>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUGaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3DWorkstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend, cheap X870>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: NM790Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous:>>103130133
looking to upgrade my pc, but i'm switching from shintel to ayymd so it'll be more or less a complete replacement save for the GPU (a 3090 which i'll updoot to a 5090 when that comes out next year)a friend of mine says i should get the new Ryzen 7 9800X3D and not bother with Ryzen 9 (e.g. 9950X3D) since they'll apparently perform worse in gaming scenariosmy goal is to get the best components if possible, and from my understanding the 7 is a lower tier than 9, why the fuck would it perform worse? is it true? mainly going to be using the new PC for gaming & music production if that matters
Holy shit 9950X3D is a fucking beast
>>103137528>3d horizontal cache
>>103137503>I told my wife that I want a divorce and she threw my pc out the window.His problem is that he cheaped out on a light aluminum case that can be lifted by women. Had he gone O11D Evo XL or Fractal define 7 XL and put in several platters of hdds, he wouldn't have lost his pc
>>103137506ryzen 7 has all cores on a single die chiplet while ryzen 9 has half of their cores on one die and the other half on another. this creates latency problems that makes games run slower
>>103137506There is no 9950X3D, only a 9950X, which is better at non-gaming tasks.9800X3D however is good at non-gaming and the current best at gaming.I didn't google shit to make shure of what I said so I could be wrong in what I said.
>>103137564>There is no 9950X3DYou need to check the news a bit more often
>>103137563ah, i guess that makes senselooking at >>103137528 there's a big difference though, i wonder what kind of games would actually benefit from the 9 vs. the 7 and vice versa>>103137564oh, i'm aware, just meant for when the X3D version does come out, likely next year?so i could either upgrade now or wait for the new 9s
>>103137608the 9950x3d is highly suspect since there's only one result. and unless amd did something really different to these dual CCD chips, makes no sense at all.look at the 7800x3d and 7950x3d comparison instead and you'll get the general idea where they standyeah 9950x3d should be announced at CES in january
>>103137617There might be a reason why AMD released 9800X3D first instead of 9900X3D and 9950X3D. Complete opposite of 7000 series.
>>103137503>Well things been kind off bad, she asked if I love her. I said I do, just more like a sister, that I wish her happiness and we should find a way to separate somehow. lol holy shit
>>103137557Very true, I'm keeping my fractal define r5 forever. How funny would it be if redditors with nagging wives started putting small weights inside their PC case so their wives won't be able to lift them, but they surely don't believe in sex morphology so it won't happen
>>103137528finally A REAL CPU to go with the 3D V-cache
>>103137528>CCD0: 96mb cache 5.5ghz>CCD1: double stacked 160mb cache 5.0ghzA man can dream
>>103137669you want the cache on both CCDs or else you have same issues as the 7950x3d
tiny fans on the v-cache
>>103137677i doubt that will happen since amd touted "exciting differentiators for x3d"
Imagine CCD0 and CCD1 caches being directly connected.
>left on sunday the 10th>it's still saturday in the states>arriving tomorrowNo. No I don't think it will be arriving tomorrow.
>>103137739You buying from abroad?
>>103137747It's amazon, so it's wherever the fuck they wish to ship from, I guess..
I got a 9800x3d hopefully coming and a 3090. I'm looking at getting high end components for my rebuild and setting up a custom loop. do these components look alright? I was told recently to avoid Corsair, even on the ram, so I'm not sure what the second best options for that is
>>103137765You are brave for trusting your package with low wage niggas post-elecrion
>>103137747>tfw if my CPU doesnt get here buy tuesday, bro bezos gonna let me have it for free
>>103137779looks good besides the PSU. Go for a seasonic option also might be worth looking at x870e boards, I assume the prices are pretty much the same
>>103137779G.skill is better than corsair.
>>103137779ram is bad look for 2x32gb 6000 cl30-36-36-76 or cl30-36-36-96 ram
>>103137779>>103137820
>>103137832those are older weaker 30-40-40 kitscorsair sells 30-36-36-76 ones in black
>>103137739>>103137784You couldn't possibly understand what it means to wait.
Any office/computer desk recommendations? Don't care about standing, L shape would be nice
I'm looking to buy a 4070S. How realistic is it to wait for a discount on black friday/cyber monday? I know I should be waiting for next gen for this gen to get cheaper but that's rumored to be releasing right when the tariffs hit. Isn't that going to basically cancel each other out or end up more expensive overall? While I do have enough to just buy a gpu later even if prices go up I'd rather not pay exorbitant prices if I don't have to.
>>103137879just make one. thats the best rec for desks
>>103137863Mine says February 6 and I still haven't been charged, I really want to be charged, why won't amazon take my money? (I use a prepaid CC and don't wanna fuck up the payment).>>103137880
>>103137784>get refund>order gets cancelled and returned automatically>9800x3d's are now $700 a pop
>>103137900oh no brother. they let you keep it, because the delay could be due to it being "lost">probably due to the snow right now
>>103137880Whoops didn't mean to reply to you with >>103137894 but to give you an actual answer there are some rumors that NVIDIA wants to get rid of all the 40 series stock asap before the launch of the 50 series so you might see at least one of the cards on sale soon.
>>103137911It seems like waiting until about halfway through december and then pulling the trigger right before jan if there isn't sales is going to be the move
>>103137894>February 6I kneelAlso Amazon doesn't typically charge until the order has been shipped. From my experience anyway. However if you buy from a third party that's a different story.
Anyone getting analysis paralysis after building their dream PC? Now that I have a PC that can do everything, I end up not doing anything. Such is the struggle of being better than everyone else.
>>103137930I bought it from AMD themselves, but this latest batch of stock was likely a paper launch. I fully expect to receive the processor much earlier though, I assume they just gave that date so people wouldn't just receive them for free like the guy above is saying.
>>103137936over clock it and break it for fun
>>103137936You're finally free, there aren't many more goals in life besides buying a house and maybe finding a gf that won't stab you in the back and having children.
>>103137936The struggle is real.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vX8xFZ
I wish to buy a keyboard.I want said keyboard to have keys that I can set up to pulse out light waves from whatever key I tap like some stupid scifi animeWhat do I get.
I feel like my 3090 is a waste on a 1440p 27" monitor. Should I buy a 4k OLED?
>>103138040what games, i dont think the 3090 can survive new game slop at 4k
>>103138032I don't know about other brands but you can do that with corsair keyboards through iCue
>>103138040It isn't if you like high refresh rates, not even the 4090 can barely hit 60+ fps on some recent games in 4k.
>>103137999sell that 3080ti and get something cheaper that runs better and pocket almost 900 bucks
Looking at 1080p monitors at the 23-25 inch range. I got a spare dock for my steam deck and have been wanting to play some strategy games that my laptop can't quite handle.
help me out with a desk, bros. I ordered one but canceled it because Im thinking about going the home depot butcher block route. what do you guys think? what desk do you have? it's hard to find a desk of the exact specs I want
>>103137936nope. I've been gaming more this year than I have on the past 7-8 years combined since upgrading in March. I had a 2070S/5800x/shitty ips and went to a 4080s/7800x3d/oled 90% of the games I play ran perfectly fine on my pc before since I mostly play weebslop with, but man I'm happy I upgraded.
>>1031380743080ti isn't worth more than 600 at best
I've got a Corsair 750D case for the PC I'm building. Wattage is about 760 to 810 (assuming I add in extra parts), and I'm having trouble picking out a PSU. I'm too worried about picking up smth either not good (that PSU tier list confuses tf out of me and idk what to get), or something too large (Maximum length is like 200mm since I wanna use my front drive bays). What would y'all recommend?
I have an AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, Gigabyte Aorus x570 Elite, 32GB RAM, and a 3060Ti.I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU for games.$149.00 Ryzen 5 5600 $189.00 Ryzen 5 5600X$199.00 Ryzen 7 5700$239.00 Ryzen 7 5700X$299.00 Ryzen 7 5700X3DAre any of these CPUs worth upgrading to to prolong the functional life of my PC for hopefully 2 more years?Which would be the best choice (value/performance)?I don't overclock and I'd pair it with a budget air cooler. Prices are Canadian dollars.
>>103138198>gamesGet an X3D. 5700X3D is quite solid and will last a lot better than any non-X3D.
>>1031381985700X3D from Aliexpress for $200
In the market for new monitors. Currently have 2 of the Samsung Odyssey 27" curved ones, which aren't bad, but one of them is fucked. Has that issue where if I change it above 100hz then it has these fucked up vertical lines that destroy the image and colors so I can't even use it for web browsing let alone gayming. Bought them in like 2020 so it's far too late to return it. Can only play games on one monitor anyways so it doesn't bug me that much, but still I want something that isn't fucked. Other monitor works completely fine though, no issues whatsoever since I bought it. These were in the first big wave of curved monitors too so they don't have mounting holes which kind of sucks, but I would be willing to settle for mount clamps instead of screws so that's not a big deal either way considering I don't even have a mounting arm yet so I can pick the monitor first and build around thatWishlist:.>27">no built in speakers>$300 USD or lower>144mhz or better>low ms response time (not as big of an issue, the most "competitive" thing I play is Halo but my friends are trying to get me on CS so maybe, idk)what are my options? Any recommendations? Anything to steer clear of? I'm willing to give Samsung another shot since I'd be able to return it this time if it's fucked, but I've never had any other brand of monitor that wasn't being pawned off or a hand-me-down so I'm in slightly uncharted waters.
>>103138198X3D is near mandatory for games now, especially AAA slop
>>103138198>>1031382265700X3D is way cheaper than $200 on AliExpress especially with their 11.11 sale coming upGet it from Comet Crash Store or whatever that store's name is
>>103137814What about the kingston fury ddr5-6000? It says 30-36-36, but doesn't list the last number.
>>103138240You can always go to the manufacturer's product page to check the timings on RAM
>>103138240the last number barely matters so that's good too. kingston furies do have a pretty sick heatsink which matters for ddr5 with how hot it gets compared to ddr4
>>103138131the one in his build is one of the overprice Gigabyte ones
>>103138238CAD
>>103138244I tried that, and even looked in the product pdf spec sheet and didn't see it.https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF560C30BWEAK2-64.pdf
Okay I tuned my 14900k a little more limited vid requests to 1.4 and set lite load to 7 I'm getting 37.5k in r23 at 210 watts and I'm at 75-79c. Overall still... this thing is less power hungry than my old 11900k and runs cooler to boot. It's far from a furnace like people made it out to be. Maybe on stock settings.
What's the deal with the Thermaltake P3s? They have very good reviews on various retailer sites, but I don't understand how being so open isn't a dust problem. I do admit they look cool, but surely it's a stupid fucking idea to actually use one of these, right?
>>103138274Looks like dog shit, is a non option with pets, dust is a problem really unless you keep your space clean (who does?)
>>103138273you gotta current limit it too that chip is very thirsty at low/medium loads like games where it would use well over 150Wmy 13900ks did use up to 210W while running 0.50mOhm loadline and a -50mv undervolt on its all core boost
>>103138245Not that anon, but would you say Kingston is a better buy than Gskill right now for DDR5? I want 64gb (2x32) 6000mhz 30CL and I was looking at G.Skill Trident Z Neo, but I've seen some people complaining about the temps for Trident Neo Z sticks. Something about bad design using glue and foam between the boards.
1440p doesn't seem worth the increased gpu and monitor costyes I am a poorfag
>>103138304yeah afaik gskill is the only ddr5 manufacturer that doesnt put thermal pads on its vrms, so their sticks run really warm compared to other brands'too bad since they do have pretty interesting xmp/expo bins like 6000cl28
>>103138309>I am a poorfagYou should've led with this so we could ignore the rest of what you have to say
>>103138309Its worth it for games that use TAA, but I think 4K would be a much better resolution in that regard.
I think the 5950X was the last CPU actually worth the $600 MSRP. Too bad nobody could ever buy one when it launched. But this 9950X3D is looking like the undisputed GOAT already.
>>103138313Yea I was actually looking into the Royal Neo Cl28 last night, but it looks like the 64GB version they announced back in July still hasn't been made available for sale, at least in the US. Can only find 32gb. Is 28cl even that huge of a performance bump for gaming? I'm pretty clueless when it comes to ram.
Why is the 9800x3D bundle at microcenter $80 more than the 7800x3D bundle when the processor is only $30 more and the other parts are the same?
Anyone else worrying that they pulled the trigger too early with the 9800x3d and the 9950x3d is actually going to be the gaming king?
>>103137814The 9800x3d only says it's rated for 5600 on the ram
>>103138339its not that big a deal as the first timing is not as important as the following two. it only indicates highly binned sticks that may manually OC better.also x3d has pretty bad ram scaling so you could get away with JEDEC sticks like 5600cl46 and not notice anything
>>103138350>spending nearly a grand on multi ccx cpuscouldnt be me. all i want is a fast cpu that doesnt need special snowflake schedulers
>>103138354I thought 6000mhz / 30cl was the current "sweet spot", notwithstanding upcoming 28cl sticks? Or do you just mean it would be very marginal performance decrease?
>>103138343I don't know, but I'd guess it's because everyone wants to buy the 9800X3D right now.
>>1031383502ccds wont ever be gayman kangi had a 5900x and it was barely faster oc than my 5600x
>>103138238tempted to get a 7600x3d as a stop gap until 9800x3d drop in price to replace my stupid fucking 13600k
>>103138362it is, it runs on everything and is cheap but 6000cl28 and 6200cl30 is better
https://youtu.be/wXhIrlpXtfotempted to get a older x670e board and 96gb 6000mhz cl34 ram cheap with alis 11.11 sale should i ? waiting for the 9800x3d to drop in price its over 800aud
>>1031383626000cl28 to cl32 are essentially the same thing. The only problem with cl28 is that its rather new and the pricing is uncompetitive.
>>103138413>fake indian benchmarking channel
>>1031384267800x3d is 90% as fast and only costs 550aud here should i just get that?
>>103138350Does really 3% more frame rate bother you so much?
>>103138442Just watch these two reviews and decideSome games get way more than 10% more performance over the 7800X3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-lFgbzU3LYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCOJ3iFCWcU
>>103138442yes
>>103138466seen both of them sadly nobody benchmarks beamng vr mp with mods thats all i play atm
>>103138469k ill wait for sales spent all money fixed shitbox car this month lul
Any cheap DIY methods to reduce HDD vibration noise? I'd rather not have to buy a whole set of doodads just to have 90% of them sitting around in a box.
>>103138485i took them all out and put them in caddies now im putting them in a 5 bay yottamaster
>>103138472>beamngwon't the 14900k be the fastest there?
my humble 5800X3D is working great for factorio :)
>>103138625>5800X3D>third fastest gaming cpu in a lot of games>humble
>>103138636Lots of guys here obsessed with other people's specs. Guess what stay in your lane and purchase whatever you want. Just like how you should drive what you want and don't pay attention to what others drive.
>>103138625What about with pyanodon?
>>103138273No shit as 11900K was a dumpster fire housefire cpu
>>103138198It's not really worth it upgrading if you don't replace your GPU as well. The 3600X works fine with the 3060 Ti. 5700X3D (the sensible upgrade path) can drive a 4080 Super.
>>103138442>7800x3d is 90% as fast and only costs 550aud here should i just get that?If you are every in doubt over a PC part purchase, you will probably regret it if you do buy it
>>103137880They are unlikely to get much of a discount
>>103138625beat my scorehttps://factoriobox.1au.us/result/2763dbc1-a09b-47ef-8887-dfd1fec75e03
>>103138688Im not very smart
>>103138445>imagine missing out
>>103138674the 5700X3D can run a 4090
>>103138350Yes it's gonna behttps://www.guru3d.com/story/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-cpu-tested-leak-indicates-faster-than-7950x3d/
>>103138696click the map namerun the scriptthis is the big map so no v-cache cheating(lol you don't have to i just like posting that shit because this benchmark is fun)
>>103138684Im actually very happy with my 13600k pairs well with the 79xtx which is pretty power hungry my cpu uses basically nothing whole system peaks at about 400-500w which is fuck all these daysi just want more frames in beamng which says its cpu/game engine limitied
>>103138705
>>103138748damnggyou should enable XMP
is this overkill for the next 2-3 years? hoping to plop a 9800x3d in there or a 9700x3d when their cheaper or a 11800x3d if amd sticks with am5 for another gen or two
>>103137936No, I have paralysis before/after every single part purchase. Been building the same machine for like 18 months.
>>103138672what do you mean 1.6v vcore is housefire tier?
>>103138752You were correct. I am an absolute retard. Went up to 41.
>>103138828yeah there you go, 17% performance increasei was just trying to make a point that 3D cache isn't as OP in factorio as you think it isit only works for small maps
Poorfag here, still on a 3600 and 1080. What do I upgrade first, CPU or GPU? 1080p only.
>>103137503HES DOING IT
>>103138863sweet release
>>103138765I think you already know deep down inside you want the top of the line, so it doesn't matter whether it is overkill.
>>103138863can you get frozen if you touch that nitrogen cloud?
>>103138765>x3d>96 gb ramAre you using this for shit like rendering or just gaming? I feel like 64GB would still be overkill territory if the latter.
>>103137503https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wrBfrMplanning an upgrade, switching from intel over to amd. So at minimum I need new MB + ram New GPU will have to wait but I don't play super graphics intensive games for the most part so its w/e. I'd prefer a ATX motherboard so any suggestions would be appreciated. RAM i just picked the top 6000 CL30.
I need to decide between MSI MAG B650M Gaming for $169, MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI $188 and MSI MAG B650M GAMING PLUS for $199
>>103137694Jeet window/game will fuck it up
>>103138991Oh there's also Asus TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI for $220
>>103138918https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WbPypK
>>103138834gpu
>>103138834CPU
>>103138834Npu
>>103138834your monitor
>>103139061>>103139063thanks. is the 7600 recommendation over the 7600x for efficiency reasons? they are pretty much the same price atm.
>>103139104they're the same cpu except amd oc'd the X to get 5% more perf for 100% more wattsso yeah. buy the non x
are the tariffs a psyop or a real thing? should i buy everything now?
>>103139135psyop
>>103139135real
Only a few more hours before I go and pick it up.
>>103139135his handlers won't let it happen
>>103139210the handlers from the first term wont be there
>>103138891>>103138877I NEED ALL THE FPS 120HZ NOW
>>10313924196gb is overkill for gaming, 64 is good if you wanna multitask while gaming but even that is overkill in most cases.
>>103139243Yes, but will it be overkill in 8 years time?
>>103139251In 8 years we'll likely have DDR7 and you'll want to upgrade to that ram instead.
>>103139251You went from 2-3 years to 8 years.
>>103139263based nooticer
>>103139231they're the same. the deep state controls all
>>103137528Where did they even get a 9950X3D?
>>103139302>they're the same. the deep state controls allI can't wait for the "ok they control every branch of the government but the reason things still suck and wall is still not being built and tariffs made everything more expensive is because of muh deep state">>103137528why are x3d winning in 10-20k spm but losing to incel in 50k spm benchmarks?
>>103139365>ok they control every branch of the government but the reason things still suck and wall is still not being built and tariffs made everything more expensive is because of muh deep stateyep, the tariffs that Trump promised and is definitely going to implement, the reason why prices went up is because of the deep state.
>>103138228Do you need a curved one? If not then check out ASRock PG27QFT1B (simplified version of OP's PG27QFT2A), eyeing this monitor for myself. IPS, 180Hz, don't remember the response time. No USBs, no speakers, no wifi antennas, just a display for a reasonable price.
>>103139365Yeah call it what you want. America is governed by her institutions and they're well-insulated from "politics".
>used to get a 300-400% performance uplift when upgrading every 5 years or so>now it's barely 100%
>>103138350why does it matterdo you need the absolute best every time?
>>103139546Retard
>>103139568>do you need the absolute best every time?yes?what question is that you chucklefuck
>>103139546>7/9800x3D is around 40-50% more FPS in games(not even better performance overall) over the 7600X>Costs more than double>Ppl still flock to buy the overpriced new toys so they can squeeze the extra FPS in unoptimized AAA slop >"Guys why is everything so overpriced for the performance they give?"
Update to >>103133330 if anyone's interested. The PC now works after flashing the bios, Twice, for some reason. 1'st I had to do it via qflash and an USB stick, the second time I had to unplug everything other than bare essentials such as 1 stick of ram (A2 position) and power cables. After that, I was able to boot into bios, update the bios again and afterwards I re-connected everything and now everything works fine.
>>103139580oh youre one of those retards that upgrades to the absolute best every generation wasting his moneykill yourself consumerist
>>10313961140-50% performance is a vast improvement so I'm not sure what your point isdo you NEED it? no, not really, but why settle for less if you've got the money? you can make the "oh it's not the best value you can get" for practically anything on the planet
>>103139611I bet you don't say shit about the people paying $1800 for a 4090
Be honest: Do any of you use ESD wrist straps?
>>103139319Probably some OEM or AMD themselves testing the part or even fake and gayIt's reported to be using 64gb dimms which cannot be bought currently
>>103139669no because I'm not an idiot
>>103139669No.But I don't work on carpet either, and I grip the end of my screwdriver and touch it to my metal desk legs before fucking with anything.
I think it's time to build a new PC. What do you think?
>>103139669Nah those are for the pros. A regular dude might build 10 PCs over the course of their life - very low chance of zapping anything with basic precautions (hard floor, AC off, occasional grounding). OTOH if you're working in a shop you might interact with 10 PCs a week, maybe even a day, so the chance of zapping /something/ is much higher.I won't fault you if you do use one - there's no harm in it - but it's mostly placebo. I would recommend one if you live somewhere dry and hot. ESD isn't as much of a tail risk there as I'm sure you'd know.
>>103139722poorfag? you can build any timenon poorfag? wait for 5090 and save up 6k for a build with peripherals included or ngmi
>>103139738And after building it, what's next? What do you launch?
>>103139749replay ER in 4k w/ full rt in 4k on qdoledafter that back to 20 year old games
>>103139749Install operating system, drivers, prereq software, tune in everything, etc.
>>103139759>>103139760Depressing.
>>103139722Low to midrange? Go for it. Nothing new on the horizon there. For the high-end, new cards are ~2mos away so I'd personally wait.
>>103139766you mean sovlalso, I would replay old games, most likely, to see how things look on a non shit paneland some new AAA goyslop like cybershit 2077 maybe
>>103139766If you build a PC but don't install or setup anything then you got a brick
when are rtx5000 and rdna 4 coming out aaaaaaaaaa
>new gpus just in time to get anally violated by tariffscool
>>103139869in the coming years the shitflinging contest between east and west will get so bad that we'll be happy to own any somewhat contemporary computers in working order, so think twice about the value of your current shitbox
>>103139876to be fair I don't really *need* to upgrade from 4090, but the timing is just hilariously bad
>>103139774>Low to midrangeWhich platform or components are optimal for achieving 1440p ~120 fps?
>>103139869They don't go into effect until second half of next year and even then it only effects products shipped from China not Taiwan.
>>103139895>1440p ~120 fpsthat's top of the line1440p60 is much more reasonable and works great with 4070 super and 7800x3d
>>103139904>60A 12400 is enough for that
>>103139918yes but then you'd have to give your money to incelthere are cheaper cpus I guess, 7800 just happens to be great performance at a mostly reasonable price
>>103139826Q1-Q2 2025
>>103139895Depends what you mean by that. If you want to hit a consistent 120 on max settings in every game then you need to build high-end. Even then a TotL PC will struggle with the sloppiest of AAAs - more a problem with software than hardware though. OTOH if you're okay with tuning settings, DLSS, and/or don't play turboslop you can get away with something on the midrange. IMO it's better to set a budget and get the best you can within that constraint. Your performance target could inform the budget but shouldn't push you into spending crazy money on unrealistic goals.
>>103139669I live in Florida where it's always super humid. Never needed a electric strap.
would a build with the 5600x and a 4070S be good for the next few years? Just drop in a better AM4 cpu in a couple years to ease the cpu bottleneck and get a few more fps?
>>1031399594070s is great, but 5600x is garbage. 5800x3d is going UP in price, not down. 5700x3d is cheap and still produced in small quantities but that's it for am4tldr buy x3d now rather than later
>>103139959Invest in AM5. Zen 6, which is planned for late 2026, is going to support AM5 as rumors say, giving the platform great lifespan.
>>103139959If you already have the AM4 base then yeah sure slot in a 4070S. Might be a little bottlenecked in some particularly CPU-heavy games but fine in the main.If you're building fresh then don't bother with AM4 at this budget. Not to be flippant, but if you can afford a $600 video card you can afford an AM5/1700 system.
>>103139959do a 7500F build
>>103140038>>103140067I am already on AM4 right now. >>103140008>>103139979Honestly looking at comparisons between the 5600x, 5700X3D, 5800X3D, and the AM5 socket cpus the only real upgrade I would get is by getting a new mobo. the 5800x3d is only about 15-25 fps faster in most cases and that's already sitting above 100fps on ultra. I think I might just stick with the 5600x and skip AM5
>>103137503>buy gpu>can't get updates from the post office>store hasn't receive the receipt from the mail office telling that they receive my packageI'm getting fucked, aren't I?
>>1031401135700x3d/5800x3d are the best CPUs on am4 platform period. They make a huge difference just using your computer normally. L3 cache is used in everything so if you know how to manage your machine the boost is felt everywhere.
>>103140113>I am already on AM4 right now.Alright. If the current system has a 5600X then go ahead and install the 4070S. If you're upgrading from an older architecture, eg. Zen2, then I probably would go all the way up to the X3D. Again it's a matter of finances - if $80 on the CPU is breaking you then you can't afford a $600 card.
>>103140130This comment is so wrong I don't even know where to start
>>103140156I'm just having trouble understanding with the X3D cpus are as good as people are saying they are. I see it all over comment sections but when I look at benchmark videos with it and the gpu I have and the 4070S the 5600x is keeping pace in some cases like Fortnite outperforming. It seems like the larger cache isn't even utilized by a lot of games?
>>103139193>heatsink not includeddont forget to buy cooling for it as well
Why am I so unimpressed by the performance of my new rig at 1440p?
>>103140236because you shouldve either got a 4090 or nothing
>>1031402361440p are consume more bait, you need 4090 run it
how fps more should a cpu bring for a 500€ upgrade to be worth the money at 1440p?
>>103140196Yes some games don't scale well off cache. Usually "simpler" ones like esports. On average though the X3Ds are ~15% ahead (and ofc like +50% in some "super-scaler" games). Plus the benefit to low% FPS, dips and stutters, is disproportionately high because the cache eliminates a lot of RAM fetches - a weakness of the Zen architecture. Frankly that alone is enough reason to consider it because stutters are a) annoying and b) show up even when GPU bottlenecked.Again, I'm not saying to upgrade /from/ a 5600X, at least until you have the new card and can make an informed decision, just that it's not worth considering if you're doing a general PC upgrade with this kind of budget.
>>103139669No and I also use a magnetic tip multi-bit driver, never had an issue with that either
>>103140236Because PT and RT greatly gimps your card
>>103140275Thanks for the info anon good stuff to consider
>>103140293>RTGay tracing? I don't use it.I was getting similar performance on older amd card with amd's frame gen turned on. I don't play competitive shooters or other games that require low input latency. I didn't realise that nvidia doesn't have universal frame gen in its software.
>>103140183you're not gonna find anything better than literal server reject ccds on am4.
I was shitting on 4k 27 inch. Brehs, my old 4k at 150% scaling so that it runs at 1440p is so crisp even close. My new 240Hz display arrived and its only able to run at 165Hz through dp. Should I feel a difference between 165hz and 60hz? I kinda don't.
>>103140236Should've gone 7900GRE for the same price.
>>103140236>192bit busThat's why.Gaming performance is largely dictated by memory performance.A 7900GRE has 256bit + L3 cache
>>103140316Well I'm not sure what you expected to get out of the rigAll I can say is that I was similarly not that impressed by the 7800x3d since it wasn't nearly as smooth as my old 13900ks in 1% and 0.1% lows. The new 9800x3d I got is now truly an upgrade from the old intel CPU and leaps and bounds better than the 7800x3d. I suspect that apart from the uarch improvements, the CPU also gains greatly from running at a constant clock rate without dynamic clocking messing up frame times like on the 7800x3d.
>>103140304Forgot to include picrel. Do note that these are 720p so the absolute values are unrealistic but the stutters are what we care about. Source is TPU's 5800X3D review.
>>103140365>The new 9800x3d I got is now truly an upgrade from the old intel CPU and leaps and bounds better than the 7800x3d.I haven't seen that. Seems it's like 10-20 fps more.
>cpu benchmarks tested at 1080p>"it more accurately represents performance increases!"who gives a shit? it's not a real use case, you don't blow that kind of money to play games at low resolution
>>1031403705800x is way ahead in gamingEnjoy your infinity stutter on x3d
>>103140387Averages are slightly better but it's 1% and 0.1% is actually much better which can be felt from the smoother gameplay
>>103140390everyone turns on dlss or fsr and it automatically downgrades your resolution from 2560x1440 to 1707x960 or worse.
>>103140424Any good sources?
>>103140236because a 4090 is a 1080p50fps gpu in 2024even the best will be barely acceptable and slightly disappointing>>103140326>My new 240Hz display arrived and its only able to run at 165Hz through dp.is your gpu 10 years old and don't have dsc?>Should I feel a difference between 165hz and 60hz?yes, 60hz is a slideshow in comparision with mouse movements>>103140365>the amdip solved (?)>static all core clocks on x3d>9000 series snappiness solved in windowsWill jewfus swap to a 9800X3D in his gaming rig in 2024? maybeseems like there is not much more to complain about now compared to intel, it might be over
>>103140326>Should I feel a difference between 165hz and 60hz? I kinda don't.I notice such a large difference that I can't go back to 60hz.I am currently trying to persuade my genx boss to change all our monitors to high res when we upgrade our stuff next year.
What a steal!!
>>103140326open reaction time test website, do 60hz vs 165hz. you can it make difference or not
could i get one to 5.5-6ghz on air?
https://www.human-benchmark.org/reaction-time-testI scored an average of 0.178 ms on this, what do elite gaymers get? It says average is 0.273
>>103140580depends on the region
>>103140579not on air
>>103140595I'm EU and a bit hung over. Will try again tomorrow when I'm on my ADHD meds.
>>103140580Crack e-sport player around 140 - 150 best of the bestWashed e-sport player 160- 185streamer 175 - 190variety streamer 190 - 220
>>103140600even if i throw two 5k rpm fans at the problem?
>>103140579You'll need to bin a couple hundreds of CPUs for that to happen
>>103140580>It says average is 0.273That's data from people who took that test. Average normie doesn't have that.
>>103140625what are airfags seeing?
>>103140390This is literally how you're supposed to do it. You're not benchmarking how well the GPU can do 4k ultra you fucking retard. You won't see much of any improvement with any cpu because the gpu is bottlenecking the cpu.
>>103140444Check out Tom's review
>>103140706I still don't see the point in upgrading. I'll wait for their next cpu's and get one with more than 8 cores.
>>103140639Waterfags are seeing anywhere from 5.3 to 5.4ghz so I assume airfags would already be at the limit at stock.
I am scared of getting a water cooler
>>103140719you mean like a fridge?
>>103140676>This is literally how you're supposed to do it.Yes. Good job missing the point. Read the post again.
>>103140740>Take number>Reduce by half>Reduce by half againThere, now you have 4k FPS.
redpill me on Xiaomi monitorsI just need something to display neovim, not break, not hurt my eyes and not blow up
>>103138765>MSI motherboardnever again
7600x+7800 xt on 1440pShould i upgrade to a 7800X3D or 0800X3D bwos?
>>1031408919800X3D*
>>1031402364070S is for 1080p
>>103140896>>103140891If you're going to upgrade9800x3d if you can find it at MSRP7800x3d if you can find it well below MSRP
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/wayland-support-for-the-565-release-series/312688NVIDIA WONTHANK YOU NVIDIA
>>103140903Ai bot post
>>103139611why do you assume people upgrade to a shit tier cpu instead of a good one that will last them for years and years?
What case for RX 7900 XTX and ryzen 7 9800 X3D with opaque/no glass side? I literally give 0 shit about RGB or how the inside of the pc looks like
>>103140903When is Njudea releasing universal frame gen?
>>103140929Forgot to mention, it's an ATX MoBo
are you also waiting for this years black friday to purchase your pc parts?
>>103140929Meshify 2, North, SB 802
You are guy and have a small penis if your build is not ATX
>>103140970>You are guyyes I am guy
>>103140929phanteks enthoo pro, personally
>>103140956There are no good tech sales outside of monitors and old motherboards.
>>103139749boot up monster hunter wilds to run it at 50 fps with drops
>>103140580I just ingested over 3k calories of mcd goyslop and I am sipping coffee and I am pushing 40 and I have a greasy click finger and I am on 60hz
>>103140619>Washed e-sport player 160- 185it's called getting old
https://wccftech.com/the-us-ordered-tsmc-to-stop-7nm-and-below-shipments-to-chinese-customers/No more Nvidia GPUs
>>103141049or stop talking med
>>103137975So in terms of achievable goals, he's already done.
>>103140580I'm tired and old and I only managed 239ms, no wonder I get owned.
>>103138083buy any 144hz+ ips one that looks good and cheap, it aint that hard
>>103140970I bought ATX because there was a good deal on atx asrock board. I'd very much get any other form factor.
>>103140970I regret getting mATX because I'm 6'6 and have giant hands and I didn't have the right tools to take my case apart. I got so angry trying to fit my hands in to reach some of the interfaces I wanted to kill people.
>>103140459>is your gpu 10 years old and don't have dsc?Kinda yes, its a stinkpad x1 carbon gen 6. Only shintel iGPU.
>>10314046930hz feels horrendus. 60 vs 165 I don't feel a difference yet.
>>103141043I have none of that, am in my 30s, and do not play any fps or competitive games besides fighting games.
>>1031405800.264 avg. Not a gaymer. I do play bullet on phone. I have to check there.
>>103140891No, why?
>>103141182I dipped below the .200 ms range too second try (no proof added)I haven't played games in a minutewhat I'm saying is if you have a super high hz monitor and better system latency you can probably cut down this just a tiny bit too>>103141174did you even go into settings and enable the hz
>>103141162Get your wife to do it instead anon. You can guide her.
>>103141223Yeah, I don't gayme. I just use this for programming, animu and browsing.
What gpu to get for 9800x3d with other mid to high end components. Budget is 1100 eur but the lower the better. Monitor 165hz 1440p but might go 120+ 4k within a year. Is the nvidia tax on a 4070tiS worth it when I could get a 7900XTX for the same money? I ~could~ wait for new gpu releases but considering how fast 9800x3d was gone, I'm afraid any decently priced gpu will be gone in an instant
>>103141227My gf wasn't home at the time and she actually had large hands for a woman. She is a woman, I checked.
How long until 9800x3d is for sale in 3rd world countries? How much will it cost? I've heard 7800x3d are not manufactured anymore. Should I grab one now or wait? I'm afraid whichever I pick will end up being the wrong decision.
>>103141242She is not going to be 6'6" gorilla like you. She is going to be downright smol 5'4" or 5'6". Get her to do it. How tall is she?
>>103141239>€1100 for the card alone4080S if it's not Euroscalped too hard. 4070TiS if not.7900XTX would be worth considering if you know for a fact you don't like RT or DLSS.Though in that case just buy a GRE and put the difference into your investment portfolio.>€1100 for the whole PCRethink the 9800X3D purchase.
>>103141251Bruh, you are in the 4th world, I'm a thirdie and it's been on sale since launch and I was in stock couple of days back.
>>1031412615'7 but her hands and feet are large for a woman.
>>103141223Oh right. Forgot to say I'm on a 180hz monitor.
>>103141273You got paired with a stone troll anon. F.
>MONITOR>1080p>MSI G2412F>MSI MAG 256F>MSI G244PF E2are these still a good suggestion from OP, or are there better options at similar prices?if they're still good, what are the main differences between them and reasons to prefer one over the others?>inb4 read the specsif i could make sense of what those means in a practical sense, i wouldnt be here asking, help an ignorant bro
>>103141239>>1031412621100 for gpu only, some local prices:>4080 S 1100-1400eur>7900xtx 900-1100 eur>4070ti S 900-1100 eur>7900XT 720-830 eur>4070 S 650-830 eurSo the 4080s is technically above budget, and for some reason 7900GRE sapphire is the only option at 700
i kvetched for a while but now im the proud owner of 265th in line to get my R9800x3d bros
>>103141379Great choice anon. What is the rest of your system?
>>103141297She gives great massages
>>103141370>7900GREGreat choice for budget build.
>>103141391dunno. reckon it'll be mid 2025 when i get the CPU so i'll pick some stuff out when it comes around
>>1031412399800x3d will be restocked in no time continously5090's won't be out of stock or sold out for long, not everyone is buying 2k+ gpus, atleast not herethe scarcity meme is over, scalpers are selling back their retarded ps5 pro scalps>>103141347best ones is the cheapest ones on sale>>103141379now only missing a 5090 + a 4k oled
>>103141408Put an order for 870e nova now itself anon.
>>103141405Depends where. In Europe they tend to get more expensive and closer to the 7900 XT than they should.
>>103141445what for? i cant imagine compatible motherboards are gonna scalped out of existence like GPUs and CPUs
>>103141461Hahahaha.. try buying a nova now.
>>103141451Thankfully 7900gre is stupid cheap over here. 7900xtx is expensive though. I could buy two 7900gres for the price of one xtx.
>>103141127Found a good deal on a curved one. Would that be awkward with a 24 inch 16:9?
Damn there no leak about battlemage what so ever even though it’ll be out next month
>>103141482Curved is a meme, get the one with better specs. High refresh rate. Good colors, brightness etc. Also consider 27".
>>103141512>battlemageNo one cares probably.
>>103138890No, but it would be extremely painful.
>>103141514>for five yearsAny crashes?
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-preps-strix-point-and-krackan-refreshes-for-2026AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPTINTEL XE3 CELESTIAL KING IN 2025
>PC case reviewers go on about ariflow and thermals spend hundreds of thousands on testing suites to validate them >PC builders buy case with most glass and stick cars and anime figs inside them I wonder if they feel their work is futile
>>103141586Gib me animus.
>>103141482>Found a good deal on a curved oneofcourse it's a good deal since it's a VA which is shitty and smeary and slowVA's have overtaken TN in terms of shittyness and they are worse in gaming and cheapest of allnot mentioning other possible downsides like weird subpixel structures which are more common than on ipsthat's why I said IPSI wouldn't>>103141586>retards like goymers nexus test with a stock configuration in cases that comes with no fans that are supposed to have like 9 fans addedcases have been solved for a minute
>>103141586Jesus Christ, please stop this.
>>103141512>even though it’ll be out next monthand a month or two after that are amd/nvidia new cards. theres no reason to get intel when amd is the monopoly on linux and nvidia is the monopoly on windows.
>>103141538Nope
>>103141646intel is/was the price performance kang in poverty tiers though, if you can handle even worse support and drivers than amd
>>103139895does not exist unless you plan on playing counter strike
>>103141669even thats kind of questionable. amd has been eating their lunch with apus, handhelds, and thats not even including the used market where you can pick up a 6700xt or 6800 for dirt cheap now which will destroy pretty much any intel card.
>>103141586>>103141597>>103141622The hack people won't tell you is that using anime figures as GPU mounting pressure weight gives you better temps and fps.
>>103141586What does your mom think of this?
External HDD is making clicking sounds when writing, but Crystal Disk Info says it's healthy. How screwed is it?
>>103141861just have backup for any data on it
>>103141861Health means jackshit. A SSD can say 100% health today but tomorrow the controller dies without a sound or warning.
>>103141876SSD manufacturers HATE this guy!
I got a 5600x/3070ti with a 2560x1440/144hz display. I'm playing Darktide and I don't hit 100% GPU use, apparently I'm capped by my CPU and newer titles are going to be even more demanding.Do I get a 5700X3D now? I wasn't really thinking of upgrading anything any time soon but getting one for less than a $200 sound appealing without having to replace everything else. Sure it's not on par with the Zen4/ counterparts, but at high settings 1440p I don't know if a 5700X3D will be the bottleneck for any time soon.
>>103140201already have the one from my 7800x3d
>>103141861What kind of click? If it's this it's fuckedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRl878vm5ZQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra8PqbtnFmU
>>103141994Why would you want to max out your video card? Just cap the game at a stable frame rate and adjust the graphics according to it.
>>103141604Good catch, didn't realize it wasn't IPS.
>>103140201nothing my gook twin tower and 5k rpm server fans cant fix lel
>>103142021FOMO factor I think. I can throw 175 europoors for a tray model right now and don't know if it will be available later on. It will definitely cover the CPU side of things for a few more years at least. Aside from Darktide, I'm perfectly fine with my 5600x and when I have issue it's usually the because the game is shit like Dragon's Dogma 2 and I certainly won't be getting the new Monster Hunter.Maybe in a year or two I'll build stuff from scratch, I don't really know.
>>103142063It's your money, you decide. I switched from 5700X to a 7600X, absolutely no difference in games, however it's a bit more "future proof", but looking at the retarded GPU prices I probably won't change from my 3060 Ti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDNg5KiQ8iYis it worth getting the x870e over the x670e boards for oc?
>>103141994>I don't hit 100% GPU usethen turn up settings?
>>103142093your issue is your gpus very slow>>103142063i went from a 5900x/5600x to a 13600k big jumpjump to a 9800x3d oc is going to be nuts
>>103141994>5600xolder 6 cores starting to show their agetry dropping a 5700x3d off ali in there
>>103142113It's a mid-tier card, can run older games at decent frames, so I'm not planning to buy anything right now. I've noticed that even if you have a high-end card, games tend to stutter with uncapped fps no matter what, so finding the sweet spot for FPS and capping it is the best way to eliminate these micro lags. Now 60 FPS is usually a sweet spot for almost every non-FPS games, but even some FPS games, like Battlefield run nicely on 60 FPS. CoD is bad @ 60, because of the input lag, but 120 is acceptable.
>>103142147it was mid tier 4 years ago now its just ancient im pretty sure my a770 would spank it
>>103141586what's actually futile is slapping 15 fans into your caseheatsinks work, airflow is just an aid
>>103142198Dunno honestly, the most recent game I played was Warzone 2.0, I have fix 120 FPS on low, which is good enough I guess. Now that Stalker 2 is out soon I'm pretty interested how it will run.
>>103141242Has she always been a woman?
why the FUCK is x870e 500usd+ ?should i just get a cheaper x670e and a 9800x3d for 600usd and call it a day?>>103142235ue5 is a cpu monster it hated my 5600x 5900x and 13600k doesnt run that good eitherzen 5 will be huge jump x3d anyways
>>103141646I'm still interested. Alchemist was a promising first try, if Battlemage will deliver decent drivers for Linux I might unironically gamble with a cosher GPU.
>>103142244are you gonna be playing a lot at 1080p?
>>103141586I think it speaks more to how autistic testing has gotten vs the change of tastes of buyers.Buyers haven't changed much in their habits as it comes to picking a case. It's mostly about looks and features.Reviewers however have gone off the deep end with acquiring info that's nice to know but not critical into a purchasing decision.
>>1031422973440x1440p miniumum5k+ in vr
>>103142356well you can buy b650 board, they'll handle the 120w of 9800x3d just fine and will have 2x m2 slots or whatever you may need
>>103142241No but that's the best thing about her. We get to take turns if you know what I mean ;)
>>103142375i need 4x m2 slotshave two 2tb drives one 1tb drive one 4tb drive one 250gb system driveamd is fucked bifrucation in my m2 hyper gen 3 hasnt worked since x570e beyond one or two m2s
>>103142235speaking of cod wtf is this call of duty launcher bullshit now? why do i need a launcher for a launcher
>>103142398
>>103142394That seems really dumb, I mean theres using nvmes for productivity handling 4k video files and you'd be just using 4tb nvmes, or you use hdd for long term storage>one 250gb system drivehow about you just throw it away
>>103142426i was about too but was too lazy kek
>>103142417it pisses me off because its technically 3 exes. first steam or xbox app opens then closes, then cod hq opens and closes, and then the actual game opens.
>>103142394this is the state of people that don't just consoom 4tb or 8tb nvmemes and fill up their slots with shitty small ones>>103142235120fps is budget cpu range, not high refresh
>>103142486and? i can put all my 1-2tb shit on one drive then whats the issue
>>103142508but why do you keep buying more nvmes if you dont need the storage
>>103142486Warzone 2.0 (DMZ to be exact) is extremely power hungry. People say the basic multiplayer runs on much higher frame rate, but I can't confirm that, since I don't own the game.
>>103137528>9950X3Dcool i knew i was waiting for a reason imagine the oc hnngwish they'd make a 9900x3d5900x was one of my favorite cpus
>>103142514so i dont need 6 fucking m2 drivesits why i bought a 16 and 18tb hdd so i can copy all my old shit off 4tbs
>>103142560what are you storing in there?
>>103142545>>103142545>>103142545>>103142545NEWEW
>>103142569Bunch of 4k ripped tv and webdl moviesshit adds up fast, gonna make the 4tb m2 my main game/os drive on a fresh w11 24h2 install
>>103142589you should just delete stuff that you already watched/played
>>103142553The bald man from Canada says warzone scales with everything and very cpu limited but even a 5600 was pushing like 120fps in the old poozonenot good enough if you wanna COMPETE and need 200fps+
>>103137503>i told my wife i wanted a device and she through my pc out the window.jpga classic post, my good redditman
>>103139365>why are x3d winning in 10-20k spm but losing to incel in 50k spm benchmarks?Tiny 10K map entirely fits in the cache.Big 50K map has to swap out to ram all the time.Nobody will ever bother to implement it, but the really important metric for factorio is not any "UPS at fixed SPM" maps but dynamically scaling the map to figure out what SPM drops the UPS under 60 for each CPU.
>>103140970E-ATX Chads rise up!
>tfw need to brush up my cv>tfw need to send out applications>tfw need to get a side job to afford pc parts>tfw need to give Jensen all my shekels>tfw procrastinated all week avoiding doing this
