Since OP didn't mention it, congrats mutt bros.

>>103101689
Build now or be prepared to waitfag for the next 4 years.

>>103101715
>More GPU tariffs
Buy your Nvidia now before they go up by 40%

>>103101715
this is a politics free board

AMD and Nvidia putting in orders at Intel soon now that Taiwan will be given to China.

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yeees, keep going down, yeesss

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Betting on the felon got me enough money for some upgrades, is pic related a good case fan or what would be better?

>>103101729
Kek, the funny thing is that tsmc's fab in the US is already up and running so they'll just put their orders in there. The prices will be at least double tho so be prepared to get your wallet raped.

>>103101737
Donald doesn't like TSMC

if prices are gonna be raped, should i just get a this gen gpu and skip next gen? thinkin amd since i don't care about rt or ai

>>103101729
>Taiwan will be given to China
Wtf are you smoking?

>>103101715
It's funny how musk bought votes and this isn't illegal

>>103101747
>AMD
if you're getting a 7900XT or better then buy now, otherwise just wait. MLID has been hinting that AMD and Nvidia have been importing stuff for a while now

>inb4 that one person starts talking about vacation home

I can't buy my 4070 Super on amazon bros...

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>>103101797
7900GRE is better

https://www.techpowerup.com/328502/nvidia-surpasses-apple-as-the-worlds-most-valuable-company

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>A 5600G just for web browsing
>12400F under gaming but not 5600/5600X which have more affordable motherboards
WUT

>>103101875
OPs are always bait. always ask here

>>103101875
12400/5600 are equivalent the advice is, buy whichever is cheapest in your location.
here in Australia the motherboards and cpu are cheaper for AM4.

>>103101850
doesn't this mean gpus will be more expensive, since its a "premium" company

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>>103101755
As legal as dead grandmas voting for Joe anon. Of course I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not stupid enough to believe in democracy.
>>103101805
In no way that matters. 7800xt and 4070s are both superior in their price ranges.
>>103101875
Personally would never recommend a cpu with a igpu anon. 12400 is probably the best option if you must get old hardware.

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>>103101892
Without* a igpu. I'm sleepy, gomen.

>>103101892
qt.

>>103101875
Breh, get 7600 + b650m hdv.

Is 6gtg okay for a 100hz monitor?

>>103101689
what should we be stocking up on over the next couple of months?

>>103102119
nothing
we can always buy intel cpus and gpus

>GPU at 100% usage
>Hotspot temp like 65C tops
>Clock barely above stock
I know it's an old card (1070Ti) and the game (BO6) is niggerlicious but this doesn't make sense, does the driver nerf your performance in new titles to bait you into upgrading? I've seen it reach 2GHz in other things.

>>103102119
buy a 9800X3D tomorrow because there's going to be lots of stock and knife battle for the 5090 in January after Trumps inauguration

Any reason to upgrade my current SSD (Samsung 980 non pro) to a newer NVME variant? Was thinking of the SN850X.

>>103102146
iirc bo6 uses mesh shaders. your 1070 ti doesn't support it so it falls back to a slower path. its same case with alan wake 2 where the game will run on a 1070 as per minimum spec but very poorly so the true minimum is something like a 1650.

>>103102166
Only if you need more capacity

>>103102166
3.0 x4 to 4.0 x4. The speed doubles, but does your board do that speed?

>>103102167
I'm not even complaining about performance, I get like 60-100FPS without any sort of memescaling. But even if the card is doing something very inefficiently, why doesn't it clock higher? Is it maybe so starved by memory speed the core is half asleep?

>>103102184
Sounds like I will then. Might as well repurpose my current OS drive to a game storage.
>>103102192
Yes, it should. Just looked at the product page again, the first slot is PCI-E 4.0.

>>103102195
The card literally doesn't know how to process the shaders properly because it's not a real DX12 Ultimate card.
Like how your old AMD card isn't working right if it's pre RDNA2.

>>103102211
That's probably a good answer but I'm too autistic to accept it, I still think there's no reason for the card to not boost if it has thermal headroom (even at no performance benefit) unless the driver specifically restricts it.

I tested each stick in slot 4 and only one stick works, I came to the conclusion that one stick was bad. I returned it and the seller is able to run both sticks. So, what does this mean? What should I do here?

>>103102259
did you run memtest?
it means either they're lying or your motherboard is broken or the cpu memory controller is broken.

got everything for my build except the GPU which I haven't decided on. CPU has a iGPU.
should I start putting together the components I have and see if everything runs first, or wait til I get a proper GPU before I begin?

>>103102267
I did not run memtest. I was able to run the system stable, no issues for 3 days straight across all my usual workloads with one stick, I even ran blender render benchmark and I was able to push the cpu temps to 95, but I was not able to make the system crash.

>it means either they're lying
I was afraid of this case, but let's be charitable.

>motherboard is broken or the cpu memory controller is broken.
How can this be the case if one stick is working, in the same slot, the other stick is not.

>>103102290
Put it together and start enjoing your machine anon. Once the gpu comes, you can install it and then connect the monitor to the gpu.

>AMD Overtakes Intel In Quarterly Datacenter Revenue For The First Time
lol

>Sapphire are entering the motherboard market
wtf based

>>103102314
Basedo, hopefully they do IPMI, on all boards.

it's 8am in Estadounidadia already, where the fuck are the reviews?

>>103102321
and socketed bios chips

>>103102340
I've never heard of that. Do they exist?

>>103102345
they used to but I assume its simply because they cost like 20c extra.

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>>103101689
Its over brehs
>https://www.adrenaline.com.br/analise/processador/review-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-os-gamers-tem-um-novo-rei/

>>103102379
what the fuck

>>103102379
fake

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nice

>>103102379
It was supposed to be zen +5% not -5%.

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>>103102379
>https://www.gamersky.com/hardware/202411/1840915_8.shtml
>https://www.gamersky.com/hardware/202411/1840915_9.shtml
Chinese reviewer shows gains across the board

please be shit at mainstream games

any chances of the 9800x3d causing the 7800x3d to lower back to 300?

>>103102426
Sure I'll be selling mine at $300 like many others would be doing

>>103102426
yeah the 7800X3D is dropping again, scalpers want to scalp the 9800X3D

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>>103102431
>>103102430
can't believe waiting is gonna pay off

>>103102407
>>103102414
post 1440p-4k with maxed settings or I don't give a single FUCK about your "gaming" benchmarks.

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>>103102437
>post GPU bound scenarios for a CPU benchmark

>>103102426
No, 7800X3D is not being produced anymore. That's why the price increased in the first place.

>>103101725
Just make them in the USA bro

>>103102414
>>103102407
Results might be incorrect since this retard has put only the the code name for bios board and not the version of the bios used.
I swear this is why I don't trust reviews before embargo lift.

>>103102492
>just make them in the usa sweatshops bro
thats not how it works

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>7 more minutes

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>3070
>16gb ram
>5600x
>goal is to play monhun wilds and other vidyas at 1440p with good fps
do I get a brand new card(was thinking the 7900xt/7900xtx) and some ram and call it a day, or should i get a 7800x3d, upgrade to am5 then wait for next gen cards? or do nothing and keep waiting?

>>103102531
Those damn amd marketers. Its their fault arrow lake doesnt perform as good as good as ryzen 7000 and 9000 series!

>>103102550
Those marketers have gotten greedy and are making arrowlake perform worse than 13th gen!

5% faster at 1080p

>>103102512
That's exactly how it works
If you can move GPU production to a shithole in Indonesia, you can move them to the US.
Quanta and Foxconn already exist here making some of the latest hardware for big tech companies. The capabilities exist.

>>103102574
There is no industry for less advanced but crucial electronic parts such as PCBs, capacitors, resistors, vrms, and connectors that is required by these companies, in the US

>>103102295
stupid question, but: can using the iGPU first and adding a dGPU later cause any driver issues in Windows?
this isn't my first time building, but it will be my first time adding a proper GPU at a later point.

>>103102573
Look at 1% lows.

REVIEWKINO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-lFgbzU3LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-dvUE3wAiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcYixjMMHFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H0xeRE21_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KswGlkrNhP0
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/

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Watching a Chinesium Review of ARL at the thought occurred to me, if a game I like to play gives better Min FPS to one CPU but better Avg FPS to another, which would be better?

>>103102595
Those thumbnails are pretty entertaining on their own

>>103102589
I don't use windows, I think you will be fine, even if you have issues, installing drivers will be easy.

>>103102595
I humbly give my review watch virginity to Paul, of Paul's
Hardware and Newegg fame.

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>>103102595
>19.3% increase on remnant II
damn, i need this cpu

>>103102602
higher minimum are always better

>>103102602
highest 0.1% (not 1%) lows would be the best

>>103102620
>>103102628
Thank you.

>>103102379
Is only COD. and it get a normal benchmark on AMD windows install that they sent.

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>10$ more dollars than the already bog'd to shit 7800x3d

>>103102573
11% according to HWUB...

>>103102602
min %'s don't matter if you use a frame limiter.
when you move your screen the fps changes and there is nothing you can do about it, only a frame limiter will make the game actually smooth.

>>103102595
>HWunboxed Steve is laying on a couch
LOL

>>103102665
I was going by techpowerup

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/18.html

>>103102665
>amdunboxed

>>103102668
>when you move your screen the fps changes and there is nothing you can do about it
The fuck are you talking about, you still need good minimums even when you limit fps.

Lets say you have 2 similar cpus that run 200fps average and you want to limit them at 150 fps.
But one of them has 100fps min. and other 120fps min.
Which one is the better cpu?

>>103102549
I think mohun is a controller game (maybe it uses KB+M, but there is no FPS controls?)
honestly just use FSR 3 or Lossless Scaling and use AI generated frames.
>It looks like shit, horrible artifacts, etc
honestly I don't mind 30fps, that's the fps a lot of gamecube games have, and all those games are controller based, if I was playing an FPS at 30fps, that would actually be brutal.
When you need a $300 CPU to run the game at 70fps, that's not really an upgrade, 70fps is still pretty low and choppy.

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>>103102673
that seems within range of leaks, as does everyone else's. AMD actually set reasonable expectations on performance. BUT I am not impressed because of pic related

>>103102689
Honestly I don't know because when I limit my fps the frame times are 100% flat and there is never a % low except for make a shader compilation from a shitty game or something.
You are pretending like having a really good % low means the game will be perfectly flat and smooth, but it turns out what's happening in the game massively changes the FPS, and it will feel like a game that's constantly changing FPS, because it is, there is nothing you can do about it with the hardware (unless you hit the max FPS of your monitor, which acts like a frame limiter).

>>103102644
Maybe it'll be a good deal in a year. For now, it's not really shaking the world over CPUs in the $200 range and that extra $200 premium easily can buy an end user a higher tier GPU. Only Someone already planning to get a 7900 XTX/4080S should consider the 9800X3D and only then because the 4090's price increase over those parts is so wide.

>>103102711
yeah but there was no chance the 9800X3D would be as efficient as the 7800X3D because it was literally underclocked to not cook itself.

>>103102711
thats because the 9800x3d runs 0.15v more voltage than the 7800x3d

>>103102725
>my fps the frame times are 100% flat
If you mean those graphs then those are deceptive.
Your frametime graph will still look flat even if your 0.1% lows are HALF the fixed framerate.
Ideally your 0.1% lows should be equal to the fixed framerate, that means 100% same FPS all the time without dips.

>You are pretending like having a really good % low means the game will be perfectly flat and smooth
Pretending? Nigger wHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
DIPS TO A HIGHER NUMBER IS NOT PRETENDING. IT'S LITERALLY BASIC MATH.
IF ONE CPU DIPS TO 100 AND THE OTHER ONE TO 120 THE ONE WITH 120 IS SMOOTHER ASSUMING SAME AVERAGE FRAMERATE YOU DUMB NIGGER

> but it turns out what's happening in the game massively changes the FPS
NO SHIT RETARD THAT'S WHY THERE'S ALWAYS A BETTER CPU THAT WILL HANDLE THE LOWS BETTER, THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS ARGUMENT
I TOLD YOU TO ANSWER WHICH CPU IS BETTER AT FIXED 150 FPS, THE ONE WITH 100 FPS LOWS OR THE ONE WITH 120???????????????????????
WHAT DO YOU THINK??????????!!1111111111??????? IS 120 LOWER OR HIGHER THAN 100, IS LOWER FPS BETTER=??????????

>>103102711
Without context this graph does make it look like not a particularly great improvement, but the 7800x3d is already very efficient, and +20% in power is really not that much when you consider that the 7800x3d pulls around 40-70watts depending on application.
Can't wait to see oc/uv for this thing.

I want to see how these results again with the 5090 to see where the 4090 was bottlenecking the 9800X3D

>>103102732
>>103102763
>>103102740
I do wonder how much better the 9800X3D will run at 65W vs the 7800X3D

>>103101850
>le company won reddit meme

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>>103102740
Reminder that Trump love intel ceo Pat Gelsinger

Just hit 23k graphics score in Timespy with my 6800XT. this card is 4 years old now and at launch they were saying it only gets 19-20k.

>>103102773
if you're an American soil company then Trump loves you. Tesla, Intel, Microsoft are all allies.

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so the takeaway here is that it literally does not matter what cpu you have since nobody games at 1080p and everyone is gpu bottlenecked at higher resolutions

skipping this cpu gen
getting a 5090

>>103102669
He's been standing continuously all year, finally he can put his feet up.

>>103102828
they fixed the amdip

>>103102828
dlss quality at 1440p is 1707x960 or less than 1080p so these benchmarks are more relevant than ever.

so whats the deal with the zen 5 then?

is the redesign of the l3 cache by flipping it so radical that managed to make those parts literal beasts because they can clock the same?

does anyone else find gamersnexus voice unbearable

like hes got peanut butterin his mouth all the time

>>103102828
those fucking lows...

>>103102866
he can talk a long time without stopping like linus and you can hear him try to stretch out the last words before he has to breath.

>>103102124
We can also buy bricks but that doesn't make them a viable replacement for nvidia gpus

>>103102860
It is. Clockspeed directly improves performance across the board since it reduces latency.

https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-now-offering-am5-based-b650-nitro-and-pulse-motherboards

>>103102923
they have the same frequency so no

>>103102531
Is the editor over there a master of satire or does he lack any self awareness? I heard even intel doesn't want anything to do with them.

>>103102960
he is absolutely a nut case

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>>103102259
Bump. Pls halp.

>>103102595
why its always tpu with the most bs amd benchmarks?

What is the typical Ryzen 9000 overclock with static voltage and all-core frequency?

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7800x3d bros we're still on top

>>103102993
intel marketers

>>103102711
That's the cost of a faster boost clock, it gets increasingly power inefficient.
This is also why server chips usually boost below 4GHz.

>>103102860
Io die is not enough to feed the zen 5 cores. 3dv-cache keeps it fed.

AMD won
it's over

>>103102943
Well they arent if your talking about the 7800x3d vs 9800x3d

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>>103102595
impressive

I got a 7800x3d before the price increase, but running a 3080 FE. Should I hold it a bit longer or aim for a newer card?

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>>103102673
>Breaks 200 FPS w/PBO in Ryujinx
Impressive

>>103102758
>Ideally your 0.1% lows should be equal to the fixed framerate, that means 100% same FPS all the time without dips.
no it doesn't matter.
my point is that the % lows don't matter.
it's the change is FPS that matters.
You can be OCD about 1 frame taking a little bit longer to draw, but I care more about the FPS being flat.
Also I can't even tell if you are talking about the CSGO game, when you run a game at 500 fps, it doesn't matter anymore. That is an extreme situation, most AAA games run at around 100-200 fps, certain AAA games like space marines run at 60.
If you look at a realistic game, the % low frame times are much more closer to the average FPS, and I think CSGO is just a terrible example.
And it also depends on the frequency of the % lows, so that's why I look at the graph, the graph is better than looking at a number, since it's possible the % lows come from loading a new region, which personally I don't really care if it happens like once a minute.

>>103102992
>>103102259
The sticks can be good but your Mobo BIOS hates it. That's why you need to upgrade or downgrade sometimes.

>>103102259
Shit is fucked
Get your money back or RMA the kit

>>103103074
I tried bios update. It still didn't work.

>>103103095
Getting money back, and trying a local retailer at higher price might be one solution. I could ask the retailer to just send me one more set of sticks.

So now that 9800X3D is out and confirmed banger, what MoBo and ram would you guys suggest for it?

have a 3070
wondering if I should upgrade to a 4070 ti before tariffs get added. I usually do a lot of VR games, so I will actually utilize it.

>>103098174

Check out OpenRGB

>the 9800X3D doesn't just beat the 7800X3D but also buries the games where the 14900K was better than the 7800X3D
also the cinebench results have a 7% uplift over the 9700X... to the surprise of nobody its bottlenecked by the memory controller.

Should I get a 6800XT for 430 or a 7800xt for 470? Does the 7800xt have any features or performance that justifies the price difference over the 6800XT?

9800X3D
9800X3D
9800X3D
9800X3D
9800X3D

THEY FUCKING WON

Still not buying it

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>>103103046
I CAN HAVE GAY SEX WITH A BARE AT -WHAT- FRAMERATES????

>>103103149
The 9950x3D will be a great pick up for people who do both gaming and work

I've never seen numbers like this on 1 generation on the same socket. It's like a brand new architecture.

>>103103179
BEAR, FUCK!

>>103103046
holy SHIT

AHHHHH I'M STILL WAITING ON THE 9950X3D

I KNOW THEY WILL HAVE CACHE ON BOTH CCD

AHHHHH I GOTTA WAIT WAIT WAIT

>>103103139
LIke he said openrgb does not detect it. I want to know a solution for this as well.

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>285K Out of Stock

WHAT
WHAT THE FUCK
WHO BOUGHT IT
WAS THIS SOME PAPER LAUNCH BULLSHIT
WHAT WHO FUCKING BOUGHT IT
WHAT

>>103103049
You might only get about $300 for it at this point.
I don't expect the 5070 to be that great for the extra $300~400 you'll need to pay for.

I sold my 3080 12GB for about $350 to me, the buyer had to pay a bit over $450 because of eBay fees & sales taxes.

And you can OC the 9800X3D too

IT'S NEVER BEEN MORE OVER

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>>103103166
6800XT should able to be had around $350, but regardless the 7800 XT offers nothing over the 6800 XT.

gonna retire my 13600k to htpc a770 media duties soon why the fuck is the 9800X3D 900audollarydoos?

>>103103046
time to upgrade my 5800x3d

>>103103187
>I've never seen numbers like this on 1 generation on the same socket. It's like a brand new architecture.
This is basically what non-X3D Zen 5 COULD have looked like if they hadn't gimped it with the same IOD as on Zen 4.

Reminder there will be a lot of shilling today so here are a list of AMD biased channels and reviewers/marketers

>gAMDers nexus
>AMDunboxed
>TechpoweredbyAMDup
>level1AMDtech
>getskitfromAMDguru
>DerAMDuer
>AMDcomputerbase
>AMDPCWorld
>Intel Is Dead
>AMDTV
>AMDGaminginHD
>I'm an AMD
>Not an Intel Fan
>AMDTwoCents
>AMD Hardcore Overclocking
>AMD3D
>AMD Owens
>AMDBreviews
>AMDTeks
>AMD's Hardware
>AMD Tech Tips
>KitGuruAMDTech
>AMD Foundry
>optimumAMD
>GAMDer Meld
>CrAMDft Computing

>>103103128
B650M-HDV/M.2
Hynix A die
same as it always was

>>103103166
7800XT has Display Port 2.0, Anti-Lag 2, HAGS, AI Cores, better RT, lower power draw.

So when will AMD finally be stable on high speed CUDIMM

>>103103234
you forgot
>AMD

>>103103205
yes it was a paper launch

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whew holy CRAP

>>103103242
>>7800XT has Display Port 2.0
Uhh shouldn't that be DP 2.1?

>>103103221
480 USD = 900 ruddbuxx

>>103103205
Normies only buy intel. That's why intel still dominates the market share and makes way more money despite being worse.

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Who's getting one?

>>103103258
correct

>>103103278
too poor

>>103103269
Normalfags don't buy either brand, they buy OEM PCs and laptops and intel captures most of that market because AMD can't/doesn't want to do that volume in consumer client.

>>103103234
Thanks for the list mate
I'm glad to know that UserBenchmark is still the paragon of reliability

>>103103267
would my 7900xtx bottleneck it? mainly for beamng VR. Resoulution isnt an issue but the gpu rarely maxes out and i wunna hit 60hz ideally 120hz

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This is just insane

>>103103295
in cpu bound games no, in gpu bound games yes.
the 4090 might be bottlenecking it.

AM5 has finally arrived

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holy fuck im shaking

>>103103299
makes me wunna buy a x670e ddr5 128gb 5600 and 5090 but thats over 5000aud at least
>>103103310
fuck
guess ill wait for a 9900xtx then

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only 900 more dollarydoos for 98x3d scalped ofc

>>103103257
wait isn't the 3600 like $80?
how much is the 9800x3d again?

I bet Jewfus will say it still dips even though the lows are higher than any Intel CPUs

>>103103340
5700x3d and 13600k are like 100usd now

>>103103338
>1x32
nigger what are you doing

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Hey /g/ros, I'm trying to make a midrange pc because I'm an insufferable ga(y)mer, is this good?

>>103103257
shit man, at this rate Intel will need 2 more generations of cpus to match the 5800x3d

>>103103353
>midrange
what resolution/fps are you playing at

>>103103353
looks good

great product but I'll wait until it's $400

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>>103103351
blame umart i wanted to order 500aud woroth of ram alone lol

It's so weird to me there are gaming CPUs and Productivity CPUs now. I mean there always was but the productivity shit used to be like threadripper. Is there even a need for threadripper anymore

>>103103358
1080p, I typically play indies (usually with a lot of mods)
>>103103359
thanks anon :), I'm new to this so I'm still learning the ropes

>>103103378
nah

>>103103382
you probably dont need a 7800XT then

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kek should i ? have 64gb of ddr4 3200 and occasionally the memoryleaks in beamng eat it

>>103103353
Can you get 7900gre? Try reducing some monies on ssd and motherboard maybe. Get ssd without heatsink, it might come with the motherboard. What psu are you planning to use?

Take these only if they are cheaper.
SSD: wd black sn850x,
motherboard: asrock b650m hdv/m.2

But overall, solid choice.

>>103103394
NO crucial for ddr5 allowed. Crucial/micron is horrible for ddr5.

>>103102595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ZfIxa6dhY
Linus actually has a measured takeaway.

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where the fuck have all the pcie 4x 8x slots gone?

can I put my old HDD with my old win10 and files installed on it in my new pc (fresh win11 install on a new ssd) or will that make the pc confused and do weird stuff
I'd delete the windows and such on the old hdd of course

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>Paul's Hardware's cpu running at 1.27v - throttling at 92C in cpumark
>GN and Der8auer's cpu running at or under 1.18v and runs really cool
The silicon lottery seems pretty insane this generation

>>103103378
an X3D CPU is server grade alien shit in the perspective of a wow private server.

>>103103403
damn ill wait for black friday deals or new year xmas shit then

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1440p. +24% increase wow

>>103103411
yes it's fine

>>103103378
threadripper and xeon W790 WS mobo's still exist.
they are for things that want more ram bandwidth, and more PCIE lanes.
I can only really think of maybe a small server, or an AI training PC?

>>103103389
ah alright
>>103103396
Thanks anon

I will use your wisdom /g/ros.

>>103103419
almost half the power for 50% perf jump over my 13 series lol

>>103103411
If doing it from boot it will ask you which boot drive to pick but should be fine after then you can move the files
Or hot swap it in and activate it and move the data

>>103103414
>>103103424
is there any good am5 shit with lots of pcie slots and lanes? Why does amd and intel cut down on them it gives me the SHITS

>>103103394
what kind of rule34.xxx do you have up?

what parts are likely to be on sale on black friday

>>103103258
>>103103242
Guys, I'm retarded, please someone explain to me why is display port 2.0 on GPUs matter if monitors have 1.4? Isn't it going to be, uuuuh, a bit too far ahead and your monitor won't utilize the full potential of the connector of your GPU, so why bother?
Is it hard futureproofing?

>>103103443
femboy and gigantic breasts
havent hada gf in a while kek

>>103103444
storage, case, power supply, monitor, peripherals, but don't count on CPU/GPU, memory, motherboard

>>103102595
285k status?

>>103103463
i need a complete build soon except ssds which are staying in my gaming rig
guess ill start ordering shit now

>>103103457
>no brap
>no gore
>no emasculation
>no rape
it's so over

>>103103239
>B650M-HDV/M.2
This board sounds perfect except it only has 3 fan connections, will it be enough with RX 7900 XTX?

Someone please tell me the Taichi Lite will go on sale

>>103103509
Lol
Lmao even

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intelbros what the heck

>>103103204
try signalrgb

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Day 580 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>103103521
Danke anon, I'll try it.

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From what I understand, m2 slots are just pcie slots but smaller, right? But if that's the case what's the differentiation between them and the (number 9) small pcie slot here? Also isn't calling both it and the full sized pcie slot intended for the GPU the same a bit confusing since someone may think it's a full sized slot instead of a smaller one?

>>103103449
Theoretically yes but it doesn't really matter at all right now. There's a lot more to day but it's just very complicated especially with the amount of lies monitor manufacturers claim.

>>103103491
braps are based hate everything else u just mentioned

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>>103103449
if you buy a display in the future its gotta be futureproofed with latest version of hdmi or dp.

>>103103502
Use PST fans.

>>103103519
Intel was never good anon, why do you think jeets always use them in their scam call centers? Because it's a jeet made product to enjeetificate the world. Why do you think millions of jeets are overflowing everywhere? It's because they are an extension of the freemasons who are trying to destroy the world. Support Intel if you support omniextinction, retard.

>>103103519
the west has fallen...

>>103103531
>5090 will be 3000usd
>8xxx shit will just be another 7900xtx with better rt
>9800xtx and udna probably another 5yrs away
pain
a
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n

>>103103521
Looks like its windows only.

>>103103539
m2 slots are not pcie slots, they are physically different

what you meant is m2 slots use pcie LANES like pcie slots

>>103103548
Emasculation is hot anon, are you dumb? Nothing is manlier than a man overcoming a man's manliness. It's like the ultimate fuck you to nature and it shows you do whatever you want, whenever you want. It shows that you're on top and little rules don't dictate your life. That's why it's more straight to cum in a boy than a girl.

>>103103502
Based board. Like the other anon mentioned, you can daisy chain fans.

>>103103556
>5090 will be 3000usd
It's going to be $30000 actually

>>103103550
I always find those high Hz's amusing because there's still no fast enough gpu&cpu that could max out the frames to such heights

>>103103550
dp2.1 is the only good thing about rdna 3
woeful decoder encoder still
shit rt perf
great raster perf
shit ai
good vram
at least its cheap and fast in what i play
>>103103568
you sound like you buy intel cpus new
>>103103577
one game i dont know why

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>>103103553
>>103103568

>>103103578
framerate interpolation is good enough
AFMF2 worked well enough but the driver was too unstable so i went back to 24.7.1
might try 25.x adrenalin
24.10 is shit

>>103103578
the windows desktop, web browser, excel can

>>103103582
>you sound like you buy intel cpus new
I only buy NVIDIA, aka, I'm a wealthy independent straight man who makes boys like you my concubines.

>>103103539
It tells you the difference, the generation and number of PCIe lanes available to each slot.
Top big slot is PCIe Gen 4.0 with 16 PCIe lanes available
Lower small slot is PCIe Gen 3.0 with 1 PCIe lane available
NVME/M.2 slot also uses PCIe lanes. These lanes will connect directly to either the CPU or the motherboard chipset
you can read a general explanation here
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pcie-definition,5754.html

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>CRASH
sad day to be intel

>>103103599
i dunno dubzdood that sound really gay
at most id fuck a fat ass femboy tho

>>103103569
>PST fans
You can WHAT? Since when you can daisy chain PWM fans? I feel so old rn

>>103103539
PCIe is the information transport standard - how many bits, in what order, how fast, synced to what clock, etc. - the shape of the physical connector is technically irrelevant. Of course in practice it's heavily standardized and everyone refers to those slots as "PCIe slots". Happens all the time with these things.

>isn't calling [...] a bit confusing
They're not called the same thing - one is x16 and one is x1. What is somewhat confusing is when you get an x16-*length* slot that's only x4 electrically but mobo manufacturers are usually pretty upfront about what's going on there.

Intel got fucking mogged

>>103103606
fuck me my 79xtx is been bottlenecked to fuck by my 13600k then
God damn it if the 9800x3d wasnt so expensive it would be a day 1 buy but its gonna be around 1500aud by the time i get ram and a mobo and shit

>>103103611
It's not gay. It's natural for a man to be attracted to feminine things. It's a man's nature to fuck feminine things and try to procreate with it, even if it's biologically impossible because visually it is feminine. To say it is gay for a man to like fem(boys) is to say it is gay to be attracted to the opposite sex at all. Also do you have a big butt and small penis perhaps?

>>103103614
You can anon, I bought arctic p12/p14 pwm pst 5 pack that allows daisy chaining.

>>103103623
>79xtx is been bottlenecked to fuck by my 13600k
that was always going to be the case

Blue team lost twice today.

So did AMD sandbag on purpose or did they fuck up the testing of their own CPU?

>>103103615
Got it, thanks anon

>>103103640
kek

>>103103635
feels bad
i just crank the res 2.5k in vr and 3440x1440p in 2d
>>103103640
kek heard it on the news lol

>>103103616
They got mogged by their own 2 year old 13900k

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>>103103640
its over

>>103103643
It is called underpromising, that way no one gets disappointed.

>>103103655
But AMD has literally never used this strategy before ever.

>>103103658
THAT'S A BOY?

>>103103663
Yeah but they saw what happened to Intel when they overpromised with ARL.

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https://youtu.be/E-dvUE3wAiQ
noice
>>103103668
some dont even need hrt

>>103103663
They did it a little with the 5800X3D. Lifted the embargo a day early, too.

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>>103103317
Same.
> kernel compile (defconfig)
> 7800x3d: 99.65 sec
> 7700x: 95.47 sec
> 9700x: 87.94 sec
> 9800x3d: 75.94 sec

>>103103658
>>103103672
As a straight, wealthy, independent man, I never knew boys could be this lust provoking.

is the 12400f a good cpu for 2024?, I have an old i3 9100 that punched way above its weight but after the monhun wilds beta I knew its time for an upgrade, Im on a bit of a budget right now so my options are limited (the i3 14100f and the ryzen 5600x are my other options)

my GPU is an rx 6600xt btw.

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>>103103682
nohomo i would
>>103103688
what res/use case

>the people that bought 7800X3Ds a few weeks after launch sold them for more than they bought it and are now getting the 9800X3Ds

Waitfags...this isn't feeling good

>>103103553
>if you support omniextinction
Yes.
For me, it's ecofascist global genocide.

>>103103696
just vidya and watching movies, only work I do on my pc is word documents.

>>103103688
>my GPU is an rx 6600xt btw.
for that GPU yeah

>>103103678
is am5 getting a 10800x3d? might just wait for one of those when 9900xtx drops
>>103103704
my 13600k handles 60 and 120hz well enough i only have a quest 2 and a 144hz and 100hz monitors

>>103103696
Sauce of m'lad?

>>103103688
It's okay for a budget rig but usually the 12600KF is worth springing for. In your case, MHW seems to be horrendously optimized on the CPU side so it may not even be "enough" to get a good experience. I'd say to keep saving until the full release and weigh your options then.

>>103103672
>>103103658
Has science gone too far?

How hard will a 2700X bottleneck a 7900GRE at 1080p? I'll upgrade the CPU as well but I think that can wait.

>>103103519
Never should have taken the IMC off die.

/pcbg/, should I bother with the autism that is RTX HDR with no overlay, or use AutoHDR?
I know native is still better than both but obviously many games don't have that.

So its basically confirmed that a 9800X3D is the only way of playing MH wilds at FPS higher than single digits?

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>>103103722
not far enoguh!
>>103103724
my 2700x oc to the moon bottlenecked my 2080ti and even 390x
a horrid cpu even worse than my 1600x

>>103103704
That can only happen if 9800x3d stock is good enough to not be scalped

>>103103688
It could be had together with a b760m riptide Mobo with a clock gen for 200$, combined with 6400 ddr5 you have 12900k beating performance running it at 5.2ghz
Any other combo and you are pissing away perf and better off getting a 7500f or something
But you need to tune if you want 50-70% free fps

In other news

>9800x3d beating everything pretty solidly
Yep it's over, AMD jewry has won

AMD is the white man and republican choice of CPU

>>103103731
Time to lose my NNN streak, I would get away if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

What mobo and ram should I go for with my 9800x3d?

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Why does Userbenchmark not want me to get this when it has better temperatures, watts, memory latency and performance?

>>103103744
As someone who likes AMD who isn't the former nor the latter (I'm an independent), false.

>>103103748
ram 6000Mhz CL30 or lower (CL28 offers about 2% more perf) also EXPO certified

>>103103748
x870 pro rs + any ddr5-6000 cl30 ram.

>>103103751
285,000 is a bigger number than 29,400

>>103103751
Yeah, this benchmark seals the deal for me.
Imagine how many Rimworld mods this could run before it dips below 900TPS.

>>103103757
5600 is not ideal for Ryzen 7000/9000 as it does not run infinity fabric 1:1 with the IMC

>>103103765
i could run like 400 beamng mods with that motherfuck
must
not consume

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>>103103744
>trump picks intel ceo pat gelsinger as telecom advisory committee
not so fast goyim

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>>103103757
They have a pornhub... I'm gonna go leave for science and to not derail the thread...

>>103103751
no such thing as a bad product, only such thing as a good price.

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>>103103770
what about 6000?

Best Thermalright single tower 120mm coolers? I can't decipher their numerous SKUs

>>103103341
Jewfus says to buy 7800x3d if you not gonna tune
8000mhz ram and tuning Intel has lower dips in some games
We will see how 9800x3d works in his dipperino test

>>103103783
have fun kek ive run out of lube
maybe ill go downstairs and use 15-40w diesel

Decided to buy 9800x3d with a Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE tomorrow coming from a 5800x. Never had to worry about flashing a bios. Will all I need is a flash drive?

>>103103785
like 200 more watts to power up a Intel CPU is a lot for server farms.

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>>103103789

How long will AMD support AM5? Is the 9000s series the last or are they going into the 10000s?

>>103103799
so 6000 oc then
>>103103797
x870 does nothing for me i guess

>>103103341
yeah amdip still happens. they just made it dip upward now

>>103103802
intel fumbled arrowkneelake so bad they got no reason to compete so i guess we will be stuck with am5 for a while.
meanwhile intel regressing on a socket a year

>>103103806
most kits do 6000mhz out of the box if they are expo certified, no manual tuning required just one button in the bios and then forget about it

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Intel APO saar
Intel APO saar
Intel APO saar

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Whats the fucking point for AMD of splitting their CPUs between the normal and 3D ones, just go all in the 3D ones, drop that name, and just make them standard ones.

>>103103821
tempted just to send it on aliexpress ram lol it oc'd better on ddr4 weirdly but wanted 64gb so i sold it

>>103103826
>>103103826
>>103103826

>>103103802
Until Zen6 in Q3 2026, Zen7 will come out for AM6 with DDR6.

>>103103828
its more complex to make and the SoIC process used to stack the cache has limited capacity

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So if I have a pcie3 cpu, then neither of my m2 slots support pcie4 right? Damn that's some sneaky shit.

>>103103859
>Damn that's some sneaky shit.
How so? The PCIE controller is in the CPU.

>>103103866
You have to actually know that though, and trust me 99% of people won't before opening the manual. Them advertising it as a pcie 4 slot is at definitely at the very least slightly deceptive.

>>103103904
>definitely at the very least slightly deceptive.
It is not, B550 was designed to be paired with Zen3, if you use an older Zen2 or Zen1 CPU is your fault.

>>103103927
Zen2 supports PCIE4 too, only a retard would pair a Zen1 CPU with a B550 board.

>>103103944
Not all zen2

I BOUGHT THE ROG Zephyrus G16 (2024) GU605 WITH AN RTX 4090 LAPTOP GPU FOR LIKE $3,000 AND THIS SHIT LITERALLY BURNS ME. EVEN WHEN IM JUST PLAYING RUNESCAPE. LMAO

I GOT SCAMMED.

EVEN MY MACBOOK DOESNT BURN ME.

CLOWN WORLD.

>>103105594
A 65W cpu heatsink is thicker than your entire laptop including the screen. did you really think a 500W gpu is usable in a laptop

>>103105594
>>103106250
>4090 LAPTOP
It's 150W at best. They call it **90 as a joke.

US
no budget
which motherboard should I go?
ryzen 7 9800x3d

Gigabyte X870E AORUS PRO ICE
Asus ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI
Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE
ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi
NZXT N7 B650E
ASRock X870 Pro RS
ASRock X870 Steel Legend WiFi