but magically are never called bloat.
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>>101372818
I think people take issue with third party apps being preinstalled. A galaxy phone being filled with samsung's own apps should be expected, it being filled with Facebook, candy crush, netflix etc I see why people would have an issue with, even if you can just remove it
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Is Swappa a reliable site?
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>>101372935
yeah ive used them a couple times. works best in the US.
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>>101373053
Thanks. If I ever get the courage to buy a foldable without a protection plan, I will be there.
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>>101373181
It is now that I realize most insurance companies also have phone insurance. I wonder how good those policies are
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>>101373181
try to avoid shartsung
and ios too
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>>101366281
Shill me a phone, I just broke my pixel 6, anything below 400 bucks
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>>101372818
You know what? Your impotent rage has convinced me. My next phone will be a Samsung.
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I'm trying to add my AOL e-mail account to my Gmail app. I added my Gmail account just fine, but the app says my log-in credentials for AOL are incorrect. I've checked over it several times, and even changed my password to make sure I'm using the right one, but it still says my credentials are incorrect. Has anyone else had this problem before? I'm on a OnePlus in case that matters.
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>>101366281
So I bought a pixel and installed GrapheneOS
Now what?
Nobody msgs me, calls me or contacts me anyway, so what was even the point for privacy?
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have an Honor Magic V2,
don't like how it's a commie chinese piece of shit.
what should i upgrade to soon?
Pixel Fold 2? Galazy Z Fold 6? something else?
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>>101373856
The designs of both are worse than what you have (pixel fold 2 definitely will be don't worry) if you're fine with that go for it
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>>101370173
Not in US, Australia or Japan*
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hi /g/
what's a phone that can run Blue Archive maxed settings at 60fps and not melt? I have a Redmi Note 10 but mfer heats up like a mfer and makes the framerate go to hell. It also runs at like 20fps at max resolution
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how can I stop shitdroid from killing my background apps?
is this normal on all android 14 devices or did I just get chinked?
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https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a55-12824.php

looking at the a55, is the 12GB RAM version only available in India?
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How did the Chinks do it?
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>>101374355
Silicon carbon battery
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Unihertz are releasing a new "max" phone, I now regret purchasing a Jelly Pro.
https://liliputing.com/unihertz-jelly-max-is-a-bigger-smartphone-thats-still-small-enough-for-single-handed-use/
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>>101374584
It's over for CMF
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>>101374157
8Gen 2 phone at minimum in my opinion
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>>101374355
Are they using Samsung displays?
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>>101374772
Honor uses boe
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I'm about to root and install a custom rom on my phone. What is the best tool to backup apps AND their data so I can easily install them again on the new rom and have settings and preferably logins work just like they did on my old rom? The Google one saves apps (only those on the playstore) but no data so I have to redo everything.
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>>101374355
>>101370959
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should I get the Poco X6 Pro? are their better phones in that price range I should look at instead?
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>Pixel 9 Pro Fold
Ultra Max FE
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I don't understand why Samsung still can't get the under display camera to be completely invisible, Chink phones did it like 5 years ago.
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Mmmh my Xperia is dying after less than 2 years
- Camera's is not working randomly
- fingerprint button dead
- Audio jack is making a buzzing noise now (doesn't happen anywhere else)
- 4g/5g is not properly working sometimes
What phone should I get? Thinking of the S24 but apparently the battery isn't great? Ideally I'd want something that can last a day on 4g
And for jse it's just 4chan/youtube/porn, that's it
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>>101377019
If that's literally all you use your phone for, then just get an A55
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>>101377019
nothing 2a
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>>101377077
>A55
Too big for me
Need something that can be one handed easily
>>101377094
>nothing 2a
Tf is this wall-e shit
I want something that looks nice too
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>>101377328
the black or white versions look nice. i get so many comments on my white one.
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>>101368057
>>101368563
I went through a couple 4as the battery becomes useless and isn't worth replacing after a couple years.
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what phones feel the least flimsy and also don't get hot doing basic things like gps
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>>101373766
> I'm trying to add my AOL e-mail account to my Gmail app.
Good goy.
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I'm never buying a Pixel again. I'm a fucking retard.
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I have a problem that REALLY annoys me.
So I have a 128gb SD card and inserted it into my Xiaomi phone.

However it is not being used much.
How can I actually make use of this thing despite the situation?

Why did I even buy this micro SD card, if that is not doing the job despite the feature shown.

God, I can't wait to upgrade to a 256-512gb phone when they hit 200€
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>>101377845
which one did you buy? the 7 i got for familia is working ok
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Give me an honest Poco F6 review. No bugs and jeets allowed.
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>>101371835
I was considering one or those older ones
It fits nicely in your pocket
You have the mini display for pager like notifications and the main screen is protected.
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>>101371862
My xperia 10III's chargeport broke, only letting me charge when powered off and only slowcharging. It has reception issues as well.
Not happy with it honestly.
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>>101378183
8 pro. display broke and I don't know if it's actually broke or if the cable came loose somehow. Opening this thing is niggerlicious, but I'm back on my old Note 9 and it's honestly not that much different, sans my carrier being niggerlicious.
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>>101379024
welp, just shattered the glass trying to lift it. lol. seething very hard.

EVERY SINGLE GOOGLE PHONE I HAVE BOUGHT HAS BROKE IN ROUGHLY A YEAR.
Nexus 6: MMC broke and couldn't hold data
Pixel 1: WiFi radio broke, but data worked just fine (wtf?)
Pixel 8 Pro: display cuts out.
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Hello everyone, I'd like to know if you guys know whether an MP3 player that can sort audio by genre even exists on android. I've tried multiple but still couldn't fine one that could satisfy these simple needs.
1. Imports (and reads) m3u8 playlists.
2. Can import songs (over 4k) fast.
3. Can search built-in tags using custom filters.
Ex: On foobar2k I can search "genre HAS Favs", that'll display every single song where one of the tags is "Favs", or I can do "genre HAS favs AND NOT genre HAS Headphones" to display all songs with the "Favs" tag that ALSO do not contain the "Headphones" tag.
This is the most important feature I want, which is even a difficult thing to find on desktop programs but I really need it.
4. Preferably has a built-in equalizer.
5. Preferably doesn't look like shit.
6. Preferably has a lyrics viewer (my lyrics are embedded into the file).
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>>101380275
AIMP
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>>101376700
likely because it's patented by some meme corp and chinks don't give a fuck about patent licensing.
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>>101380717
And how do you exactly can I search tags the way I've explained on AIMP? I've downloaded it and I can't figure out how I'm supposed to do that.
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>>101378565
What's there to say, it's the exact same thing as with any other Poco F series phone - Great hardware for the money but don't even think about buying it if you aren't planning to put your own software on it

This was the case for many years and nothing has changed
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I need a <$100 second phone, something that supports Lineage or some other non-bloat custon rom. Any advice?
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>>101380926
My Music > Genres.
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Bought the Pixel 7a and immediately flashed GrapheneOS on it. Feels weird but also liberating not seeing any Google related apps. What apps do (you) have in your GOS phone?

Also, I assumed the 7a was going to be light since it's the smallest phone in among the three but how come it's heavier than my OP7T? Is this the norm now? I also noticed that when my Aunt bought her Samsing A53, it's significantly bigger than her A51.
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>>101381119
Okay, now how do you exactly can I search tags the way I've explained on AIMP?
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>>101381140
Syncthing fork? What new functionality does it bring?

>>101381140
>What apps do (you) have in your GOS phone?
Mull instead of Firefox because of it's hardening features.
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>>101374725
>8Gen 2
What does that mean?
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Which used Pixel would be the most reasonable to pick up at this point if I wanted a secondary/backup schizo phone with GrapheneOS on it?
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>>101381473
I think hes referring to snapdragon generation?
Not sure why he didnt just say so.
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>>101381809
if youre that addicted to child porn just use a libre booted thinkpad instead of a google-built phone
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>>101381140
What gallery do you use? I use Fossify.
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Just got an S24 Ultra.
Essential configs (I heard of the Samsung bloat) or Apps?
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>>101380275
I'm not sure about point 3 but for all the other points I recommend Musicolet. It's great all around and the app works entirely offline. It's perfect for a huge and well organised music library.
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>>101381261
It's more updated. Of course that doesn't mean it's necessarily better but in my old phone, the official app seems to love draining my battery. Tested the fork and it doesn't have the same problem
>Mull instead of Firefox because of it's hardening features.
Can it run extensions? That's the only reason why I use Firefox and it seems to be the only browser that does that.
>>101381830
The stock one is fine for me at the moment. Still waiting for the FUTO guys to make Immich good then I'll switch.
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>>101381809
Get one of the a series phones.
The 7a or 8a would be good. Should be going on sale in a month when they release the 9.
Check eBay for used pixels if you don't wanna wait.
The a series is the cheaper option of each gen. I had a 4a and loved it to death, but it doesn't get updates anymore from Graphene.
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>>101370123
I'm about to buy one of these, am I making a mistake? Seems to be perfect apart from having a 4k screen for no reason
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>>101382228
I know kiwibrowser can use all chrome extensions. Thats the one I use
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>>101381958
Go watch a video on One UI 6.1 and Good Lock.
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>>101382727
Go for it.

>4k screen for no reason
Be happy when a company gives you more.
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>>101383006
I would have rather had an LTPO 2K display with greater brightness
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>>101383301
This but Unironically.
I'm thinking of getting a Fujifilm as I like taking pictures but hate with a phone
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is there a caller id app that isn't complete bloatware ala trucaller and callapp?
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>>101383420
I wanted to do this too but there's honestly not much difference between one of those small cameras and a phone. A phone will take good video as well. The main appeal is the zoom, but everything else is better on a phone.
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>>101383646
I like the feel and weight of an actual camera.
Being able to separate it from my phone and have something with a dedicated use is really nice to me.
Like, when I use a camera, it distracts me less from where I am and what I'm trying to capture. But this could also just be a me thing.
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>>101366311
>YouTube: 43.34 GB

How?
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>>101383301
i dont understand the picture, why should the guy on the left have a camera? why should his opinion on phone cameras rely on him having a camera or not?
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>>101383646
>everything else is better on a phone.
lol
lmao even
a 5 year old rabal SHITS on an iphone
>>101383695
keep in mind the latest fuji is like 1.5k, it's an expensive hobby, refer to /p/ for further disappointment
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>>101383801
>a 5 year old rabal SHITS on an iphone
No it doesn't. Especially not in daylight
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>>101383801
I know its an expensive hobby. I'm planning on starting out with a used camera, no reason to buy the nicest model.
I almost always had a camera all growing up. Mostly hand me downs. I loved taking pictures until college. Haven't done much till my last vacation when I used my phone and it felt lacking. I like how Fujifilm cameras work and ive heard great things too.
>/p/
I don't really know if I wanna go there. Last time I was there years ago it disuaded me from the hobby like how /mu/ does for my love of music. I bet I could get better camera advice from /out/
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>>101383717
Addiction and/or mental deficiency.
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>>101383725
Because the guy on the left assumes that cameras in phones aren't necessary and unimportant because we have "real" cameras
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>>101384107
Oh, I see. I'm just like, amazed because I honestly didn't expect YouTube to take up so much storage at all in my entire life.

I've another question if you don't mind me asking; do I like, need a SIM installed in order to view "Mobile data usage" on my phone? I had gotten curious about what mines is currently at yet I have no way to access it at all.
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>>101384173
Is having "amazing quality" a necessity? As long as the camera is functional, who cares? If you want to take nice pictures, just get a real camera.
>so where is your "real" camera, then?
I don't have the need to take nice pictures, a phone's camera should be a tool that does the bare minimum. The fact that you believe you deserve have an all-in-one device with no drawbacks is honestly pathetic.
I still don't understand the image macro btw, also stop conflating "not caring about quality" with "having a camera at all".
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>>101383925
I went the Fuji route, though with digital cameras its less about the body itself, any manufacturer will do, the gamechangers are the lenses, so pick the body based on the lenses you like/can afford. a
My particular reason for getting a separate camera was all good phones having an ultra-wide lens equivalent over the main camera, which I strongly dislike. In daytime and portrait shots it makes my relatively recent flagship look like a toy.
I'm not bashing phone cameras, they have their uses and I still use mine a lot, albeit I switched to shooting JPEG+RAW nowadays. A phone is very quick to take a shot out of the pocket, which is great when speed is of the essence and using a proper camera in low-light/nighttime situations provides a new appreciation for algorithm magic phones use to handle those shots.
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>>101384226
>Is having "amazing quality" a necessity?
Why wouldn't it be?
>if I don't need it nobody else does
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>>101384173
Ive been thinking about this for a while, but cameras on phones are weird.
They're mostly for shit like Instagram, or for boomers to take pictures of vacations, or for people who don't really care about photos all that much, but some will make the decision on what phone they buy based off of what camera it has.
If youre doing that, then why not just buy a cheaper phone and a camera that you can wirelessly send photos between?
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>>101384355
Because phone cameras balance a lot of things
>easy point and shoot
>using algorithms to boost the quality
>is already on a device I have to buy
>extremely portable and versatile (even if zoom and low light performances aren't that good)
>Less expensive than a full body
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>>101384355
Convenience, mostly. It's far from parity in image quality, but essentially you have the equivalent of a camera body and three-four lenses, plus genuinely superb video capabilities, in something you always have on you. People are much more willing to accept a $1000+ priceetag when they think they get an all-in-one package for that. A decent cheap phone + a decent starting camera kit will cost more in total.
As to why people care about the camera quality on a phone so much, it's because it's honestly the main distinction between phones these days, as performance, capabilities, even Android or iOS are all pretty much irrelevant in everyday use.
Phone manufacturers know this so they lean heavily into that when marketing their devices.
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>>101384286
I get that.
On my last vacation, I used my phone and almost felt like I was disrespecting my subjects cause I was taking photos with a phone. All the other tourists at the site were using phones then immediately sending the pics to social media and I felt like they weren't really appreciating what they were taking pictures of. But the guys with cameras always seemed to be taking the time to take good pictures, and it looked like they were enjoying the moment.
I bought some cheap Polaroid camera from a shop and had some fun shooting a few pictures the next day. It was much more fun than shooting with a phone.
>>101384419
>>101384542
Ok, I can respect that. If you aren't serious about taking photos and just wanna do it every now and then, and wouldn't buy a camera normally, then yeah. And to be fair, a phone is a huge investment now that theyre often starting out at $500 new.
I guess I'm just jaded over people who, for an example, go to Rome to take pictures of themselves in Rome, and not to appreciate the culture or architecture.
It was like this before camera phones, but I think its gotten worse now that we all have one.
"You shouldn't care what others think" yeah, but when we're all in the same place and I wanna get a picture of something and a mob of tourists block my shot, it gets annoying.
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>>101384419
Plus video, because a lot of smaller dedicated cameras are terrible with video
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>>101384310
>Why wouldn't it be?
Because if you truly wanted to take good pictures you'd have a dedicated device meant for taking good pictures, retarded room temp iq nigger?
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>>101381958
remove all Microsoft shit and you are good to go. Download goodlock and use theme park to use any icon theme from the play store
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>>101384221
Yes, but you should be able to see your WiFi usage if you don't have carrier data. Both options are hidden deep in menus on modern Android but just search "Non-carrier data usage" for WiFi. "App data usage" is the term for mobile data on my phone.
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>>101384835
So all phone cameras have to be stuck in 2007?
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Americlap on T-Mobile upgrading from my Galaxy S9 Plus now that the battery is starting to go, criteria are:
>Smaller than the Galaxy S9+
>Headphone jack
>SD Card and Dual SIM for travel
>no retarded notch or screen cutout
>max budget $400
GSMarena says these are my options, any reason not to grab the cheapest one and call it good?
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>>101371862
Sony fells hard after the Z1 Compact and whey they remove their media proper implementation of media apps
I genuinely miss the Sony Walkman app where it can retrieve the metadata of a music like Shazam
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>>101385013
I pray for you to be baiting right now because if not you'd single-handedly dismantle my belief that god exists because no higher being would willingly create someone as dumb as you.
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how do i check my phones 5 GHz support? theres some 5 GHz networks it doesnt seem to "See" so i guess theres different 5 GHz specs
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>>101385332
Take out the top two since 5 iii MIGHT be prone to green lines (5 ii was the top green lining xperia). Thanks, samsung.
Xperia 10 iii might have alt dp but the processor is eh and out of updates.
Sn0y updoot policies only imoroved on the Mark VI so...
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>>101383301
The real argument is
>Who cares about the camera, all relevant phone cameras are good enough and get boosted by software as it is
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>>101378134
Because Jewgle killed the capability to use the sd card as external storage. Pixels not having sd slot shows how much they care about it. While you could force apps to install to sd, updooting them will kick them back to the internal storage.
Currently have 256gb no sd slot phone and I'm already regretting it. Jack can be remedied but I had to use ftp solutions for my media to make up for lack of storage.
>>101379096
Not a hardware company.
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Vivo X100 Pro owner here - quick review if anyone's interested.

I've got 16/512GB version for €803 (around $875) and have been using it for about 4 months. I'm happy to say that it didn't dissapoint me in any way. I bought it mainly for cameras as I've been enjoying mobile photography for a while but never had "proper" camera phone, until now. In my opinion, it definetly lives up to the hype. Taking photos with it is a pure pleasure, especially the macro shots I enjoy most.

In terms of software, I was worried it will be unpolished Chinese blob, but I got pleasantly surprised. It's smooth, polished and overall just nice and stable. There are few things I could nitpick such as more or less aggressive applications notification management or forcing you to use its default launcher (you can get around it), but once you set things up, you basically forget about these. I also removed all of Chinese bloatware via ADB and installed Google Play directly from Vivo store, without any workarounds (it just werks). Sadly, I can't say anything about gaming performace as I don't play mobile games. On the side note, I managed to run local instance of LLM model using Ubuntu in Termux, which is pretty neat desu.

Battery life is more than enough for me, I usually charger it every other day (though I don't use it most of the day because of the work). Charging speed is also great thanks for the 120W charger.

Build quality is top notch, but I guess it's a standard for this price point. I also have no issues with mobile data connection, even though I'm European and it doesn't support B20 band.

Overall, it's a great cameraphone, especially now, when it's cheaper because of the X100 Ultra premiere. If anyone has any questions about this phone, I'll try to answer them!

And here's one of my favorite photos I took with it
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>>101385332
>Smaller than the Galaxy S9+
Lol
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>>101385332
>Smaller than the Galaxy S9+
>Headphone jack
>SD Card and Dual SIM for travel
>no retarded notch or screen cutout
He doesn't know haha
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>>101368193
>>101368219
>phones are all the same
industry-wide sure, but the appeal between Apple/Samsung/Google is entirely different and the featuresets are also completely different
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>>101385435
>has no coherent point
I accept your concession
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>>101385590
>>101385891
>>101385903
So, most recent model of the Xperia 5 I can afford?
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Does the Xperia 1 V take shit photos or not? I've seen very positive and very negative things about the cameras. And that the point and shoot mode is the same as the priority shutter mode.
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when will retarded goycattle realize uber thinness and wideness don't make a phone comfortable to hold? And that they could be getting more battery capacity from the thickness?
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Wanted to get xperia 1 v for the features and LOS support but then I remembered how atrocious android 12+ is.
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>>101386026
Use a phone like the goyim use it(with a case) and you will understand.
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>>101386172
What's wrong with a case?
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>>101386172
i already do but its still annoying
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>>101386186
He's saying that cases add a good deal of thickness
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>>101386199
but it negates the whole point plus it doesn't net you more battery
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>>101385332
>Sony
>>max budget $400
Kek
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>>101370186
I was pretty happy with my X10 Mini Pro a couple of years ago. Had the same CPU as their flagship phone at the time so it was quite snappy, despite also being really small while still whopping a comfy keyboard.
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If only I knew then what I do now... Maybe I would have cherished her for a little longer.
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>>101386384
Man, I grew up too poor to have the cool phones. I always wanted a phone with a keyboard, and I always ended up with whatever my mom would get as a free upgrade. And I appreciate it, but man the T-Mobile sidekick was just generationally cool
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>>101385332
Xperia 5 V
Xperia 10 VI
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>>101386431
You legit could not have a cooler phone than this
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I miss keyboards
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>>101385332
>S10e
>Xperia 10 [Roman Numerical of your choosing]
those are the only two sane options in current year.
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Can android phones (specifically Redmi Note 8T running lineageOS) use BT & wired headphones simultaneously to watch video/listen to music together or is that a no go?
Google seems to give contradicting answers
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>>101385771
How would you rate the features/modes of the camera? I have seen how with each iteration each model has been getting more and more of them

Where did you buy it? What kind of case did you get for it?

How do Black/White photos come out of it?

How do photos look on it when using the 50MP mode?

How do the Zeiss Natural/Vibrant modes make photos look?
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>>101386637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2n2ftM-MwI
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Best phone under $200?
(Aliexpress/Amazon US preferrably, shipping to Florida for import to my country)
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>>101386798
Pixel 7 prob
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>>101386431
picrel is very pretty. Piano design looks nice.
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Looking for shit phone in the AS CHEAP AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE price range, must have:

> at least 1080p display clearly visible outside
> 3.5mm jack
> at least 6GB of RAM
> at least 128GB internal storage, or a MicroSD slot if lower storage
- NFC
- 4500mah+ battery
- won't lag using run of the mill apps like Instagram or Google Maps
- NOT a back-mounted fingerprint reader
> released within the last 2 years
> good build quality
> not stupidly bad camera
> AC WI-FI

Would be nice:

> 5000mah+ battery
> non-chinese
> OIS for the main back camera
> 10bit, color-accurate display

Currently debating:
> Galaxy A15 4G
> Moto G14
> Redmi Note 13 4G

A bit more expensive:
> Galaxy A25
> Moto G84
> Redmi Note 12s

Don't care about UI (will install custom launcher), don't care about screen type, don't care about notches or floating cameras, dont care about fingerprint reader speed, don't care about face unlock, gaming, ultrawide/zoom cameras, front camera, and speakers.
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>>101366281
People with 120 HZ phones: do you bother setting the screen refresh rate to 120 hz even if you know it kills the battery faster?
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>Not interested in the folding thing
>Fold 6 is cheaper than 24Ultra with the preorder discount
Fuck, what should I do

>>101370945
lmao sorry mate thought the discount was only 90 but turns out you can't use the other codes unless you trade in
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>>101387136
Yes, I have chargers at both home and work
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>>101377845
> I'm never buying a Pixel again. I'm a fucking retard.
Here you go
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>>101381958
> Essential configs (I heard of the Samsung bloat) or Apps?
Samsung doesn't have any bloat compared to MIUI.
Get Dashchan for imageboards lol.
Solid explorer is also nice.

Delete all Microsoft shit (it doesn't work for me anyway).
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Do Samsungs really have that much bloat? How can $1000 phones get away with that shit?
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>>101383717
Podcasts aren't so popular in Russia.
So I'm listening to basically podcast types of videos with no graphics.
>>101387141
> Not interested in the folding thing
Don't buy fold then.
> preorder discount
Good goy. Fo grab new product first before any honest reviews few months later.
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>>101386746
Features of camera are quiet advanced when compared to other brands I used (Xiaomi/Oppo) or my fiancé's S21 Ultra. You can enable grid/level lines, watermark and others directly from drop-down menu in default photo mode. You can also enable much more in settings, such as gesture control of exposure/saturation. I bought it from Tradingshenzen, they managed to ship it so I didn't pay custom duties, tax and others, which was great.

I got this case from Ali, great quality one, highly recommend it: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyXaupp

I enjoy shooting black/white thanks to dedicated filter called "Xiao Quan", pic rel is the one I like. 50MP is a mixed bag; it can yield more detail but usually at the cost of noise and oversaturated photos. Also, the 50MP is separate mode which you can use only by going to the "More" tab, which is annoying and I honestly forget about it existing.

Zeiss Natural is the one mode I prefer, though in low-light conditions it tend to make colors completely lifeless and I usually use Vibrant mode to shoot in dark lit rooms and such. Otherwise, it's my go-to. Vibrant is pretty well-balanced considering other manufacturers tuning, but usually a bit over the top for my liking (I prefer to stick to more authentic look).
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>>101388027
> Do Samsungs really have that much bloat?
No.

It has some Microsoft shit I can't use anyway.
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>>101387136
People don't care about battery life
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>>101371862
>Last I heard xperia were a meme with the worst software amongst the flagships, did they fix it?
I mean sony basically wants it to be stock android. Personally I like that since I always degoogle and go full-foss anyway. It's less bloat to kill.
The reasons to get an xperia are: SD slot with dual sim, 3.5mm jack, great battery life, and really good cameras that don't adulterate the image at all.
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>>101388027
People exaggerate how much bloated truly has. It's not even intrusive in the slightest. It's just shoved in there just in case people want or need to use it. Even if it really is that bothersome there are ways you can remove it if you have a PC on hand. They'll keep in mind, and I could be wrong, it make it forcefully reinstalled if you do any major updates.
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>New phone is one inch taller than old phone
>Interferes with my stride when in my pocket
FUCKER

>>101375605
Plan to manually log-in or account transfer everything. There is no consistency between what goes in the locked root side of an app's storage and what is on the user side and what even gets backed up to google's servers or other backup apps.

>>101382727
>having a 4k screen for no reason
The newest gen "fixes" this, but is also a bit fatter too.
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>>101388152
> I mean sony basically wants it to be stock android.
But it's shit
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not a smartphone question but this thread is active and close enough

>starting to travel a bit more
>want a device that I can watch media on that isn't my phone
>a tablet seems like a good option, but don't know if it's worth buying a "premium" one like an iPad, or just grabbing an Amazon tablet during Prime Day
I have a laptop and I'll bring that for longer trips, but for a day trip on my motorcycle, I rather something compact that I can throw into my side bag (whereas a laptop wouldn't fit)
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>MFW I bought a Motorola G54 in the Amazon today
>MFW the Motorola G54 has an IPS display so it'll never get burn-in issues
>MFW the Motorola G54 is an objectively perfect smartphone
Honestly, I don't know why people buy flagship smartphones.

https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Dual-SIM-Unlocked-Smartphone-Midnight/dp/B0CF2PV74C/
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>>101388027
My s23 ultra only let's me disable Facebook not uninstall
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Thoughts on the Nothing CMF Phone 1?
I have a Realme 8 pro and its still very good, but the CMF Phone looks like a really nice upgrade for the same price I paid for my Realme 3 years ago (£180). Gaming performance looks great for the price as well (though I'll mostly be emulating things, actual phone games are all gacha cancer).
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>>101388493
Poorfag retard
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>>101388648
Not that anon but I also don't understand why normal people buy hugely expensive phones when they all look the same and just browse facebook/twitter/youtube/insta/tiktok etc like the rest of us anyway.
Sure the new phones are crazy powerful but budget phones are now so good they do everything without a problem unless you're some kind of competitive phone gamer or really need the best camera ever
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>>101388648
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>>101388675
>Poorfag projection
How cute.
>>101388672
> Not that anon but I also don't understand why normal people buy hugely expensive phones when they all look the same and just browse facebook/twitter/youtube/insta/tiktok etc like the rest of us anyway.
Because people want real thing
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>>101388700
>Because people want real thing
We aren't talking about knockoff impersonator phones here, anyone thinking a cheaper phone isn't "real" is genuinely lower mentally functioning
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Is it worth upgrading from a Pixel 4a to a 4a5g or 5?
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>People happily discussing flagships
>poorfags talking about thirdie phones like motorolla and xperia and chinkphones
Get rid of all immigrants, geoblock their IP
This is like /iem/ going from discussing audio devices that just happen to be in ears to trying to find the cheapest slop and now arguing that their $20 in ears are just as good if not better than $500 devices
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>>101388755
go wipe the tears off your face
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>>101388751
why not just get a newer 5g phone like the 6 or 7?
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>>101388672
because they probably think they need it and want the best camera/battery. They still think of budget phones as some slow android that was never updated past kitkat.
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>>101387133
A25 or G84.
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>>101388832
3.5mm
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>>101388883
Oh. I just automatically assume every phone from the last 5 years doesn't have the jack.
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>>101388847
and they're not wrong
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>>101366281
What phones have an aux port, an sd card slot, a stylus, and are rootable? Bonus for removable battery even if I have to import into usa
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>>101388883
cant you just use a usb adapter?
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>>101389146
Your requirements limit you to only the Galaxy Note 4, fren.
Samsung Xcover6 Pro has all three but the stylus. LG V60 has stylus but the battery is sealed.
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>>101388912
retard
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>>101389222
Why not rec the moto g stylus? It sounds perfect
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>>101388755
The Xperia 1 costs $1300
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>>101388336
What proprietary apps does samsung or whoever offer that people actually care about?
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>>101388755
Have some compassion pal, it's not their fault.
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>>101389238
Only address your superiors when spoken to first, thirdie

>>101389284
Even worse, an expensive thirdie phone
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>>101389151
I mean I guess but I don't want to have to start using gay dongles and mechanically wear out the charging port
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>>101389352
>charge wirelessly
>leave DAC/AMP in port
yw
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>>101389320
I live in the states you worthless fag. Probably an iToddler too, I bet.
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>>101389222
Checked and thanks for the reply. What if we remove the removable battery
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>>101389533
brownoid cope lmao
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>>101389542
Dance for us monkey
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>day 1 android user
>thinking about switching to iphone15
Is this a mistake? I no longer rice my phone or fuck around with custom roms I just can't bother with that shit anymore and looking to migrate away from pixel 6 pro (not out of a necessity but I want to)
It's either that or the s23 ultra since it seems like there is some fuckery with the s24 camera
Usage:
>waze
>light internet browsing
>no games
>text & phone calls
that's it
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>>101389560
probably just best to stick to stock android
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Anyone know where to find an unneutered kindle apk? Had a Samsung phone and the version from their appstore still allows payments, but all I've been able to find online are copies of the apks from Google Play, and for some god forsaken reason Amazons shitty appstore doesn't appear to ship it. Why the hell do these dipshit companies not just allow you to download their programs directly from their websites?
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>>101381473
A phone running snapdragon 8 gen 2. Probably overkill for Blue Archive but might as well be future proof, that chip should run current and future games well.
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>>101387136
>People with 120 HZ phones: do you bother setting the screen refresh rate to 120 hz even if you know it kills the battery faster?
Yes, 120Hz 1440p at all times. Paid flagship price for flagship specs I'm going to use it.
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>>101389560
if you dont rice that doesnt mean you have to switch out. for me ive always liked that with android you always can do things if you need to in a pinch. like if i need to torrent a file or tether my phone (apple has some weird behaviours with wired tethering), i can just do it without having to hack
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>>101388638
it lwooks good, no nfc though if that matters for you. nothingos is really nice (using a 2a, so no idea about the cmf 1)
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>>101388527
>My s23 ultra only let's me disable Facebook not uninstall
What shitty carrier did you buy it from? Mine didn't even come with facebook. Bought it unlocked off samdungs site
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>>101388527
you gotta learn how to use adb, or does samsung disable that too?
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>>101390021
Google Fi but it was never locked or anything
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>>101387141
Buy it and if you don't like it take advantage of samsung's generous trade in offer
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I want to take a year long break from Samsung and try another Android phone. If someone has a good enough reason I might even be willing to try an iPhone. Currently have an S23 Ultra and the only thing keeping me in the Samsung ecoysystem is OneUI. The S24 line sucked, the Fold 6 sucks and I have zero faith the S25 will be any better. I don't want to give Samsung anymore money when there are other manufacturers who deserve it more.

Can I get some recommendations please? My only argument against an iPhone at this time is the inability to download modded apps.
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>>101390260
>the Fold 6 sucks
Why? I'm about to preorder it
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>>101390317
It's only upgrade is AI slop
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Shuld i replace phone screens for my Huawei phone? Should I buy the screen from aliexpress, amazon or some third place? Could I also replace charging port since i know how to solder?
I want to test my technician skills
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>>101390338
oh I'm using a really old phone so it would be a huge upgrade for me
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>>101390360
why do you want a foldable phone?
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>>101390260
>Currently have an S23 Ultra
>only thing keeping me in the Samsung ecoysystem is OneUI.
>The S24 line sucked
>the Fold 6 sucks
>I have zero faith the S25 will be any better
Your phone isn't even 2 years old calm down faggot. The S24 line doesn't suck it's just a minor upgrade and that's how it is for all phone brands. Phones have progressed so far that upgrades aren't worth it every year. Keep your phone for longer and stop looking at minor upgrades that aren't targeted at you. I have a friend who uses an S21 Ultra and it works perfectly. Why can't you use the S23 Ultra for a few more years? It's a good solid phone
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>>101390418
Just trying to make a change, see what else is out there I guess.
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>>101390407
I don't but with the preorder deal it's cheaper than what I would pay for a 24ultra or even 23 ultra
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>>101390448
If you want to make a change then just download goodlock and customize the shit out of it
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>>101389526
You could expand even more. I forgot that the Motorola phones with stylus exists. I'm just not familiar with besides the 1-2 major updoots which shouldn't bother you since you mod anyway.
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>>101390484
are they the only phones your considering? i just dont see the appeal
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>>101390260
>S23 Ultra
That phone should run on top of its game for at least the next 2 years
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I'm looking at getting the Poco F6 Pro, is there anything else cheaper with similar specs I should look at? It's going on sale tonight for about £400 from AliExpress
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>>101389146
Moto G Stylus 2024
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>>101390545
Worst case I can trade it in for the S25Ultra and get almost all the money back
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>>101370480
My girlfriend bought herself a vivo x100 pro, I don’t know why. I have S24 ultra.
>>101374039
Well, that is, the most moronic markets. There is no point in discussing 3 countries in the world. Only there is a problem with green balls BTW.
I tried to understand this problem for a very long time, because it doesn’t exist in my country.

>>101388527
S24u doesn't have a Facebook app preinstalled, by the way. However, in my country Facebook is recognized as a terrorist organization and I’m not kidding.
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>>101388089
Thanks for the reply

What about Shooting in Raw, does it give you the option to shoot 50MP Raw images like the S23U does for example?

Have you tried the astrophotography modes yet? I have watched their promotions and seen that the Vivo can do astro mode without a tripod
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Any alternatives or fork of VIMusic you guys using?
I love it but it's getting quite broken now and the development seems to be haulted.
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>>101390550
Much longer. My S8 ran perfectly after 4 years
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>>101384999
Can I admit something to you anon? I was like, thinking I had to go on "Mobile Network" to find my settings and I couldn't click on that because it's greyed out for me. This is why I asked if I needed to have a SIM in my phone (because I don't have one in my phone because I don't need it).

I had NO idea that I had to go in the "WiFi" section on my phone. Like, all I thought it did was give me something like connecting to the internet and such. I had NO IDEA that it also had things like:

>Wi-Fi data usage

Because I didn't think that sort of thing would be under that feature. But now that I HAVE seen it, I can now click on the feature and see what uses up all my data.

>YouTube: 41.50 GB

...Yeah, I think I'm turning into >>101366311 because I basically use my phone for watching vids and playing games. Hell, I even checked my tablet and here's what it gave me for YT:

>111 GB.

Nevertheless, I thank you for answering my question, anon. I don't know if you'll see my reply (since the thread is no longer being bumped) but I greatly appreciate you helpibf me out.



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