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>>102238590
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super
>1440p: RX 7800 XT
>gpus by organized vram instead of performance and features
Tell me you've never owned more than one brand of graphics card without telling me you've never owned more than one brand of graphics card

epic red arrow!

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>>102238635

>>102238580
I rather they print GPUs on the process, if Intel doesn't go bankrupt in a few years they can give us some amazing GPUs with those fabs of theirs.

is it gonna be a holiday release for the 8000 series or am I better off just getting a 7900 GRE?

>>102238599
Unfortunately, that is normal in the industry unless you're buying a high end monitor. Every monitor regularly sources multiple panels so production isn't disrupted. Only the best panel sourced is advertised. I'm sorry you didn't know that, but that is always how LCDs have been.

I haven't bought a Dell monitor in years, but in my experience they label the different panels. The model number indicating which panel you get is labeled on the sticker with something like an A or 0A addition.

>>102236304
I know as much, but the cables that came by default with the fans don't reach the pins in the mobo, so I need an adapter to actually connect them.

does it matter if I buy a different RAM brand than my first one, as long as it's still 16GB and DDR4? I'm seeing a few variations of those two in Kingston for example so I'm not sure.

Also, is the RX 7600 a good card for general gaming or am I cucked out of stuff like DD2 and CP2077 for example.

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>>102238635
>12gb
>1440p
lol lmao even

>>102238635
Nvidia has no vram and vram matters.

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Still making plans. With an SFF PSU i can put a front fan in... Im thinking the fan at the bottom perhaps to prevent the mythical vortex? ir at teh top to feed the PSU?

>>102238847
you should be okay at 1080p
different kits matter if you want 100+fps, udner that JEDEC(defaults) RAM settings are fine and will work with different sticks well enough, if target is to save money it's acceptable, it may even work with EXPO/XMP if you are lucky

>>102238874
out fans on top will make your temps worse. you want one directional air flow.

>poorly optimized games run poorly
w-w-whoa??

>>102238885
>>102238885
bottom to top

I don't trust the results I get on google searches when it comes to hardware.
Does anyone know what the best gaming mice are in terms of lowest acceleration in 2024? I care more about having low/no acceleration than about dpi or anything else.

I set my new TV that does 4k 144hz up and holy fuck. TVs have come so far. DLSS is unreal on a TV, you can't even see the artifacts if you sit far away. 4k 90-100 FPS in Horizon Forbidden West and the 4070ti Super only uses 200W power with an undervolt. Core temp only hits 52C and hotspot 62C so it doesn't even turn the PC into a space heater. Absolutely incredible, I think that's the closest I've come to a chub from technology.

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You retards have no argument and you get shit on every time, real masochists to come back time and time again

>>102238854
Let me quote myself:

>hogwarts with rt and frame gen
RT and Frame Gen are considered the baseline now? That's a change. In that case no Radeon card can play Hogwarts with highest settings, as FSR Frame Gen isn't supported. Additionally none of them can use with RT at good image quality (and remember that DLSS is better than native in Hogwarts, while FSR is worse than native). Heard it here first folks, the AMDrone himself has admitted that no Radeon card can be recommended, as none of them can play Hogwarts with the highest settings.

Yet you retards even recommend the 7800 XT for 1440p, and it's not even good enough for 60 FPS with FSR on max settings >>102238635 in games without hardware RT

>>102238864
Performance matters and the 7800 XT is sub 60 FPS at 1440p even with FSR in the latest games. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that VRAM doesn't matter when the card is already too weak for its stated purpose

>>102238635
Too slow to make the thread this time too bad so sad.

>>102239054
>You retards have no argument and you get shit on every time
You lie every time. Nvidia has no vram and vram matters.

Where are all the mini LED monitors? I swear that 2 years ago there was at least a handful of them, now there’s remnants of announcements for these “new” monitors but no available stock. Did freakin’ OLED just kill their development? If so that’s just disappointing.

>>102239054
your pic states literally everything but 4090 can't reach 60 fps in nogwarts 1440p
are you the best shill nvidia can offer?

>>102239065
stop replying to it, retard

>>102239086
Isn't the AOC Q27G3XMN a mini LED? See it recommended so surely it's not nothing.

MSI M482 gen 4 2TB SSD is $100
About how low did the 2TB SSDs get last year? I can't remember.
Is this about as low as they'll get now? I have a 1TB gen 4 SSD for my OS and a 500GB gen 3 for large game installs/etc. I'm not sure if I need to get the 2TB unless I'm sure prices won't fall again.

>>102239054
>Performance matters and the 7800 XT is sub 60 FPS at 1440p even with FSR in the latest games. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that VRAM doesn't matter when the card is already too weak for its stated purpose
But wait, people claimed 7800 XT was a 1440p card and even gave people shit when they said it's a 1080p card!

>>102238590
what are your guy’s thoughts on a pc+macmini for gaming and the mac for editing/streaming
the mac mini with the m4pro is coming soon and i’m going to get a pc during holiday season. someone suggested two pcs for gaming and one for streaming but it would need too much power consumption when the current macmini tops at 185w and a flagship gaming pc caps around 850w

>>102239144
i remember last black friday the samsung 990 pro 4tb was 250
it was an insane deal

>>102239188
>and a flagship gaming pc caps around 850w
Don't buy a 14900k/4090 combo? You could easily cap around 500-600w peak with better choices

>>102239188
Great setup. I have a PC + MBP myself. I would still stream on a Windows PC however.

>>102239199
i want a cpu with the fastest single core performance and the best gpu. it would be for gaming then the mac mini to stream it because the current m4 single core performance is the fastest consumer cpu

>>102239188
You don't actually need a powerful PC to stream unless you're trying to do CPU encoding at 4K. Actually just any small PC with an Arc A310 can stream at 4K.

>>102239144
The prices won't drop, the only

>>102239214
yeah but the power bill from a second pc, i want to keep the cost of running the setup as efficient as possible

>>102239218
>i want a cpu with the fastest single core performance and the best gpu
>>102239224
>i want to keep the cost of running the setup as efficient as possible
You can't have both

>>102239222
>The prices won't drop, the only
*the only competition is older technology

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>>102239062
I'm just as happy with exposing the Radeonfriends' IQs >>102239065

>>102239091
So then why is the AMDrone using Hogwarts with RT and Frame Gen >>102238854 as his argument if he knows Radeon fails even worse than Geforce? Because he's low IQ, just like you

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>>102239144
>About how low did the 2TB SSDs get last year? I can't remember.
$27 for 2 1TB SSD's, or $75 for a 2TB SSD last summer.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4cG3C/silicon-power-ud90-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-spatium-m450-1tb-ssd-now-250

>>102239237
You lie every time. Nvidia has no vram and vram matters.

>>102239238
>https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-spatium-m450-1tb-ssd-now-250
>The purchase is supported by a limited 5-year manufacturer’s warranty from MSI that voids if the drive reaches 600TBW
So it doesn't have a warranty, gotcha.

>>102239237
how the fuck are consoles playing these games when 1600 dollar gpus can barely push it

>>102239256
There's no visual difference between high and ultra (or cinematic whatever they call it) settings except it halves the framerate. Also consoles don't do RT.

the 5090 is 600W and the 5080 is 400W

>>102239234
i meant a flagship pc for the gaming and a mac mini for the streaming part

continuing from the last thread >>102237689 >>102238908 would this monitor be worth getting (though I probably should wait until the price drops down to 600$ again based on the price history) https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b or should I keep looking?

>>102239275
i knew it would be 600w when the new 12vhpwr cables capped at 600w
also the new cableless motherboard’s pcie slot caps at 600 as well

>>102239254
Perfect for the average gamer. I have around 40TB written to a 2TB disk in 18 months. If you're a power user you can just buy a drive with better warranty, or replace them, since they're so cheap anyway.

>>102239285
If you're playing mostly games such as overwatch it's a good monitor. If you play mostly single player games or non-fps games a 4K monitor or cheaper 1440p monitor while you save for a 4K OLED is a better pickup.

>>102238590
What does OP have against Samsung?

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>>102239245
>You lie
I bet that sounds good in your head

>>102239256
30 FPS, much lower settings, and extremely low resolution with garbage FSR. You can look at Digital Foundry's analysis

>>102239271
There's no hardware accelerated RT in that Wukong benchmark. Radeon performs even worse in Wukong with RT than it does in pic related

>>102239352
You lie every time. Nvidia has no vram and vram matters.

>>102239321
shit ddr5 and overpriced drives

>>102239352
Except I didn't say the benchmark was running RT. The anon said "games", and that's one of the reasons "games" can run on consoles, because they never have RT except maybe reflections. I also didn't say anything about Radeon.

This is just another example of why you shouldn't be in this general.

>>102239301
>Overwatch
Sir I have no intention of cutting my dick off. The issue isn't that I can't afford the monitor, it's just that I can't justify dropping 1k+ on a monitor, but I really do want to try out an OLED, is it really not worth it if it's not a 4k?

Why deep cool become bad all of the sudden?
I mean they have good cheap stuff.

>>102239395
Deepcool is banned in the US because they sold some office computers to a Russian train company that the US identified as part of the war in Ukraine. I assume people aren't recommending them because they know that giving advice about those products is useless when you can't buy them.

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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-scraps-18a-process-for-arrow-lake-goes-with-external-nodes-likely-tsmc
>20A cancelled
>but don't worry we are just leap frogging it

https://www.techpowerup.com/326274/broadcoms-testing-of-intel-18a-node-signals-disappointment-still-not-ready-for-high-volume-production
>However, as Broadcom received the initial production run from Intel, the 18A node seems to be in a worse state than initially expected. After testing the wafers and powering them on, Broadcom reportedly concluded that the 18A process is not yet ready for high-volume production. With Broadcom's comments reflecting high-volume production, it signals that the 18A node is not producing a decent yield that would satisfy external customers.
maybe leap frog 18A too

OK the MoBo i wanted really isn't good for my build due to the main PCIE slot being in the wrong place.

I need to choose a new one
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/64698/gigabyte-b650m-gaming-x-ax-ddr5-motherboard
>brown
>has m.2 heat sinks built in which is good
>$240

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/61860/asus-tuf-a620m-plus-ddr5-wi-fi-motherboard
>620
it's only for a 7700, does that matter?
>no top VRM cooling

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/63096/asus-prime-b650m-a-wi-fi-ii-ddr5-motherboard
>no top VRM cooling

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/65493/asus-prime-b650m-a-ax6-csm-wifi-ddr5-motherboard
>no top VRM cooling
>ugly rear VRM cooling

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>>102239380
>Except I didn't say the benchmark was running RT
And I didn't say you did, now did I?

>I also didn't say anything about Radeon.
No you didn't, but I did. Why don't you want me to talk about Radeon? And aren't console Radeon, which is one reason they often don't use RT?

>>102239144
I bought the crucial T500 2TB for $100. It's about the same performance as a 990 pro though and not a cheap brand; the cheaper brands were less than that.

>>102239439
don't buy a board with discrete mosfets

>>102239459
>discrete mosfets
i have no idea what that is

>>102239464
Ok

>>102238905
with one out and one in on the sides, it will create a vortex of hot air in the middle

>>102239448
>And I didn't say you did, now did I?
No, retard, do not reply to me like that. It doesn't matter why you want to talk about Radeon, I did not mention it and it didn't belong in that string of replies suddenly. It's understood that you aren't supposed to suddenly bring up your Nvidia obsession as though you're making a point or clarifying something. I said something useful to another anon and you didn't.

If you weren't an insular Nvidia fanboy, you'd understand that. That's why you don't belong in this general.

>>102239464
He's saying the VRM is bad because they give poor performance when they run hot and they're really bad at stepping up and down voltages even if they don't get that hot. You're limited on what CPU you can put in there lots of times because high end CPUs won't be able to run at their rated performance.

>>102239425
20A++++++

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I need a low spec PC that I will only use for web browsing and light shit, but I also want to run my own media server in the house. Should I get a dedicated NAS and forget about the PC or just buy a cheap PC with tons of storage?

>>102239506
dedicated NAS is expensive as hell

>>102239506
Define "run a media server". You mean you're going to watch media with your desktop PC at your desktop? If so then a singular computer is almost always cheaper than two computers.

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>>102239425
>>102239498
how could this happen?! intel hasnt failed to deliver its previous nodes on time right?!?!

>>102239425
I wonder if they could have gotten it done if the US had actually handed out the Chips act money they promised.

>>102239506
get a used office computer for $100-200

>>102239528
they did, it's measly $20B, to run a cutting age fab from scratch you need $120B at least

Not sure where else to ask, but what is that program everyone uses that shows the frame time graph?

>>102239551
Mangohud

>>102239551
Rivatuner?

>>102239528
CPUs take years to design and test after a node is selected so probably not

>>102239548
They in fact have not. The US government has given exactly $0 of the $50 billion they promised to Intel, TSMC, and Samsung. The Biden administration is demanding that the three companies hire more black people. They won't get paid until they do.

>>102239551
Radeon Drivers.

>>102239562
>The Biden administration is demanding that the three companies hire more black people. They won't get paid until they do.
what is the real reason?

>>102239574
The official reason is diversity, but that means black people. There's plenty of other minorities at those companies.

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I love videocardz comments

>>102239581
>The official reason is diversity,
america u ok in there?

>>102239489
so which motherboard should I get?

>>102239620
MSI B650M Mortar

>>102238949
>google
rape yourself

>>102239620
The only brand of the big four that has consistently made good B650 and B650E motherboards is Asrock. Having said that, avoid the Asrock B650M H/M.2, it's a very popular board because it used to cost like $110, except it doesn't anymore so it's not actually worth buying as opposed to better motherboards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57X2FygcqLE

Note that the B650E is essentially there for upgrade potential, as it features PCIe 16x 5.0. This means it will accept future graphics cards without bottlenecks, meaning you can later upgrade without worry. Otherwise B650 is fine.

>>102238949
>in terms of lowest acceleration in 2024?
can't you disable it entirely in software? I like acceleration, it's an art, you can learn to flick mouse to a point on the screen faster than without it.

>>102239668
>Asrock B650M H/M.2
HDV/M.2*

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>>102239489
>I said something useful
You didn't give the two biggest factors that allow consoles to "run" modern games: substantially reduced input resolutions and 30 FPS input framerate. I don't think what you said was particularly useful; it was some kind of cop out answer

>>102239551
There are a couple of good overlays, including MSI Afterburner + RTSS and Intel's PresentMon

>>102239697
>I don't think what you said was particularly useful
Fuck off and go suck Jensen's dick somewhere else.

>>102239671
Even when disabled in software mice will still have some due to errors in tracking. A better sensor will have less.

>RTX 5090 -> 550W (RTX 4090 @ 450W) = +22% Increase
>RTX 5080 -> 350W (RTX 4080 @ 320W) = +9.3% Increase
If any of this is true, blackwell not looking good for the x2.5 claims, I'd sell nvidia stock right this moment.

>>102239717
>I'd sell nvidia stock right this moment.
they're selling this silicone to enterprise for 4x the gaming margins

>>102239715
man, you are super sensitive, personally I don't care if it's +-2mm on target

Will current gen and older gpu prices get better at all when the next generation drops? Is it worth waiting?

>>102239724
yes, and what if they sell x10 less this generation? AI start ups begin to die left and right

>>102239717
you should be buying the 10% dip after the DoJ tore them a new one

>>102239731
If the prices do drop, it will happen the same way RDNA2 and Ampere prices dropped, which is to say only like $10/month for 10 months.

>>102239707
I didn't say anything about Nvidia, retard

>>102239731
Nvidia typically don't do official price drops on older cards, but retailers will want to get stock off their shelves and start slowly cutting to make room for new stuff. Generally happens a week or two after announcing a new gen. Like the other anon said, it'll likely be a slow trickle rather than a sudden cut.

>>102239777
See
>>102239352
Or any of your other posts.

>>102239795
It doesn't matter why you want to talk about Jensen, I did not mention it and it didn't belong in that string of replies suddenly. It's understood that you aren't supposed to suddenly bring up your Nvidia obsession. I said something useful to another anon and you didn't.

If you weren't an insular Radeon fanboy, you'd understand that. That's why you don't belong in this general.

>>102239806
>It doesn't matter why you want to talk about Jensen, I did not mention it
We all know that all you think about is Jensen's dick.

>>102239731
depends how fast next generation is, if it's a radical change prices will drop, if it's ampere-2/RDNA3 going to be a slow slow price change

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>>102239717
>blackwell not looking good for the x2.5 claims
Then they will substitute reality for their own.

>>102239774
Actually now that I think about it, if Battlemage upsets the market then I might be wrong. I don't think it will, though.

>>102239624
PCI slot is too low. working with tight tolerances in a borderline SFF case

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What's the smallest case that can fit an NH-D15?
I want to make an HTPC build, but I also never want to hear the thing
Alternatively, I could get the NH-P1, but that's taller so much more restrictive

>>102239836
will enterprise swallow the pill same way gaymers do though? sure didn't work for intel when EPYC gained traction

>>102239866
Enterprise has completely given up on energy efficiency because they're all in on the AI meme. I'm not kidding, it's not just graphics cards.

So long as it isn't worse for energy efficiency then enterprise loads that aren't about AI will still buy the new hardware.

>>102239855
https://ncc.noctua.at/coolers/NH-D15-2/cases/all

>>102239873
>Enterprise has completely given up on energy efficiency because they're all in on the AI meme.
my train of thought wasn't the energy concerns, the fact that they had to increase TGP indicative that performance of the cores didn't rise much, and it shouldn't node is practically the same
5nm->5nm+++ in reality

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Should I buy the GPU now or wait for next year if I am buying the rest of the system this week? My current one is very VERY old.

I am not sure about the cooler too. Assassin IV seems about the same in terms of performance and costs 90 euro instead of 60 and the only Thermalright Phantom Spirit in this country is the 120 EVO which is inferior in every way and costs 70 euro.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgkggcBBW8Q
What is your experience with these 3 coolers?

The B650M-HDV/M.2 is 105 euro but I am concerned about the distant future. Ideally I would upgrade to the last AM5 CPU years later and not need a computer ever again and the very first AM4 boards got fucked and were incompatible with 5800x3d. Will the Pro RS will avoid that for 135 euro or do I stick with the cheapest PCIe 5.0 x16 lane for around 200 in case I upgrade the GPU in like 2030? Do you think it would even matter if the main lane supports 5.0 or is it simply not worth the price?

The ram is supposedly EXPO enabled and has the logo on the box even though I couldn't find the exact model in the QVL

Lastly I am not sure about PSU. Since I am going for an AMD card do I need the ATX 3.0? Doubly so if the motherboard may not have PICe 5.0. Aside from pic related the only real options are the Asus Loki 750W at 225 euro/850W gold for some reason at 250 OR dark power 13 750W/850W for 210/250 respectively. Is the extra rating worth the double price? Supposedly titanium is much less wasteful.

>>102239506
get a minipc. check out youtube for reviews on minisforum or whatever the best value minipc is these days.
dedicated nas just for a media server is overkill and overpriced

>>102239928
What GPU do you have and what games do you plan to play for the next year? If you're concerned about upgrades, then you should buy a B650E motherboard like the Asrock B560E Riptide or Steel Legend. If you plan on never upgrading, then that build is fine as per your pic. Regarding the PSU, you should ask yourself if you would ever buy a high end GPU like a Geforce 4080 in the first place, that's what those PSUs are for.

>>102239928
splitting hairs over 20-30 euros for a 1.5k euro build
why?

>>102239928
i run a 7800x3d and a 4080 on a 750w corsair psu that is atx 2 using corsair type-4 12vhpwr

>>102239986
He's talking about trying to save about 150, not 30. And he's talking about timing a GPU upgrade correctly.

>almost no am5 motherboards have 6 sata ports
What the actual fuck? I'm not planning on building a new PC but that would have sucked royally as I must have 6.

>>102240032
Nobody NEEDS I/O goyim

>>102240032
SATA is dead, buy a PCIe card or M.2 adapter.

I don't know why you need 6 SATA ports anyway. Large drives aren't expensive and if you're doing RAID/zRAID then nowadays that belongs on a NAS.

>>102240032
i turned my old (budget) 1155 board (matx) with 6 sata ports into a server

my high end full atx x670e board only has 4 sata ports! SAD! (but it does have 4 m.2 slots)

>>102239977
Pretty much anything from indieshit to AAA slop and maybe very minor productivity but the programs I would be using don't warrant a 7950 X3D
>B650E
Isn't the B650 superior in every possible way? Maybe I can find a Steel Legend for 200 which caught my eye and was praised by reviewers but it seems to be out of stock everywhere. B650E is widely available for 220 for inferior VRM which shouldn't matter for X3D CPUs

The plan is to buy a platform that will last until the components give out and it can't even be repaired. It's a very realistic goal considering my current one is more than 10 years old and still works. Had I not cheaped out too much I could push it's life to 15 maybe more years of service. As for upgrading the goal is to maybe upgrade to the most powerful chip some time after AMD moves on to the next socket and upgrade the GPU even later if the rest of the system supports it hence the 850W PSU

>>102239986
In local currency 30 euro is not a negligible amount and it adds up quickly considering the national average monthly income per person is around 500 or 1k in the capital. It's not that I can't afford it but retailers are trying to scalp on some items while selling others at or under MSRP. I would like to know if the 20-30 euros is too much for the less important items

>>102240068
>I don't know why you need 6 SATA ports anyway. Large drives aren't expensive
I have 5 HDDs, I need my mass storage for porn and movies.

>>102240095
turn your current platform into a server that can handle all that and more when you inevitably upgrade

>>102240095
No you don't. You'll own nothing and be happy.

>>102240095
just daisy chain them lol

>>102240091
>Isn't the B650 superior in every possible way?
No? The B650E is just the B650 except the PCIe x16 slot is better. The Steel Legend is probably the best for upgrade potential, but it sounds like you're just looking to buy it all in one go and sit on that.

If you have a 10 year old GPU then buy a new one now.

>>102239254
that's a better than average SSD warranty

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>>102240154
Asrock specifically has
>2 more cores that are 20A weaker
>1 less PCIe lane (I probably won't use it because fuck extension cards)
>2 less usb ports
>2 less sata drives
For 20 euros extra. Of course it would be worth it if I don't get fucked on BIOS updates that may or may not only be pushed on certain newer models to add support for the last generation of AM5 chips
The main thing that was stopping me was the the upcoming new generation. Obviously I am keeping whatever I buy for another 10+ years if I can and if the projected uplift gives better performance for less money then I can try and wait until January. What are 3 months to a decade? With that said if it's going to be another shitshow that only sees 5% gains and forces the buyer to wait for weeks before flaws are discovered and maybe fixed I may as well go now

>>102240235
lmao nah, Samsung, WD, etc all have real warranties. That's half of the usual, and you can find affordable ones that are better.

>>102240236
If you're just comparing those two specific models, yeah the VRM is better on the B650E and you get less I/O. But in general the B650 isn't better than the B650E when comparing boards was my point.

>>102239717
>>102239836

I'm glad I just bought a Super card. I absolutely hate all these fucking GPU YouTubers. They flip their position from "OH SHIT THE NEW GPUS ARE GONNA BE A MASSIVE GENERATIONAL LEAP" to "keep your expectations in check" every other week and also "Blackwell is coming sooner than you think" to "sorry bros it's delayed into next year"

>>102239717
Something something dlss something RT

>>102240403
If the 5090 is pulls a 4060 and can only show better results over the card it is replacing through DLSS then that'll be the funniest shit.

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>my 2080 ti still slices everything i throw at it
idg why people upgrade every gen when the games are still being made to consouls
ill upgrade whenever ps6 comes
you are worse than iphonefags

>>102240491
>ill upgrade whenever ps6 comes
Upgrading right after a console launch is retarded. The best time to upgrade a GPU is 3-4 years after a console launch when price/performance jumps back in favor of PC aka right now.

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Those who have KC3000 or any other Phison E18 SSD should update the firmware to fix random read performance degradation bug

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>>102240518
>using a PC weaker than a console for 3-4 years

>>102240556
>PC weaker than a console
no such thing

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/c49WWt

>>102240571
not true, the 2080ti is roughly the same performance as the 6700XT and the PS5 is roughly the same performance as the 6700/6650XT/7600. so only about 10% weaker than the 2080ti.
the PS5 Pro is going to be out soon and will be 7800XT/3080 tier, expect the PS6 to be 4080/7900XT tier.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8Xgw9c

Will be used for work and gaming, should I just go with 7800x3D? Main program at work is only uses single core.

Just looking for a solid rig to cover me for the next 5 years.

>>102240608
>is only

Sorry lads nearly end of wagie week...

>>102240531
nta but heres a link if anyone is interested in checking if their ssd uses that controller
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/search/?controller=Phison%20E18

where did you find out about this issue?

>>102240606
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/c49WWt
oops forgot to make my post, reckon this is worth listing for $600 and taking $550 for it?

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>>102240618
Checked the Kingston software if there is any update pic related then googled for more info about it and found this reddit thread with more details about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1f1piwf/psa_phison_e18_based_ssd_owners_update_your/

>>102240608
at that price, just get a x670e steel legend
never heard of jw computers before but ive always just shopped at the same old stores (pccg/mwave/scorptec/msy etc)

>>102240641
looks like it only affects zen2/3?

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So I did a turbo autism and ripped the CPU out of the AM4 socket since it was glued to the heatsink. I've never had this happen before, so I'm fairly confident in blaming the exact type of thermal paste. Everything still works (mashallah) but I still need some paste.

Which paste brand doesn't turn into glue after a while? Or which one does, so that I know what to avoid? It was the stock heatsink and I feel like it was the pre-applied stock paste layer, but I'm not sure.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/air-cooling/cooler-accessories/thermal-paste

>>102240680
its just a thing that happens with PGA cpus, its one of the reasons why PGA is no longer used

>>102240680
Cheap arctic paste will do the trick.

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>>102240606
>wait for ps6
>buy an used 5080 or whatever for pennies
>set for life till ps7 or death
point still stand

>>102240618
>firecuda 530 on the list
oh no no no no

>>102240632
M8, it's worth $450 AUD. Of course. What are you even asking

>>102238590
With a bottom mounted PSU which way should the fan be facing if there is no vent on the bottom?

Do I just have the fan on the top?

>>102240705
My 4080 Super will last me 10 years. No need for an overpriced 5080.

>>102240730
Post case

>>102240730
>Do I just have the fan on the top?
Yes. Your front fans will blow the hot air out the back. And your top fans suck it out, if you have them.

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>>102240696
I've used PGA CPUs almost exclusively since the early 2000s and this is the first time that I had to warm up a heatsink on a skillet and pry the CPU off it with a burger flipper.

>>102240660
Zen 4 as well someone posted results in that thread with 7700X

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>>102240680

>>102238590
ryzen 5 7600 costs 80 pounds more than the 12400f + am4 mobos are more expensive, is am4 worth it?

>>102240720
I'm asking if its worth buying the rest of those parts (I own the GPU and CPU) to sell on as a built system, if you think I would only be able to sell it for cost I wont bother.

>>102240801
noones gonna buy that old ass system

>>102240801
Hell no lol, unless you have confirmation of similar builds selling for $600 AUD.

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currently building a new pc, bought a fractal torrent black and an arctic liquid freezer III 360 aio, should I attack the cooler on the top or the side?

rest of the build
https://no.pcpartpicker.com/list/rWn6TY

>>102240336
The WD warrenty for my WD SSD is 5 years or 300 TBW.

>>102240886
Top.

>>102240886
Top is usually preferred if you have the space to mount it.

>>102240886
You can't mount it on top because it's a fractal torrent
You can't mount it on the bottom because it'll kill the pump
Front mount is the only option which negates the advantage of the torrent having huge intake fans

Get a better case for water cooling or use an air cooler if you want the torrent

>>102240886
...why did you buy a case designed for air cooling if you're gonna use liquid?

>>102238590
Hi guys can you help me choose wich card should I buy? I can't decide bettwen rtx 3080 and rx 7800xt, I don't know anything about computers but my friend told they are 2 options I should go with. My cpu is ryzen 5 7500f if that matters

>>102241039
What monitor are you using? Resolution and frame rate?

>>102238590
W10 chads, we won >>>/vg/493226042

>>102241071
haven't bought one yet but I'm planning on buying AOC Gaming 24G2SAE 1920x1080 165hz

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>>102241039
i'd take the 7800xt personally.

>>102241098
1. What are your budgets for the GPU and for the display. 1080p in 2024 is not recommended.
2. What country are you in?

>>102240680
use kryosheet

>>102241086
theyre basically the same. if anything, its a draw at this point.

>>102241000
because it also does liquid cooling?

>>102241107
800$ ,why is 1080p not recommended?
Russia

>>102238590
>RX 7700 XT
The AMD website recommends the RX 7600 and RX 7600 XT for 1080p. Are they wrong?
>Ryzen 7600
Should this be replaced by the Ryzen 9600X?

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>>102238635
Sorry, but 12GB is too low for 1440p in 2024, stop baiting people into this trap

>>102241150
I originally retracted the word "retard" from my post, but I see that this was a mistake.

>>102241139
So literally no reason to install W11

>>102241204
if youre already on w10, sure

>>102241151
>Russia
Ah I suspected as much. That does complicates things.

>800$ ,why is 1080p not recommended?
Just because there isn't much R&D for 1080p panels anymore because they are considered budget/entry-level displays so their image quality lags behind the larger higher-resolution models. That said, if locally in your market a 27" 1440p monitor costs a lot more then sticking to 24" 1080p, then it's fine. Outside of Russia there is very little premium/extra cost for a 27" 1440p over 24" 1080p which makes the latter a worse value.

Also I agree with >>102241105 that the 7800 XT would be the better choice in terms of performance and because the 3080 will be more VRAM limited, just make sure you aren't paying a huge amount more for one over the other.

I have a Zalman Z3 Plus and I hate it so fucking much holy shit what fucking subhuman designed this garbage case.

That was just meaningless venting, but could I somehow install three 3.5 HDDs into Montech AIR 903? I like the case otherwise but still need my HDDs due to autism.

>>102241213
rtfm

>>102241039
wait for the 5080 but if you need one right now then the 4080s

>>102241223
Did I miss some fine print? I see that it only has space for 2 of them by design, so that's why I'm wondering if there's any way I could add another aside from just leaving it loose in there. Even if I have to buy some extra thing I'm not aware of.

>>102241186
>1440p
That's DLSS quality outputting to 1440p, meaning rendered at 1707x960p.
12GB is not even enough for 1080p.

>>102241212
I can get used rtx 3080 for 450$ or a brand new rx7800xt for 570$
>Ah I suspected as much
is my english really that bad lol?

>>102241275
your english is fine. not sure how he figured out you were a ruski. id take the 3080 if its that much cheaper.

Stupid question but how do I know my AIO is fully working? The fans work but how do I know the pump is working?

>>102239717
This has to be sandbagging.

>>102241320
You should be able to see the pump RPM in the bios.

>>102241320
Run a stress test. If your computer shuts down on its own then it isn't working.

Why is my mouse sensitivity between my two monitors different? I originally setup a 1080p 60fps monitor and a new 1440p 120hz (at the time) monitor and the sensitivity between them felt exactly the same. Now, i'm using both monitors on a different computer and the 1440p can crank up to 240hz and it feels great on that monitor but now the 1080p one feels very off.

I don't know what the exact issue or how to fix it.

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I already have 2 m.2 drives, a 3080ti and an AMD 7700

HOURS of research, literally DAYS wasted .

How am i doing so far?

I will replace the fans on the CPU with the MAX fans.

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>>102241197
do you know better than the manufacturer?

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>>102238590
What's the modern day Antec 300 case?

A case that looks normal. Not too gamer. But no frill building while being not to big externally but very roomy and easy to build in internally.

>>102241403
That pic doesn't show any top radiator support.

>>102241403
Just because the case allows you to use watercooling, does not mean it is optimised for such a use case. Keep coping with your post-purchase rationalisation, retard.

>>102241448
but it shows front radiator support, what's your point?

>>102241451
sounds to me like you are jealous anon

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>>102241423
Silent Base 802 from Be Quiet

>>102240903
>>102240943
There is no top mounting on that specific case.

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>>102241423
never mind you might not like how it's built

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>im going to watercool my entry level/midrange CPU

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Fucked up and ordered mobo (AsRock B650M-HDV/M.2) without checking compatibility with my Noctua NH-D14. The tower second hand goes for ~$40 in my country so considering selling it, but what more compact and decent do I get instead for that money? Used will do. CPU's gonna be tray 7600 without the box cooler.

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>>102241543
...yes!

>>102240618
>look up p5 plus
>controller manufacturer is micron
what a surprise
looks like picking crucial instead of rebranded mystery meat was the right choice again

>>102241401
wtf since when did pccg have p12 max 5 pack in stock?

>>102241336
Without taking it apart, I can only find one wire that connects directly to the radiator and it's connected to "cpu fan". In the bios, cpu fan runs but the one for pump is 0. When I switch this single connector to pump fan, neither cpu fan or pump fan have any RPM.

So does this mean that CPU fan is just my pump/radiator and everything is working fine?

>>102241377
What are some good general benchmark tools anyways? I want to see if mine match up correctly.

>>102241550
get a 7600 box cooler

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>>102241210
If you want better performance you should be on Windows 10, unless you have an Intel CPU with estrogen cores.

>>102241575
every few weeks they get it in stock

>>102238590
>Post build list or current specs including MONITOR

upgraded to 3440x1440 144Hz monitor, and my 2700x / GTX1070 machine is on it's last legs.

I want to upgrade CPU to 9700x and GPU to 7800xt or 7900gre. Do you think it is worth it to upgrade now or should I wait for the nvidia 5xxx series so that prices drop?
Want to consooom now and I think at most prices will drop maybe 100-150€ in a few months. Will nvidia further increase pricing? On the other side it feels wrong to buy soon last gen hardware.

I am considering the i7-14700K for my new desktop. Is there any reason I should prefer 12th gen instead? And if not can what's a relatively affordable motherboard I can pair it with? I'm not interested in fancy stuff like gaming features and wifi

>>102241653
i misread and thought it was the p14 max
that shit has been out of stock forever

>>102241659
>CPU to 9700x
The price/performance is worse than Zen 4 so grab one of those instead.
>wait for the nvidia 5xxx series so that prices drop
Their mid-range (5070 tier) is unlikely to release soon so you'll be waiting almost an entire year. There probably won't be much RDNA 3 stock left by then since AMD already preparing for RDNA 4.

>>102241659
theyll discontinue some of the 4000 series and have it compliment their new 5000 series cards
dont hold too much hope that theyll drop prices, especially if rdna4 rumours are true and theyre not bringing out anything powerful

>>102241670
consider waiting a few months for the new intel parts to release. at the very least you might get a discount on current stock.
you might want to search up the latest news about intels 13/14th gen before buying anything

>>102241670
>Is there any reason I should prefer 12th gen instead
Not if you plan on throwing your CPU in the trash in the next 6 months

Remember to download more fps anons.*
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqEZmjTfuM

*intlel need not apply

>>102241403
i bought this case because i'm aircooling. if i was watercooling i would have bought an other one. i would have chosen one that flows bottom up.

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but april was months ago!

>>102241694
prices will drop if amd manages to compete (extremely unlikely) or the AI bubble props

or if nvidia is (deservedly) hit with antitrust, which would probably result in cuda becoming available to amd, which would result in amd taking a bunch of the AI marketshare that nvidia is currently hogging.

>>102241782
why would they have to let amd on the cuda train?

>>102241805
because antitrust

>>102241819
it has nothing to do with cuda though

>>102241590
So it's good enough? Will probably do that, thanks.

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>>102241743
>Win10 still 5% faster than "fixed" Win11

>>102241834
the doj is investigating nvidia for its monopoly on AI
i dont see any other outcome that resolves this problem

ideally what should happen is that nvidia is forced to split into hardware and software arms. the hardware company can keep making gpus and whatnot, but the software company that will own cuda/dlss/etc will be able to (and will have the monetary incentive to) license their goodies to whichever hardware vendor wants to pay for them.

this would solve the monopoly issues in both gaming and AI. imagine how much healthier both those markets would be if amd could use cuda and dlss.

>>102241771
nobody cares for intel
this is amd cpu + amd gpu + linux os board
nvidia shills need not apply

I want to upgrade to am5
Im currently running ryzen 5 5600g, rtx 3060 12gb with 500w psu
Is it a good time to upgrade yet? Also
theres some artifact appearing that i suspect came because of shitty psu is it gonna be a problem?

>>102242034
what psu do you have

Best bang for your buck storage SSD? AFAIK 870 QVO is the best but I'm not up to date with newer releases.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=izqEZmjTfuM

No way 24h2 is worth putting up with recall 2 bullshit
What do 23h2 bros

>>102242185
>the malding thumbnail

>>102242034
With that GPU? Get a 5700x3d chuck in some 4x32gb ram and ride that fucker for the next decade
Wish I kept my am4s
>>102241743
136k it's nice I don't have to bother since forever lol CPU just worked even after oxygate
>>102241961
Intel CPU amd GPU and Windows 11 feels weird
Was waiting for battlemage on my a770 too

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>>102238590
Are there no good 1080p monitors or is pcpartpicker just fucking with me?

>>102242239
>chuck in some 4x32gb

>>102242267
>good
>1080p
no, its not fucking with you.
its not 2009 anymore, anon.

>>102242185
W10 LTSC

>>102239352
Wukong forces RT whether you have RT hardware or not. It uses UE5 Lumen system which is software based Global illimitation that casts rays. That's why the 7900XTX is closest to a 4060Ti hehe. The "Ray Tracing doesn't matter" crowd have been real quiet since game engines starting shipping with forced RT

>>102242282
>its not 2009 anymore, anon.
I'm not going to spend more than 700 bucks on a GPU to MAYBE get a 60fps experience at 1440p.

>>102242172
>storage
>ssd
you probably want spinning rust, not ssd.

but, if you're *sure* you want ssd
-afaik prices between nvme and 2.5'' sata are pretty similar nowadays. and ofc nvme is to be preferred for both speed and form factor reasons
-while you can save $/GB by going with a QLC drive like the 870 qvo, it involves some serious potential compromises. qlc drives are very slow in large sustained writes, and they're way less resilient too. so unless you're sure those things don't matter to you, you're better off paying a little more for TLC instead.

>>102242294
Yeah no I'm thinking more Linux
Moved on from w10 eventually it's gonna die especially before 2049 and 2030

>>102242267
>0.01-2ms, top 0.001% of monitors
>ALSO only new panel types
>ALSO [resolution from 20 years ago]
lmao, may as well look for a CRT that supports HDR.

>>102242322
>0.01-2ms, top 0.001% of monitors
That's literally the majority of modern monitors.

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Day 518 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102242311
anon, 99.999% of all games ever made will run like butter at 1440p with a 4070tisuper (im just guessing here)
and the few new ones that won't, well, fuck them. run them at lower settings. run them windowed at 1080p. whatever.
oh, and don't forget that downgrading the monitor will also affect you all the rest of the time too, when you're not gaming.

>>102242319
LTSC is supported until 2032
>Moved on from w10
To 11? The exact same shit but worse? I understand switching to linux if that's viable for you but 11 is a straight downgrade in every way and you're already using it.

>>102242309
It's well known ue has always run like shit on amd gpus since the way it's meant to be played back in 2003

>>102242340
Not on Intel CPUs

>>102241955
that's because nvidia has been using its strongarm tactics it uses on its Chinese board partners on its AI clients
>you had better use us or you'll never buy from us again!

>>102242356
W10 did get patches for estrogen cores
But if you're still buying modern intel CPUs then you don't have a good track record for decision-making anyway.

>>102241955
>ideally what should happen is that nvidia is forced to split into hardware and software arms
Then apple, MS and AMD should be forced to split up as well.

why can't nvidia into dsc?
i'm either returning my monitor or my gpu, haven't decided yet
fucking jewvidea

>>102242402
>Then apple, MS and AMD should be forced to split up as well.
why?
>apple
no monopoly on anything. android is a thing for smartphones and tablets, and ofc there's shitloads of non-apple laptops/desktops
>AMD
again, no monopoly in anything
>MS
here, maybe yes. splitting office away from windows would be a good idea for the OS market. LOTS of companies are paying windows licenses just to run that shit

but really nvidia is the most extreme example of this. their software is allowing them to sell their hardware at exorbitant prices. especially in the AI sector, but it also applies to gaming with dlss.
splitting them like this would be beneficial for consumers, and it might even be a net gain for shareholders too. the hardware arm of the company would be less profitable ofc, but all the money that the software arm could make by licensing cuda/dlss would likely more than make up for it.

>Run Steel Nomad
>"Damn this looks smooth as shit, I could play like this"
>Check framerate at the bottom
>~45FPS
What in the name of fuck

>>102242318
So I'm still better off with an 8TB spinning rust that's like 40% of the price, such as the Seagate EXOS Enterprise? I can buy two for redundancy and that's still cheaper than a single 8TB 870 QVO.

>>102242493
steel nomad has perfect framepacing and vrr/gsync is working correctly instead of bugging out.

>>102242523
Yeah I haven't seen anything like this in a while
To be fair I just upgraded my GPU but damn.

What's a good solid no-frills keyboard? I've used rubber dome Genius or whatever for 10 years, now I'm builiding a new pc so I need a new one for it

>>102242559
Logitech K120

>>102242496
obv spinning rust is WAY cheaper.
the disadvantages are speed, but that's likely not a prob if you just wanna store media etc, and noise.
if you plan to stick the drives into your desktop, you may wanna pay the ssd premium just to avoid having to hear all the *click* *whirrrr* and shit.
ideally, HDDs should be shoved into a NAS (either an off the shelf NAS unit, or a repurposed old desktop, or even a ghetto setup with a raspi + an external usb drive or 2) and banished somewhere far away, where their noise won't bother you.

if you wanna minmax, generally the best deals in $/GB terms are the 2nd-3rd largest drives available. nowadays im guessing 16-18tb models.
also, sometimes its even cheaper to buy external usb drives and just remove them from the enclosure. whether that's the case for you, and whether the savings justify having to do the shucking is up to you to research and decide respectively.

>>102242537
When the stars align between hardware&software its nice but its sad it not always like that. Lots of games say 120+ avg fps but the min fps feels like 30.

>>102242581
Are renewed HDDs a waste of time? I can buy two 8TB ones for the price of the EXOS I mentioned. For example I can get those two:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08Z77QT43
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09VBBKKMB

And call it a day, one sits in cold storage the other in my PC disabled until I need to run it.. Unless they both suffer data loss within 5 years then I got much more value of them than with a single brand new HDD. Any obvious flaws in my plan?

After looking at several ATX cases (honestly I'd like to go small but that would require a full mobo+ram+cpu upgrade or buying a fucking AM4 motherboard in 2024) my choices narrow down to the Lancool III, the Air 903 MAX and the Fractal Torrent Compact. I don't want anything more huge than that (and definitely not a cube or anything dual chamber or whatever it's called).
Which one would you recommend the most out of these?
I'm looking for build quality and quiet. With proper cooling I would imagine the thing would run quiet. While cable management concerns me a bit maybe the Torrent Compact (which I heard has problems with that because of its layout) has something over the other two cases that's worth it. Aesthetics are not much of a problem, it's likely it will be down on the floor.

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>check upgrade path for am4
>~5Ghz monstrosities
>only 105W tdp
Literally how? I can still use my basic bitch 30€ cooler on it. Also why is every retard buying the noctua gigatowers?

>>102242711
why not montech sky two gx?

Do you have recommendations for affordable speakers? Nothing crazy but nothing that will instantly grate your ears either

>>102242876
they want The Best™ (and they're the same retard who use 14th gen intel)

>>102242921
I also looked at it, but people kept often recommending the Air 903 MAX over it like there was no point on getting that one. Though maybe I'm missing something.

>>102242876
No one buys noctua anymore. They are going to bankrupt.

Is there any situation in which it would be beneficial to mount a GPU vertically?
I've seen people claim that in certain setups horizontally mounted GPUs are fairly restricted because they push air through the sides and they get choked out by TG panels on narrower cases/motherboards with shrouds. Also that with some newer cases intakes often populate the bottom. But I'm not entirely sure.

>>102242876
>Literally how?
Relatively low heat density and a high sustainable operating temperature. Remember TDP is not a direct measure of temperature or power.

>>102242559
>>102242559
logitech g413
redragon k582
royal kludge rk920

>>102243010
So what did intel do wrong in their design with 14th gen that you nearly cannot aircool it?

>>102242711
montech if you can put the budget to better use.
lancool if you don't really care about the price.
torrent is over-rated.

>>102243069
They just throw 250w+ at a really dense package so the inner cores get baked by the ones around them in a nut shell. Combined with cpus not being direct die cooled so there are thermal constraints actually pulling heat off the die, through the TIM, into the IHS and into your cooler means intel chips are extremely difficult to cool.

On the other side AMD's chiplet design means even if you slammed 250w through them the CCX's (and I/O die) are physically separate and each chiplet is small which gives a large surface area making cooling easier. Same deal applies to threadripper and epyc - those chips can suck down hundreds of watts (you let something like a 7995wx off the chain and it can drink 500w) - but they are physically so spaced out they can be air cooled.

>>102241587
>What are some good general benchmark tools anyways?
For benchmarks,
>CPU
Cinebench R23/24, CPU-Z
>GPU
Unigine Heaven, Unigine Superposition, any demanding game of your choice
For stress testing CPU/RAM in a worst-case scenario, use Prime95.
There are some better paid options, but lmao paying for something you'll run a couple times every few years.

>>102243138
I have a total budget of 300€ for a case and a PSU, basically. I haven't decided much on the PSU and I can probably save on that as well (650W should be still enough for a future build, I already upgraded my GPU and I always undervolt these shits anyways). It's tough because I haven't seen Montech before.

>>102242998
You would pretty much only want to do it in an ITX or very non-standard case that relies on the GPU getting air from a fan mounted on a vent in the side panel. In all other cases it's objectively worse.

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>>102243333
checked
get the montech and a Be Quiet dark power 13 850w titanium PSU (note, not the dark power PRO 13), it's a rock sold SS+ tier PSU that has a 10 year warranty with native support for old style 6+2's and new 12vhpwer if you ever get a high end nvidia.

>>102241403
Bro I get it that you are retarded, and that's okay, there's plenty like that here, but the entire purpose of that case is to be "le air cooler meme end game case". You going AIO negates the entire purpose of it, and you are hard griefing yourself out of performance from said aio by not getting any case where you could attach it on top. You are going to be taking hot as shit air and blowing it inside your case.

>>102241771
>surprise move
This has been painfully obvious for months. Maybe it's a surprise for Toms' chatbot article writers.

google, amazon and apple are a far worse for abusing their monopolies than nvidia is.

>>102243478
It'll take a while to get another nvidia GPU since I just bought a 4070 super but I will check that one out

>>102238590
Anyone else signed up for FrameChasers brainfuck overclocking master class bamboozle? I canae believe that guy is going full Athene Arc with that guy starting a gamers college at the beginning

>Windows 11 now btfos Windows 10
It's so ovah

>>102244230
i have enough bamboozling going on in my life to willingly sign up for another bamboozle from some guy with an annoying lisp

>>102244243
Still not switching.

>>102244243
I'm gpu bound so it don't matter

>>102244259
I already switched to Linux.

What PC build would be good for running late '90s Windows 9x games in 86Box?
My budget is 800$

>>102243503
He can always turn the fans around.

>>102240531
>>102240618
I only buy Western Digital and SK Hynix/Solidigm drives.

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>>102244333
Basically anything made in the last 10-15 years. Any recent high clocking chip will be fine.

>>102244333
12400F + used 2080 Ti.

>>102239574
The money is mostly held up in Congress and consistently getting slashed. Ironically the CHIPS Act is getting chipped away or gobbled up by DoD spending. Fortunately the DoD backed out of the “totally not bailing out Intel with a free (courtesy of the tax payers) $3 billion infusion” after realizing they probably wouldn’t be getting anything out of it and seeing the dumpster fire that is Intel.

>>102244569
IFS will get bailed out no matter what. The rest of intel (dunno what they call themselves after the split) will be allowed to fail should they keep fucking it up.

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is 32'' 1440p a shady nasty idea
want a second monitor 27'' 1440p feels a little small

>>102244645
32 or 27" 4K 60Hz

>>102244645
Dont listen to that retard above me, 4k is a meme
27" is the optimal size for 1440p
At 32" i can kinda see the pixels
t. Sold my 1440p32

>>102244672
4k has optimal scaling since it's 2:1 with 1080p

>>102244702
>>102244702
>>102244702

>>102244645
id strongly advise against 32/1440p. go 4k, or stick to 27in
32/1440p has the same ppi as 24/1080p, aka poop-tier. and if you have a 27/144p next to it, you WILL see/notice it all the time.

>>102241550
Why have you not considered just ordering a free AM5 mounting kit??

>>102244695
nta, but nobody scales 4k to 1080p.
that would be fine on a 24/4k panel, not on the far more common 27/32/4k. those, you scale at 150% to 1440p

>>102244719
AM5 kit is not a problem, I'm talking about it overhanging the PCIe x16 slot for GPU. There is another x16 but in x4 mode, which might work but should cost me performance, as I understand.

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Hi, everyone. I am looking to finally upgrade my GPU to the latest and greatest out there.

Was thinking of getting the 7900 XT, but here I am seeing that AMD is just about to release the 8000 series. When a new AMD lineup is announced, do you guys know when the new GPU's hit store shelves or can be ordered? Is it even worth waiting possibly till 2025 Q1 for them to come out?

Thank you for your collective experience.

>>102246226
>upgrade my GPU to the latest and greatest out there.
>radeon
>latest and greatest
Pick one