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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.
https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345

>Intel Raptor Lake / RPL Refresh
Instability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.

>CPUS
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 12100
Gaming: R5 7600; budget: R5 5600; eXtreme: R7 7800X3D
Multicore: R9 7950X; budget: i5 13500
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU

>GRAPHICS CARDS
1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super
1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32

>COOLERS
Standout: Peerless Assassin 120 (or variant)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>PSUS
A new PSU should be ATX 3.0 compliant
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>SSDS
WD SN850X 2TB
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDs
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARDS
Good power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and above
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset

>GAMING MONITORS
Dell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

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>>102314624
Shit OP again
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>>102314624
I think I need a new case for more rads. I can only get my water down to 31 degrees under load :/
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>>102314641
whats wrong with it
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>>102314600
I can literally see it in OBS
check pic related, I dragged paint onto it
what the fuck
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>>102314641
Be sympathetic and let a guy earn his 2 cents
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How will Sapphire top this design, it's too good
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>>102314696
forgot the graphics card? expensive night light?
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>>102314696
>AIO
lmao, build a loop zoomie
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So realistically, what is the current upgrade path for 5800X3D users? I'm still using a motherboard from 2019 I believe. Wait for the 9800X3D?
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>>102314709
waiting for 5080
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>>102314752
If the 9800X3D isn't like 20% over the 7800X3D then we wait for 10800X3D...
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do you think amd's next gen will at least compete with its own 7900xt right now?
if so is it worth waiting
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>>102314762
use another card from your collection until you can buy one?
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Post the GOAT cases, CPU fans, and AIO
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Is there a good way to figure out what parts are on the same tier as a part I've already got? I have a 3070 Founder's Edition a friend gave me, and I want to build with similarly powerful parts so nothing's holding anything else back.
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>>102314939
>and AIO
the one you build yourself?
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>>102314817
AMDs very own pascal. They did good.
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PC BROS???
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>>102314992
?
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>>102314992
>3800X
>7800XT
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>>102314992
games?
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fucking hell I don't want to spend 800bucks to replace my 3080ti
why the fuck did I have to spill water on it, fuck me
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>>102312501
If I'm going to spend $150-200 on a 7-8yr old card, I'd get a Titan X Pascal or XP. My goal is a better, newer, card in the $100 or less range.

>>102314926
>D15 is a meme
Can confirm. A U14 is more than sufficient, especially if a second fan is used.
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>>102314992
>innovations in gaming technology
buddy it's just an x86 computer
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>>102315244
>3800x
Shit, I'm halfway there. Nice digits, chkd.
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Fuck Israel
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does anyone have a reliable ranking of the different 4070 ti super cards by brand? and for the non-TI as well if possible
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>>102314992
Which CPU/GPU would you need to buy to mog this goyslop before it even releases?
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can i set a 9700X to 35W TDP?
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>>102315349
5800x3d
4070ti super or 7900xt
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>>102314652
just run external rads u silly duck
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>>102315350
yes
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>>102315336
And fuck nVidia for the EVGA split. That's why used GeForce cards are priced like ass. Used Arc sellers are just as delusional, if not more. A used a750 for about $200? Nigger what? I can pop in the Microcenter I drive by everyday and get a new one for $200.
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Is it worth going for the 34" 3440x1440 ultrawide meme with a $220 chinkshit Amazon monitor or nah?
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>>102314624
finally a sane op. thank you.
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reminder RDNA is a dead platform internally in AMD do not expect future updates
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I wish I could machine panels from steel and rivet them to reinvent my HAF 912. Instead, I'll be replacing it with a modern case.
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>>102314654
not shilling njudea or intel aviv enough
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Are Zen 5 X3D expected to launch before Arrow Lake?
I only care so that I can pick up Zen 4 X3D for cheap(er)
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>>102314657
>recommend cheaper graphics cards
>earn his two cents
OK retard

>>102314752
Skip AM5 entirely

>>102315336
Good price

>>102315337
Not about brand, about model
Check techpowerup for a some models
Really the only comparison that matters is noise
The Gigabyte cards with the Quiet BIOS switch (Eagle, Gaming) are competitive
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>>102315493
This was posted like ten times with no explanation what it actually means.
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Wanting to replace my quad monitor setup with 2 ultrawides 49"
PC is set up for work and games, looking at the LG 49WQ95C-W as its IPS, concerned OLED will burn in while working.

https://www.lg.com/au/monitors/ultrawide/49wq95c-w/
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>>102315456
they bought an intel dGPU of course they are delusional
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>>102315473
nah
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Yet another UE5 game
Poor 6700 XT owners
Can you believe these people thought muh VRAM matters?
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>>102314762
Imagine waiting for 16GB VRAM.
In 2024!
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>>102315700
it means RDNA which is the gaming architecture and CDNA which is the compute architecture are going to recombined, up until Vega AMD had a single architecture but the compute architecture was leaving performance on the table for the gaming arch
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>>102315700
It means if all goes well UDNA cards will actually be good for AI and productivity as well as gaming and likely more expensive
It means that current RDNA cards are a dead platform

RDNA was always crippled by AMD to begin with
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>2 more fps I WON
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>>102315786
Are you retarded or just pretending? DLSS isn't enable in that benchmark, otherwise it would look like pic related, which is the same FPS as DLSS Performance at 1440p
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>>102315723
fuck ultrawides
and superfuck superultrawides
if you really, REALLY need shitloads of real-estate, and you really need it to be work AND play, my advice would be a neo g7 center, flanked by 2 plain 4k/60hz monitors (27 or 32, portrait or landscape up to you).

if it was ONLY work, you could look into a 55in 8k TV. LG makes one such, ips miniled (tho afaik the miniled part sucks ass). essentially its 4x 27/4k ips panels glued together. the downside is only 60hz, and being ips miniled with low zone count, the contrast performance sucks ass. price is ~800yuros for me, so quite competitive with 4 actual 27/4k panels.
so, yea, not ideal for gaming or for media, but as a work surface, its a pretty decent option. especially if you also consider the simplicity of having a single panel with a single cable to connect it and another to power it, vs 4x for 4 monitors.

personally, im quite content with a 32in center with a single 27 side, in portrait.
i found that having the 27 in landscape made the setup impractical. looking at the outermost edge of the 27 required way too much head turning
also, the height of it in portait is also a bit much, i used fancyzones (window tiling software, part of powertools) to create a custom snapping zone for the bottom 2/3rds of the 27. that's where i plant my browser/discord/teams.
the top 1/3 is only used for rarely looked at stuff, like torrent client, spotify, the occasional console window running some long task, etc.
point being, you probably wanna stick to 27in secondary(s), in portait mode too.
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>>102314992
does it come with windows or steamOS?
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>>102315802
Playstation's OS is BSD-based
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>>102315807
enjoy browsing youtube videos with that beast
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>>102315807
unless that's a 4090 that PSU is overkill
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The 64gb ram is temporary have two kits of 96gb 6000mhz on the way.

>>102315723
Just buy it from somewhere that covers it for 4-5 years. I'm on my third OLED from best buy, 1 inch of burn in = free replacement and you keep the old panel if it's over 42" cause they don't want to come pick it up
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>you're a pc game
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Forgot img lel
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Just committed to a budget combo deal since 7800x3ds are out of stock worldwide and we're in GPU dead zone til January. I picked a hell of a time to kill my old computer.
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>>102315844
ukrainian suicide drone dispatched. Arriving soon
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>>102315869
imagine waiting a whole 3-4 months for a 9800x3d + 5080 combo
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>>102315850
>speccy
bro, hwinfo64
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What CPU heatsinks are recommended below the price of the Thermalright ones? It'll be for a 7600X
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>>102315829
Under 60% load it's 0rpm. It's a deliberate choice. It was also on sale and cost less than a bequiet or seasonic 750w

>>102315823
I just want the sieges in empire total war to run smoothly and not cause my fans to spool up

Starting a masters fldegree soon, I won't have time to be a disgusting neet anymore
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>>102315875
I'm on my 10-year-old backup system and it fucking sucks. I panicked and pulled the trigger. G-guess I'll wait for the 5080 Super in 18 months.
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>>102315890
Arctic 36
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>>102315921
Unfortunately in leafland, even the Phantom Spirit is cheaper than the Freezer 36
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tNbtDZ
Looking to build a new gaming rig, but my last build was 10 years ago so I am lost now. My budget is 1500 range don't want to exceed 1500 in the USA. If anyone else has something better in mind I am up for suggestions.
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>>102315892
>to run smoothly
wouldnt one get 3xd cpu for best smoothering?
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>>102315964
I got a great deal on a 7700
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>>102315947
I would consider an mATC build, and also look at your local Facebook market place for used GPUs
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if you love american judeo-corporate expansionism please head to your local Best Goy(tm) and purchase the latest njudea card because it's Just Better (tm)
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4070 (non-super) at $515 or 4070 super at $575 Both PNY and same (cooler) model.
It's basically the same price-to-performance at these price points, isn't it?
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>>102316079
well you always buy the most expensive gpu at the same price performance
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>>102315747
bro can you internal referral me? I wanna earn some bucks in the free time as well.
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Is $663 AUD ($441 USD) a good deal for a Ryzen 7950X?

How does the 9950X compare? I see it's a lot more expensive at $1100 AUD.
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>>102316104
9950x is certainly not worth that price difference
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>>102316004
I am always skeptical of buying used GPU's, I am also unfamiliar with mATC? Is that an acronym for something?
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is the 7900 gre good for 1440p or should I wait for the 8800XT? or hell should I look inot getting something like the 7900 Xt/XTX
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>>102314762
>waiting instead of just using his computer
I hate waitfags so much
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>>102316169
The only sensible waitfag advice is to wait until October 1st so you can take advantage of the holiday return window. (Oct 1st - Jan 31) Typically.
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>>102316159
If you can wait for 8800XT you can wait for 9900XT. You're not some consoomer are you?
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>>102316194
>9900XT i thought AMD were giving up on trying to compete with nvidia?
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Are there ANY motherboards announced to have CAMM2 or is that not something until Zen 6 / Nova Lake?
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>>102315725
I'd take the ARC pill, just to see what I can do with it. But nothing less than a 580 and not at retarded Intel prices.
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>>102316079
4070Super is 30% faster and only costs $50 more. IMO no one should be buying the base 4070 anymore. Be aware it has 12GB of VRAM though if you are concerned about that.
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What are the downsides of PC gaming
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>>102315349
it has a zen 2 cpu lmao
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>>102316328
high initial cost
impossibility of playing multiplayer without sociopathici cheaters
pirates who scream you should avoid paying for things you consume
3rd worlders
distractions, like 4chan and porn that prevent majority of /v/ users from actually playing video games they talk about
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I’m just gonna wait for Blackwell and Zen 5 X3D
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>>102315797
holy fuck it's 2024 and we're upscaling 720p to make "okay" graphics work at 60 fps!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember when we were downscaling 4k to 1080p to replace msaa, how the fuck did it go so wrong!!!!!!
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>>102315349
Anything 4070 up. PS5 is already sub 1080p below 60fps and the PS5 pro will have a couple gimmicky features and a slightly higher base resolution.
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>>102316154
Sorry, mATX.

My phone updated and the keyboard slightly changed
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>>102316397
>okay graphics
Okay retard
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>>102316159
None of those are good for 1440p
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>>102316437
anti-upscaling fags are generally either amd fags and are upset people call them stupid for buying amd, or they're console users and pretend to be retarded
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For completely new builds, anyone else think in terms of "percentage increase in total build price vs performance increase" when choosing between video cards of different tiers?
Yeah, a 4070 Ti Super is $200 more than a 4070 Super but if I'm making a $1500+ build, suddenly it's almost 1:1 price-to-performance increase. And as the total build price goes higher, you get more performance per dollar than 1:1
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7800XDD prices are pozzed here. Should I get the 7600 or 7700 instead? I'll be playing at 1440p with my 3060Ti
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>>102316506
buy 7600x3d
its sold in mindfactory
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>>102316506
Get the 7600
You're going to be GPU limited with a 3060Ti anyway
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>>102316496
yes, that's a good way of looking at it

another thing people often miss out on is the relative importance of the cpu in their builds. they see the 7800x3d benchmarks showing yueg gains over the 7600 or some intel, but they fail to also notice how that bench was performed at 1080p low settings with a 4090.
which, don't get me wrong, is the right way to do cpu benches, but it can be misleading.

but by far the biggest redpill of all is just how important accessories and noise are. your monitor, your chair, your desk, your speakers (and/or headphones), your case, how noisy your system is.
those things are way more important for your overall enjoyment of your pc than an extra 10/20/30% fps
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>>102316506
7600, especially with a 3060 Ti
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>>102316496
Related
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rR9MVerKKuI
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>>102316397
I still do this. I also don't play anything from post 2018 so there is that.
t. 7800x3d and 6800xt
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>>102315370
Where is the fun in that anon?
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Why shouldn't I get an A620 board over B650 if I'm going to use a 7800X3D?
Don't need the overclocking and the VRMs don't need to work that hard given how efficient the 7800X3D is
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>>102316037
dude I'm just not buying AMD dogshit, no matter how hard you shill lmao
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>thinking of getting a monitor over 30" for Nigger Friday
>have a RX 2060
Does it matter what GPU I have?
Which brands are reliable? Should I look any Amazon chink ones like BenQ etc?
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>>102315947
why not a 7600 based build?
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>>102316939
just reminding you that you support evil.
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It is so tempting to grab the RTX 4070 for 442 USD on Amazon Warehouse deals, but there's always that nagging feeling that the 5070 will be even better at that only a slightly higher pricetag in leafland.
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>>102317006
>slightly higher pricetag
Stop being delusional, this is Nvidia
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7700X3D when?
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>>102316720
Dom is my spirit animal
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9900X
I'm going to get one.
There lacking data on the low 1% avg framerate using this processor, but it seems to perform about 2% lower in gaming compared to the 7950X3D while performing considerably better in non-gaming tasks, all while being ~$80 cheaper.

Is there any pitfall I don't know about that makes this a bad decision?

Also, is the 7900X3D really worse than the 7800X3D? It's ~$40 cheaper too.
They perform comparably in the gaming benchmarks I have seen while the 7900X3D is far better for non-gaming.
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Why is amd so slow compared to nvidia
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>>102317033
It isn’t
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>>102317024
>They perform comparably in the gaming benchmarks I have seen while the 7900X3D is far better for non-gaming.
If that's the angle you're going for, sure
For people who want the best gaming cpu, the 7800x3d is 10% ahead of the 7900x3d and even the 7600x3d is faster than that ryzen 9 trap part
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>>102317054
Ayyyymd Cope
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>>102317064
Our response nvidia bros??
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Hi newfag here, I asked for a build for my needs and someone posted this list. I just changed the case: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NvG46D
But I forgot to mention that my monitor is 1080p. I posted in another board and someone pointed out that the processor with this high end gpu could get bottlenecked. Any recommendations for changes would be greatly appreciated.
Country: USA
Budget: probably 800 usd at most, but can be higher if it’s absolutely worth it
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Forgot pic
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>>102316954
if you're fine with it you can always get 4k oled 32" and not play 3d games at 4k
it'll look great for other stuff, and theres always changing to 1080p if you need to
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>>102317141
Now turn on ray tracing
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>>102316237
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>>102317141
>AMD sponsored
Now show the 7900XTX with a Nvidia sponsored game.
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>>102316237
Like the A750 isn't terrible as a budget card now, but it definitely isn't worth $200 on the used market as that one anon said. Hell, some people in my area are selling the A770 for nearly as much as a used RTX 3070, and that just isn't worth it when the A770 still falls behind in new releases.
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Is the 4070 Ti Super worth an extra $200-250 over the regular Super?
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>>102317499
Consider the following >>102316496
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can someone give me links to learning the fundamentals to building PC's?

i have no idea where to start
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>>102317189
These bottlenecking websites are utter shit and aren't even worth using to get a rough estimate of whether you are bottlenecking or not, 12400F and 4060 should be fine together
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>>102317214
There is no RT in this game
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sneed
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>>102317524
Still though, is the 4060 gpu a bit overkill for a 1080p monitor? If I could go lower and get something potentially cheaper and better suited for 1080p I’d love to hear it
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>>102317638
6600
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>>102317499
If you're playing at 1080p then no
If you're playing at 1440p or more then yes
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Got myself Montech AIR 903 MAX (with built in fans.) cannot lower theyr rpm below ~700, at which they are still annoying audible. any ways to slow them down, or just change fans? If change fans, what 140mm fan is bang for buck?
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Haven't built a PC in a long while so just seeing if there's anything I should adjust in my build.
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>>102317204
Like a Samsung tv? I don't care too much about 4k gaming. 1080p is my go to.
Don't the PC monitors have features exclusive for computers?
Could a TV monitor work?
I would prefer non glossy though. I can't control the darkness at my place at the moment.
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>>102317883
theres 32" 4k oleds that dont have smart tv OS, but theres also samsung one with their tizen OS like Odyssey OLED G8 (G80SD)
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>>102316437
>retarded tech demo
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>>102317857
You dont need to liquid cool a Ryzen 5 or any other 65w TDP CPU. And definately do NOT buy a cooler master AIO.
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>>102317214
That game was so rushed it doesn't have FSR/DLSS 3+ yet lole.
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>>102317925
Might be cool. I like Samsung. I will take a look at these options too. Thnx.
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I am absolutely cooming in anticipation for the Antec Flux Pro, it ticks literally every single one of my boxes. Holy fuck this case can't get a worldwide release soon enough.
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>>102317944
Good to know, I was just concerned since summers can be hell why I am.
Would something like a DeepCool
AK620 be a better investment?
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>>102317962
>no 5.25"
Into the trash it goes!
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>>102317962
commercial post is commercial
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>>102314624
What's a good mid-sized, silent, glass panel-less case?
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>>102317214
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>>102318035
fractal north is pretty good
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>>102318035
Antec performance ft silent. Comes with silent fans too.
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Well, I guess I'm not repasting my GPU.
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>>102318213
too annoying to remove all the screws or what
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>>102318226
lower left is mostly stripped from factory. I even got a new screwdriver kit, it didn't help.
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>>102318250
just use right size screw head, itll work
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>>102318259
I tried all the heads, comapre lwoer left to lwoer right, left doesn't even have a cross anymore, it's barely there
the only way to fix this is drill out with a really good 2mm drill bit, and I'm not ready for such drastic measures yet, maybe when the card lives through it's 3rd year
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>>102318272
eh just use more body weight on it, im sure it'll come out
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>>102317995
us modern gamers use m2 drives now
5.25 is ancient, just use external usb drives instead
fucking faggot needs his AI CP stash plugged in 24/7 get a Define R7 and jam it with CP you goober
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>>102317006
I have a feeling that Ada Lovelace and RDNA 3 are the best they could achieve. All the future gen will get either be a glorified refresh or they keep selling bigger chip.
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>>102318301
>using m2 for bulk
retard
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>>102318281
and crack a PCB or worse the chip? no thanks.
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>>102318304
GPUs scale directly with fab nodes, it will be a pretty huge change when we hit 2nm and GDDR7 will reach it's potential.
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>>102317006
>5070 will be even better at that only a slightly higher pricetag in leafland.
it's like a fucking year away
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>>102318405
8800xt is like two months away
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>>102318338
>external usb drives
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>>102318476
>bucket of usb sticks instead of one 20TB drive
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>>102318500
>putting all your data eggs in one basket
I hoard exclusively on 2TB drives
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Day 4 of PTM on a 7700x, unpacking some stuff at 90% load, used to be 90-95C' now it's 75-80C'.
Really gets better with time, huh. Nobody lied aobut the thing.
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>>102318537
you know they made a 65w card run at 105w for like 3% more perf

amd sure is the shittiest cpu manufacturer out there
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>>102318550
that's a CPU.
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>>102318557
I know right
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>>102318745
Noctua looks like shit and performs like shit
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>>102318770
That's not the point, look at the memory slots.
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hi

what's the go-to windows 10 activator these days? kms pico still a thing?
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>>102318810
single CHADnnel
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>>102318810
what is the technical reason why the dual channel needs to be separated this way? I bet everyone intuitively tries to put them like this, and retards don't read manuals

>>102318880
>>/fwt/
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>>102318810
Left memory is supposed to go all the way right, correct?
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>>102318213
Hm, what if I unscrew the other three and wiggle the bracket a little? will it put too much pressure on the chip on one side?
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>>102318770
>performs like shit
wut
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>>102318897
>what is the technical reason why the dual channel needs to be separated this way?
2 slots that are next to each other shares the same bus. Like two cars trying to fit on a single lane road.
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>>102318897
I don't know for sure but I suspect it's a cost optimization. Makes the trace layout easier/cheaper to manufacture.
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>>102318810
That's memory rank maxing
>>102318897
Because it's geometrically easier (nearer) for 2 slots to be on the same channel
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>>102316931
think outside the box
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>>102318550
>253W
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>>102319144
>125w? what do you mean 253w is a low power draw? 320w won't trip your breaker!
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my 500gb 850 evo kicked the bucket today after 7 years

is there anyway I can recover my furry porn or am I cooked
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>>102319590
>blackwell delayed
>rdna4 cucked to midrange
>battlelmage (lol)
>zen5%
>arrowlake new socket again and delayed
2024 worst year for pc hardware confirmed
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>>102314624
https://youtu.be/uMTqUBJ4Iuw?si=JmxGHpLpIQeqglad

Saw this vid saying to be weary of used mobos. What are signs that they're bad? Just replaced mine with one with its already installed CPU.

Is it a matter of it not working or not working correctly and might be hard to notice?

Mind you I got it from the thrift store I work at so only paid a few dollars.
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>>102319668
other than using an oscilloscope or multimeter to measure specific votlage rails, its entirely a gamble
that said, i've bought many used mobos locally and havent ran into a bad one so ymmv
>Mind you I got it from the thrift store I work at so only paid a few dollars.
dont put an expensive cpu or ssd into it on first boot. test with the lowest end celeron/i3 and old hdd/ssd to verify it wont kill any parts
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>>102319668
I am not watching the video but I assume the only thing that's safe to buy is ram because it never goes bad
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>>102319838
I'd say ram and cpus are low risk, but I have had a second hand cpu die.
SSDs are medium risk.
motherboards and gpus are high risk.
AIOs and PSUs don't buy second hand. same with HDDs really.
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>>102319701
>>102319838
So if my new used mobo has had SSDs and HDD hooked up and other parts and it's all reading working as normal then I'm safe and it should all be good ?

Or should I be putting it under higher loads to see how it works from here
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i have a 4090 7600x with an lgc2
i want a monitor now since im getting back into fps, wondering if the new 480hz 1440p oled OR the dual mode 4k/1080p 480hz will still be fine
or is actually getting to a point where my cpu is a limiting factor,(from what ive seen thats unlikely but i know for fps eventually it becomes a thing, but 4090 at 2k/HD)

just seeing which would you guys reckon as a shooter screen or if i do get one do i consider a new CPU down the line
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>>102319985
also if i have to updoot my cpu im waitfagging till the good shit drops(whatever that is lomao AMD)
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tryna make build for 4k gaming future proof (lol) original budget was 4k AUD (and a 4080 super instead), but then I remembered I need a monitor, and I live in Oz with 3rd world shithole prices, but it's okay cos my gf is doing overtime at her boss's house (sometimes she stays all night!) and he said he'd pay for a 4090 instead. she's the best <3
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6QDdpB
>inb4 4080s is better value
yeah yeah but I'm not gonna upgrade again for 6-8yrs or so, so thinking of going all out. yeah the 4090 Strix is a bit more than Gigabyte but I've heard it cools a bit better? gets fucken hot here lads. do I need more fans? mobo and power supply good enough for when I upgrade GPU down the line?
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>>102320029
youd need a 5090 to run games at 4k
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Which brand should I get from Amazon if I want a 4070 super for 600usd max?
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>>102320029
im literally the guy in the post above you, check umart and newegg
i got this on the 21'st of jan last year
and got a lgc2 for 1400 from retravision with price matching plus 5% discount from RAC
you dont have to listen to me and my 4090 isnt a big brand, but fuck its insane that im still paying less than everyone else lmaoooooooooo
(my card is inno3d so maybe i get facefucked for not going a big brand but whatever nigga)
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>>102319985
>7600x
>480hz 1080P on a 4090
isn't that a big bottleneck?
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>>102319985
if you're on a 7600X you should wait for the 9800X3D
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>>102320125
did i just fucking ask that or what
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>>102319954
>So if my new used mobo has had SSDs and HDD hooked up and other parts and it's all reading working as normal then I'm safe and it should all be good ?
yes. what you want to avoid is to short out your good components with a sketchy board which happens sometimes on the cpu power delivery side
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>>102320138
can you just use google or fucking what? rude beggars are the worst
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Why is the AOC Q27G4X so cheap compared to the Dell G2724D or the ASRock PG27QFT2A when it seems to be better?
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>>102320160
oh man you owned me by saying my cpu is probably a bottleneck at 1080p on a 4070ti when i literally said it probably is and why im considering a 1440p
you literally provided no service to me, you just proved you're a fat cunt manlet
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>>102320208
buy a better CPU before you even consider 480hz lmao
retard.
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>>102320125
>low 0.1%
I thought the AMDip was a meme
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>>102320122
>under 3k! bargain!
our country is fucked lmao
>lgc2
42 inch holy shit. how does 1440p (or god forbid 1080p) look on that?
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>>102320241
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>>102320236
k i will whenever the x3ds that aren't shit come out or just get a 7800x3d at the end of the year
>>102320266
no i get you, but you're considering a 4090 for not 1080p or 2k but 4k right?, i dont particularly froth every game 4k max settings on this (darktide, cyberpunk fuckin forza), but thats just cranking everything to max and it being a playable powerpoint or using dlss nd shit to make it playable, ill be dead honest in games where there's fast motion theres literally zero reason to have everything cranked to the max, you just dont notice the details you're rendering

might just be me though, probably me but i have a big ass screen so i should see more than the average person
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>>102320348
>k i will whenever the x3ds that aren't shit come out or just get a 7800x3d at the end of the year
wise choice
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>>102320327
nice benchmark from the same game.. not
this is also not a dip
both cpus fall 20fps.
in the other benchmark the CPUs break down by over 50%
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>>102320348
yeah nah I only ask cos that's where I'm at currently, a 2080s 4k laptop (shoulda been a desktop) that I've been running at 1440p to get more life out if it cos it's having a hard time with 4k now
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Would a 10400f Bottleneck a 3060ti?
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>>102320416
i think it shows the dip probably has a different origin than the CPU itself
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>>102320170
>AOC Q27G4X
VN
>Dell G2724D
IPS
>ASRock PG27QFT2A
IPS
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there is no dip, jewfus is just a retarded intel shill and a scammer
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>>102320490
>and a scammer
why would you buy anything from him
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do i want a 4-5 year old 4k 60hz or a new 1440p 144hz+
use case is just watching movies/series
is having access to 400hdr worth it at all? hdr seems like a total meme to me.
is there a point to getting 1440p when im just going to have to get 4k content anyway and watch it downscaled on a screen with less ppi?
no gaming at all will take place on this monitor, just boring daily drive tasks.
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>>102320427
dawg as long as your new monitor is bigger than your laptop screen you're going to be golden seriously. everyone adapts to their new screen in the first week anyway so you're going to be seeing way more at the price of seeing some pixels your brain is going to eliminate anyway, yeah going down to lower res' to 4k is noticeably in hud elements and stuff but really like you said im on a fuckin tv, the pixel density of 99, all other monitors shit on that currently, the 480hz one i was considering is 110 PPI at 1440p
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>>102320533
watching movies/series
most of them are encoded in 23.768 fps and now many stuff is streamed in 4K, youill also need that if you watch UHD blu rays.
> 400hdr
you'll see more details in bright and dark stuff that supports HDR but don't expect real HDR brightness.
try to find a 4K screen that has local dimming for HDR
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>>102320530
I wouldn't because I'm not as thick as shit
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>>102320434
it doesn't show anything because all 3 cpus are from the same gen and architecture. could be different or could be not. we never know
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>>102320562
>23.768 fps
23.976 sorry
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>>102320533
if you arent gaming, you dont need over 60hz.
if you want to watch 4k videos, you want a 4k monitor
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>>102320562
>>102320651
ASUS VG289Q or Samsung U28R550 both are same panel, 28", anything stand out as better/worse? asus seems to have more brightness but samsung doesn't have built in speakers which i'd almost prefer, hate the trend of monitors having speakers but it still has audio jack so it'll still fuck with my sound settings
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Just ordered all of these (plus 4 Noctua case fans) and now I feel like a kid waiting for Santa.
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>>102320533
>is having access to 400hdr worth it at all?
You need to be specific as to what type of HDR 400 you are referring to. For DisplayHDR 400 it is a waste of time. If it is DisplayHDR TrueBlack 400 then it is no meme as that only applies to oled screens.

>hdr seems like a total meme to me.
Only because you've never seen it. DisplayHDR 1000 and oleds can give a real HDR output.
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>>102320704
get rid of that dogshit aio and just get a fat hunk of metal noctua or bequiet or whatever. aio's are a meme that need to die out, it'll fail within a few years plus all the extra noise.
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>>102316328
No local coop and no split screen
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>>102320676
>ASUS VG289Q or Samsung U28R550
the samsung doesn't seem to support 24p but idk if it's something you would use, it's to display blu-rays at native refresh rate for cleaner movement. you can also do that with software like kodi but idk if you will watch files or jut use a streaming service.
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>>102320704
your power supply is way too chunky, get like an 850w unless you're gonna be running 2 4090s.
the power efficiency on power supplies is dogshit if you're not hitting 70-85% usage, it's a curve not a flat line.
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>>102315669
Where did you get the info that Eagle its competitive? I can't find info about that model on techpowerup.
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16gb 4060 ti to play path of exile 2 and ai memes
do you think it will run 4k60fps?
based or retarded?
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>>102320775
just watching media from files, only streaming will be yt videos that i don't really care about having insane quality on.
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>>102320801
https://versus.com/en/asus-tuf-gaming-vg289q1a-28-vs-samsung-u28r552uqu-28
the asus one seems to have better contrast and luminance anyway
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>>102320726
kill yourself
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>>102320466
the AOC G27G4X is IPS though
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So after switching to a new case I realized that the biggest noise maker, the son of a bitch that gets on my nerves, is the stupid ass HDD I have.
How durable are SSDs these days? I want to replace this. I don't have much need for space even though nowadays it pays off to be a hoarder.
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>>102320881
SSD are built to last but they have limited write cycles, you can read all you want, so best to fill them with data you want to keep long term, not constantly deleting and rewriting.
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>>102320881
pull the power connector off when you don't use the drive
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>>102320898
Well that's perfect, I barely write shit on my HDD, I kept the same TB of bullshit I never play or watch for years now.
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>>102320903
I just wish Windows had a way to just not turn it on at all until it's accessed instead of this thing where you gotta wait for it to turn off and it just turns itself on at random
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What's this cable dangling from my liquid freezer iii? It has a sleeve on it and it looks just like the RGB led cable I plugged in from the psrt that's mounted on the CPU, but that one was female and this one is male (so pointy ended)

Manual doesn't mention it at all
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Day 523 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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>>102320940
I'm going to assume from dealing with similar things that this is so you can daisy chain that RGB shit and have like 3 or 4 fans using the same RGB
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>>102320940
looks like a protective cap on it. it's just the last male in the daisy chain i think.
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>>102320966
Your gonna be waiting a long time rdna is dying after 5 udna is a decade away
Blackwell is doa and overpriced
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>>102320978
Yeah, it's just a protective cap, pulls right off and exposes the pins.

>>102320974
Oh yeah, that makes sense. Thanks.
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>>102320820
thanks bro
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>>102321031
no prob
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i bought an open box 4090 for AI stuff
first time buying open box. crossing my fingers
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>>102321168
https://youtu.be/izdPOcMT6Rg
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5090 when? I want to run games on 4k at 240hz
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How big of an upgrade is a 4070 super over a 2080 super with a 10700KF if I was going to upgrade?
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>>102321322
I dunno we don't know your apps
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>>102321316
There are no 4k 240hz panels so you got scammed by whoever sold you one
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>>102321363
???
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>>102321322
It's a good 70% faster at 4k
Less improvement at lower resolutions since I'd imagine you'd get CPU bottlenecked fast
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>>102321322
about tree fiddy
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>>102314685
They won’t have to. Since AMD are no longer making high end cards we’re stuck with sapphire pulses now.
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>>102314685
Evga's 3090 ftw3s look way better
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>>102321363
I got the Alienware one, 4k 240hz for 1.1k
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>>102321501
why the fuck evga dip out of the gpu market, their cards were the only ones that looked any decent
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Sorry, just another PC Build Help post.

geizhals.de/wishlists/4002564
Got some parts multiple times inside.

The CPU, GPU are fix I think. I´m looking for a motherboard, RAM and PSU that are working perfectly together with the cpu/gpu.

Tell me if I can do something for you.
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>>102321646
Nvidia are scum
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>>102316397
nvidia pays studios to write increasingly badly optimized games so the treadmill can keep rolling
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>>102321646
they made far more from their psu side business than the rest of their business combined
and the owner of evga got really old and wanted to wind down operations instead of seeing it continue on without him
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>>102314685
That isn't even their best design.
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>>102317987
Deepcool was banned in the US, get a thermalright peerless assassin or phantom spirit, whichever one is cheaper for you.
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>>102321279
what the hell man
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VGA and Boot lit up, waited about 8 min (heard about the long boots with ddr5) and then shut it off.

I've read that I should update the bios first from USB. Any other tips on what I should do?
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I stopped caring for most titles coming out for gaming
Only thing I'm looking out for is Monster Hunter Wilds and maybe the fake persona game because of the JRPG itch
do I need to retire my 1080ti setup for this yet anons?
My monitor is 1440p 165hz but I'm contest just having 60 fps
I could do re4remake just fine so I'm hopeful for the next 1-2 years, thoughts?
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>>102322175
Only upgrade when you are unhappy with the experience you are getting.
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No need to wait for 9000x3d when the 7950x3d is selling at 7800x3d prices.
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>>102316975
>evil
Youre not gonna do shit /pol/tard
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>>102322213
The fact that the wrangling the 7950x3d needs filtered so many gamers and drives down prices has been a godsend for those that know how to tame the beast.
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when can I buy intel. please no trolling.

legit just want to update . I do post production vfx. rendering. I don't think AMD will do well with this.

sorry no flame wars. legit looking for /g/bros
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>>102322255
Its not even hard, just have to use process lasso and install the latest chipset drivers and 24h2 to get better frames than a 7800x3d.

How are pc builders that retarded
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X24BzyzQQ-8

Okay, RDNA4 in October confirmed.
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>>102322286
The intel Ultra 9 285K is releasing on 24 October
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>>102322351
should I "wait" a year for it to be good. or is this the polished product?
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>>102322286
why do you think AMD cpus are incapable of rendering?
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>>102322379
Until intel can find out 3d caching and not making their cpus self immolate then they are dead in the water so not worth paying attention to
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>>102322394
>>102322404

ive read here and watched youtube videos that intels are good for production / rendering / video editing.
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>>102322408
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>>102322308
>800€
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>>102322408
Intel CPUs are really good but their power draw under load is horrendous (>300W) and will cause throttling after a while slowing them down
Intel cores are pretty fast and will punch above it's weight in shitty programs like Adobe, but amd's zen5 as fast (or usually much faster) since it's a newer uarch that released this year
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>>102322483
yeah but it comes bundled with a game
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>sony released ml based upscaler before amd
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>>102322464
what do you know intel's top chip and amd's do when they are men tto do.

>>102322507
I don't use adobe I use Nuke by the Foundry.


thankyou tho. perhaps its amd time
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Both my old laptops died Intel oxy inside CPUs shit themselves what's a good umpc? Gaming laptops are way overpriced just for htpc work or should I shove my a770 into a fullsize desktop?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mt6wOUc

Just seems like something new never had a umpc before and this would be comfy for htpc and mobile gaming on road trips and shit
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>>102322527
Yeah, no idea what that program is. You'll have to look up benchmarks and see whether AMD CPUs are well supported. If they are, the 9950x will be the fastest CPU you can buy today if not, get a i9 285K next month since Intel's 13900k and 14900k are plagued by reliability issues
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>>102322483
that's for console, so I expect 8800xt going to be $700, paystation dude said double to triple RT performance, so who knows
mind you 4070ti super is $800 MSRP and goes for $1k in the wild.
308 mm2 PS5 die size, PS5 pro is likely the same, make your bets how fast RDNA4 is.

>>102322526
anon, it is the AMD upscaler, you know that right? Sony didn't create PS5 pro - AMD did.
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>>102322571
I bet nvidia did this
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>>102322571
But can you run Linux?
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>>102322573
PLAYSTATION SPECTRAL SUPER RESOLUTION
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>>102322603
yea, and microsoft calls it whatever too while it's being the normal FSR
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>>102322308
But they didn't mention the architecture did they? I thought it was some kind of RDNA 3.5 thing. It'll be funny if PSSR ends up being much better than FSR though.
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>>102322573
He was comparing to the rdna2 GPU used in the ps5 and we don't know what he's specifically talking about.
Also rdna3 is already a fair bit faster in RT than rdna2
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>>102322614
All they said was "Larger GPU", whatever the hell that marketing BS means.

For all we know its just RDNA2 with more CUs. like a binned power efficient RX 6800 now instead of a RX 6700 tier.
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>>102322637
The faster RT hints at either rdna3 or more like rdna3.5 and a slight chance of it maybe being rdna4
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>>102322571
Lol reminds me of 2004 all over again then Sony took til 2007 to release the fucking thing
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>>102322654
Keep in mind that Sony uses their own RT libraries and API. They aren't using DXR or DirectX. That simple fact can allow RDNA 2 RT to scale higher especially if the CU count is doubled.
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>>102322614
>>102322654
the ps5 pro rumor is 2 years old. they delayed the thing likely several times, my bet is on proper RDNA4
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>>102322690
>The company didn't go into a lot of details but from what was officially mentioned, the GPU side will be getting a 67% uplift in compute units which ends up to 60 CUs versus the 36 CUs featured on the PlayStation 5, a 28% increase in memory speed which will clock at 18 Gbps speeds for 576 GB/s of total bandwidth, all delivering up to 45% faster rendering performance.
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>>102322735
>the GPU side will be getting a 67% uplift in compute units which ends up to 60 CUs versus the 36 CUs featured on the PlayStation 5
So its a RX 6800.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6800.c3713
It has 60 CUs exactly
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>>102322735
>36CUs
>60CUs
Babby's first GPU lmao
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>>102322853
>>102322853
>>102322853
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>>102322612
FSR doesn't use machine learning anon
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>>102322890
it can since its open source
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/993090/view/3370400292102471889
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>>102322994
AMD's FSR doesn't use ML, retard.
If Sony added a ML component on-top then that's different.
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>>102322213
thats the price from one chinese scammer you fucking retard nigger

turn white or never talk again, shitskin
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>>102315941
check newegg
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>>102322571
dafuq
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>>102322571
so the disc drive is sold separately what in the actual fuck. these will not sell well



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