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Are NVMe's pretty fragile? Going on a flight soon and not sure how to keep it safe in my carryon
Tossed out the package since it came in some card like this
Wonder if I just try to put it in my RAM packaging, kek

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PLEASE HELP I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

I have A LOT of tabs open. a lot. currently 358 on Chrome+1366 on FF. had much more open but had to save and close since the whole system hang. pic related from a year ago for a group of tabs I still haven't revisited because I can't open so many tabs at once.

My browsers keep crashing every other day, (usually chrome first, FF afterwards).
It takes a lot of time to reload all the tabs AND it sends my 4ch old threads to the archives where I can no longer follow and recognize my (You)'s.

I currently have 96GB of RAM which I thought would be enough. 12600 (non k) CPU. 970 Evo SSD.

How can I make sure this doesn't keep happening:
1. Get more RAM (128GB max).
2. Get a new CPU on current mobo - 14700/14900k
3. Get a new CPU on new system - 265K/285K. however that will need new DDR5 DRAM, new socket etc. but these CPU's support 192GB of system memory.

Thanks!!!

>>102802470
i think you could close some tabs

>>102802508
He hasn't learned what bookmarks are. Once the tab is close it is lost to time.

>>102802470
Bookmarks my man

>>102802470
Sar I think you need intel core ultra 285k and 192gb ram to stop issue

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>>102802428
I've placed Phanteks T30 inside Peerless Assassin 120. Waiting for the new CPU to test this combo.

>>102802595
no second fan?

>>102802609
no, T30 should be enough. There will be case fan behind it not far from it. (another T30) And I plan to run CPU in eco mode anyway.

>>102802595
It might be ok, and would save some space.You should try three fans for fun. I don't think I've ever seen that.

>>102802459
just get some corrugated cardboard and fold it in half

>>102802595
nice speakers

Found the Gigabyte X870E Aorus Pro.
It has all the slots and connectors one would need. Why is it so cheap compared to the new? Whats the catch? I heard the audio is subpar and there are some connection issues, but are those just rumors? Have you guys heard anything bad about it?
I want to buy it for the upcoming 9800x3d or the 12 core variant

>>102802717
>or the 12 core variant
well now I know there's something wrong with the motherboard if you like it and are considering that

Need a secondary SSD drive for my pc. Where do I get a very cheap one that's still fairly good? Portable ones seem to be the cheapest, but no clue what's inside.

Whenever I feel like my pc is running like shit in a new game I just boot up cyberpunk and sigh in relief that its not my hardware and the devs cant optimize.

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>>102802717

>>102802801
amazon sells cheap silicon power sata drives. they work.

>>102802839
>everything on the same lanes
I see now. So what should I buy?
The new cards are expensive as fuck. Heard bad things about ASUS tho, was about to buy the Proart one.

Is MSI a good brand for GPUs? Heard that the Ventus line was bad because it shipped with 5% under spec and that the backplate was plastic compared to almost every other one being metal.

>>102803177
MSI isnt a good brand for anything

>>102802883
It might not be a problem for your use case, even flagship cards suffer like single digit degradation going from x16 to x8, but be aware that this is a thing.
I wouldn't bother with X870E at all, X670E will probably drop in price while offering the same features. The only meaningful improvement of X870E is somewhat improved memory speed support and you'd need to wait for Zen 6 to make use of that.

>>102802704
>just get some corrugated cardboard and fold it in half
That's funny. I normally travel with my NVMe taped between the face of two hammers, but each to their own.

>>102803183
They seem ok to me. Which do you prefer, Mother board/GPU wise?

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Reject FSR
Reject XeSS
Reject TSR
Embrace our lord and savior, dlss.

>>102803246
so superior, it really captured those leaves jet trails

600$ poorfag budget build (monitor included)? I dont know what ultra lowend stuff I should buy

>>102803259
stinkpad budget

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>>102803246
>2416x1358 player screenshot of a youtube video
At least use full resolution raw snapshots for your shilling

>>102803259
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NJw6cH
barely

>>102803246
>forced sharpening vs no sharpening

>>102803246
You mean embrace native? No, I won't use your fake frames.

>>102803259
Second hand CPU + RAM + GPU (+ case/monitor if you can find one), new PSU & NVMe drive
Listing off parts is irrelevant because we don't know your local market

If you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO buy new
here you go
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jNvnsh

How does pixel density work? Will games look as shitty on a 42" 4K UHD monitor as on a 27" 1440p monitor, since they have almost the same ppi?

>>102803496
You are supposed to seat much farther from 42" than from 27" making angular pixel density higher.
But then again I'm sitting at arms length from a C2 and just don't care about pixels so ymmv.

>>102803496
The most broad and simplest way increased density manifests is as a form of anti-aliasing. The end goal is for a given screen size and viewing distance to not be able to see any given pixels at all as that would entirely eliminate aliasing (or "jaggies").

>Will games look as shitty on a 42" 4K UHD monitor as on a 27" 1440p monitor, since they have almost the same ppi?
No as while the density is similar 4k is still physically a LOT more pixels which - again in very broad terms - will help in visual clarity for medium and small details.

It must be stressed that correct viewing distance is very important.

>>102803183
their boards are top tier for a few years now, at least they don't break CPUs like Asus

>>102803246
dlss is at version 3.7 and it _still_ has ghosting problems?

>>102803613
>at least they don't (...) like Asus
do you understand how low of a bar assus is at

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>>102803177
>because it shipped with 5% under spec
it's a good thing, you won't get even 0.5% more performance in real scenarios with those 5% clocks but it will drop like 20-50w and 3-5C degrees.
Pre undervolted GPUs when?!

>>102803570
42" 4k is almost exactly the same ppi as 27" 1440

>>102803646
higher than gigashit and assrock

is this a significant upgrade? can barely run silent hill 2, blackmyth wukong, deadlock at decent graphics + fps..
5600x->5700x3D
3070->4070super
or should i just wait and upgrade my whole mobo+cpu to a newer gen and wait for 5000 series gpu?

>>102803654
not really, like at all
youre a really bad MSI shill, way too obvious

>>102803659
>5600x->5700x3D
no.
>3070->4070super
kinda, but not worth it right now, tough it out for 3-5 months for 5070 or 8800XT

>>102803649
Yes, and?
>angular pixel density

>>102803654
did assrock ever in their entire history have motherboard series that exploded, burned, bent or otherwise physically damaged cpus or themselves?

>>102803675
not to my memory but I heard a lot of BIOS complains just like Gigabyte, Asus BIOS is alright-ish but they did burn some stuff
MSI is decent in both aspects for mid range boards, I can't even count how many times I cursed at Gigabyte BIOS

>>102803659
>silent hill 2, blackmyth wukong
two most unoptimized games of the year. SH2 barely works on 4090.

>>102803675
>did assrock ever in their entire history have motherboard series that exploded, burned, bent or otherwise physically damaged cpus or themselves?
They just make boring, functional boards and have had very few "exciting" ones. Their bios also suffers from this having minimal interesting features.
The few exciting asrock boards I know of is the z170m OCF that was top class in memory OC and recently their taichi lite lineup but that's about it.

>>102803659
Don't upgrade jump only one gen, especialy with 50 series around the corner

>>102803659
get 4070 super & you'll be good, don't bother upgrading the cpu unless you're for some reason using 1080p

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>>102803634
Any temporal technology is bad at preserving details of moving scenes/objects and ghosting compared to native

>>102803762
>Don't upgrade jump only one gen, especialy with 50 series around the corner
waitfags gonna cry when they find out 50 series base cards suck absolute dick and they're forced to wait for ti/super again
3070 -> 4070super is a ~50% fps increase in wukong

>>102802470
4. Get a therapist

>>102803794
they will suck if you compare it to 4000s, but if you skipped a generation they will be perfectly adequate.

>>102803659
Silent Hill 2 is a bullshit port. switch it over to vulkan and it should at least be stable. https://youtu.be/40hZYl2gkFA?si=Zk6G7i88AExu7Ye_

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give me ONE reason not to buy the Alienware 32" qdoled instead of the asus/msi/gigabyte for 530€ LESS

how bad is it with consoles if u wanna use 3.5mm audio? don't you just use the controller audio or from the console?

since WOLED coatings are gay, except the single 1440p 240hz asus one and woled is less saturated, qdoled is literally all there is

>>102803659
>>102803865
Also lower shadows to increase frames.

>>102803825
>they will suck if you compare it to 4000s, but if you skipped a generation they will be perfectly adequate.
You're not going to get a big improvement for the money comparing like 5060 or 5070 to 4070super

>>102803191
I want proper USB-4, thunderbolt und USB-C suppor ttho.
Seems like I should make a gamble and buy the mobo
Are there any good alternatives

>>102802470
Geeze my 100-200 tabs taken up 48GB max of my 64GB and my friends call me insane. Get OneTab but also, you have my sympathies. Why have a monster machine if it isn't gonna keep all this shit at the ready for you? I did see some Core Ultra boards mentions 256GB support but I don't think we have 64GB DDR5 dimms readily available yet. 192 should do the trick and faster and more cores will help too. I've gotten my 7950X at 50-70% usage handling chrome and 48gb ram taken during heavy research sessions.

>>102803982
>>102802470
I used to run thousands of tabs on my old shit cpu and 8gb ram without crashing at all
I suggest stop being mentally ill and clearing out all garbage instead of cultivating trash
this is a direct reflection of your life and mental state
(so far I'm failing too)

>>102803878
The Dell AW3225QF has a 1700R curved screen that introduced geometric distortion whereas the others are pure flat. Your tolerance for that may be a deciding factor, IDK.

>>102803794
>waitfags gonna cry when they find out 50 series base cards suck absolute dick and they're forced to wait for ti/super again
The time to buy 40 series cards was over a year ago, by now the 4080/90 is out of stock. They're deliberating limiting supply of last-gen parts beyond the xx60 class this time.
>>102803974
What do you suggest people upgrading from a 3060 Ti/3070 that they likely overpaid for do then?

>>102803246
I'm so fucking sick and tired of upscaler slop being used to correct bad TAA implementations or lack of optmization in pure raster titles. The only reason why DLSS exists was to help with memetracing performance but we still don't have fully path traced titles outside of retro game mods.

>>102802470
Chrome can't save history beyond 90 days without hacks, you can only use bookmarks there. Firefox and its derivatives save full history by default.

Bookmark stuff into categories, save the most important HTMLs.

>>102804304
Do you actually know what a 1700R curve looks like in person?

7600X + 4070S a good combo if I'm upgrading from 7300HQ + 1060 3GB (mobile)? I could stretch and get the 4070 TiS but I'm not sure if it's really needed.

i had an empty PC case in storage for a while and it developed a little rust, is it safe to put together a PC into said case or would it extend to the other parts? should i treat the rust with sandpaper and some antioxide chemicals?

>>102803659
Maybe other anons can chime in but if you're looking for longevity won't the 5700x3d provide that? Assuming you're playing at 1440 itll only help in cpu limited games and reduce 1% lows, but when you get a better card should help hit higher frames

>>102804400
Buy a 4070(ti) super
It doesn't matter what gen a card is in. If 600$ gives you the same performance in a 4070 super and a 5070, you aren't smart for waitfagging.
You can wait until benchmarks come out and then decide, but maybe Nvidia will have fucked people over at that point and stocks will have basically ran out, increasing prices

My advice is to not be a retard and buy shit value cards, which is what the 40 series based cards were/are, just like the 3060 non ti, just like the 50 series cards will most likely be

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>>102802428
pls r8 for budget gaming

>>102804832
why did you pick 207?

>>102804304
if all were the same price this would matter yes
but we are talking 1600€ vs 1050€ here
is getting the same panel but flat worth 550€?
I can go and buy a free PS5 for the difference

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Guys, picrel is my PSU

Do I need to upgrade PSU to run a 5080 paired with a 12700K? How many PCIE power cables do I need to plug into a 12VHPWR adapter to sleep care free (probably getting the wireview pro).

Are PCIE power cables ok 3 ok?
Is a single cpu power cable ok for the 12700k?

Maybe I'm paranoid but I want to know for sure

>>102804889
bc someone told me to and price looked good

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I made some money sports betting yesterday, what are the best 140mm case fans to buy ?

ideally $30 a fan max. I see the new noctua 140mm is going for $40

>>102804950
bet some more so you can afford the noctua

Reminder that amd gpus are unsalvageable trash and any retard who tells you otherwise is an amdrone, shareholder or both, whom tries to scam you.

>>102804955
I already have a bunch of noctua fans desu. I was hoping to get some other brand.
it's like have a garage of porsches, I would like a bmw m-class instead.

>>102804832
for $1200~ that looks solid

>>102804832
Why did you grab 970 evo plus? You'll be fine with a cheaper NVMe or alternatively get 2tb for that price
other than that looks decent
you could probably get another PSU that's equivalent quality for like 10-20$ less but not a massive factor

Are cheap slow high capacity nvme drives a thing yet?
I have an empty 2.0 nvme-only slot in an old motherboard.

>>102804910
NTA
>bc someone told me to
don't pick cases because "someone told you to"
just pick a few you like the look of and then ask/research which work well
Not saying that one is bad, I don't know shit about cases, just saying getting a case off a light recommendation is stupid

>>102804901
>Do I need to upgrade PSU to run a 5080 paired with a 12700K?
5080 is not out, is not announced, nobody actually knows how much power it will draw. You have also not even mentioned what the max power rating of the unit is, how the fuck is anyone supposed to answer this question?
>How many PCIE power cables do I need to plug into a 12VHPWR adapter to sleep care free
Plug in all the connectors the adapter takes. I've seen such adapters with 3 or 4 PCIe 8-pin power connectors. If you have the typical kind of PCIe power cable which has 2 8-pin connectors per cable, that means 2 cables per adapter.

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What are some common GPU myths and pieces of misinformation that you'd wish die off already?

For me, it's
>the 3090/4090 is a Titan-replacement
>the GEFORCE 3090/4090 is not for gaming
>inflation is solely responsible for increasing GPU prices
>DLSS is better than native
>the xx60 cards are midrange

>>102805006
swapped the 970 for this nvme https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2x4Ycf/teamgroup-mp44l-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk001t0c101

the be quiet psu is cheaper but the cables are super thick

>>102805012
if you aren't buying during special sales no
also the new mem chips have not hit yet with the new 16tb nvmemes

>>102805141
>any gpu except the **90 will have a perf(/price) increase

>>102803978
Practically all X870E board will have that PCIe lane layout.
The product spec sheets usually disclose the details.
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/proart/proart-x870e-creator-wifi/techspec/

Linking that board to show you even productivity-focused boards have the same PCIe restrictions.
These just have faster network speed and more USB ports.

>>102805221
ty for the answer anon. I'll just get myself the Gigabyte one, if all now released x870 boards have this layout. FIngers crossed my ports arent trash

>>102805141
that $1000 is a lot of money

>>102804461
> 7600X + 4070S a good combo if I'm upgrading from 7300HQ + 1060 3GB (mobile)?
Yes that’s good, especially if the price between the 7600 and 7600X is insignificant.
You’re paying a bit more to avoid the possibility of owning the shittiest 7600.
4070 Super is fine if you’re willing to work around some of the shitty PC ports, or don’t play them.
Very few games + specific settings require over 12GB VRAM at 1440p.

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>>102805081
>5080 is not out, is not announced, nobody actually knows how much power it will draw
400W, 12VHPWR
>You have also not even mentioned what the max power rating of the unit is
750W
>If you have the typical kind of PCIe power cable which has 2 8-pin connectors per cable, that means 2 cables per adapter.
This is what I want to avoid to make sure my GPU doesn't turn into a fire hazard, since manufacturers recommend 1 cable per connector

>>102805141
>>the GEFORCE 3090/4090 is not for gaming
that's correct though
If you're just gaming, you shouldn't get a 4090 because you're basically telling nvidia you're a cheap and easy fuck and they can do whatever the fuck they want to you

>>102805330
>geforce

>>102805333
If you're not using it to make money, you're basically just slobbering nvidia's cock and you're likely in these threads 24/7 defending nvidia
Shrimple as that

>>102805402
if it wasn't meant for gayming then it wouldn't be gimped for non-gayming tasks

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>>102802508
I really can't.

>>102802531
>>102802528
>>102804429
> you can only use bookmarks there
Already have too many bookmarks saved and categorized and I never visit them because it's cluttered and it doesn't tell me the date saved. In session buddy it tells you the date, time so I can remember the sessions clearly.

Can you just tell me which component in principle is more critical for this type of workload? more cores or more RAM? CPU is always at 100% and Ram at 90%.
Maybe a server CPU with ridiculous amount of cores?

>>102804052
There's important shit there

>>102805333
One of the bigger mistakes Nvidia has made is getting rid of the low-end professional GPU family and rolling it into the Geforce brand.

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are the 30mm Thicc fans worth the extra size ?

>>102805451
Generally only for mounting on radiators or for jet engine use cases.

>>102805413
it's not gimped for non-gayming tasks

>>102805501
>fp16 ops running at half the native rate
>memory capacity and bandwidth is gimped

>>102805319
3x 8pin PCIe cables for the card, 2x 8-pin for the 12700K
The second CPU power header may or may not be needed, depends on the motherboard.
You should not OC the CPU and set the PL1/PL2 power limit to 150W if you’re going to try using 1 cable.

Seasonic sells a 2x8pin to 12VHPWR / 12V-2x6 power cable, including angled.
Check if it works with your unit.
This is the best way, the cable can deliver up to 600W rated spec.
https://seasonic.com/12vhpwr-cable/
90 degree variant, it will limit the type of card you can buy because manufacturers didn’t follow one consistent standard.
You are left with ASUS cards if you use seasonic 90 degrees unless you want to set the cable to run over the card’s backplate.

I’m rambling but you will know when you fucked up.

>>102805330
>If you're just gaming, you shouldn't get a 4090
imagine buying the 50% cut down **80 class
imagine waiting 2 years to get no perf uplift instead of just literally FLIPPING burgers (protip money is free)
amd will have zero alternatives either
you will just suffer for years with sub optimal 4k perf and no perf games in terms of vidya all for a measly 2000 buckaroos
in fact, the 5090 is the ONLY gpu worth buying
well depends if you play AAA slop and 4k
if you play esports and shit a 4070 sweetspot will probably be enough
4k and 8k got us locked in on the 5090 forever now and jensen is going in dry or lubed, your choice

>>102805438
>There's important shit there
your coomer tabs aren't that important and 4chin threads aren't either

>>102805822
>imagine buying the 50% cut down **80 class
imagine paying double for maybe 20% better performance
How much of a cuck do you have to be?

Is $1800 for a used 4090 with warranty a good price in Europe?

>>102805976
Depends on local market, in my part of the European woods, people are offering up to 1300-1400€ with several listings at 1500/1600/1700.
I'd say it's a "fair" price, but I'd try to offer 1500 to get a feel for things and maybe go up to 1600 to feel it out

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>>102802428
I just got the 7800X3D, my first ever AMD build since I’ve been using the i7-8700 all this time. Quick question: Is there a to-do list for setting up an AMD CPU? Like any tweaks in the BIOS, RAM, or CPU settings

>>102806078
Update the board BIOS to the latest stable version, you can do this after successfully booting up.
If the initial boot is taking a while, wait 5-10 min. It’s most likely to be the first time memory training.

>>102806101
Then what?

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>>102802595
whhhhrrrrrrrr

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>>102806078
google 'buildzoid timings guide', most expo configs are shit

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>>102805822
>and 4chin threads aren't either
they're extremely important I have hundreds of unread (You)'s in there

Is there ANY hope for 7800X3Ds to be back in stock and be discounted when 9800X3D releases?

>>102806246
I'll probably sell mine and upgrade to a 9800x3d. i'm sure there will be a lot of them on the used market.
No one really overclocks these cpus via increasing the voltage so they should be safe to buy used.

I... I might have slept through last few years. Would someone kind Anon briefly explain the current situation with PC building to me?

>>102806342
everything sucks, everyones main competition is themselves from 3-5 years ago.

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How the fuck is the Quadro/RTX 6000 Ada scoring lower than the 4090 in OptiX rendering when it has almost 10 extra TFLOPs of theoretical performance? Memory speed? Power limits? Optimization? Drivers?

Did workstation users literally get scammed?

>>102806372
>Max Power Consumption 300 W

My AM4 motherboard just died but I don't intend to upgrade yet, what should I replace it with? Got a 5700X3D and I don't intend to overclock it, I just want something reliable.

>>102805952
4070/Super/TiSuper are like 50/60/70 of a 4090
some people don't wanna cope for 2 years until the next gen is dropped, it takes you faster to acquire 1k burgerbux additionally than it takes to wait 2 years for price performance to drop down
literally earn more money, it's free
don't get me wrong, I am a poorfag, and hopefully won't be for long, and I despise all poorfags, just flip the burgers
daily reminder that life is finite and you WILL die and you will be obsolete in no time, how much of your life won't be raytraced? and how much will you miss out on premium gaymen experiences?
I say this 100% unironically without being a goy consoomer
you. must. earn. money. NOW.

>>102805976
no

>>102806195
>frequency ccd
>prolly avg fps not min fps shown
if you buy a x3d and start doing manual timings instantly, you fucked up
nothing less worth to do in your life than to do this

>>102806200
based schizo

>>102806342
buy a 7800X3D (or a 14900k if you intend to manually tune with 8000mhz ram and fully tune subtimings and the entire cpu + disable ecores to reach slightly higher fps in games, protip you won't) + 4090 + a 4k 240hz QDOLED or KYS, but if you are this wait for the 5090

or if you are a poor buy a 7500f/7600 and the best gpu you can afford and a 200dollar IPS 165hz 1440p monitor

tldr either you build a 1k rig or a 5k rig

>>102806246
they stock multiple times a week
just keep an eye on it

>>102806557
>don't get me wrong, I am a poorfag, and hopefully won't be for long
May you get paid for your shilling soon, my friend
I pray for you

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noctua NH-C14S+7800x3d, good or bad idea?

>>102806702
you'll be fine, little guy
enjoy

>>102806702
That will probably throttle boost performance.
Check Noctua’s compatibility page.

based on my basic research, the new 140mm noctua fan is the best.... I guess $40 it is.

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>>102806342
The more you spend, the more you save.

trust me.

>>102802470
Chrome/Google got jeeted. You just have to roll with a low tab-count (unfortunately).
I hate jeets so much for this...

>>102804052
>I used to run thousands of tabs on my old shit cpu and 8gb ram without crashing at all
Literally the same. Had no problem with Mac OS X 10.6 with hundreds of tabs open. Fucking incompetent jeets fucked everything...

>>102802470
get some meds to fix your ocd.

>>102805822
>coomer tabs
Completely irrelevant to the issue at hand.
Chrome should not, under any circumstance, struggle with thousands of tabs open since all background tabs can be suspended to disc (provided sufficient storage is available). This is extremely poor design on behalf of the mentally insufficient jeets working at google.

Given that you can buy both for around 130 USD which should I go for 5700X3D or 12600KF? Upgrade paths are tricky on Intel atm and non-existent on AM4 but if Intel have indeed fixed whatever problems they had then it could be better. Use case is a purely gaming PC for a family member

>>102805438
I'M NOT ASKING AGAIN MOTHERFUCKER. CLOSE THOSE FUCKING TABS.

would a Thermalright Assassin X120 Refined SE be enough to cool the 7800x3d? its what i already have

>>102806342
Sure hope you were awake for AM4 launch because nothing too important happened since so if you are poor you can just update your B350 bios and shove in a 5700x3d to forget about upgrading for another couple years.

>>102806372
>Did workstation users literally get scammed?
"Workstation" aka corporate "customers" always pay more for less.

>>102806924
I also want to know this. I have the same cooler but looking to upgrade to a 5800x3d

>>102802459
imagine not knowing about ESD and "latent failure" in 2024

>>102806942
>>102806557
>>102806361
Thank you for a feedback, but I'm more interested in a bigger picture, like anyone still uses HDD or did they ultimately lose to SSD? Anyone still uses CD/DVD drivers? Did Intel finally make a GPU that doesn't suck? (Speaking of Intel, what's wrong with 13/14 series?) Why are graphic cards so motherfuckingly huge?

>>102807036
>like anyone still uses HDD or did they ultimately lose to SSD
HDD is still king for bulk storage because 20+TB SSDs are far future. For gaymes and OS you want SSD tho.

>>102806342
pick a reasonable budget for what you want to do and stick with it or you'll be finding yourself buying shit you don't need. stay away from intel for now and pick your poison for whatever gpu you want. nvidia is the safe bet when it comes to everything. amd support has grow but still frustrating to use for the tech illiterate.

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>>102806862
Yes and every time it crashes and you restart it it auto updates and becomes even shittier.

>>102806891
I already take NAC and a bunch of other stuff.

>>102806915
NO.

>Buying a 7 7800X3D when the upgrade is right around the corner
Do people really

>>102807035
wrong you or?

Modular PSUs are supposed to be better but really I ended up using almost the same amount of cables

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>>102807036
>like anyone still uses HDD or did they ultimately lose to SSD?
NVMe SSD for speedy OS operations, HDD for cheap long term cat picture storage

>uses CD/DVD drivers
not on purpose

>Intel finally make a GPU that doesn't suck
ehhhh not quite, the Arc lineup looks good if you get a high-end one for cheap and don't /gayme/ much but they aren't competitive to AMD/NV (and aren't good for upgrading "vintage" older compooters)

>(Speaking of Intel, what's wrong with 13/14 series?)
oh lawd you been asleep a long time kek

>Why are graphic cards so motherfuckingly huge?
you can still get compact single-slot cards but if you want a "good" card then it's going to be embiggened

>>102807187
Weak hands must be shaken out so that true waitbros can profit.

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>>102807225

>>102807187
something else is always right around the corner

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>>102802459
>>102807035
>>102807225
>>102807414

>>102807414
Are you replying to the wrong person?
The risk of ESD large enough that it's an issue should be about the same as the plane crashing, no?
I guess I could put it in an antistatic bag from some other component but that seems like it'd make it a massive hassle to try & pack, especially if I then want to put it between some cardboard like the other anon said.
Thought people tested that shit out and found it's effectively impossible to accidentally destroy modern consumer PC parts through accidental static discharge, which is the whole reason the wrist straps are a meme

>>102806583
I will flip the burgers

>>102806912
12600kf requires heavy ram tuning and oc'ing to match it, as always
so if you are running potato settings the x3d wins out of box easily
neither if you are building new though just build am5 with a 7500f or something and slot in a 19800X3D at the end

>>102807036
>like anyone still uses HDD
no, unless you need server like storage you can run ssd for your slop storage since even a 8tb sata is cheap enough on sales

>Anyone still uses CD/DVD drivers?
did not use one 15 years ago, still don't

>Did Intel finally make a GPU that doesn't suck?
the Arc gpus have been some of the best in terms of price/perf BUT you have horrendous drivers even worse than AMD

>Speaking of Intel, what's wrong with 13/14 series?
single core boost clocks pumping too much volts into cpus (like mobo manufacturers have been as always), not a problem for manual tuners running manual volts, stock cucks got railed up the ass with instability
also e cores are known to cause stutters and random shit like that so for gayming you should not run them either
new cpus need fixing just to avoid basic problems pretty much

>Why are graphic cards so motherfuckingly huge?
need to cool the 600w's

>>102807187
no point in building anything before a 5090 drops at this point

>>102807483
the only thing relevant is the jensen drops, cpus are stalled, the only upgrade you will get is a **90 card
2 years is not always around the corner

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGNHggz8BdI

Till to this day people havnt realised this is actually one of the best graphical feature to be ever made maybe before ray tracing.I literally bought a rtx 40series gpu n switched back to amd as no amount of dlss or dlaa or 4k makes images so good compared to this period

>>102807508
>Thought people tested that shit out and found it's effectively impossible to accidentally destroy modern consumer PC parts through accidental static discharge, which is the whole reason the wrist straps are a meme

>maybe it's my training from work where we are super anal retentive about this stuff and have to wear ESD safe shoes and smocks and stuff. we literally have to take a training course on ESD safety that talks about how an ESD hit on a component can induce a "latent" failure mode where the device seems fine but under real-world use it fails earlier then it's predicted lifetime. for us it is literally human life at risk so...

>At least maybe put it into an ESD safe baggie or something.

>>102807576
>>maybe it's my training from work where we are super anal retentive about this stuff and have to wear ESD safe shoes and smocks and stuff. we literally have to take a training course on ESD safety that talks about how an ESD hit on a component can induce a "latent" failure mode where the device seems fine but under real-world use it fails earlier then it's predicted lifetime. for us it is literally human life at risk so...
what's that from? sounds like it'd be for plane shit or whatever
"earlier than its predicted lifetime" isn't much of a worry for me
>At least maybe put it into an ESD safe baggie or something.
Issue is the smallest one I'd have is the GPU one

> RTX 5090
> 265K

Yep, its gamin time

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmMcZJ

retard here i checked the op, and the 3060 12/4060 are basically the same price but which in theory will age better?
also as a rule of thumb 3 fans on gpu are better than 2 even if the company that produces the latter is more reputable right?

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>>102807654
>what's that from
pic related

>>102807666
>also as a rule of thumb 3 fans on gpu are better than 2 even if the company that produces the latter is more reputable right?
everyone makes shit models & most also make good models
>retard here i checked the op, and the 3060 12/4060 are basically the same price but which in theory will age better?
4060 is significantly better
How are 4060ti/3060ti/7700xt prices in comparison?

How useful is PWM on fans? The Arctic P12 from OP comes in two packages one without PWM for 20 and other with PWM for 34

>>102807654
>"earlier than its predicted lifetime" isn't much of a worry for me

forgot to tag that, instead maybe i should put in laymans terms: it will one day randomly shit the bed and you won't understand why

>>102807793
>it will one day randomly shit the bed and you won't understand why
isn't that everything, though
I've had a HDD & GPU stop working and I don't understand why

What is the best gen 5 NVME?

>>102807666
>3 fans on gpu are better than 2
Bro you're talking about a 3060 LMFAO.

>>102806195
How do i understand these charts ;(

>>102807830
Team Group T-Force Z540

>>102806444
cheapest msi board you can get away with

>>102807788
Very useful, I always go for pwm. Except the rear exhaust I want always on so I just got a non-pwm P120 silent.

>>102807788
cheap motherboards can only control pwm fans
good motherboards have direct voltage control mode

>>102807923
like it will auto adjust voltage in the same way as pwm? I didn't know that's a thing now

>>102802470
tab suspender

>>102807782
>3060ti
basically non existent if you want new and like a 20% more in the used market which i try to avoid
>4060ti
100 or so more burger than the 4060
>7700xt
Due to issues 3 years ago with having to fix a relative that had a 590 over and over i rather not mess with amd if possible

>>102807954
>>102807923
voltage control has been around for a long time for 3 pin fans. the fans spin based on how much electricity you pump through them and different fans are rated for different power so it varies.

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>he boughted a 5800X3D

>>102808012
>100 or so more burger than the 4060
is that for an 8gb or 16gb model?
If it's 16gb, I'd see if you can fit the budget for that
It seems to perform about 20% better for the money & has more vram so you don't have to worry about being limited by that basically ever.
>Due to issues 3 years ago with having to fix a relative that had a 590 over and over i rather not mess with amd if possible
Fair enough, but just in case, how much would it be?

drop good psu for quad cpu
i have double cpu socket motherboard and 2x tesla gpu
the tesla gpu take esp cables
pls help

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>>102807993
Chrome already automatically suspends tabs unless you add the parent domain to the exclusion list.

>>102808057
Sure did, my R5 1600 started lagging the mp 200 years into a 1000-star game in Stellaris.
Now I can go for well over 500 years with no slowdown.

>>102802470
disable hw acceleration. each tab basically pings your gpu and eventually the nvidia driver crashes the browser.

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>>102807862
>mfw there's literally zero MSI AM4 boards in stock in my shithole country
Are used boards generally ok?

>>102806444
any cheap B550 will work
>>102808151
a new asus, gigabyte, or asrock board is better than a used msi board

>>102808151
just go with a different manufacturer
>b-but
don't be a sheep

>>102808142
I switched to the onboard iGPU because the dedicated one does not have enough memory and it would stall even with 30 tabs open, especially during video playback. When you use the integrated one it uses the system memory as vram.

>>102808322
its not vram or ram related. its the graphics driver literally timing out when you use hw acceleration with so many tabs.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn4r8qPtNUU

>>102808372
no one buys amd cards to generate fake frames
i assume the radeon marketing team literally thinks the reason they have 10% marketshare is because they don't have enough gimmicks

>>102808399
>ctrl+f
>radeon
>1 result
way to out yourself as a obsessed retard

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>>102808372
AMD Won.
Nvidia Lost.

>>102808406
what the fuck are you talking about
i'm responding to an amd marketing video

I'm confused on amd cards and generating AI images. A lot of old comments comments from 6 + months ago say don't even bother with AMD video cards because of that but I see a ton of videos saying you can get AI generating as fast as nvidia.

Who's right?

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>>102808351
It's off since forever.
Since I didn't get any meaningful answers here I garner it's mostly RAM issue and lack of cores.
Will upgrade to 285K and 192GB with 4x48GB DDR5 CUDIMM 9200 MT/s sticks once they're out.
Cheers.

>>102808429
who cares? you're gonna get bored of generating AI shit after 2 hours

>>102808435
Stop using Windows and the problem doesn't occur because DirectX is flawed at a browser level.

>>102808429
Nobody buys a GPU for AI anymore unless they're generating child porn. You're like 2 years late to this shit. They use a online AI service thats cheaper and faster and can be done anywhere even your phone.

>>102808429
it was true then and somewhat now. a lot of work as been done. the 7000 and 8000 series will be AI capable once the software becomes comparable with the hardware enabling the use of its AI cores.

>>102808466
>Nobody buys a GPU for AI anymore unless they're generating child porn.
What's the point? Just use a Bing https://files.catbox.moe/ijobe6.jpeg

Should I update bios?

>>102808515
Upgrading Intel BIOS creates mustard gas
Updating AMD Agesa is required

>>102808435
>>102808451
The solution is to stop using Chromium-based browsers.
Nvidia has (or had) graphics-accelerated Chromium issues in their driver "known issues" list for fucking ages
I've never once seen anything similar for Firefox from Nvidia's side

>>102808538
firefox uses its own rendering api thats not angle. its slower than chrome but it has less bugs so pick your poison.

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is it worth dealing with 5-10 second black screen alt tabs for above 144hz 4k on oleds due to the nvidia dsc bug?

or

is the C4 42" LG now at 144hz still viable as a monitor? that is the question....

would be sweet to get built in speakers+larger screen area, it's on sale too, idk anymore

I will buy an Arrow Lake.

>>102808625
Thanks for funding Panther Lake and Nova Lake for me

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>>102808596
>I don't have enough goybux in my account to consoom the sale
nevermind, it's over
I will wait until black friday and cope and rope

>>102808399
>i assume the radeon marketing team literally thinks the reason they have 10% marketshare is because they don't have enough gimmicks
that's literally the reason you retard
there's no other reason to buy an nvidia card

>>102807560
RIS (well, CAS) is just a fancy sharpening filter at heart. Very good for what it is but it absolutely is limited in scope.

>>102808707
ah yes, the reason why amd drivers are terrible is because "HYPR-RX" doesn't have enough "features"
whatever the fuck that is

>>102808802
It's black magic is what it is. It turns all TAA blur games into looking better than DLSS.

>>102808872
>amd drivers are terrible
Making shit up and expecting people to believe it doesn't exactly work, anon. 970 was the worst driver experience I've ever had across 4 GPUs

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>>102808919
amd drivers are objectively terrible
at least on windows, i use linux so it's not my problem, but it should be AMD's problem
they genuinely don't seem to understand why their GPU sales are so poor

shit like this doesn't happen on NVIDIA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s
or rather, if it does, it's fixed in 1-2 days by either the game developer or NVIDIA, because NVIDIA has a 90% marketshare and most of the users are looking for any excuse to switch

>>102803634
No it's not. That game's version is 3.5 and it autodefaults to preset A which is garbage. It looks normal with preset C.

>>102808625
>>102808630
Anon can just sell it later if he wants a better lake
also have a feeling tha ARL will OC very well

>>102808974
>they genuinely don't seem to understand why their GPU sales are so poor
But my raw rasterization that looks worse than DLSS upscaling!

>>102809224
bot reply
no one cares about upscaling
no one cares about AFMF
most people aren't spending hours comparing still frames from digital foundry videos

they want to buy a card that plays the games they care about at a high FPS for a low price
AMD provides that in theory, but then you try to play the latest AAA game and it blackscreens on you because AMD takes months to put out "game ready" drivers
or you try to play some semi-obscure minecraft mod and the game crashes because it was only tested on NVIDIA
or you try to play a game from 2001 and it's broken because AMD rewrote their DX8 driver five times since the game came out
this is how you get normal customers swearing off your products for decades and recommending NVIDIA to all their tech illiterate friends

>>102808974
>dev fucks something up for AMD because they're bribed by nvidia
>gets fixed right after launch anyway
>blames AMD for it
Ah yes, classic case of AMD drivers being terrible
???

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>>102809283
>no one cares about upscaling
Sure thing bud.

>>102809331
>because they're bribed by nvidia
lol yeah right
i know what gameworks was and this isn't it
>gets fixed right after launch anyway
it took one month to fix (24.9.1)
if NVIDIA had a bug like that, it would be fixed in 24 hours
>blames AMD for it
it doesn't matter
if you buy the AMD card, it was bugged out for a month
>>102809350
right, people just buy the cheapest NVIDIA card they can get away with because they know it works and will continue to work in the future
they aren't running 4K OLED monitors and pixel peeping instead of playing the game (like you)

>>102809350
>4060s top 3 of 5 spots
youtubers punching air rn
userbenchmark wins agan

>>102809394
More people are playing on 4090s than any single AMD card. Sad times.

>>102809394
>poorfags and walmart pre-builts
Yes and?

>>102809428
You mean the customers amd is literally basing all of RDNA4 on capturing. When their "bestselling" (if you can call it that) RDNA3 card was the 7900XTX, which you don't own? LOL.

Won't work. They'll all buy the 5060. Stick to playstations AMDrone

>>102809447
>reading comprehension

>>102809473
>seething comprehension
Radeon retard better hope Lisa doesn't see that Ryzen APU has made Radeon garbage even more obsolete than it already is

Nobody buys uses or cares about Radeon except Sony lolololol

>>102803659
Get a 70tisuper or 80super

>>102809350
>3090 not even on the list
grim
the mining/covid/ai cataclysms really did a number on gamers, huh?

Ayo bros I want to buy a cheap B650 board but they only have 4 SATA ports. Is there any downside in using PCIE SATA adapter together with 2 nvme SSDs? I don't care about speed on SATA HDDs I just need them to work.

>>102809534
>https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
It's way down there.

>>102809350
It’s like saying people bought intel because of cpu degradation
It’s just mainstream to go nvidia, even if they fail for several gens compared to intel/amd the top will be the same for a long time

is the lian li a3 the smallest case that can fit a tower cooler?

>>102809574
NVIDIA only fails at price, and that will never change at 90 percent market share. AMD just said fuck it and fucked off. They are trying to compete with 4060 series now, which is NVIDA's most popular card, and not even trying on the top end.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/7800x3d-with-gigabyte-x670-aorus-elite-ax-green-screen-crashes-without-error-messages.327603/

All AMD again

>>102809670
The green screen is telling you to buy NVIDIA.

>>102809670
retard OC'd wrong

>>102809622
Right now everyone is delivering a meh deal
>that will never change at 90 percent market share
It’s 77,7, fails are irrelevant for a short time, they can afford to suck for several gens with barely any change.
For example Intel is still at 66% after several years of AMD being competitive in CPU sector, even after degradation story it’ll barely change, because people just got used to Intel and people don’t like trying “new” stuff, same for Nvidia

>>102809742
Well AMD is pulling out of the high end market. If you don't have a flagship you are irrelevant. That quite sucks for everyone.

>>102809670
>>102809711
he's using a SN770 SSD which is broken on Windows
https://community.wd.com/t/windows-24h2-wd-blue-screens/297867

>>102809778
>is pulling out of the high end market
They did the same stuff already, 5xx and 5xxx
>If you don't have a flagship you are irrelevant
Nah

>>102809856
Yes.

>>102809778
good, fuck the high end, just streamers & cucks there anyway
>>102809742
>>102809622
I wonder what the sales percentages for actual GPUs look like

>>102809912
Post your 4090

>>102809919
This >>102809350

should I upgrade to Am5 now? I have a 5700x. i can save the money but if I don't spend it on computer shit im probably gonna buy videogames or something else entirely. I only need a motherboard, ram and processor to get a full am5 build going.

Realistically speaking is there a huge difference between the 3060ti and 4060ti if I don't care about graphixmaxxing? I'm too poor for anything more than 4060ti and I need nvidia for work.

>>102809951
Oh wow, I didn't know 3.6% of all gpu sales last month was the GTX 1650

>>102809952
Put the money in crypto or whatever instead and just leave it for a few years

>>102804832
Get a 3 fan gpu

>>102809992
You look at the new cards and compare you dumb ass.

>>102809369
>lol yeah right
Literally an Nvidia sponsored game

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Dragging my feet on this, but as a 1080p PC, it's done. But I'm still thinking of a new card for solid 1440p gaming. The case is different, since PCPP doesn't list Okinos cases.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FJ9NkJ

>>102810087
Wrong CPU.

Correct:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ftfPyg

upgraded my rig for simracing and my new cpu is listed as overpriced in the OP. is it really that bad?

>>102809988
>for work
what kinda work?

>no one regrets getting the newer card in the long run

>>102810104
The OP is often hilariously biased and wrong.

>>102810103
dumbass

>>102810119
yes.

nvidia driver issues fuck...

>>102810109
>what kinda work?
Video editting.
>no one regrets getting the newer card in the long run
That is true...

>>102810116
from 5600x/3060ti to 7800x3d/4070ti-s, i went from a 4k60 tv to triple 1440p165hz. i don't think i'll have any trouble getting good fps with the upgrade

>>102810155
Sounds good. If you're getting the results you want, don't listen to other people.

Also, give me your 3060ti
>>102810103

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>>102809369
>running 4K OLED monitors and pixel peeping
based nvidia studio driver users unite

>here, upscale this RTX brother

>>102810104
it's currently overpriced most of the time
Cheapest RN is like 140 over the price it often sells for when restocked & like 200 over what it was half a year ago

>>102810087
>>102810103
Yeah that thing needs a new gpu
Even a 7600 is 30-50% better

Will AM5 support Zen6? About to pull the trigger on the Taichi Lite

>>102810196
>Yeah that thing needs a new gpu
I was on a $800 budget and I had the GTX 1080 laying around. But, you're right. It's THIS close to 1440p gaming.

>>102810202
>We wanted to clarify one of the comments made on stage during the engineering roundtable. During the session Joe made a comment about four generations of CPU support on the AM5 platform. This was meant to be a hypothetical to prompt discussion around designing a platform that spans multiple years and generations, as opposed to starting with a fresh platform each time.

>As announced at Computex, we remain committed that the AM5 platform will be supported through 2027 .

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>>102810149
are you using a dedicated board to run the editing?

>kek i don't even know if thats a thing any more
>have fun editing your home movies, anon

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>>102810202
Most likely yes:
https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd-commits-to-am5-support-through-2027-and-beyond/

AM6 won't come out until DDR6 is ready.

>>102810104
you having fun with the upgrade?

>all that matters, anon

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>>102809447
Kind of crazy that the 7900 XTX is the highest RX 7000 series card in the Steam survey. Who are these retards?

>>102809283
>no one cares about upscaling
Strongly disagree. Most people are using reconstruction these days, and if you already have any relatively recent Nvidia card you can test out FSR and judge its (bad) quality. Or if you're forced to use FSR on a 1070 or something, you can easily tell that it's bad and you'll FOMO over DLSS

>>102808515
Probably yes

>>102808372
>literal amd marketing

>>102810104
7800X3D went up +$250 when Zen5% flopped.
Now 9800X3D is launching soon promising 2% gains on the 7800X3D

So long as you bought it before the price gouging you did good.

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>>102810307
>only 2%

>>102810264
No lol.

>>102810307
>2% gains
As opposed to Intel's new negative gaming gains? kek

>>102810289
>98%
this is either pulled out of someone's ass or REALLY annoying to disable and on by default, in both cases it's obviously not worth looking at

>>102810334
look for stats on encoding with both cards maybe one is somehow better than the other for that

>is all i can think of

>>102810289
Upscaling has, without exaggeration, set back graphics at least a decade or more. Graphics were higher resolution with greater fidelity and better performance five years ago than today as studios have developed Learned Helplessness in not even attempting to code their games well relying on UE's defaults to chug along and expecting end users to upscale away the deficiencies. Game still looks bad? Throw some interpolated fake frames on the pile too. And the real tragedy? Nvidia has something like 80% margins on their GPUs so it's like the hardware performance isn't there for mainstream native performance to not even consider DLSS and the like as relevant. It's a giant scam to use software to avoid selling better hardware.

Is AM5 a skip gen for 5800X3D users?

>>102808071
bump

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What is the purpose of these add in cards? Do they have gpus?

>>102810408
At this point, yes. Maybe if Zen 6 is old AM5 and is worth something the answer will be different then. Check back in 2 years.

>>102810408
yes
>>102810396
I think that was already happening before DLSS became mainstream
people just became okay paying more & more for their PC/GPU so devs stopped caring, which made people even more okay to spend more, which in turn lead to less caring

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>thinking a budget build with some parts I've got from my old pc
>pic is like $50 on ebay
>can't run windows 11
I'm getting tired of this kike world.

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>>102808533
> Updating AMD Agesa is required
So I updated.
>>102810289
> Probably yes
I saw increasing performance of RAM in some of older bios versions. So I decided take a risk.

Also cleaned dust inside fans.

>>102810396
>relying on UE's defaults to chug along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgR1FRJnF8
very depressing halo video i saw recently


UE5 needs to be destroyed

>>102810471
>can't run windows 11
Huge plus

>>102810487
They won't let you use win 10 forever.

>>102810507
and yet they force updated everyone with that garbage AI button for a system with less than 11 months of life left

>>102810507
Lmoa what are they gonna do to prevent it?

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>>102810471
I took an old 8700K, mobo, ddr4 ram, PSU and my recently replaced 3080 ti, added a new case, AIO, fans, and cable extensions and it's a great 2nd PC. That i7 is just too old for anything remotely modern. But, you don't need new... just newer than that.

Mobo+CPU Options: Asrock RS D4 B760 + I51440
or PRIME B650M-F + 8600G
As a sidenote I'm thinking of buying Asus TUF B760 + a used i5 until I save money for a better CPU

Is this a good alternative goys? Will my chromium(TM), firefix(TM) or jewtube become slower 4 years from now?
Is 5600G on par with i5-12400?

>>102810558
>Is 5600G on par with i5-12400?
absolutely not

>>102810546
>3080 ti
you know we live already in a very late stage of planned obsolescence and that card will only run PS2 emulation right?

>>102810570
why is 5600g i/nferior if the 5600x is recommended

>>102810289
>certain titles are seeing up to 98% utilization of DLSS
how do you suppose they know this? please use some critical thinking before posting more digital foundry screenshots

>>102802428
>AVOID: Intel 13/14 series
because of the price or the microcode issue? do you know that they are similar to the 12600k right? why recommend 12600k and not the i5 14600K

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>>102807560
RIS is straight garbage, especially because it carries with it all the flaws of TAA but magnified, just like FSR1
https://youtu.be/zDJxBykV1C0?t=684

>>102806342
>buy geforce and ryzen
>buy either a 1440p lcd or a 4k oled, whichever fits your budget

>>102805141
>DLSS is better than native is a myth
Not a myth, on average

>>102803782
That's not native, retard. That's TAA, which is temporal.

>>102803634
It's more a problem with Lumen's denoiser than DLSS. If you mod in Ray Reconstruction, the ghosting on the leaves disappears.

>>102810653
>Not a myth, on average
>um as an aficionado, I can say with certainty the thing I am shilling is better!

>>102810627
the latter
>but it's fixed
you'll trust it just like that?

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>>102803659
>is this a significant upgrade?
I would focus on the GPU if you want to play games like Silent Hill. A 4070 Super will be fine with a 5600X in most AAA games

>>102803259
Including monitor I'd go with something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KsqpxH
DLSS Performance at 1440p will look better than DLSS Quality at 1080p, and the performance cost is similar. The monitor is a long term purchase; you'll be upgrading your system around it if you stay a poorfag

>>102809988
Not a huge difference, but the 4060 Ti is an x8 lane card, while the 3060 Ti is a full x16 lane card. This can be a problem when the VRAM gets taxed. The 4060 Ti however has DLSS Frame Gen, while the 3060 Ti does not. The 3060 Ti would obviously be a used purchase, so depending on price it could be decent or not. Use products have to be massively cheaper than new ones to be worth it

>>102810364
>>102810611
Both of you are retarded. Can't run new games without DLSS on mainstream hardware. Geforce owners use DLSS

What's the cheapest best cpu with integrated graphics I can buy?
I was looking at the AMD 5600G which is like 139 dorrah on pcpartpicker and with a Radeon Vega 7, anything better than that in that price range?

>>102810767
would it be wise yo pick up a 4080 super now? cause I dont want to get a 50 series if it means I need two 12v connectors and a new PSU.

>>102810767
>Both of you are retarded. Can't run new games without DLSS on mainstream hardware. Geforce owners use DLSS
you're genuinely fucking retarded if you think less than 3% will either not turn it on or turn it off. You could have a setting that defaults to on that just says "this will ruin your performance" and more than 2% of people will turn it on
not everyone is running 1440p and not everyone is running epic settings

any of you have experience with dremel and drilling holes onto your cases? what is it like?
>be me 4 months ago
>buy a cheapo case with only 3 fans and no mesh because I ran out of budget
>don't want to buy a new case since it's not overheating but I know things could be better

>>102810767
What the fuck? Why is the 4090 so much faster than the 4080S? Ledditors told me a few years back it was just barely better than a 4080.

>>102810952
Hole saws will probably be cleaner.

At Newegg can you exchange something that's the same price, just a different product brand?

>>102810715
2 years from now people will buy all the 13th and 14h gen stocks
They wont risk losing money

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>>102810396
>Upscaling has, without exaggeration, set back graphics at least a decade or more
Absolutely retarded
Reconstruction is what allows RT, etc. Retards always look back with rose colored glasses

>>102810479
Except that the custom engine that 343 was using was complete garbage. I would rather more custom engines than fewer, but admitting that some engines just aren't good enough (and therefore Unreal is an upgrade) is intellectually honest

>>102810875
>if it means I need two 12v connectors and a new PSU
That was just FUD. Not happening

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>>102810471
It can run IoT LTSC 2024 just fine

tuf gaming b760m-e + i512400
yes or no?

>>102810592
3 years of use showed me you're not really informed on these things. It's a fine card.

>(and therefore Unreal is an upgrade) is intellectually honest
xddddd

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>>102811246
It's more of a soft blue IRL

>>102811202
>it's future proof!
They said the same thing about the 1080ti

>>102804675
Owatrol

>>102802428
>no new /pcbg/ thread after reaching the bump limit
It's over. PC building is dead.

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>>102810952
nigga a dremel will fill your shit with metal flakes while it simultaneously deafens you and rips the tip of your inexperienced finger off.

>be careful with tools, anons

>>102811261
I know someone who's still on that card. Even upgraded his motherboard and cpu to a 7800x3d but didn't bother to buy a new gpu.

>>102811261
No, I used it for 3 years and got a 4080 super. As I said, it's now on a second PC with other old parts.

>>102811297
This PC
>>102810087
is rocking a GTX 1080. It's fine for 1080p gaming, If that's all you need, no need to upgrade. I would presume a bottleneck with the CPU mismatch, though.

>>102810967
4090 has always been about 25% - 40% faster than the original 4080 depending on the game