will zen6 cpus have zen 5c or are they reserving those for mobile cpus?

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Better temps = better longevity

>>103109636
they can't put it on desktop easily. their dense cores chiplets are rotated 90 degree and stretched out

>>103109646
60c - 65c aint that high

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>>103109663

>>103109672
9800X3D is around 53c-54c in that chart though. Big difference if you know how temps work.

>>103109636
there no market for that, average user just want clockspeed then more core. that should stay in server

>>103109628
>putting your plastic doll on a 4090

>>103109681
both would last forever at that temp

>>103109663
thats ok, the 16 core ryzen 9 is still competing with the 24 core intel in multicore somehow, just hope they provide more support for lower level threadrippers in the future similar to 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen tr
>>103109696
it was just a question cause i heard people say zen 5c was coming and they said this like a year ago so i was wondering what was happening

>>103109708
If you can afford a 4090, you can afford two plastic dolls

>>103109636
Those 16 core ccx c cores probably have really bad c2c latency (i.e. no bingbus) in addition to it's 1.5ghz clock regression. I wouldn't want to use such a CPU on a desktop

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For real tho. Who keep generating headline about intel being take over. The new rumors is amd buying out intel which obviously won’t happen. It just feels very artificial

>>103109758
that makes me think, how come the am5 epyc cpus werent made with zen5c? they couldve fit at least 64 zen5c cores on it no?
https://www.amd.com/en/partner/articles/epyc-4004-series-processors.html

>>103109773
Server vendors don't want big.shittle
It's either all small cores or all big, no in betweens.

>>103109646
>better longevity
Bruh, am5 processors are designed to run at 95c all day. Longetivity of processors is moot because all the other parts give out first.

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>finally get 1440p monitor with refresh rate higher than 80hz
>browsing and overall program use feels and looks 10x cleaner
>twitch, youtube and pretty much every streaming platform is capped 1080p at best so it still looks like poop

giveth and taketh I suppose

>>103109781
i meant only zen5c
its weird that both epyc 4004 and ryzen 7000 have the exact same core amount, same max ram capacity and same pcie lanes amount
they couldve at least put 64 zen5c cores on the highest tier one, theres no point getting it over a 7950x

>>103109773
Like another anon said, the 5c cc'd has a different layout and would necessitate the validation of a different substrate. The 4004 epycs are just Ryzen rebrands and don't cost amd anything to make since the work is already paid for

>>103109813
thats just weird, why wouldnt the companies buying these just buy the ryzen chips? paying just for a different name on the ihs basically

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intelbros wtf

>>103109821
Companies are weird. They would pay 150% markups just to get validated hardware/software like quadros instead of geforce GPUs when they're the same thing.

1080p all you need

1440p and 4k just consume more bait

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the intel blue wall is broken...

>>103109834
so amd's ingenuity finally broke through the bag of jewish tricks huh

>>103109804
>>103109813
AMD could always do a new IOD for Zen5+ and validate it for Zen5C to use it on AM5 EPYCs but they're most likely just focusing on Zen6.

>>103109821
well EPYC also gets the best binnings, I assume they're also getting the best Ryzen IODs and they get EPYC support.

>>103109850
yes, even the games Intel was doing better in the 9800X3D blasts past.

>>103109858
>well EPYC also gets the best binnings
thats how intel operates.
amd, im not so sure considering epyc 4004 literally has the same paper specs as their ryzen counterparts.
and mainline epycs on the trx/wrx sockets clock like crap so those chiplets likely arent suited for desktop clockspeeds.

I'm thinking about buying an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420.
are these things silent and, more importantly, do I have to worry about leaks?

How long should I expect a HDD to last?
My use case is that I have about 4 TB of files that I access maybe 2-3 times a day

>>103109858
Pretty sure Epyc got better IO die, then desktop version

>>103109875
maybe 2 years until you hear click noises if its a seagate

>>103109875
theoretically most people will say 3 years, but its honestly closer to 20

>>103109872
I assume they're not clocked to the moon because that's not the point, they need threads in a certain power envelope and the clocks are secondary to that.

>>103109877
yeah they probably went top binned.

>>103109900
it not just better binned, it just better. buildzoid did say something about it

will the 9800x3d/9950x3d with the highest end x870e motherboard be able to do 6400mhz cl28 or 6600mhz cl28 (hynix sticks cooled down) at 1:1?

>>103109911
well yes because they're golden samples

>>103109932
>6400mhz cl28
if you're lucky and patient
>6600mhz cl28
i've never seen anyone achieve 6600 1:1 before

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remember that if you're getting a gpu thats worse than 3090 you shouldn't waste money on a cpu that costs more than 7700 unless you really want to minimize 1% lows or unreal 5 stutters, or do productivity work

>>103109874
Arctic is one of the best brands. Gamer's nexus rated it as one of the best AIO. I can't vouch for silence. I'd presume it would be, but can't be sure.

>>103109939
>i've never seen anyone achieve 6600 1:1 before
maybe zen5 and x870e will have a slightly better memory controller and allow it to happen
>if you're lucky and patient
now imagine that with an 9950x3d overclocked to 5.8 ghz with delid and custom water cooling, maybe even 6ghz since ive seen competitive overclockers hit that on the 9950x with custom watercooling (ekwb)

>>103109961
>maybe zen5 and x870e will have a slightly better memory controller
same memory controller (reused IO die)
the X870 boards do have much better memory topology
>now imagine that with an 9950x3d overclocked to 5.8 ghz with delid and custom water cooling
8400 in gear 2 with synced FCLK would be much cooler

>>103109943
actually since 7600 is like 210€ that should be max anyone pays for a cpu for 1440p machine

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wtf

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>5800X3D beating 285k
intelbros...

>>103109982
cp is particularly well optimized to make use of the cpu

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>>103109966
>same memory controller (reused IO die)
guess were waiting for ryzen 10000 then
>8400 in gear 2 with synced FCLK would be much cooler
worse ns latency though since its gear 2, but probably good for gaming, picrel 8000cl36

>>103109936
nothing to do with binning. zen5 epyc io die is a newer generation chip that is straight up specced for jedec 6400. and the ccd's are connected to the io die at double rate compared to desktop ryzen

>>103109994
>worse ns latency though since its gear 2
wrong
ignore what you've learned on intel platforms, gear 2 doesn't have a significant latency penalty on AMD
8000:2000:2000 is already faster than 6200:3100:2133
so what you really want for top-tier performance is something like 8400:2100:2100

>>103109770
Maybe pat should build the fucking fabs and start shipping products if he wants our money, all he's done so far is make promises while delivering jack shit.

>>103109900
>I assume they're not clocked to the moon because that's not the point, they need threads in a certain power envelope and the clocks are secondary to that.
yes, amd will pick chips that can't do 5.5-5.7ghz but are also at the same time really efficient and use less power at lower clocks than those put into ryzen

>>103110018
>ignore what you've learned on intel platforms, gear 2 doesn't have a significant latency penalty on AMD
first time ive heard about this, why is it different on amd?

Compared to 7800X3D, the fact that AMD released 9800X3D first before 9950X3D means that the latter is probably gonna have cache on both CCDs and it's gonna be even better.

>>103110027
idk
better memory controller
all i know is that 8000 is both faster in gaming and gets lower aida latency

>>103110028
window scheduler would make that cpu ran game mid tier

>>103110028
well its potentially better on some applications, but then the l3 cache being on different chiples its gonna be bad for performance on some titles due to latency and whatnot

So 9800x3D over 7800/5800x3D makes no sense at 1440 and above right?

Linus review showed minimal gains at 1440 and above, and if you have a decent card you arent playing at 1080/low.

>>103110028
amd never misses a chance to fumble a launch
i half expect them to continue with the hybrid 7950x3d approach just to save $20 on the cache chip

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>>103110027
>>103110032
here
7800 never loses in either latency or FPS
now imagine being enough of a chad to get 8400 stable
it could be you

>>103110040
5800x3d and 7800x3d are not sold anywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-dvUE3wAiQ

delidded....

>>103110040
It does, it has significantly better lows but if all you care about is avg fps then you'll be fine even with a 5600/12400. Of course that's assuming you don't play games like monster hunter wilds and dragons dogma.

>>103110046
5700x3d is and 7800x3d doesnt have a gpu that would not bottleneck it at 1440p

>>103110046
I know, but if you have one. 9800x3D is amazing but I was trying to convince myself to upgrade with a 7800x3D (I like making upgrades), but it makes no sense at 1440/165hz.

I think a 5800x3D might be good for 10 years at this rate.

my hands are itching
I want it

>>103110066
buy the 9950x3d instead
its even betterer

>>103110074
That shits gonna be like $1k after tariffs drop :(

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>>103110059
like this, and thats 1080p. I'll save my $500 for a 5080 (maybe).

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>>103109989
the 285K sometimes loses to Zen3 NON X3D, its absolutely devastating.

>>103110009
wait wait wait, I thought we were talking about the AM5 Epyc. the new enterprise chips absolutely have a new IOD which has nothing to do with the Ryzen IOD.

>>103110076
its good to contribute to the tax base
its going to be used for good things like shipping weapons to israel to kill brown babies

>>103110044
interesting, i wonder what voltage theyre running the 7800mhz at
there were so many high end ddr4 kits running at 40-41 ns when properly tuned back then
i wonder if we could reach the same latency with ddr5 kits above 8000mhz, judging by the trend in your ultra low cl 8400mhz could maybe even run at 50ns

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9800x3d aida

>>103110083
>there were so many high end ddr4 kits running at 40-41 ns when properly tuned back then
yeah on 9900K/10900Ks
zen 3 could do 50 ns fully tuned (which is still amazing when you see what intel's attempt at chiplets looks like)
>i wonder if we could reach the same latency with ddr5 kits above 8000mhz
there's no DDR5 RAM that scales like samsung B-die
B-die is unique because ALL the timings scale with voltage
hynix A-die has good CAS latency and tRFC, but it can't match the tRCD and tRP of a high-end DDR4 B-die kit

basically you would need a DDR5 kit that runs at around DDR5-8000 35-35-35 (pay attention to all the timings) to beat the latency of good B-die, and nothing like that exists

>>103110117
>yeah on 9900K/10900Ks
the 10900k was such a good cpu, still supported intel optane which was amazing too
>basically you would need a DDR5 kit that runs at around DDR5-8000 35-35-35 (pay attention to all the timings) to beat the latency of good B-die, and nothing like that exists
i see that now, what would you say is more preferable between hynix a die and m die then? i hear a die is better of higher frequencies and m die is better for lower/tighter timings?

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>>103109628
https://x.com/skatterbencher/status/1854418561940550050/photo/1
Its over. Amd are selling us ryzen 5 quality silicon for $480 a pop

>>103110128
>what would you say is more preferable between hynix a die and m die then
hynix 16gbit M-die doesn't really exist anymore
hynix 16gbit A-die does lower timings (this is what you get in 2x16 kits)
hynix 24gbit M-die does higher clocks (this is what you get in 2x24 kits)

the most important thing on AMD is 1. getting your infinity fabric clock high and 2. getting your infinity fabric synced with the memory controller
A-die can do 8000 but idk how much further it can realistically go

i don't feel like i'm qualified enough to speak on this subject to recommend anything, i'm still on DDR4, but you want either hynix 16gbit A-die or 24gbit M-die for sure

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>>103110059
upgrading from a 7800X3D to 9800X3D probably doesn't make sense for 4K but for 1440p theres absolutely an uplift.

>>103110078
>wait wait wait, I thought we were talking about the AM5 Epyc. the new enterprise chips absolutely have a new IOD which has nothing to do with the Ryzen IOD.
I've only remembered buildzoid talking about the server (12channel) io die and not the 4004 epyc ones

>>103110144
*one some games
*on 4090

>>103110059
I'm on 1440p ultrawide and will be making the upgrade since the 7800x3d actually holds back my 4090 in some games, especially multiplayer ones with >8 players

>>103110162
yeah but the 4090 holds back the 9800X3D

>>103110168
That's preferable. CPU bottlenecks result in stutters while GPU bottlenecks only add a bit of latency but are generally smooth.

>>103110143
yeah i get it
i was eyeing this 2x24gb kingston kit https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6GhP6/kingston-fury-renegade-rgb-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-8000-cl36-memory-kf580c36rlak2-48 since i knew kingston was guaranteed hynix
watercooling this with the 9950x3d would be very interesting for oc results

>>103110144
I'm at 1440p on a 4080. It's a great CPU but i'm already on a 7800x3D, putting the $500 towards a blackwell GPU makes more sense (even that I don't really need, but still)

Been waiting for the 9800x3d but didn't realize it launched so soon. Thinking of upgrading from a 12600k mostly for games like Rimworld.

>>103109713
Not if you buy a cheap motherboard with non-Japanese capacitors.

>>103110174
Cpu > Gpu
at least your min fps are good

>>103110184
rimjob world

>>103110184
>rimworld
Brother.

What's a decent budget motherboard for a 7600?

>>103110246
idk if it's budget necessarily, but I got a b650 aorus elite ax and it has all the features I want, great VRMs (even though the 7800x3D doesn't use tons of power, future chips might), and connectivity, zero issues so far.

b650s are good value, the x range of boards is overkill desu.

>>103110246
asrock b650m hdv/m.2

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-16-core-cpu-spotted-in-factoriobox-benchmark-database

9950x3d soon

>>103110246
Asrock has 3 cheap options from low to high: B650m-hdv/m.2, PG Lightning, and Pro RS

>>103110264
really hope its cache on both ccds

>>103110285
it might be a jack of all trades cpu, amazing gaming + productivity, 9800x3D is already pretty good at productivity for a x3D chip

>>103110294
its not gonna be cost effective
if you're doing a gamer + productivity pc you can buy 9950x right now and you get nearly the same fps on 1440p or 4k as any x3d chip
it obv costs much less than the x3d version

>>103110264
>144mb
In other words, only 1 vcache ccd? Thats a bummer

>>103110294
yeah but i mean theres no point having an entire ccd only for clock speed when they already found a way to keep the clocks high by putting the cache on bottom, just remove the scheduler and keep similar or slightly worse clock speed, if anyone wants more clock speed they can boost it with pbo

>>103110264
>Memory (256 GiB)
>4x 64 GiB at 6000 MHz
Uh, you can't buy 64gb dimms yet and 4 of them at 6000mhz? Fake and Gay

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>>103110264
hmm, the 9950x specs only list support for up to 192GB

>>103110301
it depends, 7800x3D is fine for productivity but you wouldnt get it for a rendering only rig. It's a gaming chip. If you dont render 24/7 you get an x3D. If you do you get a 9950.

But still, most people build rigs to play games, you don't need a 4080/4090 for 99% of work. 7800x3D will still do all the productivity apps and excel in games.

>>103110320
That's because the largest udimms are 48gb

Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X670E gene

where the poorfag version of this

so we have hard GPU bottlenecks now because of current GPUs. when is Nvidia going to announce their new shit?

>>103110343
what features do you care about

>>103110347
ces
Wanting more out of cpus is probably mostly a software issue, like unreal 5 needs to natively support 16 core cpus to do work without the devs needing to code anyhting or something.

>>103110348
High end 2 dims slot ram

>>103110354
it's funny how we went from CPU stagnation to x3D chips blowing shit out of the water (for gaming workloads)

>>103110357
>overpaying for a motherboard
>so you can overpay for RAM
>so you can waste countless hours tinkering like an autist
>so you can improve lows by 1% (maybe)
Mental illness

>>103110343
sapphire x870 pulse has 1dpc and is matx

>>103110378
all you need for AMD is 6000mhz cl30 ddr5, it still blows out intel using 8000mhz

but that's mainly the chip not the memory

>>103110392
b650 pulse*

>>103110378
tuning is fun though
>>103110395
8000mhz mclk, 2000mhz uclk and 2200fclk is still the fastest setup for am5 zen. if that fclk is not doable, you can do 2000mhz fclk which will synchronise 1:1 with the uclk and function like older zens

>>103110392
thats only available in china

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why yes, I am pairing my $480 9800X3D with a $70 AM5 motherboard.
let me guess, you need more?

>>103110424
then eat the itx pill and get access to the rest of the 1dpc boards

>>103110431
I wish they start addin reset button on this cheep board

>>103110343
>mATX
ASUS PRIME B650M-F
BIOSTAR B650MT
Gigabyte B650M GAMING
Gigabyte B650M D2H
Gigabyte B650M S2H
Gigabyte B650M H
Maxsun Challenger B650M WIFI
MSI B650M GAMING WIFI
MSI PRO B650M-B
MSI PRO B650M-E
>ATX
MSI PRO B650-VC WIFI II

will it go up or will it go down?

>>103110431
> atx
Nah, I need less.

>either my CPU, GPU or motherboard causes a problem that very rarely manifests
>can't reproduce it, only happens randomly
>can't determine which component is at fault
>can't do anything except waste money replacing one and hoping that was the problem
I hate this shit so much it's unreal.

>>103110505
the price only goes one way and it is up

>>103110506
its matx

what if you use 9800x3D at 1440p, but with DLSS? since the gains are at lower resolutions cause you are more CPU bound.

When can get?
Jewegg says 6am but will not buy from them.

>>103110543
I had an issue like that once and I tried swapping PSU, GPU, board, turns out the CPU itself had a tiny burn mark on it causing random bluescreens (and very rarely).

If you get a cpu/board/ram bundle then you can isolate the problem 100% to the GPU. event viewer can tell you what type of crash it is (sort by critical). if it's GPU related, it will be linked to an nvidia driver or dll.

>>103110571
Depends on your GPU, the game and specific scenes you are viewing. There are badly optimized games like Hogwarts and cities skylines that will always benefit from a faster CPU at 1440p and 2160p.

>>103110431
imagine the vrm temps

>>103110571
cpu matters for ray tracing if youre using that

>>103110578
It is GPU related but that's not useful information, both the CPU and motherboard can fuck with PCIe lanes and cause disconnects and freezes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KswGlkrNhP0

good review with all the resolutions compared

should i buy 9800x3d without the mobo and ram?
i might not be able to buy it for months because of scalpers

>>103110615
try event viewer and sort by critical, should tell you when it crashed and what file is doing it

>>103110624
nah there will be supply, CPUs aren't scalped as much as GPUs cause GPUs can also be used for AI work.

>>103110265
>PG Lightning
Hot garbage without vrm cooling. Don't get this.

>>103110543
i got similar issue, because of my undervolt.
the undervolt pass all stress test i can throw.

up the voltage everything seem good

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>>103110627
>try event viewer
I did, it didn't really help. I could swap to my old GPU but it's ancient and the error is so rare I'd have to use it for weeks to be sure.

>>103110651
>He doesn't remember zen3 the 8700k, or the 10900k

>>103110343
No reason to choose gay-sus. Choose one of these:
x670e taichi
x670e steel legend
x870e taichi lite
x870e nova

>>103110670
nvlddmkm is the nvidia error I had before too, it could also be drivers. once I had drivers that would trigger that in a crash, and reverted: then after a later update it was fine.

>>103110431
Are you too poor for b650m hdv/m.2?

So when will the 9800x3d hit the shelves? 1 week?

>>103110726
in 4 hours and 30 minutes

>>103110694
Wendell says the 9800X3D runs fine in an A620, you don't need more.

>>103109646
Big meme

What's after 9000 series AMD? 11000?
5000, 7000, 9000, 11000, etc.

>>103110743
Only one pcie slot, no good vrm cooling, no 2.5g network.

The main reason is bad vrm cooling = low longevity of board. I'd just say its bad value.

>>103109646
non issue with these chips, am5 designed to run at 95C

>>103110139
>scheduled tweet (posted at exactly 8AM EU time, where AMD market share is highest)
>received 0 replies
Ryzen 5 is simply a marketing term for AMD CPU's with 6 cores. As long as your 9800X3D has 8 working cores, why should it be labeled Ryzen 5?

>>103110773
11000 probably, maybe 10000 or if they hate themselves, they will give it AI branding especially since they're refreshing the IO die and could introduce a new NPU on ryzen

>>103110790
I am not too poor to buy a 10G board either, and I can order 8G fiber to my home. Doesn't mean I am going to do it. As a power user, 1G is already overkill.

I don’t need the x870 Riptide, right?
All I’m doing is gaming so the b650e Riptide is more than fine

>>103109800
youtube isn't capped to 1080p though

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>>103109708
>putting your plastic doll on a 4090
if only you knew how retarded this meme really was

>>103110790
an nvme heatsink is like $2, stop upselling yourself.

>>103110865
No conclusive studies exist on whether VOCs are actually bad.

>>103110675
zen 3 was 100x easier than getting a 3080

>>103110882
yeah the environmental protection agency is full of people just guessing. hey when trump puts new people in charge there no doubt it will get even better

>>103109800
Who full screens YT?

>>103110889
It's also not going to get remotely hot enough to cause outgassing sitting on the edge of the plastic shroud of a gpu
>t. Has a 3d printer and have worked with abs

>>103110843
What does B650E give you?

>>103110685
>x870e nova
I really want this board but it's sold out right now.

>>103110843
Both are the same things, only that x870 would give you usb4.

>>103111012
Get the taichi lite instead.

>>103111026
It doesn't have a backplate or a 5th m.2 slot and costs more

>>103111032
5th m.2. Get a Pcie x8 card that adds 2 to 4 m.2 cards.

So other than counting the actual number of vrm chips on a motherboard, and whether they have a heatsink or not. Is there any actual way of knowing the actual vrm type of your motherboard and how good it is?
It can't be that they all have the exact same type of vrm chips right?

I mostly play old games, but there are a few newer games I want to play that I need to upgrade for. Do I go with an RTX 4060 and plan to upgrade later, sooner, or an RTX 4070 and plan to upgrade later? I'm mostly interested in Space Marine II and, possibly, the new Monster Hunter, on a 2560x1080 ultrawide.

>>103110971
Basically everything I want. Decent quality board. Just got greedy seeing the $380 board priced down to $250.

>>103111018
Thanks, anon. I saw as much but there’s that mindset of expensive = better

>>103111061
>new Monster Hunter, on a 2560x1080 ultrawide
Get a 5090.

>>103111089
I'll have to pass. Nvidia's flagships would considerably exceed my entire system's budget.

Had to downclock my 5900x to get it to run without crashing since it started crashing really bad. Ran it on stock settings before.
3 months out of warranty. Unlucky.

>>103111119
great time to upgrade to 9950x3d

>>103111070
>new monster hunter

just wait for rtx 5000 :^)

>>103111119
>he buyed amd

>5900x
how? did you run it at 24/7 full speed?

>>103111119
did you repaste?

>>103111136
>just wait for rtx 5000 :^)
With imminent massive tariffs on Chinese goods? Are you sure about that?

>>103110865
if you have a nice animu figure why risk it

>>103111089
Wow how the fuck did I reply to the wrong post

https://videocardz.com/pixel/leaker-teases-intel-arc-battlemage-desktop-update-next-month

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

>>103111192
It's gonna be on par with rtx 2000 series

>>103109628
What is the best motherlode?

>>103111042
And make it cost even more over a nova? No thanks

>>103111136
Nah pretty light use

>>103111147
I could try that. But hardware monitor didn't suggest temps were the issue.

>>103111192
Based on what the CEO said if this doesn't sell they'll just axe discrete GPUs again.

>>103111271
>buying a gpu that might have its lifespan cut in half because intel wouldn't provide support for the next 10 years
yea it is DOA.

>KOORUI 24E3, MSI G241 2F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
so which one?
motion clarity > refresh rate and i will probably calibrate it
IPS only
i have like $200

>>103110194
literally take your fucking meds fucjing moron

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Anyone have or know anyone who have an AsCock B650 PG LIGHTNING mobo?
How is it?

Also, is the $20 diff worth it?

AsRock B650 PG LIGHTNING ($229 CAD)
https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-b650-pg-lightning-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813162077

AsRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI ($249 CAD)
https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi-atx-amd-b650e-am5/p/N82E16813162079

>>103111294
I bought VIEWSONIC VX2758A-2K-PRO-3. Its 1440p, 240hz. I haven't received it yet. Check this one out or one of the acer nitro ones.

>>103111324
>AsRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI
Take the PG Riptide. B650E comes with PCIE gen5 and this is overall a great board.

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My go-to Arctic fans seem to be in short supply right now. Are these Thermalright fans good?

The other one I'm considering is Iceberg Thermal but there's not much reviews of them and they look kind of scammy with inflated specs. Just want quiet and decently effective.

what time is the 9800X3D going up for sale?

PCIe 5 from 4 does not matter.
Just like PCIe 4 from 3 did not matter

>>103111331
Why not just get the X870 Pro RS, which also has PCIE5 and is $50 less?

>>103111353
about tree fiddy

>>103111354
4 from 3 did matter because it's 2x faster with tangible benefits in loading. 5 from 4 isn't tangible so is unnecessary for 99% of people

>>103111354
If you're planning on getting a newer Nvidia GPU within the next four years you'll probably get screwed by coercive upgrade paths with eight physical lanes that require PCIE5 to saturate.

>>103111360
Yes, get x870 pro rs wifi instead. That's what I did.

>>103111360
Pro RS is a good board I got it the day it launched. Only 2 real pcie5 devices - GPU and 1x nvme drive, but it's enough.

Can someone explain why intel needs 3x the power and 3x the cooling and still lose in all game benchmarks?

>>103111382
Bad design.

>>103111382
They're way behind on process node technology because they didn't go with EUV lithography and their competing alternative didn't work, so now they're trying to figure out how to CPU with other people's processes and they don't have the experienced engineers to not suck at it yet.

Hopefully the success AMD is enjoying with their 9800X3D leads to RDNA4 being a smash hit

This years disappointment pc is gonna be wild

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Todd: We did optimized the game!

>>103111408
>They're all equally shit
>optimized.jpg

>>103111398
>RDNA4 being a smash hit
Doubt. Even if they pull a rabbit, they need to up their software game.

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>Waited for Arrowlake because I want a low wattage/low noise PC
>Its complete and utter shit
>Waited for 9800x3d
>It threw efficiency out the window for more perfomance I dont need
>Now 7800x3d prices are ridiculous and 9800x3d is even more expensive

"Just buy, dont wait" bros, you were right. I messed up big time.

>>103111382
their engineers don't have bachelor of glue degrees

>>103111416
Nvidia drivers are worse than AMD on Windows & Linux as of 2024.

>>103111426
Just buy don't wait bros will come to the rescue by dumping their used 7800x3d's on the market for $300-400

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I have a Ryzen 9900X and I've heard that AMD added a new feature in the BIOS to be able to increase the TDP (not overclocking).

Is this right?
What's the take? Is it worth it? Any articles floating around exploring this?

>>103111445
My 4080 super disagrees but keep up the shill game
AMD GPUs will rise out the ashes any day now.

>>103111426
You know that at the same watts drawn the 9800x3d still wins in performance, right? And that you can limit power draw by setting lower voltages and lower edc and ppt, right?

>>103111499
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-boosts-zen-5-official-warrantied-tdp-to-105w-fixes-ryzen-9000-latency-issue-launches-800-series-chipsets

It just changes 65W TDP chips to 105W with presets, without voiding warranty.

>>103111327
it has literally nothing of the things i wanted except being ips you dumb fuck

Should I be getting the 9800x3D if I game at 4k?

>>103111614
not if you're already on the 7800X3D

>>103111623
I'm on a 5800x3D. Will that matter?

>>103111614
Only if you have a 4090.

>>103111626
You need a new motherboard to upgrade

>>103111626
probably fine for 4k

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>>103111614
Probs not, but a few games may disagree. Pic related.

>>103111626
Do you notice your CPU limiting your gaming performance?

>>103111614
No, but you shouldn't be gaming in 4k in the first place.

I'm looking to buy an OLED in the future but I don't understand what I should be buying.
Is 600nits good? What's HDR10? The fuck is QD OLED?

Is a 7900XT overkill for 1080p@144Hz?

>>103110042
They can price it to the sky though and they need something to differentiate it from the 7950X3D other than the clock boost.

>>103111744
yes

>9800x3d still not available in euroland
>probably gonna cost $700 or some shit
fuck

>>103109628
Someone I know is selling their 3070. Think it would be worthwhile for me to grab? Would it even be usable with my PC?

i7 8700, 16gb ram, h310m mobo (Basically 2017 parts iirc)

How much should I spend on it max?

>>103111087
Anon for that price you can get X670 or maybe even X870

>>103111789
yes its usable, what's your current gpu?

>>103111614
no
rtx 4090 bottlenecks all x3d ryzens since 5800

>>103111764
Sales should begin in about 1h worldwide. I hope atleast.

Any good 27" 8K IPS monitors on the market right now? I don't plan on playing modern AAA with this.

>>103111345
Nobody has these?

>>103111764
There will be enough supply to buy at MSRP sooner or later, scalpers aren't that much of a menace for CPUs.

>>103111614
All you need are Pentium for 4k

I just ordered 9950X because it was on sale for 640€ (normally 730€). I was waiting for black Friday but I thought that it may not even get any cheaper. was also considering 9900X for 480€ (originally 550€).

Did I make good choice? I bought it return policy in mind, so I can and I will return it if I am remorseful. Thanks EU I guess.

For other parts (will order later) I'm thinking MSI tomahawk, AIO Liquid freezer, Kingston 32/64GB DDR5, I already have 3060 so I will transfer that for now.

>>103111520
4080 super has the worst driver issues tho multiple ppl return it to my microcenter

>>103111660
What's wrong with 4k?

>>103111976
What do you use it for? Vidya really doesn't justify an extra 150 dollars for 9950X

>>103111499
PBO?

>still can't buy the 9800x3d
WHERE IS IT

>>103112020
The product's supposed to launch in 25 minutes.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/what-h-264-and-h-265-hardware-decoding-is-supported-in-davinci-resolve-studio-2122/
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/what-h-264-and-h-265-hardware-decoding-is-supported-in-premiere-pro-2120/

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

>>103112054
where av1

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AYYMDEAD CAN'T INTO HARDWARE DECODING TECHNOLO/g/Y

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neat

>>103112075
Damn
Guess I'm team blue now
AyyMDick lost

>>103112100
Australia?

>>103112110
Yes.

>>103112111
You have my sympathies.

damn, newegg's already oos?

530€ on mindfactory

>>103112075
>H265
holy boomer, nobody uses that shit

>>103112100
those greedy fuckers it should be $795

>>103112100
It should be 980$

I hate laptops but I need one because I can't move around with my desktop PC for work reasons, I'm looking for one that really has a 4060 or RX 7600 for a laptop and that is worth the €1000-€1200

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RIP

aaand it's gone
scalpers bought out everything already

how bad does the stock/shipping for these cpus usually get? i'd like to upgrade soon but i'm not ready yet. is this going to be a thing that's perpetually out of stock if you don't stalk the stores like during the gpu shortage?

still using 1600x900 because 1080p doesn't feel like much of an upgrade but I don't care about super high resolutions
should I get a higher refresh rate 1080p or regular 1440p monitor?

>>103112213
okay and next week stores will be restocked

>>103112214
2024 is paper launch
2025 is general availability
basically when you can buy rdna4 gpus should be able to pair with 9800x3d easily in stock

>Out of order before it's even listed on Newegg
Nice Jewish tricks
also what the fuck
>Verify email
??????????????????????

Which Cooler would you use for a 9800X3D?

why so many nvidia driver issues recently im gonna sell my 4070 ti super at this rate

>>103112237
anti scalping method that has never stopped a scalper before.

It's over, and I was just about to buy.

>>103112214
it gets restocked really quickly. the 7800x3d was only unavailable for the first few weeks last year
its only with gpus where you get perpetual stock problems since nvidia likes to throttle their gpus to artificially bump prices

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>>103112239
the AM3 wraith cooler.

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>>103109992
>cp is particularly well optimized to make use of the cpu
cheese pizza?

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>>103112239
>LGA1366 Intel i7 990X 980X Extreme CPU Tower Cooler, Fan + Heatsink for LGA1366
this baby here

>CanadaComputer site slow as fuck trying to check out
Please I just want to consoom

>>103112239
Thermalright peerless assasin 120se or Deepcool AG620.

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>>103112239
This

>>103112267
Soul
>>103112288
Soulless

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>>103112263
cyber party

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We did it leafbros

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>by order of the triumvirate 9800X3D is on its way

>>103112335
Why did they make him american?

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ideally you want to be 2-3 fps below your monitors refresh rate to not hit the latency penalty of vsync. since most people have 144-165hz displays, 5800x3d hits this neatly while the 7800x3d and 9800x3d exceeds this unless you manually cap it negating your performance benefits.

Is there any chance that shit gets restocked / listed on more sites today, or should I be ready to wait a while?

All right, fuck this , I'm hibernating for another year.

>>103112368
I don't think it was ever actually in stock in the first place. All of the listings were set to ship in two weeks and no sooner.

>>103112365
>vsync

>>103112368
online stores are all out of stock.
physical stores still have stock. they have them at my best buy & microcenter.

>>103111576
Anon, what should I look for in a monitor? It should be here tomorrow I think.

>>103112391
Valve says to use it
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/418E-7A04-B0DA-9032#reflex

>>103112365
you should always use nvidia's driver or rtss to cap it if you want a truly flat frametime. fps caps as implemented by games vary from good to stutter fest.

>>103112365
When you manually cap it, you also get lower power consuption. If you let vsync cap it, it does the same thing.

Who's the Sapphire of Nvidia GPUs? I'm thinking about upgrading to a 5090 but I've only bought AMD.

>>103112392
I just moved and the closest microcenter is like 70 miles away. Feels bad man. Maybe the nearest Best Buy will.

>>103112426
EVGA is ded. Maybe Gay-sus, gigashite or PNY.

>>103112426
Galax

>>103112426
asus rog strix

Are 7800x3d still worth it? I can get one for 130 euros (405) less than a 9800x3d which will retail at 530+€ in Europe.

>>103112478
yes but they'll drop further

HOLY FUARK
6.9ghz
It really is the 2500k
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-has-been-overclocked-to-6-9-ghz

>>103112478
Yes, still worth it, just forget it and buy 7800x3d.

>>103112498
>ln2
You retarded desu.

>>103112498
only 6.9? 13900k did 9.1ghz

>>103112512
So? 6ghz attainable

>>103109628
Cpu: i7700k, Gpu: gtx1070, Ram: 16GB Monitor:1080p @180hz
Use: cs2/esports/non DEI games
Budget: like $1000USD - Germany

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>>103112478
in northern europe that shit is 520e still but the 9800X3D was 560e
makes no sense

>>103112523
People have been doing 8ghz for over 10years with ln2. I don't know why this is remarkable.

First time following something like this. How often will the 9800x3d generally restock? Should I give up and wait until the next year to upgrade

>>103112531
What PSU do you have?

>>103112535
Because x3d chips have traditionally not been able to oc very well.

>>103112531
7800x3d, b650m hdv/m.2, 7900gre, 32gb ddr5-6000, wd black sn850x. See how much that is in goymany bux.

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>>103112534
>was
correct

>>103112551
Oh yeah, cool, then it makes sense. 9800x3d actually improved in this case.

X870E
X870
X670E
X670
B650E
B650

WTF is difference between these? E = little better?
B is cheaper tier, right?
But what is the difference between X670 and X870? 870 is newer?

I NEEDS IT

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Day 581 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>103112534
it's around 500 here too, so a 7800x3D at 400 is a good price I guess.

I'm so tired of the current CPU market. There's basically no good value option between Ryzen 5 7600 and the x3D chips.

And my PC died on my so I don't have the luxury to wait a hypothetical price drop in 6 months or a year.

Affordable speakers for a new build, do you have any recs?

>>103112586
Thrift store

>>103112562
b650e = x870
x670e = x870e

Don't get anything other than the four mentioned if you are not poor.

All the above 4 have pcie gen 5. x870 and x870e have pcie gen 5 and gen 5 m.2. x870e is the best of the best.

>>103112575
>There's basically no good value option between Ryzen 5 7600 and the x3D chips.
AMD should have done an N5 refresh of the IOD and Zen5 would have had a 12% gaming uplift

>>103112586
affordable -> Headphones
poor poor -> IEM
Have monies for amp etc, -> micca rb42x + some ayima a07.

>>103112557
unlucky bro t. got my order in within a minute of it being listed

>>103112586
Define affordable. Sub 1k bucks, 500, 300? Obviously the cheaper they are the better, but you can't really expect good sound quality for cheap. To that price tag you might also want to factor in a soundcard or external dac if you aren't ok with mobo audio.

>>103112606
>Headphones
I don't like having stuff plugged into my ears all the time. I was hoping for some trusted 2.1 systems in the $40-80 range

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Listen anons! Listen!

It's worth considering to wait for the 9950X3D if you could do with more cores in production apps. The new turbo mode in gaming disables the CCD that has no VCache and thus prevents inter CCD latency. It could be at least as fast as 9800 in gaming if not even faster due to it's higher clocks:

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-16-core-cpu-spotted-up-to-64-percent-faster-than-7950x3d/

>>103112619
When are they releasing 9950X3D?

>>103112625
CES

>>103112534
>>103112557
If you think thats bad, the only current option in italy that i was able to find is 595,50e. Official and store was 535 but that sold out instantly.

>>103112625
Expected early 2025. It's supposed to be announced at the CES in January. I suspect they currently reserve the highest binned chips for it.

>>103112616
40-80 bux, you'd get decent IEMs or entry level professional headphones, the professional ones are meant to be worn all day and won't cause discomfort. I have a sony mdr 7506 and a moondrop chu2, I'd recommend both. 80 to 100bux, you have great headphones and IEMs, go to /hpg/.

>>103112669
>>103112669
>>103112669

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>>103112562
Apologies for the watermark but it's the first comparison chart that showed up and wasn't bereft of pixels.

>>103112643
correct. 9800x3d uses the worst binned 8-core ccds currently >>103110139

is a 500wts PSU enough to power an i512400f/rx6600xt?

>>103112545
750watt cooler master

>>103112763
Yeah but You should look for something with 700w for future upgrades

>>103110859
There are some videos that have 1440p but pretty sure that depends on if the uploader can make a video in that resolution and upload it as such. The majority of channels upload in 1080p though

>>103111532
Sweet. Thanks.

>>103111532
>Only for the 9600X and 9700X
Bummer. I have a 9900X and wouldn't mind using higher warranty-covered TDPs than the default.

>>103111818
A GTX 970 lol

If I get the 3070 I can always put the 970 in my old i5 2500k build

What's the max I should spend on a 3070