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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Budget: 12400F, 7600X
Gaming: 7800X3D
Workstation: 7900X
AVOID: Intel 13/14 series

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7900 GRE
1440p: RTX 4080 Super, 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 XT
4K: RTX 4090
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: AOC 24G15N
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Budget: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Thermaltake Toughfan T12 Pro, Noctua NF-A14x25r

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>>102238590
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first for shills rule
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>>102244702
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7900 GRE
I'd swear it was a 3000 series card the recommended one for 1080p just a couple threads back, what happened?
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Looking for a used PC for gaming, I'm poor though. So I found a

I7-7700
Radeon JXZ RX 580 8Gb GDDR5
16GB DDR4 Ram
SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe Samsung 256Gb

PC used at Ebay for 200€.
A good deal for 200€ used?
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>>102244702
What CPU and GPU combo would be good for a Socket 478 build? I’ve got an old Dell microATX case from that era I’d like to put to use
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what is the modern day equivalent to pic related? I play World of warcraft and want more macro keys on my keyboard.
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>>102244870
P4 EE 3.46ghz and 7800GTX 512MB
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>>102244862
Rotational velocidensity degradation.
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>>102244862
retard OP does not understand how GPU's work
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>>102244702
I bought a soundbar for my PC (yes I know soundbars suck but I don’t have the space for speakers). Anyway, it came with a usb type A to connect into the PC. My question is, which one do I connect it into? I’ve plugged it into the number 9 usb slots in the image and everything works alright but just wanna make sure. The end that goes into the sound bar is a usb C if that matters.
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>>102244702
I hate fishtank cases so much it's unreal
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>>102244862
OP rotates between someone with common sense and a retard. If 4070Super is 1080p, why is 7900GRE also 1080p?
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>>102244960
>Bought a Fractal R5 with no window
>build is great
>see all the new builds with the fish tank
>looks cool enough
>Get a Lian Li 011
>hate it within 2 months
>go back to R5

Windowless black boxes need to make a comeback. With proper dust filters in every fan intake.
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>>102244869
Sounds okay anon.
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>>102244702
Y40 or Vision? I like y40 because of vertical gpu mount
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>>102245017
You can probably get a riser kit for the other one as well. But that will cost more.
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>>102245006
For me it's mesh panels.
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>>102244956
>The end that goes into the sound bar is a usb C if that matters
it does not matter
>I’ve plugged it into the number 9 usb slot
correct, but you could likely put it into number 4 (check if your soundbar can go into a usb2 port), and save a usb 3.2 port
I want to re-iterate that soundbars for a PC suck, and any speaker that uses USB suck. but that's just me.
you have number 6 in your diagram which is a better choice
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>>102244918
That’s gonna be a massive improvement over the Celeron and Extreme Graphics 2 geg
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>>102245068
my issue with too much ventilation on panels, dust get wild. I like not having to dust my PC like at all
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>>102245006
I had an r6 solid and loved it but temps were meh
I moved to a o11d evo and I love it too and temps are great
But I miss the lean rectangular shape of mid towers and am picking up a fractal north mesh soon
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>>102245079
your vrms are gonna hate the P4 EE so much and might self-immolate
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>>102245131
>I had an r6 solid and loved it but temps were meh
My PC is all liquid cooled, so my temps aren't bad. I have a 120mm AiO on both CPU and GPU. Makes it so air doesn't really get trapped too much in the PC.
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I am not paying $600 for a 4070 Super you fucking craKKKers
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>>102245095
Just regular clean your room
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>>102245027
>$60 for a mount
>not even sag proof
their gpu mount is overpriced and poorly designed
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>>102245167
PCs aren't for niggers anyways. Just go acquire (steal) a Sony product like your kind are known for doing.
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I ended up ordering a Lancool 216
The fuck do I do with all of these arctic fans I have laying around now? Too many of these.
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>>102245176
that doesn't magically make dust not appear in your case unless you're floor to ceiling cleaning your room every day.
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>>102245167
I paid more for one and I'm happy
You're not happy because you're not overspending on GPUs, that's your problem not mine motherfucker
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>>102245006
I literally was about to post something similar.

I bought a Torrent because of some perceived problem that I had bad airflow and wouldn't miss my 5.25

Regret it basically every day I'm absolutely maxed out on drive bays and don't have a 5.25 anymore. The 1% of the time I need a CD DVD drive I get pissed off because using USB adaptations of things that used to just be native just makes me irrationally angry.

I came from I believe an R5 or R6 and before that an R2 XL. I might get an R7 XL for my next case because this USB donglegate is horseshit and I never need to move my PC so I don't give a fuck if it's gigantic. If I do, I have a gear grip to turn it into a 80lb messenger bag. I'll grow a back. The airflow on the torrent doesn't actually matter, I don't and never have seriously practically overclocked and I have no interest in doing so. I will simply buy a better CPU if I feel it is lacking which I literally never have. I'm completely content with my 1800X. All I get from the extra airflow is more cat hair stuck to the front vent.

The torrent is a fine case but it's just not for me. Too many compromises in ways I do care about, to make way for things I don't care about.

tldr got minimalism/downsizing memed and hate it.
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We need to make separate GPU recommendations based on GayTracing and raster performance.
I swear it keeps changing every thread for no good reason.
Or put
>Avoid: AMD cards
at the top and be done with it.
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>>102245189
You have your answer then.
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current specs. I want to get some better performance in the 3D software I use like Houdini and Unreal Engine. I'm considering upping ram to 64gb and potentially looking into a 4090 although I see talks of the 5 series approaching so I don't know if I should wait for that. is this a bad idea or what
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>>102245318
5090 is at least 3 months away if not longer
You can just get the 64gb (2x32gb) ram and 4090 now
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>>102245349
>>102245318
I agree with anon. Just get a 4090. Given how poor the launch of the 4090 was and how little VRAM the 5090 will have (which is all that matters for 3D work really), I'd wait until people start selling their 4090 below msrp.
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>>102245306
>>Avoid: AMD cards
>at the top and be done with it.
based
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It's up
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006834/amd-ryzen-5-7600x3d,-asus-tuf-gaming-b650-plus-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

They jacked up the price of the 7800X3D bundle by another $50
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>>102245291
My Pop Air has two 5 1/2 bays AND you can get it without the glass. Just be aware it doesn’t come with the USB C connector for the top panel
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>>102245611
What a ripoff
For 50 dollars more you get 2 more cores, 300mhz higher clocks and 16gb more ram
That bundle should be no more than 350
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>>102245644
Huh.

Well isnt that just fucking neat.

That's a much more appropriate sized case. I knew about the pop but I did not know about this feature.
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>he waited
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Looking for a 4k OLED monitor, are there any good ones within 1400$ (willing to wait for sale if it goes on sale frequently), country USD.
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>>102245956
>unironically being german
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So after a year of crashing like once every 2 weeks at idle and now suddenly once a day I finally figured out what was causing it, AMD's C-states. Haven't had a single crash in 2 weeks after disabling it. I literally had it happen once a day for 2 weeks before disabling it.
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>>102245956
>he waited
I have a 5800x3d, so yes.
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5080 wen
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I'm looking for a new monitor on rtings, is OLED mature enough as a technology now? Brands advertise self-maintaining features to prevent burn in. Also I need G-SYNC (own a 4070)
But why the hell are monitors so huge now? It's all 30+ incheas and even ultrawide. I have a 27 inch and feel uncofortable with just a 60cm deep desk already. What am I supposed to do
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>>102244702
>AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow
what's wrong with Corsair 4000D?
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>>102246121
Ugly
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>>102245956
>geizhals
they only show official vendors (aka people with berg/stein in their last name) and not resellers, which are less jewish in their pricing.
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>>102246013
G80SD
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>>102246138
Mine's the trypophobia-safe version
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>>102246219
Why do you need a 32 inch monitro
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>>102244987
>If 4070Super is 1080p, why is 7900GRE also 1080p?
You're right, the 7900 GRE is worse than the 4070 Super, so the GRE should be listed under 720p

>>102245318
If you can wait, and you have a large budget, I would wait. The 5090 will probably launch within four months

>>102245611
>>102245956
AMD really taking the piss with its price increases

>>102246089
>is OLED mature enough as a technology now?
Yes

>I need G-SYNC (own a 4070)
Geforce can use any kind of adaptive sync
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AIO died so I'm currently stuck with the stock cooler on my old 2700X. I've never used it before but it keeps the temp under 80C at full load so do I even bother with an aftermarket replacement? I'm not going back to the watercooling meme either way.
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>>102245956
>Raise price of 7800X3D so that you can sell the 7600X3D at the same price as 7800X3D used to cost

Delightfully devilish, AMD
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>>102246308
>do I even bother
No
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>>102246293
>Geforce can use any kind of adaptive sync
Maybe with newer monitors, but I have 3 different 1080p144hz FreeSync displays (2 Iiyama, 1 Lenovo) that Nvidia cards don't play nice with.
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>>102246088
new generations are usually unveiled like this
>nvidia blog post saying there's going to be an announcement in a couple weeks or so
>there they unveil the cards
>in stores like a month later
Still no announcement of the announcement so 2 months at the earliest
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>>102246089
Get one of the 27" 1440p 360hz QDs or the 480hz woled but reliability is kinda unknown right now so I would not expect it to for sure last much longer than the 3 year warranty, probably depends on usage and luck. If you want 4k >>102246013 27" 4k oleds are planned for next year
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>>102246413
>reliability is kinda unknown right now
15k hours tops. OLED will be great when the price goes down to under $500. I'd replace it every 2-3 years for that price without much pain.
I've seen people got G60SD for $450-ish, that's the fair price.
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Heres the plan
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N8tC34
Except the Hx850i is a 2014 one im carrying over, buying cables for a 16 pin and such

192gb of ram for the memes, gonna go with that type but not certain on the capacity yet

yay or nay?
single core performance and drive speed are important for my uses, im brute forcing performance out of unoptimized shit
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>overclocked 10700k
>2070 super 8Gb
>16Gb 3200Mhz ram
>1080p
Is there a good reason to upgrade any of it if I just play old shitter games and occasionally some AAA? Do 1440p shills have merit enough to upgrade both gpu + monitor?
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>>102246572
Doesnt a 2070S perform like a 1080Ti, a card that in 2017 was considered 4k60+? If you play old stuff mainly you could simply jump to a $200-250 1440p144 monitor without even upgrading your gpu
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Can you ask about desk recommendations in this thread? Desk is kind of a part of the whole "system".
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I cannot get my 12700k to have consistent temps with an nhd15. I've resat the cooler thrice now. Everytime I reseat it, temps show massive improvement. 22c or 25c at idle and light browsing. Now a few weeks later we're at 35c while doing the same thing. It doesn't really matter as it never goes over 70 while gaymin, but it's bothering me. I'm not seeing others have this issue. It's 23c ambient, on w10 iot ltsc. Any thoughts?

I've thought about taking the AIOpill, but my case wouldn't really allow for it so that would require a new case(this is fine, I hate this torrent compact).
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>>102246655
1080Ti wasn't a 4K card even for it's time. 2070S is even worse with 8gb of VRAM. If 4K is the goal even for older games, what is your definition of "old games" like 2015 games? Maybe with high settings.
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>>102246686
Also, fans are on 30% at idle. So that would be the two 180mm in the front, two on the cpu cooler and the exhaust.
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>>102246657
this is pc building general not desk building general. we dont know your room, layout, etc. go to ikea or local place and ask for assistance.
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>>102246785
Huh, I guess, but I thought maybe you guys have your favourite models or brands or something.
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>>102246824
Or at least recommendations for what to look for. Features, dimensions, etc.
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>>102246824
I just sit on the floor and use an old steamer truck as a desk. What you should go with depends entirely on what you want and need out of a desk.
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>>102246824
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>>102246858
An ergonomic, durable desk for my future PC. The PC cannot stand on the ground.
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>>102246824
I've been using the same glass desk for almost 20 years now I got from circuit city before they closed.

Maybe /diy/ can help more.
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>>102246878
>>102246880
I would prefer having a chair.
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>>102246357
Freesync monitors are often garbage. There's no certification process
The off brand ones probably wouldn't have worked well with any graphics card
You don't have to worry about that with the new OLEDs, but Nvidia is releasing a new G-sync module that will find its way into OLEDs soon enough

>>102246655
You are correct

>>102246735
>muh vram
Old games don't even need 8 GB at 4K
Of course pic related doesn't indicate what the game actually needs, just how much it will sprawl out if given the extra room
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>>102244890
>lemme buy a gimmick shit keyboard instead of rebinding my shit
do gaymers really?
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>>102246735
>1080Ti wasnt a 4k card
What? I doubt there's even a single review from when it launched saying it's bad at 4k. Remember that the target framerate back then was 60, plus the 'pc master race' brainrot hadn't completely taken over the hobby so lower framerates were acceptable and cranking everything to ultra wasn't seen as a necessity
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>>102246942
VRAM usage =/= fps
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>>102246954
>I doubt there's even a single review from when it launched saying it's bad at 4k
because no one would play then-state of the art games on 4k.
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>>102246960
Definitely true, and I agree that the 1080 Ti wasn't that good for 4K because of its performance. In fact the 2070 Super was better because of DLSS
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>>102246572
>Is there a good reason to upgrade any of it if I just play old shitter games and occasionally some AAA?
well, presumably your old games do fine now, but AAAs don't. whether that warrants any expenditure is up to you.

>Do 1440p shills have merit enough to upgrade both gpu + monitor?
absolutely.
if anything, you should consider leapfrogging straight to 4k, assuming ofc you don't mind paying more for the monitor and the gpu. or accepting fewer fps.
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>>102246989
You're clueless
Also the point is that the reviews from back then have 4k benchmarks, and none will write off the resolution as unsuitable for the card
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>>102247132
I though about jumping to high refresh rate 4k, but I don't like half assing shit and the only card that seems to be able to run every AAA game consistently on at least 70-80 fps is a 4090.
But considering the power draw, price, and the fact that it can't even run the meme technology that it was advertised to run on 4k is putting me off from it.
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I’ve been gaming on a 27” 1440p 165Hz monitor (capped at 144fps) and have never had any issues. However, I recently switched to a 34” 1440p ultrawide and have been experiencing horrible frame times in online games for some reason. 3440x1440 will obviously be a bit more taxing than 2560x1440 but these are rather simple games and my hardware is pretty OK (5800X3D, 4070S). I still maintain a solid 144fps but the frame times are awful creating a lot of lag. What might be causing this? It shouldn’t be hardware related but I’ve been looking around for quite some time and can’t figure out what might be causing it but I guess it has something to do with the transition to UW since that’s when it began.

Any ideas?
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>>102247266
I found that PUBG exhibited massively less stuttering when not using the resolution scaling feature to increase internal resolution. Set everything on low and also use a normal 16:9 aspect ratio to see if the frametimes improve
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQm4yg
ill kms if I have to edit more videos for my class since I was "such a good editor last time"
7900x is the path here? or used 5900x?
oh almost forgot, Slovakia (pcpp supports yipee) and around 1k eur or more (plus max 400 ish)
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>>102244702
spanishfag here
I'm almost set with this congif, posting in case you see something wrong.
I'd go for the 7900 & the 4070 but my budget is 1.5k. Maybe when this generation ends I will update
The price does not include the case (ppp doesnt find it) and I will acquire the controller and the filter too
Usecase: a bit of everything (downloading, fruityloops, ableton, python, matlab & gaming but just a little). My display is 1080p@60hz
Short message trying not to spam much
paz
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>>102247365
>7900x is the path here? or used 5900x?
Unclear what it is you are asking.
Is https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQm4yg your current build and you are considering those as upgrades or are you building a new system with a 1k eur budget?
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>>102244702
sorry to post this here but i think some anons need to know about the x129 microcode BIOS update, better safe than sorry :
>>102246945

GO READ THE THREAD AND THE LINKED FORUM THREAD SO YOU DON'T KILL YOUR 13TH/14TH GEN CPU WITH THE x129 MICROCODE BIOS !!
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Can I just plug my Windows drive and NTFS HDD into a Linux machine and copy everything over to the new SSD?
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Is the 7950x3d the optimal budget general purpose CPU right now?
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>>102247505
upgrading, mostly using the pc for all-around gaming but suddenly I have an influx of video editing needs (in Davinci resolve)
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>>102247240
>but I don't like half assing shit
how do you mean? the point of 4k is that you're NOT half-assing it

>and the only card that seems to be able to run every AAA game consistently on at least 70-80 fps is a 4090
i would consider even a 4070super acceptable as an entry level 4k card
ofc, it'll be hopeless trying to run wukong or whatever the other 2-3 most demanding games ever are called. but normal games, good ones, it'll have no problem with.
also keep in mind that benchmarks typically report fps when rendering natively. if you have an nvidia gpu and aren't running dlss at 1440p and 4k, you're doing it wrong.

> and the fact that it can't even run the meme technology that it was advertised to run on 4k is putting me off from it.
im assuming you mean RT?
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>>102244869
Additional question:

Just realized, what the fuck is this for a GPU manufacturer? Never heard of JXZ.
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>>102247486
The old 12700K is a bit faster than the 7600 in applications and roughly on par with it in gaming for the same cost, but also lets you use cheaper DDR4 RAM which is a big savings when you are buying 64GBs worth of it for video editing.
See benchmarks: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/27.html

The Phantom Spirit is cheaper than the AK620 and will be plenty to cool most chips except i9s or R9 flagships.

The speed differences in NVME drives are not going to benefit you much in the real world even for video editing (at least not if you aren't being paid for it). Certain not enough to spend over 2X the price for the same capacity.

An 8GB card is going to choke in a lot of unoptimzed console port games being released now, so it's not generally recommended. Here a last-gen closesout deal on a 6750XT will give you better than 4060 Ti performance with 12GB of VRAM frame buffer,

PSU is admittedly a little overkill, 750W is plenty but this unit was a good buy for not much more so eh why not?

>My display is 1080p@60hz
>2024
My god please take some of the saving of this build and upgrade your display!
A larger higher resolution display really makes your PC experience so much nicer and the reduction in input lag going up from 60Hz makes everything feel snappier including drag & dropping stuff in the desktop not just playing games.

Edited build: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/XKX2pB
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>>102247662
>upgrading, mostly using the pc for all-around gaming but suddenly I have an influx of video editing needs (in Davinci resolve)
I see. Upgrading to the 7900 means you'd have to dump your Mobo and RAM, so I'd suggest just grabbing the used 12-core 5900X or a 16-Core 5950X and calling it a day.
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>>102247660
>budget
Compared to HEDT I guess
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>>102247486
Biggest issue is mobo. Overkill and expensive. Check hardware unboxed videos on b650
Second biggest is 4060, it's just bad at that price. You are already wanting to upgrade and you haven't even bought it. My advice would be check the used market if your plan is to upgrade soon. Shit a 3080 performs almost the same as the 4070 and it's usually like $400 used (idk about the used market in spain though)
Things you could probably save money on are PSU, CPU cooler (both are overkill), getting a plain 7600 (X models sometimes include a free game which can offset the tiny price difference so check that) and cheaper non rgb RAM
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>>102244987
Because 4070 doesn’t have enough VRAM to run 1440p, it’s recommended to get a 16GB GPU for 1440p
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>>102248190
>hogwarts with rt and frame gen
Radeon fails because no Frame Gen. Did not start, NA, etc. Also it fails in RT even with muh VRAM
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>>102248232
4070s simply can’t run RT with both, DLSS and FG, kek
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>RT ultra
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steel nomad is my favorite game
so is timespy
cant also forget about the demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP7R8PSQVLY
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>>102248299
AMD Steve's benchmarks aren't to be trusted, as he presents Radeon in the best light possible
No Frame Gen in Hogwarts, automatic fail for Radeon anyway. Muh VRAM can't save the featureless Radeon card, can it?
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>>102248388
pic related is you
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The shill is back...
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I know this is kind of a meme gimmick but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBBnTSrxaqA
Did this ever come out? Or do current 216s have the cutouts for these weird motherboards?
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>>102248388
Neither It can save "dedicated" RT card lol
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>>102248388
Poor 4070 buyer, tried to change the subject and still lost
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I will get the asrock n100 board for web browsing to replace my 1700.
Thank you
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what pc should i buy 7k euro budget
should i wait for that new 99503xd cpu?
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>>102248512
What for?
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>>102244987
It also can’t load textures probably, so it’s recommended to avoid any 12GB GPU for 1440p, 16GB is the optimal VRAM buffer with 0 overflows noticed at the moment
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>>102248543
gayming and programming
also using linux so i think i want to go with amd gpu
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>>102248589
Is writing programs your main income source?
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>>102248615
yes writting program on my own computer is my main income source
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>on AMD things just fall apart, with not a single Radeon card reaching 30 FPS at 1080p (!), and you get sub-10 FPS at 4K. It seems nobody tested the game on Radeon with ray tracing, because they would have noticed the white trees that turn to the correct green color once you walk up to them.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/hogwarts-legacy-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/7.html

>>102248440
Yes he >>102248190 is, but fortunately for I'm here to set the record straight. He can't get away with his dirty tricks!

>>102248468
3080 and above are easily playable at 1440p with DLSS (may I remind you better than native in Hogwarts), 4080 and above at 4K with DLSS

>>102248483
>more of AMD Steve's benchmarks
Already invalidated

>change the subject
You posted RT + Frame Gen on the 4070 Ti as evidence that it can't be recommended for 1440p. The subject is still the same, and it has been determined that no Radeon can be recommended for 1440p based on your own testing standards. Where's Radeon's Frame Gen? And why does Radeon have to pay the excessive native tax in Hogwarts?
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>Where's Radeon's Frame Gen?
In the driver lol
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anyone had experience with these? do they work as intended?
my GPU is x8 so considering getting this to give use to the 8 wasted PCIe lanes.
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What's the ideal idle power to shoot for?
Is sub 10w for the whole system (without monitor) possible?
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thoughts on the MSI MPG GUNGNIR 110R?
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>>102248735
It doesn't really matter so long as it's not anomalously high (and therefore indicative of a problem). 20W? Fine. 50W? Fine. 100W? Pushing it but fine enough on a high-end system.

>Is sub 10w for the whole system (without monitor) possible?
Maybe on a mobile SBC.
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>tfw even the 5500x3D ends up mogging AM5
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>>102248684
And it's garbage, worse the Lossless Frame Gen
Excessive latency, turns itself off when you pan the camera, and image quality that looks like a portrait of your parents
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>>102248878
depends on the workload my friend
if you have a program that makes full usage of avx512 and its actually well written and doesn't need big l3 am5 is good
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>>102248659
> Already invalidated
Schizo posting won’t help your case
> as evidence that it can't be recommended for 1440p
And it’s true, it simply can’t
> The subject is still the same, and it has been determined that no Radeon can be recommended for 1440p
Post 7900 gre getting out of VRAM with FSR+FSR FG
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I'm looking for parts to upgrade my PC, but I just heard that Intel's 13 and 14th gen are buggy. Should I stick with a 12th gen instead? I'll be mostly drawing and playing games with it.
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>>102248886
AFMF2 is out already
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>>102248831
>It doesn't really matter
It matters for my power bill
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>>102248388
take your meds
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>>102248957
It really doesn't. 50W for 8 hours a day is <$100 a year even with Hawaii-tier electricity prices.
To put it another way, you could spend the time you would have spent researching this working at Mcdonalds and just about break even.
If you want to minmax your utilities, a fine thing to do, look for heating and cooling first. Turn your thermostat up/down, do your laundry at 20C, try the eco cycle on your dishwasher, line dry your clothes, etc. Deal with the kW stuff before you worry about the watts.
Anyway, to answer your question, anywhere between about 20 and 80W is normal for x86 desktop systems. It'll depend on your exact components and power config.
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>>102247833
>>102248082
I hear you. Sabios consejos. Muchas gracias lads^^
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>>102248720
Yes, they work just fine

As an added bonus, you can just pop them in instead of having o mess with a PCI bracket.
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For around 300-350 which is the Best Video card? Will mainly be used for CAD software and 3D rendering like Lumion. I don't see any convincing Nvidia (NEW) at that price, only 6750XT and 7700XT
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Anyone have the Phanteks XT Pro Ultra case?
Is there a way to turn off the RGB?
Considering this case since it already has 3 frontal fans installed but not a fan of RGB.
Some people they there's 2 separate plugs for fan/rgb but then some say they're the same plug.
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>>102248902
Two >>102248232 >>102248388 to one >>102248299, the best Radeon is worse than a 3080
So yes, AMD Steve's benchmarks are invalidated. And even in AMD Steve's benchmarks, the 7900 GRE is still completely unplayable, worse than the 4070 Ti. Your argument (if someone low IQ as you can even be said to have arguments) suffers even more from your own post

>Post 7900 gre getting out of VRAM with FSR+FSR FG
Where's RT like you posted >>102248190? Oh right, Radeon can't into RT. And guess what, featureless Radeon still doesn't have Frame Gen in Hogwarts, so it's still an immediate fail

>>102248929
And it's garbage
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>>102247486
Frugal Dutchfag here, you can easily get what you want by spending $44 extra.
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/FNhjfy
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>>102249449
Two to two >>102248902
> AMD Steve's benchmarks are invalidated
Wishful thinking
> Oh right, Radeon can't into RT.
See? You can’t show me where 7900 gre is getting out of VRAM, but I can show how 4070s is already struggling at 1440p because of vram buffer, you lost the case
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sorry for double posting
>>102247833
anon, it's so sweet of you, spending time to make the config. And that detailed advices, what can I say
>>102247486
same goes to you my man

Just 4 the sake of sharing
> current build is a Quad9550 (crazy aint it?) and old passive video card, lots of 3.5&2.5''HDDs (more than 4 but not all at once)
> own a thinkpad p15s I use for work (gotta give back next spring) I use for work. Btw, terrible laptop, tremendous dissapointment
> set off building a couple weeks ago. Imagine getting up to speed coming from '08 (mega boomer I am, Stalker is still my favorite game)
> Initial premises were: efficient, silent (as possible), air cooled and second-to-last generation (in order to save) but able to get the current GOATs in some years (propably another mistake)
> soon I sat for AMD+NVIDIA meme after being an intelradeon fag & bc of AI (wrong conceptions probably
> all in with 64gb (won't change that) 6k mhz ram but didnt even considered DDR4
> The case matter got me surfing the intertubes for maybe +20hrs last days
> Looks matter kicked in. Started to build all in white, aRGB and windows. Picture myself getting hard and never having one of those (though my antec900 14 and 24 fans got classy blue leds)
> In parallel to that and my wish for a 6SATA mobo (btw, there is always the possibility of a expansion sata card, I own one already infact) I sat for the high-range AM5s (Tomahawk is cheaper than EDGE but the lookds)
> Ended with my previous overkill config

I hear you about not going premium with the M.2 sdd, non rgb ram modules. Zero knowledge of used market but I will research. Don't want to rob you more time - I will get around trying to find similar items a bit more fancy, if they do not increase budget more than 50/100eurobucks)

But I overmost I will try to find Cooler alternatives with less rpms or bigger fans. Has chosen a Dual 4060 bc of that too. PSU wise there is a Corsair RM 850 (20221) for ~120 in amazon rn
Will post again,love
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>>102245189
>their gpu mount is overpriced and poorly designed
Get one by EK before they implode or combine it with the Lian Li GB 002 gpu holder.
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>>102245189
nigga probably just bent it during installation
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Is it dumb to get one of these as a 2nd monitor for just youtube/discord or whatever?

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Q27G4XN-Adaptive-Sync-Adjustable-Zero-Bright-dot/dp/B0CPHW5JQY?th=1

The 1080p options don't seem that much cheaper, unless anyone knows a really good deal that I'm clueless about. Main monitor is Q27G3XMN
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>>102250080
Exactly. There's no way it would bend that much. I'm assuming the guy didn't even screw it in yet because if it was bent by that much you wouldn't be able to plug in your monitor cables.
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>>102250095
I honestly never heard of AOC before. Dell is a well known brand and it's practically the same price.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-g2724d/apd/210-bhxc/monitors-monitor-accessories
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>>102250135
AOC have been making monitors for fucking years.
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>>102250135
This is the first thread I've seen in the past week that I've been looking where AOC Q27G3XMN wasn't the recommended monitor.
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Is now a good time to build a new PC?
I think I want to move on finally upgrade my CPU and get a non-hobo motherboard this time.
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>>102250146
Just because they've been around doesn't meant they make good products.
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>>102249821
>two to two
Oh yeah your little shitty crop totally counts
Retards like you think the 16 GB 7six00 XT would be good for 1440p

>ratchet and clank with rt and frame gen
Again, the 4070 Ti is better than Radeon's best. I can show you the 7900 GRE suffering non-stop, and I have. No need to use Frame Gen to get playable performance with a 4070 Ti. Super Res and Geforce's good RT performance is enough

Poor delusional 7900 GRE kid, how did you think this was going to go?
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>>102250161
Then again, alot of this OPs info is different than it's been the past week.
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How is this dinky ass fan supposed to cool a 7900 XTX?
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>>102249470
thank u 2 flying anon
& last post was meant to link
>>102248082
but my hands typed that post
I will work around with all your inputs.
ASrock AM5's got nice booting times it seems although it feels a little minimal specs and no argb support (though Montech case's got it's own controller). Very nice workaround indeed nonetheless, thanks a lot
Will try to set my mind out of fancy argb components
Will try to find most silent alternatives if possible
Definitely will try to update my 10yo old display. It's not been until recently that I discovered 4k and HD displays, Ive been an hermit on this regard
paz^^
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>>102250187
By living in a case that moonlights as a wind tunnel on weekends.
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>>102250187
This looks like one of those GPUs designed for server racks. A single fan won't be able to cool it down. But if you have six 40 or 80mm fans spinning at max RPM then that fan only needs to pull cool air.
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How good is the antec atom b550? Seller pivoted from selling a raidmax to a unique super channel to the antec. Seller has good reviews but most of the reviews I see for antec are pajeet reviews (yuck) with some meh opinions from English users but I'm on a budget.
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>>102250206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GSBomNmZxI
Honestly, watching these things spin up and while idle is what stopped me from getting one. This would have been beside my bed and I would have smashed it with a hammer on day 2.
I'm happy with my workstation turned into server tower instead.
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>>102250167
Anyone?
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>>102250288
I'd wait until December
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tfw only come to pcbg these days to see dlss-kun shill the 4070 ti
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>>102250288
No. You have a decent CPU and a good GPU.
Ask yourself why you want to upgrade? Can you play your games without stuttering? Do you need a beefy CPU for work stuff?
Answer these and decide if it's time to upgrade.
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>>102250315
Gotta get stock price back up.
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>space marine 2 came out
>game actually uses CPU heavily
>steam discussions full of people with 13900ks, 14900ks and other intel processors crying that the game is broken beacuse their CPU hits 85 - 90°c while playing
kek, it's really entertaining to read
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>>102248659
Intel gpu's are superior in every way to nvidia's garbage gpu's.
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>>102250288
Your only upgrades are an inplace 5800X3D, new motherboard/ram and 7800X3D/14900K, and 4090. Now whether you need an upgrade to top of the line stuff is something that I can't really answer, do you feel like you need more performance over what is already a decent set up?
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>>102250393
when cyberpunk got its expansion everyone was complaining about the same thing. game suddenly uses more threads and now its overheating/crashing intel cpus.
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>>102250419
I keep wanting to buy a better motherboard, but I can't justify it when this gen is already over, so I'm like, if I'm ever buying a new component, I might as well switch to am5
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>>102250440
Ok but why, is there something your current motherboard can't do? Not enough pcie slots or something?
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>>102250452
No USB Type C header on it
annoys me desu
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>>102250393
I'd like to see some good cpu benchmarking for the game.
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>>102250393
Lmao yeah it's a shitshow alright
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>>102250393
>buy CPU notorious for consuming power and getting hot
>surprised pikachu face when CPU gets hot under load
These idiots should have their computers removed from them
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>>102250542
You see these sorts of people when using repacks because they never load their cpu at all and go double retard when it happens

>need to turn 3gb compressed iso into 20gb install
>chibi quadcore goes into overdrive
>"WTF INSTALLING MINERS! MY CPU GETTING TOO HOT!!!"
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>>102250393
>only 30% usage
>90 C
i wonder when people will catch on to how modern boost algorithms operate
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Anything you would improve on this? budget is 1000 usd. Case is local price
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>>102250542
>buy CPU notorious for committing seppuku
>surprised pikachu face when all modern games crash
Raptor Lake; NOT. EVEN. ONCE.
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>>102250393
>space marine 2
It's another blood bath for the VRAMemers
Can you believe retards actually though that the VRAM on the 6700 XT would make it last longer for 1440p?

>>102250415
I'm sure someone who doesn't know how to use apostrophes (you) has erudite opinions
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Is PNY a good company for GPUs?
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>>102250668
>Case is local price
Where are you located because PCPP says you can get the MAX variant with an extra included fan for less money:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b

Or if it must be white, the same price:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bQGhP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-w

For under $1000 I don't recommend a DDR5-based system. You can cut $50 going with 32GB of fast DDR4 and then add that to your GPU or CPU budget where it will do more work for you.
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>>102250720
oh dlss-kun, I love you
For anyone else buying any of those cards and expecting good 1440p Ultra performance in modern AAA games is retarded.
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BRfag here, I need a new PSU for my 4090. Someone rec'd me the Corsair HXi Series (2022), HX1500i 1500W, but it seems like it isn't ATX 3.0. I could use an adapter to fit my 4090 but I don't know if that's advisable. I don't have that many options of "high-end" PSUs here in hueland, so I'm struggling to find the parts I want.
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>>102250760
>>102250760
a third world country in south america that's around the same price I can get for good mesh cases locally. I will import everything else and a relative will bring me the GPU so I can avoid paying taxes. I wanted to future-proof so I went with a DDR5 system because of that. Or is the difference between DDR5 and DDR4 not as much?
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>>102250862
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
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>>102250720
isnt gamegpu a scam website
dont answer that question because everyone already knows it is and you're going to spew autistic shit for defending it
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>>102250888
Thank you, king
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>>102250916
or go to pcpp and look at 4090 builds and see what psus they use https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/#g=539
can maybe find something similar to your build
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>>102250944
Ohh I had no idea you could do that, nice. I'll browse through some builds.
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Is DDU still a recommended when switching from AMD to NVIDIA? Does it remove chipset drivers still? Seems llike such a hassle if it does. If i use AMD Cleanup Utility i should be fine, right?
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>>102250866
Okay, just need a bit more info:
1. Is this system primarily for gaming?
2. If so, at what resolution?

>I wanted to future-proof so I went with a DDR5 system because of that. Or is the difference between DDR5 and DDR4 not as much?
Don't buy parts on the promise of future proofing. By the time you'd want to upgrade and re-use DDR5 memory, DDR6 will be out. Just get what gives you the best performance for the price now. DDR4 vs. DDR5 on it's own is worth maybe 10-15% uplift but that's mostly using higher-end CPUs that push your total way outside of budget. Again it's basically 2X the cost for the same 2x16GB kit so I don't recommend it at this level.

On the other hand, if you don't mind used and it won't interfere with your tax evasion plans I'd recommend the 16GB 6800 XT for $360:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Radeon-RX-6800-XT-16GB-GDDR6-Graphics-Card-/126659014735
It's $40 (13%) more but absolutely destroys the 12GB 6750 XT (20 to 25% faster).
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6750-xt-gaming-x-trio/31.html
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>>102250911
It's always a scam if it doesn't praise Radeon, anon.
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>>102251014
>recommending used radeon garbage
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>last piece to be delivered is the case
>UPS delaying nonstop
fuck I hate these guys
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>>102246088
eventually
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why are these dumb fucking power connectors industry standard they're such pieces of fucking shit
i fucking hate working on these stupid fucking machines even the simplest thing takes like 2 hours to do because everything has to be a non-stop pain in the fucking ass
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>>102246234
I never knew I need one until the day I had one.
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>>102246942
> soon enough
yesterday?
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>>102251130
Ohhhh nice pepe.
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>>102251116
I'd go ahead and build an open bench now using the Mobo box as the testing surface and make sure ll your guts work as intended. You want to do that anyway before installing everything into the case first and praying it POSTs first boot without having to disassemble and reassemble parts from inside the enclosure.
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i dont have wifi built in to my mobo. is a PCIE wifi doodad the best way to go?

i duno what i'm looking for
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>>102251190
>i dont have wifi built in to my mobo. is a PCIE wifi doodad the best way to go?
Yes.
>i duno what i'm looking for
I don't know that it really matters much unless you have the latest modem/router setup, but
https://www.pcguide.com/wifi/guide/best-card-for-pc/
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>>102251131
This. Fuck 4K, fuck 5K, 8K is where it is at.
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>>102251014
nope it is for work in 3d/rendering, multitasking but most of the rules still apply. Currently the PC used has a GTX 980 which struggles to keep up and is almost 10 years old. If I'm going there anyway what would the best AM4 option be? a Ryzen 7 or a 9 thank you for your help
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>>102251190
>pcie
no, the pcie only provide the power, the signal acutally go through the usb port on your mobo
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>>102251258
>>102251190
what you want is one of these that connects directly on your mobo's wifi m2 slot
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>>102250720
The intel arc a770 is a much better purchase than a 4070 super, it not only runs much better but cost much less as well, I feel sad for you nvidia shill's having to try and scam people into buying that dogshit.
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>>102251258
>>102251266

>signal acutally go through the usb port on your mobo
then why not just go with a usb one?
if it's only getting power through the m2/pcie, if i had a usb one i could put the antenna in a better place than the back of my case, no?
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Bros, I'm trying to build a PC for the first time. Is there anything I should watch out for here? The site tells me there shouldn't be any compatibility issues between parts.
I'm also getting a mx 6 thermal paste for stuff, I heard good things about it.
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>>102251252
>nope it is for work in 3d/rendering, multitasking but most of the rules still apply.
Got it, check this as a yard stick of the important performance metric in your case:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/9.html
>If I'm going there anyway what would the best AM4 option be? a Ryzen 7 or a 9 thank you for your help
Rendering loves cores and threads and so the more you can afford to throw at it, the better.
Actually in this case a 13700K + 32GB DDR4 would give you more performance than an AM4 system or a 7700 + DDR5 at almost the same platform cost like so ($424 vs. $410):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jpvj4M

Also if any of your 3D/Rendering Apps make use of CUDA shader acceleration it might be worth swapping to an Nvidia GPU for that reason alone (you should check this!).
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is $299 for the 7600x3D worth? im trying to make something i probably wont upgrade for the next 10 years
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>>102251492
>through the m2/pcie
no dumbass. for m2, you don't need to connect to usb slot, its only if you use pcie card. and if you go with usb wifi they just don't last long. just buy the m2 slot version.
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>>102251564
without spending a ton
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>>102251528
>>102251252
Oh and if the price of the 13700K is a bit much I would go with the 12-core 5900X instead if you were dead set on AM4. There is the 16-core 5950X but as shown in >>102251528 it performs worse than the 13700K for about the same price.
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this good?
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ok, guys, i need some actual advice

I want my computer to be quiet, but i've struggled tiwh PSUs.

PCpart picker has said i need 524 watts, so i was looking at 750watt units. Oh but i have a 3000 series card, so 850 to be safe. but then i started reading reviews and realized if i just got a big ol fuck off 1000w+ PSU it would always be so underloaded that it would be super quiet.

Is this a good idea? like the NZXT C1000 has zero fan RPM until about 600w
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>>102251564
>>102251574
If you don't intend to upgrade for that long, yes. It may even be worth waiting for Black Friday and splurging for the 7800X3D where it will likely be discounted again as it's currently spiked back up to $400 because of how shit Zen 5% was but it traded around $360-375 most of the year (so put a price tracker notification on it) and that might be worth a 50-75$ premium for an extra 2 cores long-term after next-gen consoles release.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof
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BATTLEMAGE, SHOW YOURSELF
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>>102251650
If you are JUST gaming, the 5700X3D for $143 on AliExpress would be the better buy:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806921974699.html
But as an all-around general usage CPU for both Productivity & Gaming it's great.
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>>102251672
>PCpart picker has said i need 524 watts, so i was looking at 750watt units. Oh but i have a 3000 series card, so 850 to be safe. but then i started reading reviews and realized if i just got a big ol fuck off 1000w+ PSU it would always be so underloaded that it would be super quiet.
>Is this a good idea? like the NZXT C1000 has zero fan RPM until about 600w
Yes that's a classic way to do it. I presume you either run a big air cooler or a giant AIO (280/360mm) with fan curves optimized?
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>>102251781
high airflow case with 4 120mm Arctic P12 max intakes, and the same for exausts.

CPU cooler will be Arctic 34 with the fans replaces with P12 maxes. I was going to go with a bequiet! cpu cooler originally. It's only cooling a 7700

with the airflow from the Arctic fans blowing directly into the GPU, it shouldn't need to rev up it's own fans until under significant load

It's all about low fan noise at low load, and overdoing the cooling not for performance, but to prevent anything from having to rev up it's cooling anywhere near max levels
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>>102251848
Sounds good.
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>>102248545
Okay? Exactly, why is a 7900GRE 1080p then? 4070Super doesn't have the power to use the settings that require over 12GB. If it could push a playable framerate and VRAM was just holding it back you'd have an argument. If using some buggy Ubisoft game that locks away texture settings for some unoptimized texture streaming system is your example that's honestly sad. You having this "12GBbutYouCan'tLoadTextures.png" saved to your computer to totally pwn those 4070Super owners is hilariously degenerate behavior. I own a 4080 I just think it's funny telling people they need a $800 GPU to play games at 1440p because some random shitter game the entire internet laughs at is badly optimized. You people have two examples, Hogwarts and Starwars Outlaws, two terrible games. Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk with PT + FG use over 12 at settings the 4070Super cannot actually use, not because of VRAM, lack of RT cores and raw GPU power. The 4070Super could have 16GB and it would still struggle at these settings.
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>>102251258
>3000mbps card
>through usb 2.0
no dumbass the usb ports are usually for bluetooth
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>>102251650
i would not buy a 12600K in 2024 much better options. The 12600K is falling far behind and has basically nothing to upgrade to that has meaningful uplift
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>>102252113
>i would not buy a 12600K in 2024 much better options.
I would say not at the price it's fallen to.
>The 12600K is falling far behind and has basically nothing to upgrade to that has meaningful uplift
A good B660/B760 board should be able to take up to a 14900K (not that you'd necessarily want to) but the performance ceiling on the upgrade path for LGA1700 far and away exceeds that of AM4.
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Is this a decent monitor to buy if I want a 4k OLED?https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q3GhP6/lg-ultragear-32gs95ue-b-315-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-32gs95ue-b
2nd question: looks like it's about 230$ off if I get an open box version of it rated at excellent condition at a best buy near me, anyone happen to know if those are worth getting (as in it won't likely crap out on me)?
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Why in god's name would Focus charge an extra $30 the the early release of Space Marine 2 when the game doesn't have Denuvo? That's begging for people to pirate

>>102251521
Looks like you're fucking up to me. 2400 MT/s DDR4 is the biggest give away

>>102251252
>3d/rendering
You're a fool not to buy Geforce

>>102251528
>Rendering loves cores and threads
And GPUs have thousands of them
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>>102252154
>Is this a decent monitor to buy if I want a 4k OLED?https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q3GhP6/lg-ultragear-32gs95ue-b-315-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-32gs95ue-b
>$1400
Hell no. Not when the MSI QD-OLED is still in stock for $950:
https://nzxt.com/product/msi-mpg-321urx-qd-oled

>2nd question: looks like it's about 230$ off if I get an open box version of it rated at excellent condition at a best buy near me, anyone happen to know if those are worth getting (as in it won't likely crap out on me)?
So about $1150 for Open-Box? It's probably okay in all likelihood but again makes little sense if there are new 4K OLEDs monitors for less money. Could also have some stuck pixels/vignetting, etc. that you don't know about pre-purchase that isn't worth the gamble for no real savings.

Also the main reason you'd go with the LG model or any other 4K WOLED right now is the 1080p@480Hz mode or you prefer a matte finish because you can't control ambient lighting in your environment with things like shades/curtains over adjacent windows.

Otherwise, the QD-OLED in the MSI model above will look sharper and more rich from the glossy coating, have better colors due to superior gamut and volume saturation, and a more uniform image (less dirty screen effect).
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>>102252226
>2400 MT/s DDR4 is the biggest give away
I really don't get it. Those two RAMs are from an old setup that I'm reusing, are they that bad?
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>>102252154
Too expensive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xgxxFT/msi-mpg-321urx-qd-oled-315-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-mpg-321urx-qd-oled
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So, after playing Black Myth Wukong, my PC has started crashing all the time, even when I'm not playing the game. Now, when I turned it on, the computer blackscreened. I haven't been getting artifacts, so I don't think it's the GPU, which is a 3060ti. My CPU is a 1500x and an AM3 motherboard. Maybe the CPU just cooked itself? I've had it since 2017 without issues
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>>102252243
>>102252226
Well since me being stupid looks like baiting (?) I want to expand on what I'm trying to do. I posted here a few days ago asking for tips because my pc died in a power surge. After assessing the damage the things I managed to salvage were my SSD/HDD, GPU and RAM sticks. Everything else pretty much died, so I'm buying a new setup. elp
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Wild. This is getting to the point where a home computer is going to need its own dedicated breaker and outlets.
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>>102252278
Could be overheating. Tried dusting out your PC (especially the CPU cooler)? Tried resetting CMOS (either with a dedicated button on your mobo or physically taking the little battery coin out of the board for 30 seconds and putting it back in)? Does your mobo have any integrated graphics you could swap your display connection over to just to rule out the GPU if you still get a blackscreen? Failing that I'd suspect the PSU went belly up as the most likely culprit.
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>>102252149
Yeah dude maybe he can buy a second hand 14700K in a couple years that'll fail on him in a month. Huge performance ceiling there buddy.
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>>102244890
>i want to make the game even more unengaging for myself than even software macros
wow is boring as shit dude and you want to make it even more boring? i have a g15 and i dont even use the g-keys, but I like the lcd for temps voltages clocks etc
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>>102252310
no you retard they said the same fucking thing about 40 series

a 14900k and a 4090 dont even use as much power as a microwave when both are at 100% (never happens in the wild unless you're compiling all cores on the cpu and rendering on the gpu at the same time)
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>>102252395
>no you retard they said the same fucking thing about 40 series
I've read a theory about that the pre-launch info Jensen gave AIBs about the 4000 series power requirements wrt the 12VHPWR connector was purposefully higher-end than they were designing for internally so that the board partners would all put out cards with overkill coolers and not cheap out on their cards to make their temps look good on launch day and reduce RMAs over the life cycle of the generation.
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>>102252278
Its a radeon thing, upgrade to a 4070 and it'll go away.
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>>102252395
>a 14900k and a 4090 dont even use as much power as a microwave

300-400w i9 and 400-600w 4090 depending on power settings. Pretty close if not spot on some microwaves. 1000w is the average microwave, some low end ones draw 600w, some 1200w. To be fair you can undervolt a 4090 a lot and keep most performance but point still stands.
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>>102252307
12700K non-F
12900K is a power hog
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>>102252395
>>102252551
Forgot, you are absolutely right though it'll never use both at 100%.
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>>102252551
>300-400w i9
Do people really
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>>102252562
Absolutely, my 14700K draws 300w+ under multicore loads, it's hilarious.
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>>102252556
Thank you! By picking the 12700K I might have more leeway to grab better RAM. I'm looking into getting the Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2x32GB), 5200MHz, DDR5. What do you think?
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How come no one is benchmarking intel T cpus
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>>102252712
They're clown CPUs since 35W will get you 1.5ghz clockspeeds
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>>102251528
>>102251587
I found a good deal for a 12700kf at 185 so I think I'll go with that and maybe a slightly better board but yeah I didn't consider it at first because of the whole thing going on with Intel right now and Ryzen has worked well for me so far. Thanks a lot

>>102252226
>You're a fool not to buy Geforce
They gave me a budget I'm not about to spend 450 for a worse performing RTX 4060 Ti (compared to a 6800) or half of it and then some on a 4070
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guys I need a webcam for an interview with a university

perferably one of these cameras
https://www.pccasegear.com/category/1141/streaming-video-capture

pls help me out
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>>102252743
theres not much difference between non k and k cpu in gaming so i would assume T and non k won't be too different too
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>>102252750
>I found a good deal for a 12700kf at 185 so I think I'll go with that and maybe a slightly better board but yeah I didn't consider it at first because of the whole thing going on with Intel right now and Ryzen has worked well for me so far. Thanks a lot
No problem. Keep in mind the issues with Intel currently don't even impact 12th Gen.

>They gave me a budget I'm not about to spend 450 for a worse performing RTX 4060 Ti (compared to a 6800) or half of it and then some on a 4070
Just for the CUDA support (again only if your rendering apps support it), might take a look at used 3070/3080s.
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>>102252558
>>102252551
>>102252473
>>102252395
My issue is that if you also run speakers, monitors and any other random crap on the same outlet you run the risk of a breaker trip. At full load you are pushing 8 amps on just the computer alone. Add other random crap onto the circuit and you get a tripped 15 amp breaker. Note that 15 amp breakers are only really supposed to have loads at 12 amps.
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>>102252772
It's an interview with a university, not an OnlyFans stream. Go with the cheapest option.
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>First attempt
>already mogs amd in ai, upscaling, rt, media production and price-performance
what will intel show us in battlemage
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>>102252772
Aussie aussie aussie!

Just get whatevers got a decent camera, look up a review of the basic bitch logitechs
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>>102252772
use your phone camera. install camo on ur pc
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>>102252708
Why do you need 64 GB?
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>>102252750
>worse performing
You really are a fool
Look at the benchmark I posted
3060 12 GB > 7900 XTX
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>>102252954
Well, I'm a dork that leaves tons of things open aka pretending to be multitasking (I can't really live without having my usual 125 browser tabs open kek)
Other than gaming I also draw (using clip studio), I would rather not having to worry about RAM during those taks, I guess? Is 64 overkill?
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>>102252997
Go for 64gb if you can sure it's more expensive but yesterdays 8 required 16 recommended is becoming 32 required 64 recommended
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>>102244702
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7900 GRE
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>>102253013
Alright, I'll buy it! Thanks for helping me out tonight, fren.
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So, my GPU lights up, but it shows no signal on my monitor. I tried putting it into another PCIE slot, but it still doesn't work. My Motherboard also doesn't post or beep into the bios like usual. Is my GPU dead, or is it my Motherboard? Also, my CPU fans are pulsing when I turn it on, and my GPU backplate is unusually hot when switching PCIE slots.
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>>102252551
you will never see a 4090 draw 600w unless it is overclocked
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Hey /g/uys I'm a solo dev doing my own art and rendering my own cutscenes, I've got a decent skeleton of a PC (32GB RAM, AM4 mobo, solid PSU), but I've been turbopoor my whole life and haven't managed to get a real CPU and GPU in this thing since I built it years ago. My shitty APU makes every process painful and awful.

>What's a decent price-performance CPU/GPU combo to aim for for this kinda load?
>Do RT cores actually matter for rendering?
>Are AMD RT cores shit?
>Is AMD actually better for multi-threaded workloads or is it cope?
>Is AM4 fucked now, should I just eat the cost and buy a new mobo?
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>>102250438
sounds like an intel aviv problem.
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>>102251572
i see. cheers, friend.
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>>102252839
it isnt 1999 anymore, we arent running crts and plasma anymore. LED lit screens use like 50w.

i run 2 computers with 6 drives each in them, 2 monitors, a big huge stereo amplifier, and also a 2.1 pc speaker system in addition to that amplifier that requires its own power source all off one outlet and its fine

i wouldnt do this with two 13-14th gen i9s and 4090s though kek
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>>102253108
amd wont come close in rendering. in your case gpu maters way more than cpu so consider buying a 4090
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>>102250393
i love antisemitism so much its unreal
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Remember, one intel cpu = 1 dead palestinian
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>>102253108
I suggest waiting for the 5090 coming out soon, set aside $1200 in NVDA stocks and when it comes out in November you can sell the NVDA stock to get the 5090 with spare change leftover.
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>>102252938
>>102252923
going for the cheap stremify webcam, the video quality is good enough and i have a seperate microphone anyway

Can't believe i was accepted into this program, it starts next month!
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>>102253227
is it worth it though? doing taxes for this little gain costs more than the gain
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>>102250438
worked like a charm on my 7700x, 60C' max
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>>102252839
16A breakers are the standard in EU. life is much easier wiwth 220-240v.
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Apparently 4090 tier card export got sanctioned in my country too. RDNA5 here we go!
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>>102253269
Yes NVDA will hit $280 by november
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>>102253311
Welcome brother rdna 2 was great 3 is a bit of a Vega tier dumpster fire the OEM reference cards where shit my 79xtx is great however

Just don't buy stock
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>>102252920
Love my a770 it's just meh for gaming
I'll chuck it in a htpc soon
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>>102253389
Strong doubt, even more startups will go bankrupt by then, Trump will take the office and it may boost the price, I guess that would be the time to sell.
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>>102253401
I have 79xt and lvoe it, with undervolt I can chug RT games at 230w, feel stupid for not adding 15k tugriks for XTX now I bet it could've done the same at lower wattage because moar cores.
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Just ordered a 4090 to replace my struggling 4070ti. How bad did I fuck up?
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>>102253448
You fucked up by buying the same gen twice
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>>102253440
Mine barely goes over 300 sometimes it hits 415w but not often
It's pretty fast 4080-4090d performance for under a third of the price
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>>102253448
Should have "struggled" until the 5090 gets released in Jan
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>>102244869
That cpu isn't supported for windows 11. You won't receive any security updates to your os after october of 2025 unless you use windows 10 ltsc. Also that ssd isn't very big. Half of it is going to be used by the os. You might want to get a cheap ssd if you want to game with it.
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>>102246538
>192gb of ram for the memes, gonna go with that type but not certain on the capacity yet
enjoy your 10 min boot times
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>>102253108
if you're still a poorfag the 5900X and 5950X are still great multi threaded drop in performers but the gaming performance is a generation behind, technically two gens behind if you count the 7800X3D performance as its own gen.
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>>102253448
Is your 4070ti dead?
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>>102250393
try playing far cry 5 / 6 on an amd cpu xD
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>>102244702
SN850X 8tb for $1300 dollarydoos - yay or nay?
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>>102253413
wasted on an htpc. put it in a server

for htpc do 1060 or something
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>>102254021
for that money you could get a budget motherboard with m.2 pcie adapters filling all the slots and get like 8 cheap 2tbs and run RAID0 8TB with redundancy for same performance
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>>102253836
I keep running into VRAM issues and start stuttering. Also performance at 4k is lacking, even with DLSS.
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>>102244702
Assuming I will have one C drive to install the OS and programs on and one D drive that I will download files and install video games on what storage device combination do I need to have to ensure longevity without losing out on performance?
I've heard NVMEs lose out their lifespan the more you things you write on them.

Would an NVME for OS drive and a 2.5" SSD for D drive be correct?
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>>102254114
Just one SSD is the simplest solution. You can partition it so you have two different drives in your operating system.

If you need a lot of storage, 4 TB 2.5" SSD is about $40 cheaper than a 4TB NVME SSD, so while you save some money it's not a huge difference. Buying a single 4TB NVME SSD is probably your best bet.
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>>102254079
I have am5 and only have 1 free gen4.0 slot
I dont think there's enough pcie lanes to pull that off
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>>102254212
You'd be better off installing a SATA SSD or upgrading your motherboard, than buying that overpriced shit for $1300.
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>>102254064
Id probably get another 2060 for
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>>102251672
>>102251781
>>102251848
RMx user here. 0 RPM PSU is nice and all, but you will always hear your case, GPU and CPU fans before you hear your PSU fans.
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>>102254212
buy pcie m.2 adapters and upgrade your motherboard then
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>>102250393
>they are messing around with regedit to turn off cpu boost
LOL
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>>102250393
Fking noobs lmao
Did they just surprise Pikachu from their nuclear reactors running a little warm when the transistors aren't actually sleeping for once??
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>>102254562
But it fixed his temps. Must be a good solution.
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>>102254101
LOL
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>>102254610
>>102254610
>>102254610
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>>102254592
Did he turn turbo/avx off or what
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>>102250720
>peoples CPU get hot
>the local retard: MUH VRAM
you can't make this shit up.
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>>102250257
Antec used to be the white man's brand before zoomies fell for the fishtank meme and ignore brands outside Lian Li and Hyte. Anyway, just get a meta case with loads of coverage if you're having second thoughts.



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