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>unbound>dnscrypt-proxy>dnscrypt-proxy running on port 53000>unbound on 53>enable dnscrypt-proxy>feelsgoodman>enable unbound>feelsbadman>"fatal error: dnsc_parse_certs: failed to load /etc/dnscrypt-proxy/public.key: No such file or directory">public key does exist and dnscrypt-proxy uses it>???
>>102259732Does unbound's user have permission to access dnscrypt's key directory? Did you check journalctl or whatever for MAC violations?
so is cosmic dead yet
>>102260037I copied the keys chmod/chown'd them to unbound and it still errors>mac errorsNothing in journalctl except thread cache hits/misses
>>102260092https://x.com/carlrichell/status/1831714130916434008https://x.com/carlrichell/status/1831714915654021171https://x.com/carlrichell/status/1831726411461120474
>>102260122That's a fucking awful UI. I know what the difference is (one requires clicking, the other focuses by hovering) but they should really have some description.Their settings app looks worse than KDE and people constantly hate on KDE for that yet Cosmic in its Alpha state gets praised.
>>102260183>That's a fucking awful UIDon't care, unlike GNOME it has features without going overboard like KDE.
What are some distros a privacy schizo can use as a daily driver? Not tails or qubes, something regular that's just very secure or can be configured to be very secure
>>102260243KDE has features too I was just pointing out the hypocrisy. Why does KDE get shat on so much for poor UI design yet Cosmic in its broken Alpha state gets a pass?I hope if it's still like that when it's stable they get some well deserved criticism. It looks a bit like a toy right now. It looks like programmers built it instead of designers and you know what? That's okay if that's what you're going for. System76 is going to be shipping this to their paying customers though.
>>102260292Parrot:https://parrotsec.org/No, I've not used it before. It has a good reputation though.
>>102260292Stop playing security theater. Acquire basic bwrap / networking skills and disable GPU acceleration for anything with internet access. All the distro has to do is provide updates and not be utterly retarded.
>>102260483lmao>>102260292alpine or devuan
>>102260483>Parrotprovide updates: fail>>102260905>alpineprovide updates: passnot be utterly retarded: fail>devuanprovide updates: fail
>>102259591How do I figure out what dependencies I'm missing to make a game run on wine?
I just installed Arch on my old 2012 MacBook Pro. Now what? I want the i3 wm
>>102261194sudo pacman -S i3-wm
>>102261156Check appdb.winehq.org and protondb.
>>102261005>provide updates: fail
>>102261226i don't need xorg and all that x shit?
>>102261421Those packages will get pulled in as dependencieshttps://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.htmlhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/title/I3
After years of copy pasting chown and chmod commands from guides I've finally set 15 minutes aside to just look up what the fuck they mean and do.I didn't expect it to be so easy kek.
>>102261356Debian falls at updating basic internet having desktop packages in a timely manner. Everything downstream from Debian fails even harder.
>>102261561It's Debian testing not stable. It's a rolling release. It's not going to catch on fire like Arch but still has packages that aren't completely outdated.
>>102261260>protondbShould I check protondb even if I'm not using proton?
>>102259591What's the recommended way to go about adding third-party software to Gentoo? Adding overlays seems like kind of a messy solution compared to having a single centralized repo like the AUR.
>>102261005What about hyperbola? Or is the rolling release shit an issue?
>>102261981Replying to>>102260905
How do you run services in separate chroots using systemd service files>dockerno
>>102259591>hmm, my vm.sh qemu script looks kinda dumb, I need some proper minimal vm config manager>maybe I should try libvirt with virsh>https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.htmlNah, I'm fine with my qemu script
>>102262017Nigger Docker is literally the best fucking option to do this. Baremetal performance with isolation and multiple configuration options.But if your autistic ass insists then the correct way to approach it is to use systemd-nspawnSee: https://superuser.com/questions/961165/start-systemd-nspawn-systemd-container-on-boot
systemd-nspawn
>>102261442You lied to me, installing i3-wm alone doesn't install any xorg things, i have no xinit or startx
>>102262510That's just Arch for you. Most distros would at least pull the Xorg server.
>>102262510Use a DM, don't be autistic.
What do you guys use for quick calculations?- A dedicated graphical calculator app is straight-forward but isn't that portable, likely won't be scriptable, and might not be as fast to use as something with a CLI.- Using your scripting language of choice via eval or a REPL can be convenient, but it's arguably unnecessary to load up an interpreter for a simple set of calculations.- Every machine is going to have `bc` on it, but I have a feeling it can get annoying having to remember to change scale for different operations and things like that.- Something else, like a third-party bc replacement? I haven't tried any, and they're probably convenient for a personal machine but may not be accessible on others.
>>102262705Krunner
>>102262605eww no
>>102262705Python or Ruby shell
>>102262510sudo pacman -S xorg-xinitstartxbe less retarded next time
sudo pacman -S xorg-xinitstartx
>>102262728This.It is also useful for more complicated calculations like calculating bitrate for 4chan webms
>>102263219See >>102259591>Friendly GNU/Linux Thread>Friendly
Zsh with plugins is so much faster and smoother than bash, I wonder why people still keep using bash.
>>102263242I use fish personally. I like it's autocomplete.
>>102263219you also need xorg-server, retard
>>102262510just download the xorg group and be done with it
why are some things called server and some daemon? aren't both just programs running in the background?
>>102263254ill have to check that out, i usually work on cisco ios and i love the tab completion and ? functionality if i forget a command but get enough of the chars right to be able to remember the syntax
>>102263301Server is a general name for applications that are serving clients. Servers aren't only run in background.Daemons run primarily in the background, and they don't necessarily serve clients that connect to them, they may have different functions.
>>102261635Yes. Proton isn't very different from wine.
>>102261631>Debian testingActually worse than stable wrt updates.>It's not going to catch on fire like ArchMaybe you just suck at Linux?
What is standard practice for setting up a mount point in Linux. Can I just make a folder in /mnt with my user as the owner?
>>102263340Fish has a thing where it shows you an autocomplete suggestion in grey, which you can use if you press ctrl+f by default. The suggestion is either a command you previously ran (I think it remembers them on a per-folder basis too) or a folder or something you might want to move it. It also has the regular tab autocomplete, but I find this one to be useful often.
>>102263464General etiquette is to mount disks in /mnt and removable drives in /media. Yeah making a folder in /mnt is fine.
>some kde features don't work in wayland>some kde features don't work in x11I hate transitional periods.
>>102263466Zsh has the same functionality with one of these plugins: plugins=(git zsh-autosuggestions zsh-syntax-highlighting)Ble.sh also have this, but ble.sh is slow like ass compared to Zsh
>>102263532I might check out zsh one of these days then. It's a feature I didn't wanna lose which is why I always ignored zsh.
>>102263561I also like "command not found" script for Zsh from Arch wiki, very cool
>>102263492Thanks
Say I have a directory named in Japanese like so:"潜在的"and I have no way of inputting or copying the first character of the name. How could I move/delete it? Moving the other files in the directory are out of the question.
>>102263715rm <TAB> <TAB> <TAB> <TAB>
>>102263384Cool, thanks for responding.
>>102263715or you can use TUI file managers like MC
>>102263729Using BASH and that only shows me the files.Am I missing something?
>>102263751rm -r
>>102262728>>102263222That's a cool builtin, although I am not going to install Plasma or whatever else just for a calculator. It does answer my question, though, as to what people use>>102263200Yeah that's what I've been using myself, but it feels like using a muscle car to visit the supermarket two blocks away
>>102263758You can use it without KDE (except on Wayland because it relies on Plasma specific protocols instead of the standard wlroots layer shell which didn't exist at the time Krunners Wayland support was added) but you might not like all the KDE dependencies it'll pull.
what should I use my GNU/Linux laptop for? The monitor died and I bought a new computer. Now I have the screen-less laptop plugged into a TV to watch youtube.
>>102263773Good to know, thanks, but I don't think it would be worth the deps, as you note.>except on WaylandYeah, well, about that...
>>102263886>>except on Wayland>Yeah, well, about that...I mean it does work if a compositor implements the Plasma specific protocols but so far that's just KWin. It doesn't make sense for other compositors when Wlroots layer shell exists.
>>102263715First just number the files>ls | nlFind the number you want and then you can rename it like:>mv $(ls head -n | tail -1) newnamereplace 'n' with the line numberAlthough as another anon said it might be useful to have a TUI file manager on hand for stuff like this. Other good choices are vifm or lfm/ranger.I like vifm because it also has a "--choose-dir" option, where you can visually enter the directory you want, and then close it and it will output the directory name which you could cd into or whatever.
>>102263584Fish supposedly has that too, although on my arch installation it's not working.
>>102260092its not even alive yetignore cosmic shills
How do I properly set up partitions for dual booting two linux distros on a single drive?
>>102263993Sorry forgot a pipe>>mv $(ls | head -n | tail -1) newname
>>102262017use rootless podman if you dont want docker because it runs as root
>>102263993>>102264011Oh also you might have to quote it, so this should be the right way:>mv "$(ls | head -n | tail -1)" newnamesorry for the mistakes
>>102262605>Use a DM, don't be autistic.lightdm runs as root and is xorg-onlysddm is bloated with many dependenciesgdm is also bloated with many dependenciesgreetd is shit
>>102263993>>102264011>>102264037Interesting, I'll try it out.Thank you!!
I use two different chromium browsers and I need them to have different volume settings, but pulsemixer shows them both as "Chromium: Playback" remembers just last volume set for both, how do I fix it? What other program I can use to configure volume for them?