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Shameless repost

I just bought a MS33-AR0 and 128gb(32x4) of Registered memory but only after buying I realised the board only supports 96GB of RDIMMS . If I plug them all 4 in will I still get the speed of 4 DIMMS with 96GBs or should I just leave one out as a spare and accept only 3 channels?

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Anyone can give any suggestions for my build?
budget 2k, eu. sorry am retard

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Pauliust9/saved/hM7bkL

>>102792459
No point in making recommendations right now at your budget level. Come back after Arrow Lake and the 9800X3D are released.

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>>102792403
>Arctic S12038-4K
Is it beter than the P12 (MAX) at the same rpms? Why don't other fan mamufacturers build 38mm thick fans?

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most repairable computer mouse? im tired of shitty slop mice that have screw holes under teflon and start double clicking on their side buttons in less than 2 years

Do people with a nice OLED or MiniLED or whatever makes HDR look decent permanently enable HDR on Windows or just toggle it whenever necessary?

>>102792522
9800X3D is a meme

>>102792522
I appreciate your suggestion, it is what I was thinking exactly. Hope you have a great rest of your day, I'm gonna spend the money on some coke and hookers till they come out.

>>102792459
Way over-spending on the PSU, I know about EU energy prices.
But it's still too much, get a 850W Platinum or even a Gold unit.

You should be using a 1440p monitor with that kind of system.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/YR6nkJ

Even this PSU is good enough, ATX 3.x units had to pass low-load efficiency requirements.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5

>>102792459
>EU
where in europe?
Not all options ship everywhere
Since I don't know where you're from, I'll only look at germany

Swap CPU cooler for Phantom Spirit, it's an updated PA & better in every say while being identically priced in germany
I'd personally grab the cheapest 2x16gb 6000mhz CL30 set
I'd personally grab a cheaper NVMe, most people don't need a high end SSD (if you know you do, obviously ignore this)
Since your monitor is 1080p and you won't really benefit from DLSS, have you considered going AMD or are you a diehard nvidia fanboy?
That PSU is fucking expensive & stronger than you need.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fY7r9c
This ends up being around 200€ cheaper & should perform identical or better, although another option would be to stick with the 4070ti super and just get a 1440p/4k monitor instead then use DLSS

>>102792559
On my AMD setup HDR is on at all times. On Nvidia its toggled because their implementation is whack.

Best 4K IPS monitors under $500 that I can buy right now?

>>102792572
Why change the ram from gskill to corsair and the ssd to 770 rather 850x?

Still thanks.

>>102792613
Because you mentioned a budget of 2K EU, that list crossed it even with those cost savings.

>>102792613
You also need to make sure the CPU cooler and video card dimensions are compatible with that case.

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i'm dumb af. whats the different between these 3

>>102792598
>where in europe?
Lithuania, still buying from germany tho

Great recommendations, thanks. I am indifferent to AMD and nVidia, but in the end I am still gonna use openBSD and loonix so why not go AMD.

>>102792572
Don't put a dramless ssd as the main drive...you'll regret it in the long run. Sn850x is better.

>>102792650
VRM cooling sticks out, prob some other stuff too
. literally look

so is the 9800x3d worth waiting for

>>102792645
ye
>>102792627
True, the prices are constantly jumping so I regress the 2000 to somewhere 2200, since I can do import tax fraud and get cheaper prices from usa.

>>102792563
Yes, but the price-hiked 7800X3D is a scam.
Memes > Scams

>>102792572
>>102792403
>>102792658
DO NOT BUY THE SN770
It's broken on Windows now
https://community.wd.com/t/windows-24h2-wd-blue-screens/297867/58

>>102792606
How so?
I have a very similar experience with AMD (onboard iGPU on a 7840U laptop with an OLED screen) and nvidia (4070 super, with an OLED monitor). On my laptop I don't usually use HDR because everything looks really washed out even after calibration unless it's HDR. On my PC it's a similar thing except I can make more software add RTX HDR to videos, but it makes some shit look weird so I always debate whether or not I should bother.

>>102792671
>so is the 9800x3d worth waiting for
Probably slight performance increase on single thread performance, the ones who knew bought the 7800x3d for 300 when they could.

Although I still have my hopes up and wait for the 9800x3d.

>>102792671
yes, but only because of the cringes prices on the 7800x3d right now

>>102792678
I have both an SN770 as system drive and SN850X as storage drive, I'm on 24h2 and haven't had any problems so far. Even checked the event viewer.

>>102792531
asking from ignorance, how does a thicker fan make it better?

>>102792531
>Is it better than the P12 (MAX) at the same rpms?
Probably a wash. Yes thicker is better but the P12 has more blade area and is optimized for lower speeds (such that a $5 fan can be optimized).
As someone who did this with a 6kRPM Delta your main problem will be getting it to hit those "same RPMs". It pulls 3.2A max so plugging it into a standard header is out. Means you need to a) find a PWM controller that can do 3.2A or, b) run it with voltage control off an old-style controller. Naturally the second option will mean your minimum speed will be much higher than the advertised 800RPM. Option A would get you proper control but 800RPM is still relatively loud by modern standards and the ball bearing doesn't help either.
All in all it's a fun project, and a great way to push the limits of air cooling, but not something you want in your daily rig.

>Why don't other fan mamufacturers build 38mm thick fans?
There's a few eg. those Fractal ones in the Torrent and ofc plenty of "normal speed" server fans from the likes of Delta. A few 30mm thick desktop fans exist too. I guess they're not common because it fucks with established clearances for radiators and such.

>>102792755
SN850X is fine. SN770 is fucked. 24h2 changes the HMB values and older dramless drives with 64mb locked firmware don't like that.

>>102792829
That's weird
Hell, I've had the SN770 for even longer too. The SN850X is a recent purchase. Maybe it's because I updated from 23h2 to 24h2 instead of doing a clean install?
Where can I even check if I'm affected by this?

>>102792403
Maybe the wrong place to ask.

>are there any X86 computers
>that aren't intel or amd
>that are commercially available in the US
>that aren't hardware level spyware botnet

It doesn't need the latest and greatest in gaytracing technology. Just something that works for basic tasks and isn't pozzed on the hardware level.

I'm concerned that the US will become an Orwellian dictatorship in the near future where tech is no longer content just spying on you, but actively ratting you out to the government.

>durr been that way

STFU pedo.

>>102792932
>will become

>>102792785
There's a lot of variables to consider but generally having a thicker chord gives you more static pressure. Or rather, it lets the designer increase static pressure without sacrificing "unrestricted" airflow.

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>>102792828
They only use 0.33A so using 2 on a header should be fine, right?

>>102792920
This has been happening since 26100.2033. If you're on older then you're not affected.

>>102792678
The fixTM
https://community.wd.com/t/windows-24h2-wd-blue-screens/297867/41

>>102792965
Oh my bad I was reading the specs for the 8kRPM variant. On Arctic's website they say 0.6A is the max so two on a header would be pushing it (assuming standard 1A headers). Probably fine with safety factor but you really don't want to eat your margins like that - use separate headers.
I'd be remiss if I didn't say that I'm somewhat sceptical of Arctic's numbers here. The max current on the 4k variant is less than one fifth of that on the 8k one. I understand there's nonlinearities involved but that's a huge difference - enough for me to break out the current clamps. If they got it wrong it's your house burning down.

>>102793073
For what its worth changing to 64mb didnt fix it for others. Only disabling HMB entirely did but thats bad on dramless.

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>>102793034
Well fuck me, I'm on that very build.
I don't get it. It's even allocating 200 MiB but I haven't had any issues since I last updated.

>>102792459
Seni, moki 2 plytas ir aini su 1080p buildu lol, tuo labiau amd kek

>>102793094
Are you using nvme drivers or a raid controller?

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>>102793102

Poorfag thirdie here, is the 7800XT a good enough upgrade from the 1080Ti? 1080p@60 only, don't intend to use RTX or memescaling.

>>102793158
cheesus it will be like going from a 30 year old Lada to a McLaren

>you will be pleased, anon

>>102793182
It seems like it's pretty much double the performance but in the past I've always waited until every upgrade was like 3-4 times the performance of the previous card, that's why I'm reluctant to get it.

>tfw have a 3070
do i bother upgrading? only thing i'm worried about is monhun wilds next year

if i don't care about anything ai related, am i gimping myself by switching from nvidia to amd?

>>102793209
The 5070 will likely be out by then

>>102793158
>1080p@60 only
Why? Consider getting a monitor upgrade before a GPU upgrade.

>>102793241
If you care about RT stuff then yeah, but if all you care about is pure raster performance then Nvidia is really overpriced compared to AMD.

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>>102793204
>reluctant to get it
then don't spend the money yet, latest cards will come out and maybe the prices on some older cards will drop and you can find a good deal, seems you understand the waiting game for tech

>btw RTX is Nvidia only but you knew that I think.
>and memescaling on RTX is fun

>>102793282
i just want big frames in any game i play

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>be me
>buy components for a new pc
>pretty good midrange motherboard, not too expensive but not cheap either
>about to install cpu
>*engage bullet time*
>T+00:00:00.052 lower cpu towards socket
>T+00:00:01.410 slip and bend pins on the motherboard AND accidentally touch pins on the back of the cpu during pulling back hands in reflex
>motherboard clearly destroyed, cpu pins have a light stain where my finger touched (not because hands were dirty, this was a warranty voiding coating on the pins)
>buy new motherboard and install cpu EXTRA SUPER HYSTERICALLY carefully
>cpu still works at least
>destroyed, new-looking shiny motherboard now lying in my room, waiting for me to throw it away when I get around to the electronic waste collection place
>every bluescreen from now on will make me wonder if it was due to my earlier mistake

>>102793339
post pic of pin damage so anons cans evaluate

>>102793339
LGA CPUs don't have pins, just contact pads, so it's almost certainly completely fine.
As for the motherboard, you can probably bend the pins back into shape if you have a steady hand and some tweezers.

>i7 265k is cheaper than 7800x3d and 9700x
Back to intel then?

>>102793339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw9d2ZKYdHM

>>102793373
CPU is already mounted and working. This post was sent through said CPU. It's probably fine, but still it pisses me off.
>>102793393
Yes, I meant contact pads.

>>102793282
>monitor upgrade
Feels like a scam, honestly. Get a bigger monitor, then you want a higher resolution, then you're forever stuck with having to buy a top GPU to drive it. I'm not gonna spend thousands to play fucking video games.
>>102793293
>memescaling on RTX is fun
I played Cyberpunk on a buddy's 4080 and honestly it's not that impressive, unless you actively stop to look at things (which I don't really do) I don't notice much, even on the retarded Overdrive mode or whatever they called it.

>>102793125
Except for AMD chipset drivers, nothing that doesn't get installed by windows update automatically

>inb4 9800x3d is priced $50-100 higher than whatever retarded price the 7800x3d is going for now
>will probably run noticeably hotter such that an aio might be recommended
5800x3d chads stay winning

>>102793460
>feels like a scam
Fundamentally this is an entertainment device so it's all a "scam" from a puritan's perspective. If you can put that impulse aside you can make a reasonable attempt at optimizing the whole experience - there's diminishing returns on graphical fidelity so, after a certain point, a bigger or faster monitor would be more impactful than a better card. Then there's diminishing returns on that too so at some point you get more out of audio, or peripherals, or furniture. This is of course all within the confines of your budget and personal preferences. If you really like max settings but don't give a damn about how it sounds then, sure, pour the whole budget into the card.

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>>102793441
>pads

show us the bent pins on the mobo, anon.

>we love that kind of carnage here

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Ok tell me if I'm doing anything retarded, building a sff for mainly browsing/storage with some light gaming on old but cpu intensive games.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/76g9xH
Considering swapping the 3050 for a 1660ti if I can find a cheap one on ebay or something, 16gb of amazon ram, not sure what I'm gonna do on storage yet but might just salvage whats on my current pc

>>102793438
One of the better LTT content. Thx.

>>102792677
what a shitty year

>>102793771
Looks fine. Think I'd pay another $20 for a 12400F but it's probably a wash for old games.

Why avoid fishtank?

>>102793856
Eh yeah I'm upgrading from a 4790k so $20 sounds better to me than the minor bump in performance from what I'm coming from

Core ultra is crap, AMD has high latency and 25-30w idle power(currently on 5700x and it's awful)
What's about 13600k/14600k + Z790 + undervolt?

>>102793910
Sure I'm mostly concerned about longevity. Seems operating systems will expect 6 cores at some point in the near future (and I'll need to upgrade from my 4810MQ laptop). I guess if it does become a problem you'll probably be able to buy a used 13400 for 50 bucks at that point.

I just want a CPU not crippled by some fatal design flaw or bottleneck, that's meaningfully faster than my current 5 year old CPU.
Is that so much to ask?

>>102793926
If you want low idle and latency you'd need to go back to 10th gen.

>>102793888
Typically they are more expensive and are geared towards AIOs, making them substandard for air cooling.

>>102793942
Would using win10 ltsc or switching to linux avoid that if it becomes reality? I'd probably inevitably upgrade to whatever the cheapest 6 core that suits my usecase. In the short term I'm really looking at what has the best price+single core performance combo since the few games I still play don't even utilize multiple cores

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>>102792403
I'm building a computer for my sister. She wants to use it for blender and doing instagram filters and what not.
She got a ryzen 9900x, and I was thinking of pairing that with pic related. I'm mostly worried about cooling. Will the AG620/AK620 be enough? Thermalright in my country is absurdly expensive (like 200 dollars), so I think my best next bet would be this one. But should I go AIO? She wants to get something like a 5070 or around that in the future.

>>102793888
idk I just added it to the OP as a shitpost because I keep seeing people ask for case recommendations & no fishtanks
they look stupid & have bad airflow I suppose

>>102794279
Post her Instagram bunda

>>102794279
>9900x
>absurdly expensive (like 200 dollars)
bruh

>>102794279
>Thermalright in my country is absurdly expensive (like 200 dollars), so I think my best next bet would be this one
give country retard, how would we know what's the next best option? I don't even think that's considered a common or good cooler

also give her instagram

>>102793943
literally the only cpus having fatal design flaws are intel cpus, and i dont know what you mean by a botleneck

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>>102794279
You want at minimum 2x16GB DDR5 RAM because 1) Blender itself recommends 32GB and 2) 8GB DDR5 sticks use lower quality chips
Get a 2x16GB 6000CL30 kit or 6000CL32 kit

>>102794315
paying 200$ for a 35$ cooler is absurd, yes
>>102794328
couldn't the AMD driver issues on windows be seen as a big issue? I know it's not their fault but still

>>102794328
having 8 cores is a fatal flaw
having to fiddle around with process lasso on CPUs with more than 9 cores is a fatal flaw too
no I don't care it's microshart's fault, if your company can't force them to support their product it's your problem

>>102792403
Bros the Armaggeddon Tessaraxx has 3 pins, can that work with 4 pin rgb fans?

>>102794346
amd issues on windows are a understatement. its microsoft and devs screwing over amd. worse performance because the scheduler is optimized for intel. drivers uninstalling themselves because windows update thinks amds whql is not valid. its a whole systematic issue with microsoft.

>>102794315
Dude, it's like 30 dollars in America. I'm not spending 7 times that for an air cooler.

>>102794320
I'm from Argentina. Prices are all over the place here. You can see what we have available here:
https://compragamer.com/productos?cate=36
https://www.hardgamers.com.ar/search?text=cooler+cpu

>>102794341
Thanks for the heads up. Will try to follow your advice but she was fired recently, so her idea was getting an extra 16 gigs down the line. Will see if I can convince her to get 32.

>>102793943
No, there are plentiful options to pick from which will savagely rape your 5 year old up the anus in any benchmark you can find. Just take your pick, there are a lot to choose from.

will a GRE run on a 650 watt power supply with 3 hard drives connected?

Do any Europoors (UK particularly) have experience getting friends in the US to buy parts cheaper and ship them over with an undervalued/incorrect customs declaration to avoid import tax?
Considering doing this with an unboxed processor but I don't know how likely it would be to get picked up by customs, it would be in a package with some other stuff too

Should I have bought an additional HDD instead of an external HD? HDDs don't really have capacity I'm looking for but maybe there's a benefit I'm not seeing.

>>102794544
Should be fine, your whole system is rarely (if ever) going to run at full load.

>>102793943
7800x3d or 5700x3d?

>>102794424
How much more is this?
https://www.scphardstore.com/producto/cpu-cooler-cooler-master-hyper-212-white/?utm_source=hardgamers&utm_medium=search%20engine

Hyper 212 is outdated and overpriced for the money in most places, but it's still a good cooler

Also just be a good brother and spot her the difference with a 32gb set and have her pay you back when she would have bought the other sticks. Prevents potential issues of the two sets not working together

>>102794548
If you get caught you get fucked hard iirc

>>102794634
That's actually significantly cheaper. It's like 40 bucks and the AG620 was like 70. I'll probably give her a hand with the ram, yeah.
Thanks a lot, anon.
btw, do you think the 750 watt corsair PSU would be able to run the 9900x with the nvidia 5070 down the line?

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>>102794299
>idk I just
kek'd

>they look stupid & have bad airflow I suppose
to each their own. i personally want to hide the Cheeto dust that accumulates in there.

airflow is le meme in most builds. real airflow control involves ducting for your specific build but the aesthetic of clear ducting in a windowed case would look like a hamster cage (which would be ok if you're into that sort of thing)

>cheetle

>>102794658
Surely it's not that likely for something as small as a CPU in a package with a load of other stuff

>>102792430
it's 96GB per DIMM, not total

>>102794658
what anon said

>why cheat yourself out of the money if you get fined, think of the upgraded hardware you could get with the same money

Thermalright really should include better Intel brackets or at least more simple ones like the AM4 ones. Can't believe I spent 30 minutes last night fumbling about because the P.S 120 wouldnt align

>>102792430
>just bought
does the vendor have tech support? Complain, RMA ram, ask for whatever will just werk best in your system

>profit?

>>102794658
The chance of that is infinitesimal, aliexpress chinks do this for just about everything.

AM5 bros what brand is your mobo and how long does it take for you to boot to windows?

>>102794714
What do you think the risk is worth?
You can get fined up to like a thousand, charged the normal customs fee or have the package be destroyed/sent back

>>102794808
I can only speculate but it seems highly unlikely to me that, if I were to declare there was a CPU in the package (but as a much cheaper, second hand model), it would actually get found out even if the package were to be X-rayed or whatever.

>you want a SECOND ssd?
>here, let me downgrade your gpu to x8
NVME was a mistake
I hate the antichrist

>>102794880
Also FUCK AMD

>>102794699
>Thanks a lot, anon.
Keep in mind, it's no guarantee the hyper 212 is better, it's just that hyper212 WAS very popular & known to be a good cooler and incredible value for the money (costed 20-25$ previously)

Sadly the image is wrong, the SKU says it's the 1 fan model yet the image is the 2 fan model, so you lose cooling on that & it might end up being worse than what you picked out
Sadly you don't wanna skimp on the 9900x's cooling so you might need to keep looking.
I've waded through too many pages to want to keep looking, so I think you'll need to find a good one yourself & check reviews (maybe the one you picked is good, idk didn't check)
>btw, do you think the 750 watt corsair PSU would be able to run the 9900x with the nvidia 5070 down the line?
Should be plenty fine

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>>102793282
>monitor upgrade
>forever stuck with having to buy a top GPU to drive it
anon i have a different take on this, a really good monitor is an investment that can survive many upgrade cycles. just make sure it can natively handle all your resolution and refresh rate needs before you -> buy once and cry once

you can /gayme/ on a 32" 4K at 1440p and enjoy life with a nice shitposting desktop too. my 32" BenQ has been working fine for years capped at 60Hz and its all been good. if you can buy something nice and keep it for years you will not regret. even the shittiest GPUs can now support 4K for desktop use.

my monitor can either scale or letterbox non 4k inputs, which can be nice to have

>>102793293 (You)
>memescaling on RTX is fun
ehhh... yeah, not that type of memescale activity i was referring to but ok

>>102794726
Thanks , that makes sense

>>102793246
Wilds comes outs in February

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Does anyone here have a 5.25" USB port panel? Are they garbage? Would appreciate suggestions on -where- to buy them if not.
The idea randomly came to me while I was considering whether to replace my 9-year old case (Cougar Archon) and to my surprise it actually exists. The only problem is I can't find anything made by a reputable company, only chinkshit. Would be ideal if I could keep this case for my next build.

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I'm going to build a pc with 7900gre and 9800x3d and I'm going to put linux on it. I don't even like video games anymore.

Thoughts?

>>102795083
why

>>102794880
Is this still the case with b650 boards? Sorry been out of the loop for a while.

Question: What are the usual pros and cons betweem a mATX and an ATX case

>>102795118
smaller case = less space taken up
smaller case = limited space
if you have the room theres no reason to go with mATX

>>102795132
mATX boards tend to be slightly cheaper

>>102794914
Yeah, I figured the picture might be misleading on the 2 fan situation. I'm gonna ask and keep checking. Thanks a lot, really.

>>102795108
I have disposable income and I want to upgrade my setup. I spend most of my free time on the computer anyways so it might as well be decent

>>102795152
They also fit inside ATX cases.

>>102795169
Buy yourself some hookers instead, Anon.

>>102795152
stop being poor

>>102795169
buy a good chair instead

>>102795109
Pls respond

>>102794398
I kind of phrased this in a dumb way, basically the ARGB controller I want has a 3 pin connection but my fans have a 4 pin connection. Can I make this work.

>>102795132
>>102795152
Thanks. Just working out some kinks here and there.

>>102795083
if you're gonna settle for a gre, just settle for a 7800x3d

>>102795068
I have one that I don't use in my current build (and one of those all-in-one card reader things). Usually they just werk but don't expect them to match your case and even the fitment is kinda iffy on the cheap USB panel (all screwed together OK but the alignment of the USB ports to the front panel is off by a little bit for each one in different directions, so bad soldering).

Why not a good powered USB hub so you can hide your cables and shitpost a pic of your /battlestation/?

>>102795252
isn't that only a concern when you put GPU in the second slot?

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Seriously, how do I stop the dust?

>>102795301
buy a better case

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>>102795184
I have never had sex and I'm not going to start now. Only physical things I want is a good PC setup and a home gym

>>102795225
Already got one

>>102795291
Might as well get the new one since 7800x3d prices are so retarded these days

>>102795318
I couldn't find one that's sold in the current year

>>102795301
positive pressure
dust filters (clean them)

>>102795301
Air purifier, filters, positive pressure.

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the 12vhpw adapter that came with my 4070 super is too fat and clunky, can i just buy any direct cable or is there PSU manufacturer autism that will prevent this?
my PSU
>Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular

>>102795301
Don't sleep in the same room your PC is.
Run an air purifier 24/7.

>>102795353
>Don't sleep in the same room your PC is.
why

>>102795364
My guess: Dead skin particles.

>>102795348
Isn't that psu 3.0 compliant? You can buy 3rd party adapter that's thinner but there's still a risk. Don't mix power cables from different PSUs.

>tunnel vision into amd cpus
>compare 7900x (since 9900x is a joke) vs 7800x3d (waiting for 9800x3d)
>as expected use case is everything
>take a step back and include intel in the equation
>it absolutely demolishes productivity benchmarks and at worst loses 15% performance in gaming

was looking for an excuse to go team red but I mean...

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>>102795364
"dust" is mostly mite poop/corpses
beds are mite farms

is mercari legit? saw a used 4080 super there for $700, seller said it was working and had pics of the gpu with the box
>>102795353
>Don’t sleep in the same room your PC is
great advice for a high schooler or a college bro :/

>>102795353
I don't sleep in there but my cat does

>>102795401
>he gets bed mites
Do you live in the fucking slum or something

>>102794945
>consooming is an investment
I geniunely don't know why I keep coming to this board, you people are incurable. I bet you spend 1k on a phone, too.

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>>102795301
you can't and that is why i don't like fishtank or mesh or any of that open stuff

i want pic related hardcore en-gi-neeerd type airflow control so that my shit stays cool and quiet while i look at cat pictures in a case that does not look like a clown ejaculated neon on it and i want it in an ATX chassis that does not cost me an arm and a leg

>don't worry i'll air the cheetle out of it once in a while
>>102794704

>>102795395
have fun melting your pc down

>>102795420
The vast majority of homes have dust mites, retardbro
they're effectively normal

>>102795441
Stop living in filth

>>102795390
>ATX 3.0 Compatible
is what it says
thermaltake has a cable but it looks just as bulky as the original adapter im trying to replace and i dont think i can even get it shipped to me, its not listed on the US website

>>102795432
arrow lake seems to be cooler

>>102795451
>he thinks his home isn't full of sub 1mm critters
lole

Is it something necessarily hard to build a homenagem water cooling device? my friend has a very cool one thats very big and goes from the ceiling to the CPU and gpu and she said it was homemade, she said its not hard to build yet ita very easy to mess up, should I do it?

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>>102795469
They just put the sensor away from the hotspot and made the IHS thinner to cope with the heat better. The chip is still housefire tier.

>>102795480
Fuck no
Most scenarios air cooling is fine but if you really want you can just do an AIO instead

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>>102795421
this weirdo has gnawed through the leather straps again

>ignore the luddite shitposter

>>102795469
>I know they fucked up their last two gens, but I believe in them to not have any flaws on their new one :)

>>102795480
>buy a water block and 2 five meter pieces of rubber hose
>attach one length of hose to cold water tap and run in into the water block
>attach the other hose to the water block output and hang the loose end outta the window
there, sub-ambient, noiseless and probably cheaper than spending electricity on running the pump too

>>102795459
It's a 600W cable of course it's bulky. Corsair psu have some reasonably thin 12VHPWR cables.

ATX24V when

>>102795537
There is nothing wrong with 13000s

>>102795537
yeah but when you get 40% differences in certain programs you start to question things

>>102795560
uh oh, please consult your handler, you're not allowed to actually technically lie when shilling

Will Arrow Lakes E-Cores negatively impact gaming perfomance or are they finally developed enough to be used? I

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Does anyone still make a case like these, that will fit today's components?

Just 3+ bays at the top, no ventilation on front or sides, front USB would be nice but I can add that myself in one of the drive bays.

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>>102795573
Works fine on my machine

>>102795629
ATX form factor has been a standard for many years so yes you can surely find a plain case with some open bays somewhere.

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>>102795629
yes

>>102795629
Just filter by external 5.25" bays, there's still tons of boomercore cases out there.

>>102795681
gol dang i had one of them old Gateway towers for years and gave it awy, probably worth more than a case of beer to some /noob/

>>102795543
wait so did you just attach it to a hose then to the water block? You gotta send a pic anon thats cool af

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>>102795754
anon you don't really ...

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>>102795578
The thread director controller should be getting better with every new hybrid CPU release.

would you buy a Zotac gpu at a good enough price?

Is the 14400F from intel kosher now with microcode fix? I prefer the stability of Intel's system and their mobos are usually better.

>>102796024
no you have to buy AMD

>>102796018
no, hard to sell due to lack of transferable warranty

>>102796059
Not a problem in the EU

>>102796018
Zotac made the only GPU I ever had issues with, so no

>>102796018
Zotac is far better than palit, gigabyte or other cheap vendors

>>102796024
Anything lower than 13600K/14600K is a alder lake

>>102795578
Depends on the SKU

>>102796165
Gigabyte has hits or misses.

>>102796165
gigabyte makes good cards

anons always buy the cheapest model in a vendor provides , it breaks then they say
> THIS VENDOR SUCKS
no anon, the cheapest model from all vendors suck

>>102792559
Toggle because enabling HDR means all legacy and desktop applications will be squeezed into SRGB

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What's the best bang for a buck card to take a 1080p PC up to solid 1440p gaming?

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Is the Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined enought to cool the r5 7600 quietly?

Anyone recommend a toolbox to keep all of their PC scrap? I got a shit load of screws, cables, wire strippers, scissors, screwdrivers, all kinds of tech shit that's cluttering up my desk drawers.

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>me when Ultra & 265k + RTX 5090

>>102796573
4070 Super if you're an /nvidiafag/

>price/performance breddy good

>>102796594
there's no such thing as an objective "quietly"
The difference between my old wraith spire & the Hyper 212 I replaced it with is genuinely crazy, but you get used to that lower volume & at a certain point you start hearing it again

>>102796648
dude just use a plastic container ... you don't need special cases/boxes for everything
>unless you are autistic

>>102796573
7900GRE > 4070 Super

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>>102796648
for the tools I use pic related

>>102796665
Would the noise level that much different compared to the phantom spirit? I feel that having a double tower for a 65W CPU is a waste.

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My home server seems to have grown a bit too fat for its current PSU and it risks tripping the overload protection, so I need to upgrade.

What's the opinion on the Corsair RM1000e around here? I can get it for a good price in a local shop, I've done a bit of reading on it and it seems to be fairly well regarded too.

>>102796682
xdd

>>102796018
Only at a really good discount. I don't know if they still use absolute garbage fans on their GPUs, but they've done it at least once, so I'd rather not risk it.

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>>102796648
for screws look up stanley fatmax or similar container with removable containers instead of separators

>>102793438
>Prices of cheap motherboards gone up since this video
YOU RACE MIXING JEW FAT FETISHIST FAGGOT I AM GOING TO KILL YOU

>>102796769
>>102782742

>>102796748
One of the best you can get but it's a rebranded Seasonic.

>>102796915
now turn on ray tracing

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>>102796648
I use a bunch of these

>Arrow Lake post on reddit
>inevitable question of "Does socket support more than one generation?! I need to know"
Wow, I didn't realize that every prospective customer at this exact time has a need to get every new generation of CPU (+10%) while at the same time denouncing this coming generation for providing that 10%.

>>102796940
Which one? DXR? VKR? RTX? PSRT?

>>102797022
shhh dont try to make sense
>i consoom therefore I am

I have a 5600x. right now the 5900x is on sale for 200 fucking dollars and I want to buy one, but I also could just wait™ for the 5950x to come down in price as it is 350 right now. should I wait for moar coars or just buy the 5900? my gaming consists of balatro and rimworld and such, so x3d would be a waste of money imo. I do more 3d modeling than gaming and the computer is also a media server so i would think cores over cache is the way to go, right?

Question: Why are there so many jits on /g/ now? Like actual underaged cunts trying to larp as if they are old?

>>102797022
What if your parts break and you dont want to deal with jeets and paco on the marketplace?

>>102792403
How much better is 7700 over the 7600x

>>102797098
the x versions eat too many watts so

>>102797122
Ok, I mean if I get a 7700 for the same price as a 7600X, would it be a good deal. Does the extra cores make a big difference.

So I might jump from Zen3 to Arrow-Lake, what is the recommended ram speed for Intel? DDR5-8000? What about latencies?

>>102797133
def get the version that eats less watts

>>102797138
Stop. Don't. Let someone else find all the flaws in the new platform.

>>102797022
I ain't dropping 300+ bucks on a motherboard if it doesn't at least support two CPU generations.

>>102796573
4060
1440p is the same as 1080p if you run DLSS.
4070 is better, but it will only give 50% more FPS than a 4060 (You need to enjoy console ports like dragons dogma 2 and starfield to start caring).
Low FPS's like 60fps sound bad, but it can feel silky smooth if you just enable a frame limiter (and remember you can play fortnight and most indie games at 200fps with a 4060 on low settings).

>>102797193
1707x960 is not the same as 1080p, its worse.

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Is 3733mhz RAM the 'sweet spot' for Zen 3 CPUs? I ran the benchmark in CP2077 at 3600mhz (base) and then overclocked at 3733mhz and 3833mhz. 3833 was the worst result, then 3600, with 3733 being the best. I had a 4400mhz set at one point and sold it because I was getting worse results in a different benchmark than my 3600mhz set.

>>102797138
Wait for the new memory kits to drop.

>>102796933
That's not a problem, is it? Whenever I looked at any Seasonic PSU, those were also well-regarded. The PSU I'm looking to replace is also a Seasonic and it's been working great, well before I added so much hardware that it ended up being undersized.

>>102797159
8200 CL38 should be mucho gud for ARL and PL- if they keep it in LGA 1851

I am trying to use wake on lan on my pc. I have enabled it in the BIOS and it works, but my PC keeps turning itself back on when it goes to sleep. The only solution I've found so far is turning off wake on lan. I want wake on lan though. Is there a way to fix the sleep problem and keep wake on lan?

>>102797354
It's the windows spyware that wakes it up.

>>102797342
PL will be mobile only, LGA-1851 will only receive one gen, ARL and ARL-refresh.

>>102796573
7800XT mates got one he's using it for 4K though, but he has told me that its actually not half bad just had to lower the settings to high but for 1440p it should be amazing as long as you don't care about gaytracing

I notice a lot of people building pcs actually dont know how to use windows properly and are still using their oudated knowledge from windows 7 on windows 11.

>>102796024
>cpu that burns itself down if you dont baby it 24/7
>intel stability :)
i sitll cant believe what im reading
will cattle ever wake up?

>>102797455
kek this, that post is extremely ironic, pretty sure he is shitposting

>>102797455
It used to just werks before that fiasco, no buggy bios, no USB ports that doesnt work, no slow booting time, no RAM compatibility problems. AMD's problem usually due to shitty motherboard though which is annoying but not critical.

>>102797494
Yeah, totally just werkz because you didn't read about some random crap on the internet. Meanwhile my Z97 mobo toasted my 4790k because it was feeding 1.55V into Vring while displaying a 1.20V reading in the BIOS. Intlel quality and stability.

>>102797483
i guess you were right and got baited really hard juding by the other reply
at least its stlll better than the jewvidia nigger with the ebin slav benchmarks

>>102797525
Had intel from 2500k to 8600k and then 12450H laptop never had any problem. Used to overclock them alot aswell. Zen 2 gave me some headach though.

hello everyone. I'm new to PC building. I'm a lost lamb from Mexico and I have a bout $20,000 MXN to spend for a gaming PC (~$1,000 USD). What's a good combination and a good place to get the part for someone in my range and area?

Can I aim for the 1440p with this budget or am I flying too close to the sun? In the OP's suggestions for GPU it lists an RTX 3060 12 GB, RTX 4060 or RX 6600. in actual practice what's the real difference between them?

Also if I find local sellers who try and sell me already built rigs, what are aspects I should be wary of?

>>102797567
You mean except Spectre and all that fine shitshow, with the accompanying patches which reduced performance here and there.

>>102796748
>Corsair RM1000e
They haven't contracted Seasonic in years.
Corsair's higher-end units are supplied by CWT, RMe seems to be built by HEC.
https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm1000e-gen5-psu-review/

Corsair PSUs are safe though, and they will take care of you if you need an RMA.
The overall build quality & safety standards in mid to high-end PSUs have gone up with ATX 3.x.
Corsair's higher-end units were already exceeding those efficiency and safety standards.

I'd say the PSU, monitor, and memory market is pretty competitive & healthy.

>>102797585
Spectre was a meme and took me 5 min to patch without experiencing any performance lost in every day use. Wasnt it about writing speed for large data or something I dont even remember.

>>102797612
No, it was about private shit being read from memory without permission and it was possible to exploit it via JS in a browser.

>>102797635
The performance hit from that patch I meant. Never felt any different.

>>102797638
Benchmarks show otherwise

any good recommendations for Water cooling equipment? I want to start water cooling my GPU but idk where to start in terms of whats needed

>>102797651
Buy from alphacool, EKWB is shady as fuck, also maintenance work is a bitch.

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>>102797647
And benchmark shows the 8600k still beat anything Ryzen back then in stuffs I cared about.

>>102794279
yes it will be fine

>>102797572
>in actual practice what's the real difference between them?
check benchmarks
>what are aspects I should be wary of?
If they claim they're new, they might not be
If you're okay with used parts (and as such paying used part prices), be wary of the PSU they used, a lot of prebuilt systems will have dogshit PSUs that can basically kill your system, don't use unreliable PSUs so if you don't know what PSU they use, assume you have to buy a new one & take that into account for the cost
>I'm a lost lamb from Mexico and I have a bout $20,000 MXN to spend for a gaming PC (~$1,000 USD).
>Can I aim for the 1440p with this budget or am I flying too close to the sun?
Depends what framerates you're expecting to get at which settings. In the US it's "doable". In Mexico probably a fair bit harder. For example in the US you can get this in your budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kkwPyg but you'll likely be paying a lot more

>>102797311
3733 seems to be the highest "guaranteed" speed for the infinity fabric
many chips can do 3800 but others (like mine) will completely refuse to boot at that speed on any voltage settings
3833-4000 will almost always boot but it will never be stable (performance gets worse and you get WHEA errors in the event log)

>>102797689
The subject of the discussion is Intel's now-long history of major fuckups as opposed to the apparent reputation of "stability" among uninformed retards, not how fast AMD CPUs were at the time.

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Damn I love dlss.

>>102797743
damn i must be retarded cuz i can't tell a difference

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>>102797757
You might be

>>102797778
thought that was like leaves floating in front of the game camera

>>102797790
Leaves leave several metre long trails?

>>102797807
if it gets on the camera prob

>>102797778
>DLSS is superior bro

>>102797811
Then riddle me this anon: who is this not found on any of the other upscalers?

>>102797827
>who
I think we're done here

>>102797833
Yes, typos invalidate criticism.

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I'm not sure if I should ask here or /hsg/ on what recommended modems and routers to buy.

I was thinking of buying a Arris G34 to replace the one my ISP gave me but I hear it's better to buy a modem and router separately so I'm not sure what to get now.

So unfortunately the lancool 216 is sold out in my region. Well at least all the black ones are. What's an alternative? For air cooling and less than $100

>>102797864
GLinet MT6000

>>102797864
Just about anything from tp link as they're boot loader unlocked.

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>>102798030
>>102797864
I have one and it's awesome. Got VLANs and firewall routing with dns and adguard all set up. Recommend flashing pesa's custom build for better 2.4ghz performance.

>>102797525
>Meanwhile my Z97 mobo toasted my 4790k because it was feeding 1.55V into Vring while displaying a 1.20V reading in the BIOS. Intlel quality and stability.
I can't wait for the army of "it works in my machine" drones who don't understand what the issue with Intel even is/was and why overclocking on Intel has sucked for years.
>>102796940
gaytracing is a meme
>>102795681
I like that all of these are shown with the sides off, very time appropriate. The only thing that could make it better would be to have a box fan propped up blowing air into the case like any 00's overclocker would have done.

>>102798163
>with Intel even is/was and why overclocking on Intel has sucked for years.
If your OCing, you basically have no right to stability tho

>>102797525
And don't forget the microcode update on Haswell-E that broke overclocking meaning you were stuck at factory clocks on the very expensive 5960x, 5820k CPUs
Intel 7000-10000 justwerks only because they were skylake+++++

>>102798196
>Intel 7000-10000 justwerks
if you like random reboots
https://www.google.com/search?q=skylake+whea+parity+error

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If I buy a bundle of a b650 mobo and ryzen 9x00 can I ask the store to flash the bios for me?

>>102798283
all AM5 mobos have BIOS flashback

>>102798243
fud. those were annoying to see but didnt cause anything to happen. the only people claiming it was a real issue were those who bought rocketlake and needed to cope with their inferior cpus

>>102798298
>but didnt cause anything to happen
lol right
these are uncorrected errors, "something" was corrupted but it was nothing important if you're lucky
same as people running unstable memory overclocks for months without noticing, eventually it bites you in the ass

>>102798294
I'm a pussy and this is my first pc, do I install the mobo without the cpu and flash it first or do I do everything the same as normal before flashing?

Does Intel force you to ship back in the chips they're replacing right now? I want to see if I can scam a 300 cpu off them

>>102798319
wrong. those are corrected parity errors that only appear as warnings in the event viewer

>>102798341
>do I install the mobo without the cpu and flash it first or do I do everything the same as normal before flashing
it doesn't matter
you don't turn on the PC with the power button when flashing, there's a different button on the back
everything should be described in the manual for your mobo

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>>102798355
Ok

>>102798380
There are video guides too, maybe not for the exact board model but vendor-specific (MSI EZ BIOS flash etc)

>>102798380
Good luck lil anon. It'll all work out!
To answer your original question, most stores that actually work on pcs (aka don't just sell them) will flash motherboards for a small fee or maybe even for free (more likely if you buy it from them), but yeah EZflash is better

>>102798030
>>102798130
>GLinet MT6000
Didn't know about this router, it is supported by openwrt.
My old R7000 with dd-wrt is starting to show its age, might get one.

Should I build my PC on black friday minus the GPU(waiting for the 5070) or should I wait to do it altogether because it may be cheaper or better parts when the 5070 come out?

>>102798348
you have to ship it back first before they can approve the request or in some cases, put down a collateral for a replacement cpu that will only be refunded when your old cpu reaches them

>>102798609
The parts that do get 'cheaper' are older things, good time to check out RAM, SSD, PSU, monitor, keyboard, mouse

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can someone please tell me the difference between these fans and BL103 from them. Which ones do I use for my case?

>>102798609
The 5070 isn't looking to be a very good value (probably will need to wait for the 5070 Super a year later), and >>102798693 is right. So if a really good deal pops up on the GPU or base platform I'd pull the trigger on BF otherwise wait and build the whole thing later. Going piece-meal is a no-man's land strategy.

I love how quiet my all AMD PC is :)

>>102798944
I get the joke. Its because it cant turn on right? XDD

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>>102798863
If it's priced the same as the 4070 with 4070Ti then it may worth 3 months waiting. I'd snatch the 4070S if I find it for less than 550$ tho but it's not likely.

>>102798726
use the cheapest ones

>>102798726
BL103 is a High Speed (HS) variant that tops out @ 2200 RPM.
BL102's maximum speed is 1500 RPM.
I would get the 102 because your case fans shouldn't be spinning at above 1500RPM or even close to that level in most situations.
https://www.bequiet.com/en/casefans/4133
https://www.bequiet.com/en/casefans/4135
Listen to noise samples on YouTube if they're available.

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Someone talk me out of buying this to replace my 3060

>>102799198
Buying a processor every generation is poor value for money.

>>102799198
tbf it is the lowest i would go in the 40 series stack if i were to upgrade
unless you want to use certain nv features or raytracing, the radeon 7000 series typically offers better value

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>>102792403
I think I might be retarded? I ordered CP2K16G56C46U5 because amazog doesn't mention memory timings. apparently it's 5600cl46, which I'm pretty sure is trash. could I get a second opinion?

>>102797708
I see, I see

If I were to keep it 1080p on the 4060 range how would you suggest it? Why does the OP suggests 4060 instead of 4060ti when the benchmarks are better?

>>102792828
with delta fans specifically, the amps on the sticker is for max working voltage (13.2v?), at 12v it's only drawing like 2/3rds of the sticker amps.

Am I a poorfag or how the hell can people afford to upgrade every generation or two? About to build a 3060 computer and hoping to run that to the ground for 10 years.

>>102799260
Absolutely trash
You want your CL timing to be close to the MT/s value divided by 200
So 6000CL30 or in the case of 5600MT/s, CL28

Jesus Christ the Son of God promised all who believe in Him. Will receive the free gift of eternal life. Just ask Jesus for eternal life in heaven. He also promised to heal your body.

Weird A.I slop post

>>102799325
Maybe different priorities & valuation of their hobbies.

>>102797778
>>102797743
What slop is this?
>perf mode
lol

>>102799198
Buying it gives money to ukr*ine

>>102799330
I kind of figured, thanks anon, I will try to be less retarded in the future

>>102799424
buying 10 immediately

>>102799424
buying 10000 soon, I promise (please produce them first)

>>102799538
>>102799554
Might as well just send it straight to isreal

>>102796573
how much are you willing to pay? currently the best bang for your buck is the 7800 xt since they're on sale and you can get them for $400 plus. if you have a microcenter close by go to them since they have better in store deals than online.

>>102798030
>>102798130
Any recommendations for modems?

>>102799605
? russia supports israel

>>102799754
just use the isp provided one unless its suffering from dropouts and whatnot

>>102792403
I'm sitting here with a 5700X and 4060ti 16gb crunching through hundreds of thousands of images, computing their clip embeddings, hashes, doing OCR, etc. I get 5 images/s. I want to buy more computers, but I think I just need to write better code...

>>102799198
>talk me out of
no

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>>102799352

>>102799198
If you have $900 to burn then go ahead

Can a three pin argb fan connector work with a 4 pin argb/rgb fan header? I'm using

>>102800134
Shit I forgot to delete the last part.

>>102799325
jjobs

>>102799260
crucial DDR5 is a scam

>>102792403
I don't know what's going on but for some reason, those ethernet of power adapter's don't seem to be giving me full speeds anymore. It's literally extremely slow that it's borderline unusable.

If I needed to just make my PC wifi wireless again what's the best bang for buck dongle/attachment/part I need?

>>102800134
yes

>>102799424
That's a good thing

>>102800382
they all use the same chinkoid chipset so just get the cheapest one you can find

>>102800443
Thank you!

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Fractal Design warranty is shit. 3/4 of the fans in my case started making loud ass rattling noises after 6 months. They make you do a video demonstrating the noise on each individual fan. Jewy. Just send me the fans that you get for 50 cents a piece.

>meme case is meme case
no way

>>102800382
powerline adapters are hit or miss. i have 4 of the damn things and in my last place (apartment 1970s wiring) they mostly did not /werk/ at all, in my current house which has newer (1980s) electrical wiring they /werk/ until they don't and the red light comes on indicating sub-optimal connection, requiring me to reboot the damn things.

a friend with the exact same adapters has no problems with them in his house with 1960s wiring.

i mothballed two of them and use one to connect my cat picture NAS to it's backup NAS target because I don't give a shit how long my differential backups take to complete.

>highly do not recommend powerline ethernet

>>102800543
you're talking to a chatbot
what the fuck is it going to do with a video

>>102800543
maybe it depends on the country because they just sent the fans to me when i said mine were rattling.

whats the thermal paste application meta?
big dot in center? 5 dots in an x?

>>102800613
Thing is. They used to work very well but then there were some house renovations done (new light installs, new power point, aircon) etc etc

Ever since then the speeds have dropped to <1mbps when before I was getting full speeds

>>102800631
cool S shape

>>102800631
1mm thick layer along the surface. use a laser paint thickness meter to ensure its exactly 1mm, no more no less

>>102800631
using too little is bad
using too much is almost impossible

>>102800632
yep they are sensitive to line noise and good luck getting that figured out.

I have some USB WiFi dongles from Amazon, you can find them in USB 2 and USB 3 flavors for not much money. They work OK for the two mini-PCs I scavenged from the skip that had no WiFi built in.

But if you have a PC spend the money on a good WiFi card with an extended wired antenna you can put on your desk and enjoy.

just run the ethernet cable along the skirting board/bottom of the wall