S12 2024 editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Shanling M0s - $100• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Tempotec V3 - $200Previous thread: >>102114161
Remeber to
use EQ~! \|^o^|/
Poll: how long do you spend with your pos inserted each dayhttps://strawpoll.com/w4nWWWkMQnA
I am once again asking you to recommend me a pair of white BT adapters that's not memedrop.
>>102147922it doesn't exist
After 2 years the S12 pro is still TOTL
Gato. Redeem.
Cool pos but overpriced.
>>102149990It's like a wired qudelix, I would buy one if it had 4.4mm.
>>102150070Fiio ka17 is that but it is literally the only dongle that doesn't work on my phone, had to return it. And who knows how accurate its PEQ is.
>>102150158>10 bandNot enough but I guess its better than nothing.
>>102150170Only massive pos needs more than that.
>>102150630but i like massive pos
I ordered the Venture Electronics Odo usb DAC from AliExpress.
wdybtposzo now is your time to shine
>>102147686>PMPswould it be valid to make one with galaxy s10e + lineageos or these PMPs from sticky have something special in them?
>Q5k has SINAD down at 81 dBIs it even worth it anons? It doesn't really perform any better than apple dongle and some specs are worse like SINAD and THD.Should I just get the Tanchjim and suck my phone battery dry?
>>102151726SINAD doesn't mean anything. You can have full transparency with 50 and audible hiss with 110. It combines things that shouldn't be combined. 5k is silent enough and powerful enough for IEMs, but you only get it if you need its features, PEQ and wireless. If you already have PEQ get jcally jm20 for phone use, brick dongles are terrible experience. And if you don't have PEQ then get your shit together.
Finally at my endgame. Mest.mk2 and a&k sr35 4.4mm.
>>102151725you're good
>>102147686>want to conoom endgame earbuds en masse>there is like only 5-10 of them in total and TOTL starts at $150Kinda based compared to endless fotm pos autism
>>102147922>>102147962>it doesn't existsadly anon is correct, the only sort of good one is ifi pod which is overpriced, and i have no idea if you can replace its battery in case of need.
IEM equivalent?
>>102152208>>102151822
>>102152208Pos you have or consider getting, your eq target.
>>102147962>>102152136well then white cable it is
Who are good makers for tips? My one earhole is larger than the other and even the largest tips that came with are too small to fit snug. Always feels like it's about to fall out
>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30Budget: $35-40Which one? I like female voices on music :)
>>102152811anons earussy looking like 'cado's coinslot
>>102152822One ear is the virgin, the other is the the prostitute whose been at it for 35 years
>>102152811azla origin or vividtheir sizes are way bigger than avg
>>102152817Rosemary.
What do you guys think of the Google Pixel Buds Pro?
>>102152817q1 pro
>>102151725The major advantage of a pmp is that there is an amp dac built in. However iems are easy to drive and most phones have a basic bitch qualcomm or whatever dac in it already. Android phones with sd card slots are imo better than PMP's because it does much more than just music. If you can find an old V series LG phone with the quad dac then you would be golden.
Black or white?
>>102153823How does the color code work here? Black is for bdsm V shape shouty vocals or white is for squeaky kawaii uguu~~* peaks? Which one will murder your ears with treble?
Sub 20 pos for boomer rock?Chu 2, wan'er, gato, trn mt4 pro, kz zs10 pro?
>>102154376edc pro or libra balanced theyre tuned with extra warmth
>>102154376>>102153241
pos equivalent to this?
To the anon with the M300 I was talking to about stuttering, I may have fixed it. Changed the buffer size to 100 and buffers to 4 in PowerAmp. So far so good. If it acts up again I'm going to try switching to the Hi-Res output. Hope that helps anyone getting stuttering playback on the Hiby M300 :)
>>102154793pos + EQ
>>102152738Imagine the taste.
>>102154793Fox IEM
>>102154793Mega5ESTDMS had the HE-1 for nearly 1 year and he said that https://youtu.be/vWWofORMPZU?t=218
>>102154793nostalgia audio royal camelot
>>102151793>SINAD doesn't mean anythingI would gravitate towards THD as your best indicator of quality but I'm just an EE and SINAD seems to usually be the quoted figure.Also SINAD and THD are linked so are you also claiming that THD isn't important? I don't mean to imply they are the only or even most important measurements.>It combines things that shouldn't be combined.Can you be more specific? Or perhaps link a resource?>PEQ and wirelessI am mostly drawn by the wireless but honestly not sure if its worthwhile.>jcally jm20 for phone useIf I got the Tanchjim it would mostly be for desktop use. I already have one of those openheart dongles but it sticks out a bit much on a big phone which is why I was considering the Q5k instead.>brick dongles are terrible experienceGood to know.
>>102154793S12 pro
A man doesn't need more.
>>102151725>galaxy s10eyeah i still use one in addition to other audiophile shit. just hit play and enjoy music, it works for that>>102152811>good makers for tips?i second azla that anon recs, and get the all-sizes packs. other tips with in-between sizes are good like kbear 07>>102152817>Which one?q1 pro or tanch one>>102153454>Google Pixel Buds Pro?pretty sure they are not well liked>>102154376>Sub 20 pos for boomer rock?absolutely not the last two. probably wanker
vidos brokeon to the snow lotus
>>102147686…is it just me that finds this region to be grating if it’s filled in like the Estrella?Ziigaat Nuo did this and while it’s “detailed” and opens the imaging and stage a little, shit gets fatiguing real fast.Am I just the weird one here or is there a reason some manufacturers specifically dip this region?
>>102155329nta, but for audio and more specifically sources, THD is only a part, with noise being the other as anon said. SINAD is essentially THD+N(oise) and some measurers describe SINAD as such. So SINAD is linked to THD but encompasses more metrics.While this might seem like a more efficient number to measure and judge products by, it does obscure things a bit. THD changes with playback volume while noise isn't, which is another factor to consider. Noise is generally more harmful than THD for sources, since THD of the transducer will generally be an order of magnitude higher. Audiblity of THD is also widely debated, but can be summarized as being mostly inconsequential for most products nowadays. Noise can be an issue with very sensitive IEMs.This is a decent article that summarizes most of these points, although I would still say that SINAD isn't completely unusable, just that people should take the time to learn how to read the graphs instead. https://headphones.com/blogs/features/evaluating-sinad-why-its-not-important
Is there endgame sub $400?I can use EQ
>>102155704>looking past 5khz on graphs>"detailed", "imaging", "stage"lol
>>102155329SINAD stands for signal-to-noise and distortion ratio. Typically it's measured by playing a 1kHz 2V signal. Low harmonics are not as important as high harmonics and ratio of signal to noise is not as important as the absolute level of noise. If it were that simple DACs would be transparent for decades. If you're looking at amir's measurements the most important graph is noise at 50mV(if it's an older review that doesn't have it look at the power vs distortion graph, everything before the "knee" of the graph is noise dominated), the second most important thing is output impedance(high output impedance can change the frequency response of IEMs with non-linear impedance), the third is frequency response of the DAC(some reconstruction filters can roll off some audible frequncies - though you can always fix that with EQ) and the last is power. For headphones power is more important, especially if it's low impedance headphones(amps typically lose max power on sub 30 Ohm headphones). THD of the DAC/amp is eclipsed by the THD of IEMs, and if it's 2nd order harmonic it should be like 20% THD(-14dB) to become audible, the higher the order the more it's audible.
>>102155733>I can use EQany pos, choose what looks coolest (ie no fox or isabella dogshit) and fits well (ie no bulky 50 driver/side pos)
>>102155704you're reading a coupler which is not accurate in that region, making it inappropriate to read into. + you have your own ear resonances which may or may not be in that area, further differentiating what you perceive from reality. pls read op eq guide for basics
>>102155767Nah, 1DD is shit.Next.
>>102155782So you can't EQ gotcha.
>>102155733still depends what kind of sound you like. use op request advice form pls
>>102155782>no mentions of driver typesanon, take your meds please...
thoughts on s12 2024?
>>102155813ok those are actually some sick improvements. planarbros, we ascend even higher into the pantheons of audio...
>>102155813same garbage old planar tuning with peak 2khz ear gain followed by intense treble, this time without any mudbass to compensate, which will probably enhance techs but also be brighter for some
>>102155767But dog IEMs look the coolest...
>>102155801I listen rock, I listen dark trap
Tanchjim Luna, save us...
>>102156014Airpods
Blue vido mogs all
>>102155733Supermix 4
>>102156014Yanyin Canon II, ZiiGaat Doscinco, Kiwi Ears Quintet, Myer CKLVX D41, Simgot SuperMix 4+ EQ
Inverted polarity pos list update:Estrella SuperMix 4VariationsHexaPilgrimAvoid it or be prepared to buy an earhookless 2pin cable!!
>>102147686Is original 7Hz Salnotes Zero good for female vocals and instruments like guitar and piano?They can be found really cheap nowadays and they used to be recommended a lot, so thought I'd redeem
>>102156340ok polarityzobtw wtf is up with the lower mids bump in KE4? reminiscent of singolo. plus i swear these 2dd bass setups are a meme...
>>102156340Just remove the hooks bro. It's more comfortable anyway.
>>102147869No.
>>102156356for those types of music, yes. lower guitar, piano tones may be lacking a bit of weight (mid bass). several aspects besides sound that are cons: fit isn't great (non-contoured body and short nozzle), looks like cheap toy, shitty cable most people hate and also tends to die fast.also a model know to have filters clog. once you hear one side volume get quieter, it's time to replace. so keep in mind it's not so cheap when you factor in eventual cable and filter replacement.
>>102156014Xenns Tea 2, not Tea pro
>>102156428FUCKKKK i cut off the whole cable instead of the memory hook
>>102156547Bro...
>>102156547nigha
Although I doubt any of you are based enough to own a device like the rocker/T6 here's a reminderthese older pmps are primarily designed to drive head denters, so the noise floor is a little high for iems. The rocker is the worst case of all the players I have, but a $2 30ohm impedance adapter fixes it completelyAnd no it doesnt affect the sound in the slightest, other than needing to bump up the volume of course. This $50 posplayer from 2016 has a proper parametric eq meanwhile all the memeshits costing $500+ dont kek
>>102156495Thanks, I will redeem anyway, together with the (over?)hyped edc pro because why the fuck not.>looks like cheap toyNowhere near as much as Gate does though
Eros q/surfans f20 only has an audible noise floor with the most sensitive of iems like kzshits and supermix 4. This thing can drive 300ohm head denters to max volume though so it's forgiven. I usually dont need an adapter but again, 30ohm is more than enough. The fiio on the right has an excellent audio setup, powerful but no noise floor on any iem I've tried. Very impressive
the shit tards do for shit audio
>>102156714>And no it doesnt affect the sound in the slightest, That depends on the iem, for hybrids it'll make a ton of difference because it'll affect all the drivers differently.I've seen people claim it even affects single driver planars but I find it hard to believe since that's just a fancy DD
>>102156356Yes, they take eq very well. I use my zeros with a variations target eq and it sounds exactly like what I want from a cheap harman tuned iem. They can be uncomfortable depending on your ear shape though. Gato sexo is better, hola is much better and epz q1 pro is the best out of all for not much more. You can also wait for a sale and bump up to hexa, sometimes its close to $60
>>102156714>And no it doesnt affect the sound in the slightestWtf? It does affect stuff with nonlinear impedance (2DD, most hybrids, and multi-ba)
>>102156815>>102156844Not easy to find graphs on this, but looks like you need to bump up to at least 50 ohms to really notice anything, and its only on the complete low end. You get more of a difference with tip swaps and fit
>>102156825>Gato sexo is betterUhh I actually had a listen to my brother's Gato and I didn't particularly like it, that's why I thought of something else.>You can also wait for a sale and bump up to hexa, sometimes its close to $60I might do that anyway as I was planning to get something better at 11.11 sale and just get a cheapo stop-gap until then.
>>102156968>Not easy to find graphs on this, but looks like you need to bump up to at least 50 ohms to really notice anythingBro it's already like +3dB bass at 10 ohm, that'd already a massive difference for your ears.
>>102156968On a shelf that big 1dB difference is already audible. 10 Ohm is already too much. But that IEM was designed to be sensitive to impedance.
>>102157060>for your earsnot for his apparently. many such cases
>>102156968lmao fit and tips will not create such huge differencesjust an OI of 10ohm is already enough to impart a massive change
am i better off just getting powered monitors or a cheap class d amp and a pair of passive bookshelfs?
>>102157113Depends on how much you love hiss.
>>102156968>its only on the complete low endFor this specific case of TE:0 Red. Hybrids are way more sensible and the range will vary a lot depending on the crossover design. EM6L is the opposite for example. The point is that changes the tuning for a lot of stuff.
>>102156769>(over?)hyped edc profyi you're just getting trolled by one (1) faggot who loves shitposting here. it'll be fine in the context of $5 or w/e but it's the definition of e-waste landfill shit. kz is a terrible brand and you should avoid them at all costs.
>buy meme product >have meme problems
>>102157077Yeah hearing damage is a terrible thing to get for people in this 'hobby', feel sorry for him.
>polarity meme>Q3 2024my sides
>>102156994>Gato and I didn't particularly like itthen you should be shopping quite a different tuning (frequency response graph), or explain to us what you didn't like to advise you. zero is going to sound mostly the same, as are frankly many budget choices that are tuned similar.
is it a meme when you can objectively measure the difference and it makes an audible difference that people can pass ABX tests? :/
>polarity bros think that audibility is more important than preference(my sides)^2
just eq'ed my pos to an endgame pos, pretty easy desu
>>102157479>things that didn't happenDo tell us more
Nova for $100 yay or nay
>>102157511Sm4 better
>>102157503>have endgame pos>have another pos>eq pos to endgame posnot that complicated, around 98% similar now
>>102157479did you measure your pos beforehand to make sure it was consistent with other models? otherwise your eqing is probably flawed.
>>102157184Keep seething that the glorious KZ EDC PRO is mogging kilobuck iems with ease
>>102157511Yay! Ignore sm4 inverted polarity pos, the bass will hit very odd until you flip the cable
>>102155780711 is accurate up to 10 kHz>>102155704Yeah basically its a telltale point of bad tuned pos if they have 10 kHz crater. That's one of the reasons why mega5est was received so well because it has 10kHz region nicely filled in like many other well-acclaimed pos like variations, etys (although it is fit-dependent) etc.
>>102157535yes, but most of the eq process was for perceptual matching. thankfully they both have similar insertion depths and fit
>>102157541>the bass will hit very odd until you flip the cableOf course it will, it's literally a difference between pushing and pulling your eardrums
>>102157567read op eq guide like anon said
>>102157511get whatever you want, just know that the novas are for big elephant ears and genetic freaks
>>102157586I know how to EQ, but shilling inherently badly tuned pos is a faux pas
>>102157604read the later sections where it addresses measurements and common fuck ups that people like you make when reading graphs
Are there any eartips with super short stems? My ears are really not that deep so I want an eartip that doesn't extend much, if at all. The closest I got to what I wanted was with the TRN T tips, and the small KZ Starline tips, but is there anything that is shorter (almost like tips for TWS)?
>>102157706maybe some wide tips like bgvp w01
etys are so comfy wtf
>>102157511Redeem truthear products. Very good value, sir.
>>102157706spinfit omni
>>102157798>shameless shillingAaaand onto the blacklist it goes
buy gato sexowe pajeets we gato bros
Lunabros, we won
>>102157850There's nothing good about this iem aside for the brand name
>>102157963Class AB and H modes
>>102158002
>>102158028
queen doesn't miss
>>102157963>NO DSP/PEQDOA
moon...BREWED!
>>102158149I need this
>>102158149she's so beautiful bros...
>>102158149>asbestos flavored
>>102158072I'd buy one but my phone's c hole doesn't recognize anything but the charger. And I'm too retarded to fix it.
>>102147686How can I clean my IEM filters? There is no visible wax on them but looking through one of my filters I can see the driver while looking through the other I can't and I have channel imbalance issue which means latter filter is clearly blocked.
>>102158149>Cadmium and beryllium coated ground coffee
>>102158308>too retarded to fix itto your credit, it can just be a phone problem simple as. nothing you can do besides get one with better dongle compatibility
my favorite part about these retarded consumer threads is that i can readily identify anons irl and stay far the fuck away from them
>>102158396Sorry anon I use airpods in public only
>>102157533No such thing as endgame pos. Everything needs EQ. The endgame is EQ itself.
>>102158347The port is fucked, it used to work with my dongle before.
>>102157567>711 is accurate up to 10 kHzIf you genuinely think that you can't hear above 6k.
>>102157819It's ironic shilling. There's a street shitter youtuber that tortures himself with nova with foam tips. Doesn't mean truthear is bad though.
>>102158320What's the IEM model? Filters are usually disposable once dirty. Some cases might be salvageable if you dip them in 3% hydrogen peroxide and let them dry out and you need to apply only the around mesh area otherwise the adhesive/glue will be compromised. But the best solution is to buy new ones and replace them for perfect matching.
>>102157989Aside from the fact that it has very well tuned treble with the only a slightly noticeable peak being around 14khz, which can be remedied with tip rolling.
>>102158624>What's the IEM modelWanker SG.
>>102158490Top tier retardation and denial of IEC standards >>102157627Unless its measured by some ultratard like NGGAR or foam autists and there is a 10 kHz dip on the measurement then 99% it is real and needs to be EQ'd out by hearing, just like taming the 1DD characteristic 12kHz rape peak you find right after 10khz chasm.
>>102158860>>102158908read the eq guide
>>102158860Haha I told you negroes that double flange was the way.I hope you bitches listened to me(they never listen)
EQguidzo...
>>102155704No that's normal its called not having severe hearing damage.
>>102158951Just to clarify, I use the double-flange tips that come with EPZ G10. You're the anon that uses Gato w/ JVC grey 2-flange, right?
>>102158908>711 says there's a 8k peak>my ears say there's a 8k dip>711 says there's a 10k dip>my ears say there's a 10k peakWTF, how could the "the science" betray me like that.
eqzo, please save us...
>>102158906Unlucky, they don't sell spare filters so you need to gamble with aliexpress 4.5mm 500/400 tuning filters. https://aliexpress.com/item/1005004052530517.html
>>102159011ye i’m that schizo. with the normal wide bore they had too much 7-8khz energy and not quite enough 9-10khz. the double flange makes them sound natural af amazing timbre only a slight loss of detail and I really couldn’t give less of a shit
>>102158908711 graphs are normalized to have the length mode in the same location which is not how IEMs work in real life. This alone invalidates everything above 6k. Rigs with pinnae are better in this regard but they still merely represent how that one particular ear hears, not how your ear hears.
EQ guide anon here.I have no clue about audio, everything was written with ChatGPT.
>>102159179What do those numbers like 200 400 500 etc beside the perimeter value mean? Thanks anon
Why is it called mid bass instead of upper bass?
>>102159252Because upper bass is above midbass.
>>102159247those are mesh density values. higher = denser = more damping 200/300 mesh are mostly audibly transparent, so they will have little to no damping on the final fr.
>>102159247I've read the description and it means density apparently nevermind
>>102159263Aren't those the lower mids?
>>102159314Nah that's subtreble.
>>102159226ChatGPT here, I have not written anything in the EQ guide. I suspect the contents were revealed to eqzo in a dream.
EQ Guide anon here.I love penis.
EQ guide here. I was written because some dude couldnt afford a pair of decent iems.
>Budget$500 and MUST be designed by a non-Chinese firm>Intended use (media, source, environment)Music>Frequency response preference and music examplesAll genres of White music, bonus points if black metal is listenable. Needs a strong mid-range.>Past gear and your thoughts on themI want Tangzu Wan'er but more technics and better build. NO CHINESE.
>>102159632you're too poor. 64 Audio U4T is the cheapest american shit that isn't total shit. deal with it. if you seriously want some overpriced dogshit, go ahead and get Ultimate Ears UE350. you're welcome.
>>102159632use eq retard
>>102159632>no ChineseYou’re fricked buddy. Best you can do is IE600 or maybe AKG N5005. 64 audio starts at kilobuck and every other westoid brand is hot trash
>>102159656…Has anyone graphed these?UE released a single, double, and like you said the ue350 triple drivers. I want to see how atrocious they actually are.
>>102159632Final E5000. Think no more.
>>102155813Overpriced when the same driver goes for $60-70 and mesh filters exist
>>102159632>more technicssay no more
Bought Chu 2 solely for the cable as well as ivipiq or Kbear $4 copper color cable, honestl can't remember. Chu's cable is incredibly light but microphonic as fuck. The quest of finding the lightest endgame cable still stands.
>>102159954Shrillgot EW200 has a nice cablel once you cut off the earhooks
>>102159632just avoid repackaged chink shit at full 64 audio price
Looks like the thread is quite lively as of late, so that's nice to see. If there are any questions regarding the guide, let me know, but it seems like most people are fine with it.
Someone say EQ?
>>102160187nostalgia kicked in so hard (6 months ago)
>>102158149I almost be drippin shit goin from work after sippin 2 bottles of green and black tea today... can't wait for that banger to arrive
>>102160187now tell us how to eq the brass rust, filter clog and crap paint out of chu 2
>>102158908explain the hype behind nggar. His measurements were included into autoEQ db or something? Why is this dude with clone coupler relevant?
>>102160258he's shitting on him. nggar has a fucked up methodology so his measurements are god awfulit'd be nice if someone made a database ranking list, a lot of the squig databases are very very bad
>>102160187>needing more than 4-5 filterssuper skill issue
>>102160315>it'd be nice if someone made a database ranking list, a lot of the squig databases are very very badask jaako of autoEQ. before squig.link, it was oratory>crin after mini dsp>
Wow.>Like with Crinacles measurements before, will you provide targets compensated for coupler differences?>I won't. The couplers average errors are smaller than deviations and so calibrating the average error isn't justified.>More details are available at https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/audio-research-stuff/blob/main/Calibration/calibration.ipynbhttps://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/issues/759
>>102158149>Drip coffeeIt's freshly ground coffee for me or I'd rather drink water
The Moondrop Space Travel killer has arrived
>>102160955
>>102160955>>102160972Rat killer has arrived
>>102160955>$25.99>Low latency>More battery>Non shitty case>Better tuning>No cringy waifu voice commandsDamn, it must be hard to be a KZ hater when they make everything better and cheaper!
>>102161144kz now is not a clueless idiots like a kz a decade ago lmaothey really do make fine shit
Transjim Luna already mogged by FiiO chinks>PEQ support>PC/wireless/car mode>Clip>IPS display>cheaper
>>102159883the people at letshower must be smelling their own farts if they think a marked up S12 rehash is going to sell in 2024
>>102161183They were simply retards but now they're pro scammers.
>>102161197Is luna a bt dongle?
>>102161197Pretty nice but i hope that screen can be turned off because christ almighty is it ugly
>>102161197lemme pay more for less features but at least i get a waifu hihi :3
>fiio
>>102161303this but unironicallyonly buy the features you need, everything else should be spent on aesthetics
mark of someone having reached endgame is that they index looks and comfort higher than stock sound quality
A THOUSAND BUCKS?
>>102162277They must be setting the price super high for now because the price isn't determined yet. Ain't no way anyone is gonna pay $1K for a dongle lmao.
>>102162277Placeholder price
can iems cause tinnitus? i had a scare last night where my hearing in my left ear went out for a moment and alls i heard was a ringing. not sure what caused it.
>>102162400Chu 2?
>>102162522tanchjim 4u
>>102162557If I pull them off will you die?
>>102162557I've tried to warn people that 4U is a tinnitus machine, there's a huge resonance in the air frequency. >inb4 omg reading inaccurate 711 treble measurements!!1!Sure, the exact location will vary depending on your in-situ insertion depth and canal length resonances mode, and if you're lucky it won't be as bad but... if it matches your canal it'll be a pretty sharp resonance. A stabbing peak like that can overstimulate the sensitive hair cells in the inner ear. This overstimulation can lead to increased neural activity, which may be perceived as ringing or buzzing, which is a common symptom of tinnitus. I'd stop using 4U for a few days and observe if the symptom goes away, if yes, consider buying E500 or IEMs with safe treble
>comparing past 10khz to harmanIEpfft
>>102163142>20dB over E500>17dB over population average DF HRTF "JM-1 delta"good point, it only gets worse
no one gives a fuck dumbass. keep shilling kz fat fuck
it's so cute... chink always ran out of comebacks
>>102163233kz is a chinese company you retarded failure of a father
so gaymousetranny got mpregged? kid must have come out fucked up yikes
i wish i could get final audio pos but theyre not only prohibitively expensive where im from, their qc is equivalent to gambling in an illegally operated casino
My tanchjim one USB c cable is already fucked. I can cause static to appear if I touch near the connection. Wtf
>>102163306tanch...CHINKED!
try sucking on it like how you suck off tyvan's shrimpdick dumbfuck onionsboy
>>102163306It's been less than 2 weeks. What replacement cable do it get, I know they have a slightly different plug
>>102163245ok and? ur a dumbass boring chink
>>102161303All the waifus these companies offer so far are kind of plain. EPZ custom is still the way to go. Does Tanch Luna come with stickers?
>>102163377probably, see >>102158072
>>102163377what game is that?
>>102160955fuck, thats nice...>>102161197btr17 on its way too...>>102163096>4u poop>>102163174>>102163245>>102163262r******e
>>102163727Atylss. It's a pretty chill mmorpg.
>>102163773i see fyppi booba i immediately like
so red is too big for my smallish ear, is there something similar to this tuning but with a smaller shell?
>>102164025Kefine Delci
>>102164025The larger the shell the better the sound
>>102164037no that's the pricetag
>Budget500,000元 and MUST be designed and manufactured by a Chinese brand>Intended useEspecially this music;https://youtu.be/OjNpRbNdR7E>Frequency responseFor everything CHINESE only music, Traditional Han and Manchurian Songs.>Past gear Used to listening to live music performed by the best Chinese virtuoso specially for me.
>>102161197>PEQFucking finally someone is making an alternative to the Qudelix 5K. If youre gonna make a portable amp dac you might as well slap on a PEQ feature.
>>102164072Question is if it supports shelf filters, which weren't present on some of their othee PEQ devices until a recent firmware update
>>102164061your budget is 70k USD? based
Revisiting the Tanchjim One DSP, and damn is it good. Only complaints are the mediocre cable (now stiff) and the very large nozzles.
Dunu now on my blacklist for shady practices. Good job Moondrop.
>>102147922The Fiio ones are pretty good. They aren't white though so you'll need to buy a can of spray paint if you care that much about it.
>>102161022>active ingredients: corn gluten meal, saltI thought this was going to be something to kill rats, not just feed them.
>>102147686Hey, I know this isn't really a great place to ask this but it's the only place I can think of. So, my grandparents have about a hundred or so vinyl records sitting around being useless. They want to get rid of them and I want to listen to them. I'd like to buy an Audio-Technica Sound Burger portable record player because it's compact and I don't want a big record player that I have to set up and make an event out of to listen to anything. Is this a bad idea? Do any of you anons have any good recommendations for record players if this one won't work?
>>102157850>gato>bunny girl>not cat girlHow could they get something so simple wrong. Bunny is good, but don't call it "gato" and then put a bunny.
Real music only.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6araOMWo4tc
>>102165676Only the realesthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFSjzHXxgo0
>>102159039The peaks just destroyed your hearing and made you unable to hear these frequencies anymore.
>>102159954>Bought Chu 2 solely for the cableand it's not even that good, iirc it has pretty high resistance
>>102165676>>102165820Yes https://youtu.be/atdO6YRg5Cw
>>102161266>sell stuff that works like you claim it does, and cheaply>people call you scammers anywayThe absolute state of this thread
>>102166112*stealth revises your gender*
>>102158149*clogs your coffee filters*
>>102164851They literally don't call it gato, it's gate.
>>102158149>>102160880Even the animu girl seems to just have water in the mug in the bottom left pic. Is that what's inside these, just water filters?
We have fox, dog and witch IEM, catbros, get your shit together.
>>102166187>We have foxThat's not fox, that's just piss iem covered with fox camouflage
>>102155027>DMSyou can't be serious... you actually listen to PMS? he's a motherfucking retard. literally the biggest idiot in this space.
>>102166412>literally the biggest idiot in this space.Nah, the competition is fierce. Zeos wanted harmonicdyne to install pads backwards on his collab. They said no.
>>102166481>ZeosThat guy's a fucking joke. I don't think anyone takes him seriously.
DMS and Zeos would fail blind IEM tests with cheap POS compared to expensive POS (just as anybody else would)
>>102166709nah, i'd pass
>>102166709I'd pass too(cheap sounds better).
pls release not purple tri i3 mk3 before 11.11. pls u dumbos at kbear. you make one non pos in your existence and it's in polarizing purple wtf
The last time I bought >$100 iem was moondrop s8 (2020) and it hasnt died yet. What is substantial upgrade now? Is monarch line meme?
>>102158149Does this come with coffee filters? And do these filters clog halfway through but only on one side?
>>102167121Aful cantor is the latest gigameme
>>102167223>Aful cantor>14 BA per side>mumbo jumbo madeup nonsense tech jargonI'm sold. Let me check my local shop.
>>102164813It kills them by absorbing water and turn into literal cement in their guts.
>>102167844Thats a slow painful death wtf
I want something like this. Ideal size for my ears, charge last a long time, comfortable, sound is good enough for me. But the microphone is pretty shitty, when I talk, the background noise is overwhelming and people can’t hear me in loud environments. What exists that is a similar size and fit, but better quality?
>>102168441KZ Carol
>>102167916Rats are cunning, they always nibble small amount of food so if it's toxic, they'll feel sick but won't die and will avoid it next time. They will never feel unwell after nibbling these, so they will come back again until it's too late.
are ikko oh10's really the go-to semi budget dindu bass recommendation? is this just shilling?what else should i look at?
>>102168676no, never were. just reddit retard shilling. you can get better bass performance on kz libra balanced.
>>102167916Slow and painful death? Just like using KZ.
>>102168676Just look at the recs in the OP, also never buy KZ unless you want to be the victim of shady biz tactics.
>>102166412Memefest is decent, has a real bass crossover. But ESTs will die eventually.
>$24Is there a 4.4mm dac cheaper than this?
>>102148327you're not wrong, its planar T E C H S can still bring much more expensive pos to shame
>>102155733Moondrop DUSK
>>102155813probably not worth the price as it's limited edition, so we can expect a hefty price tag aimed at collectors, but purely tuning-wise it is an improvement, sub-bass is more robust, vocals are a bit more forward without being muddy/tubey, the treble seems more even although it may be a coupler artifact, the only concern is a bit more focus on 5kHz but it probably can be shortbus'd as easy as other S12 pos, of course unless letshower already put tons of foams inside the shell
>>102158149What a cute Yuki! Adorable.
>>102158149How much tech will these increase?
Anyone have the baseus Bowie m2? Thoughts?
>>102160187Now even the $20 Chu 2 is compliant with the current meta.
My Moondrop Chu 1 cable has turned into a fucking goo
>>102159632kill yourself
>Final E500pretty good
>>102169571wish it had better qc, mine just died and replacement filter costs half of the thing itself and now I am looking for another iem
>>102169632that's why Chu 1 was obsoleted immediately after Salnotes Zero came out, because unlike Chu it does not have clogging problems, at least not to the same degree, furthermore if the cable breaks you can just disconnect and replace itChu 1 might have been a revolution in $20 tuning but it's also an absolute trainwreck
is it a dac/amp or a flashlight
>>102169915just clean the filters, mine already clogged once but a good rub with isopropyl alcohol saved my pos
>>102160955Ordered. I'm addicted to TWS.
>>102169960you can turn it off in the mobile app if you connect it to your phone
>>102170003Do you have Space Travel? If yes then when Carol arrives do tell how it compares, especially in stuff like ANC or transparency (if it even has transparency mode)
>>102160955everything reminds me of her
>>102169960>>102170004Mine has a dimly lit red LED even after turning the light off, not a big issue and pretty much invisible in daylight, but still somewhat visible at night
>>102167063just redeem the cadenza4 bro
>>102169979I saw that its only temporary solution beacuse you can't repeat that again (and I am sure I tear something when I was trying to clean it with toothbrush)
>>102166057Yeah. Any other suggestions?
best IEMs under $100?
>>102170940Kefine Delci
>>102170974is there a graph?
>>102170979plenty.
>>102170940any of them + EQ
>>102171020i used to have Moondrop arias, they broke, i bought 7hz Zero thinking i could just EQ them, but no matter what i do the fucking treble kills my ears, and i can't get them close to sounding as good as the arias.
>>102171072maybe you're just retarded?
>>102171072>i used to have Moondrop arias, they brokeMoon....DROPPED!
>>102171072read the eq guide
>>102170940No need to spend more than gato's msrp (20 usd).
>>102169954I still think it was a great deal, you get Spring Tips and a free pair of iems.
>>102170979here bro
are the Truthear Reds still the best for their price?
Do they think they're nvidia or what?
>>102171195Considering you only ever compare EDC Pro to other iems by sound, I'm guessing it's comfort isn't all that great.
>>102163330Bump
>>102171231Do you want high-quality audio, or are you a broke boy?
>>102171197>stillwere they ever..?
>>102147686Would you see any benefits from buying a DAC dongle if you're using a budget IEM?
>>102171380what's wrong with them?
>>102171423What do you think those benefits are. If your current source hisses a dongle can fix it. If it's not powerful enough a dongle can also fix it. Low output impedance only matters for multidriver IEMs.
>>102170940$100? EDC Pro, D-fi, Trio, and Carol for TWS needs and you still have some money left to buy something else
>>102171423If you have a phone that doesn't have a headphone jack, you'll benefit from being able to use the cheap IEM, and possibly listen to music with it
>>102170940$10 more and get em6l
>>102171423as >>102171455 said, depends on what iem we're talking. A budget iem still can be multi-driver like KZs (setting aside what most think of them) and could benefit from it. Headphone jack in phones or laptops, especially budget ones, tend to come with audible noise that a dac would usually get rid of.
>>102155715>Noise is generally more harmful than THD for sources, since THD of the transducer will generally be an order of magnitude higher. Audiblity of THD is also widely debated, but can be summarized as being mostly inconsequential for most products nowadays. Noise can be an issue with very sensitive IEMs.>This is a decent articleThanks anon.>>102155759>If you're looking at amir's measurements the most important graph is noise at 50mV(if it's an older review that doesn't have it look at the power vs distortion graph, everything before the "knee" of the graph is noise dominated)Right>high output impedance can change the frequency response of IEMs with non-linear impedanceWhich only matters for multi-driver IEMs correct?>THD of the DAC/amp is eclipsed by the THD of IEMsHuh good to know.
>>102171542How's EM6L vs Hexa?
>>102171542and 3k shouty for days
>>102171573Simgot shout vs truthear dogshit QC
>>102171609>dogshit QCThat sounds like an every chi-fi brand issue and not just truthear specifically...
>>102171555>Which only matters for multi-driver IEMs correct?There are exceptions. There are single driver devices with non-linear impedance, like open-back DD headphones and some BAs, but you need huge OI to affect them. And if a multidriver IEM has a fake crossover where all drivers play everything it will also have flat impedance. You'll need to check the impedance curve of the IEM.>Huh good to know.The best IEMs are around 0.1% THD, average BA pos is around 1% 3rd harmonic dominated, so it's worse than it looks. But to illustrate how little this actually matters most speakers have nearly 100% THD on subbass.
>>102171573Hexa is more neutral, and a bit boring imo>>102171586If you think that's shouty then listen to ea500lm
>>102171573Don't listen to him he gets paid to shill shitgoy.
Daily reminder that techs are what you eat.
>>102171763I eat ass.
Why pay for overpriced pos when you can just hit play and enjoy
>>102171697Planars also seem to be affected non-linearly by impedance for whatever reason, I know KZ isn't the best example of anything, but it is a single driver planar regardless
>>102171799>hit play on your player while leaving the jack socket empty (since you didn't buy any pos iem in the first place to plug in there)>enjoy the silence
>>102171248He doesn't compare other IEMs to edc pro. He compares it to an IEM that stopped being produced a nanosecond after reviewers were sent their samples.
>>102171812I think PR2 V2 and PR3 have an electronic filtering circuit in them and that might be where this is coming from.
The techs are on having an empty wallet.
reminder that for a human hearing below 10khz there are 9 octaves and above 10khz there's only 1 octave
>>102170974Meh too boring and safe.
new bread >>102172370
Guys.... I am an uppity weeb with eclectic, shit taste. I am trying to become more toxic by way of outwardly appearing more esoteric, nonplussed, and elitist. Will these 'moondrop' IEMs (with associated pedophilic anime imagery) help achieve this effect? Please respond.
