Hyperborean Editionprev: >>102392056>Keyboard recommendation template:https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V (embed)(Helps also to mention if you're open to soldering or not)>Find vendorshttps://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-listhttps://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you are China-savvy)>Layouts and switcheshttps://compare.splitkb.comhttps://keyboard-design.comhttps://www.theremingoat.comhttps://www.switchesdb.com>Practice typinghttps://monkeytype.comhttps://www.keybr.comhttps://thetypingcat.comhttps://play.typeracer.com>What does ______ do to a keyboard's soundhttps://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet by a twitch streamer)>What's the deal with backlighting?https://rentry.org/mkg_backlight (WIP, suggestions/corrections welcome)>Should I buy silent switches for my first mechanical keyboard?no>Should I buy Topre?If you are willing to pay a lot of money and are fine with a tactile membrane type feel then yes. If you are looking for traditional mechanical keyboard typing feel then you should avoid them>What's the deal with IBM keyboards?They were cool because they were cheap and unique but they are now hoarded and shilled by scalpers. They are worth it if you can score them cheap off of ebay or e-waste recycling sites. Unicomp and modelfkeyboards make new ones but the latter's creator is a fag
Bump out of arrogance
>>102440466I just realized that the reason this board is called "Adam" and the id number "001" is an Evangelion reference. Based.
>>102440966is that fucking lego?
>>102440966The switches they make are called the S2 Engine as well. https://kbdcraft.store/products/switch-s2
>>102440988Yes, it is, surprisingly well put together and resilient as well.>>102441144I know, too bad their not that great, I've been meaning to buy spares but I wouldn't build a new board with them. Nice starting switches though.
what are you typing on today, /mkg/?
>>102442399crappy gmk67 with zeal clickiez and gmk yuri keycaps
>>102442399hhkb
>>102442730>zeal clickiez>gmk yuri
>>102442399Horribly printed handwired dactyl with gateron g pro silvers and chinese matcha keycaps set
>>102440966a lego keyboard hahahahhahahaha
>>102442399Likely gonna build a few more for myself once I get the upgrade for my printer in.
is it the worst keyboard layout of all time
>>102445093What's wrong with a lego keyboard? It's cool and its even cooler that it works and its even cooler that you can just display it if you don't want to use it.
>>102447116a ligoooo kiboard hahhahahahahah
>>102447174Wtf is this thing I'm even looking at?
>>102440466How good (or bad) are red dragon switches other than being a really weird communist china reference?
>>102440466I don't get why people like the old molded plastic grey/flesh color keyboards. The kind of old keyboards I use to love were the wooden ones, same with computers, plastic molded computers are actually very nostalgic for me because I grew up with them but I prefer today's aesthetic more now.
>>102446983what's wrong with it? other than the small backspace
>>102447189German(?) POS keyboard
>>102441144>N Bomb stabilizers
Picked this thing up for cheap on ebay some days back and it's basically new old stock, or very lightly used. Orange Alps are pretty nice, pretty stoked about it.It's a bit odd having the homing bumps be on D and K, and for the Caps Lock to actually lock when pressed. I've only ever seen that on this PC Engine board I had from a while back.>>102447265Some older vintage boards had more colorful designs. I've heard from some that back in the day beige or gray was more "in style", but if you look at the Space Cadet board it had darker grey and vibrant blue keycaps, with all sorts of funky symbols on them. Despite being rather rare it's got a ton of modern Cherry mount keycap sets being made in its style.There were some all black or black + dolch boards as well, which look quite nice, like some models of Dell AT101. Some Model Ms too, some with the little red nip as well. Speaking of Apple boards though, I have seen some people mount their older boards with ruined or bad shape chassis into custom wooden ones, and they looked quite nice as well.
>>102440466>Hyperborean EditionIn a world where the mouse was never popular, yeah. I regret buying one.
>>102442399just finished lubing, filming, and spring swapping enough mx brown hyperglides to solder into my brutal v2 1800. I have other boards with browns or brown clones and this board couldn't be more different. My typface monospace with stock browns is a top-mount with steel internal weights—it sounds cold, metallic, and loud—this board sounds fuzzy and warm and muted, like it's stuffed with carpet. steel weights vs zinc, top mount vs silicone gasket, keykobo abs vs shenpo pbt, probably different internal volume as well... I don't know what the exact reason is. But this board is much easier on the hands and the ears, if not as satisfyingly clacky and deep. I like that there's such clear contrast between them.Maybe I'll get a picture later, although it looks the same as it did when it had Jwick Taros. I didn't like those switches, too tactile. Nothing beats browns
>>102448522Make sure to force break mod if your keyboard sounds too metallic. Just tape over the screw hole areas where top/bottom case meets. Least intrusive mod that helps a lot.
>>102448615It's not that kind of ping. I've had case ping and I know how to diagnose it/deal with it.
>>102447299hhkb has a perfectly cromulent backspace position and the corny ISO enter key is sucking up valuable real estate hhkb's abominated brother
I need a stepped Capslock key with center stem for Cherry profile. Where the HECK do I buy just a single capslock key?
I want a RAMA M60. Anyone know of other FAT cases?
>>102449703no picture of the stem so no promises, but a quick search yielded this: https://techkeys.us/products/center-stem-stepped-capslockI usually only see them with offset stems like picrel though, so may be hard to find other options.
>>102442399Geonworks F1-88 with MX Blacks on default alu plate with GMK Black Snail + Desko accent caps
>>102440466I came for the guy who owns a gun shopSad face
>>102449796GHS JEM does have big fat bezels if you are looking for those. Standard edition available on their site: https://www.gonehacking.studio/products/ghs-jem-standard-edition-pre-order?variant=42892424872135
>>102450237damn, 65% is the worst layout tho
>>102449796bbox60
>>102449812center stem is indeed what I need. unbelievable these things are so rare. Your link is likely better than the etsy store I found since it specifically mentions center stem. I suppose I'll just get both and see what happens. My only other thought is to mod my own stem into an existing stepped/notched capslock. Anyone got any experience seating new stems to existing keycaps?
>>102449703https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002558172648.html
>>102450612Not him, I vaguely remember seeing a video of someone modding one of those offset stem stepped keys by cutting the mount off/out and either regluing/melting it to reattach, or transplanting a mount from another key after shifting it over to the right spot.I do have to admit, it is a bit annoying how people don't make center stem stepped keys, considering a lot of boards are hotswap and that's usually where the switch will be on them. I remember being bummed out when I first got a keycap set some time ago with a stepped caps lock keycap and then it didn't fit for the board I had.
>>102450612>unbelievable these things are so rareI've got 5 stepped capslock keys from various sets, and every single one is offset stem.So yeah, it's just not a normal keycap that is being produced.
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>>102446983>>102448945>take the perfectly optimised ISO layout>make it dainty as a 65%>goatse it with arrow keysThis is why I reccomend JDL or Realforce for Topre>>102448350You just have a puny desk. What variant of 122?
How come boomers love these things?
Does anybody make clones of sun microsystems keyboards? My last one has died, and I feel hollow without it..
>>102449796>>102450237>>102450421>shrink your keyboard down to 60% to save space>proceed to buy cases for the sole purpose of having big bezels or anglesYou people perplex me. Might as well just for a full layout and go all in on bezel.>>102452754The only clones are rubberdomes unfortunately. Full sized keyboards with an XT left row are fairly unique to Microsystems keyboards. You are better off finding another one second hand or getting a switch plate cut of the layout using keyboard layout editor json export function and using the cut plate to hand wire some keys to a QMK flashed microcontroller.
>>102452864>go for a full layout*
>>102452754Hunt around ebay, maybe put up a WTB ad on deskthority or something.
>>102452754Handwire it.
I can't believe I got this Brutal v2 for $200. To the anon who posted when Cannonkeys had that flash sale, if you're still hanging around, thank you. This board sounds and feels fantastic.
>>102452402>You just have a puny desk. What variant of 122?My shoulders also aren't particularly wide, so that may be another factor. It's a generic rubber dome+membrane 122 clone for a terminal of some kind.
>>102452620those are the wrong ones.
>>102453465Wait...rubbedome? Do you have pics?
>>102453934Turns out I own the exact keyboard in this photo, scuff marks and all.https://deskthority.net/wiki/images/1/18/UNICOMP_LYNX_301-5522-01.jpg
>>102454026Holy shit I didnt know this existed. Might have to grab one kek
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>>102455170My blind ass thought those were crocs or sandles from the thumbnail
i just ordered the zsa voyager what am i in for?
>>102447242bump
>>102447242>>102456073They are Outemu clones with harder plastic shells from what I am aware of. You are probably better off getting Outemu switches instead which are OK for the most part.
>just a 122 without the F-key row>costs the same as a rent down paymentWhy the fuck is this thing so expensive?
>>102447174>Happy-hour key
looks like Wobkey is ripping off the neo80 next, ball catch and all. get ready to hear noobs asking "should I buy a Crush80"
>>102456871Where did you find this?
what is the closest thing to wired version of mx mechanical and mx master 3s
>>102442399Model F77, my recent-ish usual.
>>102456167Okay, thanks for responding.
>>102442399pic related, its okay... I don't really think about it when I'm using it which means its good as far as I'm concerned. If I'm thinking of a keyboard while I'm typing and it isn't about the layout, that's a bad sign.
>>102457922What switch does it use? I cannot find any info other than "clicky" / "tactile" / "linear" but no exact switch specification
*enters le premises*>comfy soft keys that dont hurt your fingers>comfy sound>cheap, costs 15 dollars a pop brand new>easy to take apart and clean>full size KB made for real men>tasteful masculine colors>tried and true membrane
>>102457644drop
>>102458364>comfy soft keys that dont hurt your fingersAre you a pussy or something?>comfy soundMotherfucker it does not sound like anything>cheap, costs 15 dollars a pop brand newPoorfag>tasteful masculine colorsYou mean lack thereof?>tried and true membraneThe whole point about membrane is being cheap to make en masse. Thats it. That is why it is so ubiquitous.Get your contrarian ass out of here or buy a Topre like a real rubber autist.
what spring length and weight are you guys into?
>>102440466Is it work buying a cherry mx switch tester or nah?
>>102455170>adjustable keywell with topre switches>need to cut and bend bunch of steel for this buildCool shit is always fussy as fuck. I wonder if you can get away with nylon printed parts doing this or similar design.
>>102442399FIlco majestouch 3
>>102446668Redpill me on these types of keyboards. Why are they so good? Why do you use them? I need to know.
>>102459881No. Just go to microcenter or best buy and type on display boards. Either way switch testers won't ever let you understand how it truly feels or sounds on a keyboard.
>>102460324tl;dr - they're just very comfortable to type on.It's split so you can adjust each half however you find comfortable. The columnar staggering actually follows the shape of your fingers. The pinky column is shifted down enough that I can hit the p and q keys comfortably with my pinky, which I couldn't do even on an ergodox. The columns being curved reduces how much your finger has to move between rows. The thumb cluster angling downward like that means you're not moving your thumb sideways to hit those keys. It's good enough that I'm not tempted to switch to any other kind of board to be honest.
>>102460444That resin print looks nice a fuck, did you sand it down afterwards or do you just have a really nice printer?
>>1024603244 words: open source adjustable ergonomics
>>102459571TX 22mm 90g springs.
>>102460457that's not resin.>>102460444still wish you made a full 1u version
>>102460497>that's not resin.Jizz?
>>1024595714mm length with 75g operating / 90g-100g bottom out
>>102460514Yes
>>102460457FDM printed actually, out of fillamentum wizard's voodoo. I don't sand any of my prints, and yea I do have a nice printer.>>102460497>still wish you made a full 1u versionIt becomes all 1u if you remove the outermost column. But if you mean a 5x7 with all 1u keys then that would require redesigning the PCB.
>just old ugly white boomers and geeky looking asian zoomers are in this hobbyWhere the fuck are the femboys and qt girls.
I know it's not mechanical keyboard, but this one I need to take with me.I am Looking for a portable BT keyboard for android that I can fold. Should be 65% because I need arrow keys. Doesnt need a trackpad like in pic related.What's a good option?
>>102460839Those are literally dime a dozen. Just start from here and look at similar products.https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804014612304.html
>>102460884https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804847665303.html
>>102460753They use ducky 60% boards>how do you kno-I have known atleast 3 first hand that use them. It is also why I have a very low view of 60% keyboards.
>>102458260browns i think
>>102460884Yeah, I know theyre cheap, I'm not asking for cheap ones. I'm asking for good ones. Ones that dont fall apart after a week or so.
>>102461183There's not a single foldable "good" keyboard. That's an oxymoron when a folding joint is literally a point of failure that wouldn't be in good boards.
>>102460753>thinking women have hobbiesAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>102460962I don't know how people can just buy a mechanical keyboard, pre-assembled, to me the fun is sourcing the parts, keycaps, and board and assembling it all together.
>>102461402>I don't know how people can just buy a mechanical keyboard, pre-assembled, to me the fun is sourcing the parts, keycaps, and board and assembling it all together.I can only speculate, but if my experience is anything to go by I have an educated guess that a lot of it comes down to the vast majority of femboys being mentally ill or insecure. They want a gaymer "custom" keyboard which of course means 60% as that is what all the influencers use and they go with whatever matches their RGB PC setup so if they ever webcam or take thigh/nude pics it is all in theme. But because they do not have the patience or attention span to make one they buy it pre-built instead to fullfill their instantaneous dopamine habits to further distract themselves from their social anxiety and dysphoria. You can only date and fuck so many femboys or effeminate twinks without going insane or becoming straight. At least women just cant be assed with DIY in general as an excuse, you do not need to understand them they just are. But twinkies and femies share your chromosomes, how the fuck they get to that point is beyond me.
Speaking of Ducky, how good are their rubber keycaps? I've been thinking about picking some up, but I'd like to know if the transparent letters are rubber too or are they just plastic? I know that the base of the keycap is ABS.
>>102461402I think for newbies it's to see if they like mechanicals at all. Then there is the camp of people that are looking for a better typing experience but would rather purchase something that just werks out of the box. Different strokes.
>>102455170>>102460112Is that a topre keywell? Or just some concept
>>102463939It is topre, but it's a long dead project.
>>102462141To be fair theres not much of a DIY-aspect in most so called "custom" keyboards. More often than not you are buying fabricated cases, pcbs and components and just assemble them yourself. I doubt many of you design and build your own cases and your own pcbs, and if theres a 100 people on this planet who would go down diy lithography route for custom keyboard MCU, i'll eat my own hat. My personal maximum effort keeb would be my own pcb design, that i'll send to some service to make, cause i don't think ironing fr4 plates in your garage is fun in the first place.
>>102459571for tactiles I like the short ones, 14 or 15mm. if they're too long they feel too tactile at the top.for linears 16mm or longer is good, too short and the inconsistency feels strange.either way, 62g or heavier. 80 might be pushing it.
>>102461402some people just feel helpless all the time and assume anything they don't already know how to do is impossible
>>102464781Indeed, and some pre-assembled keebs can cost more than 600€? WTF??
>>102460753women are into splits and small boards and cute keycaps. and they don't do 4chan
Are keychron q max still good buys in 2004 + 20 ?
>>102466153depends on the layout. some are more competitive than others
Clack
Why aren't there more 50% keyboards?
>>102458364>Comfy keys that dont hurt your fingersGet worn out in like 2 yearsOne drop of water kills the whole thingOne breeze and it flies away
After having three consecutive mechanical keyboards break some key mechanism on me in two years, I ended up getting some cheap chink membrane model m imitation that has served me for tree years now and still looking mint.Mechanical keyboards are the gaming chairs of keyboards.
>>102467614Actually, it's German. The Perixx PERIBOARD-106M.
>>102467081>ortho>photo op matching orange monster energy drink with keycaps for social media points >knob>"why dont we have this obscure and unnecessary size layout guysss???"
>>102467614>After having three consecutive mechanical keyboards break some key mechanism on me in two yearsWtf have you been buying? I once used a cherry blue gaymer test display keyboard for 8 years and only stopped because I switched out to a different one.>I ended up getting some cheap chink membrane model m imitation that has served me for tree years now and still looking mint.Oh ok it is membrane bait, nevermind.
>>102467773It's the optimal layout
>>102455577Same
>>102467821>It's the optimal layoutNot even close.
>make meme key>thread locked due to fake news
>>102467614the only useful info you had to share with us was the name of the three boards that failed and you chose not to give us that info
It's amazing how much better my board is after I gave up on trying to enjoy heavy tactiles and just put in some MX browns
>>102468427The only switches you will ever need are the default Cherry MX range and Kailh Navy or Jades. Everything else is derivative.
beginner here. dumb question but why are cherry mx switches so much more expensive than something like gaterons for example. most people I have seen say stuff from gateron is better in general but they are like 1/3 of the price of cherry mx. is it hipster-ism on part of the gaterons or just straight up usual german mark up on the cherry's?
>>102469586Cherry has always been mediocre at best, and unironically the chink switches are better than them nowadays.
>>102469586Cherry is basically paying extra to have the OG brand for the sake of it. They are decent switches but you can get away with cheaper. Gaterons were one of the first companies to make the Cherry MX switch line on a massive scale back in the day and a lot of mid 2000 off brand mechanical keyboards used them. They used to be far more low quality but are now half decent for their price. Honestly I would shill Kailh switches any day.
Epomaker EP84 Pro or Keychron K2 Pro?
>>102470075I would go with the Epomaker EP84 Pro
>>102470093Why?
>>102470427Better value for money
>>102468454Tfw this is true...I can never run from the Cherry MX series as I both enjoy the Blacks and the Browns albeit, swapped to a better spring.
>>102469889Is there a MX Black Kailh equivalent?
can't solder
>>102471623This. No matter how much I heat the PCP the solder wont fucking melt into place
>>102471623>>102471763Just buy practice boards and look up soldering tutorials, if I could figure out how to do it in high school, you guys can do it now.
>>102467081>matching colour monster I like your vision
>>102472024Nice
>>102472024>>102472077What do the keyboards inside those model vehilces look like though?
>>102471623it's very easy, just watch a few youtube videos about it
>>102466083Can confirm. Recently sold my keebio iris to some indian girl on fb marketplace.
>>102464152Most people like some variety of normal keyboard and it just doesn't yield much benefit to DIY that stuff. Why would anyone make their own TKL pcb? Why would anyone make their own 65% case instead of buying one—assuming they are not looking for something niche/experimental—?
Shipping cost included in tax is some bs.
Good place to order dactyl boards?
>>102476175Send me an email to dactylman at protonmail.com
>>102463943Looking at some pages, is it a massive pain in the ass to make a topre pcb compared to the usual MX kind? I really don't have any knowledge with true DIY like that, so I'm wondering if that's partially why
>>102477372It is more involved than a regular contact based switch yea. I'm not sure how compatible QMK is with electro-capacitive switches these days.
We need one more noob to come in and get interested in buying a keyboard, they bump the threads lots. I'm starting to become happy with my boards, there's less to talk about
anything safe I can spray inside my piece of shit logitech's romer linear switchesa couple of keys only work intermittently, it's otherwise clean and never spilled anything or used liquids to clean it
>>102479128The switches are dying. Nothing you can do except replace the specific switch.
Love you /mkg/Greetings from /k/
>>102479226Based music tastes
>>102479155already have to use keyboard chatter blocker to make it usableguess it's overshould've bought crate of $4 keyboards instead of nulogitech's turd
>>102479246Thanks anonI'm also into Fela Kuti, Steely Dan, Tom Petty, Gojira, and Britney Spears
>>102479501what's the keyboard? Nice taste in guns too
>>102452620The SKCM are nice switches if they're in good condition, though overhyped for sure. The clicky and tactile ones sound pretty nice and full due to the mechanism in them, only amplified by the big empty cases they're typically in.
>>102479816Bought it about a year and a half ago. Switched all the keys to Boba U4 Silents https://www.yunzii.com/products/yunzii-keynovo-if98-hot-swappable-gasket-mounted-mechanical-keyboard
Is ergodox the entry level split keeb?
>>102460709Do you ship to Canada?? Would you give CDN discount because the dallor is dogshit rn
>>102480137it's entry level in that it's a good starting point but at the same time it is high quality enough to be your last keyboard. Check ebay, you can find practically new ones for 250.
>>102456072Something too small for me
>>102480191I'm in milkbagland myself so yes. I can also take payment in CAD.
>>102480342Drop ur email I will get deets there. I go from logishit to dactyl in 1 jump
30yo 2-finger hunt & peck master here (120-130 wpm normally, over 160 repeating simple pangrams) and I've been using mechanical keyboards for a few years, only now after briefly going back to a classico rubber dome dell board have i come to realize a big problem I have with these things. The key rows are all tilted around in, for me, completely random chaos for the sake of touch typists. I thought I was making typos because I was just getting old and that my nervous system was deteriorating or something, but no. I was typing FLAWLESSLY on the rubber dome, then back to random typos on the mech.Of course, I still love the feel of mechanical switches, rubber dome feels a bit like pressing a bottlecap down into a jar of peanut butter compared to mech, so I'm not going back just to solve my typos issue. So instead I've ordered a custom set of keycaps (over $100, jesus) which are just a standard full sized layout except in DSA, and I've removed all forms of home guidance on the numpad and on the F and J keys since I do not rely on them at all. Pretty damn excited, my Q6 Max is about to feel so good to use, it's going to feel like how typing on a mech SHOULD have felt for me since i first used one years ago, but never did.P.S here's what going 160wpm with two finger hunt & peck looks like... If you ever wondered if it was even possible.Nothing complex, just doing "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog." repeatedly.https://files.catbox.moe/v7qyh5.mp4And this viseo is on a XDA or perhaps OEM profile, not sure which. Basically a worst case for me. I look forward to going back to mindlessly sliding my fingers across a uniform keyboard surface again and not randomly crashing into raised and tilted keys triggering typos. Bonus without any home guidance the keyboard will be practically useless to a touch typist without modifications if stolen.
>>102480137Any column staggered split design is pretty good these days, doubt there are any truly atrocious ones. I've heard people criticizing its thumb cluster, but people criticize anything these days.
>>102480367Right here bro >>102476207
>>102480412two finger style is underrated
Are the Melody/YMCK 96 still the only (widely available) options for this layout? I'm getting tired of my 75% + numpad setup
Using my moonlander again. The more I use it next to my dactyl the more I dislike how they handled some aspects of it. They really should have included the tenting puck to add more value to the device. It just feels lazy to have the attachment slot there but no tripod adapter or just building it right into the device.I also feel a bit disappointed with the legs that it came with. They could use better grips and kind of suck without a mat. While all of this can be modified 4 years later it feels kind of mind numbing factoring in the price for the fucking thing.
>>102480412That is probably the fastest two finger typing I've ever seen.
>>102480137It's pretty good but there's a lot you need to consider when using split>Use case>Will you be gaming>How big are you hands>Are you okay with layers>Are you fine not having F keys
>People complain that they can't reach all of the moonlander thumb cluster buttonsThat's unfortunate but not my problem
what is the difference between the rainy75/bridge75/sk75 they are all pretty much the same keyboard. which one should i get
What is luke smiths trackpoint+3button keyboard?
>>102482217>>Are you fine not having F keysYou can still include them>>102482732Based>>102482970Stay the fuck away from the Rainy75. But it is a toss up between SK75 and the Bridge75. Apparently the Bridge75 pro is meant to be quite good with its ball catch mechanism but that is more expensive.>>102483294Do you have better pics?
>>102483294Looks like a unicomp trackpoint.
Does anyone here do soarer's converters? I have been needing to get one or two.
>>102484100You can have a function button that triggers them on a one shot key press which switches the layer until you press another key. So tapping the f keys would be easy
>>102483294>>102484100>>102484124Thanks anons. Unicomp EnduraPro
>>102481894>>102482206The key lies in my pinky fingers and thumbs, especially the left pinky, I get all the location information I need from them which eliminates the hunt and just leaves how fast I can peck.
>120-150 usd >brown>ISO>80%>shitty razer black widows
Finally want to move on from my 13 year old Ducky DK 9008S w/ cherry browns. I like the old brown/black switches and dont care about whatever reddit meme switch you autists are obsessing over this month.Recommend a brand that uses good plastic material that wont have the top layer of the keys peel off after 10+ years.
>>102486473>I like the old brown/black switches and dont care about whatever reddit meme switch you autists are obsessing over this month.Those are the old gens. New gens are cherry mx range pilled.>Recommend a brand that uses good plastic material that wont have the top layer of the keys peel off after 10+ years.Any doubleshot PBT material keycap set you can score of Aliexpress or Taobao. Its all practically from the same clone manufacturers.
>>102486383k8 sounds good should i redeem?
ugh i hate researching mechanical keyboards i just want a good feeling keyboard
>>102486823Realforce
>>102486875Expensive and looks very basic. Anyway its the feeling im after so ill check them out
>>102486875>RealforceHA>>102486823What are your tastes anon? Its like trying to reccomend a car to somone who does not specifiy what kinda cars they like. But if you only care about feel you will need to clarify what kind of feel as there is like 3 primary typing feels all keyboards follow to some extreme with Linear, Tactile and Clicky.
my keychron feels the same as my old ass coolermaster masterkeysdo I have no taste or does it really not make that much difference
>>102486875>$200 and up>plastic bodyNo thank you, I'd be quite interested in trying Topre switches but not if I'm getting fleeced like that.
>>102487416No you have discovered something a lot of keyboard autists find out but seldom bring up. Modern mechanical keyboards are all derivatives of each other due to the nature of the switches they use. Only so much can be changed in an MX switch to make the typing experience feel different and just about every new switch can be summarised as "like X switch but with this Y feel from Z switch" and those switches they are compared to almost always ends up compared to the default Cherry MX switch range. If you use any keyboard using Cherry switches everything else will feel familiar. The only modern mechanical keyboards to not feel like MX are Topre, Unicomp buckling spring and Alps because they use a totally different design. It is why most anons who get into keyboards as an interest eventually start to collect old keyboards as they have literally 100s of different switches with different typing feels and quirks. Its the next frontier so to speak from all the samey 60% or meme ergo builds you get used to seeing. This is not even going into black pill territory with how older keyboards were built better and felt better to type as they were designed to not be mass produced towards a public consumer base. Shit like the beamspring keyboards are some of the first ever made and were made to last fucking forever while having as perfect typing feel as possible for mainframe engineers and programmers.
I've had a Keychron K1 SE for a bit longer than a year and I still find myself mistyping and missing keys often, especially when tired.Do the smaller, rounder keycaps of the K3 Pro somewhat help with this issue?I like the look and sound of the keyboard otherwise, and can never get back to tall clacky boards.
Is there a dude in europe where i can send in my modelm 122 key to get boltmodded? I think i can spend up to 40-70 dollars.
>>102487901I have a K5 pro low-profile since a week ago with the rounded keycaps and I mistype often too, I will be returning it
>>102488039I see. Have you tried any other low profile boards? I like the look and feel but don't like me having to double check most things I writer down when I'm tired.Funnily enough, I've had taller, regular-sized keyboards and I mistyped on them far more than I do on my low profile one. The only ones that I have no issues with mistiyping are the cheap office ones you can get for 15€ on amazon. Used them for years at work and home and had 0 issues.
>>102487993Cant you do that home with a screwdriver?
>>102467821>>102467081>F keys>No Numpad>No productivity
>>102488223No i dont have the tools, also its never been serviced since 1985
>>102488296>doesn't know how to touch type>doesn't have a numpad layer>thinks the Fn+numrow doesn't do F keysYou're never gonna make it like this, anon. Apply yourself.
>>102488159>>102387392Have not but the normal sized keycaps are a little bit better for lowering mistypesThe lofree flow lite seems good, more feminine design (I doubt girls/phags would be able to accept mistypes whilst working so their low-profiles must be fine) but I might try it when they release the hades switchesI'm considering that cherry stream keyboard just for its media buttons, but for now I'll go back to my microsoft 600 just like you I am too used to membranes office onesPost your updates if you ever have some
>>102484273Bumpo
Anything better than the Keychron V6 Max for the price(~$100)?Also as an incurable bottom-out-every-key-I-type kinda guy will the reds be fine? the "banana" are appealing but they seem to have a double typing problem which would make me go insane considering this'd be the most expensive keyboard I'd own so far
>>102490462>Anything better than the Keychron V6 Max for the price(~$100)?Depends, are you deadset on TKL? As for bottom out concerns I would go with MX black clones instead of reds if that is your style of typing as they have a heavier actuation force.
>>102485794Such a ugly fucking keyboard. Stuck in the stone age like a filthy fucking animalTo not use split means you are a disgusting animal that cannot peer into the future due to mental illness.
>>102490941>To not use split means you are a disgusting animal that cannot peer into the future due to mental illness.No it means you are past your prime and your hands are not strong or flexible enough to use a fucking keyboard old man
Do Keychron wireless keyboards (specifically the Q6 Max) have a battery bypass for when it's wired in? I would never use the wireless feature but the standard Q6 does not come with PBT keycaps, while the Max does for just $10 more so I was thinking of just getting the Max. I'd keep it wired all the time so if that charges/discharges the battery, that's a big no-no. I'd prefer to not open up the keyboard to disconnect the battery, too.
>>102490644I'm dead set on 100% layoutmy thinking is if I'm going to bottom the keys out anyway might as well make it a light press to lessen fatigue, guess I'll experiment down the lineI'm asking in case I'm missing something better for the price, this thing has many goodies (knob, allegedly VIAL support, wireless with 2 dongles stored in keyboard, screwin stabilizers, gasket, prelubed, rgb)
>>102491064I can finger your skull harder than a bull dyke fresh from prison fingering her Hollywood crush. Just because you want to put your fingers through hell doesn't mean I have to. Unlike you I will be able to finger fuck well into my 80s
Anyone know if the Keychron Carbon Cherry profile keycaps are actually differently colored compared to the OEM ones? Pic related are Cherry, and they look somewhat desaturated. Gonna post the OEM next.
>>102491211These are the OEM. You can see the colors are much stronger.>it's just the photoI guessed that might be the case but if I'm dropping $40 on keycaps I'd prefer to make sure.
>mt3 caps plummeting in priceAre people getting sick of drops's bullshit?
>>102491309I mean, as long as you waited for their 2-3 times per year BOGO sale there was never any reason to pay full price for MT3 sets.I got MT3 dev/tty/ and MT3 White-on-Black for less than $180 total.
>>102486383plateless neo80 ($110)gateron milky browns ($20)dye sub pbt keycaps from aliexpress ($25)spending a little more for cherry browns would be better ofc. shipping costs might drive up neo80 price.
>>102491081The original prebuilt Q6 has PBT keycaps too (unless you're an isobro). I don't know about the battery bypass for the wireless ones, but the Q-series is very easy to open. Just a few hex head screws, and they even come with the hex key
>>102491211>>102491225Those aren't even photos, they are renders. You can't tell shit by looking at them
>>102492826>isobroI am, so they cuck me with ABS. >but the Q-series is very easy to open. Just a few hex head screws, and they even come with the hex keyBuying a wireless to remove the battery feels a bit wrong but I guess I don't have much choice, it's a lot cheaper than getting the normal variant then buying PBS keycaps.The Max also seems to come with a bunch more shit in it (more foam/padding for example) so that would drive up the price even more.
>>102493783>I am, so they cuck me with ABSI feel you. ISO versions with PBT didn't exist when I got my board, so I just went with the barebones version and got caps separately. Not a budget option.>Buying a wireless to remove the battery feels a bit wrong but I guess I don't have much choiceYou could try to use it wireless. I'd imagine the battery life being pretty good without backlight. In any case the max series is supposed to have better latency than the original Q, so there's that
>>102494404>barebonesWish I could, getting it ISO 100% barebones black is impossible, out of stock everywhere, both the Max and original. >You could try to use it wireless.I guess or I just use it wired and if the battery gets fucked in a year I'll open it up and remove it. Supposedly the keyboard works wired once you remove the battery which SHOULD mean they wired it properly with a bypass but who knows, nowadays even supposedly premium products have extremely amateurish engineering mistakes in them.
>>102482732Is there a hand size chart for split keyboards?
>>102442399some mechanic keyboard I got from lidlkinda cool for the price
>>102494579Had I settled for an ANSI board, I probly would have taken it with caps and switches. I thought it was a fairly good deal for just some 30 € extra, especially as the PBT caps felt pretty nice
>>102490462just pulled the trigger on thisnervous about the shipping, I read they usually ship from china which is pretty fucking retarded while they run like 4 EU websiteswe'll see what happens
>>102496364I read that the EU websites ship from a warehouse in Poland, but who knows?The most important thing with the V6 max is to do my patented gasket mod that I came up with:0. remove all foams obviously1. remove the left and right side gaskets because you watched a Taehatypes video where he said side gaskets are unnecessary2. notice the sound is significantly improved but the Esc key sags because of the shortened upper-left gasket that leaves room for the daughter board3. cut a small piece of foam from the board's packaging which measures 3/8" by 3/4" and tape it on top of the daughter board with hockey tape, to support the plateinstant improvement of left mods, just don't slam the escape keyhopefully someday I'll get confirmation from an anon that this is beneficial, but so far you'll just have to take my word for it
Adapter plates for moonlander coming in the mail on Monday>get tripod arms for my chair>get mini tripod for my desk>get quick release adapters so that I can swap them on the fly>Get puck so that I can actually use the tripod functionality from etsy because ZSA wants to rape me for something that should have came with the fucking thing>this cost an additional $200This is kind of adding up at this point but I can use the tripods for something else at the very least.If I didn't use this fucking things for over 4 years now and use it up to 12 hours a day I would have said to hell with this.
>>102497183>This is kind of adding up at this pointthis could be /mkg/'s slogan. You know, I only came here to repair two switches on an old Daskeyboard. $2500 later...
>>102492239prebuilt please
>>102486383actually im retardedi got mixed up between ANSI and ISO>ANSIPLEASE
>>102498205True, while it's a bit of a money pit this is a amazing keyboard that I got years of use out of. The software is also being maintained and the amount of customization is pretty astounding from the web gui alone. Saves me a ton of time setting up compared to my dactyl plus I can easily setup cool combos like making the two red buttons trigger contrl, alt delete when both pressed at the same time or using a control backspace at the same time to delete which can also delete one word forward by using the OSM control key then pressing it again with backspace at the same time. It's pretty fun.
>>102479875Condition doesn't really matter as much anymore since the wax mod is piss easy to do and fixes up even the worst condition Alps switches
I need a new keyboard, something quiet so I don't keep my roommate up, but I really like how clicky and tactile blue switches are.Any recs for around $100-$120?US100%ANSI I've been using a cheap steelseries apex 5 that's finally shitting out on me. Still trying to really parse what's a good alternative to blue switches. Don't give a shit about backlight one way or another.
>>102498278if you live near Toronto just get it all shipped to my house and I'll build it for you
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>>102497071never modded any keyboard the most I plan is to tape some foam inside the space barI pray it doesnt turn into some princess and the pea shit like that
Why the fuck do people shove foam amd tape into their keyboards? You are only making the keyboard more shitty and sabotaging it. Foam degrades overtime along with tape adhesive which can act as a dirt/dust/grease/grime trap and when I hear that it is mostly for spacebars I wonder why anons are not changing the spacebar itself or its stabilizers. The sort of dust or gunk that foam and tape adhesives turn into over time is vile and getting that shit off of metal or plastics is a fucking pain to do.
Despite me cleaning it regularly, I noticed that my Keyboard with PBT keycaps gets oily very very easily. Not at the same level as pic related but you can definitely see the keys that get used more often.Are ABS keycaps better in this regard?
>>102503202forgot pic
>>102503202>>102503210they are worse in that regard
>>102502584>>102503054I'll use draft stopper foam tape, had some for years on heavily used doors, it's as good as new still
>>102503210ABS shines much better/faster/evenly than PBT.PBT (if made well) shouldn't start to shine within the first 10-20 years.
>>102503054It's a crutch for bad sounding boards.
>>102504937>bad sounding boards.yeah but that doesn't explain people wasting hundreds of dollars on a board only to make it sound better. why not buy a decently sounding board in the fisrt place?
>>102504016good to know. I think I'll stick with the caps I have. non-ANSI caps at a reasonable price are much more difficult to find.
>>102505025>yeah but that doesn't explain people wasting hundreds of dollars on a board only to make it sound better. why not buy a decently sounding board in the fisrt place?Anon from >>102503054, that is a more understandable frame of logic to me. Those sort of owners ussually like tinkering with perceived imperfections to their tastes. Shit like reverb or resonance is a very niche element to the keyboard design process with manufacturers. But what anons will do to resolve it themselves just seems counter-intuitive as the amount of old keyboards I have opened up in the past only to find foam plates or tape adhesives for cable/label management turn the inside of them into swamps to be far too many to count. Combine this with the average foam board lifespan being 10 years tops and I have little to no confidence in these "mods".
Is bottom out weight different than spring weight? I read that bottom out of mx2a black was 85, so I bought 72g 3 stage springs, but these springs are definitely heavier than stock mx2as.
>>102506589Spring specs are never exact and have a degree of variance
>>102506589A spring has two important stats: bottom-out weight and length. A very long spring will feel much heavier at the top than a very short spring, because it is already significantly compressed when you begin the keystroke.An MX2A black will be 80g at bottom out but closer to 45g at the top of the press. Something like an HMX Garnet with a 22mm spring will be a similar ~40g weight at the top but only ~55g at bottom-out.Since your springs are triple stage I'm going to bet they're quite long and might be heavier through much of the travel than a short MX2A spring.
>>102440466Could you guys recommend me a set of keycaps that look exactly like picrel (slk dessau, the black variant specifically) but with a regular shape instead of completely round?>>102461402Because not everyone has time or interest in that. I understand the appeal (I like Gunpla, enough said), but some people might just want something "complete" ootb.
>>102500374Bump
>>102487865Okay, my interest is piqued. What are the best places to learn more about these esoteric artifacts?
is there a collection of upcoming group buys for stuff like keycaps or do I really need to keep an eye open on the usual sites?
What's the best quality and best value brown switch keyboard for under 100 dollarsI don't care about switching key caps or aesthetics or RGB but would like it to be backlitalso I have to have a numpad
>>102508730Grab a Keychron
>>102508674https://www.mechgroupbuys.com/Not the most up to date though.
>>102508929uh thats sexy! thanks amigo
>>102508674>usual sitesThere's literally only one site, and it's geekhack. Every other site uses GH as main info source.
click
>>102508730uhhhhhhhh keychron
October scheme rdy
>>102442399SSK today.
am i fuckin retarded or something? im trying to pull the switches out of this keychron, and i've only done about 1/4 of them so far. and two of them just like were not coming out. i know how the switch is in there, there's these two latches that you squeeze with the puller, but the cunts were not coming out. so i basically mangled the latch with the puller and i just had to manhandle it to pull it out.im rocking it back and forth trying to be gentle and shit, but some of these switches are probably fucked.
>>102510985That'll be $999.99 plus tax plus tip
>>102511089Don't squeeze, you should only have to press in gently. Try moving the puller around a bit and it should come loose.
>>102511237Luckily I didn't pay anywhere near those prices.
>>102511089Make sure those pins you pointed out are squeezed in on both sides and don't pull straight out. You're supposed to wiggle them out.
>>102450086
>>102460497>still wish you made a full 1u versionthese aren't 1u alphas?
>>102442399Venn with lubed/filmed/springswapped CJsthis is my favorite board to type on by far. super underrated imhoreally been liking MTNU since it came out
>>102476207do these support via?been thinking about trying one lately
i got a keyboard with a screen for a good price, maybe a dumb question but is it possible to mod the screen to show music info or something?
>>102511991I have mine running QMK, so I don't see why not. Last I checked there's a via keymap in the qmk github for it.
The Evo80 is available on QwertyKeys website right now, it just want live if you want to grab one. It's their first prebuilt and seems pretty sick for a prebuilt keyboard. There will be unlimited stock in the future but this batch is limited
>>102512624Why not do Plover?
>>102512624>$170Meh, I'd rather pay $50 more for an aftermarket geon frog.
My Leopold FC900R has finally given up the ghost. Many years of faithful service. Many deep cleans and lots of shit drunkenly spilled upon it.Any recommendations for a replacement? No RGB, full size. Cherry switches are fine.
>>102512799Honestly it's hard for me to want a non QK keyboard at this point. The magnetic connectors and ball catch system make them so easy to take apart. I can't go back. Do you guys think this color will look good in person? I'm going to get this or purple
>>102512859Cringe aesthetic.
>>102512838Yeah, I've got a recommendation for you.Quit drinking, at least at your desk and you won't need to replace your next keyboard.
>>102512885The board or the color? Honestly I quite like both
>>102512933never
>>102440466Thoughts on this compact keyboard layout I came up with? It's a modified 75% layout. Navigation keys shifted one column to the right (adding one column). This keeps the right Shift in its standard position instead of moving it, for better aesthetics and muscle memory. Right shift shrunk slightly to make it better match left Shift for symmetry and to make room for an extra key. Delete key placed near the arrow keys where it belongs. Home/End and PgUp/PgDn kept in their standard arrangement for better muscle memory. Extra keys in what would otherwise be empty space to fill out the right side. Finally, extra keys on the left side for symmetry, although I'm not sure if it would be better without to keep the keyboard shorter. All extra keys could be used for macros, gaming, etc.
>>102513035I would be more interested without the left side addition.If I want more keys I'll get a 96%/1800/100% or a separate macro pad.
>>102512838Anyway, I was looking at replacements and I am caught between two different Ducky models. The Origin Black and the One 2 Phantom Black. There is only a $5 price difference, but I am not sure what the difference is between them. Does one have features the other does not?
My keycaps keep falling off my mx reds. Buy better caps?
>>102513228Stick a small square of very thin plastic sheet (like from a plastic bag) between the stem and the keycap.
>>102513184I don't understand why people go for ducky.Have a look at the Keychron C2 pro
>>102513273>Keychron C2 proHonestly, its ugly.
>>102471763What kind of solder are you using? Lead free solder is for women btw.
are some pcbs harder than others to desolder? I spent 4 fucking hours struggling to desolder my monospace and damaged 1/5 of the sockets in the process, no matter how much I hit those holes with the sucker and the wick, or added more solder and sucked it out again, there would still be a tiny imperceptible bit of solder left sticking the pin to the socket, and eventually you'd get enough out that the switch could pull out but it would often tear a little bit of the socket with it. Maybe I shouldn't have pulled as hard as I did on some of them (not even that hard, mind you) but when you've been struggling with the same switch for 15 minutes you start to get reckless.I hope it's not ruined lol but if it is good riddance to this stupid fucking hobbyI remember my daskeyboard being piss easy to desolder, I don't understand why this is so different.
>>102513228yeah mx red stems are pretty consistent, if the caps are coming off that's faulty caps. get shenpo
>>102446668Enjoy your dactyl autistic 3d print garbage. Nothing comes out as sturdy as production line mass produced goods. I hate 3d printed stuff and like to shake and bang my keyboards, move them around, throw them in boxes, travel with them. This thing wouldn't last a fucking week.
>>102513388>form over functionThe Keychron is a much better board with qmk/via & south facing switches. You coud just get black keycaps if you don't like the default ones.
Looking to buy XDA keycaps, what should I look out for, would PBT suffice
>>102507922Biggest one is Deskauthority and one of their power users called Chyrosran22. He has a channel where he reviews different boards and he has a lot of ones dedicated to vintage stuff. But be warned he is a Gen X anglo. If you cant stomach that just exploring the Deskauthority wiki is a rabbit hole by itself.
>>102515830PBT is fine but be warned they will get glossy with age.
>>102514346>Nothing comes out as sturdy as production line mass produced goodsRetard
>>102516503That's what ABS does, not PBT. That and """"PBT"""" which is actually just a mixture of PBT and ABS.
I am so fucking pissed off that these no longer exist
What's the point of linears? A switch without any tacticile feedback is a broken switch imo.
>>102518027The bottom out is the tactle feedback.
>>102518190>bottoming outnasty
>>102518027>What's the point of linears?I don't know, I've only used membrane and linear swiches.
>>102518823That's half the fun of a keyboard switch.
>>102518027They are pure function. The only reason why tactile exists is to give an indicator of actuation point for light typers. Clickies were only made to exist because of typewritters and giving typists the familiarity of the older technology when moving to keyboards. Nowadays people like linears specifically because of them being either quiet or producing more deep "thunk" sounds when bottoming out compared to clickies which are more medium or high pitched.
Freshly baked >>102519085
this retard really can't stand the possibility of someone else making a new thread huh?Just can't wait for 308-310 posts.The moment we're at 280+ and he's awake? New thread.It's like baby.
>>102518190>>102518823People don't bottom out?
>>102519108You're not wrong, probably 75% of these threads never reach the bump limit these days because one retard can't help himself.
>>102519108I do it too piss you off specifically
>>102519132Hardly, I don't even come to these threads more than 1-2 times a week, so if you've seen someone else bitching about it, it wasn't me.
>>102519144Fair point, either way I find it funny when anons react. Shit gets stale around 280 anyway and at this point I am just contributing to bump limit
>>102519108seconded
>>102450086nice>>102460282nice>>102448522nice>>102510985nice
>>102499535I mean it still holds true though, you're restoring the switches.
