>>102302294
ah yes the 1440p 4080 super classic

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>>102302338
Correct

>>102302349
show the multi game average goy

>>102302360
What use is that when it includes games like csgo?

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>>102302294
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
Does it hurt being this retarded?

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I want that individual control for maximum autism, right?

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>>102302372
onononono

all at native res btw

just admit the 4080 super is a 4k card jew

>>102302349
these charts are so useless

- AVG literally doesn't matter. only the 1% low matters
- nobody cares about the performance in a single video game, and probably a bloated AAA one at that. most people playing video games on PC probably don't even play new AAA games.

>>102302393
indeed

>>102302410
16GB VRAM, was originally the 4070, nothing 4K about it.

>>102302433
the 4070 ti was originally going to be called the "4080 12gb" the 16 gig version was always intended to be a 4k card

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>>102302455
16GB is not even enough for 1080p these days.

Sorry boyo, the proof is in the pudding.

>>102302501
>using a game that flopped horribly and is just another ubislop title to prove 16gb is no longer enough

autism

>>102302392
He isn’t wrong tho

justify playing games at 4k60fps over 1440p144fps
excluding badly coded games that tie game speed to framerate

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>>102302520
>i-i-i-it doesn't count!

>>102302393
I can't think of any scenario where you want to change pump speed and fan speed differently from each other. The thing already runs at 100% pump speed when the fans are running at 40%.

>>102302543
do YOU plan on buying and playing star slop outlaws?

>>102302537
1440p 144fps is way more computationally expensive than 4k 60fps which leads to high noise and framepacing issues because your CPU or Memory can't keep up with the logic and thats not a (badly coded game) thing thats just directX.

7900xtx red leader standing by amd bros report in we eating good

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Sapphire pulsing hard cocks amd

AMD not competing = start saving for a $3000 5090 now.

>>102302537
>>102302673
Turn on AFMF2 + AntiLag and now you dont need 144fps memes anymore. Just stick with a 4k OLED and get a better experience.

>>102302640
red devil 6950xt gang

>>102302708
Nvidia has no reason to give you guys a 5090 at all when they can just sell it to datacenters for more money.

It's the same logic with AMD. No reason to make high end for consumers when its more valuable to datacenters. They dont care about your FPS or Raytracing or "muh features". They just want compute and vram.

>>102302729
Brother
I had a 69xt loved it but didn't age so well compared to my 79xtx

A770 aged horribly loool
>>102302713
Tried it I'll wait for the official 24.11 drivers

>>102302776
a MPT tuned 6900xt is faster than a 7900XT 20gb. xtx still wins but you have to deal with all the chiplet issues that 6900xt doesnt have.

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>>102302537
like another anon said: 1440/144 costs more than 2160/60

but anybody who would choose 60fps today over 90-144 is just out of touch.

not to mention *steps onto soap box* that you should never use UI scaling because it uses resources and looks bad. always keep OS scaling to 100%. because of this, you have to choose a monitor that closely matches what PPI the OS is designed for
>windows and linux: 96ppi
>macos: 110ppi

therefore(assuming you use windows or linux for the following example):

inches/resolution/ppi
22 1080 = 102
24 1080 = 93
27 1440 = 110
32 1440 = 92
40 2160 = 110
48 2160 = 92

get it? with any of these, you'd never need scaling. it's straight up free real estate and no problems. you could use scaling if it's 200% but very few monitors exist that can even do that. you'd need a 24" 2160p to get 185ppi, and only one from LG is currently made AFAIK, in a lame 60hz IPS for $300. not really worth buying.

just choose a monitor based on the screen size you want. the resolution then chosen to match what the OS was designed for.

>>102302776
I got my 6950xt for $600 also came with the last of us part one and then I sold my 2070 super for $250 it was a great value for money at the time back in May 2023

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>>102302759
Yeah ching hangwangwongchong said their gonna make more mid-range shitters and I'm fine with that I'll just skip them for 5-10 years or 3 gens if that's the case like my 390x I couldn't kill and that fucking 2080ti that wouldn't die I'll be fine for a long time on rdna 3 high end

>>102302793
I had one lol pulled 450-550w spiked even higher sold that system 3yrs ago I miss it a lot but the xtx is faster cooler and about the same noise but can't hear shit over 5x 3k rpm server fans in my old p180

>>102302804
nvidiabros, our narrative

>>102302832
>medium

>>102302759
they will give gamers 85% enabled yields for $2k and only provide the full fat or near full fat dies to DC

>>102302804
embarrassing
no wonder they keep shoving dlss cope down our necks

>>102302825
when the xtx works its great, especially the powercolor version. its just a shame that devs dont care for it as much. wow has unresolved nonstop dx12 crashing issues with it. kingdom hearts collection was broken on it for months until amd decided to fix it after 500+ complaints on steam.

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>>102302803
Kino GPU dunno how the 16gb vs my 24gb Will age my a770 didn't age so well so I'll bin it to my htpc
>>102302832
>>102302855
Finewine ©®@™

>>102302855
Seems to make sense here though, doesn't it? Using ultra settings only the 4090 and 7900XTX even reach 60 fps 1% lows.

>>102302895
Dlss is poo
Fsr and afmf2 at least work on everything but I don't like it so I don't use it
>>102302898
Had zero issues especially in VR which I had on my 69xt

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>>102302713
you still need a monitor with that refresh rate lol

how good are these driver-level frame generation tools? is it "good enough" now? LSFG and AFMF2 are the ones I know of. apparently LSFG does 4x frames now, which sounds totally crazy if it looks even remotely playable. imagine going from 60fps to like 200fps(not 240 due to the resource cost) for free. I can't tell how good it looks in youtube videos due to the shitty bitrate.

>>102302929
I used LSFG X2 on alan wake 2 at 1440p and I have to say it was great going from around 70-80 fps to near locked 144fps input latency was not too bad and the actual frames themselves looked ok, I have not tried AFMF 2 but the first version kinda sucked ass

>>102302929
For best latency you want 2x mode. The higher x modes give you better visuals at lower fps (perfect for cgi cutscenes or anime) but they have bigger latency penalty and higher performance cost.

AFMF2 is same as LSFG 2x but with less latency but its still in beta so there's more artifacts than LSFG.

5060 will have a 64 bit bus 8GB VRAM and draw 95w (12VHPWR connection needed). Cost will be $400.

>>102302804
>4K Medium Native
AMDUnboxed will pull any dirty trick to make their mid tier trash look better than it is

who plays anything 4K Medium Native? What a retarded fake benchmark

>>102302971
>>102303009
do the frames look good enough such that, in any slower-paced game like Alan Wake or Flight Simulator or whatever, it's an automatic enable? i wonder why more people don't talk about these tools. it seems like a paradigm shifting idea that you can just turn on some tool and 2-4x your performance lol.

>>102303044
Alan wake 2 was basically the perfect use case slow paced and more story driven single player title and in X2 mode the frames look good enough for that, I cannot comment about the X3 or X4 modes but I personally just won't use them because I know the input latency will increase sharply along with a general decline in visual quality

>>102303044
The less deviance between frames (in both render time and visual makeup) the better all framegen gets. Plus the higher the base framerate the less time the generated frame is going to be displayed, which masks any errors it makes. MSFS is a prime use case for it as scenes change relatively slowly and I would generally say alan wake II would work well, but I bet the combat where you break the shield of enemies would look turbo shit as that is very particle heavy.

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>>102303044
>i wonder why more people don't talk about these tools.
everyone is talkin about it already. you wont see it go more mainstream until playstation and xbox start whipping out their custom super resolution+framegen solution soon for their next models.

to put in perspective, ffxvi demo pre-rendered cutscenes run at locked 30fps. with afmf2 they now look like 60fps. if you do lsfg x4 it looks like a convincing 120fps. but dont try to play game with x4 or afmf2 because it already has built in fsr3 fg but it doesnt apply to cgi.

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>>102302804
And when you are actually playing 4K Ultra like you are meant to it gets predictably fucking raped

4K Medium lmao gtfoh you fucking copers

>>102303042
I posted ultra benchmark here
>>102302673
It's 90% as fast for 50% or less of the price seems insane not to buy it

>>102303168
How is being 90% as fast without nvidiass PT rt AI dlss fg bullshit for 33% of the price a bad thing? 4090s are 3000aud here and 79xtx high end are 1350aud it's a no fucking brained decision to keep with Nvidia at this point I paid more for my 69xtx and entry level 2080ti kek

i dont know bros.
switching from 144fps to 60fps is such a massive slowdown to me. i regularly use 144fps machines and 60fps machines and there's really a noticeable difference.

>>102302294
>avoid 4000d
May I ask, why?

>>102303230
i thought the same until lsfg

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mfw 7900xtx

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-udna-to-unify-gaming-and-data-center-gpu-architectures-successor-to-rdna-and-cdna

>>102303236
Too expensive for a case with terrible airflow

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About to start fully upgrading my PC for the first time in 8 years. Right now, I'm stuck on getting a case. I'm someone of simple tastes, who wants a case with a simple design and good airflow. I can't stand all of these flashy, over-designed, RGB 1337 HAX0R GAYMER cases with the fragile glass panels that literally explode if you do so little as sneeze on them.

I found picrel and really like the aesthetic, but reviews on it are extremely mixed as far as airflow, noise, and cable management. If anyone here has this case, what's your take on it?

>>102303300
GCN IS BACK BABY

>>102303300
Radeon DNA + Compute DNA = Ultimate DNA

>>102303236
There's better cheaper options like the fractal pop air

>>102303338
the airflow is fine, it's just expensive and doesn't come with anything like a fan hub or rgb hub and only comes with two fans

>>102303351
The Pop Air is pretty nice, and it has the option of a metal side panel so you’re not forced to buy a glass panel if you don’t want to. Comes with 3 fans and two 5 1/2 drive bays as well

>>102303377
>>102303389
Told you all a few threads back it was happening

>>102303402
So where does xilinx fit into this?

>>102303351
I have it great case make sure you check your measurements if you want to use the side intake fans.

So, I'm planning to upgrade into a RTX4080.
However, it seem that I fucked up when selecting my motherboard (1700 socket) and now even if I upgrade to a I5 -13400f, I'm still bottleneck by 35%.
Should just upgrade to 3080TI (while upgrading CPU) or I fucked and I should just by a new Motherboard-

>>102303414
No idea, Lisa probably just bought them for their patents and as passive revenue

>>102302708
why? my used 6700xt is twice as powerful as I need

>>102303448
It should be easy to maintain a GPU bottleneck with that hardware on 1440p or higher. Keep the settings high and cap your FPS below the CPU limit (which should be in the 150+ range tbf).

>>102303251
Never heard of it.

>>102303479
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

>>102303448
Let me guess, you used some dumb bottleneck calculator and are now thinking it's 100% correct. I bet you don't even know how bottlenecks work regarding GPU and CPU.
Just get the 4080 and when you have more money in 5-10 years then get a better CPU. If you get the 3080ti and want to upgrade you're going to want to upgrade both CPU and GPU.

Also stop using that shitty bottleneck calculator website. It does nothing.

>>102303477
So, buy the 13th gen cpu and 4080 and max everything on a 1440p monitor?

>>102303448
what is your current cpu

>>102303492
>steam
i use linux on my 60fps machines.

>>102303518
What CPU do your currently have?

>>102303521
i5-12400

>>102303537
a 12700k will be good enough for 90% of the time with a 4080

>>102303518
>>102303537
Honestly I wouldn't even bother upgrading to a 13400. Buy the 4080 and get a 14600K (+BIOS update) if you encounter CPU issues in normal gameplay.

>>102303300
So what does it mean to a consumer plebeian like me? Also isn't this like going back to GCN, which had good compute that wasn't always utilized well in games?

>>102302349
>66% Upscaling
That's not 1440p you fucking console ape.

>>102303477
>>102303512
>>102303547
>>102303554
Thanks you all

>>102302294
is it possible to have 128GB ram in a asus rog maximus X formula? if so, which ram do i need?
is it possible to have 128gb ram in a asus rog maximus xi formula? if so which ram do i need?
cant find any 4 x 32gb ram sticks

>>102303338
Terrible airflow is quite a bold statement considering the 4000d was praised by its good... airflow.
You could say it lacks usb ports on the front and has mediocre default fans probably, but it's alright, maybe a little bit expensive.

>>102303617
Honestly, if you want more than 64GB of RAM it's not good to use pcpartpicker. Check workstation or server stores. They sell those sticks to people who actually need it. It's probably not tested for consumer grade motherboards but you could try.

>>102303617
just buy 2 2x32GB kits
you won't be able to use xmp so you have to overclock manually

>>102303617
Where do you live? If you're in Canada check Canada Computers server parts.
Here's one I use on a Super Micro server.
https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/server-memory/250937/kingston-fury-renegade-pro-128gb-4x32gb-ddr5-6000mhz-cl32-ecc-rdimm-kf560r32rbek4-128.html

I think I'm going to buy a radeon gpu

>>102303663
>>102303707
i need ddr4. i dont need to overclock btw. happy running them as standard. first computer build

>There’ll be one unified architecture, both Instinct and client [consumer].
massively retarded

>>102303719
think all you want in the end we all know you'll buy nvidia

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>>102303766
It is to unify the ISA - an issue that has been plaguing ROCm as support across the last few generations has been really spotty.

>>102302349
Is Black Myth Wukong with Cinematic settings your only example? You use it quite a lot, not sure if you are retarded or just baiting, probably both. Why not show actual native res and not 66%? Oh because it's instantly unplayable on all of them huh? Almost like that setting is not meant to be used and just like RDR2 has settings to scale with future GPUs.

>>102303765
>first computer build
Okay, I'm gonna stop you there. Just get 32GB or 64GB. Why do you even need 128GB RAM for?

>>102303825
>Why do you even need 128GB RAM for?
music production.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lb6Zsh

Anything will be an upgrade from my falling apart ~6 year old laptop. I want a small case that doesn't look ugly. Used mainly for programming, with a small bit of blender/strategy gaming. Nothing insane.

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Looking to make a generational update on my CPU soon

Already have a Cooler, SSDs, PSU, so only changing out my motherboard and CPU and RAM

Maybe I'll just onto the newest meme the 7600x3d

But these are my current picks, anything I'm missing?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h9YC34

>>102303617
Yes to both
Get a 4x32gb kit to minimize any chance of instability
>https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=131072004&xcx=0&b=ddr4&sort=price&page=1

>>102303920
thanks. which mhz should i get? currently bought corsair vengeance pro rgb 2 x 16gb (bought 2 packs of 2 x 16gb) at 3200mhz
but i can just sell them to my friend and get something from what you showed me instead. many thanks

>>102303300
So my rdna 3 79xtx will be one of the last until rdna 5 guess I'll wait til udna7
>>102303448
My 13600k is starting to bottleneck my 79xtx hard and it's only gonna get worser
>>102303287
Based

>>102303942
2666mhz since that's the supported speed for 8th/9th gen and running quad ranks of ram per channel will make xmp pointless anyway.
you could try your luck with 3200mhz but I strongly doubt 3600mhz will work at all

>>102303850
Yeah, you don't need 128GB of RAM.

What's the best value AM5 CPU?

>>102304102
The 13600k

It is possible that the 5070ti comes out next year? And what about the price? 3070ti costed 600usd on release.
I want to pay 600usd max for a 1440p card, and I'm close to buy the 4070 super, but I'm afraid that the 5070ti at 600usd could obliterate the 4070 super in terms of performance... but I wanna play mh Wilds and ff16 on launch...

What the fuck can I do guys, please enlighten me.

>>102304135
Aren't Intel CPUs going through that massive shitstorm?
or am I behind on the news again

>>102304102
7600

>>102304164
Dang, I guess I'm not upgrading for a while then, On a 5700X and the increase in performance doesn't seem like it's worth the cost yet.

>>102304206
Oh yeah there's not much reason to upgrade from Zen 3 to Zen 4/5 outside of maybe the 7800X3D for high refresh rate gaming
and even then the 5700X3D can be found for pretty cheap at times, and already offers excellent gaming performance

Youtube comment upset that his 6800xt is trash now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxAQFdpm4JU

>6800 XT user here. I’m surprised by these results. I remember reviews for the 7000 GPUs showed very little improvement, now they are up by a lot.
lol
>And it’s also weird to see the 6800xt at 1080p it is performing behind the 4060 ti and 3070. Of course once the resolution goes up to 1440p and 4K the 16gb of vram shows off a bit more. I am still overall surprised how it’s performing compared to where I thought it would be.
lol

>>102304278
Yeah, I was looking at the 5700X3D, but I wasn't sure if it was a smart move to jump from a 5700X to the 5700X3D considering the price, and was looking to see if other CPUs had a more substantial boost, but I guess not, 1080P, high refresh rate gamers be suffering.

What's the non meme best value 1080p amd card?

Why did no one tell me the lancool 216 front panel has that old plastic bullshit where you gotta pull really hard and you can break it
Seriously the case is sturdy as shit but I've seen 50 dollar cases with better mechanisms for the front panel

>>102304146
Massively overblown for the average person. Big issue for specifically for the i9 14900K (15%+ failure rate) then drastically reduces every skew down. 14700K has a 0.7% - 1.1% failure rate. You can reduce most degradation if it hasn't occurred yet by limiting voltage below 1.41v in bios without much performance loss.

>>102304416
Hmm, I'm lazy
can you switch CPU Brands without reinstalling OS now?

seriously why haven't any new GPU's been announced yet. It's september, it's been 2 years shit they are announcing new iphones today and nothing at all what is the hold up

RX 7600 XT or above comes with free Space Marine 2 & Uknown9 Awakening

4070 or above comes with free Star Wars Outlaws

How much of a meme would it be to get an Arc GPU?

>>102304446
It will work but you will lose performance because intel CPUs have e-cores which relies on windows scheduling it correctly which isn't guaranteed coming from a Ryzen install of windows (and vice versa)

>>102304287
They're using the AMD beta driver and it has worse performance than the UWP driver.

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>>102302415
>- AVG literally doesn't matter
exactly, when will the reviewers learn to calculate median?

>>102304532
very much a meme

>>102304532
if you know what you need it for exactly they are decent

>>102304464
>they are announcing new iphones today and nothing at all what is the hold up
read this sentence again and figure it out yourself.

>in search for a quiet 5-600W SFX PSU
>every single option is from 2019 and you can bet the manufacturer has "refeshed" the design with Aliexpress caps

Fucking lovely.

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Should i just get a 5700x3d and light OC it, instead of a 5800x3d for almost $100 more?

>>102304623
It's never mattered before now is the time September is the month

>>102304645
okay, GDDR7 isn't ready, nvidia got nothing until early 2025
AMD AIBs already testing RDNA4 but it's only the rumor

>>102304287
>1080p ultra 80+ fps, 1440p ultra 70+ fps
i dont see the problem, its playable?

>>102304644
You can't really OC the 5700X3D. Well, you can but it's hacky; high effort low return. I'd say to only buy the 58 if you play a good amount of games that scale better from clock speed than cache - usually "simple" games like esports. If you're more into your singleplayers the 57 will do just fine.

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>>102302294
Can anyone tell what GPU this is?

I'm tempted to just buy prebuilt as I am retarded. I built my last PC over ten years ago, talk me into or out of it.

>>102304793
has nvlink so probably 3090 or 3090ti

>>102304793
>3 8-pin
i think there's only only possibility

>>102304644
no x3d is ramlet cope

>everything is cumming by wednesday
>psu is comming on friday
fucking shit its so over

does anyone here have experience with thinkcentre sff office pcs? I'm thinking of getting an m920 sff from an office for cheap with the 260w psu for a "sleeper" build. does anyone know if if the pcie slot can do 75w, and how much space I'll have inside for a low profile gpu? I have a 1050ti gigabyte low profile which is 75w, and I'm thinking of getting a 1650 low profile later, so does anyone know first hand if they would fit?

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>>102302294
>Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards
Why is it recommended to avoid amd cards for workstations? Drivers being shitty again?

>>102304628
You know what, fuck it
Imma go buy it tomorrow.

>>102305617
That and CUDA.

>>102304464
if they do more clueless coomsumers will wait rather than eating old stock slop, new gpus will come out of nowhere with little to no leaks or announcements

>>102304793
it doesn't exist

>>102304793
Its a mockup
If youre looking for gpus with triple 8 pins and an LCD, basically any top end 3090

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>>102305691
>CUDA
Makes sense

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>>102304793
Radeforce RTX 4900 XTX TI SUPER.
the same they will put in the Polystation Series Z

where 5500x3d

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I'm looking for a new nvme, just found the 2TB version of this drive for under $100, it's a teamgroup mp44l
is it a bad idea?

Seriously speaking, is Frame Generation good enough to justify a 4000 card?

>>102307845
Not when far more versatile methods of frame gen (AFMF2 and lossless scaling) exist.

>>102307845
Absolutely not. Frame gen is not as good as it's made out to be. Lots of weird little artifacts everywhere.

How can I identify shit SSDs? I'm not talking about obvious fakes, but stuff like units that barely failed QC and ended up on Aliexpress. I used to know what to look for on SD card packaging to spot such things and I'm guessing PC drives must have similar tells. And could such a drive, if identified and properly priced, be worth getting?

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>>102307982
>(AFMF2 and lossless scaling)
Garbage. Image quality and latency are horrible

>>102307845
Depends on which cards and how much a used previous gen card costs. FSR Frame Gen is pretty decent (although obviously not as good as DLSS Frame Gen or as widely supported) when used with DLSS, as it has much higher quality frames to work with. Additionally, cards like the RTX 4060 and 4060 Ti have relatively small VRAM caches, so Frame Gen can be hit or miss, as Frame Gen requires some VRAM. Whether an RTX 40 series card is worth it really depends on context. If you're deciding between e.g., an RTX 3060 12 GB and an RTX 4060, I think the 4060 is better for an aware user, as he's more likely to be able to work around VRAM in a sensible way

Having said all that, Frame Gen is a great way to increase smoothness in games if used properly.

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>>102304532
If you want Arc specifically for encoding or some other task, they can be decent cards. But you have to understand that you're beta testing, prease understand

>>102304464
RTX 50 high end not until Jan because of TSMC's node not being ready

>>102304337
RX 6600

>>102304287
>tested with upscaling
Didn't watch, but you can bet that AMD Steve didn't comment on how trash tier Radeon's FSR is

>Buy a case with 2 USB 3.0 cables and a USB-C one for the front and side panels
>Forget to check that my motherboard only has one header for each type
Aaaah,

>>102304142
>It is possible that the 5070ti comes out next year?
Yes, probably sometime between March and June if I had to guess

>>102304102
R5 7600

>>102303904
I would say the 7800X3D would be more appropriate

>>102303865
It's fine although the cooler is a bit weird. I'd get something that has better performance, as the R9s need a lot of heat removed from them

>>102302294
Okay /pcbg/ help me out, my gaming laptop is degrading and it's a bitch to carry so I'm building a PC.
I just want most games to run on medium-high settings on 144fps, ray tracing and all that jazz is just a bonus. Do you guys think RTX 4070 Super is worth it or would a 4060 do the job? Should I just wait for further releases?

>>102302294
>tfw no peeceecat :(

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>>102303448
At 1080p, an i5 13400 will definitely limit the 4080 in a lot of situations. Post your entire system including monitor if you want advice

>>102302924
>Dlss is sour grapes
FTFY

>>102309286
>Should I just wait
Not at that budget, you'll be waiting probably six months and there's no guarantee that the next XX70 class cards will be that much better in terms of price/perf
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/m2GJVn

[damage control intensifies]

should I put my PC on the floor or on a desk?

is this order good for mounting aio?
>mobo to case
>radiator to case
>aio to the CPU?

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>>102309842
Desk

>>102309862
That is the most hassle free order yes.

>>102309862
Just watch a video

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-announces-unified-udna-gpu-architecture-bringing-rdna-and-cdna-together-to-take-on-nvidias-cuda-ecosystem

POODNA IS DEAD

NVIDIA CUDA WINS AGAIN

>>102310022
what video?

>>102310046
>RDNA IS THE FUTURE
>RDNA2
>RDNA3
>RDNA4
>RDNA5
>RDOA OVER

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqXzBL

Looking for critiques.

>>102310117
Overkill for that GPU might as well get a 4080 Super at minimum

>>102310117
Any real reason why you want 64gb?

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>wait a month for motherboard to arrive
>delayed another 3 weeks
Fuck this. Recommend me another motherboard, /g/. Price range below $300. Going to buy something that'll arrive this weekend. Parts listed are already obtained: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NXNw9c

>>102310243
livemixer?

>>102310243
Time to pay your local pc store a visit

what are good PC build guides? I've watched lots one but I need more

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING!
WHAT DO ALL THESE NUMBERS MEAN?
63200 GOOCH RIPPER BLTX
WHAT THE FUCK EVEN IS THAT

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Noobie here, looking for a gaming monitor.

My next build will have a 4070 Super TI.

Should I go with the Dell G2724D because it has G-sync compatibility, or does it not matter and I should go with the ASRock PG27QFT2A because it's cheaper and has a better refresh rate?

>>102310223
Eh might be overkill, you're right.

>>102310203
Eh I kinda feel like it goes into the territory of "does it really matter" when you get up there.

>>102310325
It has freesync so you still get VRR goodness

>>102310371
I don't know what VRR is, is that a good thing?

>>102310325
You can't go wrong with either. KTC H27T22S is also another great option and its $150 on Amazon right now with coupon.

>>102310385
Variable refresh rate aka what freesync and gsync do. Yes you want it - never buy a monitor again that doesn't support it.

>>102303784
I purchased nvidia once in 20 years (1660) and it fucking sucked, their budget cards are complete ass.

>>102310518
I bought a 8600GT and 9800GT. Both died with black screen of death issues. That was when I bought a Radeon 4870 and never bought Nvidia again.

>>102304848
Everybody i know who did a prebuilt was an unlikable faggot and I am not even slightly exaggerating. I don't mean "I personally dislike them", I mean "everybody around them thinks they're a douche"

What I'm saying is that prebuilts are for people who want the instant gratification of a fancy new $3000 toy. If you actually have an enthusiast interest you're going to want to intimately know whats in your rig

>>102310117
Spend less on motherboard and PSU
4080 Super

>>102310350
It does matter.

>>102310325
If you're going 1440p with that budget, by far the best monitor is the AOC Q27G3XMN by far. Entry HDR

>>102310518
>>102310610
The 2% of the market speaks

>>102310628
They're probably just lying anyway

>>102310654
>>102310628
Suck my left nut.

>>102304287

radeon lost to AMD sponsored game wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q86tGxyYbEQ

>>102310442
Thanks for the info!
I was afraid that AMD Freesync would only work with an AMD GPU

>>102310403
I've never used amazon coupons, how do I get those?

>>102310627
Thanks for the info! I'll look into it.

>>102304287
>I remember reviews for the 7000 GPUs showed very little improvement, now they are up by a lot.
they were quite a lot better in cyberpunk iirc. it just seemed to depend on the game

>>102310703
>AMD sponsored
That just means no DLSS3 framegen
They tried to take all DLSS out of the early ones and there were so many complaints and mods putting it back into games now AMD Sponsored games have DLSS by default

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Ordered new rig mein negers. Friday going to be good.
Upgrading from ryzen 3600 and 3200mhz ram

Budget: $700-$800 CAD
What it's used for: Daily PC. Browsing the internet, watching and/or listening to YouTube, or videos/music directly in my storage server, light programming, editing text files or spreadsheets etc. Using Linux.
What it's not used for: Games, 3D rendering/modeling, music production, game development, AI. I do these on my main PC.
What I'm specifically looking for: Wireless, no GPU but an iGPU instead. Output to two 1440p monitors. Must be SSF.

>>102311271
Nice. I would have changed a few things to make it cheaper but if you like it then good job.

>>102311302
https://www.minisforum.com/

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>>102311006
>They tried to take all DLSS out of the early ones
They succeeded for quite a while
Dirty AMD

>>102302294
>over 100 people signed up for ScamChasers overclocking online coarse
How the fuck do we stop him

>>102311302
Used Dell Optiplex 7050 Micro with an i7 7700T, 16 GB RAM, and an SSD

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>>102309478
>At 1080p, an i5 13400 will definitely limit the 4080 in a lot of situations. Post your entire system including monitor if you want advice
Right now I got 2 1080p monitors but I will also buy one 1440p.

>>102311460
the natty king of pcbg can't be stopped
also it's a free market
why are people kvetching over people with too much money spending a few hundred bux?
I wouldn't, but that's besides the point

>>102310325
I would wanna tell you that you are entering the monitor market at the destitute bottom end tier with 150-200 bux monitors but if that's all you need
the only other option is 1k oleds
but anyway

>>102311500
should have bought the b760m riptide mobo with a clock gen and slapped a 5.2ghz oc on the 12400 and it would have been good enough to compete, but maybe you built before this

$700-900 budget CAD
gonna mostly play dota 2 & deadlock
do want to finish stuff like cp2077, bg3, spider-man 1 & hogwarts

>>102311529
I build it at the end of 2022 just because my old one died

>>102308834
Are you actually paid by nvidia or something?

That is NOT AFMF2, the technical preview driver dropped 1 month after that video. The video doesn't even claim that is is AFMF2.

>>102311556
go to PCpartpicker and make a list you lazy ass leaf

>>102311556
what resolution@refresh rate? literally most important variable... or do you also want to get a monitor within that budget?

tho with $900 monopoly dollars i dont see how you'd get decent performance above 1080p@144 with optimized performance settings for those competitive games.

>>102311637
he does it for free, those wo are paid stop shilling once the contract ends, he's been doing this for two years at least

>>102311637
he's like jannies he does it for free. he's just a fat tendinosaurus

We get it, you saw Nvidia stock 100x over the last 5 years and now you're salty

>>102311661
ohh 1080p/60
i don't need that much
will just use my old shitter monitor

>>102311749
>shooters
>eshit moba games
>60hz
just add 200 and buy some 180hz ips for goodness sake

>>102311749
High refresh rate is night and day difference. Consider at least 144 or 165 if budget constrained.

>>102311529
But what should I do now?

>>102311708
nvidia's stocks are high because of enterprise AI solutions and nobody in their right minds would care about stock prices when purchasing a gaming GPU retard

>>102311677
I guess I just haven't been lurking long enough to be immune to this level of retardation

>>102311556
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CGX7fy
idk something like this

>>102311785
ram running at 4800mhz too?
buy a new gpu and if it's too low fps buy a 7800x3d+b650 mobo and carry over ram and continue playin

>>102311637
I agree this dude is a bit of a clown, but AFMF1 / 2 is trash. Lossless scaling is better and doesn't disable itself during fast movement. AFMF2 helped reduce this but still happens.

>>102310925
You go on the Amazon page on a computer and on the product page where the monitor is and there should be a button to add coupon below

>>102311500
A 13400 isn't an upgrade from a 12400 for gaming.
You already have DDR5, so either keep your current CPU or get a 7800X3D + B650
Also get that new monitor ASAP

>>102311637
AFMF2 is garbage. No access to the game engine (motion vectors), horrible latency, and literally turns itself off when you move the camera quickly.

>>102311556
>$700-900 budget CAD
You're better off posting whatever you have now (COMPLETELY, including monitor) and trying to upgrade it. Can't do shit with 900 CAD otherwise

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>>102303300
Explain it to me like if I was retarded.

>>102311977
What about >>102303554 ?
Also, yeah I'm due for a new monitor

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If I get a 140+ Hz screen and the game won't reach the target fps, is it gonna look like shit? I've always had a 60Hz screen and vsynced in newer games

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>>102312096
You definitely could buy something like an i5 14600K (a 14700K is a waste for gaming), but with a B board you won't have access to the tweaking options that a K CPU allows, kinda sucks. Might be the best option if you're looking for the most cost effective upgrade, but honestly I don't see one as a noticeable upgrade

>>102312106
No, VRR will handle it

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>spend four days putting together PC as carefully as I possibly can
>triple check to make sure everything is connected properly
>plug it in and press the power switch
>everything lights up and fans start spinning
>plug in monitor
>no signal
>try plugging cable into motherboard instead
>no signal
>notice a red light on the motherboard
I'm going to fucking kill myself.

>>102312204
>but with a B board you won't have access to the tweaking options that a K CPU allows
But it would work on my current mobo (after bios update)? I mean I can buy those two and the monitor and update mobo later.

>>102312246
does the mobo have bios flashback?
if so, try to flash newest bios

>>102312246
It's okay anon. You most likely have a new CPU and your motherboard's BIOS doesn't support it. Do a BIOS flashback using the newest BIOS your motherboard supports. Check the manufacturer's website. Just make sure it's the right one.

And now you learned a lesson. That you need to test it first before assembling everything. Put in CPU, cooler and one stick of RAM. If it posts then good job. If not at least you know it's one of those things that is the problem.

Hi again /g/. Haven't been able to score a w5700 for $100. However, I have a local lead that offered me a reference Rx 5700 (non-XT) for $100. Should I go for it?

>>102312364
Save some money for 1080Ti

What do you guys do to clean your pc case?

Your computers look like rainbow vomit and no amount of skyrim mods will make you less of a fag.

>>102312536
I have an air compressor.
Dust can often be blown away.
Extrapolating from the above two statements we can deduce I use an air compressor to blow dust out of my PC.

>>102302800
There's only a 6.6% increase in pixels rendered per second from 2160p60 to 1440p144, that's not incredibly significant if you ask me.

>>102309286
Framerate is meaningless without context, even a 3000 series nvidia or a 6000 series amd can do 144fps at 1080p at high settings. Keep in mind that the worthwhile 4000-series cards are incredibly overpriced, you should only be buying them if you want to push the limits of 1440p or 4k

>>102312275
If you're sticking with LGA1700, I don't think you buy a new mobo. The 14600K (on a reasonable power plan) + 4080 (preferably Super if it's close in price) + monitor is fine. Make sure you update mobo to latest BIOS and use the Intel Baseline power plan or whatever it's called, as 13th and 14th gen have been having problems with degradation

>>102312364
No

>>102302294
YO NIGGA GOT THE SUPREME GPU????!!!

>>102303448
Why the hell are you buying a 4080 for 1080? You can do 144fps at 1080 with a card 20% of the price

I’m new to pc building and am kinda confused on how choosing a case works. Can you basically just choose any case and it’ll be compatible with most components you choose? How do you make sure the case you buy can fit and work with them? I’m sure there are some restrictions, like x case won’t work with this motherboard fan cpu graphics card etc

>>102304645
Apple is basically bankrolling TSMC with how much silicon allocation they are buying

>>102312606
Just be a mini-ATX chad.

>>102312606
If you're building mid-range or budget buy whatever you want.

>>102312555
Is it appropriate to use to isopropyl alcohol, or a damp cloth or paper towel to wipe the case? What about the glass side panel?

>>102304492
>free Space Marine 2 & Uknown9 Awakening
Neat, I have no interest in either of these games but I just bought a 7900XTX so I guess I'll grab em anyway

>>102312606
Cases are looks vs function
If Your PC is on your desk put looks first
If Your PC is on under your desk or in another room put function first

>>102312743
ipa is fine to use on anything metal or glass

>>102304492
>free Star Wars Outlaws
Neat, I have no interest in that game but I just bought a 4090 so I guess I'll grab it anyway

Guys and goys, I need laptop transport my backpack doesnt even have a laptop compartment
What do I get?

>>102312782
ltt laptob bag lttstore.com linus needs more badminton rackets

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>unplug and pick PC up from table
>put PC on another table intending to disassemble and blow clean it
>CRAAAAAA-ACK
Jesus, how is this acceptable?

>>102312594
Never said I'm going to stay at 1080p

>>102312858
THAT'S RIGHT STUNT ON THESE HOES

>>102312606
Basically only check if your GPU fits inside if you are buying some 3 fan snowboards.

>>102312768
Thanks, anon.

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>>102312820
STOP
BUYING
TEMPERED
GLASS
CASES
Heat and glass do NOT go well together jfc

>>102312894
Does the heat from the components make the glass expand from the heat and break randomly?

>>102312894
Never. I'm eyeing up an O11 Vision right now. WE NEED MORE GLASS.

>>102312820
>>102312894
>buy chinkshit
>complain when it breaks

>>102312916
Yes, it’s just too risky. If you want a see through panel, why not just buy acrylic instead?

>>102312916
Shitty chink defective glass installed improperly is the reason why they break

>>102312820
I always remove my glass panel first before moving my PC. Especially considering my pc weighs a fucktonne even with the panel off.

>>102312943
acrylic is so ugly, scratches way worse gets dull very quickly there's just no comparison at all. The only place acrylic has left is in distro plates really.

>>102312277
>>102312334
That was it. Thank fucking Christ. I should've just ordered it pre-assembled and saved myself all this time and stress.

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>>102313078
All wrong. I have a few 4x6 acrylic magnetic photo frames like pic related, they look completely clear and spotless. Idk how people equate acrylic panels with foggy, scratched up pieces of shit.

If I want to add more memory on my desktop, do the new sticks have to be the same size and speed as the ones currently installed? I have 4 slots, 2 taken up by 8gig ddr sticks. Board I think is an MSI z170a

>>102313302
Nah, you're gonna look back at it and see that it's fun building a new PC. You learned a new lesson today and next time you do it you'll remember to test before building.

>>102313342
Same model number.

>>102313302
Did you get a 14th gen Intel with a Z690 series motherboard?

>>102313349
So same exact specs? Thanks

Thoughts on Gigabyte as a GPU manufacturer?
Thinking of picking up a 4070 super eagle from them since the price looks better compared to other 4070s. and might get better this holiday season.

>>102313373
It's as safe as you can get, overclocking or not.

>>102313302
you made it. a pre-built would have been a monkey paw of parts you didn't chose and more expensive.

>>102313389
GPUs are all the same if you have good airflow in your PC. They can run at 80c safely and won't crap out. Get any card you like, Gigabyte's best are in the Gaming OC (non V2) and Aorus Master variants.

>>102313419
Gotcha.
Thanks anon.

>>102313302
Prebuilts are trash more often than not.

>>102313389
Bought their 4080 Aero OC. Shit is expensive but they make decent GPUs. Their software for controlling the RGB is shit and OpenRGB doesn't play nice with my GPU. It's also pretty quiet considering they mostly always slap on 360mm fans on every single card.
Use their support bracket so you don't crack your GPU.

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why isnt an 8 core cpu twice as hot as a 4 core cpu at the same ghz? youve got twice as many cores going the same speed

>>102313449
You've also increased surface area.

>>102313320
>he has a picture of the fake moonlanding

>>102312935
That's a corsair case anon. One of the most bought western case brands.

>>102313389
eagle is their budget line windforce is the premium line

>>102313365
7800X3D/Aorus Elite AX Ice

>>102313412
>>102313427
I meant selecting the parts and paying the $100 or whatever to have the shop build it.

>>102302349
I wish this game was good there's no decent true blue Chinese mythology games anymore.

>200mm fans
>140mm fans
>120mm fans

Which is best?

>>102302294
>4000D airflow

What's wrong with 4000D, 5000D, and 7000D?

>>102313564
For what?

>>102313564
140mm is better than 120mm but 200mm sacrifices static pressure

>>102311426
Their product is so dogshit they have to force consumers to use their trash

>>102313564
bigger = better

>>102313564
if your case supports it 200mm or 160mm something like that

>>102313564
Basically
Bigger fans can push more airflow with lower RPMs and are thus more quiet as a result, but also have lower static pressure so pushing air through tight shit like the mesh or radiators.

>>102313604
>but also have lower static pressure so
*they struggle with pushing air through tight shit like mesh or radiators.

>>102313544
>I meant selecting the parts and paying the $100 or whatever to have the shop build it.
oh right.
i built mine a week ago btw. same CPU

are any of the ~$200 4k 60hz monitors worth it for just watching media on?
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&sort=price&page=1
there's some actual name brands like ASUS, Samsung, LG, Dell around that price range

>>102313575
Better options nowadays at similar price points.

I ordered a G2724D for myself and Q27G3XMN for my wife. If i like the AOC monitor better I'm yoinking hers.

>>102313924
all bought the same trash panel from LG or Samsung all are trash

>>102313564
>>102313593
Why are there no cases with 200mm front fans and back fans

Post your biggest PC Building mistakes and regrets

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>>102314350
not inviting 10 hot girls to assist me

IS 360HZ a meme? I was thinking of buying a 5080 and the next-gen equivalent of the 7800X3D but I think 360hz might be a little extreme.

>>102314507
>IS 360HZ a meme? I was thinking of buying a 5080 and the next-gen equivalent of the 7800X3D but I think 360hz might be a little extreme.

No reason to go beyond 120fps especially for games

>>102314507
even 240hz is overkill

>>102314350
I regret not being more patient. I should've done more planning and just wait a couple months after the shitshow in 2020-2022. My build is pretty decent now, and I'm pretty satisfied with the performance.

bros I seriously don't get it
my 3rd monitor is powered on and plugged in but says "no signal"
however here's the weird part, it shows up in nvidia control panel and windows settings, I can change its resolution and refresh rate etc and the even weirder part, I can definitely move my mouse to that invisible desktop, I can even put stuff like my browser and other windows on that desktop using win-key+arrows BUT the monitor still says "no signal", tried it with another cable and monitor, same thing
it affects only the hdmi ports
I've never seen such a thing

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just built my 7800x3d build, waiting for 5080 or 5090
it's nice to have a 7 segment display once again

>>102314530
>>102314576

You're probably right, but I think that 240hz would give me a big boost in games. And with such a powerful CPU/GPU, I might as well go all in on. I was thinking either a 240 or 360hz OLED 1440p monitor

>>102314624
>>102314624
>>102314624

>>102312586
>Supreme
I'm hoping you're being sarcastic and really not an illiterate ESL.

>>102314600
there's something wrong with the card? plug the hdmi into a dofferent screen and try displayport in that scren

>>102314608
i think i fell in love with Taichi mobos.

>>102314350
got an AIO cooler cause it was $20 cheaper than noctua d15.

>>102314530
>No reason to go beyond 120fps
maybe for your blind ass, you can definitely notice a difference with higher fps

>>102312501
If I'm going to spend $150-200 on a 7-8yr old card, I'd get a Titan X Pascal or XP. My goal is a better, newer, card in the $100 or less range.

Kinda wish I could SLi my old cards for shits n giggles. Still got two gtx260 core 216's kicking around.

>>102314792
d15 is a meme it blocks the main pcie slot on a number of motherboards

>>102302294
Why the Sabrent Rocket 5 over the Crucial T705?

>>102314926
D15s solves it

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>>102314926
>D15 is a meme
Can confirm. A U14 is more than sufficient, especially if a second fan is used.

>>102313564
40mm server fans, double stacked and ready to take off.

>>102315100
If I don't get a coherent response to this in the next 15 mins amidst the hipster countersignalling I'm just going to assume that the OP is a paid promotion.

>>102309478
Phooey I have it on my 2060 and had it on my 2080ti
It's nice but Nvidia close garden source wall fence bs is dumb I've had their crap for 20 years prices gone insane in the last 5yrs no thx
My 79xtx curb stomps everything but the 4090 and 4090 d in raster don't want AI PT rt shit til it's more mature