tanchjim bnuy status?

Daily reminder that the end game pos is the one you already own.

>>103186307
it's already available in gina
its release should be really soonTM

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Visting The Hangout this weekend, praying my autism meds work and I don't call Crin a fatfuck to his face

>>103186364
remember DO NOT say "zhangout"

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USound target is so much better than Harman. I'm never buying a Harman target IEM again.

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>>103186364
please ask him to update his logo to the more accurate iemg's version

>>103186417
based! the curve is basically EDC Pro

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>>103185832
>They can't play as high
With smart workarounds like what Aful did for MagicOne, or just placing the driver closer, highs shouldn't be an issue.
>Lows
True, if you're a basshead, all-BAs just aren't for you. That being said, I've never tried any Flipear boutiques or Symphonium memes, but my Mach 70s are meant to be on the bassier side which they just aren't, specifically the sub-bass. The mid-bass response is to my liking.
>As loud
Aren't BAs more efficient? They need less power to get as loud as a DD. Not that this metric even matters since we're all talking about wired iems, not tws.

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>>103186452
I noticed that, pretty impressive. I have the BL05s and its bass matches the target pretty closely too and it sounds great.

>>103186509
>my Mach 70s
Why did you buy that pos...

>>103186364
what the FUCK are you doing in s*ngap*re

>>103186550
P-pls no bully...
I got it for like half the price and it's so comfy too.

>>103186364
just tell him you are a big fan

>>103186686
Big fan of a big guy

>>103186413
that's actually a good name for his store

>>103186761
he would have named his shop such if he was based

>>103186417
>that 1.5K response
Holy shit bros new tranny tuck just dropped

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Rate my new favorite FR target, /iemg/. I call it the Supershartman.

>>103186820
hd820 lookin ass

>>103186820
nice asscrack

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>>103186820
That's nothing, check out my over ear target.

https://youtu.be/uVWJStjnaQo
this mexican dude is right! iems are the best! even Mr. sleepy agrees in the comments!

do you guys also collect knives, flashlights, pens, and keyboards? guns?

>>103187041
I collect foxes and Rubik's cubes.

>>103187050
you got a fox cube?

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>>103186590
I want to see the goat in-person

>>103187041
y-yes...

>>103187041
>single guy w/ no gf hobbies

>>103186781
Are you looking at Diffusefield or what? I don't see what you're trying to say.

>>103187041
Keyboards

>>103187041
I like pens.

>>103187159
Guys with gf's have no hobbies, they don't have any extra money

>>103187168
Shut up bitch

>>103187041
we dont even collect iems

>>103187191
Lifehack: rape women you find in public, it's literally free. No seriously, people just leave them lying around it's insane.

I haven't been here for some months, I remember there being cables with built in DSP. Are there any dongles or usb devices with a 5~10 band PEQ to a 3.5 out I could buy from aliexpress for say $20?
Doesn't need transparent audio or stuff like DSP playback, just needs to do EQ without too much hiss on some cheap earbuds or headphones.

>>103187235
this, we always remember to use EQ

>>103187041
not yet because I'm still essentially jobless
but if everything works out for me next year I will become a public servant and finally have money to begin my pos collection
iems, knives, keyboards and guns are mandatory

>>103187590
bro just invest in tanchcoin

>>103187590
Even if you're financially set, I just don't see the point in having a large collection. Rotating through multiple sets daily sounds incredibly exhausting.

>>103187692
anime is included, yes
>>103187748
yeah 'collection' might be exaggerating, I will just get some of the fancier multi drivers and gadgets to experience myself if they're really worth the investment
but I won't really make an actual hobby out of it

>>103187786
>to experience myself
You could just go to your local audio shop, and spent hours there trying and infecting fancy stuff

>>103187786
you will almost certainly fall into the trap of trying things out for yourself and attributing the perceived differences to driver type or some mystical aspects rather than simple FR, but i wish you luck

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>>103187590
>going from being a master of his own life to being a servant

>>103188014
you can't buy kilopos as a NEET bro

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>>103187041
Just CDs ...I used to collect plushies too but I found my Endgame last year.

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is there a way to know if this thing is going to be garbage?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJBTCT8W

>>103188124
it is most likely garbage, saved you the trouble. or order it and return, it's amazon

>>103188124
Don't buy anything you haven't seen the measurements for. It's the only way.

>>103188124
>absolutely ZERO mention of what dac chip is being employed
>random stock images thrown on the description section
yea I wonder in which direction these flags are pointing at

>>103188189
>>103188204
>>103188206
i got it for free, it's not a huge deal but it has a little window to show off what chips it has, so i was trying to figure out if there was something i could do myself to verify what it may be using. i got no clue but i figured for free i'd take a stab at it.

>>103188043
do you like being scammed that much?

>>103188216
I wouldn't accept it for free if I were you, but you do you I guess

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Lets fucking go

>>103188242
>I wouldn't accept it for free
explain why

>>103188216
try to take a zoomed in / macro lens photo if they even left the text of what chip it is on. it's likely cx31993.
if you have it, plus a pos in and make a determination, pretty simple.

>>103188257
nice enjoy your mangirth pos

>>103188257
post first impressions NOW

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>>103188258
>he doesn't know about the cancer causing chinesium

>>103188257
Only the manliest girth.

>>103188257
Omg my Mangirth is so hard rn I'm happy for you.

>>103188313
isn't that what this thread is about? just audio specific cancer causing chinesium?

>>103188297
is there a program or anything i can use to identify the chip it may be using by plugging it into a usb port on my pc? i know when i plug my google adapter in i can at least see the sampling rates in control panel, but beyond that, is there a way to identify a chip via a program?

>>103188306
Comfort: Great fit, feels like a blessing 2 but slightly smaller. Not sure about long term comfort yet but its good so far.
Build: Metal shell like the other anon said, feels like a tank. Kilobuck build quality.
Cable: Good quality, not too thick, 2 strands with modular termination.
Sound: Great so far, ears are not getting assaulted by upper treble spikes which immediately puts it in the top 5% of iems. Nothing really stands out, upper mids/lower treble sound just slightly off. Lower mids maybe a bit too forward too but we'll see how it shakes out once I start EQing and ABing and tip rolling.

>>103188421
this gen really does shine when it comes to consoomers posting their impressions and reviews
shame that of the 18 different anons here, 4 are shitposters, and 12 are poorfags.

>>103188394
i'm quite sure there should be a way on pc, but idk. i know an app TTGK Station on Android can read out some hardware details

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Sean Olive (they/them) can't talk about audio without mentioning wine and his woke agenda, is it over science bros???

>>103186452
Not really Tyvan the EDC Pro still has a bit too much bass and definitely high on pinna gain and presence up to 6khz

>>103186820
Shartur approved.

>>103188487
see >>103186512
it's as good as passive goes, if u wanna match it 1:1 and please ur pedantic ass 2-3 EQ filters will be enuff

>>103188440
everything leads to a dead end unfortunately, but that's okay too. thankfully that little window is on there, and i imagine they put it there so they could show off whatever it is they're using. if it's at least a cx31993 i'd be happy with it.

>>103188514
No dude even with a single dynamic you can scoop the mids less by tucking that pinna gain and presence a smidge more, while subduing the bass a tad as well.
KZ is getting close-ish though like within a few dbs which is not bad

>>103187041
yes, are you a fed? just copped a demko ad20.5

>>103188477
I don't understand how someone this old still falls for DNC gaslighting. Did his prefrontal lobe just forget to mature or what?

>>103188706
5khz EEEEEE coupled with no lower mids timbre was so bad it gave him brain damage.

>$100
>Music
>Neutral
>Carbo Tenore - like these a lot, have held up well over the years. Oppo Enco Air 3 - like these a lot as well, decently flat sound for the cost and good features.
Looking for a wireless IEM to complement my Oppos. I like the openness for around the house, but I'd like a closed pair for working.
Main priority is as neutral as possible, multipoint would be nice but isn't a deal breaker.

Best IEM for Linkin Park's new album From Zero?

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Hifigo sent this in a box tighter than a moondrop loli. There's barely enough room for the cardboard flaps. Arrived in exactly 1 week though.

>>103184431
>>103184479
cirrus logic claims that the transitions in class H are inaudible. none of the users of FiiO dongles have noticed anything, even with KA5 which allows switching between class AB and class H so they can try listening with both. there is one russian autist who complains about clicks (i don't remember which specific dongle) but they're happening randomly so they seem to be related to EMI/RFI interference or something and not the power state because there should be at least a 10 second pause after a transition according to cirrus logic's data sheet.

>>103189161
ooooh the pos are rollin' in

>>103188841
there's a bunch of twshit. if you have samsung/applel, get their buds. if not, moondrop moca, qcy melobuds, various soundpeats

>>103187375
tanchjim one dsp, simgot ew300 dsp are the better implemented cables (avoid any moondrop dsp cables).
fiio ka11 / ja11 dongles.
iirc they're all 5-band

>>103189582
wait is the ew300 dsp configurable or not? i haven't seen any mentions of it

>>103189542
>there's a bunch of twshit
That's the thing, there's so many options out there and none of them seem to particularly standout.
I don't have an iPhone or Samsung so no incentive to get those.

>>103189610
>ew300 dsp configurable or not?
double checking, seems not. i could have sworn they had marketing material advertising "app coming soon(tm)" but maybe they scrapped it

>>103189582
ka11 ain't dsp

>>103189700
just go with the hype and get the melobuds pro then, and just eq it to your target of preference
if the trend keeps going qcy is probably going to blow away the $100 competition too, where apple/samsung buds lives, but no news on anything new so far

>>103190009
The non pro Melobuds or the Pro? Seems like non are a bit flatter.
Probably gonna come down to those or the Moondrop Moca.

>>103188257
>>103188421
Happy for you but metal shell is oof.
Captcha XXJXX

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>>103190136
definitely the pro version, it is a considerable step up over the non-pro
don't really know about the moca, but since it is a moondrop then you can at least expect good sound, which is their focus
at least scarbir rates its sound better than the melobuds pro, though he only rated moca a disappointed overall 2 stars, so only consider moca if the sound is all you care about I guess

>>103190232
Scarbir's high praise of the flat sound of the Moca is what pointed me to it. It seems his issues are that it sounds different with iPhone (not a problem for me), and that the mic on his unit didn't work. That seems like an isolated problem as I haven't seen it in other reviews.
Does the QCY app handle EQ well? Seems like it could get to be fairly neutral with some adjusting.
I prefer to use built in EQ when possible with wireless stuff so it's not system dependent.

>>103190266
I prefer wavelet, but that's only because I'm too used to it already
the app's got a surprisingly good amount of customization though

How is Awful, Tanchjim, and Letshuoer (for some reason) able to shit on other chink POS manufacturers in terms of QC and build quality so consistently?

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>>103188477
>they/them
where did you find his pronouns?
anyway, max kek.

>>103190512
One of the biggest factors is their release life cycle, and how often (in this case little) they release different products. This is important in terms of QC for companies of their size for obvious reasons, but they also reuse some aspects of their old products. For example, A(w)ful uses the same general IEM shell shape, scaling it up or down depending on dimension constraints. Tanchjim reuses the same nozzle/front volume design of from their Ola/Zero on the One, and the same shell design of their previous Oxygen/Hana on the Kara and Origin. Letshower reuses the same S12 shell over and over lol.
This ties in to the build quality as well, since they can slowly improve their manufacturing process and design choices through iteration. Furthermore, they use good materials suited for their pos: good filters that don't clog for metal pos, all resin/plastic shells, no mediocre paint implementation, etc.

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>>103190609
That's not even real.

>>103190512
by virtue of most of their pos being multi-driver with crossover components, Awful actually has pretty poor "QC" if we judge that as "how consistently does an IEM measure across rigs." you can pick samples of their iems and see +-5dB difference, and the point is proven by PW that simply pushing more volume alters how P-series graphs. also heard of a few scuffed P5 units over time as far as build, but it certainly sold quite well too, so to be expected and not extraordinary

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>>103190759
Every western companies do it in June.

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>>103186364
He'll probably like being called a fat fuck. That's probably the least unflattering thing we called him here kek

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new nicehck pos
b80 earbuds and nx8 iem

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Hello! I want to ask are the Moondrop Mocas any good? I just found out these came out, I've had my SpaceTravels since last Christmas and they still work and sound like they did when I got them. Their $38 but is there actually a difference, I know theres also the Ultrasonics but thats $58.

>>103190995
Oh and I intend to use these for Videos/Music/Podcasts, I listen to a lot of loud stuff, mainly Rock.

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>>103186364
>walks into The Hangout
>take your time to test all the IEMs all day long
>contemplate for a while after all the test
>"hmmm...i think CCA CRA mogs and obsoleted everything in this shop"
>refuse to elaborate further
>walks out

>>103191031
holy fuck welcome back cra(p)zo
YRHRT

>>103186781
>>103186820
>tuck

continuing this relevant poll:

https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWeVbWnA

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>>103191065
>implying i only listen to one style of tuning
heh

>>103190995
>>103191089
just discuss here, no need to crosspost. eartips for what? space travel or other iems? tws eartips tend to be shorter, and it is the case with space travel that ear tips that are too big will cause them to not fit in the case

>>103186364
Can you just try stuff there?
I just want to taste kilobucks and leave

>>103190803
>simply pushing more volume alters how P-series graphs
some amount of nonlinearity/harmonic distortion could be preferable though, even high end speakers have like 1.5-2% THD, IEMs are unnaturally dry which helps explain why anons have such a weird music taste

>>103191192
chuzo, he's not talking about nonlinear distortion, he's talking about wideband volume-dependent changes to FR

>>103191202
that's the only way you can have a nonlinear response, the energy goes to harmonic overtones

>>103191224
chuzo...

>>103191107
Space Travel =D

>>103191229
anon explained that DACs are fully linear in the higher volume range up to 0dBFS, i thought the droop in L7audiolab's measurements was because of a volume drop off but that's the reference value of the measuring eqipment, the DAC loudness is consistent because the distortion is negligible. it's the same with drivers or with compression in audio processing, a nonlinear response is tied to harmonic distortion

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if there's no distortion, the frequency response should stay the same at a higher volume. if it changes, it's like pic related.

>>103191230
so you want shorter eartips like spinfit omni, azla crystal* or max* "for TWS"-specific models

looking for a 2 pin cable for my moondrop starfields, any recommendations
id like something a little longer than normal as i have a deep desk, and i like flashy or pretty stuff (its why i got starfields)
no real concern on budget, not over the cost of the iems, but im not like, factoring in the idea that theyre $120 iems, id buy a triple digit pricetag cable if the reasoning is right

>>103191745
xinhs or ivipq store on aliexpress. pick a cable, message the seller with what length you want, they customize. there is a cool black & gold cable xinhs city hunter. collect coupons and it's under $30 for me

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I hate you EQ faggots with a seething fury.
I want something to be tuned properly, not relying on a digital correction that can't be carried to any other device.
>want to use headphone on PC
>want to use headphone with phone
>want to use headphone with console
>want to use headphone on a friend's device
EQ does not satisfy a use case where I want to use my nice headphones on more than one device
>inb4 get a bluetooth dongle that has EQ
Still won't work with older non-bluetooth devices, and now I have ONE MORE FUCKING THING TO CHARGE. No, not a real option.

>>103189162
>none of the users of FiiO dongles have noticed anything
The only reason this dogshit company still exists.

>>103191829
>I want something to be tuned properly,
Doesn't exist, unless you severely lower your standards.

>>103191829
I don't get your anger.
You hate to eq and just want to plug and play right?
Just go to audioshop/meetup. And try everything until you feel satisfied

>PC
EQ APO
>phone
Poweramp
>console
Don't be a consoletroon
>friend's device
You mean your gay lover?

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Help me make use of chynee baracka fridaru
>Budget no more than 100$, ideally the lowest pricepoint whereafter deminishing returns only are worth it for audiopeds
>intended use: ignoring womens voices, sleeping - wearing as earpro - music/podcasts - motorcycling
>frequency response preference and music, genuinely no clue, I'm an uncultured reformed wigroid crackasean burna inasun ahh snomonkeh mufucku maigne
>I like trap music from florida, louisiana, atlanta, houston, chicago, I like other types of music with a preference for the beat and vibe rather than the lyrics or anything gay like that, open to music recs too homos
>long-form yt "edutainment" shit, some comedy pods are still ok, sleep to noise bc it helps for me idk why
>Past gear: apple dongle dac (aux output is quiet asf and the dongle makes a huge diff on my pc) JDS Labs Atom+ amp (does the trick)
>DT990 pro 250ohm (nice but missing a lot of oomph, had to get the amp to make them loud enough, music is pleasant asf on them without too much ambient noise)
>CCA CRA's (recc'ed back in the day, blown away for the price I paid, a lil trebbly)
>Shure 215's (really nice fit and oe foams, nothing too wild about the sound, noise cancellation works surprisingly well even on motorcycle+wind+highway 100+db rides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDERfRP2GI0

>"why yes, i do enjoy listening to sine wave generators"

>>103192164
>listening to iems while riding a motorcycle

that can't be legal.

>>103191962
>Just go to audioshop/meetup
Tried that and now I always use EQ.

>>103189582
>>103189610
>>103189704
>>103189765
I'm not looking for a cable, so JA11 seems like my only choice then. Good thing it's not too expensive. Thanks anons!

There's a really good deal on Artti T10 if you enter the listing through the SuperDeals page from the front page. Combined with some codes should easily go below $50
Kinda sucks for me since I already bought it on 11.11 for like $7 more

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Holy fuck look at all the techs crammed inside
aliexpress.com/item/1005007703597584.html

>>103192187
But it feels so fucking good, silenced road are comfy
Not the safest ofc

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I liked Crin's Zero Red POS.
I wish he was a girl like picrel so I can do this to him as a form of gratitude.

>>103192670
Book your flight to Singapore

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>>103192658
wait till you listen to a true waterproof IEM like Sony NW-WS620 while swimming.

total noise isolation and holographic soundstage.

>>103193090
Swimming is noisy as fuck.

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>>103189066

>>103188394
Device manager will tell you how it identifies itself. They're almost certainly using some generic firmware and don't claim any specific hardware chip so they have no reason to lie about what's in it. A quick search on whatever device manager says should give you an idea of the hardware.

>>103193250
>pinna plateau
I wonder how these actually sound kek

>>103192751
Trump's tariffs would unironically make this the cheaper option when it comes to buying iems

>>103193497
he won't increase customs?

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Is this dip actually present or is that a measurement rig thing

>>103193612
its the resonance scoop

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>>103193612
it's supposed to be like that, you're more likely to hear a spike especially on budget pos like chu 2, zero 2 or wan'er. 5128 is closer but still not quite accurate to what you actually hear.

>>103193612
Probably just a quirk, not like everyone will hear it like so. If you think you hear the dip, just try EQing it and see if it improves the clarity, or if it just makes cymbals sound too close.

>Inawaken Dawn MS or Kefine Klean
Which one should i pick??

i BEG you RETARDS to STOP looking at the TREBLE range in graphs.
https://rentry.co/iem-eq-guide#measurements-and-misinterpretation
>>103193995
either are fine, get the cheapest

>>103194008
I will look at the treble, I will not buy your pos if it graphs bad on one of the rigs and I will not EQ.

The dip exists as a buffer zone for techs, because they dont appear on graphs. The bigger the canyon, the better the techs.

>>103194040
Typically any rig is accurate up to 10khz BUT. There’s also issues of resonance spikes/dips, different insertion depths, coupler quirks, etc.
Perception and reality are two separate things. Perception is arguably…much more important than actual reality, at least when it comes to audio(maybe I’m starting to understand why Sean Olive is a libtard)

>>103194008
Squigs is literal bone reading with nyquist plots, just demo the iems u retards

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I like Harman tuning
it sounds good

>>103194140
We know, xixsta...

>>103194140
your mom sounds good too
haha got you

>>103194123
If you haven't completed the training there's literally no point in demoing stuff, untrained people listen to the same thing twice and hear two different things.

What does /iemg think of the Earfun Air Pro 4?
Seems well reviewed. Is there a better option around $100?

>>103194287
Nothing Ear (2)

>>103194287
>earfu–
literally who
also, if it aint listed in the OP, then its not worth trying

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>>103194140
>Certified class 3 listener

>>103194331
>if it aint listed in the OP, then its not worth trying
topkek OP's list is stuck in 2021-2023, imagine having to hear a shrillgot and TRN

>>103194387
Class 3 listeners don't like Harman though.

>>103194396
it's still early 2024 bro, chill

>>103194457
anon, it's 2037...

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>>103194465

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>>103194455
geez, read the papers! class 3 aka old farts and females prefer a little less bass and a little more treble which isn't that different from the most statistically preferred adjustments. ppl read that as class 3 is nobass gang when they actually boost quite a bit too, it's just misinformation and noobs parroting whatever they read at this point

>>103194498
nice try class 3 listener

>>103194498
Less than 12dB shelf = no bass gang(deaf).

>>103194511
trained listeners like less bass than the untrained and zoomers niggers too ;)

>>103194533
Uh oh, deaf AND blind!

>>103194328
Measurements don't seem too compelling. Why this one?

>>103194287
Pretty much the best TWS up to 200-300 bucks, but this is the wrong thread to ask because nobody heere ones TWS aside from the Space Travel.
But the Air Pro 4 are amazing, best fit of any TWS i tried, ANC and transparency mode on par with the best or even better if you enbable adaptive mode and passive isolation is also great.
Comfort is good since they are big slimmer than the usual Air Pod clone shape and they use tips that have the usual IEM tip shape and not the small TWS tips.
Battery also lasts forever and the app has anything you could need.
No reason to get anything else, but again this thread will just shit on it since it's no moondrop or 20 bucks.

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My best purchase of the year

>>103194785
We get it, you stream music.

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>>103194731
PEQ built-in

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to anon(s) who aren't tired of shilling about eq, i kneel. Sorry for doubting you niggas

tws is offtopic and tourists need to gtfo

>>103194886
you're welcome, enjoy that 20db bass boost
>>103194888
!

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EQ is cope

>>103194925
only when you're clueless and noob

>>103194140
>>103194925
based frieren posters

>>103194888
You just posted about tws

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>>103195011
those are both me

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>>103190759
>That's not even real.
>he doesn't know.
>>103190810
kek... some exceptions.

>>103191031
>CCA CRA
Pagpag of IEMs. No wonder you like it so much, chuzo, since it reminds you of your daily meal.

>>103194757
Sounds awesome! Thanks anon. Was debating these or the QCY Melobuds. The Earfun will presumably be on sale for Black Friday so I might grab em then.

Has anybody tried the Estrella ? All the reviews online have been astroturfed by Gooks Audio's minions. I just want something that is bright with good sub-bass. How does it compare with the Hype 4 and Mangid Tea Pro ?

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>>103195571
Disclaimer I've only tried them halfheartedly during a meet. Tea Pro has better mids and timbre, Estrella sounded brighter but not in a good way.

>>103191829
Anon, even kilopos stuff needs EQ
There isn't a single iem or headpos in the world that is perfectly tuned to everyone
There are billions of different ears, different hearing acuity, etc etc

>>103195790
If your kilopos needs EQ that just means you blind bought them without auditioning which makes you a massive retard

>>103195571
>Has anybody tried the Estrella ?
Yes
>How does it compare with the Hype 4 and Mangid Tea Pro ?
The worst of the three. For me, it's Tea Pro > Hype 4 > Estrella, and I really don't particularly love any of them. I don't like brighter sets or overly emphasized / subpar timbre upper mids and lower treble. All three pos lack refinement in that region. In addition, Hype 4 and Estrella have poor quality bass that feels limp like a flapping plastic bag. They'll hit some sub bass, but not what I consider high quality, and the mid bass scoop is audibly more severe than graphs may imply. Tea Pro fills in the mid bass slightly more, more enveloping bass overall. Hype 4 mids sound glassy, and the upper treble >15k is retardedly boosted. If you have good hearing, it sticks out like a sore thumb as unnatural and sizzly. Estrella has "muh 5k techs peak," which just sounds like shrill shit. Yes on paper Estrella should be using "good drivers." No they did not achieve a good result in combination with the tuning. Techs happen to follow the same order of preference, Tea Pro with best macro and micro detail.
>All the reviews online have been astroturfed by Gooks Audio's minions.
If you pay attention, you will hear similar through-lines. It's a bright boosted set. Bright sets have a place and can be well regarded, I don't think Estrella is one of them. It's already old news.

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>>103186413
>>103186761
>>103186780

just achieved endgame level sound quality with my eq'd wankers

>>103195874
ayyy kek

>>103192164
most moto guys complain about iems not fitting under helmet, the shures are probably going to remain the best at that. if you still want to try some new stuff, Kefine Klean or Aful Explorer

>>103195832
>>103195790
Everything needs EQ. Kilopos often can't be salvaged due to meme drivers.

>>103192578
The deal appears to still be there.

Or am I just being chinked and it appears for me only because I already bought a T10 this 11.11 and it's unlikely I'll get another one? kek

>>103195736
Mega Shit5EST is way out of my budget.
>>103195844
I was thinking of copping an Estrella and a cheaper/safer all-rounder for the price of the Hype/Mangrid. I can stretch my budget slightly above $350. Do you have any recommendations ?

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Poorfag DAP and poorfag UTWS arrived

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>>103196429
>Buys a DAP with dedicated CS43131 dac which is then rendered obsolete by a TWS adapter

>>103191444
Thx anon :)

>>103196429
how's the hiby

>pos already arrived
do you guys choose express shipping by any chance?

>>103196347
Nothing about what I think of Estrella agrees with "safer all-rounder." I think it sounds bad irrespective of price, and nothing about the package or inclusions help the value proposition. Get something good or don't get anything at all, you're still shelling out over $200. Tea Pro is on sale, prob can get it sub-$300. Supermix4 or Dragonfly 81T if you like Harman. Aful P5+2 is hot current meme, get that if you want "alternative," mids tuning. TRI I3 MK3 is good for low contrast, bass-lite signature, transparent female vocals and technical mids through treble. I3 MK3 and Letshuoer Cadenza4 graph similar.

>>103196347
Please go demo those iems, it seems like you're not sure what you really want

>>103196709
I meant to get another iem that is cheaper in addition to the Estrella for the price. Welp sounds like the Estrella is unanimously bad. Linsoul is my only option and they decided not to have a discount on the Tea Pros.

My Performer 5+2 sounds bass boosted and I don't know if this is how it's supposed to sound. Everything performs like how reviews suggest, except the bass is way more than what I'm used to. It's not exactly muddy because it doesn't drown out the mids and the attack is fast. Maybe I'm listening on too low volume or there's extra impedance in my chain. If something like Estrella or Davinci is even more bass boosted than this, then I'm starting to think reviewers are deaf.

>>103197029
Most reviewers aren't deaf, just HEAVILY incentivized to praise new releases lest they get blacklisted by manufacturers

>>103197029
Adding to this, you would think it'd be fatiguing because of the treble but for me it's because the thumps are too impactful on very bassy songs, which is most pop music these days. And there's an audible spike at 7khz if I do a frequency sweep, but it doesn't come out in music for some reason. I checked by looking at the spectrum analyzer in foobar.

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Tell me about BC drivers /iemg/. Are they worth the cost? Do you enjoy them? Do you seek out IEMs that have them?

>>103197124
it is bassy, but it could also be an impedance thing
also, that 7khz is normal, almost certain it's your caal resonance
>>103197159
they're fine? not really useful, more of a marketing gimmick than anything in normal iems
the weird around the neck ones are neat, but far from good sound quality.

>>103197159
>>103197174
Only EE and UM make functional BC drivers

>>103197159
nah, BC is good with a BC earphones that don't block your ear canals, but having BC if you're stuffing them into your ears anyway makes zero sense.

>>103197029
sounds bass'ed to me. shieeeet if you're gonna shove 2DDs in a pos make em do somethin

>>103197188
lol
lmao
i didn't hear any special sauce in any EE or UM products. Thieaudio Origin and Kinera Verdandi were ok

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>>103197283
He just like me fr fr.

>>103197338
Is there anything non fox branded in your house?

>>103197338
Do you have fox-themed tattoos?

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You guys think this is gonna be decent? I'm not a FiiO fan, but I also don't wanna spend 350 on a Shanling, which also got sold out. I want a CD player that can be used as a desktop device and can connect to an external DAC. This can.

>>103197657
i went with moondorp.
i no longer have to dream of discdream... it will be my reality

Moondrop vinyl player when

>Vinyl -> R2R DAC -> Tube AMP
imagine the sheer analog old-school musicality...

>>103197719
Which one? Looking at the discdream 2 but it doesn't have a desktop mode from what I can tell unless I'm wrong. Overall less features.

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>>103197765
both 2 and 2 ultra can be used as a desktop DAC via USB-C. main differences between them are build material and 4.4 balanced

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>>103197720
idk but fiio is cooking

>>103197792
Hmm I can't tell if the fiio or the moondrop is better then.

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>>103197283
>you get a perfectly tuned end-game IEM
BUT
>it has a naked loli printed on the plate
do you buy it?

>>103197809
>RGBslop
that's a yikes from me. what a clashing, raw (in the worst way) aesthetic

>>103197850
>it has a naked loli printed on the plate

Girls ask the name of my custom pos (Q1 Pro) on commutes sometimes, so yes.

>>103197866
they're Chinese anon
they have awful aesthetics

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>>103197850
No, unless she was made for human men, then maybe

>>103197850
>BUT

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>>103197850
What's the downside?

>>103197850
No manufacturer is going to make that faceplate for you

>>103196429
>Celest
That's just a BT20 Pro, what's the relationship between TRN and Kinera?

>bro why don't you have a pair of tangzu wan'er bro for the price they go hard get a pair bro c'mon

are these things even good, an online friend of mine keeps shilling them like 4 times a week fuck

>>103198578
Yes

>>103198578
they're fine

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>>103198578
I wanted to ask the same thing for a while.
I plan on buying a beater IEM, would that still be a good option? The price is just about what I'm willing to pay, since I now have to spend 145% the cost in Ali.

>>103198645
I would personally go for the TRN MT5 (or KZ EDC Pro) instead of the Wan'ers if you're looking for the cheapest choices.

>>103198578
I prefer the Gate, those shells suck ass.

Okay so to keep it short
My truthear hinkracle zero red cable died
Am i better off buying a cable (most likely a linsoul tripowin) or a brand new iem?

>>103198798
You can get some cheapo iem that uses 2pin 0.78 cable, like Gate(well, probably pretty much same cable as your current one) or 7Hz Zero or whatever.

>>103198798
gate for the cable, or aliexpress for various cheap ~$8 cables like kbear 8-core

>>103198798
do you like the tuning of the zero red?

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Holy POS...

>>103198934
>No branding, just quality
>Super minimalistic design
>6 (six) times better than single DD pos
>Big discount!!
>Limited Edition, only 3 left

>>103198934
Number of drivers doesn't matter. At all. It's just something that attracts techie retards and little boys.

>>103198934
6 times the techs...
ddbros, we can't stop winning

>>103198934
Can you even shove 6 DDs per side?

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>TECHS
On the topic of techs, which IEMs have the most impressive techs? You know, shit that actually gets patented and whatnot?

>>103199014
if it's like 3x coaxial shits (dual diaphragms) with weak tiny magnets ye

reminder 7hz did 5dd. and my word what a pos it is

>>103199022
>techs
>patented
not how it works anon

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>>103199045
peaks of sibilance indeed lmao

>>103199022
knowles has a lot of patents, xmemes too probably

>>103199052
>not how it works anon
Well, many do apply for patents. Apparently chinese IP system is more lenient so even some ridiculous shit gets patented.
>>103199078
>knowles has a lot of patents, xmemes too probably
That's actually understandable. Driver development takes a lot of work. But this is not the techs I was asking about. I'm interested in shit that IEM companies try to patent and push as "revolutionary" shit.

>>103198839
>>103198852
Good insight. Thanks anons
>>103198863
Yes, I like how they sound
Keep in mind that I am not an expert though, pretty much a normie, i only ever had those and moondrop chu II and can barely tell the difference. While the audio quality is great, I cannot say the same for the materials. Theyre just cheap plastic and (apart from the cable problems), the shell of the right iem cracked and the top layer fell off, still works perfectly but the circuits are exposed now. Chu II on the other hand are waaay better when it comes to materials used to build it, its sturdier and gives a better feeling at touch, it seems like some kind of hardend plastic/iron and its really cool

>>103199164
techs are undefined by nature since their entirely dependent on perception.
aful has some patents for the stomach worm tubing they have on the magicone and stuff. if there are patents, they aim to improve distortion, efficiency, or FR

>>103199164
there is barely anything bro. any shit is fanciful naming for age-old standard practices. this shits figured out: drivers, venting, acoustic tubes, resistors, capacitors. whatever marketing (TM) gimmick a company wants to do it just that, marketing.

>>103199164
none of that is real, it's all just spins on old concepts like front volume tuning, vents, and passive crossovers
like for example 64 audio's apex system is just a tunable front vent, it's useful but its just a spin on decades old technology

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techs are in the cable.

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>>103199277
look at this shit nigga. numbers and bars, it must be real

>>103199289
Cables have fucking skill points now.

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Thank you so much Effect Audio(tm), I wanted to be sure I was choosing the right synergistic partners!

>>103199289
Versa™ got mogged here

>>103199289
imagine thinking that a fucking connector can change sound...

>>103199173
if the shell is cracked it's time for a new IEM anon
it sounds like you're a little rough on your units and prefer the metal ones. why not get a new moondrop? like an Aria

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What could cause one ear piece to be quieter than the other?
I just got a jodi vac and that did help but did not eliminate the problem.
I've also already tried swapping the cable and the actual ear listening.

>>103199553
pos filters clogged

Did kefine klean replace delci/AE?

>>103199527
>rough on iems
>recc moonderp
>>103199553
Remove the filter, wash it with soap, let it dry, glue it back on (get your own glue just in case). You have chosen cheap chinkshit iems, you have to live with cheap chinkshit filters.

>>103199632
Yes, they managed to reduce the cost with that faceplate

>>103199649
I mean I shelled out for the blessings 2, wouldn't say cheap even if chinkshit might be fair

>>103199672
Blessing 2 one side quieter? It's over, there's no tuning filter that you can wash. The BA dampeners (if clogged) are not easily accessible.

>>103199727
Was worried that was the case.
I guess its time to do some shopping research

>>103199779
time to redeem any pos + eq (guide)

>>103186265
I need a USB-C DAC that is louder than Apple dongle. What sorts of number am I looking at?

>>103199817
$10-$15. VE Odo or FiiO JA11

best IEM to watch Jack Paul x Mike Tyson?

>>103199817
sounds like you need to pay a visit to an otorhinolaryngologist, not a louder dongle

>>103199829
u don't even know if anon's using EU apple dongle + android, which means double cuck

>>103199853
It's probably an EU dongle and a European Pixel 6a with Graphene OS. I shouldn't want louder output volume for IEMs but it's not enough for high impedance over ear headphones.

>>103200117
>it's not enough for high impedance over ear headphones.
In this case, fiio KA11 is the best in terms of power at ~$30

>>103199527
They still sound fine (with a different cable) but maybe your right. Its not very /fa/ using cracked iem
>>103199794
Any recommendation? Aesthetically i like chink iems like kinera celesti or tangzu

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>>103200649
Chinkpos could never beat this (aesthetically)

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>>103200745
I think the mp145 look better desu, more mature design

>>103200649
literally anything is fine, aim for the best aesthetics and comfort

>>103200649
Celest Wyvern and Tangzu Wan'er are pretty equal as far as budget sets, Wyvern shell looks nicer. If Zero:Red fit your ears fine, Celest Relentless should be ok too (they're fairly large), going for ~$80 on Aliexpress right now. Tangzu's other budget models aren't very good up till Heyday, which is a bit overpriced.

>>103199672
try drying them at a low temperature in the oven

>>103199022
You can't patent a price.

>>103199289
>reduced lows and subbass
Gay.

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>>103200745

>>103200745
That's literally KZ design language

>>103200772
The main reason I didn't consider this is because it looks like shit. Even T10's hearing aids design is more appealing.

>>103199289
>0.78 2pin vs 0.78 2pin
What did they mean by this?
What's even the point of this when 2-pin ends up with a higher average score? Is this supposed to be an excuse to stop making that Versa thing because 2-pin is just cheaper to make and identical anyway?

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>>103203062
KZ stole the shape and always make the end result look like a toy with their laughable attempts at faceplate. They can't into resin, only mass produced injection molding. They could just leave the circuit board visible like AS10 and call it a day.

Any particular usb to micro usb cable to connect dacs that one could recommend?

>>103203966
>micro us bee
what the hell who uses that port in 2024

>>103203991
Old DAC...

>>103203993
all of them are essentially same and do the job
pick anything off amazog

>4 hours of inactivity
/iemg/ is dead and KZ killed it

>>103204342
Everyone's waiting their 11.11 haul or having buyer's remorse/post-spending clarity, wait a bit more.

I got 3 for $3 today but all my deals suck
wtf did they nerf?

my parcel hasn't even left xi jinpins garage

>>103201652
can you patent a faceplate design?

ANON WITH THE HIBY R1
DOES IT HAVE PEQ??

Will AliExpress have black Friday deals?
I want to grab stuff before the tariffs jack the price up.

>>103204554
yes, read the consoomer guide and iemgazette
on par with 11.11

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>>103204426
It has this and you can save multiple and give them names.

>>103204694
>female overtones
>detox
female poison fans in shambles

>>103204694
fuck, their other daps have peq, what a shame

>>103204694
>Sibilance = 0
Holy FUARK planars solved!

>>103204733
I hope they will listen to feedback for updates. I already asked for PEQ and a dark theme. Aside from that it's great so far. Smooth software, the screen is surprisingly good, great colours, very bright and perfect viewing angles.

>>103204764
>chinks
>updates
it will be updated in Hiby R1 (2025) lmao open your wallet gweilo

7Hz G1 should be in hall of fame, peak budget.

can we just ask for the hacker named 4chan to port a rockbox FW for the R1? O.O

>buy pos
>new and better pos for the same price releases a month later

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>>103204895
>peaker than harman
lol

>>103204978
just buy the new pos, you're not poor right anon?

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Shill me your latest pos, you know you want to give someone else buyer's remorse

What does pos mean?

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>>103205156

>>103204994
I'm not poor but I also don't like wasting money.
>>103205118
Sliivo.

>>103204369
I'm enjoying mine SM4.
Actually an amusing thing happened yesterday. While waiting for a bunch of ear tips to get to me from ali I was trying ones I have. Stopped on large moondrop spring tips from my aria SEs. Didn't like them on arias but for SM4 it was a decent fit. Suddenly I started to hear electric hum which was 100% not present days prior. Unplugged IEMs from my DAC to confirm that I'm actually hearing it. It went away. Tried different cables/IEMs/eartips next. I could hear this fucking hum only with SM4 and moondrop tips, no other combination produced that noise. Noticed that touching DAC or jack made hum go away... touching my PC made it go away too. Finally I went to the outlet and started yanking the plug lol and when I pulled it down hum disappeared... Using another outlet for PC fixed the issue. So... moondrop spring tips are really good, can recommend for detecting suspicious electric hum from your outlet. Thanks for reading my blog I guess

>>103205177
I like "performance oriented system"

I was gonna buy a FiiO DM13 CD player but I remembered I'm smart and I didn't fall for the scam.

>>103205233
your crib got grounding issues g

>>103204985
>that mud and sibilance
Shit wasn't even better than 2018s HoF (mh755)

new bread >>103205376

>>103200745
>20 logos on one set of IEMs