>>103180846
>created a new thread at 309
Can you not be a massive faggot

>>103180832
>getting a 78x3d can i run 6400 1:1?
depends on memory controller lottery but you're better of running it at 6000 1:1 and timing your ram to the max

Strix 870-F or Gigadick x870E? Also do either split the pcie slot bandwidth when you use all nvme slots?

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>>103180846
Is there a tool to find bundles, like how PCpartpicker shows component prices?
I'm looking for a 9900x bundle, but might buy a 9700x bundle because I can't find big savings on the 9900x.

>>103180832
6200 is probably easier but if you get a good IOD you would be able to do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcn_nvWGj7U

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Well this is a pleasant surprise. It's coming significantly earlier.

>>103180960
yeah people need to calm the fuck down and anyone who bought from a scalper is a moron

>>103180893
>9700x
Why don't you like performance? Why not get 7900x or 7950x?

>>103180960
Grats anon

>>103180887
I'd stay away from gay-sus. I'd get asrock, but gigabyte is fine too. asrock x870e nova or taichi lite.

>>103180893
It's usually Newegg or Microcenter offering CPU/Motherboard/Memory bundles, not that hard to comb through.
Amazon's bundle deals are inconsitently offered and in limited quantities.

https://www.newegg.com/tools/combo-builder/6675?cm_sp=Head_Navigation-_-Under_Search_Bar-_-Combo+Up+Savings&icid=758623
https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx

>>103180960
Leaks are saying 9800x3d stock is very good so that's expected
For upgraaaders I recommend selling your 7800x3d asap while x3d pricing is high

>7900x3d
the fuck is this lads?

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Anyone do you know a program that can just fill dedicated vram for desired amount of megs?

I need this for testing perfomance of shared vram (trying timings vs clocks tests and ram overclock), so i need to fill dedicated/onboard gpu vram (high bandwith) to prevent gpu chip using it. And the tested games will use shared memory insted.

AMD ryzen APU youtube tests its a bit not what i need.

>>103181076
Figured it out it's 6c dual ccd cpu, garbage lmao.

>>103181076
An abomination.

>>103180985
>9700x
Has the performance I need at a reasonable price.
>Why not get 7900x or 7950x?
7900x is comparably priced to the 9900x, and I'd rather spend a little more for better performance. 7950x/9950x is more than I'd like to spend, but I could be swayed if I found a bundle inside my budget.
>>103181045
>Amazon, Newegg or Microcenter
That's where I've been looking, I was hoping there were more places with bundles.
I worry that if I stare at the 9900x for too long, I'll upsell myself, and start buying things I don't need.

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I WANT A 5090 I WANT A 5090

Should I be retarded and sell my sealed 7800x3d for 381 to 400 eur? Then wait a bit without a cpu and buy the 9800x3d? Or just sleep in the bed I've made and buy the next one instead.

>>103180874
>>103180900
So 6400 is a possibly then

>>103181149
How much will it cost with a 60% tariff slapped on top?

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I WANT A 5090 I WANT A 5090
>>103181167
ausfag here wealways pay the sloptax

>>103181159
Anything is possible but it's a lottery. You will have to waste days stress testing yourself once you get it and do the manual timings over and over again.

>>103181175
My usual solution is to up the dram volts to 1.4ish like i did with ddr4 looks like ddr5 no different

>>103181159
yes if your IOD can do it

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wew these mobo sales for am5 are nuts 800 series sucks but im guessing 600 series selling gangbusters
>>103181188
iod?

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>>103181171
>5090 2.8K USD = $4400 AUD

>>103181195
the IOD is the input output die on AMD cpus, it has the memory controller, pcie controller, USB controller and 2CUs of RDNA2 in Zen4/Zen5

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I haven't posted on /g/ or kept up on PC parts in years.
My 1080ti is slowly losing it's battle against game developers, and I knew STALKER 2 was going to finally be too much.

Was seriously considering a 4090 but I just don't game as much as I used to.
Did I do good?

>3440x1440@165hz
>750w PSU

>>103181216
Remind me, wich AMD zen generetions using heatsink under metal plate cover? Or they all dont?

>>103181216
it will be 3.5k~ AUD because why would the US Tarif be included in our price and kopite7kimi already confirmed the price has not increased from the 4090

>>103181250
I don't understand what you're asking.

>>103181261
>kopite7kimi already confirmed the price has not increased from the 4090
even Jensen doesn't know the price yet, he pulled that out his ass.

>>103181232
>STALKER 2
Will be not to much. I tried to test Hellblade 2 on gtx 1050 and its 8 fps, but if you turn on photo mode, fps is 20. Then disable some nanite crap and i got 40 fps in some arenas with photo mode, but devs "cap" fps in gameplay or so gods of optimisation, what the hell is happening and why i donno. But thats really weird.
1080 will holde stalker for sure.

>>103181275
MLID cope, your predictions have been dogshit this year just give up

>>103181232
4080s is not a bad pick, see if 7900xtx fits you, might be cheaper too.

Is 45°C max temp on a silent fan curve at idle good? Room temp is about 23°C.

>>103181250
To transfer heat from the crystal to metal plate cover of cpu intel used heatsing wich can dry.
Thats why people scalp their cpus, to replace heatsing with metal fluid. AMD did use heatsink or no?

>>103181289
don't swear at me.
what kind of delusion do you have to be under to think Nvidia will gift you more performance for the same money?

>>103181275
>I don't understand what you're asking.
>>103181310

>>103181261
More than 60% of Nvidia gpu sales are in US. If those drop massively the price of the GPUs sold abroad will go up as well.

>>103181155
Sure, if you have a backup system and don't need to be gaymen for 24/7
It won't be too long until 9800x3d drops to its 480 MSRP and available widely, making demand for 7800x3d far lower, lowering it's resale value

>>103181372
>480 msrp
+21% that means 550 eur, that's insane
I've paid 360 eur for the 7800x3d. I'd have to wait one more year for 2025 black friday or summer to get something even close to that.
>making demand for 7800x3d far lower
that's a guaranteed so say good bye to even the 360 eur price if I decide to rebuy it again. It already sells for way more.

I guess I'll have to sleep in my bed for two more years or three.

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Looking at upgrading my storage on my build but debating between getting a hdd or another SSD. It's mostly for archival stuff but I prefer the reliability of an SSD over a hard drive.

Secondly with tariff's becoming a thing, would it be worthwhile to build a new computer or wait a while longer? From reading the previous thread it seems like some of the AMD CPUS are having issues and the 5000s series have just been announced.

Thinking about waiting another year or two to see a bigger improvement in specs.

>>103181446
>I prefer the reliability of an SSD over a HDD
>buys seagate
Count your blessings for that thing still being alive.

>>103181003
Something like the taichi lite looks pretty decent, or should I drop down to the 2 sata ports on the riptide and use the 200 extra bucks for a sata expansion card?

>>103181446
>it seems like some of the AMD CPUS are having issues
thats not a thing, its just a moron who put the cpu in backwards

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>>103181517
Never had a Seagate SSD, are they as bad as their HDDs?

>cpu
ryzen 5 5500
>ram
32gb 8x4 3200hz
>mb
asus PRIME B450M-A II
>gpu
xfx rx5700
>storage
2hdd
1sata sdd
1 m.2 nvme sdd
>psu
msi MAG A550BN 550w bronze
>monitor
1080p


I found a PowerColor Hellhound RX 6700XT going about $230 in my country should I get it and to replace my rx5700?

>>103181232
long term dont get a 4000-5000 series the 12vhpwr is a disaster

>>103181261
4090s are still 3k here so that doesnt suprise me
should have got a 4090d cheap

>>103181625
Just fully plug it in moron

>1440p 27" 180Hz IPS
>9800X3D
>Phantom Spirit 120 SE
>4800S
>B650 ASRock SL
>2X16GB 6000/30
>2TB SN850X
Which PSU should be better? Mostly same price:
NZXT C850 3.1
be quiet! SP 12 850 3.0
MSI MAG A850GL 3.0
MSI MPG A850G 3.0

>>103181638
this has been disproved dozens of times FUCKWHIT

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>>103180846
Hello, I'm helping a friend with upgrading their PC and would appreciate some advice. It's been a while since I've shopped around, so I'm not familiar with what's good. Here's his rig's specs:
GPU: 1660 Super 6GB
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
RAM: 16 GB (2x8GB) DDR4
Monitor: 24" 1920x1080 144hz
He wants to be able to play games at 1080p on high/max settings. Checking around, I see that the RX 6750 XT is recommended often for this sort of use case - or the 3060 Ti or 3070 for the corresponding NVIDIA cards. Are there any cards you would recommend based on this use case? For the CPU, I'm thinking of the Ryzen 5 5600X. Would this do well with the aforementioned cards?
Budget is ~$1,000, based in the US and live near a Micro Center.

>>103181642
Wrong

>>103181624
it should be a decent 30% jump in performance

>>103181647
YES U ARE

>>103181611
This is purely anecdotal of course, but out of all the HDDs and SSDs I've had, only the seagate ones have died (3 in total). My longest lasting seagate was, ironically, a HDD that lived for about 5 years. This was about 10 years ago. The last seagate I bought was an SSD from 4 years ago that lived for 1 year.

>>103181644
6 cores to replace with 6 cores? Dont do this. If no money just skip cpu purchase.
Better check the PSU and buy new one if required and puwerful GPU for 800$

>>103181644
ryzen 7 x3d
rest on gpu which the psu can handle

>>103181644
5070X3D and a 4070 TI Super
Just within budget and it will tear apart 1080p

Koorui koorui 24e3
benq mobiuz ex240
KTC H24T09P
pixio px248 pro
MSI G244PF E2

all good 1080p panels 24 inch with low response time, buy the cheapest

>>103181624
Nah.
Save more and get something better.
You won't notice too much.
230 dollars isn't that great of a deal for that card anyway.
>>103181446
Get ssd if money isn't too much of an issue. Reliability doesn't differ much, but they are quiet unlike hdds.
You can make a build now and reuse the GPU. You will see decent improvement elsewhere.

>>103180846
What is that painted on the cylinder?
I thought it might have been the guy from this music video but I remembered wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRPxao3e_jY

Will it be alright to just use a all thermalright case fans or will they implode at some point? I know they're cheap due to manufacturing reasons but idk if there are some other downsides. I can do up to 10 120mm fans on my build and I don't feel like overpaying on case fans.

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>>103181658
Oh Seagate. I guess they're great for curing data hoarding, but not good for much else.

>>103181548
I bought x870 pro rs wifi for the usb4, wifi and pcie 5.0. Try to get x870 or x870e from asrock, any board.

>>103181737
>Save more and get something better
what would you suggest?

>>103181857
NTA, how much is 7900gre? Can you get that?

>seagate ssd

https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/#seagate

https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/#crucial

really funny seagate tbw is like almost doubling crucial number. i think seagate lied.

>>103181880
$629 I think that's a bit to much for me desu would my PSU even handle the 6700xt?

>98x3d burning up--
Oh no, not again...
>--in MSI boards
Ah. False alarm.

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>>103181899
You will need psu upgrades too. Are there any used cards around your area?

Why do people say I should buy 9800x3d instead of 14900k?

14900k is cheaper and has much faster speeds (6ghz) and more cores?

>>103181924
>14900k
Literal ewaste that commits seppuku. If you want cheaper, go with 7800x3d. Still one of the best chips around.

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>>103181117
Bump question.

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>>103181924
14900k uses more than double the power and for less performance to boot

>>103181924
Unlocked 13/14th gen Intels were degrading (at stock settings) due to excessive voltage. There is a patch out but given the nature of degradation it's not clear it's been fully fixed. Also the 9800X3D is just faster in games if that's your use-case.
Anyway, feel free to take a chance on the i9 if you like. It's a strong performer and the degradation issue has cratered the price.

>>103181924
>Why do people say I should buy 9800x3d instead of 14900k?
Because if you are one of the many unlucky people, your CPU will die, and Intel will not RMA you.
>14900k is cheaper
Because of these dying CPU issues, the MSRP of $590 has absolutely plummeted beyond any reasonable expectation for one year. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
>and has much faster speeds (6ghz) and more cores?
But if it were stable, it would be a great productivity CPU and a pretty good gaming CPU. However, let's be honest here. 90% of the people here are gamers first, and the X3D chips just fucking demolish intel.

>>103181970
the amdrone is lying again

>>103181938
>>103181940
>>103181963
>>103181970

But I do more than just gaming

I also do multi tasking and productivity

also the games I do occasionally are like sims or building games where I need higher ghz?

>>103181921
some 3070 are around the same price as 6700xt
6800 up are pretty rare over here unless your buying bnew
Would MWE Bronze 650 be good enough for the 6700xt if i pull the trigger?

>>103182021
>sims or building games where I need higher ghz
no you need faster memory performance for that and x3d is currently the undisputed king
>But I do more than just gaming
fair. if you need 32 threads then just the 14900k or even better, the 9950x

>>103182021
Consider 7900x and 7950x. I bought 7900x as I do not gayme. I'm planning to run vms, heavy ass compiles etc.

>>103182021
Yeah then like I said feel free to take a chance on the 14900K. FWIW there haven't been any credible reports of degradation with the new microcode. Just don't come crying if yours does die.

>>103181775
Please someone talk me out of buying thermalright case fans (or don't). I also have no idea what the difference between the TL C12C and TL C12B V3 is but I'm gravitating towards the latter fan.

>>103182039
I thought 7800x3d was better than 7900x3d or something what was difference again ?

>>103182039
>I bought 7900x as I do not gayme. I'm planning to run vms, heavy ass compiles etc.
should have gotten an Nvidia card
high end AMD is cringe as hell unless you're gaming

>>103182037
mwe v2 actually very good.

>>103182063
>>103182063
apologies, I'm drunk, i thought i read you got a 7900xt
my apologies i hope you understand

>>103181117
ask gpt to write a C/C++ script that takes up N mb

>>103182063
hes clearly talking about the cpu. who compiles code on gpus?

>>103182055
case and fan questions hardly get any answers in these threads

>>103182062
When it comes to x3d chips 7800x3d is better for windows because windows cannot handle 2 ccd scheduling. 7800x3d is better for gaymen.

>>103182063
Funny enough I'm just using iGPU and I'm on the fence for getting a GPU.

>>103182080
dude i read "i bought 7900xt as I do not game" and immediately went to flame

>>103182083
Im just confused 7800x3d looks so shit on paper with only 5ghz when most intel cpu's do 6ghz

>>103182071
No issues anon, I just wish amd upped their rocm game and gave decent performance of 7900xtx and 7900xt. I don't want to deal with Njudea on loonix. I want amd gpu but it won't find the use case, I want it for playing with llms and more models.

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>>103182072
Sorry I was unfair, those were before the AGESA patch that fixed the 200ns inter-ccd bug.
This is after the patch.

Fuck my words are slurring and my posts suck.

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>>103181117
>>103182076
Pay for gpt 4o, it's the best for programming right now. Your imagination and patience are the limit.

>>103181921
Seeing this chart but for cpu perf per watt would be fun

>>103182098
X3Ds huge and high performing L3 cache cheats in games anon. It's only downside of low clocks on older models is also pretty much fixed on the latest revision found on the 9800x3d

Does Lian Li have the only aesthetic "Mirror+RGB" fans on the market still?

>>103182128
But it depends on the kind of games. When you run big sims or sandbox thats different than call of duty

>>103182082
They seem like such an important part of a build, basically half of a system's cooling comes from them.

>>103182055
The cheap TR fans are pretty bad yes. Thin and brittle. However, they do work and the price reflects the quality. Plus, case fans don't have a hard job to do so no need for advanced flow optimizations etc.
I suppose the actual issue is why you're considering them in the first place? Buy a case with enough, or nearly enough, stock fans and add 1 or 2 to fill out the front intake. Heavy diminishing returns after that.
If you want something with slightly better build, but still cheap, consider the Arctic P12. If you're a richfag just go Noctua/NB/BeQuiet.

>>103182098
speed isn't everything, bulldozer still has speed records at 8.8ghz

>>103182142
Well It's up to use to study it and become the helpers. If I shat money or lived in US where everything is cheaper and refunding is easy and the market for reselling is big I would just buy stuff and test it out myself but alas I rely on you guys.

>>103182154
How come when I check userbenchmarks the 14900k is still performing better than any ryzen?

lmao case fans are the gayest shit to overpay on. Buy cheap fans. "muh noise" don't put it on your desk 2 foot from your ear like a brain dead gen z retard

>>103182141
https://factoriobox.1au.us/results/cpus?map=4c5f65003d84370f16d6950f639be1d6f92984f24c0240de6335d3e161705504&vl=1.0.0&vh=

14900k loses quite badly to the 9800x3d in factorio

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>>103182185

>>103182209
?

>>103182185
The ultra 9 285k would be perfect for you. It's the successor to the 14900k and better in every way

>>103182200
I have a 7950x, looks like it does terribly. That's pretty sad, I enjoy factorio.

>>103182145
>Why are you considering
My case only comes with 3 proprietary intake fans so I was looking for an alternative that would let me fill out the rest without paying over 200, I can fill up to 7 more fan slots. Reviewers keep saying these fans are good but idk anymore, they also make phantom spirit which is why I'm wondering.

>>103182185
>userbenchmarks
Lol.

>>103182227
agreed. only a poor would be seen with a previous generation cpu.

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>>103181117
>>103181939
https://github.com/GpuZelenograd/memtest_vulkan
example allocates 7.5gb of vram:

memtest_vulkan 0 7500000000

>>103182185
Even Intel themselves, the absolute kings of AMD flaming and hate, think UB is a massive cringeworthy faggot they want nothing to do with.

>>103182227
Thanks ill look it up but I thought it was more expensive and also not a bigger improvement over the 14900k thats why I wanted the 14900k

>>103182263
>>103182227

Yeah no, too expensive, my budget is like 500 max

>>103182267
get the 14900k, it's definitely not known for degrading in 2 months

>>103182237
Looks like 7900x also is not that great.

>>103182271
Isnt there like warrenty?

>>103182281
don't use warranty, buy a new one when it fails

>>103182281
Well no, that would be antisemitic and you'd be barred from entering god's holy land

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>>103182289
I dont have much money

I think about 7800x3d because it is also most popular and most bought on my webshop

Pic related

but yeah, Im afraid 7800x3d is too slow for the heavy sims game I do

Is this good combination?

>>103182292
Serious replies only this is a lot of money for me and I dont want a slow new system I need high speed

>>103182293
you def want to wait for 9950x3d instead

>>103182300
What are specs and timeframe and price?

>>103182304
16 core with l3 cache under both ccd for about 800€

>>103182276
Maybe I should upgrade to the 9950x3d when it comes out.

>>103182308
yeah thats too much, i only have 500 for cpu

>>103182321
then 9950x is an alternative but you'll regret not having l3 cache for the next 10 years

>>103182293
No you are bad at choosing parts

>>103182344
do for me

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>>103182293
>winklewagen

How can I determine if the memory is overheating on a Pascal card? Would it start artifacting or just crash abruptly?

>>103182415
you will start losing performance first

>7800X3D is going up in price again
lol
lmao, even

>>103182478
Thats what you get for thinking amd is your friend fighting against the jews

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>>103182252
Yes its working, but need to suspend process during test to avoid gpu chip usage.

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guys is this normal? my PC won't boot

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>>103182507
2nd pic of mobo

>>103182507

>>103182515
yes its normal if you install the cpu backwards

>>103182507
heres the source by "TrumpPooPoosPants"
https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1gqaryi/new_9800x3d_msi_tomahawk_x870_burned_up_i_guess/

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>>103181167
4k dollars for 4k gaming

>>103182478
God did I get in buying one at a good time lol pick it Monday

>>103182582
When you think about it, 1 dollar per P is a pretty good deal

>>103182533
>names themselves TrumpPooPooPants
Is this just some 800iq troll trying to sell a 'defective' board and cpu to gamers nexus and have them make a video where they have to say his name?

>>103182533
biden would never let this happen

>>103182611
>3840x2160
>3840
you dont even get the full 4k pixels

>>103182644
100%

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>2-3 months old build
>Sometimes restarts out of the blue
>Go into room and see some windows text saying "23% done, please do not turn off the computer"
>Assume it's an update
>Leave and come back in
>PC is turned off, turn it on
>Winload.efi missing

I just wanted a PC that just werks, I never had so many issues with a computer before. It feels bad to spend so much money only to get more problems that I'll have to spend time fixing.

>>103182293
> 7800x3d
> 498 euros
Get 9800x3d if you can, it's better and shouldn't cost that much more.
> ssd
> 241.88 euros
Seems pretty expensive for a 990 pro 2tb. Here in Austria, Amazon sells them for 162.35 rn.
> no gpu or psu
Gonna assume you have these already then.

>>103182668
is this a joke about the "warning remove plastic protector from the cpu cooler"?

A buddy asked me to build a PC for him but I haven't gamed in years, what modern slop should I use to bench and test the system?

>>103182679
Corsair 850 is PSU

SSD are expensive here

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>>103182501
you're otherthinking it
just run memtest_vulkan for 3 hours and https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/#introduction
for 10000% coverage

>>103182679
it says 9800x3d only supports max 5600mhz

im planning on getting 6400mhz ram

>>103182507
>>103182515
stfu you larping nigger
we've already concluded that redditor as braindead

>>103182724
>supports
yes you're the kind of person who needs tech support. buy a tablet

>>103182693
don't bother replying to that incel
he spams reddit pics
>>103182668
>>103182507
>>103182515

>>103182070
Thanks senpai ill wait a month if any good deals comes up

>>103182731
?

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>>103182293
>Moederbord

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>>103182715
(Sorry, I meant case rather than PSU.)
This is Netherlands, right? PCPartpicker sez "bol." has 990 pro 2tb for 179.90 euros.
>>103182724
Right, CPU manufacturers always claim to support only really low RAM speeds. For example, for 7800x3d it's only 5200.
That's just a minimum, almost all CPUs can do more than it.

>>103182837
okay so 6400 is no problem and best speed lowest cas?

thanks ill check out bol

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>>103182719
No you dont understang. I need just to fill gpu memory (vram) and kinda lock it. But that test is filling it and gpu load is 100% so i suspend the process (no more gpu load) and get what i need, then i run any modern game for test, but windows is moving memory parts by itself from vram to shared vram when not in use looks like. Thats suck.

>>103182844
its something like 100% can do 6000, 95% can do 6200, 50% can do 6400, 10% can do 6600 and 1% can do 6800
tldr get 6000cl28 or 6000cl30 if you're not keen on manually overclocking

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>>103182693
Nah, I just didn't want to take a new picture of my build, so I used a WIP one. I did manage to peel off the sticker before installing the cooler.

I feel like the reboots have gotten more frequent for whatever reason but I have no idea how I could pinpoint what's wrong.

>>103182735
No, it's my own picture.

>>103182668
I had this happen a while back and in my case it was the Samsung 870 drive shitting itself after a few months. Didn't find out until later that there was a bad firmware update.

>>103182895
kek, welcome to the club
fuck samsung drives

>>103182895
>>103182668
This was me on a SN770 drive. Firnesre update fixed it.

>>103182918
Firmware*

are we entering a dark age of CPU prices?

>>103182884
So pretty. Asrock nailed it.

>>103182941
we're already 2 months in

>>103182946
the diagonal pixelated print is tacky af

>>103182953
Your mom is tacky.

>>103182831
There's only two things I can't stand in this world...
People who are intolerant of other people's cultures...
And the Dutch.

Asus has fallen. Their TUF lineup is now like ROG Strix. Overpriced and not much better quality than other brands like ASRock Taichi. Big example is how the TUF 7900XTX is Tier 3 just above reference but the Taichi and Phantom Gaming are Tier 1.

>>103182918
>>103182895
I have an SN850x, I will go update its firmware, thanks! That's not something I would've thought of myself.

>>103182953
It's the best looking white/gray mobo I found. I sent back a taichi carrera because the marble print looked way worse than this

>So 70fps without FG, enabling FG will get you 60fps native, and outputting 120fps with similar to 30fps input latency.
who asked for this? This is lower IQ than the Stadia thing.

>>103182941
the 9900K was $488 in 2018, the 9800X3D is $479 which is basically $405 in 2018 dollars.
so if anything the top CPU price has come down

>>103182941
7600 is 200$
5700x3d is 170$
and now nvidia is entering the desktop cpu space in 2026

>>103183011
its something you dont know you need until nvidia makes it

>>103183011
You're supposed to combine it with Nvidia Reflex or AMD Antilag in the driver. The input lag is negated mostly while you still keep the visual smoothness. You're also supposed to pair it with a Freesync Premium monitor so Low Framerate Compensation kicks in.

>>103183053
Reflex primarily focuses on reducing the CPU-bound portion of the render queue so you CANNOT PHYSICALLY in this cosmos get less latency than the native before frame gen so it would still be slower than say 70 fps native and you'll still have added additional time to the overall rendering process from the interpolated frames so more latency as a base.

CPU work -> GPU work (native frame) -> GPU work (generated frame) -> Display. Reflex still optimizes the CPU->GPU handoff for the native frame, but the generated frame adds extra processing time after the initial GPU work is done.

is ray tracing something that people actually play with when its possible or is it reddit fps waste that you get bored of after week of playing with new gpu?

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>>103183071
Maybe on Nvidia but there's a measurable difference with AMD.

>>103183074
FPS waste

>>103183077
>AMD can break the space-time continuum.
Your image explains the exact same process behind Reflex. Re-read what I wrote.

>>103182707
Specs? Idk run whatever gay free benchmark software is meme

>>103183074
Ray tracing destroys the artistic intent of the designers that gave their ok for the assets and how scenes look. You'd need a game built up from start to finish at all levels of production with ray tracing for it to be coherent.
Otherwise it's not different from gaymers adding 8k textures to san andreas, puttin in assets from modern games and using reshade.

Would you pay 50$ extra for 3 fans instead of 2? On 4070 super

>>103183139
I would compare the models in a less one dimensional fashion

>>103183139
I would save the money and buy a 50xx gpu instead

>>103183074
You use that if you are on a 4080 or 4090 to comfortably take the hit on games where it actually brings noticeable change.
Otherwise it is just FPS waste yeah.

>>103183139
Chances are the 2x fan model is already doing good, check reviews, hardware unboxed gives info in depth for these things. Use AI to extract their info in table format. Also rely on techpowerup and other websites that give even more info.

>>103183139
Does paying like 8% more worth quieter operation to you?
I would if I am not on a tight budget, but I am not you ultimately.

>>103183189
Wait for 5070 Super in february 2026 or maybe buy it during summer/bf.

>>103183084
reflex is nvidias method for direct x games. amd has literal anti lag+ extensions built into vulkan api that nvidia doesnt have.

>>103183074
Waste.
Ray traced reflections are cool though.

>>103182996
>It's the best looking white/gray mobo I found. I sent back a taichi carrera because the marble print looked way worse than this
Mental retardation. But I shouldn't be the one to talk because I chose an expensive board because I didn't like the pg lightning.

>>103183229
Reflex is API agnostic.
>but what about.. x, y, z
>whataboutism instead of admitting being wrong or attempting to refute the central point in case you believe I'm in the wrong
at the end of the day none of these things can do magic, sorry, there's simply more latency at the end of the chain if you measure it with frame gen hence why it's a moron feature

>>103183074
Nah I do love how beamng looks with maxed out reflections looks really nice especially at night however it's not raytrace based i think it's voxels? Looks and runs nice in vr maxed anyway

>>103182846
I DO get it
but I don't want to support your pointless retardation, of which you didn't even name a reason for

Anyone know a PSU that comes with nice flat, flexible cables? I got be quiet straight power and the cables are so thick and chunky it's very inconvenient for cable management. Especially that ATX 24 pin makes a big U shape routing it back to the grommet.

ddr5 6000cl30 vs 6800cl34

which are better kit

>>103182941
we already did, when the 7800X3D went from 330€ (including tax) to 450€
also thanks to Intel, for literally killing itself

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>>103183011
working as intended
the RTX 8090 will be GeForce now exclusive

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If you had a old gtx 1650 lying around, what CPU would you pair it with ?
ideally something I don't have to spend over a $150 for a motherboard / cpu combo as I already have spare RAM and hard drives lying around from another old PC.
I want to make a semi-decent mini itx shitbox for piracy and emulating old games in HD.

>>103183331
Assuming AM5, get the 6000cl30. Running 6000 cl30 at 1:1 is going to be faster than running 6800 at 2:1.

>>103183371
an old ryzen like the 2600 or 1600af

>>103183331
Also, to get better performance, you are looking at ddr5 8000 kits and very expensive motherboards.

>>103183330
You need thicker and higher gauge cables for certain things anon.

>>103183331
why not 6400 cl32 its what I wanna buy

>>103183371
> ideally something I don't have to spend over a $150 for a motherboard / cpu combo
Nothing so cheap on pcpp, there is on ebay. MicroATX instead of ITX has more options.

>>103183371
Try something used, 4600g, 4650g, 5600g for board, itx boards are expensive. I'd go asrock for boards, though. 150bux and itx don't go in the same line.

>>103183425
would there be much difference between a 2600 or 1600X ?
the latter is only $30 secondhand here whereas the 2600 is $50.
I already know a ITX am4 motherboard will run me $100 - 140, it'll probably be the most expensive part to buy.

>>103183457
Get that only if it also comes with a 6000 expo profile.

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>>103183445
I used to have this cable set for a Silverstone PSU. Was very nice for cable management in a smallish case.

>>103183370
how can anyone be that fat

>>103183324
>your pointless retardation
What? I defined the point at the beggining.
>I need this for testing perfomance of shared vram (trying timings vs clocks tests and ram overclock)

>>103183457
good luck running that on ryzen
only a fraction cpu can do 6400 and an even smaller number can do that at low voltages

>>103183493
i dont know what that is

>>103183523
oh yeah I saw it too it can only support max speed of 5400

maybe i should also get 6000 instead of 6400 then if I wanna go with ryzen?

>>103183505
Americans with too much money and too little self control

>>103183382
Can 6800cl34 kit do 6000cl30

>>103183531
If you look at the spec, it should list all the expo profile that it supports, if it doesn't do 6000, you might have to end up doing undervolting and shit. Better to go with 6000.

>>103183531
6200 is the true sweet spot but no recent kits are rated for that
The next best would be 6000cl28 or cl30

>>103183543
If it doesn't come with a 6000 expo profile?

>>103183492
get the 2600 if possible. its has a lot better compatibility with ram and in general better.

is it normal for my monitor to looks slightly yellow-ish when its "color-accurate"? It does match extremely close to my phone srgb mode with somewhat more deeper colors

>>103183554
you set it manually

>>103183585
might as well buy green hynix sticks and pocket the difference

>>103183589
you wont able to get 6000 with green stick manual or not

>>103183599
bullshit. those use the same ICs and its what overclockers bought before all these fancy xmp kits launched and they can do 7200mt/s just fine

>>103183601
good luck getting lucky with that

If I buy an AM5 motherboard with a 5+2+2 Phases Digital VRM Solution, is it a bad idea to buy a high-power CPU like a 9950X?

>>103183564
make sure you don't have warm colours activated if you are using windows.
I set mine to come on a night to reduce eye strain and it basically yellows out the screen.

>>103183613
Getting lucky with buying hynix a die by searching the exact part number? Lol ok

>>103183555
okie dokie, thanks anon.

>>103183626
yes you fucking retard

>>103183505
Cheap food, childhood trauma
Although for people that fat, it's actually pretty damn expensive to maintain that. If they ate the "average" amount of calories for an American they would drop 10lbs a month with no other effort.

>>103183626
Search for the exact right memory die is overrated, just get something on your boards QVL.

>>103183637
ok stop talking about yourself now

>Can 6800cl34 kit do 6000cl30
can anyone else who isnt a retard tell me can you do this

>>103183666
you can but buying an xmp you cant use is retarded

>>103183672
Xmp for retard like you

>>103183675
bold of you to assume i use xmp

Can a GPU overclock pass stress tests and be fine in games but cause occasional freezes during light use?

>>103183694
yes

>>103183694
yes

>>103183694
dynamic frequency scaling is a thing on cpus & gpus. stress tests max out the power on all cores so they cant boost as high. light tasks will boost individual cores higher.

>>103183697
>>103183698
And why does this happen exactly? Should I use a curve instead of a flat offset so the low power state clocks aren't too high?
>>103183710
Does this happen on older cards, too (mine is a 1070Ti)? And if so, is the reported clock just the highest across all cores?

>>103183734
nvidia cards have had it since gtx 600
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/gpu-boost/technology/

>>103183740
Now that I think about it I do sometimes see the max clock value in HWInfo reach about 25Mhz higher than what I set it to. Should I just relax the OC a bit or can this behaviour be disabled?

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>>103183694
Nvidia? no, because they allow you to adjust every voltage point of the curve

AMD? yes, because they are lazy niggers and only give you an offset

>>103183769
>Nvidia
forgot to say, if you crash with them its a skill issue/user error

and for AMD you're just fucked because you don't get granular controls

>>103183753
you lower the power limit or lower the clocks. whichever is the limiting factor first.

>>103183779
>>103183769
Stupid phoneposting cunt

>>103183780
What does the power limit have to do with crashing? If your PSU can handle the spikes you just leave it on max.

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>>103183614
as you can see the shittier boards throttle it but there is no need to get a fancy $200 luxury board

I changed my motherboard preset to
> PBO, Tjmax 85C, curve optimizer -30mv
Is this good? I have no idea I'm just kind of going through different presets to gauge the performance vs temps.

>>103183789
>If there’s extra power available, a Boost Clock is enabled increasing clock speeds until the graphics card hits its predetermined Power Target.
the boost is determined by the power limit or clock rate.

>>103183794
how do you know it's stable

9800x3D MSRP is $479, but last night and this morning there's a very shady seller on Amazon trying to sell them for $439.
I say shady because the seller page says it's "newly established", they have nothing else on their seller page other than the 9800x3D, no reviews, and their location is somewhere in China (but the address is entirely in Chinese letters, so IDK where)
So I can only assume it's a scam.

>>103183810
it's 50-50 whether it's a scam, I'd say it's not worth the risk nor the extra wait time.

AMD to cut 4% of global workforce as it focuses on AI chip development - Reuters

>>103183675
thermal cycling hardware 50 times while tuning for 5 fps is fucking moronic

>>103183820
>5fps
Lol, lmao even, 2 at best on a low resolution you don't even use.

>>103183820
playing video game are moronic too

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>>103180846
>RTX 4070 Super
Okay but which one? Does it even make a difference?

>>103183844
you buy the cheapest triple fan, that's it

>>103183844
pro tip: wait two more months for 5070!

>>103183870
But black friday..

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>>103182507
>>103182515
learn how to install a CPU retard

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>>103183229
wrong

>>103183870
It'll be 650$ for sure.

>>103183802
didn't crash yet... is there a way to test for stability?

>>103183925
OCCT (set it to variable load, run for at least an hour). Ironically, if the undervolt is too much it might crash right after you finish the test.

>>103183819
Oh no the 50 people still employed at rtg got fired
Anyways
And I say that as a amd GPU fan the drivers are fucked had to reinstall ones from 4 months ago just for it to be stable maybe it's my old PSU but still wtf if it still happens on a new build I feel like RMA and getting a 5090 I think its definitely a driver issue but suddenly not being able to OC or uv UC in adrenaline makes me think it's power related

Ausfags any chance anyone's got a tip on a 9800x3d delivered for 800? Supposedly they come back in stock today (15th) otherwise it's a used 78x3d for 550

>>103183925
sha3 a must
try AVX2 small data set in OCCT
y-cruncher, prime 95

>>103183791
Get back to us after you stop the street shitters from invading your country.

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will this shit burn my house down?

>>103182298
He's being completely serious, the melted 13/14 series cpus are not being replaced because using alternative thermal paste was considered too antisemitic.

>>103183938
>>103183958
OCCT seems to be Windows only
I'll try y-cruncher

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>>103183969
Get back to me after you've executed every single kike from your mixed mystery meat muttnigger zoo

>>103183876
It will be even cheaper after the release. Believe me.

Might have found one at ijk but will have to wait and see will take a fortnights neet cennos 850 shipped roughly wish me luck

>>103183969
where's your foreskin pedro

>>103184005
you can run it in wine
ycruncher is wonderful my favorite benchmark and stability test in one

Would a 5090 bottleneck a 9800x3d? Mainly for VR in msfs24 and beamng 6k res in a quest 2

>>103183794
>-30mv
-30 CO is more like -150mv lol

>>103183988
I wouldn't do it for .2 height difference

CPU scalpers now a thing that amd and Intel gpus are cheap gonna pay 550usd for a fucking 9800x3d better be fucking amazing

>>103184068
why? 7700 non X is $200

>>103184068
>buying from a scalper
bruh

>>103184053
Uhh the 5090 isn't out so why would anyone have an answer to your question?

>>103184093
It's not a scalper it's a retailer charging 100aud over msrp
The actual scalper is the one selling a 78x3d for 350usd used but that's my backup

>>103184053
lol no
9800x3d already bottlenecks the 4090. A gpu that's 30-50% faster will be in bottleneck city until the 19800x3d launches

>>103184062
It'll be a pretty big difference, the cable currently makes like a big U shape out of the grommet then immediately back to the board. I got angles for the USB headers already since I'm less worried about them melting or something but the ATX one looks kinda sus.

>>103184097
its the early adopters' tax. I dont think this will go on for long since its not like crypto where every wannabe miner bought infinite amounts of gpu when they're in stock. Eventually, 9800x3d's supply will surpass demand and it will fall to msrp and even below msrp given enough time.

>>103184094
Based on leaks it's 50% faster than a 4090 at the same price
AMD gpus are dead until udna rdna 4 is a flop
Rdna 5 probably as well we will have to wait until 2026 to find out which puts udna 6 at 2027 minimum
Next 3 years is gonna be bleak no competition from amd or Intel in gpus battlemage mia Intel also shitting the bed in every other way including CPUs and Nvidia competing against themselves for almost 5-10 years running in gpus

>>103184100
Will that even be on am5? Any other good sites to sell buy used PC hardware on besides Facebook marketplace eBay ali express for Aussies? Might have to unload CPU and mobo if that's the case

>>103180846
Is it safe to put the monitor on tempered glass side??
s-shouldn't be too heavy right?

>>103184132
>>103184132
>>103184132

>>103184116
So if I wanted to hold out drop a Ali express 7500f in for 100 bucks? How long would I have to wait

>>103184126
zen6 should be the final generation for am5.
zen7 and a couple generations beyond will be on am6

>>103184135
I'd give it 6 months. Definitely not worth waiting for if you have to spend on an interim cpu.

>>103184142
So don't bother waiting for 6? I feel like a 79xtx will be about even with a 9800x3d/7800x3d
>>103184149
Seen prices here go up 100-200 for a 7800x3d new and used anyway would rather get a intrum CPU than get scalp

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I've bought 4070 last december, then 4070 super released instantly, fml
trust rumors!

>>103183614
B650m hdv/m.2 is the lowest I'd go.

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How does this looks guys? Prices are kinda shitty here, I'll be mainly gaming at 1440p, wanted to go AM5 just to future proof it, will likely upgrade the CPU when the prices are less fucked

>>103181640
>MSI MPG A850G 3.0
This.

>>103181924
14900K is better if you can tune and OC it
But if you would know that you wouldn't come here
Just get the 9800x3d or 13600K.

>>103181924
This dude listens to userbenchmark lmfao

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1856887575715483648/pu/vid/avc1/720x1280/pMzRtJpO6MDd3DoX.mp4?tag=12