WHAT IS THE SMALLEST CASE THAT CAN FIT A FULL-ATX PSU AND 360MM RAD

>>102818039
>shilling seasonic as the high end and not the cheaper and better FSP Hydro TI

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Can't wait for 9800X3D

>>102818039
>B650 Steel Legend
Idk if its just my country, x870 pro rs is cheaper than the steel legend. But x870 pro rs is amazing and priced competitively.

>>102818067
Why would the x3d have a bigger uplift over the rest of zen 5%?

Is cooler master TD500 any good these days? Gamer's Nexus likes it, but that was 4 years ago.

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>>102817944
>>102817985
hmm, the upcoming 285k also has some nice looking tech like wifi-7 support and faster ram speed support. i'm only really looking to build a pc that will run GTA VI at 4k 240hz so hopefully it wont be too cpu intensive.

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>>102818096
better for games

>>102818081
>x870 pro rs
one m2 gets downgraded from gen4 on the b650 SL to gen3 but you get two usb 4 ports. all other features are about equivalent so you can just get the pro rs

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>>102818096
>bigger uplift
What do you mean?
Microsoft fucking up the Ryzen 9000 launch doesn't take away it's actual performance. See pic.

i recently just found out the ram i just bought is faster than my cpu supports (but not faster than my motherboard), will my computer explode if i use it or is it okay?

>>102818152
no, it will just get downclocked

>>102818169
good, i'm just trying to get some specific games to work that hog a ton of memory so it is nice to know that it still works.

>>102818133
I did get it, it was supposed to arrive today. Shipping delays again, I was just trying to say x870 pro rs might be better option at msrp, but steel legend might be better if its discounted.

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>>102818137
Also, from the Phoronix review:

>the Ryzen 9 9950X came out to being 17.8% faster than the Ryzen 9 7950X. The Ryzen 9 9900X meanwhile was 21.5% faster than the Ryzen 9 7900X across this wide mix of workloads

>>102818152
What did you buy anon? It might run down clocked at 4800MT/s. If AM5, better to get 6000MT/s CL30 than getting some 7200MT/s or something running at 4800.

>>102818184
Sad, just boughted 7900x, should have bought 7950x.

>>102818184
>wide mix of workloads
Yeah but people were mad about the gaming performance specifically. Of course Zen 5 would have bigger improvements in productivity since they were designed for servers in mind.

I just bought 3 SN770 2TB NVMe. Going to populate all my NVMe slots. It doesn't even compare to my 300TB NAS server but at least I don't have to keep deleting stuff once I stop using them. Plus I can finally separate my OS drive to my other shit.

>>102818199
Kingston FURY Beast RGB DDR4 (64gb at 3200mhz). i'm running i7-7700k on ASUS STRIX Z270F GAMING motherboard. i don't care about performance that much with this set up but i'm just trying to make sure the computer wont blow up once i power it up.

>>102818212
What's the rationality of getting mad about gayming performance when your using the same GPU?
Do people expect 1080p fps to just go up forever on a 4090?

>>102818051
there are places to demo expensive monitors, just like there's places to demo expensive headphones, issue is they'll usually only be in massive cities

>>102818237
You'll be fine anon.

>>102818210
What do you mean? What does my post have anything to do with the 7950X?

>>102818212
>people were mad about the gaming performance specifically
Gaming performance went up in approximately the same way I believe. It's just that the Windows fuckup made it look worse than what it is.
You're not talking about those retards that expected non-X3D parts to be faster than X3D parts, are you?

>>102818238
Some games are tougher on the CPU and it's natural to want to future proof as much as you can because requirements will eventually catch up even if the headroom isn't needed right now.

>>102818262
My fomo talking, I kinda regret not buying a better CPU.

>>102818263
You're never going to be future proof, there is always going to be something better.
If soneone is disappointed with a brand new part, they are also going to be disappointed with any CPU 3 years down the line no matter how good it was when it released.

>>102818279
Unless you use your CPU for a living, a 7900X will have you set for 5 years or more.

waitbros, what if China attacks Taiwan? what's the plan

>>102818326
Well, I will use it for work, but I should still be set for the next 10 years. I use a x1c g6 for context and the only issue with this is 8 gigs of RAM.

>>102818332
Put your life savings in intel or Samsung then

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>>102818332
Use Shintel and Global Foundries lol, wait no, there is Samsung. We'll be fine.

>>102818332
It wont happen.
Chinks are too cunning for that.
But they will completely block going in and out of island and inspect all ships with cargo.
A complete embargo if you will, not unlike something my county experienced in 1998.
i wish them luck.

>>102818347
>x1c
I don't know what CPU it has, but I can assure you your 7900X will be much faster.

>>102818355
>>102818358
You guys are not gullible enough to think that GloFo, Intel or Samsung can satisfy demand if TSMC goes to shit, do you?

>>102818370
Its Shintel Core™ i5-8350U × 8. Its donkey balls. 7900x is going to flatten it. I'm going to run VM for days, 1000 firefox tabs, watch animu and compile llvm all at the same time without breaking a sweat. But there is a sweeter Apple, 7950x. I can afford it but I forced myself to stick to a budget. I didn't want to buy the highest end parts and be out of touch.

>>102818391
Samsung will pour in billions and make it work anon. But if the chinks take ASML and other critical companies down, then we are fucked back to the stone age.

>>102818391
>GloFo
I didn't know they were this bad. They should shut it down.

>>102818415
>I forced myself to stick to a budget. I didn't want to buy the highest end parts
So you're a reasonable and judicious person that knows how to allocate his money responsibly?
I don't see a flaw in that.

I also bought the 9900X instead of the 9950X. Why? Because it's price/perf makes sense to me.
People ask me: "at that point, why not the 9950X?"
And I answer: "because at the time, it's performance over the 9900X did not justify the cost difference here"
Simple. Don't fall into the rabbit hole of consumerism that this board is.

>>102818433
>But if the chinks take ASML and other critical companies down
But this is exactly the scenario we're talking about.
No matter how many billions are injected into Samsung, it will take years to ramp up production, if at all possible.
ASML can only produce so many machines for the whole world.

Who'll be getting Arrow Lake?

Sure as fuck I am

>>102818513
>Simple. Don't fall into the rabbit hole of consumerism that this board is.
Danke anon you are the best.

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In regards to RAM, is there much difference in using 4x single-rank DIMMs vs using 2x double-rank DIMMs?
I've seen people here saying 4x16GB (single-rank), is going to be more unstable than 2x32GB (double-rank).
Is this true? False? Somewhere in the middle?

I'm asking because 2x16GB DIMMs are 100€ here, and 2x32GB are 240€. Quite the difference.
And I definitely don't need the 64GB today, so I feel it's smarter to have the 2x16GB today and then add another 2x16GB a few years down the line when/if I need it (they'll probably be cheaper too).

This is for a 9900X build on a X870 motherboard.
Any flaw in my reasoning?

>>102818587
AM5 cannot do 4 RAM sticks at the EXPO profiles. It'll fall back to 4800. If you are ok with that, then get 4 sticks. There is a good reason why only 2 sticks are marked as supported. Go watch Buildzoid, he explains it better.

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Anybody own TSMC, ASML and other critical companies? I've been thinking about putting some monies into it. Thoughts?

>>102818611
>It'll fall back to 4800
That's retarded. I don't remember this being the case with DDR 4, 3, 2, etc.

>Go watch Buildzoid, he explains it better
Which one? Can you spoonfeed me?

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7650-gre-rumored-to-feature-navi-33-gpu-ces-2025-unveil-uncertain

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>102818643
>I don't remember this being the case with DDR 4, 3, 2, etc.
It has always been the case.

>>102818587
2 sticks is more stable almost always.
If you have no actual idea what you could possibly need 64gb for, you don't need it. Even 16 is mostly enough these days (especially if you're not running a browser full of tabs at all times), by the time 64gb gets any close to being the norm you'll be buying new RAM anyway.

>>102818559
>>102818347
>Well, I will use it for work
When I said "Unless you use your CPU for a living" what I meant was if your CPU's performance was directly tied to your income.
For example: A freelance video editor might need to wait long hours for renders/encodes of their work and might be losing money in this time. For this kind of person, it might make sense to buy the most performant parts that his money allows.
But for 90% of people, that's not the case and we should just look at price/perf.
I'll also use my 9900X for work, but it will only be at 100% use for short bursts.

>>102818444
>I didn't know they were this bad.
Global Foundries is AMD's old fabs spun off. That should tell you why.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidias-blackwell-gpus-are-sold-out-for-the-next-12-months-chipmaker-to-gain-market-share-in-2025

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>102818710
>look at the list of customers placing orders
>it's all front companies for intelligence agencies
kek
shit must be real good if they already sold out before even launching

>>102818671
Sure, but not with such a reduction, I think.
For example, I bought 2x8GB 3200MT/s for my AM4 board when Ryzen 1000 first came out.
Recently I bought another set of 2x8GB for a 32GB total, slapped them in and it's been working super stable with the XMP profiles no problem.
I didn't even need to tune anything.
I would like to have a similar experience with AM5.

>>102818733
Are you retarded? Nvidia Blackwell launched back in March

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2F8yisiS6E&t=1561s

>>102818742
3200 is dog slow for ddr4
Back when I tried 4000cl15, it just worked in 4x8gb config whereas 4000cl14 2x16gb was impossible to run since my z390 motherboard was optimized for 4 dimms.
Modern boards are nowadays optimized for 2 dimms so you take a stability hit when running 4 sticks.

>>102818710
Apple just said LLMs are stoopid, techfags burning billions

>>102818763
>Modern boards are nowadays optimized for 2 dimms
This is fucking retarded. Might as well buy ITX boards with 2 dimms only if the other 2 will reduce performance anyway.

>3200 is dog slow for ddr4
It wasn't when I bought it.
Wasn't 3200 the maximum for 1:1 on Ryzen back then?
And won't 6000MT/s be considered dog slow a few years down the line?

>>102818774
There are people that said books were stupid, doesn't mean anything. LLMs are here to stay and they are going to get better.

>>102818803
>And won't 6000MT/s be considered dog slow a few years down the line?
Not for the 9000 series, servers are still at 5600 or slower. Unless AMD pull a rabbit out of the hat and improves the infinity fabric vastly, 6000 is here to stay for a while.

>>102818823
Zen5 servers are doing 6000mt/s standard and 6400mt/s for select customers since they got a new io die
Consumer Ryzen is the platform with the slowest memory support currently
>>102818803
Yes 6000mt/s is already considered slow now with 13th/14th gen able to run 7200-8400mt/s. The upcoming arrowlake CPUs will be able to run 9000mt/s+ as teased by mobo vendors

How does it feel AYYMDEADPOORFAGS cucks to be nothing but a footnote in AYYMDEAD's thoughts? Servers get new memory controller JEDEC certified 6400MT/s while cucksumers get Poozen4 memory controller stuck in the past with same limitations that everyone already found out

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>motherboard QVL lists my (normally dual channel) memory as compatible with one stick only
>figure it's a meme
>it's 100% accurate

>>102818910
Still the fastest CPUs around.

>>102818823
>>102818885
Guess I'll just stick with the 2x16GB for a while and a few years later when AM5 is on it's last legs and I upgrade the CPU I can grab another pair of DIMMs.

Decided to look at oled monitors. Reading some reviews and the issue is vrr flicker, lmao how is that even a thing ffs. Sounds unacceptable for a $700+ product.
Does anyone have an oled monitor and comment if it's that bad?
How do crt Chads keep winning

I should have gotten a PC much before and ditched the stinkpad hobby.

>>102818885
>Zen5 servers are doing 6000mt/s standard and 6400mt/s
With registered DIMMs, totally different thing than dealing with unbuffered DIMMs on consumer platforms

Is the H5 Flow a good case if you add two fans to it?

>>102818910
Jesus Christ do you children always have to use memed words to make a point? You forgot to say tranny, wynnbaw and whatever the fuck else, it's surprising that you even have a few normal words in your post.
I have a 4670K before you lash out with your high school tier "insults", or should I say, "poorsultsmdrones"

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>>102818972
How retarded am I for hoping there is a better sale on Black Friday to pick this up? Canadian dollars by the way

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Day 557 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102818119
wifi7 is up to the mobo nothing to do with cpu support
you gonna be waiting another year(s) after consoles for gta6 so buy a console

>>102818152
just set speeds manually

>>102818247
already in city but the problem is even the dedicated hardware pc stores don't have them prolly
large retailers have demos of all smartphooooons and shit but not the top end monitors except bunch of tvs and garbage like that
pc monitors are niche comparatively
laptops everything else
tiring

hopefully maybe the stores will have the oleds, they should atleast have one model of each there are not that many

>>102818587
>buying the worst ryzen
>running 4 dimms ddr5
don't do neither, unless you need like 192gb ram and a 9950x that is for workstation

>>102818972
>product has ONE problem that also exists on LCDs
>It's DOA
all products are flawed, it's just the least shit one objectively

>>102819072
any sale on any new oleds are good
the real sale is the cheaper models
but you should be more worried about shitty OSDs on oleds, like the retards over at MSI who do fullscreen popups every 4 hours unless they fixed their pixel protection

What are the only acceptable versions of the 4070 Ti Super to buy? Please no memery. Is the TUF still on top?

>>102819162
Doesn't matter for nvidia really.

>>102818587
Just don't buy that corsair brand of RAM. And two sticks.

>>102819162
at this point just wait for 50xx gpus

>>102819162
refer to the first rule of GPUs - always buy the cheapest AIB

I've always been a best value guy but on this PC I've gone for the step between best value and top tier and I'm wondering if it's worth going. OLED? I'm also upgrading from a membrane keyboard to mechanical and the speakers I've purchased cost more then every other set I've ever owned combined. Feels stupid to spend so much on a whole new setup but pipe it out through a 14-year-old monitor. I definitely need to upgrade the monitor because it's 60 HZ but OLED is so expensive

>>102818917
>he buyed 1Rx8 ram module

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>buying monitors now
>not waiting for the G-SYNC PULSAR monitors to launch next month

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>>102819190
>>102819224
>>102819239
I don't know what it takes to get a straight answer in this general.
>hurrdurr are you retard?
Yes, hence why I ask in the first place.

>>102819287
>pulsar
>when oled monitors exist

Is GSync even worth it nowadays? I've heard that freesync is a vesa standard, does just a good a job as GSync (as long as you don't drop below 40fps), and has less latency. I'm not exactly concerned with tearing when I'm getting 10fps

If AMD is smart they should have a good value GPU for when gta6 releases

>>102814546
Do you know where you are? This isn't yuropoor or india anon. We have money to waste lmao

>>102819244
people obsessed with value are poorfags and neets who have a fixed income and refuse REFUUUUSE to acquire goybuxx, trust me I used to be one, now I converted to full capitalism and objectively it takes less time to just earn more money and splurge than to waste years of your life trying to larp as a minmaxer, this is strictly for westerners though not actual favela third worlders poorfags

>oled is expensive
not really, you got 1080p TN panels that cost more than 4k 240hz oled and 4k 144hz shit panels lcds cost more and have been overpriced for forever, you also had 700-800 usd/eur 120hz 4k TVs for forever now, this is a false point sir

when you die how much of your life do you want to have been not raytraced?

>>102819287
on oled the refresh rate will need to be like 2x and you will get strobing at half the refresh and way dimmer screen as a result I guess still?
>just wait
sounds like a cope to me

>>102819289
the universal rules exist for a reason

>>102819326
the new gsync module is getting updated with the pulsar shit
gsync module was better than freesync yes but limitations

>>102819336
They do, it's inside the PS4 Pro.

>>102819359
the ps4 pro is 7 years old, anon

>>102819287
I've looked into it and it seems that they're working on a way to get better clarity and responsiveness on LCD, but even then OLED still performs better and looks better, right? Is pulsar. Just hoping to be a cheaper alternative to OLED if you don't care about nice blacks?

>>102819370
GTA6 will still launch on it

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>>102819151
>buying the worst ryzen
Ryzen 9000 is excellent on Linux.
>The Ryzen 9 9900X meanwhile was 21.5% faster than the Ryzen 9 7900X across this wide mix of workloads
See >>102818137
All that while consuming much less power.
Sorry for your botched Windows toy of an OS.

>>102819383
lol no
For it to launch on the PS4 Pro, it also has to run on the base PS4.

>>102819219
Why? It's Hynix A die. Isn't it good?

>>102819151
the description in the store page mentioned wifi-7 support specifically so i thought it was important.

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>>102819287
>G-SYNC PULSAR
Isn't that just strobbing?
We've had for decades.
Unless it's variable strobbing.

>>102818759
They already had orders lined up by then, dumdum.

>>102819373
Strobed LCDs will likely have the edge in motion performance at extreme refresh rates for awhile yet because they don't put the most aggressive drivers into OLEDs at first, but contrast and colors are more important in terms of the what the eye prioritizes for image quality anyway.

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>>102819287
ngl, I prefer top
those lines look way too fucked up
I'd rather have the blur

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>>102819289
Only buy the cheapest cards if you don't care about operating noise,
The cheapest ones still had to follow NVIDIA's reference design & component requirements, they cut costs on cooling.
The video card is most likely to be your noisiest PC component if you're a gamer.
This doesn't mean you should overpay for a card with better fans & cooler, it's a balancing act.

You'll notice the difference between a triple fan card running at 1200 RPM to one running above 1500 RPM.
In the US, MSI Gaming X Slim or Gigabyte Gaming OC might be worth the $20~$30 extra.
Windforce Max is discounted to $780 but I doubt it will run quieter than the above cards.

>>102819312
>>102819355
>>102819373
Strobing is irrespective of display technology, I believe.
They just turn the screen off between frames. But yeah, I bet it still looks best in an OLED.

>>102819502
Anon... I think those lines are part of the windows in the building. Therefore it's information you're not losing when it blurs out without strobing.

>>102819023
They're doing the /a/ "x won, thank you x" shit, they're probably underage or developmentally stunted.

>>102819355
>people obsessed with value are poorfags
It's the opposite. Caring about value is a middle class thing.
Poorfags don't give a dick about value, it's always about the cheapest. Like buying a $50 1TB HDD vs a $60 2TB.

Having some money makes you look at value more as not only can you afford the product that has better value but you can also take risks on better value things. You can buy the $60 2TB HDD but that's not as interesting as the $70 12TB refurbished HDD.

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>>102819355
>people obsessed with value are poorfags and neets who have a fixed income and refuse REFUUUUSE to acquire goybuxx, trust me I used to be one, now I converted to full capitalism

>based capitalist shitposter

>>102819516
pulsar is about an algorithm to change how the backlight works
Oled doesnt have a backlight

>>102819504
Thanks a lot man.

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>>102819516
>Anon... I think those lines are part of the windows in the building. Therefore it's information you're not losing when it blurs out without strobing.
Yes, it's there, but you "lose information" regardless, because it like tripled the lines that are actually there and even draws them in a spot where there are one
In neither case it's useful so I'd rather have the one that (to me) looks better

>>102819679
>where there are one
where there are none*

>>102819619
>Oled doesnt have a backlight
Yes, but it can also strobe.
My OLED TV can strobe and has VRR, so technically variable strobing can be used on OLEDs.

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https://videocardz.com/press-release/maxsun-launches-12-intel-z890-motherboards
>All these boards with full PWR/Rest/CLR_CMOS buttons and POST CODE Debug LEDs
If the price is right, I'm actually tempted to order one on AliExpress next-gen

>>102819454
good if you need Gig+ speeds over wifi
plus not having to fuck around with swapping between different bands manually
seems good (Have not tried it yet)

>>102819498
wallahi Zowie will go bankrupt

>>102819547
working part time flipping burgers and buying a 5090 is better opportunity cost than kvetching on this board about value

>>102819813
rmas will be hell

I'm looking to upgrade an old 2018 build from an RX 580 to a newer card that can last me another 4-5 years. The 580 has been able to play recent stuff like Ghost of Tsushima at high settings fine for me. Would an 8GB 4060 meet my needs, or do I have to buy a 12GB card to get another 4-5 years out of it at this point?

>>102819852
Wait for 5070 to launch in a few months or buy used from people selling their old shit in prepareation for next gen

>>102819904
second rule of GPUs - you do NOT wait for any gpu other than the **90 series

Looking for a 240hz monitor. Thought of going from 1080p to 1440p finally, but might stick to 1080p if the prices are still insane.
Budget around 300€.
Country: Finland.
Use case: Fast-paced games, FPS. Blender, gamedev.
What specs should I look out for other than resolution and refresh rate? Anything input lag related etc.?
I don't see any point in going past 240hz, there's so few games I can run beyond that framerate.

>>102819904
Not really answering a question I asked? Are you saying you think 8GB of VRAM is enough and to wait for a price drop?

>>102819948
Perhaps the AOC 24G2ZE/BK, if you're okay with 1080p 23.8" displays. Got one of these for FPS and Blender, the OSD buttons are a bit finnicky and you ought to make sure it isn't buzzing when set to 240Hz on arrival but for the price the colors and input latency might just be about the best you can get. Does get a bit blurry in motion when doing 240Hz Quake 1 though, less so in other games I think.

>>102820015
well 4060 is terribly weak gpu so most of the time 8gb is fine
but apparently stuff like dlss and frame gen also eat vram so there may be issues later on

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>>102816165
Yay I fixed it. This NF-P12 isn't rated for the same 2000 RPM as the stock one is though, but reviewers claim it doesn't even ramp up past 1500 so I should be fine. Maybe I'll get an NF-A12x25 FLX if the bearing on this old fucker dies on me

>>102819948
What's your current display? At ~300€ budget, your best tuned monitor is going to be the LG 27GR75Q-B
https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/2FmNnQ/lg-ultragear-27gr75q-b-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-27gr75q-b
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gr75q-b
Once you get above 144Hz, the nominal refresh rate starts mattering less than how well the OEM has perfected the Overdrive Settings to balance pixel response times (be more refresh rat compliant) vs. overshoot.

If you can stretch your budget to €340 the Gigabyte M27Q-X is both 1440p@240Hz and actually faster in MPRT than the LG:
https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/TxddnQ/gigabyte-m27q-x-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-m27q-x
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-27gr75q-b-vs-gigabyte-m27q-x/44761/31657

>>102819547
> Like buying a $50 1TB HDD vs a $60 2TB.
Had this discussion before. It was pretty silly, the prices were so smol. I think it was 12€ 16GB USB stick vs 14€ 32GB.

Can you use different gen RAM sticks of the same model? Say, using a 2019 version and a 2023 version of the same RAM stick in one computer

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2TW9qR
Rate this entry level AM5 troonix gaming machine

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>>102820229
you "can"
realistically that shit will either not post or only be stable in so piss slow configuration, so buy kits if you can and if you *must* add more later buy the exact same model with the same speed and timings

>>102820229
As long as they are the same-spec it should be fine. If they aren't the system will default to the speeds of whichever is slower.

>>102820254
Entry level and AM5 do not belong in the same sentence. Either up your budget or go with a 5700X3D (AM4) or Alder Lake/Raptor Lake B660-based platform to take advantage of cheaper DDR4 RAM.

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>buy dell optiplex 7060 off of ebay for 80 dollars
>replace video card with a 3060
>replace power supply
>add ram

>cyberpunk at 100 FPS

>>102820254
Having an iGPU is very useful for troubleshooting GPU issues. Also while you're waiting for a GPU to arrive, if you don't have an old one lying around.

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Thinking about 4070TiS. Gigabyte seems to be often on top of thermals. Which one of the gorillion variants is the "top"

>>102820255
so i guess it's better if i buy a modern 16gb ram stick

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>>102820435
go for 2x8 or 2x16, ram runs faster in dual channel mode

>>102820363
based thriftanon

>>102820372
7900GRE from Sapphire/Powercolor is better.

I wish I could own a powercolor card but AMD isn't an option for me... they look so good

>>102820466
If AMD isnt an option because of Ai then you're dumb for buying anything less than a 20+gb gpu.

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>>102820472
I MUST COODA

>>102820472
Some nigs are gonna bring up VR when it has been fixed on AMD since last year and PSVR2 is also all AMD.

>>102820472
>>102820492
it's just all the horror stories about CAD software I've heard which I use literally daily, I don't want to risk going AMD

>>102820510
CAD (Fusion360) hardly matters for GPU, its mostly simulation on the CPU.

>>102820530
what about twinmotion, lumion, revit? I can't find anyone recommending amd for this (other than firepro but I'm not in that price range)

>>102820454
I want a good card, bub.

>>102820547
Just get Nvidia for CAD
It literally just works

>>102820597
back at square 1 then huh

>>102820547
kek nvidia has the professional market in the bag, advanced nvidia features are trickle-downs from Quadro development and the ati/amdlets can't cope

>a real pro would just buy a Quadro

What does the version number behind SKUs mean on QVL memory lists? For example
>CMU32GX4M4C3400C16R(Ver5.20)
If it's some sort of revision number for that SKU, how do you determine what you have, just hope it shows up in CPU-Z?

>>102820597
>>102820650
>>102820557
You guys are stupid. 3D Accelerated CAD requires Quadro card support. That's why most are CPU based.

>>102820650
>>102820597
Anon wants a RTX card n ur telling him to buy a quadro. different skus entirely.

>>102820557
256 bit 7900GRE > 192 bit GPU

>>102820758
>mindlessly comparing numbers
Why? It's not even good bait

>>102819813
>Up to 256GB mem
Bullshit, the platform only supports up to 192GB

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>>102820741
anon really

>might wanna do some googling

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>>102820832
>only supports up to 192GB
Not true.

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This is you, AMDdittor.

it would be funny if ddr5 10k kits make core ultra the fastest gaming cpus

>>102821087
>upgrading for less than a 100% performance improvement
This is reddit consoomer behavior regardless of brand

>>102821135
like tweakers having a bump, each one gets you just a litttle bit higher

>and poorer

>>102819813
>fucking nobody brand makes a more appealing board than any of the Taiwanese brands
This is honestly why I hate PC building. Retards have been gaslighting me that PCIe slots are just soooo difficult

>>102821135
it can be smart if you like, own money, and buy the latest and greatest but sell your old gpu before a new gen arrives

>>102821087
yup, unironically that's me right there

I just checked and the two upgrades I have in the mail are a 55% and 57% bump, what is my consoomer score?

>>102819813
damn that's some workstation-tier I/O there

>>102820650
>>102820723
Quadro has been dead for 4+ years lol, also the quality is the same minus extra memory chips and driver certification fees.

I need to run dragons dogma 2 at 60 FPS at 1080p for under 500, what do I do?

>>102821133
>delid
>direct die cooling
>disable ecores (disable 2/3rds of a cpu u paid 800 bux for)
>full manual volts and manual oc at the limit for cpu and ring
>buy the best 2 dimm ram and make sure they run cool
>fully manual tuned ram and subtimings on a 800 dollar 2 dimm board
>stress test for 24hours to ensure stability and waste your time in bios screens
money no object, full autism maxxed
now you have probably tightened up the slop enough to have better minimums than a stock x3d which would make it "worth"
this has always been the same since 5800x3d launch

cpus are fast enough either way, what is way more relevant is the platform stability, cpu bugs, mobo bugs, and shit like this, that nobody checks, cpus are pretty uninteresting, just get shit that works

>>102821167
>consoomer on the consoomer board is in denial over his consooming
Many such cases

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>>102819813
>>102821206
no, maxsun shill-san

>just no

>>102819813
>more than 2 pcie slots
>two pcie x8 slots
>post code debug leg
Yay, some basic features slowly returning to mobos perhaps? It's a start.

Would a 550 watt psu be enough for the rx6600 and the 5800x3d?

>>102821234
>t. ass-blasted islander

bring back barebones motherboards
>no audio
>no ethernet
>no wifi
>no onboard shit just USB

>>102821355
>no one liked this

>>102818119
>wifi-7
Why is air better at sending signals than copper wires? Even 10Gbit ethernet is super expensive to implement still, is it even worth it anymore? I hate wireless though.

>>102821400
>Why is air better at sending signals than copper wires?
the quoted bandwidth is a peak figure shared between all connected clients in situations where there is no external interference
with 10Gbit ethernet you get a dedicated connection that always provides 10Gbits of throughput

>>102821400
You're just taking into consideration the client-side of a network. 10Gbit copper NIC's are trivial, the problems come with the switching side of things. 10Gbit copper requires a lot of power to operate and, a network switch must maintain 10Gbit full-duplex bandwidth for EACH connection, meanwhile Wi-Fi shares bandwidth between clients

>>102821225
Check second hand markets
>B-BUT I HAVE TO GET NEW
okay, get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cBtC28
https://youtu.be/EqDcpKX-gdk?t=514

You'll have to close anything using ram while playing

>>102821440 (me)
That said, I'll always prefer a wired connection over wireless even if it's Fast-Ethernet vs Wi-Fi 7

>>102821440
Well, it seems getting a switch with a 10Gbit uplink port and 'slow' 2.5Gbit ports for the clients is quite expensive, the wifi is cheap.

>>102821087
I literally posted that

>>102821443
>bronze

aaaaAAAH

But thank you.

>>102821400
>>102821440
10G copper is getting very cheap nowadays
A 5 port 10G RJ45 switch is ~$200 now

If you wanted to stretch things you could get a 4x2.5GB RJ45 + 2x10G SFP switch for $40 and 10G copper SFP modules are less than $40 now.

>>102821515
>5 port 10G RJ45
>$200
>cheap
nigger really

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Would this rust be dangerous or harmful to a potential build? Flash pic for better view

>>102821510
even if you stumbled across an extra 150$ I'd still go with that PSU because I'd rather upgrade storage to 1tb, upgrade ram to 32gb, upgrade cpu to a 12400(f) or 5600(x) and upgrade the gpu to 6650xt
All of these aren't even that expensive but 500$ means squeezing every single fucking penny and this'll give you the best performance for the money (without doing ridiculous shit I wouldn't expect of a person like running a 128gb ssd or whatever

>>102821528
it's cheap if you're not a zoomie/thirdie/welfare recipient

>>102821529
Nah it's just surface stuff. If you are worried get a wire brush and some damp paper towels and clean it off.

>>102821528
If you have 4 devices that can take advantage of 10G, $200 is cheap.
If your an enthusiast, it's cheap.

Realistically your not going to get 10G on WIFi, no matter how high they advertise.

>>102821529
post apocalyptic pc building be like

>>102821515
Really? The switches I was looking at were $700. I just need the 10Gbit uplink port since my internet connection is 5Gbps but I don't need that much bandwidth to each device, though it would be nice.

Currently have 16gb of ram but thinking of upgrading to 32
I have a B450M pro-m2 max (2 slots/DDR4)
Is there a website to check ram compatibility or something?

>>102821657
>I have a B450M pro-m2 max (2 slots/DDR4)
>Is there a website to check ram compatibility or something?
Here's the mobo SKU's QVL Lists you can search your kit's model # with:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-PRO-M2-MAX/support#mem
Realistically, any 2x16GB DDR4 Kit ought to work fine, just make sure your BIOS is completely up to date first.

>>102821657
on AM4 it depends more on your CPU than your mobo
are you on ryzen 1000 or 2000?

>>102821657
unless you need it for work dont bother upgrading to 32gb until you get am5 ddr5 mobo

>>102821607
I was more going off the generics on amazon, although you can get a treadnet for $229. No need to think too hard about a switch.
Are you looking at routers? For high speed internet connections I would just build one, mine is atleast

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>>102821592
By wire brush you mean.picrel? Ive also already used sandpaper on it and then cleaned it with a wet rag

>>102821727
The ISP provides the router but they expect you to use wifi, it has a 10 gbit port to go out though so I just wanted to connect a switch and plug my devices in there (not enough ports on their hardware). It does have a bridge mode so I could do it all myself though I guess.

>>102821692
>>102821696
Got a 5700x3d in May and probably will stay on AM4 until I can't run new games properly desu
>>102821689
Should I prioritize a particular speed? I know there's some talk about CL but have no idea what it means and if there's a real difference
.
I'm not going to upgrade right now but I find my pc sometimes slow especially as I do multiple things at the same time sometimes

>>102821766
>Got a 5700x3d in May and probably will stay on AM4 until I can't run new games properly desu
then literally anything will work
get 2x16 3600C18 or 3600C16 if the price difference isn't too great

>>102821766
you can run 2133 ram on x3d its near useless either way
totally useless to minmax trying to run above 3200

>>102821789
>>102821805
Thanks

>>102821805
bullshit
this was posted literally yesterday:
>>102812825
>>102813006
>>102813166

>>102821822
if you think ram tuning on x3d is the lowest hanging fruit you must be retarded my nigga

>>102821752
Yes, and looks like you did a good job already.

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>$1500 motherboard only has 4 sata ports
lol
lmao
rofl even

>>102821852
i never said it was the "lowest hanging fruit"
but you're retarded if you go out of your way to buy 2133 RAM for a CPU that's almost guaranteed to run at 3733+ without issues

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I want gaming performance AND application performance AND not paying a premium.

Recommend a CPU.

>>102821876
core ultra 7 265k

>>102821752
bro came back to russia from his service in ukraine to find his pc case rusty

>>102821868
nobody is gonna buy 2133 ram on purpose obviously you have to be retarded to do that or think I meant that also
it was to illustrate a point
I'd rather run 2133 ram and 5700x3d than run 3600 ram and any other AM4 cpu
it's literally near pointless (in most cases)

>for a CPU that's almost guaranteed to run at 3733+ without issues
enjoy your unstable IF, audio crackle and usb dropouts from literally being retarded

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>Go ham with the V-F Curve Boosting on previous 2 generations
>CPU start mass suicide leading to extreme press/customer blowback and returns
>Lessons learned
>Prepare new generation focused on efficiency and lower power/temps
BUT WHAT IF...
https://www.techpowerup.com/327653/could-the-core-i9-14900ks-successor-be-the-core-ultra-9-295k#comments

>>102821912
>it was to illustrate a point
no it wasn't because a 5700X3D with 2133 RAM is gonna perform terribly
>I'd rather run 2133 ram and 5700x3d than run 3600 ram and any other AM4 cpu
delusional
>enjoy your unstable IF, audio crackle and usb dropouts from literally being retarded
in my experience all ryzen 5000 will run at 3733
most will run at 3800
a few golden samples will run at 3833+
but i know you're gonna be pedantic and say "b-but AMD only guarantees 3200C22 on the spec sheet!!!"
if that's your mindset go buy a console

Why do all of the new z890 boards have less sata ports than 690 and 790?

What is the white poor man's neet approved build:

Ryzen 8600G + some shit B650M or I5 12400 + a real good B760M mobo?
considering that a video card is not needed, is Ryzen 7 5700G even worth it today?

>>102821876
7700

>>102821939
why use the fan heatsink word instead of stock cooler?

what's the practical difference between 6000mhz CL30 and 6400mhz CL32?

>>102821971
one will boot out of the box on every ryzen 7000/9000
the other will only boot on the top 20%
on intel both are terrible

>>102821949
Provide more context about what you're usecase is.
>Ryzen 8600G + some shit B650M or I5 12400 + a real good B760M mobo?
Both CPU's are goodI rather not cheap out on motherboard considering how flaky cheap ones are
>is Ryzen 7 5700G even worth it today?
R7-5700G is fine for everything including low-end and retro gaming.
I personally have one in my homeserver and it's fantastic. I used for productivity and it's great too. You should aim for newer tech tho

>>102821949
I would go with the 5700G with a good mobo, the 8xxx platform has not been widely adopted so it goes with your risk tolerance

>>102821999
>I personally have one in my homeserver and it's fantastic.
which motherboard? I'm asking because it's common to people buy ultra cheap motherboards and by experience ryzen CPUs or APUs run hot and these motherboards for some obscure reason are slow even with a decent M2 PCIE ssd drive
I tested a i3 from 2016 and it opens chrome or firefox faster than a 5600G + A320 Biostar. Not a RAM issue or SSD I think it's due to the nature of these cheap motherboards

How do you NEETs find money to buy PC parts?

>>102822068
NEETs? We're all top 5% earners here.

>>102822066
>which motherboard?
Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming
It's been rock stable with everything I threw at it

>>102821947
I don't know. The number of included SATA ports (8) on the chipset is still the same as before but all the boards I've found only has 4 max which is pathetic and the same as on B660/B760-based models.

>>102822068
remote tech work

I want to drive four 27" 4k monitors, no gaming/content creation, just heavy web/youtube use. What GPU/CPU/RAM combo is recommended for a smooth experience?

>>102822117
>just heavy web/youtube use
sure buddy

>>102822117
What are the refresh rates

>>102821947
>>102822099
Cost reduction. Manufacturers adjust to what most people use. With cheap M.2 NVMe's there's even less people using more than 1 or 2 SATA ports

Every time I try to sit down and decide exactly what parts or monitor I want my brain gets overwhelmed by all the options and I give up
How do I stop being a fucking retard who can't decide on anything?

>>102822068
get neetbux or money from family for birthdays or do online shit for money or steal shit for money

>>102821947
>>102822099
4 other sata ports can be repurposed for 4 PCIe lanes.
Mobo vendors are choosing to use then for the lanes. If have no clue where those lanes are going but it is an option on the chipset.

I wouldn't put it past them to not use the lanes for anything and are just being cheapasses. Kinda hard to tell because vendors don't give block diagrams anymore.

>>102822143
>cost reduction
For them lol, not for anyone else.

>>102822173
start taking TRT and grow some balls

>>102822136
just 60hz. Most of the time its just going to be static pages on fixed refresh timers, but lots of open tabs, occasionally youtube video if the situation warrants

>>102822173
Write everything down
>planned use cases
>parts to consider
>price

>>102821943
like I said, enjoy useless ram tuning on x3d or running even shittier non x3d AM4 cpus AND unstable IF as a result of tuning

Tell me about am5.

>>102822187
>For them lol, not for anyone else.
Of fucking-course

>>102822173
thats normal, tho given a budget theres only limited number of viable alternatives
you can ponder your options, make note of at least some viable parts you may get and wait

monitors its pretty annoying because of you're either buying an oled or youre buying literal garbage

I have 6 sata drives and want to upgrade. What am I supposed to do? just not use 2 of them?? Does the new zen 5 shit only have 4 sata ports too?

>>102822197
it's good

>>102822192
for reference, I had a good experience with two 4k montiors at 60hz with a 2080ti/3900x/32GB ram, but wondering if thats going to be enough for four montiors.

>>102822207
>>102822193
are OLED monitors really worth the money?
I'm scared of expensive things

>>102822218
>>102822192
Yeah you should be fine. Worse case scenario you have to run one off the igpu

>>102822227
yeah, image quality is much better on oled and you can do hdr.
1440p ones have been on sale around 600€, a great samsung g6 oled was 650€ on prime day recently
And the "good" lcd options are like 400€ so the right choice is pretty obvious with that situation.

>>102822196
notice how i recommended "3600C18" for normal people and not "go out and buy dual rank B-die, tune it to 3800C14 and stress test for at least 24 hours"
1866 FCLK is not a challenge on any chip but you may have to punch in some voltages manually and that's a step too far for many, so just get 3600 and don't worry about it

>>102822233
ok, thanks, will see how it goes once all the bits are in and up and running.

>>102822227
They are good if you have the money to buy a new one every 3 years because of burnin

>>102822088
why did you recommend me something more modern?

>>102822211
buy an external SSD USB case from aliexpress(TM)
Btw do recent motherboards have sata cables? last time I bought a A320 Prime by ASUS(TM) it had 3 of them I think, but some people claim they come with none

>>102819355
>people obsessed with value are poorfags
t. poorfag who never had to deal with being nickel and dimed over budgets worth several million dollars.
Grow up kid, you're not impressing anyone, you're just making a fool out of yourself.

>>102822246
only one problem it doesn't matter

>>102822262
newer is better, simple as

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what is the redpill about motherboards? I was looking into some B450 chipset models and to be honest it looks 100% identical to A320 except with heatsink
What is the advantage of B450 in real world? I mean in this case if it''s only the heatsink the advantage is zero

>>102822211
Buy nvmes goy

>>102822323
ok but which one?

>>102822302
RAM speed has always mattered and will always matter
but seeing is believing, go buy your shitty 2133 setup and be happy

AM5 seems like such a scam. I can get a great AM4 board with all the features I would ever want that will be able to run every AM4 CPU just fine, or spend like 50$ more to get a bare bones AM5 one. Don't even get me started on the CPUs and their price to performance in comparison.
By the time AM5 will make sense to buy financially for anyone that doesn't care about pushing 4k in gaming, AM6 will be out, AM5 will be dead, and AM4 will probably still be getting the occasional new CPU release.
What a joke of a generation.

>>102822331
You get fewer USB and PCIe lanes. Plus 1DPC and no OC, for what that's worth. The heatsink thing has nothing to do with the chipset but it does mean you're limited to lower power CPUs - probably best not to stick a 12/16-core in one.

>>102822181
>online shit for money
OF?

>>102822349
I'm not versed into AM5 myself but see the OP
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend
For the CPU I'd go with the 8600G, looks pretty neat

>>102822331
This >>102822404
Also, A320 boards are the cheapest of them all so build construction is notoriously worse than B450 ones

>>102822430
>Also, A320 boards are the cheapest of them all so build construction is notoriously worse than B450 ones
I mean in theory yes but how do you know they have improved VRM chips and better quality capacitors? They can simple put a B450 chip and heatsink and sell for higher

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>>102822398
AM5 would have been worth it if zen 5 was a meaningful uplift
but it wasn't, so either AMD pulls another zen 3 out of their hat or AM5 will be remembered as a mediocre socket

>>102822068
A NEET doesn't have kids and a social life, so they can save a few thousand bux over a few years more or less easily even just by saving handouts from mom and dad.

Why do they insist on inflating mobo prices by shoving PCIE 5.0 down our throat when even flagship GPUs are barely (if at all) throttled by running on PCIE 3.0?

>>102822173
After a certain point you just have to commit with a decision based on what makes sense the most and let fate do its job.
There isn't any alternative anyway, and you shouldn't trust anyone else to do your job for you since they will care much less about it then you do and most likely make an even worse decision than you would.

>>102822458
That's why you have to look into what you're about to buy and never trust manufacturers

>>102822471
Fate has nothing to do with monitor buying, it's all about the endurance, you should expect to return 5-10 monitors before you find one that doesn't have major motherfuckturing defects.

>>102822470
for some reason they think a poor neet like my will buy a PCIE(TM) 5(TM) graphics card that cost 1200 dollars

>>102822424
programming, art, surveys, moderating, editing, RWTing, hacking, etc. etc.

is corsair ax1200i good psu for workstation?
any longer lasting one with equal specs?

>>102822460
The critical error was not having a transition period of AM5 boards that still supported DDR4 RAM. AMD boasted about wanting to become a "Premium" brand and it shows with how they've priced the platform and chips. They can either have their margins or marketshare but not both. Forget client computing that they've basically written off already, now that Intel has transitioned to Tiles, even their N-Core EPYC dominance will be at risk going forward. An architecture is either incapable or they're unwilling to scale down to entry-level cannot survive long-term.

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Has any reviewer tested the 5 GHz 16 core Turin with the half gigabyte L3 cache in games for shits and giggles yet?

>>102822331
redpill is some boards have bad controllers for usb and such that can't handle certain devices like high polling shit and will cause your entire system to stutter, was more common on amd (ALLEGEDLY*) than intel, but ymmv
annoying board/platform shit like this why you should care about platform stability
other than that, not much

>>102822380
good thing it's near insignificant on x3d so we can stop being autistic about this

>>102822470
more pcie lanes

>>102822578
why does a i3 from 10 years go run chrome faster than a 5600+A320?

>>102822470
They are inflating prices for the hell of it.
We are 3 gens deep into PCIe 5, there is little reason for prices to go up or features be cut specifically because of 5.0

>>102822553
>The critical error was not having a transition period of AM5 boards that still supported DDR4 RAM
you have no idea how based zen 4 on AM4 would have been
there's millions of B550s and X570s out there that are both capable of supporting a new generation of CPUs (because they have 32MB BIOS chips) and capable of handling the higher power requirements of the new chips
hell even some B450/X470 boards would have been capable of supporting zen 4 with no issues
with the improved infinity fabric on zen 4 there would have been no issues running truly high-speed DDR4 on these chips either

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>>102821854
Thanks anon

Just noticed th3 amd cooler came with pre applied thermal paste but i accidentally smeared it with a finger
Can i still use it or should i clean it off and apply.my own?

i7-8700K, GTX 1060 3GB , 2x 16GB DDR4

I don't want to replace my PC just the video card. What card should I get?

>>102822621
looks a bit light, should work but if you're worried you can always put some on
I'd clean it off where you smeared it on the fins though

>>102822685
3060

>>102822707
I have 500$ to spend.

>>102822715
I was thinking the 16gb vram AMD card.

>>102822715
buy a PS5 and an account from brazil
with 50 USD you can buy 2 50 dollars game
Simply convert your USD to brazilian real on your credit card

>>102822685
7700xt/7800xt or find another 90 bucks & get 4070 SUPER if you like DLSS/RT

>>102822715
>>102822736
upgrade nothing, buy lossless scaling on steam and learn to use it to improve your framerate

save up and replace the entire thing in 2 years

>>102822810
>spend another 600 dollars to build a new low end PC
>That will be outdated
kek
PC building is such a scam for gaming. your 4090 will have struggle to run Death Stranding(TM) 2 and people will blame CPU, memory and asking amd and nvidia to update their drivers. And the cycle will repeat

>>102822848
What are you even on about? Did you blow your entire budget on crack?

>>102822863
4K tvs are default since 2018 yet even the most expensive video card which would require wasting money on ultra premium motherboards and useless rare DDR4 models struggle to run modern games at 1440p
Just like right now as of 2024 people are slowly running games from 5 years ago at 1080p ultra at best

what monitor should I get with a 4080 super 7800x3d build

So the new intel cpus won't work with current boards right?

>>102822962
>buying a super before the 50 series
nigga what are you doing

>>102822848
10+ year old pre-built office PCs can run the latest games about as good as a PS5 by just putting a modern GPU in the damn thing.
PCs only become outdated the moment you decide they are outdated yourself, unlike consoles where you have to let big daddy Microsoft or sony to make that decision for you.

>>102822996
>waitfagging for 0 improvements & sold out actually good cards
LOL

>>102822997
>10+ year old pre-built office PCs can run the latest games about as good as a PS5 by just putting a modern GPU in the damn thing.
they cant
Try putting a RX 7900 and you'll see it's worse than a PS4Pro

white man's neet build
Intel Core i5-12400 + AsRock B760 PRO RS + DDR5 5600mhz

>>102823004
last time I went to best buy at release date they had all the cards in stock besides the 80s and 90s.

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>>102822959
Pass me some of that shit

>>102823267
sure
Go ahead and buy your ultra expensive video card goy

>>102822962
pg32ucdm or PG27AQDP, depending on your preference
join the republic

>>102822975
it's a new socket so no

>>102823098
if you are a neet you aren't white

guys
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1727672489114697.webm

what is the newegg(TM) but Indian? or best buy indian? I want to check if it's true that Intel jews have a 90% share in India

Will Radeon 890M ever come to desktop?

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>>102823341
Intel seems to be popular due to better low end value options.

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Let's be honest, 1000 dollars don't get you near PS5 level of performance and you'll be stuck with running older versions of Palemoon in the near future

i7-14700 or i5-12500?

>>102821947
literally just filtered by boards with at least 6 sata ports and got 4 results

>>102823391
Then spend more money. This is PC gaming $1000 is the floor. Or buy used. Shit in Pandemic times that 3060 went for $700

>>102823440
bet half those ports are useless if you use all the NVME slots

>>102823475
>>102823475
>>102823475

>>102823470
hope not. fyi the board i boughted only has 4 sata ports

>>102823480
You better check the motherboard page to see how many still remain operational if you plan on populating all of them.

>>102823496
i only plan to use 2 max. Will fully populate all 3x m.2 first for space savings

>>102819224
To be honest, this. There is always the chance of there being a useful technology or optimization regulated to the 5000 series and above. Performance wise though, doesn't seem to be much improvement from the 4000 series to 5000 series as far as we know.

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Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but do CPUs with integrated graphics like the r5 8600g have separate power consumption for the CPU and GPU? Searching online it says it will use about 78W tops but looking at benchmarks on youtube it seems like the Radeon 760m is eating about as much on top of that as well.

>>102823455
>Then spend more money
good goyim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs7GzEZ-BV0

>>102823602
>separate
No

>>102823294
why those two?

>>102823105
I'm not talking about the new ones, retard
they're stopping production of existing models, aka the good cards
if you waitfag you'll be left holding the bag and forced to buy more expensive cards that don't have an improvement or pay the premium for the now "rare" older models

>>102823375
5700x3d will smoke any intel cpu for maybe 10-20$ more a system
the good price just isn't on amazon

>>102823391
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V4GjYN
This will smoke a PS5 easily

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>no 1851 board manufacturer says on its respective board page if it uses the trash ILM or less trashy reduced load ILM
Its like Intel and its partners go out of their way to make Arrow Lake bomb as hard as they can. I genuinely want to give Intel a shot and check Arrow Lake, but they sure are giving me a hard time.

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>>102821696
no.

>also no

>>102821529
>>102821752
based recycleanon

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>>102823267
this way next, anon

>>102823278
i think anon is spending his money on weed instead

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>>102824558
they are considering 2000-2500 msrp for the 5090

why tf was his post deleted?
are the mods working for Novideo or some shit?

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>>102821657
>>102821689
that right there is the best answer, a pic for answeranon

>don't forget to have fun

>>102818611
the memory controller gets saturated and would shit itself trying to deal with traffic across all four sticks if the BIOS didn't downclock the RAM

>this is not /gaymd/ specific nor is it a new "problem"

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>>102825060
don't worry, anon

>they would never hire armies of minions to monitor popular threads and report posts.
>never

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what is the smallest motherboard that can hold 64 gb of ddr4 a 4090 and water-cooling