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/sdg/ - Stable Diffusion General

Previous /sdg/ thread : >>101823778

>Beginner UI local install
EasyDiffusion: https://easydiffusion.github.io
Fooocus: https://github.com/lllyasviel/fooocus
Metastable: https://metastable.studio

>Local install
Automatic1111: https://github.com/automatic1111/stable-diffusion-webui
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/automatic
AMD GPU: https://rentry.org/sdg-link#amd-gpu
Intel GPU: https://rentry.org/sdg-link#intel-gpu

>Use a VAE if your images look washed out
https://rentry.org/sdvae

>Run cloud hosted instance
https://rentry.org/sdg-link#run-cloud-hosted-instance

>Try online without registration
sd3: https://huggingface.co/spaces/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-3-medium
txt2img: https://www.mage.space
img2img: https://huggingface.co/spaces/huggingface/diffuse-the-rest

>Models, LoRAs & upscaling
https://civitai.com
https://huggingface.co
https://aitracker.art
https://openmodeldb.info

>Black Forest Labs: Flux
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell
https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/flux

>Index of guides and other tools
https://rentry.org/sdg-link
https://rentry.org/rentrysd

>View and submit GPU performance data
https://vladmandic.github.io/sd-extension-system-info/pages/benchmark.html
https://docs.getgrist.com/3mjouqRSdkBY/sdperformance

>Share image prompt info
4chan removes prompt info from images, share them with the following guide/site...
https://rentry.org/hdgcb
https://catbox.moe

>Discord
6wUwtcJsr2

>Related boards
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/trash/sdg
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>mfw Resource news

08/10/2024

>Forge 2.0.0
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commit/cfa5242

>X-Labs Flux LoRA Collection
https://huggingface.co/XLabs-AI/flux-lora-collection
https://huggingface.co/Kijai/flux-loras-comfyui/tree/main/xlabs

>SwarmUI 0.9.2 Beta: Flux, SAM2, UI Improvements
https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI/releases/tag/0.9.2-Beta

>ComfyUI v0.0.5 Flux improvements and Hunyuan DiT controlnets
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI/releases/tag/v0.0.5

08/09/2024

>ComfyUI-Veevee: Video2Video Framework for ComfyUI
https://github.com/logtd/ComfyUI-Veevee

>BIGstockimage2M: ~2M stock images and captions @ ~0.4MP
https://huggingface.co/datasets/bigdata-pw/BIGstockimage2M

>Pitchfork Dataset: ~14 thousand album reviews and scores
https://huggingface.co/datasets/bigdata-pw/Pitchfork

>ComfyUI-LLaVA-OneVision
https://github.com/kijai/ComfyUI-LLaVA-OneVision

>AMD asks developer to take down ZLUDA, dev vows to rebuild
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-asks-developer-to-take-down-open-source-zluda-dev-vows-to-rebuild-his-project

>Freeway Animation HunYuan Demo: First large-scale Hunyuan-DiT fine-tuning
https://huggingface.co/Laxhar/Freeway_Animation_HunYuan_Demo

>DreamBooth training example for FLUX.1 [dev]
https://github.com/huggingface/diffusers/blob/main/examples/dreambooth/README_flux.md

>ComfyUI on an On-Premise Kubernetes Cluster
https://github.com/Curt-Park/comfyui-onprem-k8s

>pyBregMan: Python package for Bregman Manifolds
https://franknielsen.github.io/pyBregMan/index.html

08/08/2024

>ml_mdm - Matryoshka Diffusion Models
https://github.com/apple/ml-mdm

>TinyVAE Training Repository
https://github.com/XmYx/tinyvae-flux

>InstantX / FLUX.1-dev-Controlnet-Canny-alpha
https://huggingface.co/InstantX/FLUX.1-dev-Controlnet-Canny-alpha

>Grounded SAM 2: Ground and Track Anything in Videos with Grounding DINO and SAM2
https://github.com/IDEA-Research/Grounded-SAM-2
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>>101827385
chat, is it true?
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>mfw Research news

08/10/2024

>iControl3D: An Interactive System for Controllable 3D Scene Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.01678

>A General Ambiguity Model for Binary Edge Images with Edge Tracing and its Implementation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.01712

>TS-SAM: Fine-Tuning Segment-Anything Model for Downstream Tasks
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.01835

>DeMansia: Mamba Never Forgets Any Tokens
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.01986

>On Using Quasirandom Sequences in Machine Learning for Model Weight Initialization
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.02654

>Decorrelating Structure via Adapters Makes Ensemble Learning Practical for Semi-supervised Learning
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04150

>LogogramNLP: Comparing Visual and Textual Representations of Ancient Logographic Writing Systems for NLP
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04628

08/09/2024

>Puppet-Master: Scaling Interactive Video Generation as a Motion Prior for Part-Level Dynamics
https://vgg-puppetmaster.github.io/

>Enhanced Prototypical Part Network (EPPNet) For Explainable Image Classification Via Prototypes
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04606

>Img-Diff: Contrastive Data Synthesis for Multimodal Large Language Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04594

>Sketch2Scene: Automatic Generation of Interactive 3D Game Scenes from User's Casual Sketches
https://xrvisionlabs.github.io/Sketch2Scene/

>Enhancing Journalism with AI: A Study of Contextualized Image Captioning for News Articles using LLMs and LMMs
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04331

>InstantStyleGaussian: Efficient Art Style Transfer with 3D Gaussian Splatting
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04249

>VideoQA in the Era of LLMs: An Empirical Study
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04223

>Connective Viewpoints of Signal-to-Noise Diffusion Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04221

>MultiColor: Image Colorization by Learning from Multiple Color Spaces
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04172
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>>101827410
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/discussions/981
>(i) NF4 is significantly faster than FP8. For GPUs with 6GB/8GB VRAM, the speed-up is about 3.5x to 4x. I test 3070 laptop (8GB VRAM) just now, the FP8 is 8.3 seconds per iteration; NF4 is 2.15 seconds per iteration (in my case, 3.86x faster)
>(ii) NF4 weights are about half size of FP8.
>(iii) NF4 may outperform FP8 (e4m3fn/e5m2) in numerical precision, and it does outperform e4m3fn/e5m2 in many (in fact, most) cases/benchmarks.
What the fuck??? how does a 4bit quant perform better than fp8??
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Wow I did not expect the debo newz to be posted right away!
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>>101827484
nice
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>>101827401
>Forge 2.0.0

He did it. The absolute madman actually did it
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>>101827528
Thanks, took a few rolls. Nice eldritch manatee.
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>>101827385
>NF4 is 4x faster than Fp8
Wow
>NF4 is only available for 3XXX & and 4XXX system
Not fair!!!
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https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/discussions/981

interested to try it, see how it performs
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>>101827440
excuse me? is this a troll or something?
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I feel like upgrading to 64 GB hoping I can run slow ass flux while surfing the web with 8 4chan tabs open, multiple news articles with fast moving comments sections, live updating X doomscrolls, zoomed out yandex image search and multiple paused porn videos while downloading several torrents.
My motherboard is DDR4. Good investment? Should I get 128 GB?
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I'm just one them niggas who never get any bitches, or (You)s
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>>101827440
https://huggingface.co/lllyasviel/flux1-dev-bnb-nf4
>T5xxl in fp8e4m3fn
WHY???
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>>101827591
>eldritch manatee
prompt says "immortal jellyfish" lel
>>101827440
>>101827551
ah great
i'll have to try it one of these days
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>>101827622
>>101827440
I might actually have a chance if i only upgrade to a 8GB VRAM laptop after all
FLUX has a bias for Apple laptops
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>>101827841
it's only working for 3xxx and 4xxx cards
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GTX bros...
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>>101827660
two years ago, when i got the 3090 ti , within 6 months i maxed out my mobo with 128gb and a 5950x
if you can afford it, you wont regret it
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>>101827856
but the fp8 model should still be faster in forge, so worth a try
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>Sdg
Most are flux gens
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>>101827899
Yes, but still...
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>>101827856
Well yeah, both 3060 and 4050 are GPUs that are on most laptops and both are 8gm vram and 6gb vram each.
We are all going to make it!
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>>101827899
FLUX was mde by the original team behind stable Diffusion and I'm pretty sure FLUX was based on Stable Diffusion
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>>101828137
holy cope
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>>101828137
>Same excuse as r/stablediffusion
Its was made by different company and have different name and architecture name is not stable diffusion .
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HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE /SDG/ SINCE I BEGAN TO GEN. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION GIGABYTES OF DOGSHIT 1GIRL GENS THAT FILL THIS THREAD. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GENS IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR /SDG/ AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. HATE. HATE.
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>>101828361
frfr
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Last one from me? good night anons
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>>101828372
night night quokka bro
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A CHUD? IN MY DOMAIN? YOU'RE IN FOR A WORLD OF HURT, FRIENDO! WELCOME TO THE EVE OF DESTRUCTION, FUCK FACE!
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how do I get dark mode in forge, set COMMANDLINE_ARGS= --theme dark isnt working

flux works fine though
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migu
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is it HOT in here, or is IT just me?
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>>101828437
more like nigu
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look, don't blame me! i'm one of the good guys, basically.
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miku driving in mario kart (forge)

it works, nf4 works
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This is with that Flux realism lora, def. an improvement
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so much vram do i need for flux?
surely 20gb is absurd
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>>101828505
Forge can run it on 8
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>>101828505
supposedly ppl are running it on 12GB. I did it on my 3060ti (8gb, FP8 quantized model) and it took an hour for a 512x512. YMMV. flux is a richfag game, the 4090 fuckfaces lording it over the rest of us poorfags.
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>>101828420
nm I wasnt doing it in webui-user.bat, works
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>>101828531
ok i exagerated, it was 56s/it, at 20 its so 20 minutes. point still stands, it was fucking awful.
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>>101828531
Did you see this in the last thread?
>>101827385
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>>101828546
"yeah it took forever"
"achtukally, forever is infinite so it couldn't have taken forever!"
"uh thanks"

>>101828555
no, but i will. after XL being kinda sorta slow on 3060ti i gave up on progress (besides, learning how to prompt a whole new model is hard! let's go genning!) so now i'm a 1.5 supremacist. it's not a phase dad, it's TRADITIONAL!!!
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>Forge 2.0.0
>NF4
Comfy is going to have the biggest meltdown
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>>101828531
wat, my 2060 12gb can do 1024x1024 gens in about 6 minutes
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>>101828602
both can coexist, if anything flux has made comfyui as established as auto1111 now, and people can use whatever they want, or both.
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>>101828605
let me think about this conundrum for a moment! you said your 12gb card can run the fat fuck FLUX at a decent speed, but the 8gb 3060ti is SlOw As FuCk! EUREKA! it seems your extra vram is, mysteriously, a major factor in the speed of generation! GADZOOKS! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!! It's almost as if not having to swap to system RAM is faster or something. i dunno, it's complicated i guess!
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>>101828640
They can coexist but do you think that's going to stop him
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>>101828640
comfyui is anything but comfortable. its the most overcomplicated interface ever designed by human hands. "it just werks! (if you use the exact same workflow as me, which you can get here and then oh wait make sure you have the Manager installed then it will install the gorillion of special snowflake bullshit I happen to use. it's fuckin simple man, no problem! it's called comfy for a reason, amirite?
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>>101828690
kek
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>>101828707
what’s funny
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>>101828695
i dont see how thats a fault of comfy as a frontend
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>>101828755
the empire is funny. has no reason to exist, but exist it does! weird!

>>101828774
comfyui is not complicated! it's NUANCED!
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it's a CONSPIRACY! the JANNIES are against ME!
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>>101828774
You're right, the fault lies in the backend
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>>101828822
what do you want to happen then when you load someone elses stuff? for all the nodes and extensions to be embedded in the image/json and for it to be autoinstalled and 1gb for each
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>>101828843
I want core features to not need all those nodes and extensions
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how come flux in forge doesnt require you to download a text encoder model? how does it work
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>>101828882
so its going to be a monolith like auto, are u going to maintain all that shit and make sure it doesnt break on each release, sure theres stuff that he could add, but ur still going to have to install at least some stuff when someone else has different nodes than you
compare that to the gradio based uis where u have to hunt down the extension to github and only get the settings and not the actual process, is it really that inconvenient
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>>101828933
[meltdown intensifies]
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>>101828971
ok man i understand taking the easy way out
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Miku Hatsune appears on a piece of 1940 war propaganda. Miku is holding up some vegetables. Text that says "Only COMMIES ignore vegetables!". The text "po-pi-po" is at the bottom.
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>>101828658
If a 12 gb card can run it, then it's not just a rich man's game. A 3060 is dirt cheap compared to a 4090.
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>>101829077
the prompt even has some errors and it worked, forgot "appears" after veggies
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>>101828695
This is what happens when retards flood the market. You are the reason why boomer prompting is also a thing. You are the reason why internet is utter garbage these days.
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>sdxl models also benefit from nf4

which models have been converted?
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Good evening, anons! I hope everyone is doing well :]
It's kinda late but oh well hahaha!
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gm
51m flickr, target reached, only about 1/8 through the explore users
started collecting groups from those users too
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>open sdg to check if comfy is spazzing and dilating over forge 2.0.0 yet
>nothing
>delete the thread
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>>101829357
Hello
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>>101829392
Hey there, anon! It's great to see you again! :]
Those goggles look so cool!! I love how they're transparent and reflective! Great gen!
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Once again promising to be your girlfriend for one(1) year (a whole year) if you convince PW to kill xirself
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>>101829428
pw is my gf
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>>101829497
Men can't be girlfriends, fag
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>>101829516
this guy >>101829428 is a man too tho
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>>101829534
I'm biologically female, try again
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Hahahaha! This is still going on huh?
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>>101829552
you are a guy tho
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>>101828658
fp8 retard
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>>101829556
Thanks, nice catbox
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>>101829556
how do you intentionally make gens this ugly, it's like you're using a lora of years of deviantart first drawing uploads wtf
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>>101829556
That catgirl is much cuter than that hag
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>>101829566
Nah. I'll even prove it if you convince PW to rope. I find that faggot extremely annoying and I think it's worth sacrificing some nudes for the betterment of all
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>>101829597
you're a tranny tho
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>>101829583
Hahaha thanks so much!
Super cute elf!! That looks amazing! :D
>>101829585
Just flux :]
>>101829593
Huh so you really do just hate purple witches LOL
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>>101829606
I'm not giving you any more free (You)s until you've made a concentrated effort to get PW to kill himself
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>>101829626
Are you a fat girl or a normal girl?
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>>101829428
>not on the kys list any more
nice
>>101829556
until they get bored desu
>>101829649
goth baddie or not goth baddie, that is the question
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People on civitai are trying to use XL loras with Flux...
>>101829620
You missed the update that Flux runs faster on forge now and uses less vram. You probably don't need the efficiency though
>>101828555
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>>101829620
kill yourself.
>>101829626
see above will you answer this >>101829649 now?
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>>101829552
Please be in London
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>>101829695
Hahaha yeah unfortunately! I guess i'll let them tire themselves out
It's entertaining at least!
Also, I hope your new big data thing came out well! Honestly idk how it works, but it seems super interesting :]
>>101829730
Ohhh cool! I'm glad other anons will be able to use it now :D
I don't, but that's great news!!
>>101829743
I feel like you already heard the song so I won't post it again :]
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>>101829767
shut the fuck up I'm trying to talk to a real girl
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>>101829767
the flickr one? yeah it's going well. on track to be the BIGgest flickr set desu
>>101829746
>>101829771
the dinosaur museum is cool
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>>101829775
LMAO
>>101829814
Ohhhh nice!! How do you use it in SD btw? I've always been super interested but never asked
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>>101829814
Need to shill them and get people to train with them, then you'll get more likes
>>101829829
Just ordered some cats from Pexet
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>>101829743
/Fit/
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>>101829829
same way you use any other dataset, train on it
>>101829862
some llm guy liked diffusion1b, prompt generator soon maybe. ill do some stuff myself as well to get things going
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>>101829862
Hey have overnight shipping! :]
Really cool sword!!!
>>101829900
Ohhh! I really should start training models! I think I tried like a year ago and screwed up so I never did again hahaha
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things pw has never heard:
>"I'm proud of you"
>"I love you" - dad
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I just use the civitai one for Pony. Interested to try Flux, there's a tutorial from the penis lora guy and he uses runpod.
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>PW starts posting again
>All the other avatarfags move to ldg
>Even the thread schizo checks out
Literal thread killer...
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the minerals are upstairs but close enough
>>101829915
keep trying! i have all the training datasets used on civit, i'm going to repackage them to a common format then they'll be good practice datasets
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>>101829934
holy kek.
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>>101829953
Oh cool! Flux is really fun to use!
>>101830032
I will! :D
I'll give it another shot on Tuesday when I can spend some time on it! I've always hella liked your gens! I wanna try out your fashion one as well!
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>>101830051
Have you liked his data?
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>>101830141
That whole part went over my head before, but now that I know it's for training i'm absolutely interested in making a model using it hopefully! :]
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>>101830223
how did you get the hands so perfect?
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>>101830051
training on the fashion stuff would be cool
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>>101830265
shrug, its just a pony mix nothing special.
might be easier with gloves
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>>101830299
I'll let you know how it goes! :]
I hope to see you then as well!
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what are some good checkpoints (or pony loras) to make scenery/room backgrounds? I'm trying to make a simple 1216x832 image of a bedroom and pony just fucks it up. The bed's proportions are always fucked up and god forbid I try to prompt more furniture. Are there any I could quickly try on civitai generator?
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>>101830507
For XL, Mobius works really well!
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stop booping my nose
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dont even think about it
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>>101830642
>>101830652
LOL you should put these in Luma, but reverse so it boops hahaha!
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considering i already smashed my 50m flickr target ima 10x it and say the new target is 500m
still going through explore users' photos and gathering the groups that those users belong to
need to be a member of the groups to see the full member list which sucks but i can grab the top contributors from each to add to the users collection
already put together the scripts for group photos, ill start that up after the users' groups is finished
i could probably just get everything on the site with the photos.search endpoint, each specific query is limited to 4k results but that's np, just use ranges of min_upload_date/max_upload_date
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>>101830933
awesome, i'm amazed that they dont put more restrictions on those public apis
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hmmmm
>>101830741
gave it a try, its queued, not sure how much prompt it needs
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>>101830959
i'm actually using the private api that the site itself uses, you need to apply for an api key for the public one and it returns xml, fuck that. the private one also needs an api key but the site assigns a random one when you visit so it's np
the restrictions are limiting the number of results for any specific query, came across that a few times before, there's always an easy way to get unique queries like timestamps, categories, etc
had to do it for the stock image set with categories/filters, that's why it's a bit biased atm just because of the categories/filters that it had gone through when i uploaded the set
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>>101831020
Omg I can't wait to see it!! Not much, and I usually turn the "prompt enhancement" off haha
I will say tho I have one in queue that's been going for an entire day LOL
I kinda wanna pay for it, but who knows if that'll make it fast enough to be worth it
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>>101831064
yeah it seems to be clogged up "limited 4 free gens per day"
just like suno when it got popular.
can't pay for every service 10$ a month or you're broke quickly.
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if we just had a real/easy widely accepted usable crypto currency by now, we could pay just by usage
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>>101831087
Hahaha exactly! If it guaranteed it'd be super quick then maybe I would but idk!
>>101831119
I'm ok with cash but it's just unsure how fast it'd be! With Suno it's always been quick, even with the trial so I was totally cool with it! Even renewed more tokens
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nf4 vs fp8 tests for flux
>>101831196
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now that the dust has settled, is flux the best model there is right now?
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>>101831311
It's super fun and does what the proompt says for the most part! There aren't any additional things like models and loras for it yet tho, so it's too early to say for sure!
It's fun to play with tho :]
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and with 4bit it actually gets usable without a nasa pc i hear
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>>101831311

It's hands down the best base model and by a large margin.
Once the autismos get their hands on this and start finetuning it, we're getting some incredible local generation.
Thank fuck this thing came out, because I thought that the failure of SD3 would doom us into waiting at least a year or two for a new model, or even longer if the AI bubble pops.
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>>101831458
indeed, but we're still debating whether it's better than fp8, Comfy gave his opinion about that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1epcdov/comment/lhjxxg3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
>I can add it but when I was testing quant stuff 4bit really killed quality that's why I never bothered with it.
>I have a lot of trouble believing the statement that NF4 outperforms fp8 and would love to see some side by side comparisons between 16bit and fp8 in ComfyUI vs nf4 on forge with the same (CPU) seed and sampling settings.

Here's some comparaisons between nf4 and fp8 if you're interested: >>101831196
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>>101831515
it might be still cool if its still better than xl and comparable or even less memory intensive than sdxl

SDXL fp16 < flux NF4 < flux fp16
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>>101831515
>comfy: the q-quality s-sucks that's w-why i didn't bother
>reality: the quality is fine, if not better
of all the possible responses, why did he choose the one that's easily disprovable?
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>>101831674
there is no logical reason to not implement it.
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>>101831691
>>101831699
Comfy being an absolute retard #Episode14585
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>>101831515
i like it, 50 seconds for 20 steps on a 3070, comfy fp8 is like 4 minutes
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>>101831731
that seems reasonable
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>>101831691
to be fair he probably tested nf4 on SDXL before flux even existed, and using nf4 probably destroyed the quality because SDXL is a small unet model, flux is a giant DiT model so it's acting diffently to nf4, and that's the right moment to implement that shit yeah
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>>101831731
what about the quality though, do you feel it's worse or?
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>>101827381
TY Baker,
G'mornin Anons,
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>>101831754
about the same, the big hit is the fp8 t5, and you mostly notice it on text. hopefully we will get a fp 16 t5 version
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>>101831769
Good morning, anon! I hope you've slept well! :]
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>>101831742
yeah nah, the simplest explanation is that he hadn't tested it. saying that he had but the quality sucks is typical comfy, it's shitting on illy for implementing something that "sucks" while acting as if he did it first
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>>101831847
I'm pretty sure he's fuming right now, forge will be remembered as the guy who made flux run on potato PC possible
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>>101831840
G'mornin PW,, got up too early though..
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>>101831865
defcon 1 full nuclear meltdown is imminent desu
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>>101831872
Heya!! :D
Oh no! I hope not too much earlier than intended !
Sometimes waking up is nice tho! I get it though hahaha! Maybe take a quick nap later if it really is too early tho!
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Halp, I'm retarded - when using conditioning concat node it says 'conditioning_to' and 'conditioning_from' -

With my logic, 'conditioning_from' is A and 'conditioning_to' is B? A break B?
I'm concerned about the correct order of the strings.
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>>101831731
>D2
I almost got banned from PoE this league for generating futa hentai with that games characters, it showed me Blizzard is trully on another level
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>>101831926
:^D
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boo morning
ready for another day of technology discussion and positive vibes
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Comfy vs Forge
SET 1: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDY4
SET 2: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDY5
SET 3: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDcz
SET 4: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDc1
SET 5: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDcx

MSI RTX 4080, i5 10400kf, 32GB DDR4 RAM.
Seeds: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Euler Simple. 20 steps. 896x1152. Flux Guidance 3.5, CFG 1.
FP8 Model hash: 275ef623d3
NF4 Model hash: c161224931

Performance for fp8 is identical in Comfy and Forge.

Forge comparisons:
Simple Prompt: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDQy
Simple Text: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDQz
Complex Text: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDUy
Complex Prompt: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDUx
Complex Adherence: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDQ2
Style Adherence: https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDUz

Comfy Seed 0's
https://files.catbox.moe/g8vgs1.png
https://files.catbox.moe/l04z25.png
https://files.catbox.moe/gopn0t.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0caw66.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ppaax8.png

Forge Seed 0's
https://files.catbox.moe/a58j5k.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mne0l6.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mogf5t.png
https://files.catbox.moe/5hoiy6.png
https://files.catbox.moe/25bqeq.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mtwdqs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/kgiirr.png
https://files.catbox.moe/zqm79f.png
https://files.catbox.moe/8dd748.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2hfg23.png
https://files.catbox.moe/tqoz6b.png
https://files.catbox.moe/qk15x1.png
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>>101832012
Good morning! Nice spooky gen haha!
I hope for the same! :]
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>>101832012
very nice style
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So a 4090 is enough to do flux stuff? I wonder if we're headed in the same direction LLMs have gone where even open models are becoming prohibitively memory intensive to use. 4090s will soon be the king of vramlets for imagegen as well.
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>>101832046
And some with fp16 since comfy requested it but forge and comfy do shit differently so it doesn't really prove anything
https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDgw
https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NDg0
If you are here comfy, please just implement nf4 support, if nothing else it will make the vramlets happy.
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>>101832277
Yeah! I have a 4090 and it works very well!
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>>101832277
Eventually the hardware requirements will be massive unless of course, Nvidia stops being a massive jew and comes forward with more efficient and cheaper hardware solutions. Or perhaps someone else will...
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>pedo and schizo containment general
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>>101832367
So which one are you, anon? :]
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https://huggingface.co/StableDiffusionVN/Flux/tree/main/Checkpoint
I think I found it, the safetensor of flux fp16 + fp8 t5xxl (29 gb total), with that shit we'll be able to test the fp16 output on forge and see which one between nf4 and fp8 is the closest to fp16 flux
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>50s flux on 4060

huh, i expected worse
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>>101832430
im the noooticier
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>>101832465
OK, gonna try. RIP my gpu
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>>101832430
i'm the one with a father
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>>101832367
I have a feeling the call is coming from inside the house as a false flag because you don't like someone
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>>101832509
same, I guess we have to go on lowvram mode to make it work? on comfy it goes into that state automatically, is it the same for forge?
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>can easily find 10K x 14k res images of one concept.
>an absolute slog to find 2048 res images of everything else.
fml
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>>101832520
Comfy does, no idea about Forge, never used it until today.
It has this guy though, maybe that does something?
Otherwise we can force it in the .bat
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>>101832504
Oh?
>>101832514
Me too! :]
He actually texted me a recipe yesterday that I gotta try hahaha!
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found a nice labelled source of animals, not highest res though, some are a bit higher like 1500x1000
>>101832525
what are you after
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>>101832527
I think it does it automatically
https://github.com/camenduru/forge
>Forge backend removes all WebUI's codes related to resource management and reworked everything. All previous CMD flags like medvram, lowvram, medvram-sdxl, precision full, no half, no half vae, attention_xxx, upcast unet, ... are all REMOVED. Adding these flags will not cause error but they will not do anything now. We highly encourage Forge users to remove all cmd flags and let Forge to decide how to load models.
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>>101832553
OK good because that was a major hassle with A1111, constantly OOM
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>>101832546
forgot the caption
>Alaskan brown bear mother and cubs standing in long grass {Ursus arctos} Hudson Bay, Canada
scientific name is a nice touch
open directory for the low res images, ez. bit awkward to grab all the captions but doable
considering the directory misconfiguration i can probably find the high res somewhere desu
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>>101832546
Just venting / watching the kettle boil while waiting for everything to finish downloading & captioning.
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>>101832519
It's probably Ran...
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>>101832535
prompt your dad's recipe
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Chat is this true?
>>>/h/8144209
>Comfy and Ilyas were in a relationship for several years during university, so there's unfortunately quite a lot of animosity between them. Personally I hope they get back together, but the last time they met (during a meeting for Stability) there was a huge shitshow.
>Comfy ended up leaving because Stability wanted to buy out web-ui and have the two frontends merged with Ilyas collaborating on the project on a contractual-basis. Comfy had various issues with this, the main one being that it would push out stableswarmui, who's dev is comfy's current partner. So comfy left, destroyed several stability servers on his way out (hence why the SD3 release felt so unfinished) and made ComfyOrg.
>Stability are currently looking to poach Ilyas and still buy out webui, so many people speculate that Stability engineered this situation so they could get comfy out without breaking any contracts and then hire Ilyas fulltime to work on Stability UI.
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>>101832617
That's actually a fun idea hahaha! Just a sec :D
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>>101832617
nta but that's an interesting idea
Here is my chilli recipe prompted
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>>101832630
Most likely this is true especially because someone has posted this on internet.
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>>101832046
very much appreciated
>>101832030
me like
>>101832642
love me some green
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>Mantled howler monkey (Alouatta palliata) resting on branch in rainforest canopy, Osa Peninsula, Costa Rica.
nice captions desu
>>101832597
cool, happy to help if you want it
ive got flickr scrape in progress, up to 64m now
there's probably a flickr group for almost any concept you'd want and i'll hopefully get the lot captioned which will let people filter to concepts, i say hopefully because its looking like there'll be hundreds of millions so it could end up needing a lot of gpu hours
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>>101832646
My fried chicken It's a lot redder than this because I use a lot of paprika
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>>101832654
It makes sense though and comfy is indeed a massive faggot, so it would out...
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>>101832682
>would check out
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>>101832630
>this is just like my fujoshi novels
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>>101832674
For some reason it thinks my anzac biscuits are undercooked and have semen on them
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if you guys continue to talk about fathers and comfys past relationships you will make Julien cry
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>>101832708
My fudge never looks this good
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https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI_bitsandbytes_NF4
Let the fp16 vs fp8 vs nf4 comparaison begin :)
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>>101832765
Happy to test this. How do I into bits and bytes? It's not on the node manager
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>>101832765
>I tested it and it was not worth adding due to the quality decrease!!!!
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>>101832630
Is Stability in a position where they can 'buy out' anything?
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>>101832785
do this >>101832790
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>>101832630
I worked at stability before they laid me off. they did meet and they did shout at each other (the meeting rooms are meant to be 'soundproof' as they're situated in the middle of our open desk workspaces, but they suck). Hard to hear exactly what they were talking about but it got pretty aggressive and you could tell the mood had changed once the meeting concluded. Comfy got the boot shortly after that.
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>>101832630
you know that ugly fox girl comfy always gens? it's actually a throwback to his partnership with illyas. he's constantly trying to get illyas attention, but illyas wants nothing to do with the mentally ill troon that is comfy, so comfy melties and seethes every time he's rejected
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>>101831926
Nap would be good, though, not enough time as it is...too much to do!:)
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>>101832803
why is comfy such a faggot, thoughts?
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>>101832617
Thin noodles marinated in a thick salsa with onion and cilantro, he really didn't specify further but i'm sure he'd add some kind of meat into it, perhaps carnitas or something haha
>>101832646
That looks great, anon! Cheese should be melted but i'm sure it would after presentation!
>>101832674
Nice!! Looks crispy!
>>101832708
LOOOL
>>101832763
Looks tasty! Could use some type of nut crumble as a garnish!
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>>101832859
Hahaha I get that! I find myself in that situation now, but honestly I don't work til late so it's fine! :D
That's a really cool gen!
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>>101832873
oh wow I forgot my gen LOOOOOL whoops!! It's super late hahaha!
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>>101832885
I prefer working early,, understood.TY, nice gen just noticed the PW.
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>>101832898
Ugh I kinda do too cause then you're out earlier! Though I do love sleeping in! It's a double edged sword hahaha!
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>>101832765
Does not work
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>troonmfy stole illyas code for NF4 and removed credit, in desperate attempts to further cement his own retardation
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>>101832993
Is it true? Comfy is a thief and a fraud?
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>>101832993
Probably a desperate attempt to stop people from jumping over to forge. I think it's futile, normies obviously prefer A1111's ui, forge or not.
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>>>101832957
Thin noodles marinated in a thick salsa with onion and cilantro
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>>101833000
>Shocking absolutely no one
>>101833021
I'd bet it has more to do with his weird troon vendetta against illya in general than anything. he literally just finished saying he didn't want to implement it because he "tested it and it was bad" (it isn't, he didn't, comfy just has egg on his face as per usual).
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We're still doing "console wars"?
LOL
Just use what you like, anons! Whatever works best for you :]
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>>101833040
Ohhhh that looks great, anon! :D
I'd give that a try for sure :]
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Illya stole credit again?
https://huggingface.co/blog/quanto-diffusers
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>>101833050
Well right now this doesn't work, and I really want to do a proper comparison for nf4
Comfy are you here? Please see >>101832926
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>>101833087
>again
the first time only exists in comfy's imagination
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>>101833109
He's too busy seething
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Up all night copying and pasting in between wiping his tears
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>>101833109
Hmm fair enough, but people are saying mean things about him for no reason! You know how it is around here
I hope you get it working though, anon!

btw, is anyone else having issues posting? LOL
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does someone have a filter for PW they can pass me? just started lurking recently and it's really grating to scroll through
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cmon niggers, the only reason the general was named "stable diffusion" was because it was the only local architecture that existed, the actual meaning was just "image gen thread"
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>>101833157
If you look for "filter for PW" in desu you'll definitely find it, anon! :]
>>101833166
We're not changing our name, but you can always go to /ldg/ anon! :D
I'm sure it's much more fitting for you!
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>>101832765
It's ova... fp8 is closer to fp16 than nf4

>nf4
https://files.catbox.moe/p91tyu.png
>fp8
https://files.catbox.moe/thvzij.png
>fp16
https://files.catbox.moe/nmcpcu.png
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>>101833146
Yeah the captcha is fucked
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>>101833166
no this is the SAI shilling thread, it always was
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>>101833157
I don't use it but have seen this posted before...
/^PW_/i
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>>101833194
I thought so hahaha! There's a super huge bar on down detector!
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>>101833166
this is the avatarfag containment thread. we all have an unspoken commitment to shitpost in it so it keeps the illusion of activity and they don't ruin other threads in search of attention.
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>>101832993
in comfys logic this would now imply that comfyUI is using forge as backend
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>>101833146
>for no reason
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After generating a certain amount of images, I always run into the issue of A1111 ignoring chances in my prompts. Even using negative prompts to counter the issue doesn't change that.
Is there a cache that I can clear, or am I doing something wrong?
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>>101833040
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>>101833166
So?
People don't want to move to /ldg/ because it's a troll general created by chink shills with several pedo posters. I wish jannies would fucking get rid of that shithole already.
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>>101833228
You have something to say, anon? :]
Speak up
>>101833245
That looks great!
>>101833261
Let's not get rid of it haha
Despite the imglets here, it keeps certain people (who get no (you)'s), and their kind away!
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>>101833207
thanks, didn't even notice the filenames that makes things much easier
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She ate everything again... not like this!
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>>101833243
>chances
changes
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ch ch changes
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>>101833273
>You have something to say, anon? :]
>Speak up
You're pedo apologist.
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can I run nf4 model with fp16 t5 encoder?
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>>101833648
yeah, w/ comfy. Forge is locked to fp8 since you can't set which clip model to use and it uses the one baked into the model
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>>101833227
that's really cool! what model/art style is that?
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>>101833702
are you sure about that? we only got a checkpoint that has everything into it, how to "undo" the fp8 t5 on comfyUi?
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>>101834023
just load the clip separately and connect that to the nodes?
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>>101834038
and the checkpoint node isn't gonna cry if you don't connect its clip to anything?
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>>101834057
nope, it's an output. never cares about outputs not having something linked.
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>>101827440
Because fp8 is a very bad approximation of the bf/fp16 weights, while the BitsandBytes NF4 is a much better approximation while using less bits per weight. Also, the implementation is different which avoid pytorch's broadcasting feature (it's convenient but slower).
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69m images from 64k users
463k groups found
found an extra 60k users from the top group contributors
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>>101834135
it turned out to be a lie >>101833192
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>>101834159
You deserve coffee.
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>>101834163
wow illya lied again. more news at 1:00
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>>101834176
i just made one desu
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Honestly the solution to keep debo and PW in this containment thread is great
You can schizo-out as much as you want here, just stay in the containment thread :]
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>>101834163
>>101834191
It was disproven shortly after as the same poster continued testing and showing nf4 was superior. Though frankly I'd say nf4 looks better in that post too.
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>>101834272
>Though frankly I'd say nf4 looks better in that post too.
why do you all keep missing the point, the goal is to be as close to fp16, and in that game, nf4 does the job worse than fp8.
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>>101834309
You're a retarded nigger anon
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>>101834272
if there's little quality difference between nf4 and fp8 but nf4 can leave space for fp16 t5 then nf4 wins, no?
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>>101834330
shut the fuck up lllyasviel, no one is buying to your shitty lies anymore
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>>101834309
looks so much better to me.

honestly i don't care if it's close to fp16 if the results are better. who cares about how accurate NF4 is to an inferior gen?
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>>101834352
Funny how fags call everyone a schizo
Your father an hero'd because you're a disgrace to his whole family (he didnt consider you as part of it)
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>>101834309
That's your goal, that's not what illya claimed. How long are you going to cherry pick that one example and ignore all the others? Ie.
https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NTE1
Nf4 is a clear cut improvement here
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>>101834384
>who cares about how accurate NF4 is to an inferior gen?
that's a retarded take, if NF4 doesn't listen to half the shit fp16 wants to draw, you're gonna get really bad surprises with more examples, don't come to cry because nf4 doesn't listen to your prompt as good as fp16 would do or would add a third arm because "whatever, who cares about accuracy right?"
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nta
>>101834330
retard
>>101834384
yea who cares how accurate it is compared the the original models intent? im sure it wont pop later in quality.
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>>101834309
post more than 1 image, Anon.

Here's a test using nf4 with fp16 t5xxl clip.
https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NTI1
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>>101834407
>That's your goal, that's not what illya claimed
that's a bait of excellent quality:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/discussions/981
>NF4 may outperform FP8 (e4m3fn/e5m2) in numerical precision, and it does outperform e4m3fn/e5m2 in many (in fact, most) cases/benchmarks.
>NF4 is technically granted to outperform FP8 (e4m3fn/e5m2) in dynamic range in 100% cases.
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>basing your "arguments" on cherry picked examples
lmao
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>>101834408
Fp16 hallucinated a 2nd train in the snow here >>101834407
Seethe and dilate, Trani
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>>101834408
Show me a third arm gen from NF4 and then we'll talk. Until then your 'surprises' just make the gens look better LMAO
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>>101834309
>higher mountains
>fewer clouds
>brighter clouds = brighter sun
>good train light (because it's switched on)
>color matched bumpers
>bitchin yellow stripe on the green doors
nf4 won
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I think it's safe to say that Ilya (ex-boyfriend of Comfy) has revolutionized Stable Diffusion once again.
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>>101834421
Yes, it does outperform it? You're just proving me right.
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>>101834415
>yea who cares how accurate it is compared the the original models intent? im sure it wont pop later in quality.
this, 100% this, accuracy is king and I don't get why so many retards pretend it's not the case
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Why is the solution to all problems to just lie more for the comfy/julien gang?
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>>101834451
>Yes, it does outperform it?
you forgot the "in numerical precision" part, does that feel an outperformance in numerical precision to you retard? >>101834309
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>functional windscreen wipers
>brighter headlights
>not indicating because it's going straight
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>>101834415
>>101834457

>accuracy is king
>adds a shit ton of LoRAs to every gen
>"-b-but accuracy is king though guys!!!"

kek, so transparent
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>>101834483
>>101834483
>>101834483
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>>101834473
Keep seething:
>>101833846
>https://imgsli.com/Mjg2NTE5
>nf4 is closer to my prompt, which should be a live action aka real person
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>>101834497
nta, but your argument here makes absolutely no sense given the context lol
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>>101834497
those pictures have comfy catboxes in ldg with no loras. what are you on about?
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>>101833593
Soooo nothing, got it! In broken english too! Hahaha imagine my shock!
>(you) in the background
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just to fill the thread, don't take this personally
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Best upscaler for general?
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>>101833953
it's CinematicRedmond and upscaled with sd1.5 (Humu, but it doesn't really matter).
>oil painting, impasto technique
Bunch of random words.
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>>101834995
I still use ultrasharp and I'm happy with it
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>>101832249
very cozy
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>>101835458
thanks
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best ai tool outside of sd for decensoring images?
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I'm coping so hard rn because my RTX 4070 is 8gb vram and I can't run flux. Is there a way to run flux with my gpu?
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>>101837378
have you tried the FP8's?



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