bump

Based old man
Fuck clouds!

>>101466345
>I think the problem with the guitar going directly into a DI box (at least a passive one)
that's why you use actives ones for instruments with pickups like guitars and basses. passive di is mainly for things like keyboards which are already powered

i think reamping through your pedalboard for effects processing can be useful but my experience with my own pedalboard is that it's really noisy even with a voodoo labs isolated power supply so i need to upgrade all the patch cables and maybe it'll be better. i'll take individual effects as processing but really don't need everything in the chaini. a lot of guitar pedals are much worse/more limited versions of things you can do in a daw, you just have to find the envelope of performance in the plugin effect that matches what you're used to with pedals

>beato
https://youtu.be/0aCXbZvBZqI

This blue screen shit is making all the threads die way faster than normal

I need riddim tutorials made by a hot girl

>>101477308
best i can do is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXUsAmeE1Wg

>>101476904
This will be the day the music died

>>101472219
I want to be munecat's tampon baby.

Any good dnb/jungle resources? I'm thinking of starting with Garageband

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i'm making a midi player in python. now working on making a sequencer for it. midi in and out seems to work nicely. using threads so i can playback multiple midi files at the same time. the idea is to move this to a rpi and turn it into a portable drum machine/sequencer that doesn't cost $3k. small steps etc.

>>101477495
he's closer to being a hot girl than making riddim

>>101476904

>>101477495
why is bro so cute wtf

>>101480503
off topic
>>>/g/iemg

digitalslop will never be real music.
if it doesn't require skill of a real instrument it isn't real music.

>>101480534
Sorry. I didn't know there was a separate general for that.

>>101480544
cope, a computer will do anything you tell it to, just need good inputs to get good output
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPoeNZZ6H4s

>>101479965
He was 15 when he recorded that

how do I make my stunning voice sound even better?
https://voca.ro/1nOOzNWJM0n8

>>101481849
I have another to show my incredible range
https://voca.ro/1ooI1OCJIf2K

>>101481658
it is truly tragic that he went normie mode with his hair...

>>101480544
>if it doesn't require skill of a real instrument it isn't real music
A capella bros how do we cope

>>101480634
is his game actually out? I remember the video being cool but the game clip looked so uninspired lol

>>101480544
This, just get good at a real instrument

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>>101477597
>Garageband
Groovin in G on YouTube has really good tutorials for Renoise (and sometimes Logic, but mainly Renoise)

>>101480544
> real instrument
what does the schizophrenic mean by this?

why do you retards reply to obvious bait

>>101480544
How could you say something so controversial yet so brave?

Can you guess the artist?
https://voca.ro/1evPhmbOzCBk

>>101483642
You

KORG bros -- Collection 5 is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYu-d1_N_tw
>ARP 2600
>electric piano
>organ
Kind of disappointed with this update t b h

>>101484677
ska mentioned pog
but yeah otherwise that seems pretty lackluster

>>101477781
I would unironically use this. Is the source available anywhere? Also would be handy if it could play files locally without a contrived fake midi device setup, for example piping to fluidsynth

https://vocaroo.com/1omworikojk1

fof

>>101484664
No. I’ll give you a hint. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BpeVc0rG5v4

>>101486131
I know, Josh. It's time to quit this tta posting nonsense and start buying ads instead.

Is all good music detuned saws

>>101486346
God I wish I was him

>>101484785
>I would unironically use this.
thx anon
>Is the source available anywhere?
no. i made this from scratch using a library called mido. i need a better user interface so i can display the midi data, instruments etc. not sure if i should keep it in the terminal (using curses or something) or move it to a windowed tool.
>? Also would be handy if it could play files locally without a contrived fake midi device setup, for example piping to fluidsynth
yeah. that'd be nice. i've been looking into it today so i can trigger samples from ram without virtual devices. a few solutions are incredibly bloated but might work (something like a soundfont would be ideal). another issue with the virtual midi is latency (especially on windows). pressing a key on midi keyboard to when it arrives on midi out on whatever channel is like waiting for a bus to arrive vs. real thing.

>>101486362
unironically yes
also ironically yes
>>101486131
>>101486346
>>101486397
kek

>>101486362
>Is all good music detuned saws
no. all good music is just sinus waves.

bumpo

why has dmp fallen off a cliff all of a sudden?

>>101488039
I had a really busy week at work. :)

>>101482967
many people can play instruments more or less, doesn't turn them into producers. recording instruments can be even more difficult than vocals. especially guitar is overrated as fuck, even electric guitar is cheesy when used outside of rock music.

gusic?

rock, country, jazz, blues, things like that might need real instruments, but for example carly rae jepsen - call me maybe uses string synths, not real violins, in modern pop music or EDM it might be questionable if you can even tell the difference unless it's using an old sample which you wouldn't make lo-fi on purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RayjiChQU_8

>>101489396
A MIDI keyboard with a modwheel is a real instrument. Using it to input quantized piano roll shit and then going back and "fixing" all your mistakes in post isn't a real instrument, just like how sampling someone else isn't an instrument.

Laptop is instrument

>>101489428
that's a strawman argument, any competent producer knows about not snapping timing and pitch to a grid, it's relatively niche at this point to use harsh autotune as a deliberate effect

>>101489457
If you're altering the sound after you play it, that's not a real instrument.

>>101489532
you're in the digital music production thread, you could alter it to hell and back and it will be valid if the result sounds fine

>>101489548
It's not real music unless you can play it in real time on a kazoo.

>In an interview with Rolling Stone, frontman Olly Alexander said: "When we recorded [the song], no one felt good about it. It sounds lame! And we could never fix it. We shelved it for awhile. When we came back to it, we just took a different approach: 'Let's try to make it an Eighties dance-pop track.' And we just started out with that, cut it all up, arranged it. Used that balearic flute vibe, like a bird in the forest." Synth player Mikey Goldsworthy revealed that the backing track "[is] actually Olly's voice sampled and fucked up."
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=_3M9w7WwyXU

>>101489580
lame song after the "fix" innit

>>101489609
turn up the volume the flute sound is larger than life

>>101489643
mate this is the most boring track ive listened to all month. flatter than my primary school crush

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>>101489674
lol k

>>101489695
>its popular therefore its good
you must be 18 to post here

>>101489707
literally your audio isn't doing it justice that's why you listen to shit like dubstep that people moved on from 15 years ago

there are a few exceptions like dance monkey and lovin on me that are kinda annoying but most popular songs are at least listenable

>>101489719
>literally
post age
>dubstep
prefer getting my ears raped to falling asleep to a gay man singing kek
>>101489736
>listenable
strive for more

>>101489748
kys

How far /dmp/ has fallen

>>101489767
you dunning-kruger wannabe producers are ngmi with your muh real instruments/analog boomershit and dubstep/DNB type genres that are irrelevant outside of the UK

>>101489782
>muh real instruments/analog boomershit
use both
eurotrash has its fingers in burgerland but youre right its far from the norm

The spontaneity that arises out of using any instrument is crucial but you're mental to not record it and edit it.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FVdjZYfDuLE
now this is boring to anyone under 30

>>101489757
you want your music to sound like that?

>>101489864
not exactly but the flute/horn type sound is the type of thing that can make you set for life like the lead synth in darude sandstorm or avicii levels

shakira - whenever, wherever was a huge hit and it has an epic flute + epic vocals
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=fFW91xwQFXk

>>101489850
I'm not saying there's anything inherently wrong with producing music the easy way, although the past decade of music does strongly point to the conclusion that an over-reliance on machines removes much of the spark. I'm just saying the joy of music is in performance.

>>101489881
you dont mean that little blip 30 seconds in do you? please say no
>>101489860
makes me reminisce but thats it

>>101489924
the sound from 0 to 15 seconds in

>>101489944
i dont think that sound is interesting even taking into account the year it was released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3bq2E9-OI

BARELY sounds like a synth flute even

>>101489966
i doubt you have adequate audio/hearing to recognize the specialness of the sound. you're coping hard if you think they got 300+ million views with dumb luck. most songs with 300+ million views sound great even if they're not in your favorite genre.

>>101489985
i thought it was like a horn but they called it a flute >>101489580

>>101489992
>dumb luck
pandering to the lowest common denominator. im just not impressed is all

>>101489919
You must be adept at digital production. "Spark" is subjective but I agree the true thrill comes from showing others or performing.

>>101489992
>specialness
If it were special the speakers used wouldn't matter desu

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>>101472219
Why isn't Cubase more popular considering they invented the VST, make their own hardware, their daws are used for film scoring, and can do pretty much everything pro-tools can do?

>>101490019
i'm not interested in weird niche music that takes mental gymnastics to appreciate. the rhythm and harmony should come naturally.

>>101490050
speaking from my own experience with logitech speakers and a razer gaming headset, it makes all the difference, i was super into drum n bass and dubstep back then. we didn't even have the harman target for headphones.

i even sort of liked infected mushroom and imogen heap since it wasn't as easy to discover music on torrent sites and such

>>101490086
Infected Mushroom has some nice tracks that sound really good in bass heavy headphones or speakers. They also produce their music in Cubase.

>>101490104
i don't think they played a lot of real instruments tho, maybe keyboard/synth. the mexican guitar in vicious delicious is probably a sample/recording but they put a lot of emphasis on digital production like with the gatekeeper and wider plugins.

>>101490066
ill try it if the learning curve is comparable to ableton or around there. can't be more complicated than modular
>>101490078
>logitech speakers and a razer gaming headset
i have 6 inch monitors but im sure another anon has larger. i dont think you need a triple digit iq to appreciate something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xx-JGp7J0c (entirely different genre i know)
be grateful that i am here to push you, young blood

what about fucking jai paul kek

>>101490146
>vicious delicious
meant becoming insane

at school there was like some community thing with no teachers allowed, where a couple of young guys with a macbook pro played lady gaga - just dance loud on the speakers in the pretty large dining hall. the lead synth instantly grabs your attention and you recognize that it's a special song. same thing with avicii levels.

but anon that was 15 years ago

>>101484677
I bought the Wavestate VST after months of dabbling with the demo. This one almost made me go hardware, but $700 for that or $100 for software HMMMMMMMM WHICH ONE. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. The Opsix and Modwave are like reading runes to me though, I think I need to learn a couple simpler classics first.

>>101490104
>>101490146
Don't remember which song but they talked about not being good at guitar so they played and sampled each note individually and assembled the take in the DAW.
Also it might not have been them lol I'm not confident in this memory.

>>101490477
people like to hate on more recent music though. not sure about more recent examples, charli xcx - 360 doesn't have the same hype energy but kinda similar sound design. tyga - fantastic is in a different genre but has thicc bass and a clean pitchy flute.

https://youtu.be/IwLSrNu1ppI

>>101490535
aww
>Vicious Delicious, considered by some as their most diverse musical effort up until that point, was released in 2007. The album includes "Becoming Insane"—a Spanish-guitar-led track containing Spanish lyrics—a collaboration with Gil Cerezo of the Mexican band Kinky, and the hip hop-influenced "Artillery" featuring rappers Swollen Members. The overall album features more guest vocalists than previous albums, as well as live guitars and drums.[15]
would've been epic to btfo >>101480544

https://youtu.be/e-U1lj57pv8

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https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ra4KxntPJlo

>>101492019
>>101492066
>https://x.com/draikjack/status/1810652672556720629?s=46&t=ySQVUOuIDomD_38LYdy4FQ
This shit needs to be hidden under the NSFL tag

>you can now upload your own samples to Splice to get loop recommendations
https://youtu.be/IStBf9ao9Ds

Has anyone here tried it? Is it good enough to be useful?

>>101489580
generic track

>>101489695
> but.. muh sales
changes nothing. public will buy any goytrance.

>>101489719
>>101489757
> seething this hard
have you considered coping??

>>101492019
>>101492066
>>101492202
this is fucking awful.

>>101489580
And it still sounds lame and extremely gay. Are you gay?

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>>101492771
>>101492796
>>101492929
>doesn't like music
>wants to produce music

>>101489532
almost every radio rock album after the mid 90s has altered time to fix tempo drift

Would using my interface with headphones give me better quality than just Plugging my headphones into my Mac?

>>101493268
it depends on the output impedance. it should be a dedicated headphone jack and not just a line out.

>>101493361
I don't know what this means so I'll Google how to do this and see what works thx

>>101492472
It's good enough for commercial work like tv or youtube or etc. If you're using it to make music, it sucks.

>>101494049
Are you talking specifically about the AI suggestion thing or about Splice in general?

>>101493134
> doesn't know who he's replying to
> thinks his favourite goyslop is a benchmark
i'm sorry, dumb cunt. nobody is interested in your trash. this is not /mu/ where we have to tolerate the poor tastes of literal sex offenders and children.

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Is there anything simple like Logic's drum synths to make quick kick, snare, hihat drums, etc and edit parameters to change the sound of it? Nothing too hardcore with a billion knobs and every eq fx, just nice and tidy.

>>101494161
Both. Using AI to make music kind of defeats the purpose of making music as music is supposed to come from your brain. If you just need a quick jingle or some background music for a vid, it's okay.

>>101494376
ableton m4l drum devices

>>101494376
Edit: Anything without built-in drum step sequencers and all that bs. Everything drum synth that comes up in search is steps away from becoming it's own daw.

>>101494459
i find sequencers inside drum machine plugins are usually terrible and not worth using. just set them to a midi channel and sequence with your daw is just far less tedious. built in sequencers usually suck.

>>101494395
>>>/mu/122850017

How do I improve my melody writing, I suck at it big time and don't know much about it neither
https://vocaroo.com/1lDIJtx6e6oB

>>101494802
write more melodies

>>101494940
sounds about rite

>>101494968
It's wrong. The correct answer is to listen to more melodies and recall them in your head at a later time to internalize them.

>>101494395
AI is the ultimate sample creator, most of them have lots of foley trained into them as well.

>>101494395
>>101495339
This isn't generative AI. It only suggests samples from their library that it thinks work well with the audio you give it.

>>101490402
>. the lead synth instantly grabs your attention
You mean playboi carti long time??
Great sound :3

>>101480544
What if the skill is embedded in a sample, like, say, the amen break?

>>101488295
However, if you're able to play well enough to be proficient in articulations, you'll know better what to aim than any piano roll only instrumentalist.

>>101494376
>>101494459
Oblivion Hex Drum

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can i plug this into my interface if i get a jack->xlr cable? it's a really decent microphone after eq and my pc just has too much noise

>>101496513
no

>>101496780
why

>>101496799
find out yourself

>>101496837
the only difference between xlr and jack that i know of is that xlr is always balanced

>>101496780
yes, faggot.
>>101496882
true, but for stuff like that pic you need an unbalanced to balanced conversion adapter/cable.

>>101494395
philosophical moralfagging nonsense

>>101496882
it's going to be quiet as fuck without an amp to boost it. i have that mic and it's made for mic in. its a fucking $6. save up whatever shitty money you make for a real mic that already sends a balanced input

>>101480544
this
literally aislop before aislop was a thing

hardstyle producers are mostly illiterate in terms of music theory and such, they just had a technological edge production technique wise in the early days of EDM compared to traditional acoustic style music. they were delivering cringe after cringe and i eventually gave up on it altogether when mixcloud nerfed its free tier.

they put in a harder kick for literally like 1 second at 3:02 which is like a slap in the face to people who would like to hear more of that particular sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGDolE35XHA

in a recent youtube tutorial for how to make hardstyle the guy said to just place random notes and to not put much time and effort into it but the example track he made didn't even sound good. hardstyle is generally dated, it probably peaked in the zyzz fitness fad era, then recently jumped the shark with having red bull sportspeople doing stunts during their show.

I redownloaded spitire labs for reasons and WOW the interface is so shit what even

I'm not even mad about the redesign around advertising their other products, it's the lack of labeling (for AesThEtiC (that they ruined with the shitty recolour and decade late artstyle)) and inability to drag parameters while playing what in the actual fuck dude

at least they sound good...

>>101480544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vxj4ghJHtY

>>101498614
>composes professionally for tv/film/vidya/etc
>didn't go to music school
>can't read music
No wonder modern music in media is so shit.

>>101498480
spitfire turned to cringe after they got rid of that guy just because on his personal account he said he's against troons going to female bathrooms

>>101498689
and while i fully disagree with that, that's a stupid as fuck reason to fire somebody and sounds like a convenient excuse to publicly shift blame while making an obviously profitable move.
LITERALLY nobody is going to seek them out and attack the fucking company or present any risk for their profits what the fuck.

Calculated.

god i'm so hungry.... that's so gross...

>>101498782
>an obviously profitable move
What move?

>>101498794
redesign

I realize now after rereading that that there was no logic in motivation there, please excuse it.
Real schizo hours rn and i'm trying to wrap my head around stealing this seemingly random minor 9 in a Deru piece

>>101472219
Stupid whore

Best sample libraries I can download for synthetic orchestra right now? Don't care if it's styled after Zimmerslop or classical instrumentation, I wanna try it out.

Singer looking for the best AI instrumental extractors. Theres some mid tier extractors that can get the job sorta done and then theres some good shit that I have to pay for. I just want some good shit that I don't have to pay for.

>>101498614
this is kind of a waste, anyone that tries to do the orchestra stuff should look at vids of people that actually do mockups

>>101500214
i'm not trying to larp as an orchestra i just want the most rudimentary stuff so that it will sound like a song that you can listen intently to and do numbers on the charts instead of being just background filler music like runescape midi tracks or whatever. like the string synths in carly rae jepsen call me maybe or any instrumental in a normal song.

>>101489748
>prefer getting my ears raped
Do you perchance like this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ev3vENli7wQ

>>101500873
you can't just say perchance you dumm slut

nta but that's like top a top 10 autechre track gtfo out of here pleb

>>101472219
I've been saying this shit forever and nobody listens.
Unless you are a programmer you have no business making music with a computer.

>>101500906
based and truth pilled

>>101500906
you're like the weird mentally ill guy on the street preaching about the second coming of christ and how we're all gonna be really sorry next week (this time for really)

>>101483642
no, because digital slop all sounds the same.

>>101500906
yes i have programming and other skills and experience and i learn new things very easily but a lot of those people who want to get into music don't have much of anything and aren't going to make it let's be real

When the thread gets like this I envision a little kid who's known for bullying screeching and pouting about how nobody wants to play with him until everybody goes to play on a different side of the playground and he just sits there blabbering to himself

>>101500917
You were sold the lie that you could make music with a program. Sure you can make a computer in minecraft, will it be useful, no?

>>101500985
Most if not all generals have that kind of squatter

>>101477597
https://www.dogsonacid.com/forums/the-grid/

>>101500985
level 5 imagination fr

>>101500985
there are countless failing wannabe producers who barely get any streams or who make tutorials instead of music
like these cutesy ADHD friendly tutorials make you feel warm and fuzzy inside but in reality people don't care about your feelings
you're going to wake up one day realizing that you're getting too old for this shit and you're still broke as hell
this guy's style is ultra faggy and he's never going to make high quality music
https://www.youtube.com/@synthet7/videos

seed to stage and omri cohen are the only two youtube guys i watch desu oh and virtual riot now that hes doing them

>>101501095
>seed to stage
I really liked his video on Drift. Good inspiration and resources for starting to make my own patches with it.
Grooving in G is another good tuber, but he focuses mainly on Renoise and some Logic.

>>101490066
Any good tutorial videos to get my feet wet?

>>101500902
So? It’s top 10 for a reason. And it absolutely murders your ears.

>>101500906
Do you even use Max? I bet not.

>>101501297
You got me

pumb

Reminder: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WcW7eRiU3xc

Are there any good youtube channel or texts for learning mixing and mastering? I feel like I'm really cucking myself for not knowing. The extent of my mixing is just changing the volume to sound decent

>never ever get recommend YouTube videos about hardstyle and adjacent genres
>genre gets mentioned here >>101498069
>have at least 4 videos about it in the home page
What a strange coincidence...
Well, at least it's replacing all the owning the libs videos that came after I watched some clips of the Trump shooting.

>>101504048
This guy is awesome https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8zZeZFs5KLQ
Lots of bad actors out there trying to push their agenda/propaganda. I always knew that Jack guy was a faggot.

>>101486423
That would be a fun project. I have been working on something kind-of similar using Python and Qt (PySide6) mostly using out of the box QWidgets. Pretty performant for Python, too, as most of the heavy GUI lifting is happening in the main thread with a C++ event loop. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but being able to have real (almost) multithreaded python because of a C++ backend you don't even interact with is breddy nice.

>>101472219
100% the consoomer Just imagine being so airheaded that she defends these retarded ideas.
"Kids should learn an instrument"
>"bbbbut what if i learn to auto tune on my macbook!? isnt that an instrument?"
She just sucks ass. All her arguments are so bad.
>"Hes old aka wrong! hihi"
whats wrong with her?
This is just the Apple crush ad incarnate.

>>101504227
You saw the thumbnail and expected any less? Really?

>>101504227
>>101505217
expecting an amateur to play all the instruments, sing and record and vocals, and produce the track himself is insane. it's like /dpt/ jerking off about programming in assembly. you'd get a higher fidelity sound with synths or even samples (but instrumentfags tend to hate on samples too) and you can edit the expressions to be mathematically perfect or consistent with whatever artistic idea you have instead of having to do it live in one take. you don't even have to constrain yourself to traditional boomer instruments, you can use whatever sounds pleasing to the ear. even classical composers adopted new instruments as they became available and did some cutting edge stuff like combining the harmonics of multiple instruments to make a new "virtual" instrument.

>>101500302
you are a retard that doesn't make any music

>>101506153
neither do you, at least not any music that has appeal to normal people

most people either have horrid taste (see: the creative decisions that led to katy perry - woman's world) or technical incompetence. hence why you feel justified to complain about muble rap or whatever. give me the proper tools and learning resources and i'll make some decent stuff, i'm easily more intelligent and talented at many things than the average person.

>>101503420
use compression, saturation, lots of EQuing, sidechaing helps, and keep track of your sounds dbs. its a lot of carving

>>101498668
that guy made the top gear theme

>>101507549
specifically, this version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwX-KS1816c

>>101505472
"Make me [genre] music in style of [artist/band/era] , make it imperfect and more human" - Best musician on earth

>>101507781
AI is a shitty meme at least in its current state without a generational leap in technology. openAI employees claiming AGI within 3-5 years are like the new NFT bros. it's mental gymnastics to equate music production in a DAW to AI slop, it's just the modern equivalent of using synths and drum machines, the average listener isn't going to care if the instruments were played manually depending on the genre.

>>101507995
https://voca.ro/14S7KUh6yI66

>>101506269
Bless up anon
Thanks for the advice

>>101506225
at least i know how to use a rompler, faggot

praying in chris' cathedral, hope it's the guitar plate or hall today

>>101507549
>>101507648
Thanks for providing evidence to back me up, bro.

>>101510463
>not liking early 2000's top gear
that's a bit cringe m8

>>101504227
Thank you for your contribution about digital music production.

>>101510486
I'm just talking about the music. You can't let nostalgia and the associated media distort your perception of a piece of music.

>>101510672
it's a pretty good remix of jessica

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>>101504207
>That would be a fun project.
yea. it's a goal i am working toward. today i'll be adding ability to load and play samples (if i have the time).
>Qt (PySide6) mostly using out of the box QWidgets
will look into it. considering its mostly text output (at the moment) i could probably get away with using an interface like the sp1200 has.

>>101510691
Stacy's mom has got it going on
Singing doowa diddy diddy dum diddy doo

https://youtu.be/C0NjLukT99w
/dmp/bros what do we think about this controller?

>>101507549
>>101507648
that's cool although the electric guitar is real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT7garEUTQs

>>101511375
well yeah, it doesn't cost much to hire a guitarist (or pick one up to play yourself). Compare that to hiring a full orchestra - most TV shows don't have that kind of budget, or the time to pull it off.

>>101511209
Fuck, they butchered my boy Schumann. Sounds like absolute shit.
How dare they desecrate this masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z82w0l6kwE

>>101511209
very clever/10. a very subtle and sensitive pitch modulator.

>>101511209
i don't like it at all it's like a crude AI imitation with how it jumps between notes with the keys. the timbre sounds like like a literal toy

>>101512599
>the timbre sounds like like a literal toy
Isn't the timbre from the virtual instrument he used?

it's here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdoks01pzRk

>>101513344
yeah. sounds like it to me. reminds me of violin from mellotron keyboard.

>>101513511
> be this guy
> wakes up
> fuck breakfast.
> *opens up his computer*
> starts coding yet another vst plugin
> makes video
> goes to sleep
> repeat
giga chad

>>101477597
You can Jungle anywhere with a grid with the 1989-1999 DnB/Jungle/Rave sample pack. Even in a 8bit chiptune sequencer like FamiTracker.

>>101477597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv-u8hwjHw4

>>101513807
>FamiTracker.
MilkyTracker would be the better choice here, but sure, I guess. I've never heard good sounding DPCM samples on an NES.

>Amigo Sampler
>the 300gb torrent of 90s sample cd's from Internet Archive
>Chadmaxxed Thinkpad x230 or W520
>DAW + stock plugins

Let me guess, you need more?

>>101515722
airwindows consildated, tal chorus

>>101515722
I need less
>Furnace tracker (OTTO soundchip)
>just one sample CD
Simple as.
I'm not a bad enough dude to go with Protracker, but I wish I was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjkaURUeJwE

>>101515722
>300 gb or low quality unorganized slop
I seriously still don’t get this. Especially when every time dnb or jungle comes up and everybody tells you to download jungle warfare as if it’s not practically spamming premade drum loops.
Idc if sacrilege

I recall something about using kontakt to read through patches as if it were loading a CD?
Those spectrasonics patches are obviously great but scrolling through them is such a headache...

>>101515991
some of the sample cds they tell you to download don't even have the copyrighted breaks on them like apache, jb shit, etc. lol

Are there any free trackers which have the modern style usability of either Renoise or Polyend Tracker? I tried making some jungle with Milkytracker, but the too oldskool way of handling (longer) samples filtered me among other things.

>>101472219
is this thread anti-beato for some reason

>>101516123
The only people who take beato seriously are brain dead boomers with worthless opinions.
He’s not *always* wrong within his niche but his opinions on music as a whole are generally ridiculous

>>101516074
Not as robust as Renoise, but Furnace might be close to Polyend Tracker (I've never used Polyend's Tracker so I don't know for sure).

>>101516243
what's ridiculous about his opinions other than being biased towards acoustic over electronic (as you'd expect for his generation)

>>101516443
I haven't indulged in one of his videos in a long ass time but skimmed through fantano's response to one of his latest videos to refresh my memory-

It's generally just rockists opinions.
A lot of what he and doomers/cretins in mew will point to is stuff about technology positing stuff that boils down to
>if it's harder to do it's better
>technology "prevents" people from going above and beyond with sounds (e.g all rock is awful now because of amp sims/drum vsts (completely ignoring people who AREN'T lazy while makiig amazing music with that technology)
>survivorship bias (i.e only acknowledging good music of the past and pointing to bad music today and concluding all music now is bad or that there's less good music now than then).

We could go into a longer discussion about rockism and that he touches on occasionally with like, autotune, drum machines or electronic music/hip-hop at large eschewing elements that are considered traditional music, but that's a whole other conversation that always just results in being lambasted by trolls so you know

no airwindows phaser....curious...

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>2024
>another year and STILL no fanart of famous synthesizers as anime girls

https://audioz.download/tutorials/books/259127-download_decentralized-music-exploring-blockchain-for-artistic-research.html
Bruh

Why my mix sounds muddier when I mono it compared to reference tracks, I like how it sounds in stereo but if I mono it it sounds meh. Reference tracks sound good in mono too

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>>101516899
>ai slop

i lost after 30 seconds this whore is insufferable

>>101517892
because your stereo field is wacky bruh wym

>>101516123
His rant is ultra cinge. He literally sounds like the stereotypical rock boomer he is who can't consider that other people would like different music than him. This in and of itself shows he's really narrow minded. Also he literally pulled up google trends for the word music as an argument lmao.
He's a midwit trying to sound way smarter than he is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh4ErO-i5o
mehh
i don't enjoy listening to this music
it's just some juvenile humor

>>101516123
It's just one autistic dude that always forgets his meds and spergs out about anything different on the dmp threads.

>>101519026
cope boomer

>>101518756
How do I fix this

even people who specialize in playing an instrument get roasted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cbh1BY-ZmU
it's this chick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuA9l77ODbs
you would have to target specific genres in rock or hiphop for the lo-fi sound of an amateurish recording to even be acceptable
in pop or EDM where a hit could be worth millions, it's concievable to take the time and edit the expressions in a DAW instead of relying on a recording of a live take, you could reuse a lot of it within the same song with max martin style songwriting so you're not spending years just hardcoding one song second by second

>>101519305
Anything you do, no matter what, when, or in what field, won't be universally liked by everyone.
You will always have people disagreeing and talking shit.
Your point is complete nonsense.

>>101519423
my point is that people who shill instruments and shit on digital production even though this is the digital music production thread are full of shit. not everyone can be jacob collier and he still collabs with other musicians instead of playing all the instruments himself.

>>101519583
>are full of shit
Why?

>>101519631
it's not feasible for a single hobbyist to make a studio quality song from scratch with traditional boomer methods. utterly unrealistic and delusional expectations. avicii couldn't even play the piano when he started, it's not necessary.

>>101519657
A lot of people do. And you don't need to go full boomer. You can have some sort of balance and incorporate some traditional practices with some modern ones, for a workflow that works well for you. There are effectively infinite combinations of workflows. You don't have to be black and white and either go full digital or full acoustic.

>Avicii
Is he supposed to be the benchmark for a great artist? He was never good at anything other than coming up with good melodies. The fact that you're using him as an example to say "if it's hard for him it's hard for everyone else" shows once again that you're trolling.

>>101519798
>A lot of people do.
not really lol

Hey, I've never been in these threads, so my case might be drastically different from what these threads are even about.
I've had an idea of combining parts of (for now) 3 tracks in a specific order – kind of a mashup. Practically, all I need is a tool that lets me cut the songs and combine them – I don't think I need to even change their speed or pitch, it's really basic. I'm not even sure how much I'm interested in this whole ""music-making"" kind of thing, I just have this simple idea I've been sitting on for who knows how many weeks.
Any suggestions?

>>101520812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F18M_QjfUuw

>>101514061
>I've never heard good sounding DPCM samples on an NES.
DPCM is like 4:1 reduction of a given sample. no matter what sample rate you use it'll never sound as good as a proper PCM DAC.

>>101520812
>my case might be drastically different from what these threads are even about.
these threads are mostly mentally ill samefaggotry

youtube music auto-recommended this in my new releases mix, i don't mind the production, the genre/style seems kinda dated though, most of his releases have <100k views on youtube
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=sqNcrYsjLU8
i had listened to this, was probably auto recommended to me previously
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=lW9ep22YmlM
most of you clowns couldn't get a clean production like this

>>101516538
no, nigger, I don't even agree with everything beato says but at least I'm not dishonest about his points

he's not saying that that le drum machine killed music, he's saying that people use artificial shit for stuff that had natural sounds and work put into it, because it's simply easier and cheaper to do, you don't need anyone skilled to just get a sample and put it on some grid. it's about music being diluted to cheap shit made to sell that is just going to be forgotten in a few weeks or months after the next cheap shit arrives. it's funny how retards like fantano are so hard against AI doing this but he doesn't think that humans are doing the exact same thing already, it's only AI that is le big villain even though it's "just mindless matrix calculations"

In my opinion music just isn't successful by itself, it needs to accompany/give life to something else for it to shine, this is why lyrics are always about retarded normalfag things and there are so many other things surrounding music that has nothing to do with music but makes it insanely popular. this is why putting hard work into the music itself isn't a guarantee of anything, and if you just want to make money then you'll just do what's most efficient

>>101523266
there are other factors like sex appeal and memes but the production quality of commercial music is generally on point
amateur producers complaints are cope and seethe when if they were to actually have studio quality production and decent songwriting and sound design they would probably be able to find some degree of success

>>101523129
>clean
there's nothing clean about it. you can hear the enormous amounts of compression and limiting. is this bait?

>>101523266
>In my opinion music just isn't successful by itself, it needs to accompany/give life to something else for it to shine,
this is dangerously accurate.

>>101523491
>amateur producers complaints are cope and seethe when if they were to actually have studio quality production
they do have it. it's 2024. gear is not that expensive compared to 30+ years ago. you get a lot more for your dollar. the problem is shit song writing abilities. they could have all the gear in the world and they still can't write shit. go to r/ synthesizers on reddit some time. many people there have gear worth a fortune but couldn't write a song anyone would find memorable. they cope like this:
> it's fun to collect synths. you don't have to make music with them

>>101525103
it shits on any vocaroo i've ever seen posted here lmao

>>101525156
never happened, /mu/ tourist.

>>101525166
the compression or whatever you're complaining about is intentional, it's an atmospheric and earpleasing sound like what the airwindows guy is aiming for with most of his plugins

>>101525183
>about is intentional
yes. all compression is intentional.
>atmospheric
it's so unnatural sounding that using the word atmospheric is highly inappropriate and offensive to anybody with an iq higher than a muddy puddle.

>>101525103
stop replying to the obvious shitposter

>>101525150
with synths you can get a low noise floor etc but most people don't know how to get the most of them in sound design and effects in addition to songwriting. and some anons ITT are obsessed with playing acoustic guitar, drums, wind/string instruments, and record vocals, the recordings will be flawed in the first place and then their mix won't be done right because they don't have high end audio or listening abilities

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>>101525305
>>101525343
92+95M streams for this song on youtube alone
get shrekt

>>101525397
It's this popular because it's one of the TikTok meme songs that people use for edits and whatnot.

>>101525623
>tiktok bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HivpeO-PlnI

>>101525734
>>tiktok bad
You can't read

>>101526081
>implying implications
the production sounds fine to me for that genre
maybe if anons have a bass heavy setup it sounds muddy to them or whatever
some anons were completely insane complaining about bob marley - concrete jungle sounding too bassy as if there's much else to care about than the bass in a bob marley song, none of the youtube comments were complaining
i don't listen to bob marley but anons went out of their way to listen to it but with the bass turned down

>>101525397
> breaking news: people listen to garbage

>>101525734
>>tiktok bad
yes. that's right.

>>101526136
>maybe if anons have a bass heavy setup it sounds muddy to them or whatever
you can filter the bass out completely with this trash and you can still hear the heavy amounts of compression.
>some anons were completely insane complaining about bob marley
never happened.

>>101526201
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/98984477/#98985012
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/98984477/#98985206
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/98984477/#98994425
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/98984477/#98994638

bonus meme reference, lol
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100528117/#100544806

>>101526136
Not reading. Kys

>>101526274
> literally schizophrenia
> has no idea how compression works
please kill yourself as soon as possible, thanks. you're far too stupid to live.

>>101526306
some people want a thicc sound like
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=2zToEPpFEN8

if your audio is set up properly you should appreciate the production of pretty much any mainstream song, even katy perry - woman's world, while the songwriting is dogshit the sonic qualities aren't bad

>With its pulsating synths and steamroller chorus, “Woman’s World” is clearly modeled on Lady Gaga’s 2020 single “Stupid Love,” a brazen return to form that successfully launched Gaga into the second act of her career. There seems to have been a miscalculation, though: “Stupid Love” worked not because of its sound but because it took the core elements of Gaga’s music—slightly nonsensical lyrics, acid-trip concept, a general struggle with vowels—and turned them up to 11. It’s mystifying why Perry would have chosen to mount her comeback with a vaguely political song—you just get the sense that she just doesn’t really like or care about this stuff.
stupid love sounds freaking dope though
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=R5RRHt-sSX8

ok there's compression but it's nitpicking, like in any engineering task you have to weigh pros and cons to get a fuller epic sound
this >>101525734 epic performance on the electric violin better shows what the average listener is hearing, it's a beautiful composition
it's not ruined like imagine dragons - radioactive
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=R_BO8C05XLA

also when listening to "royalty" i'm focusing on the heavily saturated subbass which is quite satisfying. the other sounds besides the vocals and violin are of lesser importance and contribute to like a cinematic epic sound like i'm surrounded by an orchestra or something. not sure if your monitors are rendering the subbass properly.

>>101490526
I got the Modwave and it's one fine machine.

the first link (just a light) is dope too >>101523129
it has less compression and a really clean atmospheric reverb
dope drumstep subbass sound
you have to listen to the end to get the climax

this was auto suggested, it's a less intense mainstream song but has kind of a similar idea with thicc subbass and atmospheric reverb
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oSHzUD-uqKY

Guys, I think he might actually be serious.

>>101527708
seethe
i have a good ear for songs that get hundreds of millions of streams while you struggle to get 1k streams

>>101527708
he's been serious about actively shitting up the thread for months now. i hate how every thread i like on 4chan gets ruined by one schizo eventually

>>101527727
>i have a good ear for songs that get hundreds of millions of streams
you're good at picking out things that have big numbers next to them and have reached critical success already? cool lulz

uhhh good job lulz

>>101527796
dead general yeah

>>101527796
/iemg/ has adopted a lot of my learnings, i'm doing this for myself but you're going to be grateful for learning with me

>>101527813
i'm listening with my ears

it's funny how people can be so grumpy and hate on most every mainstream song. principalskinnermeme.png

>>101527827
trip or name up so everyone can hide your inane ramblings

>>101516243
He's 100% right about swing
>>101516538
I don't think that summarizes any of what he says
>>101523491
> the production quality of commercial music is generally on point
Yes, it's the songwriting that is shit
>>101525345
>most people don't know how to get the most of them in sound design and effects in addition to songwriting
There's lot of great sound designer packs available, the main problem as I said above is songwriting, which Beato constantly addresses. Why do you think he does all that music analysis and interviews asking people how they wrote this or that?
>>101523129
soulless

if you take issue with compression in particular
if you think most mainstream music is trash
then your DAC/amp might be inadequate
realtek motherboard audio is ridiculously bad, very unsatisfying to listen to
even when i switched from my old high end DAC to my new top tier DAC it took a bit of getting used to because i was now getting the full dynamic range (maybe 0.1db compression when measured at an extreme volume, essentially zero compression at normal volume) so at first it was difficult to dial in my listening volume because some parts i would feel that they were too peaky and some parts were too quiet

>Ableton Live 12
>Master channel has been renamed to Main
What in the fuck?

>>101530131
Have you been living under a rock? Master/slave architecture's name has also been cancelled.

>>101530300
I didn't realize dat ze Germanz behind Ableton took ze pill.

Concept:
notch Spread filter but you can specify the target spread!!!!

I. Need. Polyphonic. Notch
I refuse to set this up in phase plant or snapheap just for noise fx :|

actually probably should....

question about midi
if i get button format synth and i slap a random midi keyboard into the midi input, does it just werks?

>>101530866
Yes. MIDI is fairly standard, certain channels are assigned to certain things. What you want to watch out for is what your synth can actually respond to, there's a lot of cheap toy stuff that's still only monophonic.

>Best tortellini and ravioli
>Gross, I don't eat-a mac and cheese
>They'll be calling me, calling me
>They'll be calling me Boyardee

It's sleek, it's tiny and sturdy, I love my EN16 so much, guys.

What free reverbs do you use? Any reverb trick in general you can share?

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>>101472219
i was gifted an old alesis midi keyboard the other day i dont know shit about midi keyboards what programs do i need to get started?

>>101532677
Pirate pianoteq, and you're done.

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>>101530300
Next they're not going to let me kill child processes anymore

>>101515991
Oh no, so much different from sampling vinyl. Oh wait, not it isn't. If you're making your own samples and only using those, it's not really sampling you're just in a band lil sis

Is there anything good in the world of teaching yourself piano? I kind of want to use piano marvel because it looks pretty good and has a lot of songs in one place, but I'm a cheap cunt and I don't want to pay for shit.

>>101530896
monophonic sounds painful to deal with since a lot of the music theory stuff focuses on chords. what about even fancier keyboards that can sense intensity and le human expressions, is that even a thing, i haven't researched them but i can imagine that there are lots of technological limitations. MIDI 2.0 has only been around for a few years

>>101533728
Ultimately beyond velocity sensing and maybe aftertouch there isn't really much that's useful on a traditional piano. There have been some recent attempts to expand on expression but they're very much different instruments that just resemble keyboards and require very different playing techniques. The traditional way to expand piano is with foot pedals and toggle switches.

>>101533617
Don't use gimmicks. Practice basic scales, learn songs you already enjoy from youtube. Jam over the scales. Learn the chords. Never skip a day of practice, doesn't matter how long.

>>101533617
generally speaking, the good part is the piano playing

did you know this??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRj8JfLgktI

>>101533617
piano not only has arguably the most crossover to digital music production of any instrument, it also is one of the best methods for "understanding" music since it covers nearly all music pitches. like the other nig said, don't worry about the sea of information out there. just play what you like and learn basic concepts

>>101533617
ipad has some really good piano apps, but it only helps if you learn basic finger placement and movement from youtube tutorials which are always like the first 1-3 lessons that shows you how to move your fingers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANtPDhjjRsw
what are they even trying to say
seems like the shaggs are mostly just a meme
frank zappa supposedly liked them but redditors said he was trolling, he went on a talk show and used a bicycle as a musical instrument
they were one of kurt cobain's favorites probably because he didn't want to gatekeep music like it was okay to be self-taught
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shaggs

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=QXflk5OJlbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abohrcpi7WM

>>101535686
>>101535698
>>101536011
>what are they even trying to say
they're saying: go home, reddit. 4chan isn't your personal blog.

>>101532629
learn how to calculate and set predelay . bpm/120 is your half note length, then keep dividing it by 2 for smaller divisions. properly set predelay means the reverb and main sound won't be fighting each other and sounds more natural. most noticeable if you start with drums to hear what it's doing
https://anotherproducer.com/online-tools-for-musicians/delay-reverb-time-calculator/

>>101536393
>how to make your track feel robotic and lifeless 101

>>101532699
bles

>>101536393
>bpm/120 is your half note length
that's not even it bruh

New thread:
>>101537460
>>101537460
>>101537460
>>101537460

>>101537448
i flipped it, whoops