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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.
https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345

>Intel Raptor Lake / RPL Refresh
Instability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.

>CPUS
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 12100
Gaming: R5 7600; budget: R5 5600; eXtreme: R7 7800X3D
Multicore: R9 7950X; budget: i5 13500
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU

>GRAPHICS CARDS
1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super
1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32

>COOLERS
Standout: Peerless Assassin 120 (or variant)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>PSUS
A new PSU should be ATX 3.0 compliant
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>SSDS
WD SN850X 2TB
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDs
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARDS
Good power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and above
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset

>GAMING MONITORS
Dell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

Previous: >>102425780
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Buy the RTX 5090
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My GPU somehow reaches 460W(3080 on phone emus btw). Should I grab the 1000W one for PSU or not?
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Any idea what might be causing my screen to randomly go black for a few seconds and then come back on like nothing happened? Not getting anything saying it's a driver crashing or restarting. Seems completely random, it's happened while I was watching youtube and once while I was gaming
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5090 32gb DDR7
5080 16gb DDR7
5070 12gb DDR7
5060 8gb DDR7
5050 8gb DDR6

8800XT 16gb DDR6
8800 16gb DDR6
8700 12gb DDR6
8600 12gb DDR6
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>>102436524
*G
*G
*G
*G
*G

*G
*G
*G
*G
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>>102436524
16 is passable for couple years, tops I've seen is 13Gb on 7900XT at 1440p. It's barely passable at 4k though.
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>>102436524
what if, what if 8800XT as fast as 5080, will it even budge AMD share at all? I remember 560ti was overpriced garbage but people still didn't buy AMD.
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>>102436524
>>102436599
use case for more than 8gb of VRAM? my 1080 chokes on newer games but I've still never seen anything max out my vram
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literally every amd (and ati) card i have bought has given me driver issues or has not worked out of the box
nvidia cards could be 3x as much for 2x less performance and i would still never buy another amd card
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>>102436444
>Instability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings.
Intel Baseline cripples the performance of non-K chips. 18439 with Intel Baseline enabled while 29387 with ASUS Performance enabled
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>>102436630
skill issue
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>>102436609
>>102436624
>>102436630
Say something nice about AMD GPUs
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>>102436609
Greatest AMD enemy - AMD own marketing
>mfw starting price of 7900xt/xtx
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>>102436609
There's no sense asking this question because we already know the 8800XT, at best, will be between 7900GRE and 7900XT
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>>102436651
>7900xt/xtx

Regardless of price, were they good cards?
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>>102436650
Powercolor has a neat naming scheme, give me a 5080 Red Devil please.
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>>102436640
Well yeah, that's the price you have to pay for safety.
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>>102436524
Battlemage ???(BIG chip) - 16Gb GDDR6
Battlemage ???(Medium chip) - 12Gb GDDR6
Battlemage ???(small chip) - 8Gb GDDR6
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What were the first 8GB and 16GB gpus?
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>>102436444
Do any companies still do 21/22 inch monitors? Are there any that aren't completely entry level bare bones?

Think I'd be dumb going from a 29 inch wide screen (which is basically just a wider 24inch) to this next size down?

Used to be on a 27 inch but found them too big
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>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

If you weren't using these, you may as well be using integrated
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>>102436630
Ok but who asked for your opinion jensen
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Sorry if this is a retarded question but I have a MSI mpg 321urx monitor, is the power cable (the one that connects the monitor to a wall outlet) called anything specific? I wanted to see if I could find/buy a longer one, tried to use a search engine but I just get results for a usb-c cable that looks nothing like the power cable I currently have.
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>>102436650
the GPU I have had the least problems with was my HD 7850, I had not a single software issue with it.
nvidia's vaunted drivers have given me experiences like:
unplayable levels of stuttering in supreme commander forged alliance, until the FAF people figured out a workaround. it still took nvidia a year to fix the underlying problem
forcing anti-aliasing inexplicably not working in some games until I go into nvidia inspector and find the correct compatibility bits. in some games there are no correct compatibility bits, and forcing AA just doesn't work, at all
anisotropic filtering just not working in DX9 games. I have to use dxvk for dx9 games and force anisotropic filtering in the dxvk settings, because forcing it in the nvidia settings doesn't work for native dx9
this is me btw >>102436624
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>>102436656
>we already know the 8800XT
we do? from docs we know they did some interesting stuff with raster processing, that's about it, we don't know how good it is on silicon
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>>102436658
I use one, yes they are good cards, they would be amazing cards if they started at current price point.
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Could I build a PC that gets at least 60 fps in WoW and 144 fps in Rocket League and CS2 at 1080p for under $800? Already have SSDs and a monitor
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>>102436624
Moern games adapt to your VRAM, they don't stutter you to death, prime example Hogwarts, it chokes but it doesn't makethe game entirely unplayable
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>>102436658
You always have to consider the price to understand what is good and what is bad.
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>ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO
>7800X3D
>ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360
>7900 XTX
>G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 96GB DDR5 6800MHz
>SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB
>SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB

Did I do good bros?
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>>102436762
>You always have to consider the price to understand what is good and what is bad.

What are considered the good cards right now?
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>>102436769
>ANUS mobo
>x670E at that
Enjoy your overpriced shit with no warranty. Other than that you're good.
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>>102436800
>x670E

What's wrong with this
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>>102436780
IMHO - 4070 Super for NVidia , 7900 GRE for AMD
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>>102436769
2/10
1 point each for picking a good cpu and gpu
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>>102436726
We know there is no high end RDNA4 so 7900XTX remains top dog for Radeon
6800XT -> 7800XT was around 4% - 6% improvement and even at, let's say, 12% over the 7800XT, the 8800XT would just barely beat the GRE on average.
8800XT would need a 30% improvement to reach 7900XT but I can't see that happening if AMD was content with the minimal improvement going from 6800XT to 7800XT
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>>102436841
6800xt used the flagship navi21 die while 7800xt uses midrange navi32
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>>102436841
>6800XT -> 7800XT was around 4% - 6% improvement
You realize that was because the number of CUs got heavily cut down from 72 to 60, right? If 8800XT keeps the same number it should absolutely do better than a few percent.
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>>102436808
x670E has a lot of unnecessary stuff you can't even use
>PCIe 5.0 when even RTX 4090 use PCIe 4.0
>OC support when x3D CPU's don't support OC
>Fat VRM when x3D don't take much power
>etc.
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Halo 2 was too ambitious. It was like two generations too early for the tech it was trying to push. Even if they did manage to ship stencil shadows, the resolution/performance would have been too low. pic-related is only simulated/approximated btw, it's not even the real deal that could have been with pixel perfect shadows and dynamic lights.

Xbox had a high end PC-level GPU coupled with a low-tier Pentium III 733 CPU with a crippled cache. The system has Direct X 8.1, shader model 1.1, vertex shader 1.1 and two Vertex Shader units, while the Geforce 3's only had one. The Xbox GPU was quite powerful.

Microsoft was in a lawsuit against Nvidia over the original Xbox. Nvidia made the GPU for the Xbox. Nvidia was unhappy with the money they were making and wanted more. Microsoft said no. Nvidia somehow sued for breach of contract. They settled out of court.

Microsoft then immediately dumped Nvidia as their GPU partner. AMD (formerly known as ATI) stepped up and took the place of Nvidia.

>Halo 3
>Halo Reach
>Halo 4

1152×640 resolution.
Xbox 360 GPU is somewhere between an AMD X1950 and 2900 XT

>Halo 5
>Halo Infinite

Using DDR3 memory compared to the PS4's GDDR5
Underpowered GPU compared to the PS4
Non user-replaceable storage, compared to the PS4's just slide the cover off and take out the HDD mechanism.
Huge controversy surrounding its initial decision to be always online and incompatible with second hand games

Halo 5 beta was 720p only, where the final game is dynamic 1080p (on the original Xbox One).
Xbox One could barely run Halo 5, they wanted Halo Infinite to run on the same hardware.
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im not getting a 7800xd, am i? did they stop making them? what am i going to do?
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>>102436904
It's futureproofed at least
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>>102436883
we can't be sure 60CU going to be the limit, since PS5 got 60CUs, 72CU isn't out of reach in theory, but again monolithic RDNA4, the die limit is likely 350mm2-ish so who know how many CUs they can isnert at 4nm
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>>102436883
>>102436841
the 8800xt is supposed to have 4 more CUs than the 7800xt so a similar 25% uplift in per-CU performance will put it at ~30% above the 7800xt, or at 7900xt levels. I think its nuts to expect it to match the 4080 or xtx though
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>>102436913
7700x is perfect. you do not need X3D unless you want 200fps+
single core isn't that important anymore, you want 8c for modern games to avoid stutters like, for example Jedi Survivor did, I didn't experience any complains people had because of my 7700x
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>>102436935
yeah there's no way its hitting 7900XTX/4080 tier but I don't know why people are having trouble believing it being 7900XT tier when the 4070ti is 10% weaker than the 7900XT at 295mm N5
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>>102436935
clocks is also a factor, rumor had it they run those cores at 2800 on average, if they can push 3-3.2Ghz it can be cool.
also, seriously 7900xt=4080 in raster, 80super is another matter.
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>>102436918
With R7-7800x3D your next CPU will be on AM6.
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>>102436936
>you do not need X3D unless you want 200fps+
yes
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>>102436955
>>102436957
>>102436954
>>102436950
What can we expect from the 9800X3D
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What's with these retarded ass OPs? For 1440p it used to be a 4070 Ti Super, then it was a 4080 Super, now it's 4070 Super?
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>>102436964
Take Zen 4 non-X3D to Zen 5 non-X3D and apply it to 7800X3D
Why would you expect anything different?
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>>102436964
they changed v-cache on zen5, nobody knows for real yet.
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>>102436964
doomfags expect 5% over the 7800X3D, the fact is AMD made the infinity fabric bottleneck worse with Zen5 so that alone could see a significant uplift but they also apparently fixed it so it can run at regular clock speeds for Zen5 so nobody knows what the uplift will be.
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>>102436964
I'm a little pessimistic after launch of non-x3D 9000 Ryzens, so-o-o-o...
> +3+5% perfomance
> -5-10% power draw
> Overprice on start then -20% drop in 6 months
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>>102436968
first rule of /pcbg/ - do not read the OP about CPUs and GPUs.
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>>102436975
Yeah, it'll basically be this which means it's not significant enough to worry about. It never is because there's always something newer and betterer coming out. Just buy the fucking hardware and stop stressing out. PCIe 5.0 SSDs have been out but everyone recommends 4.0 ones because the 5.0s overheat and are overpriced.
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>>102436968
4070 Super for 1440 sounds about right
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>>102437005
I would argue buying GPUs at the end of generation is a stupid idea. Best time is always to buy at the start of each generation to use it for maximum time of peak performance.
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>>102436997
>I'm a little pessimistic after launch of non-x3D 9000 Ryzens

What's wrong with them?
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>>102437026
> +3+5% perfomance
> -5-10% power draw
> Overprice on start then -20% drop in 6 months
Over Zen 4 that is
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>>102437026
5% gaming uplift over Zen4, but prices are high compared to Zen4 so its not really worth buying the new generation.
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>>102437040
>gaming

What games? PS4 ports?
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>>102437026
Little performance gain compared to 7000 Ryzens
Overpriced compared to 7000 Ryzens
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Why are AMD better on the mid to low end gpu?
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Has anyone tested rpcs3 on zen 5 CPUs yet? I've heard that it loves AVX512
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>>102437069
>building a PC to play PS3 games

Bro?
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>>102437083
The PS3's architecture was really retarded and even modern systems struggle to emulate it well.
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sPmHkJ

Any advice on this or is it fine to go?

1440p gaming and maybe some ai shit. Ill be getting a new monitor but havent decided on one yet.
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>>102436624
texture quality and shading.
as other guy said, games adapt to your vram.
look at hardware unboxed vid titled '16 gb is obsolete' or something liek that.

can clearly see the difference in texture quality, sharp vs blurry.
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>>102437068
Gamers go for the green brand by default so the red brand has to offer better value at the same price.
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>>102437110
whats with the SFX power supply?
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Bros, just woke up from a 10 years coma, are Nvidia/Intel no longer the GOAT combo? what are real chads using these days?
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>>102437202
Nvidia/AMD
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recommend me a mid-range build under 900 for gayming
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>>102437202
Go back to sleep nigger
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1080p, 6650xt, wanna up a notch. what would you do?
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>>102437188
i dont know, is it bad?
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>>102437110
Get any Asrock b650 board instead of that overpriced motherboard.
Proart cards are also really overpriced and will perform the same as any other 4080 super.
You can get cheaper memory and cooler if you go for non-RGB versions.
Get a regular ATX power supply, that model is a weird form factor.
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So I'm confused because of all this convoluted marketing.
Arrow Lake will have an NPU for AI tasks but I obviously have an Antisemitic Micro Devices CPU which doesn't have one.
But I bought a 4080 Super alongside it. So can't I just use the GPU to accomplish the same thing? Doesn't it already mog the upcoming Estrogen™ AI CPUs?
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>>102436769
I think you did fine regardless of your specs. I just rate it on your image.
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>>102437069
picrel

>>102437253
NPUs only make sense for laptops or SBCs where battery life/power consumption matters, any modern GPU will steamroll them regarding performance.
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>>102437235
7600 would be a slight upgrade. 7600 XT would be an okay upgrade if the price is right. 7700 XT would be the only noticeable upgrade.
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>>102437235
wait for RDNA4
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What are the GOAT CPUs and GPUs of all time?
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>>102437336
Whatever they put in the PS2.
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>>102437336
9900k
1080ti
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>>102437342
PS2 Emotion Engine and PS3 CELL were nightmares for programmers. the only people who actually got to use it to its full potential were Naughty Dog. People also forget that the reason Sony was so insistent on pushing their custom in the PS2 and PS3 was because they had plans to license out the Emotion Engine and Cell technology for other uses beyond video game consoles.

Kutaragi wanted the PS3 to ship with 1 cell as a cpu and 1 cell as a gpu. Mark Cerny is fucking insane for STILL having only himself know exactly how the PS3 worked and never sharing it with anyone aside from those secret CELL developers at Sony.

They were either falling behind in development, or realized that this was utter fucking stupidity, so they went plan B and asked Nvidia to give PS3's GeForce 7800 was also kind of old, being a pre-unified shaders design that was absolutely obsoleted within a year of the console's release by the 8800, bolted it on, and shipped it.

Mark Cerny wanted PS4 and PS5 to be AMD APUs because it was cheapest and easiest for programmers. any optimizations done for PS4 will just help PC get further ahead

>He points to an amusing video by Linus Tech Tips, which attempted to 'kill' the PlayStation 5 by building a $500 gaming PC that outperformed the console.

>"They had to get a used motherboard," he says. "That was the only way that they could build a PlayStation 5 equivalent for a PlayStation 5 price. And if you're using used parts… well you can get a used PlayStation 5 for eBay for $300-something.

FX-8350 @2GHz, a HD 7850 and a 5000 RPM hard drive are roughly equivalent to a PS4.

Ryzen 7 3700X and an RX5700 which are roughly equivalent to a PS5.

>TLDR
ps2 emotion engine and ps3 cell are japanese soul

ps4 and ps5 are basically budget AMD PCs
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>>102437336
>CPUs
The 8086, original Pentium, Athlon 64 because it gave us 64-bit, Core 2 Duo was amazing, first Ryzen CPUs which started the downfall of Intel, Apple M1 which cemented Intel's downfall.
>GPUs
GeForce 256 because it "invented" GPUs, Radeon 9700 Pro which made ATI a serious competitor to Nvidia, GTX 8800 for the DirectX 10 revolution, GTX 1080 was a massive deal at release, RX 480 for great value, 2080 Ti for starting the ray tracing meme which is ironic because it can't even handle ray tracing.
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>>102437387
>Athlon 64 because it gave us 64-bit
>Core 2 Duo was amazing
>first Ryzen CPUs which started the downfall of Intel

Explain these
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>>102437387
>DirectX 10 revolution

Wasn't DX10 hated?
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>>102437409
Yes - it doesn't help that in the early days nvidia basically didn't support it (lmao lets just get it patched out of assassin's creed!) so the number of DX10 games is very small overall and most of the time games supporting it don't really gain anything from it over DX9.
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>>102437430
What made DX9 so good and how much better are DX11 and 12?
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>>102437336
Sandy Bridge 2500K/2600K
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>>102437438
I'm not well versed enough to say with any authority but I wouldn't be surprised if programmable shaders is a major factor.
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>>102437395
Athlon 64 was AMD basically having to create a 64bit extension for x86 because Intel was trying to make a proprietary solution called Itanium.
Core2 Duo was the first multicore cpu.
AMD was something like 30% behind in IPC with Bulldozer to catching up to Sandy Bridge with Zen1, catching up to Haswell with Zen+ and catching up to Coffee Lake with Zen2. Then Zen3 they were on top.
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>>102437472
>Bulldozer

Were Phenom and FX really that bad
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>>102437472
Zen 1 was faster than sandy bridge - it matched haswell, david kantor.
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>>102437482
compared to Intel yes, AMD almost folded and as bad as things are for Intel now they are still competitive and arrow lake will probably be good.
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I have bought a used PC from the Marketplace which supposedly should have a 5800X3D CPU.
This is what I see in HWinfo, Task Manager and AMD Adrenalin. Have I been scammed?
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>>102437495
true in multithreading, AMD were offering more cores

>>102437503
yes
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>>102437503
You got grifted

Sorry for your loss
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>>102437239
NTA. Not necessarily, but be aware that SFX psus generally come with short cables so you might need extensions to hook them up in a full sized case
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>>102437387
>Apple M1 which cemented Intel's downfall.

When and why did Apple stop using Intel and AMD GPU?
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>>102437531
Ok also to add to this, I actually own that power supply. I didn't click on the link to see what it was before replying
I needed extension cables to plug it into my mobo in a Fractal Meshify 2. Luckily I had some laying around so it wasn't a big deal, but basically that is the caveat with SFX PSUs. They get the job done but come with shorter cables
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>>102437503
yeah
go full karen on your seller and get your money back
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>Arrow Lake is going to support 10,000+ MT/s memory
>AMD still sticking to their ancient obsolete IMC made of poo and cringe that struggles to post at 6000
AMDsisters...
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>>102437542
>When
2020

>Why
Nominally, power and heat but knowing Apple it's all about the lock-in.
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>>102437542
they stopped using nvidia because nvidia suck to work with, they stopped using intel and amd because they were in a position to build their own silicon for better margins
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>>102437571
the MC is fine, the IF cannot keep up
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>buy 1TB NVME
>regret it, most games are massive in size
>buy 2TB
>regret it, FL Studio VST libraries and sample packs
>pondering 4TB
Does the consoomption ever end?
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>>102437571
amd's imc is great. it runs in full gear 1 mode at 3000mhz while intel's cheats by running in gear 2 at 2000mhz running 8000mt/s ram or 1600mhz with 6400mt/s ram. And amd's doesnt have weird reboot stability gacha you get with intel's when running 7200mt/s+ speeds
its the IF that's mega gimped to 64GB/s read between the IOD and CCD that's the main bottleneck
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>>102437571
>>102437639
Why is AM5 bootup so bad?
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>>102437632
You need 8TB
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>>102437642
Its really not these days
I have am5 and lga1700 and my 7800x3d boots identically to my 13900k
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>>102437632
This is why I plan to do 2TB+2TB minimum on my new build and leaning towards 4TB as my secondary to use it as my photo editing cache
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>>102437571
AMD can run higher memory speeds than Intel (stable) since AGESA 1008
it could probably do 10000 if the boards would keep up
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>>102437285
aye I feel the same.
>>102437285
waiting is for fags but I guess I'm one now. roger that.
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>>102437503
yes
though normalfags get PC parts wrong all the time, could have been an honest mistake
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>>102437724
>>102437327
oopsie dasaie. meant for you about the waiting.
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Thinking of getting used HP 3080 10 G for 300 euros, which seems bang for buck to me. Yet the gpu has damaged HDMI port, in which connected the display has "snow". Claims DP works fine. Is it only HDMI problem, or can be memory module aswell?
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>>102436444
7800x3d +4070 s is 1100 usd in chile

Expensive or nah
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>>102437841
What's the full spec list?
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>>102437850
Only those 2 part
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What's the cheapest modern mini-itx+cpu combo that'll run Rocket League (laugh at me) at 1440p @ 165hz consistently? (it's being paired with my ancient gtx 1070)
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>>102437841
expensive and nah.
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>>102437911
>cheapest modern mini-itx+cpu combo
it's going to be expensive no matter what, miniITX is for richfags
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>>102437911
5700X3D from AliEx and the cheapest B450 mITX board you can find. You'd have to make sure it has BIOS Flashback so you can flash the BIOS without a CPU installed just in case since the 5700X3D is a real latecomer
Otherwise, Ryzen 7600 and the cheapest A620 mITX you can find. This'll be more expensive than the 5700X3D route.
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How long will the 7800X3D last before an upgrade?
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>>102438043
Until at least the first generation on AM6 and likely will still be perfectly fine during the second generation on AM6
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>>102438043
>>102438057
>Until at least the first generation on AM6 and likely will still be perfectly fine during the second generation on AM6

Why is it so GOAT? What went right here?
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>>102438011
and dumbass kids in 2017. I really wish I knew this back then.
>>102438029
Sorry, I forgot to mention I only have 3200mhz ddr4 ram and I think the Ryzen 7600 needs ddr5, right?

Fuck it. What if I went with an matx/atx motherboard instead? I'll just get some cheap used case locally or on ebay.
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>>102438144
you could probably find a matx AM4 motherboard cheap enough new or used if you're really desperate, depending on your itx case matx might fit but they weren't forward thinking like that with early itx cases.
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>>102437696
I might do 4TB NVME for OS and main storage, and a 250GB SATA SSD I have laying around for secondary storage. I know I'll want 8TB at some point but it's too expensive right now.

>>102437649
If it wasn't €1000, I'd pull the trigger.
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>>102436444
any good monitor arm for 27 inch screens, that's under 100€?
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Can undervolting a 7800X3D help with coil whine under load? It's audible enough to be annoying without headphones when playing games at above 60 to 90 FPS. Furthermore, does anyone know if switching from HDMI to DP can help with coil whine?

The sound seems to be coming from my motherboard or GPU (audible from behind the motherboard), not my PSU.

>7800X3D
>B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI
>4070 Super
>Seasonic Focus GX 1000
>AOC 25G3ZM
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>>102438594
its probably the GPU or PSU, under-volting the 7800X3D wont help.
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bros my CPU fan just started making like a rattling noise.. anything I can do to fix it?
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Finally tried AFMF2 on the only heavy thing I have right now, TW3 with RT.
And what the fuck? why is it so good? It doesn't feel like playing at 50fps at all, it did feel like that on early DLSS frame gen when I tried it, don't know how it works now.
And I can double fps with in-driver switch? what is this wizardry?
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>>102438624
get a new fan, any PWM fan of the same size will do
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>have 3200 RAM sticks
>could have bought 3600
Am I missing out on a noticeable performance increase?
Is the price difference worth it?
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>>102438682
no. invest everything you save in GPU.
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>>102438682
there's a very high chance they can run 3600
increase all primary timings by 2
>Am I missing out on a noticeable performance increase?
not really, more on ryzen, less on intel
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>>102438682
from the tests I've seen, it entirely depended on the price difference. Past like 3000, bumps in speed were maybe 1-2% fps increase, so if the price difference was marginal, you could have gotten them
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>have an M.2 SSD 500
>don't have more m.2 spaces left
>will need a sata box
>they cost 15
>a new SSD 500 SATA costs 30
Not sure what to do. Is it worth it to get a box that might be good or not, or just get a new drive?
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>>102436524
>5090 32gb
No way
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>>102438705
Actually I forgot to mention I am a bit nerfed, because I have 2 3200 sticks in dual mode and 2 sticks in about 2166 or something. Not sure if the 3200 run at 3200 because they are paired with slower sticks.
My timing says
15 - 15 - 15 - 35
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>>102436524
5090 28gb
5080 20gb
5070 16gb
5060 12gb
5050 8gb

don't care about amd cards
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>>102438770
>Not sure if the 3200 run at 3200 because they are paired with slower sticks
all sticks will run at the same (slower) speed
>15 - 15 - 15 - 35
my guess is that you're running 2133-15-15-15-35
so XMP is not enabled
3200 to 3600 won't do much but 2133 to 3200/3600 will, that's a pretty serious nerf to performance
those slow sticks are likely shit (i assume they're really old) but if you're serious about this the first step is finding out what chips are in your RAM sticks: https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#integrated-circuits-ics
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>>102438789
All are Kingston Furys. These are from 2016.
It seems it will be much more beneficial to get a pair of 3200 to replace the old and have 4 of the same, than one 3600 pair.
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>>102438816
>>102438789
I am interested. I will check at home when I finish with my wageslaving.
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>>102438816
>Kingston Furys
kingston doesn't produce RAM chips
micron, hynix and samsung does
that's why you need to look at the serial number to find out the manufacturer of the chips (which tells you what to expect)
>It seems it will be much more beneficial to get a pair of 3200 to replace the old and have 4 of the same, than one 3600 pair.
it will, but it's not guaranteed that they will play well together (because of the reasons mentioned earlier, for example you could get micron in one kit and hynix in the other kit)
>>102438823
it's fun if you have undiagnosed autism and like playing with numbers, but you don't need to go very far before you hit diminishing returns
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What if I save the cash and instead of 4 sticks get 2 x 16GB 3200 ones.
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>>102438851
yeah that's the easiest option, do that if you want no headaches
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>>102438839
I will look at the chips. And make it right.
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>>102438816
If you buy a 2x set & buy a 2x set later, there is no guarantee they work together flawlessly
usually they will, especially if you buy them close together, but there's no guarantee
that's why it's recommended (if you can) to buy all the ram you need at once
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>Godlike
>Carbon
>Tomahawk
>Pro

How big is the gap between these
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>>102438594
Yeah it can but I doubt it'd help much on a 7800x3d since its already pulling very little power and uses very little voltage at stock
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>>102438878
>$1500
>$400
>$320
>$280
probably
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Would going for the 7800x3d be worth the extra 200€? My goal is to play MH Wilds next year without worrying too much about the settings.
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>>102438890
Spend the 200 on a better gpu
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>>102436444
I'm almost done assembling, but I have a conundrum - my Cooler Master V750i Gold has a little leaflet that says:
>the power supply unit has a number of software-based functions. In order to make full use of these features via MastePlus+ Software, a special USB Protocol cable is included and must be plugged directly to both the PSU and the motherboard
This was one of the first things I plugged to the PSU, the problem is that the Livemixer only has 2x USB 2.0 headers, so along with the case's usb cable, I'm out of headers, and I need one for the bluetooth.

I can technically leave without bluetooth, and also the 2x front USB slots, but is this alleged sofware any good? What functions does it enable?
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>>102438897
I was actually considering going even cheaper on an AMD card but I fell for the ray tracing meme. I'll think about getting the 4070 ti super, but the regular super already seems a bit overkill since I'll be playing at 1080p, at least for now.
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I need a case reminiscent of the late 00s and early 10s.
Like look at this specimen, the platonic ideal. Half acrylic side panel, 5.25" bays, no PSU shroud, front fans only at the lower part.
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>>102439004
>1080p
7600+4070S sounds perfect then
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what's the point of PSU shrouds anyway?
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>>102439067
its goyslop to "beautify" cases
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>>102438879
>>102438606
What about switching to DP from HDMI? Can HDMI cause problems of this kind, given its relation to framerate?
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>>102439067
more air pressure for gpu and cpu
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>>102439044
Cooler Master is going to be your greatest ally here. Another option is a used HAF X.
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Fellow Jews, how do we respond to this antisemitism?
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>>102439044
>>102439108
Yeah, Cooler Master is the best choice here. The HAF X is the greatest old school case ever made.
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>>102436630
Currently stuck on a driver from mid last year because it makes my pc stutter. This is not unique to me.
t. 3080 10gb
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We have these at work. Can I use them to blow shit from the inside of PSUs or is it gonna blow something off?
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>>102439155
Intel 36MB = amd 80MB if you look at gaming benchmarks
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>>102439192
Should be fine. I literally take my PC outside and use my leaf blower in it without problems. Just make sure you jam a ziptie or piece of wadded up paper towel between the fan blades to keep them from spinning up or just disconnect them from the motherboard while doing it.
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>>102439108
>>102439161
Anything currently in production?
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>>102439216
I'll have to bring the PSUs to work so they are disconnected. Is the fan spinning not gonna short anything in the psu itself?
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I'm out of the loop because I haven't even thought of upgrading the last few years, so I come here asking for advice
My current build
-Ryzen 5 3600
-Radeon RX 590
-A MSI Tomahawk something as motherboard I think
-16 gb of ram
Storage is fine
I survived until now with NO COOLING so this time I'd like to get some good cooling for my poor machine
I also need to change case ideally because the current one is kind of broken and I had to leave a side of it open air, so my components have been gathering dust for the last few months

What's a good budget graphic card? Is the 4060 a good option?
What about processors? Is ryzen still the go to for price/performance?
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>>102439265
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#D=16,4,8&G=1,12&sort=price&page=1
The Cougar MX330-G Pro, a few Silverstone cases like the SETA D1 & FARA 513 Type-C (no windowed side panels), and variants of the Fractal Define R7.
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>>102439309
Scrap that. I just saw the 6600, now that costs only 230 bucks online and seems to work pretty well
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Pro RS ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 700D ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Monitor: Philips 275E1S/00 27.0" 2560 x 1440 75 Hz Monitor
Monitor: Philips 275E1S/00 27.0" 2560 x 1440 75 Hz Monitor

Budget is 4K AUD, Case and Power Supply I already have.

Building a PC that I can comfortably use for 5+ years

I do programming and excited to get into local models, gaming, streaming, etc, etc. Are there any replacements I could make to shave off some budget without any noticable performance decreases?
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>>102439309
What is your gaming resolution and games do you like to play? Preliminary budget?

Your base system isn't half bad still.
You can update your MSI board's BIOS and drop in a nice 5700X3D upgrade easy (the jump from Zen 2 to Zen 3 generational performance and the inclusion of a dump truck's worth of extra cache with the -X3D variant will really help smooth out game frametimes). It's cheap on AliExpress right now @ $135:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806921974699.html

If taskmanager says you aren't running low on RAM yet no need to add more, but if you are at 80-90% usage you could think about throwing in an extra 2x16GB kit of DDR4-3200 CL16 for $48:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w98bt6/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bda

For a cheap but good cooling case, Montech is currently king with the 903 Base which has 3 included stock fans for $65:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kKcgXL/montech-air-903-base-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-base-b

>>102439422
>6600, now that costs only 230 bucks
86 that idea Anon, you can get a 3070 for the same price here which absolutely demolishes it.
https://www.jawa.gg/product/40389/rtx-3070-8gb-zotac-oem-blower-used

Found via https://bestvaluegpu.com/
^Actually a nice price tracker for new and used GPUs.
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will arrow lake support avx512?
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>>102439177
did you DDU?
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>>102439531
No, and neither will arrowlake refresh & pantherlake
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>>102439531
>will arrow lake support avx512?
Kinda?
https://hardwaretimes.com/intel-15th-gen-arrow-lake-cpus-expected-to-support-avx-512-as-part-of-avx10/
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>>102439564
>hardwaretimes
>23 July 2023
>Areej Syed
>>
Radeon HD 5000 series

AMD Radeon HD 5870 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 5950 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 5970 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit

Radeon HD 6000 series

AMD Radeon HD 6950 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 6970 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 6990 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

Radeon HD 7000 series

AMD Radeon HD 7850 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7970 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7990 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit

Radeon 200 series

AMD Radeon R9 280 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon R9 280X - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon R9 285 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 290X - 4 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit

Radeon 300 series

AMD Radeon R9 370 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 380 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 390 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit
AMD Radeon R9 390X - 8 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit

Radeon 400 series

AMD Radeon RX 460 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
AMD Radeon RX 470 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 480 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

Radeon 500 series

AMD Radeon RX 560 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
AMD Radeon RX 570 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 580 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 590 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

Radeon RX 5000 series

AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit

AMD... forgotten
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>>102439594
Vegans?
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>>102439561
>>102439564
lol its doa
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Can you even buy a decent mobo for under $250. Shit sucks universally
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>>102439594
what do you get out of spamming
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>>102439585
It's so Areejoever bros...
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>>102439654
5 cents per (you)
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>>102439476
>oem-blower-used
anon, why are you trying to burn down the other anon's house
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>>102439476
>you can get a 3070 for the same price here
Yeah but used
For that price I can buy a 6600 brand new
https://www.pccomponentes.com/withtech-amd-radeon-rx-6600-8gb-gddr6
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>>102439594
>>102439644
>>102439712
>AMD

Why would you NOT go for Nvidia?
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Is a 650w power supply enough for an Rtx 3080?
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Retard here, this came with my case, but it's detached. Once I plug it into the motherboard, what do I do with the cylindrical thingy? I just leave it there to hang?
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>>102439769
The cylindrical thingy is the speaker
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>>102439740
I was going to, then I saw that the 3060 has the same performance but costs 100 bucks more
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>>102439789
I know, but do I just leave it there hanging? Or is it supposed to be attached somewhere?
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>>102439850
speakers make sounds
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>>102439644
I can. Can you?
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>>102439866
I guess I'm not explaining properly. I plugin in the connector to the motherboard's speaker head, after that the cylinder (i.e. the speaker) is just left hanging. Is there an issue with that? Is there an issue if other cables are touching it?
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>>102439950
Don't forget to cable manage it
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>>102439850
Yes, you leave it hanging. Historically, that speaker was much larger and sat at the front of the case and was used for more than just motherboard post beeps.
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>>102439982
Thank you.
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>>102438864
I see. I just had these 2x 8GB ones and wanted to try to get some benefits.
I will get at some point another 2 of the new ones I got to match them.
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Is this decent
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>>102440069
maybe, all the cheaper gpus are pretty ass at the moment. Like the upcoming ps5 pro would be much stronger than 4060
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>>102440069
could be better and or cheaper
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>>102436444
Third world OP again
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>>102440094
Well I'm poor and I don't play on consoles for various reasons so it is what it is
>>102440106
Mhhhh how so
I guess I can cut off the case for some extra money
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>>102440138
you could look at used market
a used 3080 might be good, then 50xx gpus come out in few months and people sell their 40xx gpus
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>>102437336
>cpu
8088
>gpu
r300
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>>102440138
>Well I'm poor
Stick to am4 then
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>>102440069
Why wouldn't you go for a 7600?
Beats or ties it in most games despite being 10-15% cheaper
I can't imagine you're gonna do much raytracing
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>>102437632
no
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>>102440202
dlss and framegen are obviously much better on nvidia
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>>102440202
Well because my trusted PC component website has it at like 3% cheaper
And my options are limited because most online shops don't ship to the island I live on
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>>102440236
>Well because my trusted PC component website has it at like 3% cheaper
fair enough then
always hard to judge lists like that when you're restricted on where you can order shit from
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>>102440221
>dlss and framegen
gag
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I come here so you can laugh at me and because I guess it's sort of related
I took apart some laptop with just an iGPU (7840U) and decided to use TCPM 7125
Application was just as difficult as I thought it would be, but temps were sort of going when doing a few cycles
Today I open up the laptop and the screen is showing screen colors completely inverted, I'm freaking the fuck out. Restarted it and it's just "fine".
Should I open up the thing, clean it (this thing is apparently very messy to take out) and try again? Maybe with a little bit more coverage? Did I get memed?
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>>102440281
Please stop giving people shit pc building advice.
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>>102440282
TPCM, not TCPM*
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I never noticed, but is it normal for a ryzen 5900x to idle on windows at 50W?
I can't get this thing to drop under 50C on idle. I'm wondering if it's because of the paste or some bullshit background application that's messing it all up. Or some BIOS setting.
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>>102440094
>the upcoming ps5 pro would be much stronger than 4060
that's just marketing cringe, not reality. the ps5 pro will not be drawing enough power to outperform a 4060 in a pc
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>>102440290
>get a worse part for more money so you can have fake frames
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>>102440321
Yes, insneedity fabric is an atrocity for idle power.
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>>102440386
AMD literally went "our strategy for upscaling was a complete failure and now we're gonna copy what nvidia did 6 years ago, intel did 3 years ago and what ps5 pro is doing"'

So yeah, enjoy your failure of a gpu.
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>>102440371
its 7700XT tier
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>>102440401
>and what ps5 pro is doing
retard, ps5 is doing FSR4
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>>102440461
does your gpu do fsr4
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>>102440474
7900, yeah, it will
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>>102440474
No, my gpu only does real frames
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>>102440069
>>102440186
I did it for socket AM4
Add a 20 bucks liquid cooler with one fan, a 50 bucks 650W battery and for 750 eurodollars this would be the new pc

For comparison, this is what I'm running with as of now >>102439309
The reason I decided to buy brand new instead of upgrading is because my brother also wants a gaming pc and I was thinking I could give him my current one for the time being.
It can run even stuff like elden ring or cyberpunk if you accept mediocre framerates and the crash every now and then

I guess I should buy a monitor too. 4K is unnecessary since I'm not going to run shit in 4k with a 4060 I suppose.
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>>102436656
could be between 7900 xt and xtx
just look at 7800xt vs 7900 gre vs 6950xt
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>>102440485
intel and nvidia both require specific hardware features to do their advanced ml based upscaling or fg

like while you can use intels upscalers on amd, the best one only works on intel gpus
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>>102436769
>size over speed ram
>samsung ssd
you failed
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>>102440413
Only going by architecture and CU count. It will choke on power limits and CPU/memory bottlenecks.
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The last two Nvidia announcements were on a Tuesday and Thursday of the 4th week in September. Wednesday is in between those dates and since this year was a leap year, I calculate they’ll announce today.
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Day 531 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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How much will the 5000s cost at launch?
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>>102440674
"You vill buy gimped low-vram GPUs so you're forced upgrade next generation and can't do anything productive and you VILL like it" - Jensen
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>>102440720
5090 2k€ +
5080 1.3k €

They could, in theory, do a 30xx and announce really good price point but with the tsmc dominance, intel floundering and AI paying up the ass for nvidia gpus theres no real reason for prices going down.
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Are there any richfags here that play games with a Threadripper?
How is it?
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>>102440741
Ok but what about 5070 and 5060
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>>102440595
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gotta wait 10 days to buy cooler and psu ;-;
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>>102440756
they're horribly cut down versions of the full chip.
5060 is gonna have about 10% of the cores of 5090 so it's gonna be cheap but its not gonna perform well.
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Got a case choice between Zalman Z10 and a Aerocool Dryft and its hard to find any reviews and whatnot, is there any real difference to be found between those case dimensions or am I splitting hairs here?
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Welp, I gave up trying to get a Pro w5700 or 2060 for $100. I just snagged a 1080 for $70 though. Feels good man.
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>>102440763
What do you need so many cores for :0
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>new parts coming tomorrow/friday
>need to take out graphics card from old PC so it can be ready to put into new one
>old PC was a prebuilt with a mounting bracket on the end of graphics card
>no idea how to remove it
>unscrewed 2 screws on graphics card side of the part that connects it to the drive rack box of case
>cant pull it up because it seems to be locked into these 4 little circular things. they are in the bottom of 2 holes like an 8 shape with a narrow center, they can jiggle upwards but not make it to the top holes where I think they'll be loose enough to maybe remove it
>cant pull it outward because graphics card in the way
wtf do i do
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Bump anyone? Are SSD m.2 boxes good? Should ai cut my loses and get a new SATA SSD instead?
>>102438756
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>>102441019
i dont i just wanted it
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>>102441053
top view where i removed 2 screws
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>>102440770
No shit, but how much do you think they will cost
I have never bought at launch before
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>>102441053
>>102441070
nevermind! i figured it out.
i just needed a lot of force to pop it up
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>>102441127
they might not even launch in 6 months so hard to speculate at this point
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any arrow lake waitbros?
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>>102440999
They're budget cases; unlikely you're going to put 700W worth of components in there so the thermal performance difference will be marginal.
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>>102440763
>Engineering sample
56 core? Nice.
>>102441065
Based. I want to get a Threadripper for the same reason. I have a matched pair of really old Xeons kicking around I never played with too.
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>>102441399
i wanted a threadripper but even with a full setup of used hw it costs more check out this thread for the xeon engineering samples
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/asus-pro-ws-w790e-sage-se-intel-xeon-sapphire-rapids-sp-es-works-it.41306/

theres a list of compatible mobos here only look at asrock/asus afaik the gigabyte ones dont support bios downgrading so will block chips with updates https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zbyTDnVcROr43S5d7mfQnLZwZpQ1DEQ2UGjU5qlWcqY/edit?usp=sharing

these things are stupid cheap https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134899171071
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How shit is this, bros?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sYbxyg

Moving to canada soon and while I feel somewhat safe about bringing GPU/Storage, Mobo/CPU seems like a disaster and the PSU needs a replacement anyway.
Is it worth the extra like 60 bucks to get 7600x and a budget cooler over just OC'ing the 7600 a bit (if that's even needed for 1080p60)?
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>>102440737
NEVER
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>>102436444
>RTX 3060 12gb
>Ryzen 7 3700x
>64gb DDR4 3200mhz
>Asus B540M motherboard
>Seasonic focus 750 watt
>Western digital black 1tb m. 2 SSD (BOOT DISK)
>1 and 2TB Western digital blue HDD (OTHER STORAGE)

for 1080p gaming and general computing tasks, did I do good Bros?
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>>102441621
Naturally you'll want to talk with your lawyer/agency first but it'd probably be way cheaper to build in the US and take it with you.
Per: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/new-immigrants/prepare-life-canada/border-entry/bringing-goods.html
>You don’t have to pay duty on:
>hobby tools and other hobby items
>appliances, such as a stove or refrigerator

>Mobo/CPU seems like a disaster
Shouldn't be a problem if you ship it in the case. The components most at risk of damage are the GPU and CPU cooler. Put them back in their box (or /a/ box if you trashed it) or buy some of those expanding foam bags.

>Is it worth the extra like 60 bucks to get 7600x...
Not for performance reasons. I would recommend an aftermarket cooler for any CPU if you can afford it. Even the cheapest tower models are way quieter than stock.

As for the build, it looks fine enough. Maybe a bit CPU-heavy but that won't hurt anything. Again, if you're in the US your dollar would go a lot further because Canada's PC prices are insane.
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>>102441289
Alright, thanks
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Is there a way to check whether a PSU is properly functioning without plugging in other components? I've found an Corsair CX 750 in my basement, the thing hasn't been powered on for about 7 years and I'd like to use it in a secondary PC I'm building.
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>>102441848
I'm currently in EU and prices are less drastic than US. I was considering stopping by US & then importing it, but I'm fairly sure that'd count as being "on the way" and fall under the 13% import duties.
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Looking to grab a GPU that has real raw power as it's real cores have where it's not rigged or faked with trickeries just like muh emotional cores in cpus' or nvidia AI or RTX slop shit.

is 1080 ti is stilt he best in this regard?
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>>102441707
You did okay but why the fuck are you using a resolution from 2006?
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>>102441947
6950xt
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>>102441949
retard
>>102441947
upscaling is here to stay, cope
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>>102441955
>6950xt
it's almost $1000 here wtf
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>>102441947
you're gimping yourself with that retarded thinking because the most powerful GPUs available right now also have upscaling and famegen available as options (option means to can turn it off)
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>>102441931
>EU
Ah alright. Probably a wash then.

>I was considering stopping by US & then importing it, but I'm fairly sure that'd count as being "on the way" and fall under the 13% import duties.
An interesting proposition. Those components would be ~$560+tax in the US so it'd actually still be cheaper. Plus you might not even get charged if you assembled everything before crossing over - "no officer I built that last year, honest".
Frankly, however, that's a lot of hassle to save like $100 but I'm in favour of anything that involves stiffing the Canadian government.
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Dumb question:
Can I update the BIOS directly to the last version?
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>>102442075
Yeah, BIOS aren't patched, they're flashed whole. You can also flash a previous version.
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>>102441983
>State budget and COUNTRY
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>>102442075
In my case, I "had to" update in multiple steps
Maybe it would have worked in one go but it strongly suggested doing it in steps so I did it
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My monitor isn't displaying anyhting
The writing on my graphic card is illuminated so I don't think it's a power problem, but the fan isn't starting

Could it be the motherboard's connection to the graphic card? I've tried taking it out and putting it back in

How do you diagnosticate the issues with your PC?
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>>102442075
>>102442182
Zanks,
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>>102437110

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/XsDVsh

made some changes, dont really care about the overprices board.
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>>102442326
forgot to change the motherboard to the ASRock B650 Steel Legend
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>>102441977
>I am a proud 1080pcuck
lmao
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>>102442345
fixed

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tKfcdH
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Question
What's considered unsafe in terms of GPU overclocking (nvidia)?
If you just fuck around within the power limit, how the original VBIOS is setup and such, do you still have room to permanently damage the GPU? Or will it crash before it ever gets there?
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>>102442425
That PSU is not sized for your case, get an ATX one.
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>>102442453
will do. Thank you
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>>102442453
oh, i forgot to change the psu. Im retarded

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/NVMQFs
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>>102437911
Probably one of those weird SoC boards that china likes making.
You shouldn't need much for what you want to do.

>>102438756
>>102441058
No pcie slots for a m.2>pcie board? You just have to be careful about getting chinked into something that takes sata m.2 instead of nvme variants, or getting one with a bunch of m.2 slots but you can only use one because your MB doesn't have bifurication.
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>>102436524
>5070 12gb DDR7
>5060 8gb DDR7
>5050 8gb DDR6
>no high end AMD
jej
rdna 3 and lovelace really were the last of the golden age
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what would be the direct equivalent to 27'' 1440p on 4k?
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>>102441947
1080 Ti is finished, a $200 4060 using 120W beats it
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>>102442566
around 40 inches going off PPI
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>>102442590
aren't they rigged with (((extra stuff))) on hardware/firmware level
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any guesses when the 5500x3D comes out? when do AMD usually release stuff?
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Thinking about getting this monitor when it comes back in stock. Good/bad?

https://shop.asus.com/us/90lm0a20-b01ab0-rog-swift-oled-pg27aqdp.htm
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>>102442640
aliexpress 5700x3d's with the full 8-cores are already available for dirt cheap anon
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>>102442433
there is no such thing as unsafe overclocking on nvidia without hardware mods, unless you have a 4090 and are trying to run 500W through the 12vhpwr connector i guess
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>>102441911
there are dedicated psu testers you can buy
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>>102442703
I see, thanks
Another thing, anything to reliably test memory overclocks on these GPUs? Benchmarks like superposition are somewhat inconsistent on the scores and such
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>>102442266
>How do you diagnosticate the issues with your PC?
most boards have diagnostic leds that light up and some have 7-segment displays that displays where its at during the boot process
the most common culprit is usually an outdated bios that cant recognise your cpu or ram, or defective ram and very rarely a defective cpu
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>>102442733
use 3dmark to check scores or games to check for performance regressions, and occt's gpu vram test to check for errors
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Anons , what are 'prism' fans. Are they better than your regular 120mm?
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>>102442686
as much as I buy chinashit I'm not sure about no warranty for just 2 cores
if the 5500x3D is a stupid price I'll consider it
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>>102442831
>>102442831
>>102442831
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>>102442837
>1080p 4070 Super thread
no thanks
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>>102442784
many thanks
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>>102436910
What are you talking about?



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