>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUGaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3DWorkstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend, cheap X870>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: NM790Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous: >>103116006
>>103118340>Workstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950Xthese are not worksation class
>5600>3070>16gb ram>650psu>wilds comes out in 5 monthswhat exactly should I upgrade to at LEAST get 60 fps on 1080p(eventually 1440p)? Upgrading seems so bad this late into the current gen.
How's my build?I already have a GPU, an RX6600
>>103118348you're good for 1080p, wait for the new GPUs for 1440p
>>103118340>Gaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D>4 generation and 1 generation old partspc building is dead
>>103118350Btw I'm not sure about the case, psu or ssd
>>103118350change the ram to 6000 CL30970 Evo is shit.
>>103118364Which SSD would you recommend?
remember not to buy anything more than 7600 on new am5 system for 1440p
>>103118370I assume you're Australian.the KC3000 1tb is $99
>>103118380why is 1440p so fucky
>>103118387Thanks, seems like a good dealI'll get a CPU cooler with that saving
>>103118340anime pc
>>103118380thats 7800X3D>9800X3D. not Zen4 to Zen5X3D.I'd suggest better advice would be, don't buy a anything better than a 7600 on a new AM5 system unless you're planning on buying a 4090/5080/5090
>>103118350ssd is bad
>>1031183481440p 60fps native needs minimum 4080super tier and 5700x3d tier or above
>>103118392nice, people buy the 970 Evo because its Samsung but its obsolete and expensive.I'm glad you can get a better cooler with the savings.
Is there any reason to think this would be cheaper than the $150 it's currently priced at on Newegg, in the next 3-5 months? Is there anything coming out in the future that would be worth waiting for? I know Samsung is cooking up some Gen 5 PCIE M2 SSD that they started producing in Oct.
>>103118439I've only ever bought Samsung SSDs so I didn't knowWhen did they became bad?
is this shit gonna implode my pc? whys it so cheap for a 1200w
>>103118446they're not bad, its just an old design and stuff is available for cheaper.
>>103118456maybe because the cryptominers stopped buying them
>>103118405I have a 4k monitor and use DLSS upscaling so I'd need a powerful CPU regardless
>>103118446They botched several of their drives in a row that caused data corruption and/or early drive failureAffected drives>870 Evo>970 evo plus>980 pro 2tb>990 pro
>>103118482yeah but they fixed that, really the main issue to avoid the 970 Evo is because its more expensive than better Gen 4 drives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awz_CG2320E7600X3D??????
>>103118482>>103118511So what alternatives are there to the 980/990pro? I haven't bought a new SSD in a while and the last time I did, Samsung was concerned top dog with little contention.
>9800X3D out>$600 in Europe>people already complaining about lack of availability>1 per customer limitlelcalled it
>>103118533>buying a cpu with l3 cache on top of the ccd
>>103118539i mean if microcenter sells extremely cheap with a mobo+ram
fuck this, got a new case which necessitated a smaller cooler, but I now need ram which is 3mm shorter. fuck
>>103118534Wd sn850x, solidgm p44 pro, Corsair mp600 pro are great drives
>>103118543yeah you kinda need to figure the cooler/ram fittings before you buy a micro atx case
>>103118539>Buying a CPU with L3 cacheBig brainers go for the 14900k
>>103118534the KC3000 is best priced for here in Australia 7300mb read/write and DRAM. in the US its the SN850X.https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#D=1&A=1000000000000,24000000000000&m=23,32,38&sort=price&page=1
>>103118539$450 bundles exist with mobo + ram it's very cheap
>>103118533wow it's efficient
>>103118580the cache insulates it so the frequency is shittier than on non-l3 cache version
>>103118340I bought a nice Coolermaster case for $10 and it has a complete system in it. Some old socket FM2 board. The PS seems to be fried. I know I have a spare ATX PS somewhere but I can't fucking find it. Say a prayer to kek for me that I find it tonight. If there are wins on the HD I'll post them on /b/.
>>103118591everyone knows that about X3D chips
>>103118594Yeah so people need to buy the 9000 series where the l3 is on the bottom
>>103118580Cache is so OPEven the niggerclocked 9800x3d is a near chart topper there
>>103118346It used to say productivity
>>103118350Get the new Lian Li 207 case, should be cheaper
>>103118340What caused the great motherboard spike in prices?
>>103118537Alternate Netherands has it in stockhttps://www.alternate.nl/AMD/Ryzen-7-9800X3D-4-7-GHz-(5-2-GHz-Turbo-Boost)-socket-AM5-processor/html/product/100093605
I just ordered "G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series (Intel XMP 3.0)". But, I have a b660-i motherboard. it will work.... right?
>>103118631The 2024 US presidential election and the panic resulting from said presidential election due to the inevitable tariffs on foreign produced goods that will be enacted once the transfer of power is complete.
>>103118631What do you mean? mobos have been creeping up in price for the last 5 years
>>103118668It was like this before the election.
>>103118631motherboard vendors are greedy
So if my motherboard has the CPU light is on then does that mean there’s an issue with it?
>>103118592Holy shit I found it.
What's the best mid-high end mobo for 9800x3d and 5000 series? Is new shit coming with the rollout of x3d?
>>103118763X870 Pro Rs
Can a 4090 gpu hit 240hz comfortably in most games with the 34" MSI MPG 341CQPX ultrawide?
>>103118778are you okay with low-medium settingsthe answer is usually no for AAA games
>>103118778not with modern games
>>103118763>mid-high endx870e nova has 5 m.2. slots and a backplate and costs $350x870e taichi lite has 4 m.2. slots, an external clock gen and costs $400>mid rangex870 pro rsb650 steel legend
>>103118631NVIDIA's grabbing all the margin in GeForce cards, so board partners like ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte are trying to maximize profits elsewhere.ASRock can afford to price theirs less because this business is just utilizing Pegatron's existing manufacturing capacity.
>>103118801Where would you rank the MSI x870 Tomahawk?
>>103118811NTA, it's probably Pro RS / Steel Legend tier.Carbon is MSI's Taichi tier.
>>103118801>>103118767Thanks, hoping I can get the Pro RS on sale like it was a month ago.
>>103118837ace is typically taichi tier but msi seem to have a rocky relationship with amd currently and arent making many am5 boards
should I avoid the X3D cpu chips if I mainly do productivity/3D work while gaming on the side? looking to upgrade from 5900x
heres an ideanow that l3 cache is at the bottom and doesnt impact frequency, just dont release future cpus without l3 cachemake all 10000 serries cpus have loads of l3, and dont launch them overpriced just to bring the prices down next month because no one cares about non-l3 cache cpus
So here is the deal, I am building a system with a rx6600. I was originally going to go with a 550w psu but I realized that my idle power consumption is almost definitely going to be under the 10% efficiency curve.Now I am thinking of getting a 400w one instead, but I am wondering if I am cutting it too close here or not. Is the risk even worth it? Is there even any actual risk though?
>>1031188749000x3d is fine and has 0 downside other than price compared to non3d but Ryzen 9 9900x3d ain't out yet.7000x3d is pretty meh for productivity use because of it's gimped clocks so avoid those
>>103118874the only advantage is the value per dollar for your workload9950x will be cheaper than the x3d variant but other than that wont have any perf advantage
>>103118884I'm sure management at amd needs advice from a 4chan neet on what market strategy to use
>>103118340>matx mb in atx case>stock ayymd "cooler">gay ass rgb front fans>gpu with no backplate>pcb bend by power cable>tranime toy to fill all the voidclean front cable management aside, can you BE more of a retarded faggot?
>>103118904no one cared about 9000 series before x3d reviews came outamd overpricing shit is a decade old trend by now
>>103118868>msi seem to have a rocky relationship with amd currentlyNo they just chose to side with nvidia on GPUs because Radeon doesn't sell compared to them. As for the motherboard/CPU market, MSI is well known for having really good "relationship" with Intel so it doesn't surprise they're ignoring AM5 and other AMD products.
>>103118811>it's impossible for board vendors to just raise prices because they want to>it's Nvidia's fault>ASRock is an exception because they have their own manufacturing, nevermind all the others also have their own linesThe mental gymnastics people go through to excuse board vendors is staggeringIt's accepted Nvidia can swindle you anytime but it's impossible for the other multibillion dollar companies in the chain to do the same.
So is buying a 50 card going be even more fucking painful now?
>>103118934how painful could buying a 2.5k€ gpu be?
>>103118912Hindsight is 20/20. We now know that the IO Die is bottlenecking zen5 so badly that vcache even improves productivity performance.Amd themselves couldn't have known all this during the design phase and by the time it's apparent, it's already far too late.I doubt non3d zen6 will be as bad considering they're going to revamp the interconnects for the first time since zen2
reminder to start buying pc parts or any tech in general now even if you didn't plan on upgradingthe tariffs are going to hurt. a lot.
>>103118934It might be more expensive, how expensive depends on how high the tariffs are. Also get ready to welcome back and Intel monopoly as I have no doubt they'll do everything in their power to make amd and nvidia go bankrupt.
>>103118946I live in eu tho
>>103118943AMD just cheaped out and refused to give zen5 the new io die that epyc just got recently.
>>103118948the new potus is going to impose high tariffs on things imported from taiwan in general which means goodbye to reasonable amd prices>>103118953you are going to feel the ripple effect even if you aren't an american btw
>>103118953Congrats, and I'm sorry for making fun of your prices in the past.
>>103118943>Amd themselves couldn't have known all this during the design phaseyes they couldthe IO die bottlenecks zen 4 tooit has the same theoretical max bandwidth as DDR4-4000 (64 GB/s)
It's actually going to be so over for pc building/gaming in general it's not even funny
>>103118963>which means goodbye to reasonable amd pricesYeah, I know. My point was that Intel will take advantage of that and leverage their fabs to try and do to AMD what they did in the early 2000s, and I expect them to try the same against nvidia in the GPU space.
>>103118884>dont launch them overpriced just to bring the prices down next month Surge price for new product is fine. Once the demand/production capacity dies down, the prices can come down to real value. Before that, its free money sitting on table.
>>103118982As someone who has been here awhile it's bizarre seeing someone defend pricing like this.People used to completely brush off the MSRP of products as the street price was always lower for most things even at launch.How things have fallen I guess
>>103119000>used toI used to be able to buy a burger for $1 too
>>103118946why did you stupid faggots vote for the orange retard
>>103119000I've been here long enough time to understand how the market works and how production works.When a new product is released, they are still ramping up and there is a lot of demand for it. If 5,000 people/week want to buy a product but you can only produce 1000 a week, you're just leaving 4000 customers dry anyway. Instead, you just increase the price by 50-100 and the demand drops from 5000/w down to 1000/w. So now you have perfect amount of production rate and demand rate. This is most efficient. 1000 people still get served no matter what. Once the production rate increase to 2000/w, you lower the price 50-100 and then you get 2000/w demand. Supply magically doesn't increase overnight, it has be to built up over the course of months. Adjustment of demand isn't anything to do with ethics, since the you still will only serve a static number of demand due to limited demand.
>>103119050Alternatively, you could create a line/que system where people wait for weeks/months. But that line/que system is based on first in first out. With a surge price, the line/que system is actually based on needs basis. People who really really really want it will pay extra to get ahead, while people who are only considering upgrade will wait a bit for prices to fall down and think smarter.
>>103119050>econs101unsub
>>103118912well yeah because the IOD is killing gaming performance by 7% and Zen4 is still selling for well below the $/fps that Zen5 offers.
>>103118868>ace is typically taichi tierNo, it's not. The Taichi is in the same tier as the MSI Carbon, ASUS Strix-E, and the Gigabyte AORUS Master.MSI Ace is on par with ASUS ROG Maximus board. People who are willing to spend over $500 on motherboards rarely pick ASRock boards.
>>103119050Clearly you haven't been here long enough to experience when a product was released, it was fucking released, none of this soft or paper launches being the norm everywhere.It's not impractical to have stock actually ready. Maybe if they held the fuck up you wouldn't be beta testing CPUs so much. I can only guess you like this atmosphere.
>>103119050I wonder how long the 9800X3D will stay in prime "production" before they switch to selling lower core parts like the 7600X3D over the overpriced 7800X3D. We know these are all just cast-offs of EPYC chips so how much and how long they can stockpile these parts for the DIY market is an open question (they are purpose making these SKUs to sell on their own merits). The 5800X3D had a very short lifespan as a viable CPU option before being supplanted by the 5700X3D & 5600X3D at MicroCenters.
>>103118922>The mental gymnasticsIt's called reality, dumb fuck.This is why MSI, Gigabyte, and ASUS are all aggressively expanding to higher-margin segments like monitors and PSU.What did the EVGA CEO planned to do after cutting ties with NVIDIA? He wanted to focus on selling motherboards, AIOs, peripherals, and PSUs.That's called reality.
>>103119038The average American(non retarded) was convinced to vote for him because he's gonna make the economy better and everything will be cheap once again. The boomers have long been brainwashed by facebook/twitter into voting for repubicans because the demoncrats will kill them all and replace them with immigrants or some shit. The retarded young Americans have been brainwashed by tiktok/twitter as well as their favorite streamer into voting for him because of either muh memes or muh wokeism.
>>103119115You're a retard that swallows the WEF propaganda. You're not actually smart. You just match what the elites want. Its not a coincidence. You are the propaganda. People who dont subscribe to WEF propaganda aren't in the propaganda. Thats why you communist freaks lost
>>103119126enjoy your tariffs bro
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>50% increase in price due to tariffs>another 25% just because JewsIt’s so over I don’t even know what to say>>103119126You zoomers are so retarded it’s unreal.
>>103119095>ASUS Strix-Ethats only in recent times thoughaorus master = maximus/crosshair hero = msi ace = asrock taichi was historically how it stacked up
>>103119136Nah, its just you being a WEF propaganda tranny thats out of touch with reality.
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2Can the VRMs/single CPU 8-pin slot handle a 9800X3D? Sorry, haven't built in ages. This 750Ti is finally meeting its end.
>>103119107So it's ok to be swindled because hardware companies need their inflated margins.Got it
Surely the Tariff prices arent going be that badPlease don't tell me I have to buy a 4080 super now
>>103119126There's going to be higher inflation in the US because importers are going to pass the tariff cost to American consumers.Cost of production materials are already rising because US-based manufacturers are trying to get ahead of Trump tariffs by overstocking imported materials.
Don’t worry bros the 285k won’t increase in price at least haha…
>>103119126I don't want tariffs raising prices on my shit, I don't want corporations given free reign to fuck me over as they wish. I don't want regulatory agencies gutted, I don't want social welfare gutted. I do want Medicare for all so I can stop being fucked by insurance companies and not have to beg charities for a handout when I have to get surgery or go through chemo. I just want to live a decent fucking life.
Will the 5700X3D go up in price and out of stock like the 5800X3D? I don't feel the need to upgrade my 3600 yet but I don't want to miss it and be forced to get AM5.
>>103119138>historically how it stacked upGet with the times then. No one gives a shit about your outdated product tiers.And people were always less willing to pay a premium for ASRock boards, including your boomer timeline.
>5090 was most likely going to be $2000 before the tariff talkoh god what’s going to happen
>>103119136>You zoomers are so retarded it’s unreal.Nta, just a bystander watching US from the sidelines. You're subscribing to the totalitarian left think and are insane to the rest of the world. Those voting right seem more like normal people to us.
>>103119144Easily, the 9800x3d uses like 150w max and that's on cinebench, on gaming you're looking at like 80-100w.
>>103119165theres loads of am4 users who wont upgrade entire system but will buy a single <200€ cpuamd has no reason to not take their money
>>103119143Why is it always some /pol/cel faggot injecting trannies into conversations completely unrelated to them? Can you please shut the fuck up? Continue spazzing out over whatever it is has triggered your autism, by all means, but are you incapable of doing that without bringing up trannies?
>>103119144yeah that single 8 pin can handle up to 300W easily
>>103119150The orange man is proposing 60% tariffs on stuff imported from China and Taiwan. If you wait to buy stuff next year you WILL be fucked in the ass with no lube.
>>103119145Processor designers and board manufacturers are all in this business to make a profit.Consumers have the power to collectively set acceptable pricing limits.Overpriced boards remain overstocked, and end up getting discounted.Launch prices will always be expensive to maximize profits.Get it.
>>103119126Because taxes is going lower all of those goods will too. In fact, the Biden economy inflation mixed with Trump economy tax cuts are likely to see prices stay where they are.
>>103119197Most Americans won't see those tax cuts, it's for corporations and the ultra-wealthy.
it’s going to be cheaper to fly to another country and buy pc parts lmaoooooo I can’t breathe I am dying >>103119197>esl and tardedA tale as old as time
>>103119168>>103119192The right play is immigrating to Canada
>>103119173It's never been under 200E in my country, it just hit 200 now. It's literally 2 days worth of pay but I'm too cheap to pull the trigger.
>>103119197The tax cuts are for rich people you fucking RETARD. Normal people will not see any tax cuts. You will eat the shit trump puts in your mouth and like it, but hey, eggs will be cheaper or some shit.
>Intel won the GPU war because they're American
>>103119211its been like 170€ on aliexpress with vat included so
>>103119168You will still consoom like a good goy. I bet you also pay for games, faggot.
>>103119197Only millionaires and up will pay less, average people and middle class will pay more.
>>103118340MOMMY
>>103119228>Aliexpress>VAT includedLol. Lmao even.
Looks like Battlemage is going to save pc gaming after all. What a turn of events.
Building my first PC since 2012I'm excited about having zero cable msata drives and no power supply for HDDAlso going to go from DDR3 to DDR5My current PC is kind of fine although there are games I can't play but with the Trump election I've decided to buy
>>103119179>spout WEF propaganda>NOOO WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME OUT!!!Fuck off reddit>>103119206>>103119218Retard. >no tax on overtime>no tax on tips>no reduced tax over allIt means Americans will now have even more money to spend. While teh tariffs will force the companies to manufacture and produce goods in America, which gives more jobs to America, which leads to more money for Americans.
I just got a new monitor (Dell G2724) and I noticed that on black screens there seems to be a reddish tint to the right side of the display (most prominent in the corner) and a blueish tint to the left (same, also in the corner). If I bring my face up to either edge of the display and then look at the opposite edge I notice the same tint across the entire screen (so looking from the left the display looks reddish, from the right it looks bluish). Should I assume there's something wrong with it or is this normal?
>>103119251This is what someone with a low iq looks like if anyone was wondering
>>103119222They just need 18A to actually work and they basically have a monopoly the moment tariffs drop. Nvidia will survive but I suspect they'll lose massive market share everywhere. AMD will either have to focus on alternative markets, asia/jeetland/yurop/latin america, or just straight up kill their gpu/cpu division and focus on datacenter only. The ones getting fucked the hardest will be us consumers.
What's a good value mouse which will last me a long time?I've outclicked two mice before
>>103119256Keep spouting your WEF propaganda. You're outside of your echo chamber, reddit
>>103119256>t. npc
>>103119258The g502x plus pro or whatever it’s called uses a new type of switch that doesn’t double click and its wireless
>>103119258Razer Naga Trinity
>>103119246?
>>103119251>>no tax on overtime>>no tax on tips>'Trump ends his term as president with half of his campaign promises unachieved'https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=truehttps://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-us-president-promise-1.5784117
>>103119263>>103119258Get optical switches or easily swappable switches (ROG Gladius)
>>103119272>politifact>cbcNice communist propaganda site. Next you'll say you're a woman after castrating yourself
>>103119165>up in priceunlikely, at least not on aliexpress.>out of stocknot until amd stops producing zen3 epycs, for which there are long term contracts.
>>103119196Your whole post kinda ignores the fact they made money just fine previously. The fact prices are still as high as they are on what is settled tech at this point (pice 5 and ddr5 aint new) just screams of them sticking the tip in as they psyop'd you into "new normal" pricing.
I feel like every part is super easy to pick except for motherboards
>>103118708I think it's fucked. I opened the old PSU and found scorch marks and melted solder. I hooked up a different PSU that I think is good and not only would the board not power on, the PSU emitted a high pitched whine. I wonder if a short on the board killed the PSU instead of the other way around.Too bad. It was a decent socket FM2 board that would have made a nice HTPC.Still got a case for $10.
>>103119258i like my g305 but the scroll wheel sometimes backscrolls so idk how reliable it is. theyre cheap asf so you can just replace them though
>>103119287I bought a mobo that was on sale some black friday, and googled that its vrm is good relative to the packthen later its ethernet port stopped working randomly, so that was great
>>103119269I order from them pretty much monthly and that text is always an outright lie.
>>103119286>Your whole post kinda ignores the fact they made money just fine previously.They're making up the lost margins on video card sales in other components.You expect corporations to just settle as losers, like you?
should I actually buy parts now or are you guys trolling
>>103119287Its just a matter of what you need really.>how many ram modules do you need64GB is prob max for most, and 32GB x 2 is enough to fit in the 2 ram slots. >how many PCIe slots do you needProbably 2 is enough for most. 16x for GPU and 8X or 4X for extension.>how many m.2 slots do you need3-4 is ideal but 2 is prob fine for most (if not pcie extension can add 4 more slots)After these considerations, the main consideration is form factor, which you pair with case aesthetics.
>>103119299yeah well the governments around eu might get upset over not getting paid and block a storefront that breaks the law
>>103119304if you're American yes.
>>103119286It's called capitalism my friend, companies are alwaysooking to make as much money as possible because that's what their investors demand. Prices will never go down unless a 3rd party interferes whether it's another competitor or the government enforcing a price limit.
>>103119303why do I feel you're an island gook openly defending corpos?
>>103119304You need to buy them before tariffs drop, hopefully we'll be warned beforehand but it's not guaranteed.
>casually beats every ryzen cpu in multicore/$ (except the 9900x kinda)>refuses to elaborate>oxidizesWhat a chad.
>>103119327I accept your concession.
>>103119304Taiwan is where the main fab for TSMC is. TSMC makes chips for literally everyone. Even the chinks and russkies spying and interfering with us. Trump wants to either impose tariffs on them or force them into deals that are advantageous for Americans. So TLDR is It’s likely that electronics will increase in price starting next year.
can you imagine if CPUPro kneels to the 9800X3D
>>103119341I really feel bad for Intel buyers over the last 4+ years.
>>103119352Alder lake was a good buy
>>103119304There's war over the horizon in Taiwan waters. Tarriffs are there to force American companies to prioritize fab over to US for stability.
>>103119319I'd be fine with thatI'd be the first in line to buy a board released by a mainland Chinese brand if Intel and AMD was actually allowed to let them be partners for high end desktop boards.They are still dealing with salvaged/black market chipsets and reversed engineered BIOS because the US restricts high end shit.
>>103119352i don't. 8700k, 9900k and 10900k were great at the time they released
>>103119344>he doesn't refute it, he is proud of itgook confirmed
>>103119363Then shut the fuck up and buy a Biostar board.
>>103119355Raptor was fine if you reigned the thing in like you should have done the moment you saw the "up to 6.2ghz" marketing. Physics do not bend to intel's will. That shit is retarded.
>>103119371Biostar is Taiwan
>>103119373There’s literally nothing wrong with 6.2ghz and the problem was entirely because of 1.6v vid requests as buildzoid said
>>103119377It's for poorfags like you. Imagine being priced out of ASRock motherboards.
>>103119368People should've gone to physical stores instead of just trying to buy online, both the best buys in my city still had stock when I dropped by on my way home from work.
>>103119378>the problem was entirely because of 1.6v vid requests as buildzoid saidwell yeah it needs 1.5+ V to run 6.2ghz so to compensate for vdroop it requests 1.6 V
>>103119379I have no problem affording anythingPC's where always about value since the compatible days, even on the high end.No reason for it to change. If you like inflated prices that's on you.
>>103119366Amd revisionism is funny. Everything intel still shit all over amd until the 3950x came out
>>103119404Wrong it still hits 6.2 with 1.5v
>>103119414Without spiking to 1.6v requests*You can literally see buildzoid test this with his gay osiliscope videos where he rambles for 6 hours
>>103119407Which is why he said >past 4 years
>>103119421Alder lake is good and that came out in 2021
>>10311940710900K is almost 4 and a half years oldit's objectively a legendary CPU, the only complains people had with it was price and muh power draw (they hadn't seen anything yet)>>103119414>>103119419depends more on your VID table than anything elseintel should have just put a hard VID limit of 1.55 V than AMD, the CPU would rather crash than request more voltage
>>103119426like AMD*i'm sure you get what i'm trying to say
>>103119406>PC's where always about value since the compatible daysNo it's not, the early IBM & Apple PCs were for wealthy white familiesPC market is shrinking you dumb retard, the days of increasing profit through higher sales volume have been long over, that was how motherboard and video card manufacturers kept prices low.It's all downhill since the pandemic lockout period was over.
>>103119426>1.344v 5.6ghzdamn that's a pretty poor sampleFshoulda gotten an R batch 14900k that tops out at 1.42v 6ghz and 1.3v 5.6ghz
>>103119407I remember the early days>Zen 1/+>ok it's kinda just Ivy Bridge IPC but wow 8 cores we should buy it just to help amd!>Zen 2>Holy Fuark 3600 is basically 90% of an i7-8700 at less than half the price BUY BUY BUY for every budget to mid range pc!!! The value! AMD is based!>Zen 3>uhhmm $300 for a 6 core is kind of stinky.. hey look Intel is letting us ignore memory limits on locked parts with the 500 series chipset.. even the low end boards... hmm i5-10400f with 3600 ram is 90% as good as a 5600x for less than half the price....BUY BUY BUY!!!! INTEL BEST VALUE!!!Since zen 2 amd are slowly turning into what intel was circa 2009-2017. They just don't bring good value these days.
>>103119438zen3 era was wild. intel flooded the market with $300 10-core 10850Ks and $250 10700Ks just to compete
>>103119438They will fall due to hubris just like any other corporation that takes part in capitalism. Eventually there will be another underdog and the cycle will continue.
>>103119425True, I still love the 12100 and 12400 as an efficiency autist
>>103119445Yeah it was a great time to buy either brand
>>103119430>No it's not, the early IBM & Apple PCs were for wealthy white familiesI'm talking about the fucking compatibles, you know the PC's made out of the same basic components because IBM was ripping people off so hard?>PC market is shrinking you dumb retardSomeone finally admitted it. Hope you actually believe that and aren't just saying it to make a point.
I feel like buying a 14900ks to use on my z690 board is the smartest upgrade path for me…
>Kills Nvidia and AMDThis nigga owns stock in Intel theres no way around it
>>103119466better spend the money towards 9950x3d system
Brand new deepcool 850w psu is making a buzzing sound after a few hours of gaming. Even after shutting down the pc, it still makes that sound if the switch is turned on. It goes off after I unplug the power cable. An IT repair friend suggests that it could be because of my wiring at home, and that the psu is not getting clean power. But my pc is connected to a UPS. In theory, the UPS should take care of fluctuations, right?
>>103119466Remove the s and it's a pretty good value at $430 tbdesu. Better than a 7950x and cheaper. Worse than a 9950x but MUCH cheaper. Reminds me of the Phenom II x6 in terms of its market position.
>>103119471Intel is BACK, baby
>>103119476My socket
>>103119466I suggest you go read up on the horror that is 14900KS binning on overclock.net before committing to it
>>103119489My breakers
>>103119488>quoting bible versesThat nigga is going through it
>>103119493>update bios>problem solvedwow
>>103119497Intel is the white mans computer parts
>>103119499missing the pointthose chips are barely better binned than an average 14900K and costs $250 more. you have a better chance at good quality silicon finding R batch 14900K chips than getting a random 14900KS
>>103119466of course, intel has fixed the degradation issuetrust the plan
>>103119476Is your ups pure/simulated sinvewave
>>103119462ESL faggot, and the high-end boards out today are way overbuilt compared to the older models.A basic bitch ASRock HDV/M.2 is good enough to set respectable memory OCing records.You're a dumb fuck retard if you think the PC hardware market isn't shrinking, there's a reason most PR puff pieces focus on the dollar amount of the market, not the quantity sold.Not to mention the extended socket support period for AMD's desktop platform.
>>103119515If not they now offer a 5 year warranty on both gens as an extra show of faith to go with the bios updates.
On one hand, trying to fix the over reliance on chink parts is good, but I feel like doing it now is a bad idea and probably not a decision made with good intentions. Also why now when Wilds is about to come out and I need to upgrade? It’s not fair.
>>103119476Most UPS units will just pass wall power until it detects an under or over voltage event. Then it will raise or lower the voltage depending. If you bought a line interactive PSU this is what it does.They don't really do anything to fix "dirty" power unless it's over or under voltage.Only online UPS units do anything to deliver clean power all the time.
>>103119525Can't wait to play it at 72p upscaled to 640x480 with framegen to get 50 fps on a 5080
>>103119525Really tough choice right now with me and my 3060. I was waiting for the 50 series but now I feel like im being forced to buy a 4080 super or get fucked next year
>>103119489What you have there is not a UPS. Get an actual one from APC or Eaton and make sure it uses a sine wave.
>>103119516Sorry, not sure. It's this one though.
>>103119537Everything in every image you post looks like it's from the 80s
>>103119495your fire insurance premium much be wild
>>103119530One friend suggested that I should install a new breaker just for the pc as well as getting a stabilizer. Will this help?
>>103119547Try a different ups. If it still does it then just get another pay. If it still does it then, ur house required.Or live with the buzzing, it’s probably harmless.
The pc itself. 7600x & 4070 ti super. Is it drawing too much power?
gotta love it when retards do tariff doomposting
>>103119561>payPsu >ur house requiredGet your house rewired Holy fuck auto correct is annoying as shit >>103119568>doompostingIt’s not doomposting when it’s literally going to happen.>>103119568
>>103119568How is it doomposting
>>103119568If gpus go up in price I'll just pay the higher price what are you poor
>>103119568they don't even realize how much shit comes from Vietnam or just any place other than China or Taiwan
>>103119587Ah yea, that very popular chip fab in Vietnam that everyone uses, how could I forget?!
>>103118340What is this thing
>>103119597It’s called a PCB retardbro…
>>103119568>>103119578*crickets*
>>103119591TSMC is in the US now, I was more taking about mobos, RAM and even GPUs.GPUs may not even be hit depending on how the tariffs are laid out in regard to amount of content from China/Taiwan. a GPU chip is a tiny part in the entire assembly.
>>103119604Is it like a second motherboard or something
>>103119619This is the type of question you ask google.
>>103119619>>103119631ChatGPT in on the case
>>103119643Yeah it’s right. I forgot this is 2024 and google sucks dick. Ask basic ass questions like this to ChatGPT.
>>103119568Trump will just back down at the last minute like he's done before with some of his other actually dumb ideas.
>>103119675The us economy was flourishing under him.
>>103119299Aliexpress handles the VAT payment for EU countries with IOSS system for items under 150€ pre-taxes. Over that it's up to the buyer or the seller.
So according to the tarrif, sapphire GPUs are more expensive but powercolor GPUs are not.
>>103119497Quoting the Bible is Pat's thing, basically.
>>103119587i have good news and bad news. The bad news is Trump used to threaten to expand trade war to vietnam due to its trade with china, back in 2019. The tariff threat is still here due to him returning.Good news is it's not all in the bag for tech company investing in vietnam. Recently Intel, and other companies backed down their proposal to invest more in vietnam for production, instead choosing others like poland or malaysia
>>103119876hey those 1% lows are marginally better, one some games
>>103119876Just like the other X3Ds, it varies on the game. No difference in Starfield but huge difference in WoW.
If I get the lancool 207 should I add extra fans?Which kind and where?Or is it decent enough out of the box
>>103119905the point of the lancool is it already has fans so you dont need to
>>103119488Kek, I saw that and was laughing my ass off at how shameless he is begging for gibs
>>103119876Just stick with pentium at 4k
Hey this actually works
old build from 2016:>i7 6700k>1070>16gb ddr4wanna upgrade at some point in the next year, how long should I wait? will 100% change cpu+mb, thinking I can maybe run with the 1070 for a bit longer
Anons, I'm getting my 9800X3D (500EUR)tommorow! I'm so hyped! My first new build after 7y!... nowy what?
>>103120014now buy a 5080 in February
>>103120036But i already own 4080S I think I'll update if at all to 6080/5080S
>>103120048but anon, the more you buy the more you save
>>103120056Then why did you suggest he get the 5080 and not the much superior 5090
Will black friday cyber monday be a disappointment?
any custom watercooling enthusiasts in this thread can tell me if its possible to use 1 240mm readiator on top (alphacool xt45) and 1 120mm on the read (also xt45) instead of a 360mm radiator?why wouldnt it work?for a case that can only take a 240mm radiator on top
>>103120061sorry anon but only exclusive Nvidia Gold members can be given a chance to purchase a 5090, if you sign up now maybe you'll be contacted to be allowed to buy one in two or three years.
>>103120082it always is
>>103119619its like the gpu's motherboard
>>103120082I don't think I've had a good November/December holiday haul since like 2016.
>>103120096There might be fitment issues with thicker rads but there's nothing stopping you in principal. By the way, if you're doing this because of the whole tube orientation thing, you don't need to worry about that on a custom loop - proper reservoir placement will take care of it. That is to say, feel free to run a 360mm front rad if it's easier.
>>103119218It's the corporations getting the tax cuts that allow prices to go down, dumb shit. Also, fuck the uniparty and cry somewhere else.
>>103120200>he unironically believes in trickle down theory
>>103120200Just how underage are you? If you are old enough to vote I feel sorry for you.
Gentlemen, the results are in
>>103120226HOLY FUCKING KEK
>stupid people voted in a retard that will make their lives and their children’s lives significant;y worseTale as old as time. I just wish it wasn’t going to directly impact my hobby this time. Oh well.
>>103119991What sort of budget do you have for the upgrade?
>>103119161Cope with some rope, you lost retard.
i have this shitbox:B550-PLUS16GB RAMRYZEN 5 3600RX 480 4GBI want to upgrade the GPU, i play in 1080p and usually i upgrade every 5+ years, im thinking either the 3060 12gb or the 4060 16gb
>>103120185>if you're doing this because of the whole tube orientation thing,no just experimenting>>103120226lol negative 4000 percent value
>>103120270Those are about as strong as I'd go without a CPU upgrade. Could maybe swing a 4070 if you were to add a 5600(X) or up to a 4080(S) with a 5*00X3D. Not that you should on 1080p but it's good to know.
I'm going to build a new computerShould I wait for black friday?What usually goes on sale?
>>103120304So for a future upgrade path, the 4070 is preferable? And i if i had to choose the 3060 or 4060, whats the best value in the long run?
>>103120306>Should I wait for black friday?No.>What usually goes on sale?Shit that they bought specifically for BF and marked up for a month or two.Usually the "best" deals you'll get are on peripherals and other tertiary components. Don't go in expecting to see big cuts on the main hardware.
>>103120226>11th of 1468I find that hard to believe. This CPU should at best be in 735th place. How can the government let amd get away with their viral marketing??
>>103118340Why people put figures inside their case?
Should I get a pure power 11 psu or a seasonic g12 gc? The oem for them is FSP and Helly respectively.
>>103120239Ideally less than 1000€ but idk much about prices these days so I'm flexiblealso this is for 1080p
>>103120318Consensus is that the best upgrade path for AM4 users is a 5700X3D plus whatever card fits the budget and performance requirements. If that's too much then maybe a (used) 5600 plus some card /up to/ a 4070. As mentioned, without a CPU upgrade the card ceiling will be in the 3060-4060Ti range.>if I had to choose the 3060 or 4060...It's nuanced. The 3060 has more VRAM (there is no 16GB 4060) but the 4060 gets frame gen. If you want to be technical about it, choose based on what games you play. If neither feature matters to you then I'd say to take the 4060 because it's newer. More support for driver updates and, FWIW, it's a lot more efficient.The proper question to ask is how much money are you willing to throw at this thing?
>>103120213It does happen when corporations are trying to shore up losses and appeal to the public. For example, they stop price gouging in order to make the politicians with policies they support look good. It's not the trickle down from the rich that I'm talking about, at least not in the sense of Reagonomics. This is the balance I was talking about. It's just risk vs. reward. The real question is if you think the corporations and ultrarich will go after the short term profit gains over making their posterboy look good or not.
>>103120226>Market share: -7879%Holy shit, 80 timelines worth of 9800x3d must be buried in trash dumps across the world
>>103120380What country? €1k can get you a pretty solid 1080p rig in western Europe. If PCPP covers your region I'll throw an example list together for you.
>>103120270get a 6650XT
How limiting is 12600k/3600 ddr4 to a 4090? Noticing my benches are a bit lower than average and those two are the oldest parts in my system. Going to upgrade if the availability ever stabilizes
>>103120396corporations do not give a fuck
>>103120390My budget is around 400 €. I dont think i will upgrade the cpu soon, and i dont play graphically demanding games often, and that is why i managed with a shitty GPU for so long. But now i want to be at least able to play the latest stuff, even if not maxed, if i want. I was torn among the 3060 and the 4060 because as you was sayng, the 4060 is newer and prolly more longeve at this point, but i dont know if it is sensed to wait for the 5k series and see how much the prices will drop, if they do.
>>103120420Quite a bottleneck even at 2160p
>>103120407Spain, idk about PCPP
>>103120421They have entire PR teams that would beg to differ.
>>103120420>Noticing my benches are a bit lower than averagego into the BIOS and manually enable gear 1 DDR4-3600 is slower than DDR4-3200 on auto settings
>>103120448the PR team is there for them to get away with shit, not to actually not do shit that makes them money
>>103119488Yeah and it takes like five years from planning to product release.
>>103120226Where's the unhinged rant about amd marketers. Its just not the same without it.
>>103120473cpupro couldn't take it anymore and is drafting up a deal with AMD now he will only complain about intel marketers
>>103120439Done: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/rF9MnpNot fully optimized but pretty close. Have 80€ left in there for some minor upgrades - maybe a better mobo/cooler/case but that's up to you.If you can reuse some components you could maybe go up a card tier. Case and cooler should be fine, and the SSD if it's 1TB+, but I'd be slightly wary of the PSU at that age.
>>103120014Where do you live? In Italy it hasn't even hit shelves yet I think.
>>103120014I just picked mine up and am on the way back to install it
I've had a Corsair TX650 PSU for the past 14-15 years and never had issues with it.Got an RM850x Shift the other day because it was dirt cheap on sale.Did I waste my money or is my old PSU going to blow up any day now?
>>103120506im sorry to tell you that you were were trickedgames are actually gpu bottlenecked and a 7600 would give you the same experience at 1440p
>>103120514not true.
>>103120492Nice, thanks anon
>>103120514>7600? What do you need a 5600 for? 3600x is overkill for everything known to man
>>103120431I think you'd want a better CPU for the latest AAA games. They got a lot more demanding on that side when the new console gen released. Something like a used 5600+3060 should be possible at €400 depending on local market conditions. Since you're comfortable with AMD cards you ought to check prices on the 6700/7600/XT too. AMD are usually better value at the low-end.
>>103120514this guy really fucking loves horizon zero dawn and the last of us
>>103120516very true
>>103120516>>103120525>>103120528is this a result of the conspiracy of cpu benchmarkers who only ever do 1080p "to showcase differences" more visiblythey really need to move onto 1440p testing so people can actually go "I should buy the cheapest cpu on that list that gives me reasonable performance if I own a 4090"
>>103120559Ironic poorfagging is just poorfagging anon
>>103120559They should actually.Otherwise their benchmarks don't say much except some imaginary best case scenario.
>>103120559reviewers do 1440p testing toothe point of CPU reviews is relative comparisons, not for finding out how much FPS you're going to get in a particular gamethere's far too many variables affecting that (GPU model, GPU manufacturer, driver version, case airflow, etc)
>>103120573>the point of CPU reviews is relative comparisonsto be fair some of the point is to inform consumers what cpu they oughta buy
Does using 2 identical sets of 2 ram sticks decrease the performance or increase the latency? Or would they perform the same as if it was a set of 4 sticks?
>>103119876I'm seeing a lot of these "muh 1080p" posts it's actually hilarious
>>103120596If you keep all timings and clocks the same, it actually reduces latency because of memory interleavingIn practice, 4 sticks will hinder your max clocks and will reduce your memory bandwidth. You could technically keep similar timings but on ddr5 this isn't really possible as the minimum allowed primary timing is 28 clock cycles
>>103120608are you ever gonna post like, a chart, that showcases how much fps you get going from 5700x3d to 9800x3d on 4070 at 1440p or are you going to just keep quietly giggling to yourself?
>>103120623>4070 at 1440pBold of you to assume everyone uses that GPU at their resolution
>>103120637wat
>>103120637>theirThat*
>>103120637He's a poorfag, I doubt he even has a 4070 or a 1440p monitor
>>103120596>Does using 2 identical sets of 2 ram sticksassuming they are identical is a big assumption
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-sells-out-retailers-overwhelmed-as-scalpers-step-inOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>103120706anyone who buys from a scalper is a moron
>>103120710apparently the one time amd underprices a cpu it leads to shortages
>>103120725>underpricesit was priced exactly correctly
>>103120706>still in stock at multiple britbong locationshonestly you yanks would probably get it cheaper buying the UK one and getting it shipped back to america if you can do that somehow
Im actually expecting the 9950x3d to be a beast of a cpu at this point, theres the 2 x ccd l3 cache and its gonna be interesting to see if the increased amount of l3 helps or if the latency is an issue
>>103120752It is underpriced relative to supply. If it was properly priced the stock would flow but there would be no money in scalping.
how do i cut down the price
>>103120767it's not gonna help in gaming because the game stays on CCD1maybe if AMD introduced something similar to intel APO they could move some utility threads to CCD2 and get performance gainsi expect it to clock to at least 5.5-5.7 GHz, which will put it at the top of the charts, but there will be no real world difference
>>103120752No anon if scalping is profitable then the product is underpriced by definition.
>>103120774forgot to mention the price; 2858$~
>>103120780scalping is profitable at pretty much any price as far as computer parts are concerned, there will always be someone who's got the money to buy one or two extra components and sell them for double the price, and there will always be someone desperate enough to buy themit's less underpriced and more understocked
>>103120774Well for one you probably shouldn't be spending 200$ on a case but you are building a 3k PC so you are already too far off from a reasonable use of your money.
>>103120779I think there is potential to leverage the cache on the "unused" CCD with software integration. Use it as "L4" across the IF, for example. I don't actually want them to try that though, except maybe as a technical exercise, because custom software integration is a massive pain for the end user. Just avoiding XBGB is enough of an improvement.
>>103120458>PR teamsFinancial analysts in PR teams are also useful for calculating blowback, but you're likely correct and Public Relations isn't the proper field to list for this stratagem.However, it is why Reagonomics worked in the first place, or the bailouts (under bush, obama et al) reconsolidated wealth into the upper echelons. Just look at gas prices per president; they do it every cycle. "Muh oppression" is feeds liberal boners to fight for immigration, which brings stagnant wages, low trust society for division to keep focus on anything other than the wealth transfer, lower quality of life as distributed through increased costs of living. Another example would be when Dems get too brazen for their econonic policies like during the Occupy Movement, they get punished. so they distract this with more even more oppressed minorities (LGBTQIA+) as a distraction. Or when Dems, try to get cocky in tax policies etc switch with a Republican that opposes those things while having those immigrant voters and previously oppressed swear off their allegiance with a betrayal vote, and bring prices down so more wealth consolidation and a bigger piece of the pie can be gained for the 1%. It's modus operandi for the uniparty at this point. Even now, they're pushing only the "educated" population votes for Dems to keep the segments of the population firmly planted in their tribalist positions, thus preventing any unionization efforts because it shuns the working class by design.All in all, the division of the population is firmly in place to be harvested with greater wealth going to the top wealth holders, and their winning the war because the tribalist division of issues plays into the duality strategy of picking what you want the media to focus on and because the tribalists within the divisions can't see the war while it's raging.
>>1031205962 sticks are almost always better, and empty dimm slots can even cause problems sometimes.Ram has pretty great resell value so most of the time selling your old set makes more sense that getting another pair to add to it.It also saves you the money from getting a 4 slot mobo and lowers power consumption.
>>103120789>it's less underpriced and more understockedYou're getting there. It's /either/ underpriced /or/ understocked. Two sides of the same coin.At present, demand for the product exceeds local supply which creates an arbitrage opportunity (which we call scalping). If the MSRP was at at the equilibrium price then no such opportunity would exist in the main. Alternatively, if supply was sufficient to meet demand then the equilibrium price would be lower (with a soft floor at MSRP).
>people cannot wait four days for AMD to restock the 9800X3DFOMO is silly.
>>103120825That's not what I'm askingThe cl28 ram set I want doesn't go to 64gb, it is a 2 stick set of 32gb totalSo I want to double that up because I need at least 64gb for my work>>103120618So are you saying I should or should not?It's DDR5 6000MT cl28Would shoving 4 sticks of the same exact brand and model in my motherboard and just enabling EXPO not work or hinder performance?
>500€ oleds in 25.5% vatlandrip miniled as a technology
>>103120938This is the ram I wanna double up on
>>103120938If you're not into manual memory overclocking, stay away from 4 sticks. 2 sticks of high density 2x32gb or 2x48gb memory will be much easier to run and will have the interleaving benefit of 4 sticks while being able to run at 6000mhz+ without stability problems
>>103120975I don't need it to run at higher than 6000 since 9800x3d doesn't scale that wayBut I can't find DDR5 6000mt with cl 28 sets of 2x32gb or 2x48gb anywhere
>>1031209904 sticks is difficult to even run at 5200 without FAFOing in the bios
I've been using my system with a Ryzen 5 7600's iGPU to test it out. Will I need to use DDU or something to uninstall the AMD iGPU drivers when I get my proper GPU or can I just insert the new GPU and let Windows do its thing?
>>103120990>But I can't find DDR5 6000mt with cl 28 sets of 2x32gb or 2x48gb anywhereThose were announced by gskill about 3 months ago but arent available yet
>>103121001FuckWhy isn't there DDR5 6000mt with CL28 at higher than 32gb sets?>>103121036FuckDid they announce a release date?
>>103121033I think you can enable and disable iGPU usage in BIOS.
>>103121042>https://www.gskill.com/community/1502239313/1722321351/G.SKILL-Announces-Ultra-Low-Latency-DDR5-6000-CL28-DDR5-Memory-KitsNo release date given. They tend to release products silently and they kind of just pop up on newegg and on gskill's product listings at>https://www.gskill.com/products/1/165/425/Trident-Z5-Royal-Neo-DDR5-AMD-EXPO
Does the 9800X3D work worse on 6400mt ram or above because of some ratio? Or doesn't it make a difference?
>>103121158you can force 1:1 mode at any mhz above 6000. golden samples can run 6600 at 1:1 while a 99% of am5 ryzens can do 6200 at 1:1.so a safe justwerks kit would be 6000cl30
Do non modular PSU have a slightly higher idle power consumption? Like some devices that still consume a little power when connected even when not turned on.
>>103121158https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcn_nvWGj7U
>>103121207no, why would you think they'd be any different to modular PSUs?
>>103121196Is this for manual tinkering?I just wanna enable expo and be done with it
>>103121371>>103121371>>103121371
After buying it for $670 (incl. tax) I bought it again today for $625 and I'll send the first one back.
>>103120959how much are 32''?are AOC QD-OLED monitors even good ?
