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Remember remember the vram memer

>>101584112
that doesn't rhyme

>>101584130
...and 8gb isn't good enough either!

>>101584143
Is the VRAM doesn't matter guy still around?
I haven't visited those threads for some time.

>>101584112
>>101584143
That's OK, the 8GB card just has to sacrifice the texture quality and/or resolution of the game.

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Just put together a new PC, but when I turn it on the motherboard lights are shifting from BOOT+VGA to CPU+DRAM, then all four, then repeat. GPU is currently not inserted.

Any ideas besides me being retarded?

>>101584192
he makes the threads

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reminder
no refunds

>>101584227
This is a true CPU holocaust.

>>101584211
Have you given it a couple minutes? Could just be memory training. If waiting 5 minutes doesn't work, then start checking the RAM sticks.

>>101584227
>can RMA at any time
>solved a year ago with no 6.2ghz boosts
solved problem

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pic related + a 24 bay hotswap server case, 3 lsi sas cards, a 10GBe card.
I'm thinking of getting 24 16TB drives from ebay because it works out the same price as 8 24TB drives, but I get much more storage and redundancy.

>>101584338
Why bother getting an aftermarket cooler when the Ryzen CPU you're getting comes with one?

>>101584338
>using ebay for USED hdd
>but buys new non-server hardware
????????????????
What is this backwards thinking? Get used hardware and buy new HDDs. Or better yet, buy all used.
This build is so stupid.

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>>101584112
New benchmark kino just dropped
Pic related is the norm

>>101584338
bait build

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>>101584227

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>>101584227
phew, for a second I thought the goyim would hold us responsible.

The only way to fix the PC industry is to swing an axe down the skull of each and every Intel fanboy.

>>101584482
Honestly dude I don't know how you haven't killed yourself yet.

Everyday you're on here, mass replying, posting fake screenshots, fake benchmarks, lying your ass off for at least 8 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Nobody takes you seriously, you need to get some sort of help from a professional.

All I can really feel for you is extreme pity at this point.

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what's the consensus on the 4080? I'm seeing some that are only $160 more than the 4070 ti super (what I might get), but after tax that's also $1000, which is pretty crazy
>just get AMD
NO

>>101584575
It has to be just a well programmed bot, there is no way "he" would keep doing this shit for multiple years.

>>101584580
Bought a 4080. I like it. Able to play at 1440p 144Hz easily.

>>101584580
overpriced dogshit that you won't do anything useful on
get a midrange GPU then kill yourself

>>101584251
Still going. Already tried with the sticks. From two to one, changing slots, etc.
I inserted the GPU to see if the lights would change at all, but looks the same. All my fans are spinning and the RGB is being obnoxious, so it seems like everything is receiving power.

>>101584580
Just look at >>101584482
Personally I couldn't justify ~$200 more for 17 fps increase. But the $200 jump from a 4070 to a 4070 ti super for a 30 fps increase and 4gb more vram was worth it to me.

>>101584580
At this point would it not be better for you to wait until CES for 5xxx?
Or are you afraid next gen will be even worse deal?
4080 even at $1000 is a bad joke.

I love retarded boomers that talk about storage here like it's 1995

No I'm not gonna to defrag my M2 granddad

>>101584211
Post parts. Also install a buzzer

>>101584436
>Get used hardware
Any recommendations? All I want is something low heat and low power, really. ECC would be nice but any DDR5 ECC setups will blow the bank relative to this.
The hdds are "new". The point is that even if there is something wrong with them, it means more storage for the same price in the short term, and also more redundancy. I don't see how that can be so much worse than my current setup anyway (with new 4TB drives I have had to replace 11 out of the 20 I have in the last 6 years).

>>101584211
Do you just have 1 stick of ram?

seeing the sheer retardation going on in this thread, I feel lucky having my AM5 system just boot right the fuck up first try

>>101584676
B650M Pro RS WiFi
Ryzen 5 7600
RTX 4060
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE
>install a buzzer
One will arrive tomorrow.
>>101584726
That was when I was trying to see if using just one stick would make a difference.

will lowering my oled's brightness increase its longevity

>>101584751
yes, but also, this is why OLED is fucking retarded, people brag about "DUDE IT GETS SO BRIGHT" but then need to lower the brightness JUST so that it doesn't burn in next month

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>>101584730
Help me God if I ever feel so desperate to seek help on 4chin.

>>101584751
On paper, yes. In actual practical terms? That depends on other factors as well.

Do I RMA Zotac 4070 super over noisy fan?
might be a shot bearing

>>101584766
Such as?

>>101584760
That's fine, I never run it on high brightness anyway.

>>101584765
>not getting advice from /med/
grim

>>101584749
probably training RAM
remove the GPU and use the iGPU
yank the power and CMOS battery just to be sure, then put CMOS battery then power back in
if you wait half an hour and it still won't POST, wait for the buzzer to arrive and hope

>>101584749
You should try updating the bios using the bios flashback button

>>101584782
That's just part of the product, you were warned about shitty Zotac fans for sure.

>>101584782
How old is it and which model?

>>101584708
I don't know, get yourself a used p520 thinkstation, add your HBA cards and call it a day.
Or an HP Z420 mobo with a xeon cpu.
The fuck are you even trying to use this for? Why the fuck do you need DDR5 ECC RAM (which isn't being sold to consumers at all) anyways? The fuck do you even need the 1000w PSU for?
Do some actual research then come back, holy shit. The more I look at your list the more retarded it gets.

>>101584786
>Such as?
How far you are reducing brightness, how dynamic the content you view on it is, how regularly you run pixel refresh etc etc. Going from 200nits to 180 nits isn't likely to make an appreciable difference in longevity. I'm of the opinion that if one is prepared to spend the dosh these fancy oled monitors ask for they are fully understanding of the weaknesses of these panels. I run mine at about 200 nits and let it run the pixel refresh reliably so I am not concerned about overall longevity of the panel.

>>101584782
Yes absolutely. The current Zotac generation is said to be the quietest among all AIB cards.

>>101584825
2 fan.
three months old

>>101584843
it is a very nice card, but the fan starting clacking like a bearing is going out.
its a shame everything sold these days is junk that breaks down instantly

>>101584811
>probably training RAM
>remove the GPU and use the iGPU
Already waited with the GPU out.
>yank the power and CMOS battery just to be sure, then put CMOS battery then power back in
>if you wait half an hour and it still won't POST, wait for the buzzer to arrive and hope
Have to sleep now, but I'll give that a shot tomorrow. Might just take it apart and redo everything too.
>>101584813
Already did.

>>101584876
See if it's stuck on something or whatever, otherwise just RMA.
Have you tried overclocking yet? I'm in the market for a 4070S and thought about Zotac.

>>101584846
The 2 fan zotac cards are extremely shitty, they also have disgusting coil whine most of the time. Only good thing is the 5 year warranty if you registered. Get it replaced.

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so the older = better meme is just reality here to stay now or what?
everything was produced with a higher quality standard back in the day.
Monitors feel more flimsy then ever, mouses dont last, computer hardware may be faster then ever, but also issues every week
very shitty situation in all aspects of life

>>101584928
just a consequence of jews and jeets

>>101584920
right, gonna do it in a few weeks when im busy with work and done with this game.
hope the RMA wont take too long.
>>101584914
nah it aint stuck.
>overclocking
no, but it stays cool and quiet and there should be plenty headroom (without the fan clacking)
there is coil whine, but normal GPU levels id say

>>101584928
>>101584951
This is because IBM lost control.

>>101584966
Would be interesting because buildzoid kinda shat on the Zotac 4070 Ti

>>101584976
bullshit.
This is happening in every single industry.
My new washing machine is FUCKING RUSTING after only 3 years, when the old one lasted over 20.
should have just fixed that.

>>101585019
yep, jews and jeets

>>101584997
I bought zotac because it was the cheapest card, apart from my issue it seems fine, Temps stay around 72 under load and hotspot under 84
fans were pretty quiet when they worked right

>>101584914
The only good dual fan 4070s is the asus one, the other ones are trash. If you get zotac then only get the 3 fan, which is pretty decent with barely any chance of coil whine. It's a big card tho.

pretty funny how i can massively undervolt my cheap RTX 3060 12GB and it works just fine at 65 degrees (a bit hotter in OCCT of course)

>>101584835
>The fuck are you even trying to use this for?
It's a NAS. I'll be seeding from there, running ytarchive to back stuff up, etc. Nothing heavy.
It's not that I specifically want DDR5 ECC, it's that I would prefer to build something new, which means DDR5. But ECC isn't available.
The NAS will stick around for years but I will likely upgrade the HDDs over time to expand the capacity of it.

>>101585081
you retarded nigger, just buy some old dogshit DDR4 system and call it a day
it's a NAS not a NASA supercomputer

>>101585063
>funny how I can just use my worthless piece of shit at slightly lower temps
3060 is ultimate retard bait

>>101585169
What makes the 3060 a "worthless piece of shit"?

>>101585038
Kinda high for stock but it's a small card after all

>>101585056
The Asus dual is certainly the best, just worried about high memory temps above 90C according to reviews, would be a deal breaker.
Zotac and Inno3D dual cards are fine for stock usage but I want headroom for OC.
Personally I'm considering Asus Dual, Zotac/Inno3D x3, and MSI gaming X slim, best price/perf here other than niggabyte.
MSI is cheapest but I couldn't find anything on the pcb or cooler, I don't want the Ventus experience.

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>>101585081
>something new
Okay, here's something you need to know about 'new'. It's shit. Better to buy old and reliable hardware that's been documented by thousands of people over the years it was in service vs some new technology that isn't even used by much and can fail at any time.
You do know that some servers still use DDR3 ECC RAM? Because it's fucking reliable.
Synology NAS can be expanded, just buy more and connect them together if your HDD ever grows bigger.

Is a 4070S good enough that I can pretend I'm """""futureproofing"""" my build or am I better off just getting a budget GPU like a 6750/3060/4060 since most of what I play is old games at 1080p anyway? I'm only buying a GPU because my old one died after 10 years and I've got no other option so it's pretty difficult for me to justify dropping $600+ on one to myself.

If I put everything (OS + media + games) on one big SSD (with partitions) will the partitions with game software function properly if I reinstall Windows

>>101585169
>noooo stop buying the high VRAM midrange
>you have to buy the 4090 instead NOOOOW
please kill yourself

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Just wait until M4 Ultra releases and mogs everyone

Can you guys recommend a display to build my system around? It's gonna be used mostly for programming, reading manga, a bit of movie watching, emulating pcsx2 and rpcs3.
Any real reason to go over 1080p resolution? I can afford going over, I just don't know if it'll be very beneficial. Will probably get a vesa arm for it, so ergonomics don't matter.

>>101584482
putting native render and upscaling techs in the same chart is highly jewish tactics for obvious reasons
this would be fine if the tech was 100% transparent and working, same thing with frame gen, if there were 0 downsides, it would be fine
but since it's not it will remain jewish tactics
>>101584569
>AMD Jewery is preferrable to Intel Jewry
>>101585290
>futureproofing
>old gaems only
imagine buying anything above the first non shit/minimum viable gpu then like a 6650xt or arc 750 or some shit like that
>>101585326
if you add them to steam library or something I would assume so
>partitions in 2024
can't you reinstall windows without a drive wipe in 2024? I haven't even checked

>>101585402
uhhh
no one said anything about 4090?
thats even worse value for your money
>muh VRAM
kys AI shitter

>>101585287
I already have a NAS with DDR3 ECC RAM I don't want to '''upgrade''' to something that I already own, and is obsolete.

>>101585290
>10 years
Impossible to say without a crystal ball.
But for "older" games at 1080p 4070S should be fine for a long time, most "old" games run fine on a 1080 still...
Maybe keep whatever you have or buy something cheaper.

>>101585494
>over 1080p
If you go above 24" absolutely yes.
Recommendation depends on price, see rtings.com and prad.de, two best sites for screens that come into my mind.

>>101585438
>applel

>>101585508
If you're serious about server stuff then go read up more on it. But you know what, sure. Go buy and build whatever toy NAS you want to build. I can't stop you.

Intel's stock price is taking it all surprisingly well.

>>101585553
I would bet AMD's dipped.

>>101585494
I'd only recommend 1080p for gaming. Otherwise, you'd be better off with 1440p or 5K. The LG 27GR95QE-B is a good start. As long as it's 27" and 1440p or 5K you'll be much happier.

>>101585553
diy market is small and irrelevant if you're not aware. intel/nvidia are both big money in oems/datacenters.

>>101585587
>LG 27GR95QE-B
You're probably right about something higher being better for programming purposes, but why a 240hz monitor?
>>101585541
Good advice. Am using rtings, will check out prad.de.

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>>101585494
for me its a 21" CRT
perfect fit for my 4070 super intel core i7 (12th gen offcourse)

>>101585626
But it's not just the DIY market. If anything the news first came from datacenters and they're getting hit the most since they usually run 24/7 so they started to notice the degradation first.

>>101585645
That's just the recommended monitor at a fair price. I guess 240hz is just a bonus.

>>101585665
news first came from retarded game companies who are running consumer cpus in game servers. not datacenters.

>>101585652
How much kHz can that tube handle?

>upgraded GPU and got a new case
>connected everything, hyped as fuck to test the new setup
>fans work, GPU lights up, CPU cooler works, but No Signal
>also AIO started gurgling for some fucking reason despite being mounted in the exact same place
Gonna fucking hang myself

>>101585711
107

>>101585759
AIO gurgling after a new install is normal as that is just the air in the loop circulating again. It will calm down once it gets to the high point.

>>101585545
I'm not serious. I just want to store things.
Right now I have ~52TB on my NAS, and another ~24TB across other hdds.

>>101585667
It just seems I can get 4k ips panels for cheaper. Looking at something like the "LG 27UL550P-W". My budget isn't really limited, I just don't wanna pay for a feature that doesn't really matter to me, and 240hz seems overkill.
If there's something I should for on the used market that'd also be appreciated advice.

>>101585850
I don't care what you want to do with it. You do you. It's your money.

Gonna build my first pc in a few days.. I'm pretty nervous
Any tips I should remember so I do stuff correctly?

>>101585863
Or you can buy used. I have both a PG/MQ279Q which are good 1440p monitors, you should be able to find them for little money.

Just got the asus TUF 4080 super gaming OC
Is this a good card? It was 69$ more expensive than the MSRP but it looked like it was worth

>>101585817
Nice, I tried to find nice large CRT but no luck.
21" are unicorns in my cuntry.
I should use my 17" more often but I can't go back to such small screen.

>>101585929
No. Could have gotten a normal 4080 for a lot cheaper. The Super is only 1-2% better than the base card. So you probably spent an extra $200-$300. It wasn't worth it.

>>101585929
Main difference between cards these days is the cooling/acoustic performance. The Tuf is fine. Better than the MSRP cards but not as good as a Strix/Aorus/MLG Turbo Gaming Edition/etc. The 40 series is on a very efficient node so they don't need massive coolers (though many have them).

>>101585900
Whatever you do, don't stick your penis on the power supply. However you can rub it on the ram sticks without issues.

>>101585900
RTFM

>>101585929
Yes it's good

>>101585989
Heh... Ramming my ram sticks with my stick...

>>101585697
The datacenters are the ones who offered the hardware first
Since 6th gen Intel, many DCs have been offering consumer i5/i7/i9 CPUs as game servers. Some where even offered overclocked. I remember OVH offering OCed 7700k CPUs.

They offered these CPUs and have continued offering them because they have held up in the environment, up until 13th and 14th gen where there are issues.

>>101585900
I'm probably a retard, but I feel like some stuff you can really only learn by fucking it up yourself once. And yes, read the manual before every single thing you do.

>>101585759
it broke, and no returns allowed. sorry! :)

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>>101583961

I was so close to getting Intel shite too lol

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>>101585495
>if there were 0 downsides
Native doesn't have zero downsides
Heard it here first, native can't be recommended.

>>101586503
ditto. so fucking glad I waited a day to think about it and then this all comes out

>>101585494
I'm almost done bothering you guys.
Any reason not to pull the trigger on this one if I'm happy with it feature-wise? Rtings doesn't have a review so I don't really know about the actual display quality. "U28R550UQP" https://www.happii.dk/Skaerm/28-Samsung-U28R55-3840x2160-4k-UHD-IPS-HDR10/3139342

https://youtu.be/RxEa7k8j1Ro
Friendship ended with razer, wooting back on top as best keyboard

>>101586508
>Wonky game engine without context
Jewish poster
Disregard for now

what to do with an extra cpu? is there anything useful servers i should make.

whats a good 1440p 144hz monitor for gaming? ty

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>same issue on intel and amd iGPU's
lol

I lost the wait game and got 7900xt (vapor-x)
how much did i fucked up?

>>101586731
>AyyMD GPU
You fucked up bigly, hugely even.

>>101586742
I use linux

poorfag/thirdie/shitskin here with a GTX 960, ryzen 5 3600 6-Core and ASRock B450M

what GPU should I get for 1080p gayming and photo editing? budget is ~400usd and can hopefully last several years
kinda in the same boat as >>101585290

>>101586647
>https://youtu.be/RxEa7k8j1Ro
I mean, this isn't new? There are a lot of programs that do this already. Not to mention other koyboards that's not branded as 'gaymen' has had this feature for a long time now.

>>101584112
Meh, i mostly play indie games

>>101586753
Then you're used to troubleshooting and dealing with broken stuff, you might be alright in that case.

>>101586763
>Not to mention other koyboards that's not branded as 'gaymen' has had this feature for a long time now.
name 3

>>101586731
Depends how much did you spend.
I'm happy with my 7900XT.

>>101586817
no you're not

I have a ridiculously large penis, what mouse and keyboard do I buy

>>101586839
TEX Shinobi
You don't need the mouse.

>>101586817
a 500$

>>101586876
Then I doubt you could find anything better at that price.

>>101586508
Ghosting I get but what the hell is the crispiness in the FSR image?

>>101586756
New: 4060Ti or 7700XT
Used: 6800XT
Considering you have only a 3600 (not even X) I wouldn't spend too much and probably look for a good used card if you have the option.
>poorfag
Check if your chinkshit PSU can handle it

>>101586798
Pretty much any keyboard that had n-key rollover. Just search it up.

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>>101586839
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letsgo

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>>101586839
Tecware Phantom 104 because real men use full boards
Roccat Kone Pro because your not a handler, are you?

>>101586951
>Sound Blaster
That's blast from the past.

>>101586973
damn right and I'm going to use with some good ol vidya

>>101586876
How?

What GPUs won't be bottlenecked by a 5600X3D?

>>101586914
What's being described in that video is not n-key rollover

>>101586477
NO REFUNDS

>>101587008
GeForce 8800 GTX

>>101583961
Is this bundle a good idea for a PC build? Lots of video rendering and gaymes sometimes
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006713/intel-core-i7-14700k,-asus-z790-gaming-wifi7,-gskill-ripjaws-s5-32gb-kit-ddr5-6000,-computer-build-bundle

>>101587103
Don't buy Intel

>>101585553
thats because stocks are memes and they just lie to investors

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>>101587008
nothing, get a 4090 if you want

>>101585553
Both presidential candidates talked about invest in chip making fabs, that means more government gibs for Intel.

>>101584211
I just installed new pc too and I have to say fixing it after pleothra of issues to working state feels much better than getting it first try. Anyway, there 2 things I did to fix mine that could help you as what it appears to be bios issue. 1. Get a screwdriver and reset your bios by putting it between 2 specific pins for few seconds; rom or CMOS or something was it called on your motherboard ( and make sure the computer is not plugged in while you do that)
2. Get bios update for your motherboard model and on a usb drive (make sure the usb is right format most likely fat32 or exfat) and plug it in after resetting the bios but before booting the computer. You should be able to find instructions on how to update your bios as the older version of bios might not be able to work with other newer parts like a new rtx 4000s series until you update bios; hence why motherboard shows red light despite your gpu's presumably workingfans.

where am i buying parts from?
i refuse to use amazon on principle
is newegg still run by jeets?

pop in on cyberpunk is so bad even on a high end machine

>>101587541
Supposedly they nerfed the lod distance in one patch to claw back some memory.

>>101587541
this fixes the popin and stutter if you tweak the ini
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10490?tab=description

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>>101586647
>b-b-b-but
DLSS Quality at 1440p or 2160p is on average as good as muh native

>>101586896
FSR doesn't know what's supposed to be behind the object as the background is revealed, so it just produces a garbled mess

im pissed about the 4070 super fan

>Acer Nitro XV272KLV
27" 4k155hz 298€ why is it so cheap? (Other than being full of defective pics on Amazon review)

For comparison a LG 27gp850 on sale is 255€ as you know 1440p165-180

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I got the Pop Air XL a year ago and the fans are all squeaky already. I warrantied it but are the Fractal fans always shitty? I think I'll replace them with trusty old Arctics.

why are monitors so hard to buy? is there something thats wont break in a year, 1080p, high-ish refresh rate, and doesnt look stupid? it really seems like you cant match all of the criteria.

few months later I am extremely satisfied with my 4080S/7800X3d purchases
I've had a 1440p/240hz oled for a month now and not sure how I lived without it before

>>101587750
Don't say things like that, I don't want to upgrade my monitor just yet.

>>101587738
>1080p
You have no standards anyway so it doesn't matter which one you buy.

>>101587762
just gotta hold out until the end of 2025 for RGB oled monitors...

>>101587738
Samsung or another brand with a Samsung panel. I've only had LG panels die.

>>101587762
Nah anon, oled is legitimately life changing. it's so fucking good it's actually unreal. I'd rather have my old 2070S and this oled than my 4080S and old monitor (1440p/165hz Dell IPS) . and it's not even close

>>101587767
ill go lower lol

>>101587773
LG and Dell make the best monitors, period. samsung make very bad monitors. i find it strange that you have an opposite experience

>>101587792
Proof?

>>101587792
I thought Dell used Samsung panels. I could've gotten unlucky with LG.

>>101587803
>>101587815
that's what I've read at least. LG and Dell are always solid, while samsung was constant problems

>>101587771
Then another 6 months for availability, 9 months for price drops.
So 2027.

>>101586763
>All features existed before
>No other company has them
Interesting

>>101586839
Wooting 80he and uhh Razer viper v3 or ultralight pro x 2 whatever the fuck
Or any other mouse like that

>>101587650
The fact that DLSS is unusable in some instances is enough
Should not be mixed in with native renders in bar graphs to confuse consumers due to Jewish trickery due to fps trickery
Case closed for now

>>101587738
Rng if modern electronics last anyway

>>101587780
I've seen many comments ppl returning 1440p oleds due to text clarity kek

OLED looks nice if you're just looking at a still image. Anything else and it's shit.

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>>101583961
are these vcore readings safe for a 12600k?
I think I have ratio offset +51 and auto because I'm too lazy to manually set voltages.

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Thinking about upgrading an office pc to a modest game system. It has a 450w PSU and AM4 socket mobo. I can get a 5700x from a friend for free. And there are some used rtx 4070 on the market for fair prices.
>5700x tdp is 65w
>rtx 4070 is 200w
>nog many other components, 2x8gb ram, just one m2 SSD and 3 fans. No RGB.
>The PSU is a be quiet! System Power 10 450W
Little worried about that PSU, but if it's not necessary I'll leave it in. Is this going to work or am I pushing it?

>>101587738
>1080p
lmao
If you want old shit just go full meme and get a CRT

>>101587884
I have absolute 0 issues with text readability on my XG27AQDMG
isn't this more of an issue with QDOLED? Im not even using cleartype or whatever the 3rd party software is called either. this monitor is utter perfection as far as I'm concerned
haven't even tried hdr yet

>>101587937
absolutely get a psu, don't try running that with 450w.
>>101587925
poorfag cope lmao

we get it you're poor, never used an oled monitor and coping
Just like all the poorfags 6 years ago going
>uhm sweaty 144hz monitor? you dont need that unless you're playing competitive counter strike

>>101587930
Check how much voltage you get under heavy load for both multi and single core. Cinebench r23 or r20 is good enough but it also depends if you have AVX offset enabled.
Max voltage is meaningless without context, settings like LLC will impact both idle and load voltage.

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>>101587884
>The fact that DLSS is unusable in some instances is enough
That's because you're small brained and can only think in black and white. DLSS Quality at 1440p and 2160p is has better than or equivalent to native image quality in 2/3s of the tested games. DLSS is a no brainer in most cases for Geforce owners. This benchmark >>101584482 is therefore typical. Radeon can't keep up, and is worse value in general. Also keep in mind that a lot of games won't offer a "muh native" option in the future.

>There is no option for "no upscaling,"
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/senuas-saga-hellblade-2-benchmark/3.html

And anyway you'd have to be retarded to play modern games without reconstruction, as they're designed around it, and you'll have a tough time running full resolution even with your favorite muh VRAM cards

>>101587735
1440p is easily under $200 USD
The monitor you're asking about was released in 2019

>>101587988
there's nothing wrong with being a poorfag. I've been there myself. but these retards need to keep the cope to themselves, it's fucking embarrassing lmao

>>101584580
4080 super is a great card.
Also, Nvidia is fucking Jewish for not making it 20 GB of vram
So I bought a 7900xtx
Fuck those Jews.
But they pay well so that's nice

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>>101587930
>1.344 V
that's safe
12900K runs 1.35 V at stock

thoughts on dldsr? personally I love it and it made me go with a 1440p monitor (XG27AQDMG)
activating dldsr when I have the gpu overhead and being able to just play at 1440p depending if I need the frames has been fucking patrician. I mostly play weebshit that is easy to run so I play all that stuff at 4k/dldsr, but stuff like cp2077 or remnant 2 1440p is perfect to get more frames

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>>101587738
because every monitor made in the past 20 years sucks dick

>>101588051
begone troon

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>>101588065
you probably spent thousands on monitors over the years and are still worse off then you were 20 years ago
buying is for retards

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>>101588000
I tried r23, and this is multicore (for 3 passes only)
single core uses lower of course
also reseted the values at the start
man shit gets hot, 75C with 15C room temp lmao
I'll have to undo the OC come summer

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>>101588032
I use DLDSR regularly, especially in combination with DLSS. 4K DLSS Quality + DLDSR > 1440p DLAA. 1080p and 1440p users should be using DSR or DLDSR in pretty much any game where it works well

>>101587977
>absolutely get a psu, don't try running that with 450w.
You sure? I was thinking 65w for psu + 200w gpu + 50?w for the rest makes 315w.
315/450=70% usage
Yes that's on the high side, but what about if I undervolt that rtx 4700? 40w off could get me to 275w total usage

>>101588222
Single core should get higher voltage because with multicore load line kicks in.
But it looks like you have AVX offset enabled so if you run any software using AVX instruction the CPU will lower the frequency and voltage in result.
75°C isn't that hot, if you want to see hot try Prime95 Small FFTs or y cruncher VT3.
1.22V average doesn't look even on the high side, were you hitting power limit?

hello I have been out of the pc building games for almost 7 years. I read the thread entirely and didn’t see any info to these questions:
is there use case benefits to going nvidia over AMD for gpu? I’ve heard raytracing is one but idk if I’ve ever used it. my budget for a card is $500, maybe I could stretch $550. cpu would be r5 7600x
2) I don’t play a lot of aaa stuff, mostly vr and upscaled/AA less intensive games. will a 1440p or 4k monitor look awful if I play stuff in windowed mode or downscale the resolution?

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>>101584928
Come home white man

>>101588340
>I’ve heard raytracing is one
True, but that's only relevant on the high-end cards. Yes you could try ray and pathtracing on a cheap rtx 4060, but the framerate would make most games unplayable

>>101586903
cheers anon
I will upgrade CPU later and my PSU is a Thermaltake TR2-600W, will it handle the GPU?

>>101585290
what cpu are you running
>>101586756
RX 6600 and 5700x3d

>>101588394
>what cpu are you running
5700X3D

>>101588407
get a 7600XT

>>101588419
>7600XT
Is there any reason not to get one of the last gen 7/800 models? They seem to be about similarly priced

>>101588376
okay, so you can’t even run it at my price level. thanks, I’ll try to find out some more about the monitors

DAC or audio card? It seems like DACs are ludicrously expensive compared to audio cards.

>>101588291
Why are you so hellbent on keeping that weak psu? You can get a decent 600-750w for around 75$

>>101588458
your speaker is infinitely more important that your processor for sound quality

I cannot, for the life of me, decide which motherboard to pair with a 7950x3d.

>>101588473
I exclusively use headphones on my gaming PC.

>>101588464
Well it's not the money, it's the hassle of replacing it. I was hoping just to swap the cpu and gpu and be done with it. But you have a point

>>101588497
It barely matters, what kind of connectivity do you need and how much do you want to spend?

>>101588506
guess it really depends on your price point. I think dacs have the higher ceiling because they are less prone to EM interference, but sound cards are probably slightly cheaper proportionally

>>101588293
Oh, I ran a few passes with single core and the voltages were lower so I thought it was always the case.
and CPU package power was 49.8w max single core and 151.7w multi core

>>101588458
DAC are better in theory but in reality you don't need either over the meme apple dongle
If you are 100% sure you need one get one off amazon or somewhere you can return it no questions asked because you don't want to burn $200+ on an audiophool meme
I say this as someone who almost has that happen, happily using "YOU 1000% NEED AN AMP" headphones off my motherboard

>>101588562
Keep it that way you can easily allow CPU to draw more power but I doubt you would be happy with the results. But that also means your motherboard isn't trying to pump the CPU with extra juice by default.
Did you check the frequency of P-cores during the test?
I don't many games are as demanding on the CPU to keep all the cores as busy as CB so it's just preparing for the worst.
But setting static all core offset with your current settings is just a placebo.
At least you can safely use your CPU.

>>101588458
A lot of recent motherboards have good sound chips already. Although a DAC would always be better just because there's no interference on the DAC unlike the sound card and mobo chip.
If you don't have trained ears then neither. If you're an audiophile get a DAC. Schiit brand is basically the Beats of headphones. I personally would go for JDS Atom 2 DAC and amp stack, that's my entry level.
It also depends on your equipment. If you mainly use IEMs then you probably don't need an amp and just get the DAC. If you use headphones or speakers then getting an amp is a good idea.

>>101588443
not really, if you can still find a 6800/6800XT then that would be overkill for 1080p

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>>101588639
well all core offset was 51 on p cores, but I think it was lower on cuck cores

>>101588659
I mean if I can get better performance at a comparable price I'm not going to complain about having room to grow
Newegg has a XFX SWFT 6800 for $350 which is just $30 more than most of the 7600XT models I see. I don't know if they're a quality brand though

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>DLSS is soooo much better than native dude

>>101588688
You should check effective clocks, if you keep all the safety features enabled you can experience clock "streaching" if CPU can't get enough voltage or Amps to keep the boostclock. OS will report full frequency but you will lose performance.
It mostly happens when people undervolt but it's strange that your CPU was able to hold 5.1GHz in CB while only pulling 150W and @ ~1.24V.

>>101588736
XFX is solid

>>101588792
I didn't even know about effective clocks!
you were right, Pcoars hover around 4660Mhz and ecoars around 3600mhz

>>101588909
oh so this means there is a setting in bios locking max power usage on my CPU?
you said
>you can easily allow CPU to draw more power but I doubt you would be happy with the results
worth it?
I mean, my shit runs ok, I was worried about vcore being too high, damaging my CPU on the long run

>>101588792
>if you keep all the safety features enabled you can experience clock "streaching" if CPU can't get enough voltage or Amps to keep the boostclock
i think you can disable this on intel (i really wish AMD let you do that too)

>>101588909
So if you want to continue your OC adventure you will need to start with unlocking power limit, then start with bumping voltage.
Or you can return to stock and let the boost algorithm do the job.
You can also check if PL1 and PL2 aren't kicking in for longer tests.

>>101588936
You can disable them on intel, you will lose stability but gain performance.
On AMD CPU will try to not crash and will downclock hard no matter what but you can show screenshots with 5GHz @0.9V.

>>101588992
PL1 and PL2 seem to be set at likr 4000w by default
worth continuing the OC adventure for performance gains? I don't really enjoy OCing, that's why I'm an offset boost casual

>>101589038
At this point I don't think the offset did anything because the CPU is downclocking anyway.
I OC for the sake of the OC it's not worth it for daily usage, I doubt you will see the difference of 300Mhz.
Try running some games and see which performs better, you can also set per core offsets instead, this will require checking which cores are the good ones.

The GPU I ordered doesn't come with a support bracket but reviews seem to suggest getting one, what exactly should I get that isn't an overpriced ripoff?

>>101589080
thanks bro. I guess I'll check if removing the offset gives me the same freqs

>>101589093
theyre like 4 dollars on amazon

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>>101589093
You could always improvise

>>101589139
I see them, I guess I don't know what I'm looking for. Just the adjustable cylinder ones?
>>101589177
I'd probably do this if my case didn't have a window and I didn't have to look at a toilet paper tube in it all the time

>one of the issues with raptor lake is the ring bus being over-volted (due to Intel pushing the design to hard to chase AMD)
>the rumor is that the Arizona fab is the source of the oxidation issue

Is intel wifi really that much better than realtek and mediatek?

>>101589258
Kek, you can't trust mutts to do anything right

>gigabyte mobo
>turn pc off
>turn on
>the gigabyte orange mobo lighting is back again
does this every happen with anyone, I sometimes just turn my pc off and when I boot it up the lights come back. I have to use rgbfusion to turn it off again

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>>101589177

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFE4q35buKs

RIP Intel...

>>101589268
It was but one of their recent internet chips is buggy, maybe someone can chime in which one it was

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>>101589469
Kek I found it like 10 minutes ago too. Intel are in such deep shit when they have nothing competitive on the horizon and have to be shackled by their own expensive foundry.

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mfw when i decided against buying intel in my latest build

>>101589581
Arrow lake supposedly launches this year
TSMC

>>101588539
I think my needs are pretty standard; might need connections for extra case fans. >$250 on a mobo seems pretty retarded. I kind of care about VRM quality, but I don't really care for overclocking and the cases I've been eyeing should be good for CPU temps.

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>>101589729
$200 boards have enough vrm
look at hw unboxed they did a vrm temp video

>>101589469
Did they fire their R&D, production engineers, and QA engineers at the same time?
They repeatedly produced defective designs for mass production.
This sounds like inexperienced management.

how do you guys store spare cpus you might accrue?

I wish zen 5 used tsmc 3nm

>>101589944
On a shelf

>>101589962
so does AMD

Why did microcenter raise the price on their bundles?

>>101589750
I'd settle on a B650 Steel Legend, but they seem to be completely out of stock. The Taichi Lite seems great, but it's EATX and I'd prefer a smaller case. The B650M-HDV/M.2 might also be fine, but it seems pretty limited.

I was considering getting an intel 12th gen... but what are odds Intel goes bankrupt making future support for their CPUs unlikely? At this point I wonder if I should look at an older AMD CPU instead.

>>101590453
Or just buy the current AMD CPUs that are at a discount? The 7800X3D at around $360 is very hard to beat on price to performance considering that Zen 5 only adds around 15% to IPC.

>>101590453
even if it wasn't for the Intel recall, amd is the way to go now. 5800x3d if am4, 7800x3d if am5. the only 2 cpu you need to consider
ignore all cope posters

>>101590154
Bidenomics, that's why you don't waitfag in 2024

>>101589944
I poke holes in the skin of my asscheek with a needle in the shape of the cpu. I have 3 stored for safe keeping

>>101590154
its still an amazing price. it's only up 30 bucks compared to a few months ago when I got mine

>>101590516
I mean 7800X3D gets at most 10-12% extra FPS over a 12900K for double the price. Modern games just aren't that CPU bottlenecked.

Thinking about getting a 4070 Super, might regret later

>>101590675
get a 7900gre and never regret

>>101590401
>B650 Steel Legend
They're easy to find in Japan when I went last month. Pretty cheap too at 29800jpy which was about 190usd

>>101583961
>Instability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.
Are we really sure that 12th gen is not affected by this? Has anyone some thorough tests? Alder Lake is not that much different from Raptor Lake, IIRC.

>go from 2560x1080 to 2560x1440
feeliks like staring at a fucking square

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>>101589944
I wrap them in bubble wrap and stow them in picrel

what's a cheap ass case wide enough fit the peerless assassin SE but compact otherwise?

no RgayB and no dust-viewing side glass would be nice

I was looking at the nox hummer vault but from online measurements it seems to be about 3mm too narrow

>>101590905
>https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=gehatx&sort=p&xf=7753_155%7E8659_ohne
theres also volume filter etc

>>101590839
Alderlake was binned to run far more conservatively.
3.6ghz ring clock as opposed to 4.5ghz on raptorlake
1.35v max on the 12900k unlike 1.46v on the 13900k or 1.5v on the 14900k etc.

>>101590401
B650M riptide or pro RS
>>101590905
IM01 Pro or AP201

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>>101589469
I like my cpus like I like my mars bars: deep fried.

>>101590938
handy site, thanks
>>101591011
IM01 Pro has dust-view port, it's a downgrade from the non-pro. The asus ap201 looks great, it's going on the short list, ty

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>>101590556
Is that so?

>>101584211
ram slots are the best retard filter
stay on playstation, you retarded nigger gorilla

>>101585759
at least it didn't explode
stay on playstation, nigger

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>>101591118
This is not fair bros

>>101591118
They waste so much time testing cpus that are identical, differing only in core count and clock speed. They could include other cool stuff that people may still be using like Haswell, Skylake, AMD Piledriver

>>101586508
cherry picked much
only unreal engine and Id Tech have non-dogshit TAA

>>101591280
Steve said the 8700k and 9900k revisit is coming next
Hopefully the 10900k is also included

12600K and 3070ti chad here

Are there going to be newer CPUs on LGA1700? When the fuck do the new Nvidia GPUs come out??

>>101591304
That's all skylake. Testing the same cpu 3 times is nonsensical.

if i wan t to watch vr porn can i hide the monitor screen|? like turn to windows when someone enters my room

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>buy amd my benchods

>>101591280
fucking this

>>101591304
lets hope they are OCed to 5Ghz

>>101591328
They have different levels of mitigations, clockspeed and L3 cache size
8700k and 9900k are similar but 10900k runs much quicker in practice

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>>101591330

>>101591349
were did the 1.54% even go? your image makes no sense

>>101583961
Why can't these fuckers just make things that work
What happened? Wasn't """"AI""""" supposed to fix everything?

>>101591280
>Piledriver
But why? It doesn't even have AVX2.

>>101591368
>were did the 1.54% even go?
China, like everything related to the steam hardware survey. You know it is accurate when they have to keep "fixing" the results when simplified chinese jumps 10-20% periodically.

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>>101591118
>AMD's bottom of the barrel last-gen 6-core slop CURBSTOMPING Intel's latest and greatest
Holy kek.

>>101591401
It really just goes to show how dogshit Intel has been for the last 5 years (and counting).
The only reason they still exist today is because Biden is pumping money into Israel.

>>101590905
>nox hummer vault
Iberian chad too? Check the Lian Li A3, if you're willing to wait a bit, they're only releasing here in late August for some reason. Otherwise you have the Asus AP201, or the Inter-tech IM2 Expander from Germany (same case as the Sama IM-01 Pro in burgerland) which I did get, it did fit my Phantom Spirit 120 with no issues, so the Peerless Assassin is guaranteed to fit. You also have a couple Jonsbo cases, bit I think those are glass side panel only.

>>101591377
For entertainment. He would get many comments which are important on youtube.
No one cares that an 8 core cpu with 100 MHz of extra clock speed performs faster than the 6 core version. It's obvious.

>>101591401
>the 5600X3D is literally just X3D CCDs AMD was going to throw away

so is Asrock good now?
| iwant to get an am5 board
are there gonna be new mobos with new amd cpus coming out?

>>101591444
All of the consumer x3d's are just the shit dies that wouldn't pass epyc validation.

>>101591466
no need to specify x3d anon

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>>101591466
and its about $50 worth of silicon...
meanwhile the Intel 7 wafers are supposed to be 4 times the cost of a TSMC 4N wafer...
10nm really fucked Intel.

>>101591466
That's a good thing
The "shittiest" leakiest dies often clock the highest too and would be wasted on a server part running at 3.8ghz

>>101590401
You should always look at the availability and pricing in your region since retailers can upcharge on popular products when they're short in supply. I got Aorus Elite AX V2 few months ago because it was cheaper than Steel Legend here in Poland.

Is one stick of 16GB 6000 DDR5 fine temporarily? Like can I still play games? One of my RAM sticks is fucked but I can't get replacements just yet. My old PC uses 2 x 8GB 3200 DDR4. Will I feel a downgrade?

>>101591686
it's sub optimal but it will be fine until you can fix it

>>101591686
And many ram companies boast lifetime warranties... just get new sticks for free

Uh, am I supposed to push hard into the RAM? It's not going in, and I am putting it the right way (front facing away from the CPU).

>>101591463
>Asrock good now
probably best choice on am 5
>new am5 boards
end of september

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>>101591719
see that little notch
if that is in the right place
push firmly with your thumbs on either end of the stick until you hear it click and see the retaining thingies move into place

>>101591719
firm push until the latches close on their own

>>101591719
RAM does require a bit of force, yes

>>101591737
It is, I can clearly see how it aligns.
>>101591739
>>101591743
Alright, let me try again.

Would you pay $85 for a 4070 super over a 7900 gre? Only considering ray tracing for Minecraft

>>101588391
6800XT can draw some power but 600W should be fine even if you upgrade to say a 5700X or something but the PSU is trash regardless.
I wouldn't waste too much on your current pc.

>>101591752
Alright, I got it. Surprising amount of force you need for such a little object to slide in, I was afraid of breaking it or the mobo.

Does AMD motheboards still require you to install a bunch of stuff from a USB before you can install an OS or do they work out of the box like intel ones?

If i build a B650 system will it just werk or will there be headaches?

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>>101583961
>Avoid iGPU-less cpus
why? you are never going to use it anyways

>>101591803
>>101591803
>>101591803

>>101591802
as a redundancy and fallback option to ensure boot in case the main GPU has an issue, bakanon

>>101591789
When was that a thing? Windows XP times?

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>>101583961
There's a 4060 ti Gigabyte OC Windforce on sale for 180 bucks, at least for 16 gb. Should I cop? Wanna try a small factor pc build for my GF. Maybe I'll donate my 5800x for her. Any PC case?

>>101591829
Nvidia gpus will nvr fail me

>>101591802
It's barely relevant now because you have to go out of your way to get something new without some sort of igpu.

>>101591789
BIOS update if you get a cpu that's newer than the board.
USB thing was only for Win7 installs and earlier.

>>101591879
>There's a 4060 ti Gigabyte OC Windforce on sale for 180 bucks, at least for 16 gb.
Can you post a link?

>>101592107
Can't be real. 16gb 4060ti is at least 400 bucks