VINCENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>103184924
QRD?
I already now that VC is a cuck

>xe trusted a service that has "cock" in the name
Faggot mentality
Mailbox.org just works

>>103184924
Retard opened registration for all and kept it open for years. He deserves it.

>>103185032
this, I was hoarding invites and he made them useless.

>>103184924
You need to buy an ad bro

I actually use it as my main email address for everything non work related, should I be worried?

>Vincent telling people not to migrate
>canary now specifies that they are not under duress
So wtf is he doing, just being a retard for nothing? He really gave us all a plausible notification of a government shutdown but now makes it sound like he was just an idiot phrasing things in the shadiest way possible completely accidentally.

That or the glowies are blackmailing him to write this stuff now, but if so they would've already blackmailed him for his private key anyway.

>password changes offline
this is how you know it is the feds btw

>>103184924
>has not "shut down"
>can't access the site normally
liars

>2024-11-12
Nearing the end of those 48 hours. If this is the final cum shot of our kindred phallic mail (and hosting) provider then I wish them nothing but the very best for enduring year after year of cocked up services.
>>103184949
Likely glowies, either gagged or suspecting they may receive a gag order and further instructions to cooperate in the foreseeable future. Specific choice of vocabulary regarding "hardware" is either 'tismo/'tardation or a carefully worded message for the scrupulous reader.
Either that, or the shitposting birb connoisseur is up to some shenanigans and decided this is their means to draw up funding. Wouldn't count it out but wouldn't particularly bet on it.
>>103185136
>>Vincent telling people not to migrate
Read the full line, pal. The advice is against migrating to specific providers, namely the big obvious honeypots.
>>canary now specifies that they are not under duress
That's the whole point of a cannary, to serve as an indicator should said line no longer be present at a later update.

>>103184924
>>103184924
>>103184924
WHAT ABOUT THE INSURANCE FILES

So can I use my email now or still no?

>>103185419
I was able to log into all my meme emails but don't even remember what accounts used what email to create them. Too lazy to check.

>>103185419
I can't log into my cock.li email, been trying for two days now.

>>103184938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBcIcS7343U

uoohhhhhh~

what the fuck is in the encrypted files he wants us to seed?

>less than a week b4 cock.li's 11th birthday

LIBERTY CANARY
Date updated: 2024-11-14

Cock.li is in 100% control of all of its hardware, and the service is still operating normally. The website (account registration+pw change) is currently offline.

Cock.li will shut down before becoming complicit in crimes against its own userbase under duress of any government or organization.

Cock.li is not under duress of any government or organization.

Until further notice, THIS CANARY SHOULD BE UPDATED DAILY. Under no circumstances will we let this canary go 48 hours without changing the "Date updated" above unless a PGP-signed message changes the schedule.

The schedule or PGP key used to sign this message may be changed only according to signed message from key 5CB49CDCEAC797FBF8BDC074FD71AD2771A5CC1B. Any message certifying the change of PGP key should be displayed alongside all messages signed with the new key for at least 7 days.

~!~

>>103185333
>Read the full line, pal. The advice is against migrating to specific providers, namely the big obvious honeypots.
Oh yeah you're right. Fuck.

>That's the whole point of a cannary, to serve as an indicator should said line no longer be present at a later update.
Yes but the line was not previous in the previous update, only the line about having "100% control of the hardware" was.

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>>103184924
same shit happened to riseup in 2016
https://nitter.poast.org/riseupnet/status/801902121150869504
>1. There is no need for panic.
>2. Our systems are fully under our control.
>3. We will provide additional information at a later date
they changed their canary schedule, then their canaries had opposite meaning
>4. Our prior tweets did not have any hidden subtext.
https://forums.whonix.org/t/riseup-net-likely-compromised/3195/2

>>103185333
checked, refusal to elaborate also matches with riseup
also picrel, i thought was funny

Whomever it was that donated that 6k, thanks. Hopefully Vincent can continue to provide the service.

>>103185920
I'm guessing xe takes issue with the use of "people" instead of "folks"? Totally nuts.

>>103185979
>we the folks

>>103185920
>make the "mistake" of using gendered pronouns
>if mooods complain I say that I'm from some african country with gendered language so I'm sorry about it haha
>keep making the "mistake" of using gendered pronouns

>>103185979
afaik they were sperging out over "guys", which the janny seems to have replaced with "y'all"
i thought anarchists would be against e.g. moderators?

folx

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>>103185017
>try for free

>>103185333
>>103185017
>reddit types
>calls others faggots

least self-projecting retarded newfag

>>103186030
An anarchist is a fascist who pretends the US government isn't fascist

>>103186261
neoliberalism for goths?

>>103185979
making sure not to misgender people is a far more important issue than glowies possibly putting our protestors in PITA prisons for life

if you ever ask what happened to OWS, just frame this tweet.

>tfw can't donate because no job
reeeeeeeeeee

>>103186376
Until they give more details about what is happening, don't donate.

>Why?
Because while IP addresses are legally connected to computers, not humans. Money is connected to humans undeniably. You have no idea if you're giving money to the admins or a glowie honeypot who set it up in hopes of making retards willingly give up their financial information that directly traces back to them and their bank accounts.

>>103186391
bitcoins and basically everything short of Monero (arguably, only with safe practice) also counts as money btw. Or at least monetary favors that link to your financial information.

>>103186237
your guaranteed livestreamed suicide will be my favorite gooning sesh of the month.

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>>103184924
we can't have nice things anymore

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I thought pissmail would have been a good alternative but then I went to the owners website and saw this

>>103186560
yeah not nigge.rs but still looks good

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>>103186560
which leads to this, shit glows brighter than the sun

>>103186391
Send Monero then

>>103186560
I wish they had ONE normal domain. Liek cock has Airmail.cc

>>103186632
dmc.chat looks normal

>>103186632
Closest one I saw was dmc.chat

>>103186644
>>103186643
What does DMC mean though

>>103186727
devil may cry

>>103186727
the storm that is approaching

>>103186391
What is illegal about donating to cock.li?

They finally get caught grooming? Never use a meme site for a service you care about.

>>103184924
What are some other email services that I could try?
No Tuta, Proton, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Apple or any other big tech.

>>103186574
>Proxified and sanitized view message
What are you using?

>>103185333
the canary has its own update date retard
go look at the gpg signed version

>>103186968
disroot

>>103186996
>the canary has its own update date roodypoo
>go look at the gpg signed version
Canaries mean nothing. Judges can absolutely set a gag order, especially under NSL. Go ahead and try to argue with the judge about constitutionality. You can sit in a cage whilst the EFF "fight" for 30 years.

>>103186968
Pissmail.com seems like the best alternative atm.
There's also disroot.org and mailfence.com. But both have their own issues, and are not really comparable to cock.li.

>>103186968
I've been using derpymail.org since like a decade now. It just werks.

>inb4 bronyshit
Your loss

>>103187147
>stained glass vore pony art
pretty cool

>>103184924
ahahaaha /g/ pedo schizos btfo. you get what you fucking deserve.

>>103187147
Is it possible to register?
What do we type in the third inputbox?

WTF DO I USE NOW!!!!!????

I went from gmail to protonmail to cockli

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>>103187147
You'll be fucking shot

So it's been taken over by glowniggers or what? That's what I'm getting from this. The point of a canary is that it's supposed to be unambiguous, if they start fucking with it or there's anything suspicious or irregular about it you're supposed to assume it's compromised.

>>103187230
Oh dang, didn't notice that part. Damn.

Well, you can always try and contact the admin through the support tab. I think that might be how I made mine, had it done manually by him.

>>103187271
Right, I see that he has listed a "reg @ derpymail" in there as well. Guess I'll give it a try.

>>103187231
roll your own
https://mailinabox.email/

>>103187118
>mailfence
IMAP is paid

>>103186996
Duly noted, I have the reading comprehension of a toddler so please do forgive.

>>103187239
if it was wouldn't they just keep it running as normal

>>103187363
Good catch. The other problem with this service (which made me hesitant on recommending it) is that they're based in Belgium, and have handed over data in 100 out of 207 cases.
https://blog.mailfence.com/transparency-report-and-warrant-canary/
That being said, they don't require PII and you can sign up with VPN.

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>>103185573
Around a month ago, I asked him if he could give me the encryption key for the one hidden in COCKCON 2020 (2019)'s OvO release, and instead of giving it to me, he asked me if I had found the two other. At the time, I had no idea what he was talking about, so I asked for further information, but he never replied. I guess that these are the two new files that he released yesterday. Also, for some reason, it seems that he has now removed any reference to these files in the warning page. I'm prettty sure that he is being silenced by glowies right now. Hopefully they won't get him suicided.
>>103185920
Yeah, but riseup seemed sketchy from the beginning. It glows as much as ANOM.
>>103187357
Self-hosting SMTP is basically impossible these days. Most ISPs block port 25, and even if you can get a plan with all ports unblocked, your residential IP will look like a massive red flag to all big providers and you will inevitably end in the spam folder. I guess that you can still host on a VPS, if you are lucky enough to get one with an IP that has not been abused to hell yet.

>>103185573
Someone posted this in the previous thread. Could very well be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch#Blackmail

>>103187686
>Also, for some reason, it seems that he has now removed any reference to these files in the warning page.
why the fuck would he do that

>>103187817
Maybe the glowies got mad. Are you fags seeding the files?

>>103187686
self hosting is still a good idea if you only care to receive email, e.g. signing up for things

>>103185707
>>less than a week b4 cock.li's 11th birthday
I swear to god if this is VC's idea of some sort of birthday related fuckery...

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>>103187686
>and even if you can get a plan with all ports unblocked, your residential IP will look like a massive red flag to all big providers and you will inevitably end in the spam folder.
I see now...

>>103187686
>Self-hosting SMTP is basically impossible these days. Most ISPs block port 25, and even if you can get a plan with all ports unblocked, your residential IP will look like a massive red flag to all big providers and you will inevitably end in the spam folder.
Fake news. All the VPS and physical server providers allow 25 inbound, allow custom FCrDNS and will allow 25 outbound if you open a ticket and point out that you are not a uce sending asshat and agree that if you spam you will do 10,000 pushups nude at the Vatican whilst a shame nun yells SHAME! and rings a bell.

If you call yourself a agorist and use github, you are a hypocrite.

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NOT MY PROBLEM

>>103187877
but i dont want to fucking self host. i just want to use email provider that is secure and not gmail botnet.

why is that so hard

>>103188288
>and rings a bell
For fucks sake. There's always a step I forget in setting up these virtual Rube Goldberg machines.

what does this mean? what is the tl dr?
i can still login into cockli

>>103188367
We know as much as you do.
The site was changed to look as compromised as Vince could ever make it look. And the canary is completely nuked.

>i can still login into cockli
So can everyone else. Maybe it's a good time to migrate any important accounts.
Alternatives have been discussed earlier in the thread.

>>103185802
>Cock.li will shut down before becoming complicit in crimes against its own userbase under duress of any government or organization.
based, better dead than giving up to faggot glowtards

>>103188288
Isn't running the mail server in a paid VPS defeating the purpose

>>103188639
Not at all. You control your mail. If you mean for a starving college student, dont worry that degree will buy you a VM before you age off this mortal coil.

>>103186521
>The feds have a CP database
>Somehow this is completely legal for them
The bioluminescent niggers have proved yet again that they're above the law.

How long is a "temporary ban" for fucking up the capcha on tuta registration?
Did it incorrectly and now i cant sign up using any VPN or my real IP, if i enter another email it gives me capcha, change it to address i actually want banned, did they ban my fucking address?

someone register cunt.li

someone register cunn.li

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>>103185362
>>103185573
>>103187686
someone explain what's in the encrypted files and why vincent removed them from the page

>>103189073
better ask yourself why would anyone in here actually know this if they are encrypted and apparently vc intends them to stay this way unless something really bad happens
i gotta be honest, the average iq of this board is dropping with every passing year

>>103186910
Nothing is illegal about connecting to ANY honeypot, what it does do is put you as a suspect on a list of people who are considered highly dangerous/extremely suspicious, and unless you're literally the most upstanding and clean citizen on Earth; they're going to investigate and bust you for SOMETHING. Even crimes you're not even aware are crimes like minor reporting errors on your taxes. That's why it's generally advised to avoid honeypots even if you aren't doing anything wrong.

>>103186376
I also say don't donate, but only because the situation is so unclear. If he's currently under a gag order and being fucked by glowies, there's no point in throwing money into the void. If the service is about to shut down because they're about to be compelled to "commit crimes against their users", then again no real point in donating.
I'm waiting at least 1-2 weeks to see how this unfolds. If by then it looks like things are stabilising and they're really just short on money to staff the website, I will definitely consider throwing them a bunch of dosh. But I just don't wanna do that when it could shut down tomorrow and no-one knows what's happening.

>>103186391
One can, hypothetically, use monero (with your own node, mind you), with outbound connections configured over tor-only. With the combination of their dandelion protocol and tor, it would be very, very, very hard for glowies to connect you to this.
Of course if you're just worried about seeming suspicious then even downloading the monero node might be an issue, but IMHO experimenting with running monero is something everyone should do to increase the anonymity set. Merely running the software out of a technical interest has perfect plausible deniability.

>>103187147
It's slightly annoying that it only has that one domain. I have several horsefucker.org emails, but I also have several airmail.cc and firemail.cc emails and this was a very nice feature from cock.li. Sometimes I just don't wanna sign up with a horsefucker or derpymail address.

Also, yeah, are registrations actually open? I thought they closed forever ago.

so which one of you guys committed the crime that led to this

cockbox seems to be fully back

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>>103188798
Can't VPS providers straight up clone your instance and inspect everything?

email is dead, stop trying to make it more gooder. it's not possible.

>>103190043
What we need is a universal messaging bridge.
Email, chat, newsgroups, forums and imageboards served through one unified protocol, with automatic encryption if the target platform supports it.
>b-but XMPP
Not enough supporting platforms.
>b-but Matrix
Not enough users.
>b-but Telegram
If you can't monitor the code, it monitors you.

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>>103190155
It's true because it's funny.
But pragmatically, you can't solve the n standards problem without introducing standard n+1 that abstracts all the others.

>free email inbox
>notice inbox
How many of you would sign up for this?

>>103186574
>>103186560
>oh my hecking science why is something so problematic allowed in the hecking current year internet??
pussy

>>103190141
email is already that.
>b-but muh encryption
just use gpg. you already use your email in keyservers to advertise your pubkey.
>newsgroups
newsletters.
>forums
mailing lists.
>imageboards
mailing lists.
>but the encryption isn't automatic!
it's easier to write a layer over email that automatically encrypts, decrypts and checks signatures on an email client than it is to get people to accept another standard >>103190155
that's why cock.li is so important. it's an email provider that doesn't require phone numbers to register. if you know anything about opsec you can completely unlink your real identity from the universal communication means of the internet (email) without losing the capacity to have a private conversation (gpg encryption) and assured identity (gpg signatures).

that's why glowies want cock.li dead, too.

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>>103184924
>>103184949
>>103185032
>>103185920
>>103186968
>>103185362
Just use protonmail. They've been proved not to share emails.
Also anybody using cock.li of all things for anything important is a complete retard.

>>103191553
>protonmail
No IMAP = useless

>>103184924
Youve been talking alot about cock lately. You trying to tell us something?

Selfhost email sucks
Stupidly time consuming to set up and also you wnd up in spam folders

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>>103185040
lmao, imagine 'hoarding' invites to some retardmail that nobody cares about

>>103192485
I sold 10 invites for a whole Monero back then

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I use these emails for literally everything. I don't mind the fairly consistent downtime, but it sure will be a setback to lose them.

Vince I didnt steal your radio

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>migrate
How? I use the cock.li email for throwaway accounts, but there's no way to actually move the receive those emails anymore if the servers go down, right?

>>103191553
>They've been proved not to share emails.
Wasn't it the exact opposite
Also yeah, no imap and auto-deletes your account on inactivity. Honestly if not these two things I'd probably have considered it

do people actually use this? why?

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>>103191553
>They've been proved not to share emails
kek

>>103193049
they got the ip address from proton, not the actual mail. nice try, glownigger.

>>103192955
Nope, show me 1 instance where they leaked emails!

>>103193049
>be a stupid catanigger and provide icloud email as a recovery
>police goes to proton and they have nothing except info the user has provided themselves, which is their inigger email
>tim cock rats out the stupid catalonian retard

how is this protons fault

>>103193161
>>103193689
sorry maybe proton is based after all

>>103184924
is that some kind of a tranny site?

>>103193796
go back

>>103193901
Reddit site gramps

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I still have a cock.li account active.
But not sure what to do with it.

>Furthermore, two more files are released today, 2024-11-12: ins10.luks (555MB) and ins11.luks (64MB). Please download these torrents and seed them as long as you can. Please consider your privacy when seeding.
can someone link the torrentz for those .luks i’m tryna seed muh cock

doesnt proton enable the use of imap with proton bridge?

>>103194197
[1]: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:TBU2RE2ENTL6USAZVX7HH7V3TYMK2KVI&dn=COCKCON%202020%20(2019)%20(2022)%20%5B1080p%5D%20%5BOvO%5D&tr=https%3A%2F%http://2Fpub.tracker.aaathats3as.com%3A443%2Fannounce
[2]: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:RZ5PIPVCPPJC7JWIVU74V5JANJ4O3RXL&dn=ins10.luks&xl=581959680&tr=https%3A%2F%http://2Fpub.tracker.aaathats3as.com%3A443%2Fannounce
[3]: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DX6I2QFYIBYZPCP5FPRBORTQVCM4NVRG&dn=ins11.luks&xl=67108864&tr=https%3A%2F%http://2Fpub.tracker.aaathats3as.com%3A443%2Fannounce

>>103194030
I have about 6

>>103185017
>not hosting your own mailserver
back to /v/ zoomer

>>103184924
>buy cheap domain
>install mailcow
>create dns entries
>acme cert
>its mailing time

>>103194228
Last I checked, the "bridge" is something you need to run locally, AND it's a paid feature.
I don't mind paid email on principle - if there's an anonymous option at least, like cash or monero - but it is definitely very scummy to paywall a basic feature like IMAP. And, even if I did pay for that, I'm not running proton code on my fucking machine - just let me connect to my email with thunderbird. Their official justification is that because of muh encryption it's not compatible with IMAP, but again, muh encryption is also not compatible with any other email hosts; if it allows you to send to and receive from non-protonmail addresses it should also allow me to connect over IMAP at that point because there is zero security downside.

Vincent has either had a complete mental break down, or he's been replaced by someone emitting bio-luminescence.

So now that the dust has settled. Do I need to move my emails somewhere else or is it all returning to normalcy?

>>103185097
cock.li has paid ads on 4chan """"bro""""

>>103187686
Write a letter to your ISP to unlock port 25 on your connection. The rest of what you say is bullshit.

>>103187118
>But both have their own issues
Such as?

>>103188476
>better dead than giving up to faggot glowtards
can't say the same about telegram

>>103195202
Disroot is run by anarchist lefties. A couple of people in here have reported they will suspend your account, if you start receiving certain mails that does not align with their ideologies.
They also openly state that you cannot use your account for anything commercial, whatever that means to them, because capitalism bad.

Mailfence is based in Belgium, and have handed over data in 100 out of 207 cases.
They also have IMAP locked behind paywall.

What's up. Why did my message disappear?

>>103193049
around the swiss
never relax

>>103195254
Blink engine browser?

>>103194371
I host my own mail server and deal with all the bs that keeps you out of the spam folder is a pain in the ass. I'm the only one using it and somehow i need need to fix it all the time,

>>103195038
The dust hasn't settled at all yet

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I've got an idea: Let's tell Brian Lunduke about this.

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>>103195289
If your current software sucks and doesn't work as expected, switch to another one.
>4chan error message when clicking captcha:
>"You have to wait a while before doing this again"
Do what again? Post a reply on this imageboard? How about we switch. Instead of me that has to wait for posting, you, 4chan, has to wait for my posts.

Maybe forever, even. A permaban for you, by me, 4chan.

wow incredible what a surprise, i'm impressed this thing has survived till now given how fucking slow it was i'm glad i quit using this crap.
I was lurking lainla transparency report the other day and somehow someone spoofed an email address from cock.li because vc forgot to add the DKIM sig on one of the domains, this alone can tell anyone how dogshit this service is
I'd rather self host email on some dirt cheap vps, its not actually that hard if you use docker

>>103195439
DKIM & SPF suck donkey dick, niggerfaggot.

>>103189849
Yes that is why your users PGP encrypt everything. Thunderbird makes it easy enough for a seven year old to use PGP.

>>103194699
There's another bridge that I haven't used but saw some time ago: https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide It's still a bit clunky to run a separate piece of software for this, I'd rather see this integrated into e.g. Thunderbird, like they're doing it now with Exchange protocols, or have it as a protocol add-on in TB.
I feel like tech went wrong somewhere. There should've been small inboxes for free, occasional use (which would also teach people to delete mails they don't need), with bigger storage space as paid option if you do need to store more mails. Meanwhile we've got Google etc. just giving big mailboxes for free as in beer, so everyone now expects you to match the offer of Google. Ability to use custom client, whether by IMAP translation layer or by protocol support extension for popular clients shouldn't be a paid feature, but I guess that's where we are.
Anyway, thanks for reminding me to look into proper E2EE for my mail alerts from servers, could be fun to have some mails encrypted, even if nobody else who mails me will do it.

>>103195439
So what are you using then, enlighten us
>inb4 proton or some shit

>>103195591
no i dont use tuta nor any of that normieslop no

>>103195602
You didn't answer the question

>>103195607
why would i answer this question

>>103195615
Because you're bragging about having "quit using this crap"
So enlighten us as to what did you find that's so much better and not crap

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>>103195623
i never really used it to begin with i only used it a couple of times to send emails to some people online

>>103195635
Aaaand so what is it that you use then that's so much better

>>103195638
blud thinks im going to tell him

>>103195645
I'm not, you're the one that keeps shoving around how you're so much better and so above using cockli
So step up

>>103195653
im just saying cock.li sucks thats it

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>>103193689
>>tim cock rats out the stupid catalonian retard
tfw forgot pw for timcook@getbackinthe.kitchen

>>103195671
So what you use isn't any better then. So you just have sour grapes about cockli, got it

>>103195699
the service is actually stable... probably unfamiliar with the term huh

>>103195708
You're too ashamed to even mention it
It's probably normalshit too and you're just shitposting and can't admit it now

>>103195534
Inbox size is, like, the least of anyone's concerns I feel like, especially nowadays. The majorty of email is text and something like 100MB is probably enough to store normal text communication, if not for life, at least for years - at least for personal mail.
Maybe attachments will drive this up but conversely I feel like most people accept that email attachments are limited, you can't send files that are too big and even sending a few pictures often slows things down. Meanwhile storage has genuinely gotten so much cheaper over time. I just recently bought a 16TB HDD, which would be enough to supply ~14k-15k users with a gigantic 1GB mailbox, and it cost me $200; for $2000 you can store mailboxes for six digits of users.
And you can always tell people to delete big files they receive or set a lower limit - the majority of people, again, don't expect to use email like a filesharing site. With 100MB and $2000 of storage you're good for a million users. (Minus if you want to reserve some of that for backups, of course. But the vast majority of users probably won't even use half their quota.)

I'm pretty sure at 6-7 digit userbases, the traffic and processing costs, and the effort to run a reliable service, would far, far outweigh the storage investment. I'd be very surprised if mailbox size was the limiting factor.

>>103195718
its not normalslop but im just yeah im just trying to piss you off now

>>103195728
Sure it isn't

>>103195534
hydroxide was my plan, but Drew's fag friend that maintains it has been neglecting it and imap support is still clunky at best
Forgot how shit proton in general was though
Just logged in for the first time in years after this fiasco
had an entire inbox full of proton advertisements and kept getting undismissable popups about switching to a paid plan
Considering just giving in and just using gmail as a backend to anonaddy (it already pgp encrypts everything), I only ever get megacorpo slop and normalfag correspondence in my inbox anyway
everyone worth their salt is on Signal or a selfhosted Matrix by now and use protocols that aren't fundamentally pozzed like email/sms

>>103195739
riseup

>>103195752
Email is nice as a notification list. I have some small hobby projects that email people about stuff.
It's also unironically still one of the best ways to talk to people on 4chan. Other shit like signal and matrix has awful multi-account support. I haven't tried signal in ages but didn't it require a phone number? Matrix doesn't at least (depending on your homeserver) but all the clients are absolute dogshit and have horrible UX for switching between accounts.

Meanwhile you can (well, could) create a new cock email in <1 minute and have a brand new completely anonymous persistent identity for contacting and being contacted by anons.

>>103195757
>riseup
>commy email
are you a communist sir

>>103195757
1. communist
2. invite only
thanks, but I'll stay with pissmail.com and their tasteful domains such as @hatesje.ws, @genocide.fun, @child.pizza, or @incel.email

>>103195891
You better pay for them if you talk so big.

>>103195891
>>>/b/927415896

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>>103195326
Done.

>>103195708
I can't log in and all my mail clients can't either

>>103192485
I was gonna trade it for a real email service like riseup or some shit

>>103195534
>hydroxide
does this actually work just as well as the official bridge? and will I get banned for "stealing" a paid feature?

>>103196492
>does this actually work just as well as the official bridge?
as someone who's used both, fuck no
>and will I get banned for "stealing" a paid feature?
never heard of anyone getting banned for using a 3rd party bridge

>>103196519
>fuck no
damn, I hate using these "encrypted" email services because no imap and the web UI is so slow because it's "decrypting" everything on the fly as you click around
as if anyone really believes they can't just store another copy of your emails as they come in or serve some malicious javascript one day
but proton does seem like it will stick around without getting shut down without warning like cock.
Are there any services that just let you pay $1/mo in crypto for an unencrypted mailbox and the guarantee of not rugpulling?

>>103196575
>Are there any services that just let you pay $1/mo in crypto for an unencrypted mailbox and the guarantee of not rugpulling?
at that point you might as well just look for a VPS and selfhost your mailserver
a private mail SaaS that cheap is gonna be banned from all major providers anyway

>>103196575
>Are there any services that just let you pay $1/mo in crypto for an unencrypted mailbox and the guarantee of not rugpulling?
Cock.li

>>103196682
vps selfhost requires a time investment and dealing with getting spam filtered, and the hardware admin can still read all your emails
>>103196866
no, cock is a free service, I want a paid one so they are legally obligated to provide it

>>103196990
>and the hardware admin can still read all your emails
Only the metadata, not the PGP encrypted body which Thunderbird makes it easy enough for a seven year old.

>>103197003
I almost exclusively use email for receiving 2fa login codes from services and talking with customer support departments, PGP is useless

>>103196990
>>103197003
im not very knowledgeable on the matter, so forgive me if this sounds stupid but wouldn't it be possible to host your email on a vps but have the actual emails be stored on your home server via something like NFS? that way even if a vps admin images your stuff they'd only get the ip of your NFS

>>103186521
Why not just make a forum without pictures? Text only

>>103197022
No idea why you replied then. Could use any of the email load testing web UI's for that like mailpit.

>>103197088
You can use HAProxy for this. It supports SMTP and you could have the mail server at your house with the front end on a VM or physical server.

>>103197107
>You can use HAProxy for this. It supports SMTP and you could have the mail server at your house with the front end on a VM or physical server.
A much better way is tunneling the traffic encrypted onto the VPS with a VPN and passing all arbitrary TCP traffic on port 25 to your home server
A lot of ISPs block SMTP/IMAP/POP3/etc on residential plans so you can't just host a mailserver on your local network and expose it to the internet

>>103197298
You can terminate HAProxy on any port. Most just do port blocking, not deep inspection. Postfix can listen on any port for anything.

>>103196990
>vps selfhost requires a time investment and dealing with getting spam filtered, and the hardware admin can still read all your emails
services like cock.li are blocked from every provider anyway, that's why I said there'd be no difference.
If you literally do _nothing_ at all to unblock yourself, you'd just be in the exact same boat as all these providers you're looking for.

The hardware admin aspect is also completely unavoidable, and arguably worse on dedicated mail services as the admin is directly responsible for managing every single person's emails in a centralized manner (so logging is trivial) whereas a VPS could be running literally anything and is harder for the provider to siphon data from en-masse

>>103197326
In that case yeah then a simpler solution would work, though there'd probably leaner daemons for accomplishing the task of reverse-proxying SMTP
HAProxy is fairly heavy and adds a lot of technical overhead if you don't need its namesake of providing HA between multiple instances of a service

>>103197341
>services like cock.li are blocked from every provider anyway
Works for me. Only blocked on Github

>>103197396
I meant sending to people's inboxes
I use a custom domain and never had issues signing up for services (well, except this fucking website's email verification, thanks gookmoot)
But getting unblocked from the gmail/hotmail/microsoft/icloud email providers is utter hell for _legitimate_ mail servers
let alone providers like cock.li with userbases of sperg channers that flood goatse into the inboxes of tech-illiterate boomers

>>103197022
what's the point of having a private email provider then? if you're on a situation where LE would want to read your emails you're sure as hell they would go after the services first

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>>103185017
>Privacy made in Germany
no thanks

>>103197464
depends on what you mean by private, but I mostly want a secondary provider that is reliable, won't ban me, and doesn't need to be associated with my name (i.e. putting credit card details in)

>>103195439
>I was lurking lainla transparency report the other day
I just spent a good half an hour reading through those, and holy crap is that "7666" guy super fucking based.

I kek'd multiple times over his snarky responses.
Totally get him though, must be tiresome to deal with low iq monkeys constantly writing mails with no basis what so ever.

>On Saturday, July 6th, 2024 at 2:43 AM, Dawson Hoovler <bigfeetnumbers@gmail.com> wrote:
>Why even have an abuse email if you're going to be so useless

>I handle hundreds of legitimate abuse reports a month regarding CSAM or ISIS propaganda or DMCA takedowns. You know, actually illegal things. Your spat with whoever doxxed you has no basis in law however. I can see why someone might be motivated to do such a thing though.

>This is the end of our conversation.

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I don't get why schizo retards use these autistic mail domains when chances are your mail is just going to get dropped because they're not trusted domains

>>103197750
lmao link?

>>103197757
>use gmail goy

>>103197386
Heavy? HAProxy is one of the smallest daemons one could run. Maybe 12-20MB ram, can handle 30,000 connections without breaking a sweat. Can't be broken by attackers.

>>103197946
https://infrablog.lain.la/transparency
There are literally hours of entertainment between this and VC's takedown requests (which can still be found on the wayback machine).

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Come home, white man.
>nooooooooo muh honeypot
Every single internet service under the sun glows, including and especially cock.li. Nobody who bitches about this ever names the service they actually use.
Proton is a solid ecosystem to replace Google that isn't run by a giant US ad company.
The only reason to actually care about feds is because you're Edward Snowden or a pedophile. That's not a defense of mass surveillance but just a reality. They don't care that you're pirating shit, or calling someone a nigger, or looking at loli shit. They care about (in order of decreasing importance) any threats to themselves (leaks), any threats to their citizens (terrorists) and NGO pedophiles that they don't have blackmail on.

>>103198271
>no imap
>webmail client sucks ass
fuck off nigger

>>103198271
>no IMAP
No

If there's no IMAP it's not a mail server. It's just a relay. Web mail is for phonies. Anything on the phone is public as a postcard.

>>103198299
Maybe my taste is just shit, but I unironically find Proton to have the best and most beautiful interface of any webclient, including gmail which you would think would be the golden standard.
Their app is pretty shit though, compared to something like Thunderbird, but it gets the job done.

Before their "relaunch" as Proton.me, everything looked super amateur and like a startup, but after they hired some designers it really feels like a polished product.
Try to look at the different designs in Proton Pass and Bitwarden add-ons. There's no competition at all.

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>>103198271
can someone explain the insistence of IMAP apart from being able to use thunderbird and reluctance of using proton? doesn't proton give you privacy and isn't that really enough? and doesn't proton have IMAP with bridge so you can actually use thunderbird? I genuinely don't understand the argument here. yes you have to pay but you get stability which is arguably just as important as privacy otherwise shit like this happens. yes email wasn't supposed to be owned like this by a few corporations, this is not the future we wanted. but in the context of what's most sensible today, I don't understand why one would treat a non-profit company like Proton as the devil. it seems like a sensible middleground.

>>103198447
IMAP you use your own encryption, can move files and folders around remotely and locally. Can back up your data so that it is in fact YOUR data. I would never use a mail provider that does not support IMAPs as it is not a mail provider.

>>103198461
what provider do you recommend then

>>103198299
>>103198360
>>103198371
>>103198447
Is IMAP + PGP really a BETTER solution than something like Mail Bridge? Just seems like a different solution to the same problem, except in Proton's case they're FORCING you to encrypt on your end before sending so they CAN'T access it.
They're OpenPGP compliant and they let you use your own existing PGP keys, so the only thing that's different is the transfer protocol between the bridge and their servers that's forcing you to involve one of their open source solutions (which all force you to encrypt the payload/attachments on your device). You can still easily use the bridge to back up all of your shit locally -- in fact afaik the gluon cache folder in the bridge's settings just contains all of your PGP-encrypted emails.
I use ProtonMail with Thunderbird without issue via the bridge.
https://proton.me/support/why-you-need-bridge
https://proton.me/blog/bridge-security-model
https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge
>>103198381
I also like the webmail client and the android apps, though the desktop client is just more webwrapper shit which is disappointing, otherwise I would've used it instead of Thunderbird + bridge.

>>103194829
This

>>103198659
proton doesn't force you to encrypt anything. unless you use bridge + pgp, proton can still see the plaintext body of your message when they send it on your behalf. The bridge is just to decrypt your messages they stored for you using your encryption key that you have to trust they didn't look at.
and the bridge requires you to pay them, which is already bad enough, but also they only accept a credit card or traceable btc with all the transaction fees that comes with.

>>103195352
Beautiful

>>103198659
I don't want to pay for IMAP and I don't want to have their special snowflake app on my phone which by the way requires Google Play Services

>>103198381
goymail looked better in the past

>>103198447
imap sucks. it leaves all your mails on the server instead of getting them out. therefore you have to trust the server because all your data is always there

>>103198777
how is this an issue with privacy?

anonymity yes, but theres a reason why anonymous email providers dont exist.

>>103187118
>Pissmail.com seems like the best alternative atm.
Not bad. Thanks for the link.

>cock.li's DNS address could not be found. Diagnosing the problem.
o-okay

>>103199202

dig +nocookie @1.1.1.1 -t mx cock.li
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL
; EDE: 22 (No Reachable Authority): (at delegation cock.li.)

all gone

>>103199104
>anonymity yes, but theres a reason why anonymous email providers dont exist.
spam spam spam spam, drugs, hitmen, cp, scams, spam spam spam spam.

>>103199227
what the fuck

all of their dns records are now gone, including webmail and MX (i.e. inbound mail). hasn't fully propagated yet

$ nslookup cock.li common.dot.dns.yandex.net
;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 77.88.8.8, trying next server
Server:         common.dot.dns.yandex.net
Address:        77.88.8.1#53

** server can't find cock.li: SERVFAIL

>>103199279
Some remnants of it out there. Russia has a different IP, Putin must have blocked it.

https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/cock.li

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hmmmmmmmmm

meme services will attract hooligans that push the limits.

>>103199202
its HAPPPPEENNNNING

their .onion is still up

>>103199359
PEEEENING? Matches the name.

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It's over

>>103199365
Maybe glowies couldn't get VC's cock so they went after the registrar/registry instead? Can anyone still ping the last known good address to confirm the box(es) is(are) still up and running?

>>103199392
cock.li = 193.239.85.202
hosted by M247 Europe in Bucharest, RO

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>>103199392
I'm getting nothing. I host my own DNS server so DNS blocks are a non-issue for me.

still responding to pings

>>103199402
redirecting to ovo. kendrick gotta kill drake at this point

their pub.tracker.aaathats3as seems to still be up

>>103185136
>The whole point of a canary is that it goes down during a government takeover and comes back up with no good explanation
>The canary goes down and comes back up with no good explanation
>"HURR was he just being a retard?"

me waiting like a boss™ for cock.li to come back

>>103187686
>your residential IP
SMTP has pretty much always required a business connection. It's imminently self hostable on that.

>>103190141
>Not enough supporting platforms.
Name *one* popular platform without XMPP support.
I'm pretty sure fucking Nintendo DS homebrew even had an XMPP client.

It just doesn't have all the flashy marketing to make women and gays use it.

>>103187118
It's so much faster than cock.li ever was, but it has the same familiar UI. Thank you.

>>103199870
>XMPP
Why didn't it ever take off, though?

So what the fuck, there are literally no IMAP compatible free email providers left except glowgle etc.?

>>103199948
there's one ITT

>>103199968
Something a little more trustworthy than "pissmail" would be nice after this fiasco.

>>103199993
>mail with cocks more trustworthy than pissmail
?

>>103200021
It at least had some not completely retarded domains like airmail.cc and firemail.cc

>>103199948
You can have an account on my private mail server if you want

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>>103193762
Proton are obvious Jews. This means that their claims of security might hold up against outsider threats, but it also means that they will roll over and wet themselves whenever any fed asks for your data, whether or not they have legal grounds to do so. It is the best free normie service available but you'd be retarded to use it for anything illegal.

>>103200037
>dmc.chat
>retarded

>>103199929
>It just doesn't have all the flashy marketing to make women and gays use it.

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>>103198271
>The only reason to actually care about feds is because you're Edward Snowden or a pedophile. That's not a defense of mass surveillance but just a reality.

why couldn't i just start my own service doe
>BRUH ITLL BE ON SPAM LISTS--
who cars, check your spam / use filters to move the mail

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>>103200054
t.

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>>103200175
>posting as an example one of the biggest pedos in the universe, who repeatedly escaped justice thanks to the feds, while they kick down the door of Polymarket guy because too many people he didn't know bet on Trump winning

Nah, who am I kidding with that conspiracy theory of mine. Your post is probably just Jewish bragging at all the things Jews get away with.

>>103199104
>how is this an issue with privacy?
if you put a credit card with your real name into a service that receives plaintext email for you and can read it, that's an issue with privacy

>>103200222
You haven't called me a tranny yet, I almost have bingo.
btw that original statement continues to be 100% correct and you're trying too hard to fit in. If you thought you had a genuine reason to hide from the goobermint you wouldn't be posting here to begin with.
>no verification required

>>103197757
If someone's email provider drops my email I tell them to get a better provider. Email is supposed to be open and I'm not interested in participating in gmail's walled garden or whatever

Btw this may sound autistic but people can be surprisingly understanding of this if they actually have some business with you, it's surprisingly not that difficult to guilt people into thinking "you're sending legitimate mail from a small domain, somehow my gmail is blocking it entirely, it's my fault sorry! I'll try to sort it out, my bad for the inconvenience" assuming they're actually interested in talking to you for some reason

>>103192496
jew

>>103200522
not the one that you've been talking to but i don't want to specifically hide from the government. i want to hide from other people.
no i'm not a retard that wants to spam "nigger" on social media. i just want to not feel at risk of being doxxed. that is all.

also i think people should be able to get drugs online.

>>103198271
As has been said a dozen times in this thread and the last
>no (reasonable) IMAP
>deletes inactive accounts
DOA

>>103198381
>>103198447
It's very simple: I'm not keeping a special tab open in my browser for my email. I have a normal mail client already running in the background, "a tab in the browser" is a terrible UX for something which should be a background service.
On the phone at least it's app vs. app but still I see zero reason why I should have two separate apps for email for some reason, just because one provide is being a retarded bitch baby who can't abide by global standards.

>>103198659
PGP is useless because nobody uses it on the receiving side. And by the way, this also means that proton's encryption is ALSO useless.
>hurr here's why we need the bridge
Pretty much every single email I will EVER send or receive will be accessible, both to proton and to everyone else, in plaintext. Them refusing to provide my mail over IMAP in plaintext is hilarious security theatre.

>>103199820
The whole point of a canary is that it DOESN'T come back up, though

>>103200589
>original canary goes down
>different canary with suspiciously specific changes comes up
>"lol guys but it came back up"

you do know that a gag order from law enforcement prevents you from directly removing the canary, right?

you do know that taking it down "accidentally" and getting another one back up later enables plausible deniability, right?

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Protonmail could theoretically support JMAP while keeping their e2ee, yet they chose not to

>>103200666
Yes, but then explicitly saying "we are not under duress from any government or organisation" is what confuses me. Either a) they somehow got a court order (within a few days) requiring the "accidental" replacement canary to include explicit lies to trick people into being less suspicious, or b) they realy weren't under duress (at that time) and Vince is just a retard with his wording.

Not only does occam's razor suggest b, but I'd consider putting up a fake and explicitly fraudulent canary to be very much a crime against one's users and VC has been adamant that he will shut down cockli lavabit-style if forced to do weird shit like this. As it seems might have literally happened now, by the way. So I don't buy that he would've gotten compelled to lie in his canary.

Time to migrate the last of the services using my old cock.li email to my personal email. I migrated half and then got lazy. This was the kick in the ass I needed to finish cleaning up I guess.

>>103186521
Yo, that screenshot is *that* poster, isn't he? The distro guy.

>>103185333
I dearly hope the COCK survives this one.

>>103185571
>Cruyff
absolutely fucking patrician

>>103197454
>But getting unblocked from the gmail/hotmail/microsoft/icloud email providers is utter hell for _legitimate_ mail servers
Still fake news. If you send legit mail, you have no problem. Stop spamming, it is that simple, scumbag.
>>103196990
>no, cock is a free service, I want a paid one so they are legally obligated to provide it
It's a free service because other people are donating for you. It is not really free, others pay it for you, just like e.g. Linux.

>>103198271
>They don't care that you're pirating shit
What a load of spineless shit. Pirates are behind bars en masse, kid.

Supposedly DNS is an upstream issue (or that's what *THEY* want you to think)
>dns is down due to an upstream routing issue, it will likely resolve on its own~
>more dns servers will be added soon
https://shitposter.world/notice/Ao5clDAx4KrKNNkKP2

>>103198381
>which you would think would be the golden standard
Who would think that? It's an ad company, retard. Ads aren't beautiful, ads are dirt that needs to be removed. You're brainwashed, niggerfaggot.

My @tfwno.gf email no longer can send/receive email. Looks like the email servers were finally taken offline (they were still up w/ the main site being down)

So long and thanks for all the fish Vincent.

>>103201426
an (((upstream routing issue)))

>>103201522
he switched dns conf (>>103201426). It can appear offline for up to 24 hours due to caching.

So the second weird canary is now gone as well, huh?

>>103201424
You pirating over email numbnuts?

>>103201553
Way too many fuckups in 3 days to be trustworthy despite if service gets restored. Canary is already pretty flimsy legally speaking so changing it, even if by accident, makes it so the canary cannot be trusted even if the original is restored. For all anyone knows that was a 3-letter fuckup. Even if service comes up tomorrow I'm going to finish migrating everything away.

>>103201522
Post was edited, but you can see the changes by clicking the ellipsis at the bottom of the post as choosing status history. The only change was adding the line about more DNS servers.

>>103201582
Oops, meant for >>103201426

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>>103201568
I would if I could. Actually a decent idea, anon. >Enter your email address and we'll email you the mp3 file
It even would work encrypted:
>here's your custom pw for decrypting the attachment

>>103201426
His DNS would be working if he bothered to list the one working DNS server in the glue records.

>>103201704
>a decent idea
that's ridiculous. nearly every single currently used method of pirating is better. using email for that is pointless and unnecessarily convoluted for zero benefit.

>>103184924
Unironically just use gmail

>>103202090
>Unironically
Just so you know, there's no such word.
Stop saying it. It's childish

>>103202104
Wow you're really mature

Its over. They got the cock. All your secrets are being given up. 10 years of victory ended in a single week.

Did anyone use cock.li for anything they cared about? I used it for a bunch of shit on krautchan back when it was unpolitical. Lost my login years ago though.

>>103202643
I used it for death threats to politicians

>implying the glowies dont have a protocol for dealing with canaries
chat.. are you regarded?

>>103200573
>PGP is useless because nobody uses it on the receiving side.
The people that matter will be using it. Thunderbird makes it easy enough for a seven year old to use it. I bet a five year old could use it, too. Maybe even half of the phonies here could figure it out.

>>103200522
The only companies that have ever blocked my self hosted servers were wireless providers. They claim self hosted mail servers are fraud. Their loss.

>>103200666
Never put any faith in canaries. Too many ways to game that system using force and fear. People act tough until they are locked away and real adults talk scary to them.

>>103203179
video chat you mean? gotta see their face and then figure out if you are talking to AI. secret phrases and all.

>>103203522
A 5 yo can't even read

>>103203662
anon, i'm sorry that you have to find it out this way... but apparently you were developmentally stunted as a kid.

>>103189514
me

>>103201704
kek these guys went top in iceland as a protest party after the crash there.. dunno today I don't follow stupid icelandic politic stjorn me here and stjorn me there

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>>103203748
Just don't tell them about Santa Claus. Not here.

>>103203662
>he didn't host his own email as a 5 year old

>>103203821
It's OK if mommy or daddy run the server. The five year old can be the postmaster.

>>103195248
>A couple of people in here have reported they will suspend your account, if you start receiving certain mails that does not align with their ideologies.
really? i send and receive chuddy emails all the time and nothing has happened

>>103203832
yes another reason to not use a meme mail server. just host your own and make your own rules for you to follow.

why do all these redditors want imap? its fucking shit. all your mail stays on the server and if anything is removed from the server it gets nuked from your client too. its just inferior in every way to good old pop and smtp

>>103204285
That's not how IMAP works. With Thunderbird your mail stays on the server unless you want it removed. Local backups mean you can back it up however you want. On the server means the admin and glowies read it. Webmail servers are just crippled forums. Install phpBB if you want a forum.

>>103201308
zazed Japanese rock music enjoyer

>>103204285
>just use POP3 bro
>what do you mean you have more than 1 device?

Comments in this thread have verified cock.li was a glowie trap. They want you to leave all your mail on their server.

>>103204466
idk for me imap was always in sync. you can't delete stuff from the server without it disappearing from the local client too. its like a glorified webmail client at that point. i don't want to store all my mail in a remote server so i don't use that

>>103204539
yeah security and convenience tend to come separately. don't see a lot of reasons to check your personal mail in random places tho

https://shitposter.world/notice/Ao6YnVf96HYvdJfZg0

BROS????????

>>103204741
so they are working on it, the data is encrypted, and it is a foreign country not the NSA
everything is fine

>>103204741
What does it mean

>According to the (currently only) NS host:

>"We would like to inform you that the UPS located in our data center has malfunctioned. Unfortunately, the repair process will take longer than usual, as the necessary parts for resolving the issue are currently unavailable"

>The process has been started to quickly add more nameservers, unfortunately a number of hosting companies housing our DNS have disappeared recently due to more-suspicious-than-usual circumstances.

>We recently had to fly someone to another country and hire a private investigator to track down a disappeared host who refused to allow us any access to our disks while he had them plugged into his computers to try to crack into them.

>So, while it may just look like the site has been down all day, please spread the word that we're working on a bit more than just an NS record.

>>103204741
why vc pfp ai generated

>>103204873
it's because he's going full schizo cryptobro

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>>103204830
quite the tall tale.

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