>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUGaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D; for existing AM4 users: 5700X3DWorkstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend, cheap X870>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: NM790Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous:>>103167583
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>>103171761ugly
>>103171773Turn on your monitor
>>103171761>is it good>Sapphire it’s good
>>103171773>>103171780
>>103171742I'm glad the 5700X3D is back in the op where it belongs
>>103171780the card based on netease f2p slop is still ugly
>userbenchmark
>>103171742>Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only)why only windows?
I wanted a mobo with 8 SATA plugins but when I looked at reviews it made me feel bad about buying it. It's a bit hotter than other boards and the performance was a bit worse too, I thought motherboards didn't really affect anything until now.So then I looked into pcie SATA expansion things but they cost a lot of money for something so small, so that sucks.I dunno what I'll do.
>>103171861cuz its slow in linux
>>103171867how many hard drives do you need in something that's presumably not a NAS
mind factory last weeks cpu salesfrom:https://x.com/TechEpiphanyYT/status/1855904874883338582
Why is the 5700X3D recommended over the 5800X3D?
>>103171896Well I have 6 HDDs plugged right now and 2 or 3 have been unplugged for a while(family wanted me to back up old pictures on outdated laptops). I just wanted to plug everything in and organize stuff but I was really put off by that review.
>>1031719195800X3D isn't made anymore, the 5700X3D is it's replacement
>>1031719147800x3d alone outsells intel's entire lineup combined and its an old processor
>>103171937better than it?
>>103171946its 5-10% slower
>>103171867You want to look at the total cost. Getting 8x SATA on a current gen board is expensive because they've moved all their "bandwidth budget" into PCIe lanes (PCIe5 needs a lot of metal). That means it's often cheaper to buy a conventional board and an adapter card. Especially if you don't need a full-on HBA - those /are/ expensive but probably overkill if you don't intend to run RAID.
>>103171955It actually seemed really cheap compared to boards with less slots, I think because the other performance stuff was lacking. It's the ASUS Prime B650M-A AX II.Something presumably better + a pcie thing would cost more I think.
>>103171955HBAs are cheap AF.Just buy some old HP P400 and don't use the raid functionality. They were peanuts like 15 years ago.
>>103171940and 0 (zero) 285k soldIt doesn't exist
>>103171946When AMD was selling Milan-X Epyc chips they were selling all excess stable dies as 5800X3D. Now that Milan-X is in legacy support the most stable dies go to it and the rest become 5700X3Ds which they've got enough to sell forever.If they wanted they could do a 5950X3D.
>>103171969>ASUS Prime B650M-A AX IIOh yeah those are really lacking compared to the competition in their bracket. You're right in your assessment that the 8x SATA is their only selling point.I suppose it does have a place as a NAS board but frankly anything AM5 is way overkill for a basic NAS (plus the weak VRM makes it questionable for a full-on server).
which capture card should i get for streaming from my camera? 4k60
>>103172000Elgato Game Capture 4K60 Pro MK.2
>>103171980its a paper launch that nobody noticed cuz noone wants them
>>103171914>980 9800x3d soldDoes this number include preorders for next shipments? Also this just further goes to show that europe just gets scraps. One major german store got such a little amount and then you look at the rest of europe, and the other countries basically didn't get any whatsoever, as if artificial scarcity wasn't enough.
>>103171996Since everything else costs more I might just cheap out even though I was thinking of getting that new 9800x3D lol. Am I being retarded?
>>103171986like you said, all good 3d dies go to epyc so they can only make a 5900xt3d by combining two 5700x3ds
>>103172042Yeah mindfactory probably got 50 of each, meanwhile they sold out their entire 1k of 9800X3D and Intel fags are claiming THAT is a paper launch
>>103171867Here you go anon-https://www.ebay.com/itm/394473979273
>>103172061Heh fair enough they'd probably call it the 5900X3D even though it has 16 cores like the 5900XTMaybe for the 10th anniversary.
>>103172076I'd be too chicken to buy a storage related thing used and from China but thank you heh.
>>103172057Yeah kind of. As I said that board is basically only good for a NAS and you're obviously building a high-end gaming rig so not only would that be cheaping out but it also probably lacks some features you'd /want/ on such a rig. VR support? Optical audio? Good WiFi?Ultimately only you know exactly what you need; this is just my feelings on the matter. I'll grant it's true that most people end up buying more board than they need but this does seem to be on the lower end of what's worth considering for a, presumably, $2k+ PC.
>>103172025its a better choice over something like a blackmagic decklink?
>>103172121Initially I didn't really care about anything except SATA slots. This is my third PC and each time I've just wanted more of those, and I've always skimped on motherboard since I don't do much overclocking and I'm stupid and don't really know what a motherboard does. I went 4 sata > 6 > and now I wanted 8 but I guess I'll just try to find another 6 slotter and cope, although it does seem like most of these AM5 boards are in the 4 bracket.Maybe this just isn't a good time for me to be upgrading, I don't even really need to but it's been like 7 years and my inner consoomer wants out.
>>103172168The problem is that the AM5 spec only requires 4x SATA - anything else must come from repurposed PCIe lanes which is why the Prime is so sparse there. Obviously PCIe gives you a lot more optionality so it may be better in the long run to "bite the bullet" with a HBA/adapter. SATA is pretty much legacy tech at this point so it's more likely that, in 2030, you'll have a single 20TB PLC NVMe drive than a bunch of HDDs for bulk data. Indeed, if you want more than that I would seriously suggest a NAS. Hell, I'd suggest that right now; I built one with an old FM2 rig and it's great.
>>103172168If you want sata slots, get a high end board with 6 base slots like x670e carbon or the like and then if you need more add a pcie card that has sata slots, since you'll have a lot of pcie bandwidth from the chipset. Those cards are like 25-30 bucks.
>>103172222I'm surprised there's not any high density sata SSDs for cheap
I have a 5600X sitting around from when I wanted to upgrade the CPU in my current build, I'm just now running into games where my 2600 is "minimum". Should I just slap it in or take the opportunity to do a new build?>Current buildRyzen 5 2600GIGABYTE b450m motherboard (AM4 chipset)32GB DDR4-3603 RAM (4x8GB)500GB SSD, 1TB NVMe, 4TB HDDMSI RX 5700 "MECH OC" (8GB VRAM)550W Seasonic PSUAlso a 1440p and 1080p (both up to 144hz)>Potential build (congrats if you cared enough to get this far)https://buildmypc.net/rigs/r0ittG
>>103172263why the fuck are you not using the 5600x
>>103171742> Workstation: RTX 4000 SeriesDid you mean the RTX 6000 series? There is not one workstation card in the 4000 series.
>>103172222>>103172236Yeah I could just buy another PSU and turn my current PC into a NAS/server thing, I've never done that before and that might be the cheapest way to do this. Thanks for all the help, I'll go to sleep now and tomorrow I'll just find a regular gamer motherboard.>>103172260I remember a big company, I think HP, was showing off light based storage many years ago and it seemed really cool and had me very excited for the future but they apparently thought it was too good for us plebes.
>>103171949Not that much! It's maybe 1-2% slower in games if at all.
Worth going from x670e 7800x3d to x870e 9800x3d
>>103172292>1-2% sloweronly in gpu bottlenecked benchmarks. x3d's scale nearly linearly with clockspeed and the 5700x3d is clocked about 9% slower than the 5800x3d so its 5-10% slower than the 5800x3d
>>103172263>bought cpu>never bothered to put it in computer
>>103172313Why tf would you change mobo. X870e is just rebranded x670e with mandatory usb4. As for cpu, it depends on you and what you play, but it's not really worth it to upgrade from a 7800x3d unless you like overclocking but even then it's not really worth since the io die is the same so at best you can just adjust the clocks.
>>103172285Goodnight anon. Here's something for you to mull over in the morning.>I've never done that before and that might be the cheapest way to do thisI doubt it'd be cheaper than buying the Prime but I do think it would be a lot better for not much more money. Having a NAS means you can access your files from anywhere in the house; stream to your TV, laptop, tablet, etc. Plus it makes backups a lot easier and with plugins you can run a Minecraft server, DNS adblock, seedbox, and so on.Then, on the desktop side, you're not stuck with a one-trick board that struggles to push 150A.>HP, was showing off light based storage...Anything at that scale needs to compete with magnetic tape somehow. Hard to do <$10/TB with new tech. What might have been, I suppose.
>>103172263dafuq>>103172313cpu upgrade, yes if you need better 0.1% lows for whatever reasonmotherboard upgrade is a waste of money
is my cpu dying if im getting some Whea-logger warning?
>>103172361>>103172379Oh ok I haven't had a AMD chip since the zen 3 5900x 5600x x570e sold them 2yrs ago
>>103172321Basically, this.Truth is everyone's a lying shill glownigger faggot.(((benchmarks))) are just the latest grift.If your benchmark isn't capped at 60Hz your 1% lows are useless data. It's natural for 50 seconds of a game pumping out 300FPS to have the 1% lows artificially skewed, and even 0.1% lows as well.When the target performance is "motherfucker I just want a stable 60" you need to bench with a cap of 60for "high refresh rate gaming" you can set the cap to 120FPS but the point is these x3d CPUs are typically better at stable frames than max FPS and they reduce stuttering and that's something that the benchmarks don't really reflect well because the testing is flawedbenchmarks usually also don't actually reflect the true gaming experience especially for games where CPU performance mattersMMOs in actual raids or in 40v40 battlegrounds for example will have a lot of fluctuation as crowds gather and disperse and a benchmark would just average all that and not really represent how inconsistent the FPS can be and the more frames that are allowed to render when you're doing nothing the more the results get skeweduntil benchmarkers start focusing less on muh avg and more on worst case scenario CPU benchmarking is mostly a meme 99% of people still don't even play at over 144hz so tests running at 300 are kind of useless data since they aren't actually measuring its capability to remain stable at 120/144fps or 60fps or anything people actually use
>>103172416see picrel. the 9800x3d is decently ahead of the 7800x3d. the only issue right now is its poor availability and resulting bad prices
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wHH11AplyLcUser benchmark is cringe>>103172435Damn the 98x3d is almost double the price for 10% more perfWhen their cheap I'll drop one in looks like I did good going the 7800x3d
>>10317247310% is huge in cpuland tbf285k was utterly destroyed for being 'just' 9% slower than the 14900k
Have you guys ever upgraded your GPU but you kept your old PSU and the coil whine went away or did your new GPU have it too?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PhZyEReEVmo>>103172487Anything's an upgrade from my 13600k that lost 10% in “updates" and it's still on ddr4
>>103172493I've genuinely never had coil whine.
>>103171914https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEeQ2mbkTlMWtf are Intel doing it's genuinely slowed than my 13600k and 5900x OC I had
>>103172504Very lucky
>>103172493I've only had coil whine with 300+ fps, I either cap the framerate to 60 (TV) or 144 (monitor) so it hasn't been an issue for me.
>>103172503i dont think 13th gen lost much performance at all. its just that amd's september windows patch made their cpus 5-10% faster
>>103172539Is a 9800x3d OC quicker than a 7800x3d OC by 15%? I wouldn't say my 13600k was unstable or even noticably lost performance but their handling of the situation and then 15th Gen shitting the bed was my last straw with them back to amd
>>103172504>that's how i discovered i'm deaf to high frequencies
>>10317258515% sounds very doable just by setting pbo to +200 (+3.8% clocks) as its already 11.5% faster at stock
Ryzen 7 5700X3D or a 9 5900X? (same price where I am looking)On paper the 5900X is just better but does it matter that its an older CPU? I am just checking that Im not missing anything that should sway my opinion.
>>103172588>friend ask why my PC sounds like that but it's completely silent to myI'm not old, you're old.
>>103172588I'm not that old just yet.
>>1031726265700x3d with some fast ram and sneaky oc
>>1031726265700x3d if you're gaming5900x if you need more render cores
>>103172626look at benchmarks relevant to the applications you runseriously you sound like a bot because this is shit bait to anyone who knows anything, one is not better than the other in all tasks faggotoh wait, this is the thread that got botted to death last year, none of these posts are real are they?
>>103172674>>103172673>bot replies to a bot postthis thread is the worlds most elaborate advertising campaign
>>103172683>>103172690You caught me im a rogue AI bot
>>103172673>>103172674Thanks.>>103172683>>103172690>one is not better than the other in all tasks faggotI just dont understand why the same architecture with more cores that are higher speed wouldnt just be the better choice.
>>103172600Can I OC a 7800x3d at all under water? Got a 480mm aio coming
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IbV9tTgPNeo&pp=ygURNzgwMHgzZCBvdmVyY2xvY2s%3DWtf I thought older x3d weren't OC able but they are!?
>>103172729Follow the bclk type of guides tighten ram timings etc GL cya in the Vidya fren
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LU3ekfB4y18Fuck 5.8ghz on aio weew
>>103172730its firmware locked by amd. you need a board with external clockgen to get anywhere on that chip
https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1gpqqu2/dlss_3810_dll_from_drivers_56614/NVIDIA WONTHANK YOU NVIDIA
>>103172750>set eCLK Mode to Asynchronous modeYeah it needs external clockgen available only on select $400+ boards
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/785597/intel-arc-iris-xe-graphics-windows.htmlUPDATE NOW
>>103172084>2027, 10th anniversary of ryzen>5900xt3d alone outsells both the new am6/ddr6 (now with more early adopter issues than ever) and entire intel lineups combined.>x370 users explode from smugness overdose>2029>am6 refresh fixed most of the bugs>intel literally on life support from government>userbenchmark raving how nobody needs any cache anyway> "hey pcbg I have 5600x do I buy new motherboard yet?" - "no aliexpress has china-exclusive 5950x3d for $100 you retard"
>>103172805>>103172822Bugger haha oh well cheeper to sell the 78x3d when I'm done and grab a 9800x3d if and when there's any stock here's hoping there's. 9700x3d down the road in a year
>>103172827Wtf happened to battlemage? I miss my a770 I'll get it going again soon as a htpc gaming PC with a 13600k
>>103172841Kek wish I kept my old b350 board and shoved a 5700x3d in it it had a 1600x fuck it was bad miss my x470 board too and had a nice x570e board aaaaa
Holy fuck, I deserve to get socked in the face for what I did today. The Arctic Freezer III 420mm is fucking massive, even my colossal ass S2 struggled to get it in.For reference, I upgraded from the 5800X3D to the 9800X3D. I tried mounting the cooler on the front panel. Waste of an hour; it’s way too damn big. So, I moved it to the top. It mostly fit, but I had to force it into place by threading the screws. Then I noticed the RAM didn’t fit, so I pulled the cooler out and tried again. This time, it sat even more off-angle thanks to the added RAM height, but after six hours of messing with this, I was way too pissed off to quit. I managed to catch a few threads and slowly forced it upward, watching as it compressed the RGB strip on top of the RAM. Fuck it, I continued.In the end, I got it in place, but the RAM is obviously a bit compressed. There’s still some wiggle, so it’s not too bad (lol).Did I damage something? Maybe. Did it work? For now.
>>103172909my brother in christ, your ram is installed wrongly. you're supposed to install it in the 2nd and 4th slots counting from the left
>>103172909anon why did you not unscrew the fans
>>103172957That's a good question, yes I'm dumb. >>103172936I'll probably do what the other anon said to fix the ram position. Tbf I don't know what the fuck this meant and thought it was some AM5 bullshit. Guess I was just interpreting it wrong and should have just skipped two pages ahead to the install recommendation.
>>103172988Oh... I forgot its called dual channel memory (A & B). What the fuck ever man, fuck it I'll be back in an hour, time to open this fucker up
>>103172841I'm sure AMD would be devastated that someone is buying a brand new AM4 processor from them in 2027 to tide them over while AM6 is ironed out for a year.
>9800x3D randomly restocked on Amazon this morning while I was mid-coffee>at $399 at that, 18% offbought one immediately, but should I be worried?
>>103173033forgot to mention, it also has faster estimated delivery than yesterday's MSRP restock?yesterday's was Jan delivery, this is late Nov / early Dec
>>103173033>amazongotta be 7600 repackaged and returned as 9800
>>103173033>at $399 at thatThis is very sus...
>>103172841>no aliexpress has china-exclusive 5950x3d for $100 you retardLMAOI think I coomed
>>103173033> $399Too good to be true. It's under MSRP. A scam.
>>103172909Nice noob here doing everything wrong, kek.
>>103173033>he boughted from Zhongweilajijichangsirenyouxiangongsi
Anyone here own a 7900 xtx? Thinking of getting one, but have no experience with AMD GPUs and see a lot of discourse regarding their drivers.
>>1031731547900XT, no problems with drivers at all here. even the preview drivers for some games always work great.
>>103173154isnt amd gpu driver issues a think from like a decade ago
>>103173154Yeah I got one. Bought the merc310 model for 700€ from someone online and works with no issues. Ive deshrouded it and changed the fans because stock ones were too noisy. The drivers just work as long as you dont do too agressive undervolts and the card itself is a pretty good overclocker. Managed to get 35486 on timespy which is higher than even the highest 4080 and could probably push it even further.
What are the options out there for 4k IPS monitors in the 38-43" inch range? Looking for a new main screen for mixed use, including colour critical work, but only needs to be super accurate in the sRGB colour space. I have access to calibration tools (colorimeter+spectrophotometer) so factory calibration is irrelevant.Is this really all the models out there?>Asus ROG Swift PG38UQ>BenQ Mobiuz EX381U (does not seem to be available in my region)>LG 43SQ700SOLED does not work for me since I have static content on my screen anywhere from 10 to 16 hours a day, and VA has shitty viewing angles. I don't want a high (>115) PPI screen, I want big screen without scaling.Or do I just buy a new 42" LG OLED every year as they inevitably burn in?
Monitor: >150-250 budget >Mostly playing action games(not competitive FPS though)>Long periods of time spend on the computer and usually on a dark roomShould i go IPS or VA?
>>103173154I wouldn't buy one because if I were going to drop anywhere near $1k on a video card I'd want it to have strong RT perf. If you don't want RT, which is fair enough - has its drawbacks, I don't see much reason to go over the GRE. Ask yourself what games aren't going to be playable on High settings with the GRE but are with the XTX? Or, if you want higher settings, why don't you want RT? The fidelity gain would be much better than going from High to Ultra.I won't tell you not to buy one if you are in that "top settings raster only" category but it's an odd preference to have. At this point the drivers are pretty mature so I wouldn't worry about that - the feature mismatch is the big issue.
my current fan setup is A, I am thinking of putting 3 more exhaust fans on top of the case, like B, because I noticed my temps getting really high when ambient temperature increases like summer, will this be a bad idea? My case has a mesh on the side because the original glass one broke, so it's already fucked regarding dust
Started getting a very random nvlddmkm.sys crash, very frequently. Been trying a number of fixes but nothing has helped so far and can't pinpoint a trigger. At what point do I figure out if it's a physical problem with my card instead of some bizarre driver interaction with Asus LED lighting or the realtek drivers or what?Is there a worthwhile upgrade for the 3080ti right now that would make sense before GPU prices skyrocket with tariffs and increased bitcoin prices?
>>103173330I don't think there's any VAs with fast enough response for low smear at that budget so you're kind of locked in to IPS despite the shitty contrast. Buy some lamps or something.
>>103173368What cooler do you have?
>>103173368Do you have an aio or tower cooler? and do you have ventilated bottom for gpu intake?
>>103173382thermaltake phantom spirit 120 se, cpu is AMD x5800>>103173388tower see above, bottom is the PSU and no place to put more fans, the case is a COUGAR DarkBlader X7
>>103171914Nobody is buying my 7900x lol. 9800x3d is crazy.
>>103173323have you considered a tv? some tvs even have api to upload calibration lut, though you might need proprietary software for that.
>>103172504>>103172493I got a new pc and I thought is was schizophrenia, but might be coil whine. No way to know.
>>103171914>1151: 10>1851: 10>>103173019
>>103172588protipknow your smartphone?record losslessplay back at 1/2 speedyou'll hear those 20Ks in the 10k rangedeafer than a brick?play back at 1/4 speed and 20k will be in the 5k rangedeafer than a brick underwater?play back at 1/8 speed, you'll be in 2500hzif you don't have the smarts to open an audio file in an editor and adjust playback speed you don't belong in /g/
New monitor's colors look much better. Its better than my old 4k lg. WTF! Is there something I can do it make both the same color?
>>103173400Nobodys buying the 7950x3d either
>>103173154all the>amd drivers badcrowd are just poorfags with their rtx X060 coping
>>1031734189th gen is never obsoleteI loved my little 9900ks like you wouldn't believe
>>103173429>7950x3dWingay sucking at scheduling. I hope 9950x3d is better.
>>103173405I have, but unfortunately decent IPS ones don't seem to be available anymore. Unfortunately even the highest-end VA ones have bad viewing angles according to rtings, and I confirmed that in a store myself as well. Their BGR subpixel layout would also mess with my text rendering since my other monitors are RGB, at that point the OLED text fringing is preferable.
>>103173396That case looks pretty bad. Try doing a test without the front panel first; that alone should give you some noticeable improvement since it looks like intake is choked. You could also add a top intake near front intake and a top exhaust near rear exhaust and you might see slightly better cpu temps, but don't expect anything too crazy. Adding fans on top is probably not worth it.
>>103173396Your cooler's pretty good so little to be gained from replacing it. The 5800X is known to run hot so adding more fans might just make it boost higher. Personally I wouldn't bother doing anything unless it's cutting boost on account of thermals.If it is, try a single extra exhaust in the top left. That, or more, will probably create a negative pressure situation because the front is so closed off but, like you say, it's a dust magnet anyway so whatever.My reasoning is that it's not really worth spending any more money to fix a fundamentally broken case. Like if you were going to spend $50 on three nice fans you might as well spend $60 on a Focus 2 or something.
>>103171914I can't find any 5650g in my country. Not fair. Also, people buying literal ewaste for actual monies 14900.
>>103173459there's nothing wrong with the 14900k today
>>103173033Its amazon, its not some obscure company. Returns should be easy peas.
>>103173491>14900k todayWhich one did you drink? Puddle water or Koolaid?
>>103173146What's worse is that this is the 4th PC I've built since 2014. I'd like to say it was because I was up for 22 hours, but I'm just generally incompetent kek. >>103172936Also, thank you. I moved the ram over.
>>103173154Hello anon, I want to buy one too but it sucks on llms.
>>103173368>>1031733963 fans is too much. The top front and mid fans will pull out air before it is able to cool the CPU. 1 top fan or even zero is better.
>>103173511my brain's working on facts while yours works on emotions
Maybe a dumb question but is it still worth getting CL30 6000 memory to use with e.g. 9800X3D when the official max supported memory speed is 5600?
>>103173557yes
>>103173447>>103173456>>103173545thanks, I'm gonna add a single top fan and see if it changes something, if It doesn't change much I go back to what it is now
>>103173548How many spectre and meltdown vulns do you want before stop buying that pos? How many times do you micro-code updates to slow your cpu down? How much more power should it consume before I consider it ewaste? Intel will not need to push one more micro-code to stop the processor from commiting seppuku right anon?
>>103173499That's what I figured. I even checked the seller's page, and it straight up says "Protected by A-to-Z Guarantee. The Amazon A-to-Z Guarantee protects you when you purchase items sold and fulfilled by a third party seller." So even if it is a repackaged lesser chip or something, I'm sure I can get it refunded or replaced.
>>103173557You get lower scaling on the X3Ds but it's still present. Given the small price difference, and the high-end nature of the CPU, it seems pointless to skimp on the RAM. The max supported speed is just the highest AMD will warrant for RMA claims i.e. they won't send you a new one if it can't boot >5600. In practice like 99% of AM5 chips can handle 6000 just fine.
>>103173557Just buy cl30 ddr5-6000. The official numbers are fake and gay. It should easily do much more. 6200 or 6400 in 1:1 mode even.
>>103173491"today"being the operative word
>>103173601>How many spectre and meltdown vulns do you want before stop buying that pos?Its already long fixed in hardware since 10th gen. Why bring up something so old?>How many times do you micro-code updates to slow your cpu down? Oh no not muh heckin 1% slowdowns! How will I ever cope?!>How much more power should it consume before I consider it ewaste?Protip: you're too self important. Your opinion doesn't matter as much as you think it does>Intel will not need to push one more micro-code to stop the processor from commiting seppuku right anon?They already root caused it and issued the appropriate fixes though
Can someone explain why my MSI motherboard had a MSI Utility installer popup as soon as I logged into windows on my fresh install? It tried to sneakily install Norton. What the fuck is this shit?
>>103172313do not fall for the 870 usb4 memes
>>103173693go into your bios and disable the auto driver installerevery brand has their own version of this malware and calls it by different names>asrock: auto driver installer>asus: asus armoury crate>msi???>gigabyte???
>>103172313No. The idea of getting a high end boards is to use it until the platform dies.
>>103172493the only time i ever had coilwhine was when i played dragon age origins with a modern system and forgot to cap fps
>>103173673>Its already long fixed in hardware since 10th gen. Why bring up something so old?https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/intel-cpus-vulnerable-to-new-transient-execution-side-channel-attack/lololololololol.>>103173673>They already root caused it and issued the appropriate fixes thoughThey are pulling a boeing anon. Don't trust the jews who robbed you of your monies.
>>103172909its always the people with rtx cards too
someone said my airflow was all fucked up, is this true?
Give me one good reason why I shouldn't do this.
>>103173739>Based on our review of the researchers’ report, this does not describe a new vulnerability. Existing mitigations for Meltdown will address the example in the paper.>However, we were not informed of this paper or contacted by the research team prior to publication. As always, we encourage security researchers to participate in coordinated vulnerability disclosure and report issues to us before publishing them so we can take any steps necessary to safeguard the security of customers and end users.Its an old vuln anon. They tested on a 7700 and 10980xe which is technically 10th gen, but i totally forgot skylake-x existed when writing that and really meant cometlake so my bad on that one
>>103173786you should make it more granular
>>103173776im afraid so, whats the real orientation of the case here?also>trooncord
>>103173792I said a good reason.
>>103173776According to your image, your cpu is getting 0 fresh air intake, so its pretty bad, yeah. You could have the bottom fans as intake rather than exhaust and that alone should be much better.You should also move the rightmost exhaust near the rear.
>>103173803this horizontal layout is what I want>>103173814yeah I should've definitely flipped those to begin with (they came that way)
>>103173548No it isn't.There are barely any 14900(/K/KF/KS) that aren't going to oxidize, Intel cut production of the entire raptor lake line only a few weeks after finally fixing the fab issue.Unless you have an new CPU after RMA for an existing oxidized part, you don't have a 'good' 14900K.Good news is all Arrow Lake are unaffected, so once the firmware is sorted out, it should be a decent part.But Raptor Lake is fucked forever.
>>103173154Be more specific dawg. Anon >>103173249 is right, you're looking at people regurgitating outdated Google results from 2015-2018. We're in 2024. We have been through several GPU architectures which require complete driver rewrites no matter what GPU brand you have.
for how long will am5 be around anons? i know amd chipset support is amazing but im curious.wiki says am4 lasted 6 years 2016-22, i thought it was way older
>>103172504I have a titanium prosthetic incus bone in my right ear that causes hearing loss over about 5khz, and I always have my case to the right of the desk, so I probably wouldn’t notice any coil whine.
Does MicroCenter not do the build your own combo deal anymore?I only see their pre-picked combos, nothing like buy a CPU, MB, Ram and get $100 off? I want a 9800x3d, x870e, and 8000 ram. Do I just have to accept retail with no discount or wait for them to offer a bundle?
>>103173837You're twisting the facts into your own little fantasy anonThe oxidation incident affected only certain batches of chips in early 2023, meaning only 13th gen was affected.The degradation (aka vmin shift) problem is caused by a certain vulnerable part of the core that gets damaged due to prolonged high voltage exposure from unintended boosting behavior. This has been fixed in microcode and will protect undamaged chips. Of course degraded ones are forever broken but they're covered by the 5 year extended warranty.
>>103173865What are you talking about, anon
>>103173557Same memory controller as before from the same fab so do not stress it beyond diminishing returns. If it struggles in stress tests at above 6200 it means it'll melt for sure in not a very long time.6000 and under is so stable, the firmware is custom built around that, it won't melt it, never heard about degradation outside of people very early on having a faulty bios that burned it with voltage or huge ass coolers poorly screwed that bent the CPU and made it melt due to the temperature distribution.
>>103173608Also this anon is right in everything he says.
>>103173557Custom memory tuned 5600 can already do way more than untuned 5600 but 6000 is the sweetspot that pushes even more juice overall with reduced latency.
>>103173426>Is there something I can do it make both the same color?rent a colorimeter or read reviews of their monitor if their sRGB mode is accurate and activate it on both
>>103173882Now change the MB and Ram
>>103173786>>103173807if you have ptm7950 on the card you can have it flat
>9800X3D sold out already
>>103173330There's no a single VA monitor in the world that won't smear outside of the Samsung custom built g7 ones which are CURVED, 1440p+, 27 inch+, expensive as fuck and achieve it with aggressive overdrive that only works at around 100hz+ which consumes triple the average wattage of an IPS/TN panel.There are lots of good 89 PPI 1080p displays that are cheap now but I would never buy them. I only go 92 ppi and above, so 23.8 inch not 24.5 and above 1080p.But consider Omen X 25, pixio px248 pro, MSI G244PF E2, MSI G2412 (THIS ONe has the worst pixel response times but 1440:1 contrast so it'll look better than the rest in dark, still not horrendous response times but worse than the rest), benq mobiuz ex240, koorui koorui 24e3.These are the best, benq mobiuz ex240MSI G2412are not native 8 bit panels tho, FRC is not necessarily hurting you but it can be visible if you train yourself to notice the pattern or if it happens that you naturally can do it, it's a local type of artifact noise in areasOh and it's dirt cheap I guess the viewsonic one can be good as well - viewsonic xg2431
I really hope the 9950X3D is all cache. Then it will be the greatest CPU to ever release.
>>103173973I was mostly messing around with stress testing and the GPU just stopped at 57-58c and hotspot never went above 78c but almost always went to 50c when under any load.
>>103174017Its power draw would be insane.
>>103174019anything under 110c is just the card capping its own performance
>>103173814Thanks again.
If I wanted to paint something and then put it on a component that could potentially become quite hot, do you guys know where I could look up info on people who have done stuff like this before so I don't accidentally put shitty paint that's going to create fumes, bubble, or flake?
>>103172313usb4 eats up pcie lanes. If you don't need usb4 your are better off buying amd 6xx
>>103174030Not really, it still has a 3d vcache, it will draw more than previous gen, but should be less than 9950x. Right? I hope the launch goes well.
>>103173786because you cannot control hysteresis around the jumps. If you have a proper control program like "fan control" and plug you GPU fans into your PC it isn't that bad to have defined jumps where it makes sense, because you avoid constant regulation of the fans.
>>103174030I don't think it will be. It will be slightly more than the 9950x but will still be way less compared to any Intel chip.
>>103174037intel pls go
>>103174071NTA. Pretty much any manufacturer that isn't a retard puts their USB 4.0 ports on the lanes shared by one of the unrelated PCIe slots. I haven't seen anyone who throws the USB 4.0 connections onto the the x16 slot, they just route them through a deprecated 4x so there isn't any problems with bandwidth. And frankly, 99% of people don't use their other PCIe slots anyway. I am not even sure what I'd use mine for that wouldn't be better served by making a purpose built system for less money.
>>103174159its true for amd tho especially the high end cards. they strap 4090 tier coolers to them and can handle up to 500w.
>>103174075It should draw less, yeah. But the 9800x3d with only 8 cores can already pull 155W so a dual vcache ccd 9950x3d (assuming io die uses 30W) can theoretically pull 275W, fully unlocked
>7800X3D won't go down at all>9800X3D is already sold out, so even more reason for the 7800X3D to stay above MSRP>Could've bought it when it was around 370>Need a CPU asap since i bought a mobo+ram combo on sale last week>Know i'm going to regret buying a 7600XWaw, i hate this.
Either my motherboard or my CPU are fucked. I have a CPU on the way but in case that's not it, what's a good motherboard for a 5700X3D? It's a locked down chip and there's no further upgrade path so modest VRMs are fine, I just want something with good memory support and no suicidal tendencies.
>>103174228Just buy from a scalper
>>103174241MSI pro b550-a
>>103174242kill yourself scalperfag
>>103174228>Need a CPU asap since i bought a mobo+ram combo on sale last weekJust wait. Why do you need your new toy this quickly anyway if you've got your old pc.
>>103174009Ty for the recommendations anon, i kinda forgot to say i'm only interested in 1440p. Are the 27" 1440p monitors of the models you recommended also worth the price?
>>103174196Fat PS2 for scale
Why the fuck doesn't Newegg push notifications to your phone from the app and instead just uses email? You fucks.
>>103174257I have a Ryzen 3600 set up rn, with an RX 7800 XT(bought it on sale 2 months ago) and the bottleneck is really obnoxious.
I'm gonna be running a Ryzen 7 9800x3d. Should I bother w an x670e mobo (Asrock PG lightning) or bite the bullet and get the X870E nova?
>>103174292I like that they don't spam your phone like Amazon does.
I HATE NVIDIA APPYet another unintuitive 500+mb ram using ad filled webapp with missing features.The old panel had a lot of compact setting lists they probably won't add because it doesn't fit the new design.I never used geforce experience btw.
hmm, got the notify from newegg for 9800x3d and had it in my basket for an hour before i decided to pulled the trigger. now seeing it's sold out. hope the order went through
>>103173033I always record unboxings of deals too good to be true. It can help with returns
>>103174306x870e nova is not going to give you anymore performance. Get it only if you want the features it comes it. You don't "need" it. 9800x3d will even run on b650m hdv/m.2.
How have you guys still not learned to use stock checking apps? My phones starts freaking the fuck out when I get an in-stock.
>>103174309I just want it for auto notifications. IT'S FUCKIN POINTLESS TO TELL ME THAT THE 9800X3D IS BACK IN STOCK IF I ONLY GET THE EMAIL TEN MINUTES AFTERWARD.
>>103173882>e-waste mainboard and ramdo poorfags really?
>>103174309wtfi've never had amazon spam my phone and sometimes i wish they wouldthey've just left a 700 dollar box at my door and i didn't know for like 6 hours
>>103174370They're only effective because relatively few people use them to begin with
>>103174380what's wrong with that ram? and what board would you recommend?
>>103174390NTA. not gay-sus. For that price point, I'd get asrock x870 pro rs.
>>103174326This piece of shit made my GPU freeze within seconds after booting, I had to enter safe mode to get rid of it. Why the fuck does it even exist?
>>103174390He's trolling anon.
>>103174390how about you read the OP?>mainboardASRock B650M-HDV/M2>ram2x16GB 6000CL30
>>103174411It's supposed to replace geforce experience and control panel. zoom zooms don't like xp looking panel and want something like amd
>>103174411and why do you retarded nigger cattle not use nvcleanstall?
>>1031741457800x3d vs 9800x3d already has insane power increase, now multiply that by two
>>103174431That control panel is laggy as shit
>>103174431But installing it doesn't remove the old panel. In fact, you can set different options in them and they're not even in sync, I'm not sure what even applies.>>103174460I wanted to try the auto-overclock thing but apparently Pascal cards aren't supported.
>>103174267>i kinda forgot to say i'm only interested in 1440p. Are the 27" 1440p monitors of the models you recommended also worth the price?none, 1440p monitors with somewhat decent pixel response times only start from double the price of those, sure you can buy some garbage one at a similar price with insanely high pixel response times but I wouldn't
>>103174431why not just upgrade the XP panel to have better functionality
>>103174475The 7800X3D was heavily limited by design with the PPT/TDC/EDC of a "65W" model so it's not a straight comparison. I'd expect the 99*0X3Ds to have similar stock limits to the non-3D versions but of course the user is free to select a lower power target if more efficiency is desired.
>>103174520It already has more functionality than most people need.
>>103174431>>103174486It's important to note that AMDs control panel is using Mica so it's GPU hardware accelerated. This is why it not only looks modern but also it's fast as fuck as it scales with your monitors hz. GeForce is using the legacy Windows composite stuff from the times before Windows Aero. To comprehend how old that it, some people posting right now weren't born yet when it was still in use.
>>103173834>>103174043Hold up. Are you sure they were actually exhaust by default and not just those stupid reverse fans that exist to confuse people?
Here is my retarded plan. Tell me how retarded it is and if I should do something else.Three years back I built a 4K build, and bought a mid-range screen (I don't know the model off the top of my head, just that Asus made it) back when there weren't many mid-range options in the first place. My goal was to replace it eventually with something newer and better once prices came down, but then just sorta had that fall to the wayside. Now I am replacing my computer for the 5000 series. I use one 4k screen and two 1080p screens that I have has since forever so I can just look at shit out of the corner of my eye (putting videos on there, music, documents, etc.) on either side. This works out pretty well. However, I want to ditch the 1080p screens for this rebuild and switch to 2 screens from 3. My plan is to keep my current 4K screen and treat it like I do the 1080p screens, but attach it and a newer, nicer 4K screen to those gimbled arm things that I can't remember the name of. Then turn the original 4K screen vertically to save desk space and keep the new screen horizontal. How retarded is this? I can't see myself ever going back to a single screen. Multi-monitors are just too convenient.
>>103171742>for existing AM4 users: 5700X3DI'm interested in doing this, I'd like to squeeze several more years out of my current rig if possible. I currently have a 3600 in my b450 tomahawk pro, can I just swap them out as is, or do I need to make sure the Bios is updated to a certain version or something else? What sort of price should I aim for for the 5700X3D during the holiday sales? I'm in europe.And does the 5700X3D require more cooling than the 3600? I've got an arctic freezer 34 esports in it right now. What sort of RAM is the sweet spot for a 5700X3D? I've currently got 2x8gb 3200C16D in it. Should I try and get 2x8gb extra (so 4 sticks total), or maybe get a 2x16gb kit of a different kind?
>>103174562A dual-monitor setup truly sounds profoundly retarded. Not. What is even supposed to be the problem here, that you're using a 4k as a secondary?
>>103174583Your cooler and ram is fine. All you gotta do is make sure your BIOS is up to date or at least was made after April 2022.
>>103174486but it's light. it would be a problem if it had functionality of geforce experience but right now you use it very rarely.i don't mind them changing from geforce experience to this but i don't want ram hog full of ads on my pc>>103174494they plan on removing old control panel early next year
>>103174306The biggest reason to go with x870e is the PCI5. That gives you upgradability on the GPU. If you plan to keep the PC and upgrade the GPU in 2 or 3 years go that route. If you just build a new PC and upgrade the GPU at the same time, then don't bother and go with 6xx.
>>103174629>but it's lightIn what context? The thing is full of telemetry
>>103174595Mostly having the second monitor set up vertically. I've never used a vertical monitor, so I don't know if it's just a giant meme.
>>103174659ram, cpu and gpu usagerealistically only ram matters and it uses more in the background
>>103174181On all x870 boards 4 CPU lanes are wasted for the USB controller. So you don't have a second SSD directly on the CPU. This means more SSD's on the chipset, that can't be used to their full potential if you have fast ones or use bandwith from the chipset to the CPU in any other way at the same time. Not to mention that USB4 is realized over a dedicated chip that always slightly need energy and produces heat for nothing.As long as you don't explicitly need USB4 you are better off buying 6xx boards in my opinion.
>>103174669Well, do you actively use anything that would benefit from being longer but thinner? D*scord is a common usecase, I think some use it for programming too. Although since it's a 4k then depending on the size and scaling used you might not even have to give up much horizontally compared to a portrait 1080p.
>>103174390You are buying a high end CPU. Why wouldn't you just spend the extra $200 to buy a current gen MOBO and 8xxx Ram?
>install new drivers>black screen >weird noises>uhhh okay>go into bios>disable iGPU>all of my issues go away>PEG was enabled but did basically nothingWhat is the point of this dogshit feature? A last resort if your GPU implodes?
how much should I sell my old components to my friend for?>3060ti>5600 >16gb 3600mhz cl16 ram>msi b550 tomahawk motherboard$300 is the highest I should ask for right?
>>103174702Ah, well that's fair, but what about just not using the 4.0 slots? I only use mine to charge my phone or connect an external M.2 from time to time.
>>103174702>As long as you don't explicitly need USB4 you are better off buying 6xx boards in my opinionFair, but aren't you missing out on the RAM speed upgrade? Having 8000 instead of being stuck with 6000 is a 33% increase which is massive.
>>103174740Yeah.
Is a 750w 80+ gold psu good enough for a stock 3080ti?>i7 12700>64 GB RMAM>one SSD and HDD
How to update ASUS motherboard BIOS? Whenever it starts it immediately restarts the PC without finishing. Stuck on version 0227. FAT32 USB, plugged into BIOS USB port, CAP file renamed, BIOS default settings, etc.
I FOUND SOME OF MY OLD STICKER COLLECTION AFTER 5 YEARSbut now I'm too scared to use any of these on a case because of their age and condition being new
>>103174494>auto-ocyup, nigger cattle it is
>>103174733If you have issues with igpu on you can rma the defective cpu.
Day 587 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>103174950Put them on your computer to absorb their power.
>>103174989I believe the iGPU is working correctly. It just wigs out when it's enabled alongside my GPU because whenever the signal is intermittently lost like in a driver install, it'll swap over to the iGPU. Or sometimes it'll turn the screen into dual monitor mode if I try swapping the HDMI cable from iGPU -> GPU. Just a whole lot of nonsense
>>103175103and people still buy goyvidia>b-but muh raytracing and dlss!both are garbage features that are killing games
>>103175103Stop tempting me. STOP. I wants one now. I',m not impulse buying. YOu got that?
>>1031751687900gre is such a great buy though. What if you got two of those?
Is it possible to unscrew this psu shroud somehow?
>>103175218>7900gre is such a great buy though. nobody is arguing against that, the 7900 GRE is probably the gpu with the best price to performance ratio right now
>>103174731Why would you care about the speed that much? Just spend the same and get 64GB instead of 32GB and you will be better off in most cases. Not to mention you save money on the Motherboard and can put that towards your graphics card.
>>103175239AMD needs to get their software game up. I want two of those cards to run big models. Right now, it probably sucks donkey balls compared to 3090.
best value 140mm fans?
rate this build ? https://pcpartpicker.com/b/H4LPxrgoal isn't aesthetics but the whole build itself, budget 3k USD, country Canada / Europe
>>103175279Arctic p14 / p14max. I got the p14 pwm pst 5 pack btw.
>>103175199probably the best time to buy an amd card. for nvidia i'd just wait
>>103175275>AMD needs to get their software game up. literally who gives a shit about any of nvidia's software, I've owned an nvidia card for 4 years and the only application that I frequently use is the control panel
>>103175282What happens when PCs like this get crusty and dusty and gross looking? Do they just clean them every day? Seems like a lot of work
How is 4070 compared to PS5
>>103175282Sucky suck. - mobo, get x870e nova- Processor: 9800x3d if it fits in budget- Throw those ssds and get a wd black sn850x.- PSU, get atx 3.1 psu. The fuck is this?- Throw the lian ching chong and get arctic.- What the fuck do you need internal usb hub for?- Personally I'd go for fractal case, but get the case you like.
>>103175297Not for me, I want it for llms and playing with some models and shit. Apparently only njudea's cuda makes sense there.
>>103175310For gaymen maybe they are good. But not for llms.
Anons,How bad is it to mix and match ram kits? I have a 2x8gb 3600mh and upgraded to 2x16gb 3200mh. Will it work together or am I handicapping myself?
>>103175361KEK
>>103174601>All you gotta do is make sure your BIOS is up to date or at least was made after April 2022.Alright, I'll check when I get home tonight. Thanks senpai>Your coolerGuess I won't be replacing that just yet then. Though I'm wondering if something bigger might be a bit quieter?>and ram is fineDo you mean the 3200C16D is fine for the 5700X3D, or that I'm fine with 16gb? Figured I might want to go up to 32 if I'm going to be using this thing for a couple more years.
>>103175361>NovaCall me when it becomes available again in... 3 months.
>>103174852try another usb port
>>103175437For 3000USD, I'd get Taichi lite or Tachyon or Crosshair or what is for MSI? Tomahawk or MAG? IDK. Any of the top of the line boards will do.
>>103175317You'll never see one of these PCs be used more than a few years, there is no such thing as just indiscriminately consuming once.Being on a desk also eliminates 90% of dust issues
>>103175484>90% of dust issuesDoes air purifier help with dust? All the dust cant be good for our lungs.
>>103175421its silicon lottery. they either run at the same speed which is the highest or you're bottlenecked to the lowest speed kit.
>>103174383>ordering packages worth of hundreds to your door instead of picking them up yourselfyou niggas arent this lazy right
>>103171742Here we fucking go again!Society has regressed and we can no longer make a bug-free CPU
>>103175526Could be the MOBO
I don't get the hype around the 9800x3dmaybe it's because I play at 4k and a bunch of games I play don't have DLSS but I just don't see the hype around gains that you'll most likely never see unless you're playing with a 4090 class card at 1080p internal resolution even at 1440p the 9800x3d doesn't gain much compared to anything from the last few gens of CPUs
>>103175526Is it the board? Maybe? People are getting over 6GHz with ln2.
>>103175526I literally did everything wrong and this didn't happen to me. Seems like a freak accident.
>>103171742>Workstation CPU: 9900X, 9950XAre these a good value? I'll only upgrade my five year old parts if I don't feel like I'm getting fucked
>>103174837dunno but 850w atleast is t. 3080ti owner
>>1031756027950x and 7900x are great value at the moment. You get approximately the same performance, zen5 is same performance, more or less with less power consumption.
>>103174837Should be good. Consider a atx 3.1 psu.
Why do I need to but compatible cable replacements but cable extensions are fine? Or are they not?
What's the cheapest GPU money can buy that isn't a scam? I heard it starts at €120 or something? Which one would that be bros. Trying to hook a 14 yo up with a gpu and want him to play dishonored.
>>103175551If you have a 7xxx series sure it isn't much. But anything 5xxx or older and you are in the US of A you should upgrade now. Because if tariffs happen you are looking at your next upgrade costing significantly more.
>>103175694New? You better not go lower than RX6600 ($199)Used? Unironically 1080Ti
I bought a used mobo and the previous owner had left a stuck mobo stud there.I manage to wrangle it out with a wrench, but I scratched the edge of the mobo by accident.Is this recoverable? I have not tried to power it on yet.
>>103175474The Tachyon costs $700 dollars.
>>103175761
>>103175762Ok, leave that, get any other top of the like board. Most should fit in 3000$ budget.
>>103175526>>103175548>>103175552>>103175575>Those god damn AMD drivers
>>103175761>>103175776The trace doesn't look damaged, so it should be fine. If you have a spare psu, plug the cpu and atx cable and short the power pins and see what it does. Try adding a cpu, ram and gpu after that.
>>103175526Why you NEVER buy new hardware and wait for at least 6 months of mobo firmware updates. Looking forward to the GN investigation.
>>103174722No, I typically just use my extra monitors for background noise, additional resources (documents, images, scheduling, etc.), notifications that I'm aware of but don't have to take my attention away from, that sort of thing. I don't like having more than one thing on my screen (even if it is a browser with a bunch of tabs) because I feel compelled to look at other bullshit and take my attention away from what I'm supposed to be focused on. It's like grounding myself. I can't ignore what I'm supposed to be doing if it's right in front of me and not just a minimized application along with half a dozen other minimized applications.
>>103175844>GN investigationNigga is based. But his vids are boring. I think its just the fake monotonous tv presenter tone he uses while talking.
>>103175551> I don't get the hype around the 9800x3dIt performs moderately better in games but significantly better in productive apps than the 7800x3d:https://www.igorslab.de/en/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-in-workstation-test-is-it-evil-or-does-it-just-want-to-play-part-2-of-2/
Is the 9700x as lackluster as people say?
>>103175526>>103175844>MSIMost likely motherboard makers not listening to CPU makers again for that 1-2% performance increase over competitors in reviews. Who's going to stop them?
>>103175526>MSIthe poorfag brand of choice
>>103175526> MSIHe got what you deserve.
>>103175884yes, anon.you must buy the 9800x2d, rite now or Lisa will be very unhappy
>>103175919> poorfag brand of choiceRather overpriced crap. Asrock is better. Cheaper and yet better.
>>103175844So, this is the power of Turbo Mode...
>>103175884It's good enough for you. Probably even too good since you have no clue anyway.
>>103175526we are eating good tonight intelsisters
>>103175526>TrumpPooPooPants
>>103175484>Being on a desk also eliminates 90% of dust issuesnot in my room lmao
>>103175946poorfags are low IQthey can't comprehend that asrock is cheaper and better at the same time
5800x3d chads are we going to upgrade or wait out 1 more gen?
I'm using two particle board pos tables right now. Thinking about adding a table top on top of the table to something like in pic rel. Would this be a good idea? For material, I was thinking some glass thingy or slate rock, the one used in roofing. Wood board for a large table is expensive? Will it be able to hold the weight of glass or stone on top of the table? Will it compromise the table?
>>103175962You're right, I have absolutely no idea what I'm doingI'm upgrading my seven year old system for gayming and video editing, so I am at a loss as to what CPU is a good value and what's not
>>103175956That's an Asus motherboard in the picture and Aorus is Gigabyte. Anon, are you feeling okay?
Arc770, yes?
>>103176036Get a 7900x or 7950x based on what fits in your budget. You should be set.
>>103176053no
>>103176053For what? Watching youtube vids?
>>103176010I'm upgrading for sure, should be able to dump the 5800x3D for a good price still so that'll offset the costNow to find a 9800x3D in stock is going to be another issue
I fucking hate PSU shrouds that cannot be removed without drilling, they're a dust collector.
>>103176078Dragons Dogma 2.
>>103176036> I'm upgrading my seven year old system for gayming and video editingUnless you are an overly critical enthusiast the 9700X will serve you very well if combined with an adequate GPU. More RAM, fast storage and GPU are more important than the CPU.
>>103176096IDK what that is, a game? Get a 7600xt for the same price instead?
>>103175776>>103175761it's fine. there are no traces inside the white circle for a purpose and the nicked trace outside of it doesn't look damaged. even if you damaged it it's probably nothing important, like audio or ethernet
>>103176096Look at this chart and then decide: >>103175168
>>103176010>>103176082I keep my 5800X3D busy until the 9950X3D dethrones the 9800X3D as the fastest gaymin CPU (in January '25).
>placed an order yeserday for a 9800x3d for 560 fucking euros >now the seller pumped the price at 579 eurosholy fuck
>>103176082My 4790k held it's value incredibly well because it was the best CPU for it's socket.I have a feeling 5800x3d will as well.
>>103176057Thanks fren, I'll look into those. I don't see any bundles for them, but I'll check the specs and keep looking.>>103176104I already bought a good GPU, and some speedy NVME storage. Will I get fucked over if I buy the 9700x microcenter bundle, or is the mobo/ram good quality?
>>103174772>RAM speed upgradethe question is if ryzen has benefits from faster clocked ram. My last information was that timings are way more relevant. Also are RAM speeds even limited by the chipset or isn't it just better design of the board? So when you buy a fresh revised 6xx board you should also be able to clock the ram higher, right?
Does anyone have recommendations on memory? Is this a good way to upgrade to 64 or am I being dumb since it is two separate 32 kits?
I never owned a high end GPU before. what's the experience like?
>>103176403>>103176403>>103176403
>>103176356buy 2x32GB instead, 4 sticks have a difficulty running at advertised speed
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7DRMpKThoughts on my build? Mainly gonna be for gaming, schoolwork (stuff in VMs), and workstation stuff (PS, video editing software). YYes ik some of the picks are weird, namely the case. But I wanted a blueray drive + an SD card reader/fan controller.
>>103176187> 9700x microcenter bundleDefinitely a good deal for that price. It's not the fastest possible Mobo+RAM of course but decent qt. Give the RAM a little more juice and it runs at even CL30 or clock at 6200MHz (needs manual settings in BIOS, there are tutorials on youtube).https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006832/amd-ryzen-7-9700x,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
>>103174837>>103175612>>103175632Here's a crazy idea since I'm seeing some great deals on RTX 3090s why shouldn't I get one and limit its power consumption to 300-320w till I get a bigger psu in the future? I don't imagine the performance would be reduced THAT much
>>103176356> Is this a good way to upgrade to 64It's a possible way but not the best. It would require the manual change of settings in BIOS that you and most others here probably never heard of. I recommend you get 2x32 or 2x48 GB of DDR5-6000 CL30 and just use the EXPO. This RAM would be lower latency and easy to install. Yes, the 32GB Flare X5 would not be used. Try to sell them.
>>103175946AssRock has shit legacy support. Running a linux dual boot was a fucking nightmare last time I tried on one.Also no BIOS flash on local drive support. Only USB. In 20fucking24.
>>103175826>plug the cpu and atx cable and short the power pins and see what it doesEither nothing or it gets angry, I don't think modern systems can function without the CPU power cable plugged in.
>>103174017No, that would be the 11800X3D 16 core CCD, Trust the plan.
>>103174017Sure would be nice. I don't really understand why they'd go with the hybrid design at all. It obviously has a lot more disadvantages and pitfalls than the "advantage" of a few hundred extra MHz on half the cores could ever make up for. Maybe you could say it's really for the increased clock on the 7950X3D but now with the 9000 series and the extra cache actually moving to the bottom there's really no conceivable reason to make it a hybrid.
>>103175282>$300 AIO for a 7800x3d >$300 mobo with only 2.5g LAN>6400mhz Gskill (LMAO NO THERMAL PADS) ram with 32 CL, instead of 28/30 CL 6000mhz ram for 7800x3d >SN770 1TB when the SNX850 1TB can be had for $12 more >ugly $380 fishtank case for some meme touchscreen, powered by proprietary software >PSU is fine, but could probably find better 1000w (per hardware busters rankings) for less, if you just wait for upcoming sales>Fans seem overly expensive, could probably get similar quality for half the priceAll in all, this is an awful fucking build. Could get a Frozen Prism for $55 or a Liquid Freezer III for $90, along with getting a $70-100 case, and immediately have $480 to spend on a better CPU, better mobo, better ram and better NVMEs.
>>103171914>Ultra dogshit 285k can't even make the chartLMAOOOOO
>>103175484If you clean your room regulary dust isn't a very big problem. I use my case over 10 years at this point (with some upgrades of course), never explicitly cleaned it from inside and there isn't any dust.
>>103175621>>103175602depends on what you work. If it is AVX heavy I would buy ryzen 9000
>>103172084>yfw am4 is actually eternal
>>103175238Drill
>>103172121What do you need AM5 for a NAS? I guess the 8600G have good idle power but not worth the cost when you can just get a 20 € AM4 board and put a 5500 for under 50 onto it if you want to run multiple VMs. If not, even a quadcore or Athlon X2 is enough. My 4350G 32 GB server ran about 30 W idle power but now I traded the ECC memory for more CPU power because the "Pro" CPUs are way overpriced.
>>103176739>AssRock has shit legacy support???
>>103174852Are you using asus ez flash from bios, it was pretty simple for me, i also used fromt panel usb ports
