>>103202134
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer/Steel Legend
is there any point getting an x870 for a 9800x3D if B650s apparently work fine?

>>103202148
Yeah if you need the extra IO capabilities.

>>103202148
x870? probably not unless you want usb4 or wifi7
x870e and x670e are neat though - they tend to have 4 if not 5 m.2. slots

>>103202148
Only reasons I can think of are, thunderbolt becoming more common and you want it in the future, and also longer support/BIOS updates, support for newer AM5 CPUs. So just future concerns, a bit more longevity.

>>103202191
What manufacturers don't update for the new CPUs? The Asus X370 board I had was updated for most cpus for example.

>>103202191
the B650M HDV/M.2 has a vrm that can handle the 7950X/9950X which is why its recommended. an X870 wont have any better cpu support than the B650

>>103202234
Stop bothering, next year they'll get 1000$ mobos.

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>>103202134
Any recommendations for AM5 ITX boards? I'm planing to use 2 NVMe SSDs and 3 HDDs.

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>>103202134
Anything to look for or avoid in a Mobo/RAM?
I'm buying a 9900x and don't want to shoot myself in the foot

>>103202253
b650i aorus pro

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What should I add or remove? I'm going to wait for Black Friday deals to see if there's anything to get at a better price.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/C396h7

>>103202257
Don't be enticed into spending too much.

>>103202261
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/yYrK8Q
that is what I would change.

>microcenter near me restocked on 9800x3ds
I GOT ONE AT MSRP!!!
enjoy those tariffs if you dont get one this year

>>103202317
grats

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>1440p ~24 inch
now this is interesting, anyone owns one of these?

>>103202313
Thanks!

>>103202169
I wish there was an "X870, but instead of USB4, wi-fi, and a half-dozen m.2s, they just ran the lanes out to PCI-E slots so I could choose which stuff I want"

>>103202134
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT

>>103202347
That sounds like a neat idea, any server motherboards or anything do stuff like that?

>>103202347
That would be nice.

>>103202257
>Mobo
The hard way: Dope out your requirements 'on paper' and cross-reference them against board specs/reviews. Stuff like power delivery, PCIe layout, USB count and type, wireless connectivity, and audio setup. Buy the cheapest board that satisfies them.
The easier way: Go overkill so you're covered. Basically spending money to save time.
The easiest way: If you really don't know, go by recommendations from /pcbg/, Buildzoid, HWunboxed, etc.

The only thing you should really "avoid" on AM5 is integrated WiFi because they (almost) all use a cheapo Mediatek chipset. Better to add your own; bearing in mind that a lot of boards have an E-key M.2 slot for this purpose. Also probably best to avoid A-series chipsets unless you're really struggling to meet budget.

>RAM
Standard: 6000-30-36-36 in the capacity you need. Sort by price because this spec always uses the same chips.
Tuner: 8000MT/s with first word latency ≤10ns. Manually tuned timings in Gear 2.

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>>103202258
It's 440€ right now. Maybe they're just clearing stock until they release a new version.

>>103202371
>>103202373
I think Asus had some X570 workstation mobo that was kinda like that, and maybe Asrock Rack will do something. But stuff you can order right now, I don't know of anything.

>>103202410
the new version was released this past week called the X870I AORUS PRO ICE

>>103202148
no of course not, it's like asking if there's any point in getting a BMW X7 when you could also drive a toyota corolla. Motherboard manufacturers make expensive boards for the top 1% just like BMW makes expensive cars for people with excess money.

>>103202457
its not even for the top 1%
lots of people buying i7s and r7s spring for the asus hero board for brand name or looks

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>>103202305
I'll keep that in mind. Though, I'd rather spend an extra buck now, rather than wait for the coming price hikes to fuck me over
>>103202388
Thank you for the write up. I plan on going the hard way, but will wait to see what pops up on sale- I don't mind spending extra as long as I get my money's worth.
>The only thing you should really "avoid" on AM5 is integrated WiFi because they (almost) all use a cheapo Mediatek chipset
Is it really that bad? I've never heard anyone complain, or even talk about it
>Standard: 6000-30-36-36 in the capacity you need. Sort by price because this spec always uses the same chips.
Extremely helpful, thank you.

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>>103202445
It's also at 440€ right now. Is there no daughterboard like on the B650 Ultra?

Why are core ultra CPUs so expensive?

>>103202497
external fab, too much silicon, trying to still make margin on top

>>103202478
this board only has two m.2. and two sata? wtf? its a straight downgrade from the b650i aorus ultra

I need to build a PC for around $1000 Including a monitor. I've been looking at either a 7600x3d with a 4060 or a 7600x with a 7700xt.
Which would be better?

>>103202528
7700xt is peak value atm, unless you can find 6800 under $300

>>103202552
Going to microcenter, I suppose open box may be possible, I'll keep an eye out. I just wasn't really sure if I would want to go harder on the CPU or the GPU for this sort of bucget.

>>103202578
Depends on what you are going to use it for, what games you play at what resolution etc.
I would not get 4060 regardless since it's too weak to do any practical ai or rt, and amd is cheaper at pure triangle rastering, but some games do benefit from x3d more than from slightly better gpu.

>>103202578
microcenter definitely has 6800s
I'd go with the 7600 + 7700XT over a 7600X3D + 4060 any day

>>103202596
Age of Empires, Red Dead, and Ghosts of Tsushima were the ones I was told they'd be using it for. Presumably games similar to those as well.
>>103202618
Sweet, thanks for the help.

>>103202641
Yea that's not the sort of games where x3d becomes noticeable.
Get 7600 + 7700XT.

>>103202655
You've got me curious what sort of games x3d becomes advantageous with?

>>103202669
ones that tend to be cpu limited

>>103202678
I haven't played anything with my most recent build that even utilizes more than 10% of my 7950x3d. Talking shit like Cities Skylines?

lads got any advice on any which cheap good sata SSDs to pick up?
I know m.2 is priced better but my mobo only has one m.2 slot and I got a good 2tb in there already

but seems like all decent sata ssds cost around 140$ for 2tb

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>>103202678
Baldur's gate 3 loves 3d vcache

>>103202669
Some games are just cpu-bound by design:
4x strategies like stellaris or crusader kings
hyper realistic auto/flight simulation
logistics/automation - factorio, dwarf fortress

Most other games tent to get much better 1% lows with x3d, but it's only really noticeable in fast shooters.

>>103202134
Why tranime OP though?

>>103202710
clickbait works bro
without it pcbg will be dead

>>103202699
>5600X3D higher than 285K
holy shit

Anyone manage to do comparative benchmarks for the monster hunter wilds beta?

>>103202725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHdM-Gbqf24

>>103202745
I imagine 9800x3d + 5090 won't do shit lmaoo

>>103202745
This guy and his upwards pointing finger is quickly becoming my favorite tech youtuber.

Can an old GPU start to be unstable at stock clocks and voltages? If so, what's the better fix, lowering clocks or upping the voltage and power limit?

>>103202745
performance is going to be so much worse on launch as they have 3 different DRM platforms planned for the PC version of the game because sales of their modern games have been awful and they're desperate for the money

>>103202824
>games do not sell due to shit performance
>make performance even worse

Brilliant japanese business move again.

>>103202819
lowering clocks is the best way about it

>>103202810
hes the only one that seems genuinely enthused about pc hardware

>>103202528
The latter unless you only play RTS/management games.

>>103202832
monhun makes the lions share of its money from portables so i dont think the nips give too much shits about westoids

>>103202710
Bro, there was no OP from midnight EU time (6PM EST I believe) until 9AM EU time (3AM EST).

The last OP went to 400+ posts and then 404'd and no one bothered to make a new one.

Non trannies had 9 hours to make their OP.

>>103202841
Monster Hunter World sold more than all the portables combined.

>>103202846
Did the Settlers sell more than Monster Hunter?

>be me
>new pc has wifi and bluetooth
>set up shit to work with bluetooth
>notice a mobile hotspot option
>see it's 5ghz
>always had problems with other methods, why not?
>connect quest 3
>okay speeds and feels almost like a link cable but terrible fucking lag spikes
>go into reg edit and device manager to adjust the adaptor settings
>speeds go up to 1200mbs but still terrible lag spikes
>download wifi analyzer
>change channel to one with no activity
>still terrible lag spikes
>what the actual fuck
>dig around more and more
>reddit thread with supposed answer
>turns out its windows scanning for new wifi networks every minute or so
>have to use command line to disable it
>it works
Jesus fucking christ... windows is the gayest platform.

>>103202864
you gonna change to linux?

>>103202134
>>COOLER
Where can I find reviews that include temps, volume, and longevity (if possible)?
I know of GN, but where else?

>>103202879
Fuck no. I actually like to play games.
>inb4 just dual boot
I'd still be dealing with windows faggotry at the end of the day

>>103202903
>I actually like to play games.
NTA but Linux gaming works well, even though some titles take a little troubleshooting

>missed out on c4 42 on sale before
>missed out on pg32ucdm on sale
it's all a giant cope
I should have bought the c4 first time because tbqh higher brightness and speakers and multiple hdmi ports would have been nice
it's over, genuinely (I will wait for another tv sale)

>>103202892
youtube
and noone will review longevity in any objective sense

>>103202892
Hardware Canucks Youtube Channel
Techpowerup https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=CPU%20Coolers
Albert Thomas from Toms Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/air-cooling

>>103202892
hardwarebusters

>>103202923
Hwbusters is good but only focuses on case and psu fans atm

May be a dumb question but is now an ok time to build a new PC?

Others have a better understanding on price trends, and there's periods where everyone suddenly wants a new rig, then there's times when prices cool off some. Which time is it now?

>>103202927
actually i was wrong, hwbusters is good too

>>103202928
Good time to build if you have a budget of $1000-$1500

>>103202917
>youtube
No shit, sherlock. I was asking about specific reviewers.
>>103202920
>>103202923
Thank you.

>>103202948
does it change much at 1440p? thats what i game at

>>103202914
Well, I guess it would depend on the level of troubleshooting. I normally don't have to do that kind of shit in windows unless I'm doing something stupid, like using my motherboard's onboard wifi to do VR streaming instead of a router...

>>103202948
sandy bridge vs bulldozer remastered

>>103202982
Bulldozer outperformed the phenom though.

I need to buy a new WiFi router. My old one is like 14 years old. The problem is I don't even know how to read wifi router specs. I live in a 1450 sq/ft apartment, 10 devices. How much speed, band whatever do I need? My internet is 120mbps.

>>103202989
piledriver did. bulldozer lost to phenom or needed 2x the power to match it

>>103202971
>I guess it would depend on the level of troubleshooting
Depends on what you play. Look up your games on Protondb, and see what you're in for, should you ever decide to make the switch

>>103203010
>1450 sq ft is approximately equal to 134.71 sq meters
that is fuck huge rich boy
are you american? buy a double pack of ASUS ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro's and mesh it up, you will prolly need more range
but now I just read you have poverty internet that's slow as shit so you can prolly get by with something way way cheaper like some old wifi 6 shit

>>103202134
I would build a shizuko

>>103202710
Kill yourself tourist

>>103203025
Not American, internet is shit but property is cheap. Pretty much every brand is available to but how much should I even spend? The price range is like $30 to $300. 3 people using 10 devices (also fridge, oven etc) so I get the feeling my router is dropping packets.

>>103203010
Depends on your budget but for example ASUS RT-AX53U (entry model), AVM FRITZ!Box 4060 (mid range model), ASUS RT-AX86U Pro (MO3B00) (high end model), or ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT9) AX7800 if you want a mesh set.

Here to report two months with PTM7950 on a CPU. Works like a charm, it's not better than a paste by much, but peace of mind that I don't have to replace it ever is a big deal.
CPU idles at 41C', with 25C in a room. Got it for $8 a 40x80mm sheet. So IHS isn't a problem for it, like at all.

>>103203052
your PC is not in a room normally?

>>103203046
I'd set up a mesh for that many devices.

so 5000 series next year, then 6000 series on 2027?

hopefully OLEDs are cheaper by that point...

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Day 9 of waiting for a 9800X3D restock.

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This is perfect

>>103203056
ambient is 25C right now

Can the new nvidia app be used with telemetry stripped drivers?
I know by itself it has opt-out telemetry as well

>>103203066
That is a lot of usb c

>>103203063
>then 6000 series on 2027?
likely 26. TSMC ramps up 2nm by the end of 2025. and 2nm is the end of the road for a while, 2nm++++ era incoming for the goo 5-8 years

I am so tempted by an OLED right now, $580 for a a 240hz QD-OLED from MSI here on order from china. But I expect CES will bring up new models with better reliability and cheaper initial MSRP.

>>103203066
wifi seems dangerously close to analog audio (not like I'd ever use integrated either anyway)
which of these type c has dp alt mode? or all of them?
what does the smart button do?

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>>103203066
I checked for 10G boards a couple weeks ago and all of them were €400+, nevermind all the other gear you need

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>>103202948
In 1% lows the gap is even wider.

>>103202957
It depends on the game, resolution, in-game settings, your graphics card. For the average user who wants to play AAA games at 60 FPS at medium-ish settings, a 5600/12400 is enough. You don't need to spend a lot for a decent gaming experience these days.
AM4 users can buy a 5700X3D for less than $200 and forget about CPU upgrades until next-gen consoles in 2028+.

That said, if you want to spend $500+ on a CPU for gaming, there's no reason to buy a 285K: it's slower, more expensive, less efficient, and on a dead platform. Even if you're GPU-bottlenecked 99% of the time, why would you spend more for a worse product.

I'm building my last gaming pc now, so probably an am4 will be enough. Looking at video games nothing is exciting anymore.

>>103203080
>I am so tempted by an OLED right now
You are not alone, the only cope I'm doing to control myself is gaslighting myself that my 3090 wouldn't be able to fully utilize it at 4k anyways. I'm hoping by 2026, OLEDs are far cheaper and more advanced.

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>>103203093
why yes, i did buy an oled to play 20 year old games, how can you tell?

>>103203093
my cope I'd waste $600 on a thing that will burn in a year later the way I tend to use my monitor.

>>103202134
>9800X3D
>$479 = 454.26€
>nowhere on eu amazon
>check private resellers
>listed at 699€

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>>103203100

>>103203090
i asked for the average difference at 1440p and you start rambling about variables and conditionals
im going to assume its not as flattering

>>103203101
>my cope I'd waste $600 on a thing that will burn in a year later the way I tend to use my monitor.
With how I use my monitor (lowest brightness settings because I live in the dark), it would take years for burn-in to take effect if I ever had one.

>>103203100
people buy them to play WoW, not a worst case use I think, game sucks but coloring is still top notch.

>>103203100
How deep are the blacks, sir?

>>103203108
>(lowest brightness settings because I live in the dark
same and dark theme on everything, but I'm not convinced
I even feel like 120cd/m2 in SDR is too bright sometimes.

>>103203115
My frame of reference is the laptop X1 Yoga laptop I own from before the pandemic, it's been running 24/7 on the lowest brightness settings and I'm not seeing any burn-in. This is from an OLED screen from more than 5 years ago. From what I know QD-OLED needs far less voltage to achieve the same brightness compared to regular OLED.

>>103203066
>1700€
how about no

>>103203100
I should have bogt an oled now its fucking over

>>103203106
higher res is less cpu limited the higher you go yes

>>103203108
>100% brightness
>100% saturation
>all oled care features off
yep, it's time to game

>>103203106
The difference is 20.714% at 1440p. You're welcome. No, I won't provide any context or, as you called it, "rambling about variables and conditionals"

>>103203100
same here
7800x3d+4080s and the newest game i own is gta4
4k with ssaa/sgssaa on older titles looks so cash

>>103203127
thanks

>>103203122
huh, good to know, I have 17 more days to decide before sale is over, I'm getting 27" 1440p though
4k is too expensive to upkeep long run, won't be able to skip two gens of GPUs like I do

looking to upgrade a few things with black friday sales, does this list look good? everything marked as bought is my current build; anything with a price im looking to upgrade to.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bVZpgn
i don't want an nvidia gpu. amd/intel only.

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>>103203111
LG panels gamma settings suck, 2.4 has crushed black all over, must calibrate to proper 2.2
I ahve no idea if it's fixable in HDR. So if you want proper colors go Samsung panels.

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>>103203126
>saturation
that's not how it works, you are still confined to dogshit srgb gamut unless you also override hdmi colorimetry in hidden menu.

>>103203145
man that looks beautiful

>>103203145
>crushed black
racial genocide isnt funny

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>>103203111
As black as the void. Doom 3 is as god intended.

>>103203145
My LG C1 has a black level settings on game optimizer mode. The right value depends on the game. For Witcher 7-8 is fine. For something already dark like Resident Evil you want 10.

>>103203147
>hdmi
>not using displayport

>>103203164
>lg tv
>displayport

>>103203160
i did the opposite and cranked up the gamma on my oled
i want to see cunts hiding in shadows in quake/cs/whatever

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I will like to take a moment to announce another PSA that all MSI monitors are hot garbage and especially OLED ones that are effectively DOA at this current point in time due to non skippable OLED care cutscenes

>>103203134
>4k is too expensive to upkeep long run
yes let's just gimp my resolution and monitor quality for the native res meme IN GAMES
the age of native res memes is dead my friend
plus at 140ppi it aint that serious
plus upscaling
plus general use
this ain't it

>>103203147
>you are still confined to dogshit srgb gamut unless you also override hdmi
I have no idea what you are talking about tbqh with u senpai

>>103203192
That pixel cleaning feature is a thing on LG too. Every 4 hours it cleans after you turn off the display. After hundreds of hours it does a deeper cleaning that takes an hour.

>>103203192
it says right there how to skip it

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oled with autoHDR is the gift that keeps on giving - especially when you can use the lieks of dvgoodoo2 and dxvk to enable it to trigger in older games.

>>103203201
All of them are set to 4 hours, the difference is someone of them (like the msi) give that fuck off warning that cannot be turned off until the refresh is run. The alienware oleds for example won't alert you but if you bring up the menu it has an icon that goes from green to yellow when a refresh is needed (plus it will do the refresh when the monitor is on standby like all the others).

>>103203201
the difference is most other ones don't have a bugged firmware that does not run it in standby mode and also does not FORCE a pop up in the middle of the screen every 16h, which makes MSI DOA.
ALL Monitors that does not have a setting to FULLY DISABLE pixel refresh notices MUST be boycotted because they are DOA

>>103203208
above

>>103203218
i dont think you know what doa means

>>103203219
stop sucking corporate cock immediately

>>103203229
stop using words incorrectly

>>103203213
>>103203218
It runs automatically when you turn off the TV. Being this autistic about a pop up once every hundreds of hours is silly. I get more popups from LG asking me to update YouTube.

>>103203242
faulty product as such DOA

>>103203244
>It runs automatically when you turn off the TV
and that's a good thing

>Being this autistic about a pop up once every hundreds of hours is silly
the firmware is bugged so it never runs in sleep every 4h, as such it will pop up every 16h in the middle of your gaymes, constantly
the 4h sleep bug is bad
the notifications pop up is extra bad
>I get more popups from LG asking me to update YouTube.
tv? I'm sure you can avoid and disable most of these and they don't run during use either

>>103203213
>oled with autoHDR is the gift that keeps on giving
You can force autoHDR on titles that don't support it with a simple application
I do have a QD-OLED monitor and sometimes I'm not all that impressed. There's still tweaking to be done with shit like ReShade. Now banding is more often noticeable (banding that was there in the first place that is).
Nvidia's solution (RTX HDR) is a mixed bag too. You get a pretty automatic method of applying HDR to plenty of games, with some settings you can change ingame, but there's a performance hit and there's this issue as well with quality settings that you can't change unless you run some other tool.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1b3fds4/rtx_hdr_can_destroy_fine_picture_detail/

Honestly to me HDR is a bit of a headache. I thank the lord for games that have native HDR.

>>103203192
Disable the warning and only do it every 16 hours
That's a thing with most current OLED monitors because they don't trust (You) to take care of it. You're being told over and over, by people here, by ecelebs, by marketers even, that these are not designed for work, but for gaming/watching content. If you're irked by 5 minutes of maintenance, use your work monitor, not your fun monitor.

do a lot of typing? get a monochrome monitor :)

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>>103203192
>I have no idea what you are talking about tbqh with u senpai
Some 30 years ago execs at microsoft and hp decided that nobody needs more than sRGB amount of colors anyway, and proposed it an implicit universal standard for pc displays.
To this day autistic videophile purists like to pretend that all the media content ever produced is meticulously mastered to be viewed on sRGB displays, no more and no less.
Meanwhile monitors got better and learnt to display more colors, but to satisfy demands of aforementioned autists they had to implement various artificial limitations within firmware/settings.
HDR added explicit color range negotiation between monitor and source, BUT if you use windows in HDR mode it just clamps ALL legacy programs into sRGB colorspace within HDR colorspace.
Even when said legacy program is some anime pixel art or comic style game that would look better in wider gamut.

With LG TVs best way to force full gamut is to disable HDR and use the code above.

>>103203284
>Disable the warning
you can't, that's precisely the whole issue here, do you understand now

>That's a thing with most current OLED monitors
every single one other than msi has this handled better which outright FUCKED UP

you did not understand the issue

>>103203291
I see, well TVs seem to benefit from lots of service menu tweaking still

>>103203296
You said
>the difference is most other ones don't have a bugged firmware that does not run it in standby mode
The problem here is, I have an MSI monitor, and it does indeed run it in standby mode.
Update your firmware or complain about your particular model so they give you an updated version of it if it's bugged.
I don't think you understand what you bought.

>>103203192
that's a health care feature, get up from your chair fatass and walk a little.

>>103203258
>faulty product as such DOA
I'm going to be that guy, doa means dead on arrival. they sold more than two million units in first month. MSI took the bank with OLEDs and still selling them well.

>>103203291
I thought effectively no games respected ICC profiles so it wouldn't know what to clamp to so the display would actually be displaying whatever gamut it can.

>>103203338
from waht I know on w11 exclusive full screen adn borderless is the same thing, so borderless games can use ICC profile from desktop

This talk of HDR reminds me I should give the system shock remake a playthrough as supposedly that has good HDR if you enable it through a config file.

>>103203290
If you do a lot of work with static images yes, you're not supposed to spend money on something that doesn't excel there
If you don't like the strengths of OLED and you constantly use your monitor highlighting its weaknesses, considering the very extensive amount of information available out there you have before you go out and buy one of these, and still buy an OLED display expecting it to do things it cannot, you are exceptionally retarded.

>>103203046
>also fridge, oven etc
lmao

>>103203345
there is nothing to look at in the game.

hdr remake of uplink when?

>>103203192
MSI oled care triggers after 4 hours if you're not using it, if you're using it still it won't trigger until the 16th hour it'll forcefully trigger it.

>>103203160
funny how that looks absolutely fine on my 5 year old cheap QLED samsung tv
how much did you pay for your meme tv/monitor again?

>>103203363
people pay the premium for high refresh rates
your regular old cheap OLED TV's stuck at 60hz

>new build is crashing like once a day
>I'm certain it's hardware related because it happens in any OS, even BIOS
>already tried everything I could (yes, everything)
>have no other parts to swap and test with
>not a single repair shop within hundreds of miles
>the problem is so rare I'm sure the RMA service would just not experience it or lie
>the only way to diagnose the problem is to waste money on parts I might not need
I feel scammed

>>103203351
Lots of neon though.

>>103203363
You think you have seen black but you haven't.

>>103203366
so? when I'm gayming on my TV I use a controller anyway, games with mouse/keyboard I use my monitor (which is absolute dogshit t´bh)

>>103203338
If the game itself supports HDR natively than yes, it's up to game engine to implement ICC and manage (or ignore) colorspace clamping.
If it's a legacy game, including ones running through autoHDR mode, windows receives maximum colorspace from the monitor and sends back sRGB-clamped signal.
As for legacy SDR applications that do actually support ICC profiles, like image viewers/editors, those have to be run in compatibility mode.

>>103203367
Protip: manually set cpu clocks to base clock and report back.

>>103203370
>You think you have seen black but you haven't.
yeah I don't live in the US

>>103203376
i dont care how you gayme, people pay the premium for high refresh rate smoothness

>>103203367
>already tried everything I could
then you should know what part is failing? at least, if you did try running stress tests

>>103202134
is it worth upgrading my 5600x to an 5700X3D? Depending on game and rig benchmarks show you can get up to 10%+ in average FPS. I own a 4070ti and think it might be bottle necked by my CPU.

I never clamp to srgb and never will.

I have these:
> ASUS 4080S ROG Strix, 4 months old
> ASUS ROG STRIX 850W Gold Aura Edition, 4 months old
(+7800X3D, Asrock B650M HDV/M.2, nothing else power hungry hooked up)
Over the past month I've started having problems with what seems to be the GPU. Sometimes, when run high-load games my screens go black and the game (seems to) crash. Video in the background keeps running though, I can still hear the sound from it. It still only happens intermittently, some days I never get the crash at all, some days several times per day.

I need to eliminate the possibility of it being the PSU before I return the GPU, how the fuck do I do that? Is there some obvious type of error I should look for? I guess step 1 is to run some benchmarks and see if I can reproduce it reliably. I have run HWInfo logging and managed to catch a crash with it yesterday. 16-pin voltage never drops below 11.963 V. Temps aren't even close to any kind of limit, but interestingly when the crash happens the temps stop reporting entirely while most other sensor values still report.

>>103203192
>>103203284
My Samsung 4K OLED doesn't do this and I use it 12h+ a day.

>>103203367
I'm in kind of a similar boat now, shit sucks

>>103203378
If you mean disabling all forms of boosting, I did that, didn't help.
>>103203389
All stress tests (memtest, linpack furmark, 3dmark, occt, you name it) pass, this isn't the common kind of issue.

>>103203409
set a more aggressive llc for the cpu

>>103203332
I don't own one
>The problem here is, I have an MSI monitor, and it does indeed run it in standby mode.
good if true and real, however still there is the inescapable 16h popup which is no bueno, along with not being allowed to disable pixel shift, and probably more things I forget
>Update your firmware
some msi models can't even get firmware upgrades, another thing

>>103203333
does not need to be 4-16h usage in a single setting, you can get fucked in the middle of a thing
doa products

>>103203336
only reason they are decently priced in the us, eu they are even more doa in pricing, along with doa firmware

>>103203361
unacceptable firmware and osd, simple as

>>103203405
msi has the uncontested worst firmware/osd out of all, unless proven otherwise at this current point in time as I said

>>103203401
have you tried undervolting the gpu?

>>103203367
>>new build is crashing like once a day
crashing how exactly? resetting out of blue or a blue screen?

>>103203420
negative, I'll give it a shot

>>103203416
Tried that already, like I said, I did try EVERYTHING I could with the parts I have. I wasn't looking for help, I'm just ranting.

>>103203046
what do you mean, 'fridge and oven'? what possible reason could you need a fridge or oven to hook up to the internet? especially for the fridge, what're you gonna do, ay skyrim on it?

>>103203401
update to latest version of windows 24h2 to fix wddm/dwm bugs

>>103203442
I'm on win 10 IOT LTSC if that matters, I think it's 21H2, but I'll look into if that stuff applies to me

>>103203433
you sure it's not your house electrical issue? do clocks reset on oven or something?

>>103203417
> msi has the uncontested worst firmware/osd out of all, unless proven otherwise at this current point in time as I said
I was about to buy the MSI but the prices are fucked in the EU. The MSI is more than 1400€ while the Samsung was only 1050€. I was hesitant about Tizen OS, but everything is snappy and you aren't forced to use the smart features. I even got a service remote so I can access the factory menu and turn off some superfluous stuff. Namely the automatic game bar popup and EU energy saving warning.

>>103203471
you want win 11 iot enterprise ltsc 24h2 26100.2448

>>103203367
I've done many RMAs and most of them went through no questions asked with a new replacement

>>103203417
>I don't own one
Then where are you getting this info from? Some random redditor?
>however still there is the inescapable 16h popup which is no bueno
They figured it's not up to the user to protect the monitor. They have a warranty that does cover burn-in, I assume there's this thing where they'd rather the user does not abuse OLED where it hurts the most as early as possible and try to get that covered by that warranty. MSI assumes user retardation and they're often right.
>along with not being allowed to disable pixel shift
you're not allowed to, but it has three settings (slow, normal, fast). By default it's "normal" and it's barely a thing you can notice on a daily basis. I didn't even bother setting it to slow because of that. Legit you have to be working on static content for several hours straight just to notice the shift. Something that again OLED is not intended for and specialized on and it's like bitching about water making things wet at this point.
>some msi models can't even get firmware upgrades, another thing
That has changed recently.
MAG monitors used to be non-updateable, now they have firmware updates. My 271QPX for instance.

>>103203442
>>103203489
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/16ntssd/dwmexe_causes_graphics_driver_crash/
shit man this seems eerily similar to my symptoms. gotta dig deeper into this

>>103203495
>My 271QPX for instance.
do you rike it? I'm so conflicted about OLED, the only reason I want it is "no glow" and black levels. And that feels like not enough for the price and my monitor already got 0.11 black point.
also a quesiton, do you see any stutters if you run games at lower fps than refresh rate

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>>103202134
Was outside and bored, so I went to Saturn (Germany) just to see how theyre doing these days. Haven't been in one for 10 years probably.

They didn't waste any time reminding me why I and many others will never buy anything there

>>103203424
Both, sometimes also boot errors (with a code that doesn't exist and isn't documented anywhere).
>>103203473
I concede that I didn't consider that as a factor, but I'm in Europe and my power isn't under heavy load (heating and cooking is gas).
>>103203494
What would I RMA, everything? Won't they make you pay for false claims?

>>103203536
>What would I RMA, everything? Won't they make you pay for false claims?
No, these companies literally don't care. At most they'll check whether the product you're sending in is exactly what you're claiming it is and that the s/n is legitimate.

The only time (out of more than a dozen) it got bad for me is that I had to cover shipping one way, but I still got a new replacement from that.

>>103203536
>Both, sometimes also boot errors (with a code that doesn't exist and isn't documented anywhere).
eh, how did you install your OS? proper clean install after format, right?
>but I'm in Europe and my power isn't under heavy load
you never know, some idiot cut grounding cable in my building once, my PSU tripped hard on that
get a ground checker for outlets, they cost like $3-4 you can also test if breakers work or not with it, they should switch off instantly after button press

>>103203510
if you read through windows patch notes they say they fix wddm/dwm/various bugs with graphics. im too lazy to find to specific version where its addressed but just update.

>>103203513
I like it for HDR content and for stuff like emulation and some darker shit. I like it for instance with games like the Deus Ex series. HDR with OLED set up properly is cumworthy. Text fringing on this is fairly difficult to notice. This panel is QD-OLED glossy, not glossy to the point where any little source of light whatsoever gets reflected, but being QD-OLED it's not great on a fully bright room.
Keep in mind with this one, HDMI and DP both do 360hz fine with DSC, but without it, HDMI is the better option. You can't get a lot of bandwidth out of its supported DP version whereas with HDMI at least you can do 1440p@240hz 10bits. Honestly there's virtually no difference I can see with or without DSC other than missing 2 options on the nvidia panel (DSR and DLDSR). But it also gets difficult to see a difference between 240hz and 360.
I have no stuttering under the refresh rate, most games I play run under that. That's what VRR is supposed to handle. There is VRR flickering but it's something I can only notice when I get massive framerate fluctuations and at least for what I've played those are very rare.

>>103203609
>>103203513
Oh also do keep in mind, the monitor has two settings: True Black 400 and Peak 1000 nits. If you do use Peak 1000 nits, please for the love of god just use SDR most of the time. The auto brightness limiter is annoying as shit on that setting. It is impressive for highlights, don't get me wrong, but not for browsing obviously.

>>103203617
I am 20cm away from a monitor, 1000nit will burn my eyes out even in 1% window. you likely own it only for a few months, but any burn in concerns?

>>103203635
I do sometimes leave it with static content on screen but I cannot tell you much there. I went in fully expecting burn in within a few years, of course I don't have anything now but it's pretty early to tell.

HDR is also great for the highly complex crt shaders (think mega bezel and death to pixels) if that is your style.

ive found that hdr on windows right now has too much annoyances/caveats for my lazy ass to bother with, the biggest one being the monitor blacking out when switching between the two modes
it sucks because for my tv its literally no hassle at all when switching between sdr/hdr

they should stop advertising HDR on these IPS monitors because of that I got an impression that HDR is shit and useless, until I experienced actual HDR with an OLED

9800x3d
us :480 msrp
eu: 545 euro (most sellers have it at 559)
fuck this place bro

>>103203683
miniLED HDR is alright on $1.5k monitors, but they lost all value since oled is $700 now

>Dual Channel DDR5 Memory Technology
is there something like a quad channel mode when you're using 4 sticks?
is my ram going to be super slow since my mobo only has dual channel?

>>103203668
Real operating systems let you leave HDR on at all times and correctly displaying SDR content until HDR content is displayed and you get the benefit it brings. Windows is not such an OS.

>>103203705
depends what state you buy in, different taxation laws
EU is fucked, 2 wars, taxes over 50%+VAT, sea container is 3000% more expensive than pre 2020. I live in Russia and we got closer to US prices here despite the sanctions.

>>103203709
yeah id move to linux but mine doubles as a workstation and cad tools are rancid horseshit on it

>>103203707
thats reserved for hedt platforms like threadripper
the memory will run at a much lower speed on consumer boards

>>103203707
quad channel is for data centers, dual is max you got.

>>103203720
pizzatown here, in germany and austria the price of the 9800x3d is the same but they have a better salary. I gotta get the fuck outta here ASAP

>>103203737
X3D Threadrippers when?

>>103203739
dude, you have year round summer in my eyes. I'd bear with prices for that, you ahve no idea how expensive proper winters ae, you need thirty million changes of clothes, heating expenses, electrical expenses sky rocket in winter etc etc, proper 4 seasons suck your wallet dry.

>>103203737
>>103203738
k thanks

>>103203751
just use more blankets

>>103202007
It's the ab350 gaming 3, very low tier b350 board. But honestly, I have more issues with it than just the vrms. Has 1 m2 slot and shuts off half the sata ports when used. A much better b550 board like a tomahawk would cost me like 70 bucks on ebay, and that plus a $130 5700x3d is still less than I'd even pay for an am5 proc

Still thinking about going am5 anyways though, I want something I don't have to worry about for 4 years and have the ability to upgrade to a later am5 proc later on. This time I would not buy the literal cheapest mobo available

>>103202914
Many gamers play slop that won't work in linux like fortnite, valorant, etc. Muh anti cheat

>>103203474
the alienware 32 might also cost the same as the samsung in your region right now, plus you can get a student discount on dell for an extra -10%

>>103203495
>Then where are you getting this info from?
public information online and complaints up to this day

>MSI assumes user retardation and they're often right.
>Something that again OLED is not intended for
not my problem, asus has settings to remove all these for example

>>103203513
*pops up a pixel refresh notice in the middle of your competitive game*
*continues for the life or your panel constantly nagging you like your bitch ex wife sucking you dry of alimony and child payments*
KEEP SUCKING THAT MSI COCK

>>103203847
pro gaymers use tn monitors

>>103203854
pro gaymer teams use oleds and the snoy 480hz was developed for/with competitive gaymers
false
a hostile nagging firmware/osd that goes against the wishes of the consoomer is non forgivable
msi engineers must jump from the roofs

Can’t wait for the 5070 24GB….

>>103203862
>checks video footage of the latest esports events
>theyre all zowie monitors

>>103203862
>snoy 480hz
how clueless are you? it's LG panel.

>>103203854
>TN
Maybe 10 years ago

why do so many retards instantly jump for the garbage msi ventus and gigabyte eagle crap over sapphire/powercolor/asrock.

>>103203890
how clueless are you? its shenzhuan concern silicone

>>103203900
the same reason people over the age of 10 still play video gaymes
mental retardation

>>103203854
they use OLEDs now because of 0.1ms response time

>>103203883
first of all your comment was completely irrelevant to the subject at hand and had nothing to do with pro gamers at all
and assuming that it would be acceptable only under these conditions and that consoomers should enjoy game breaking and general quality of life degrading things like these shitty things
LOOK IT UP RETARDO, I'm not here to hand hold you anymore

>>103203890
the snoy monitor with the lg panel, look it up retardo

>>103203915
i looked up the monitors they use and theyre tn
not sure why youre mad just because you were wrong on 4channel

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>>103203847
>public information online and complaints up to this day

>>103203944
it was also revealed to me in a dream

>>103203923
>completely irrelevant point to subject matter
>is wrong
>failed his own iq test
>thinks he's right
can't make this shit up

>>103203944
KEEP SUCKING THAT MSI COCK

>>103203950
>is wrong
>pretends hes right
ngmi

>>103203950
you said pros use oled
they dont
its that simple

>>103203975
iq test failed

>>103203983
1) your original idea that it would become acceptable only under these conditions was inhumanly fucking retarded that you even brought this up in the first place that you adressed
2) you are now arguing something that is both wrong and retarded
3) I said pro teams use, not all teams in a professional tourney setting use 100% of the time
4) iq test failed again
NO SPOONFEEDING RETARDS

>>103203441
>>103203347
Bro your 360 coverage NSA/CIA/Mossad backdoor???

If I buy a low-end AM5 motherboard (for example, a Gigabyte B650M Gaming WiFi), will it bottleneck a 7950X? Even if it's undervolted?

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A few days ago I came here asking for a GPU recommendation for a 14yo family member, anon said gtx 1080 ti but I'm unsure and can't find a good price.
For a long time I used to have a 1070 which served me fine, I gave it to a buddy and he's still playing all kinds of titles with it.
Do ya'll think it's a good idea to buy another used 1070 for ~€100 to give to lil bro? Or should I be looking for another card, he really doesn't need the top of the line.

>>103204104
Probably

>>103204104
I think the gaming wifi thermaly throttles better am5 cpus. Hardware unboxed went through the budget am5 boards in this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naX-DnKekCM

I think they recommend the gigabyte DS3h most.

>>103204000
i said pro gaymers used tn here >>103203854
everything else is just you projecting
youre still wrong btw

>>103204113
current gen card in your price range. here problem solved.

>>103204135
But aren't current gen cards under ~200 a scam?

>>103204113
Nobody here cares about their age you disgusting pedophile.

>>103204140
What, when i was younger I didn't care about frames and graphics, I'm sorry if I made it sound weird but in my mind it made sense

Need help on picking a new mobo
>asrock x870 pro rs or upgrade to a Gigabyte x870 auorus elite

>>103204138
$200 your limit? oh, that's sad, try 3060 or something
1080ti is an oven.

>>103204159
Actually the limit is around ~100, hence the 1070 idea :(

>>103204165
1070 is a bad idea, try 5700xt

>>103204132
lets go back to the beginning, you insinuated that literally no pro ever would use oled, therefore it would be acceptable with retarded pixel refreshes

first of all, pros in tourneys use whatever the sponsors of the tourney put in to use
secondly, pros have their own setups at home
thirdly, https://prosettings.net/gear/lists/monitors/ you can find atleast a few oleds here lmao
fourthly, I recall from memory a reddit poster talking about a foreign pubg pro team that was using oleds (no source can be found)
fifth, https://youtu.be/zwCfOWi6d_c here and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEjRYgOf0yU here is the snoy 480hz monitor literally developed with and for the fnatic pro team

this had nothing to do with shitty firmware and osd on msi

Is it normal to regret all of my hardware choices and wish I got all different stuff?

>>103204241
no. you should've thought things through more.

>>103204244
I did, I was very picky and thought hard about everything. It will all work and should be good for years I think maybe it's just like when you date a girl and still wonder about the other girls, if their vagina is more pleasant. People do that right?

>>103204241
I feel that way after buying anything expensive. Knowing how much computer parts depreciate I just can't bring myself to want anything more than 300 bucks.

>>103204249
stop being a child and own up to your decisions.

>>103204272
I will, I just get this for a few weeks or months after spending $1k+ on a PC. Maybe I should have got a micro ATX, or a different brand of RAM, or a different CPU cooler. And I keep shopping for them but don't buy a new one. Like I hate my power supply cables, it's objectively a very good PSU, just the cables are very thick with nylon sheath makes it hard to route nicely. It doesn't matter right, once they're in they're in. It bothers me just thinking about it. But it doesn't bother me enough to buy another one, just enough to wish for another one. I will forget and stop caring soon.

Same thing happens when I buy a car. I compare it to my old car and every minor difference irritates me, and I start looking for cars more like my old car, and think hmm maybe I'd compromise on reliability to get daytime running lights (for example) but really my initial choice was probably the best, I'm just picky.

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backorders up on amazon
go forth
for me i'm stickin with my trust 12700k

>>103204376
Amazon doesn't really do backorders they just ship once it's available. But sometimes they forget to ship to you and you have to cancel your order, then reorder it and it comes in 2 days.

>>103203900
>msi ventus and gigabyte eagle
Make only Nvidia cards.
>sapphire/powercolor/asrock
Make only AMD cards, except Asrock also makes a few Intel ones.
So while you're right about the amount of retards it's not like they choose between MSI and Sapphire.

>>103204401
always wonder if Sapphire would make a ton of money if they made Nvidia cards

>every G-Sync OLED starts at $1,200 and goes up to $2,000

Why is Nvidia like this?

>>103204473
LG 48" oled on sale at Best Buy for $599
has freesync premium pro + gsync

>>103202334
I'm running 2560x1600 24"
I like how sharp text is even at 125% scaling in windows
for games I haven't noticed much of an improvement over 1920x1200 at the same size

>>103204376
Scam CPU unless you play at 1080p with a 4090
Spend $200 on a 13600k instead and free up $280 for a better gpu

>>103204489
i will be buying a 5090 and worrying about a cpu upgrade later

>>103203900
Better marketing. If ASRock linked up with NXZT's designers and poached a few marketers from Asus they'd probably be seen as the best company to buy from. ASRock needs better designs (just aesthetically speaking, no so much the implementation) and better marketing. I know what I'm saying is just dumb armchair CEO shit, but it is probably a winning strategy.

>>103203911
You mean 0.003 response time, saar.

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Just financed that dumb 32' LG 4k OLED that can go into 1080P and I'm having so much buyer remorse.
>Thought it came with the Corsair GAYMER bundle, it doesn't (lol you used your work discount, you don't get shit)
>1080p is apparently gimmicky
>no KVM switch or USB C (literally a non issue since I have my own USB switch and I no longer WFH, quick charging my phone would be nice)

Make my day worse, tell me reasons why it was a stupid fucking purchase.

>>103204534
Cancel it nigger

>>103204542
I paid with affirm and it seems like a fucking pain in the ass to cancel shit, like it's not going to ruin me financially (like at all lmao) but I'm still a little FUCK WHAT WAS I DOING I LITERALLY TOLD MYSELF LAST NIGHT I WOULD NOT GET IT.

>>103204534
You were rich enough to buy dual mode gimmick so don't be bothered

Why are motherboard manufacturers so cheap nowadays? I can't even get a physical manual with my $380 purchase. Would have been a $1-1.5 print at most.

>>103204534
if 1080p is an acceptable resolution to you, you shouldn't bother with 4k panels to begin with
imagine paying the 4k tax to play at PS3-tier resolutions
you do not bother with 4k at all unless you're autistic about pixels
and even if you have some dual use case for 1080p and 4k in which simply running 1080p on the 4k isn't acceptable, just get a regular 4k panel as well as a decent 1080p one, your GPU has multiple display ports for a reason

>>103204561
man im probably not even going to use 1080p, all I play are anime games and watch anime.... I just casually play fps but I really don't care for oooooOooo 480hz mlg gaming.
>>103204567
but 4k is probably going to be 95% of my use case and 1080p is going to be like 5% of my use case...

>order ass rock am4 motherboard
>order 5700x3d
>have to now worry about bios compatibility

The suspense is killing me. I ordered a new mobo, but I have no idea if it will have the latest bios on it.

>>103204569
>1080p is going to be like 5% of my use case
then just run 1080p on a regular 4k, not ideal but not unusable either

>>103204596
but i want funny 480hz mode for the finals

>>103204423
Just go ask XFX how that would work out.

>>103204577
You only buy 5700X3D if you already have an AM4 system that you can update the BIOS of. Are you returded?

>>103204501
> If ASRock linked up with NXZT's designers
I would no longer buy ASrock then. Don't want my hardware to look gay.

I know you need to run DDU if you go from one GPU brand to another, but what about if I go AMD -> AMD or Nvidia -> Nvidia? Do I need to reinstall?

>>103204487
>2560x1600 24"
>1600
NAME
NOW

>>103203746
When you can afford them.

>>103204712
Now you tell me.

>>103203705
Trump Tariffs will fix that soon.
Can't wait for it.

>>103203635
> I am 20cm away from a monitor
You should triple this distance.

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does it matter if a PSU is titanium rated on Cybenetics in atx 3.0 but isn't on the 3.1 list at all? specifically looking forward at the 50 series launch

>>103204745
In theory, no. In practice, just do it to avoid any potential issues. You only have to do it once and takes five minutes.

>>103204775
You're right. Maybe its fine but I think Windows Registry fucks up.

>>103203392
If (you) don't know if it's worth then it's not. Why are zoomers unable to judge the worth of anything on their own? Why do they always need the confirmation of the herd?

>>103204473
those are all freesync and have no gsync modules
nvidia had nothing to do with the price of them

>>103204241
you bought an amd gpu didn't you?

>>103202334
>everything gets tinier

>>103204487
>forced to use scaling and fucking everything up
there is a reason there is like 1 monitor like this in the market

>>103204534
I read something about it having edge dimming and causing vignetting and shit, don't feel bad, it's the monitor Optimum tech uses, aren't you as chaddy as him?!
if you aren't gonna use 1080p mode you could have gotten any of the qdoled ones instead
if you needed the hz you could also have gotten 1440p480
it's a specific niche where you need workflow 4k + mah 480hz gaymin, plus I heard the 1080p switch can be buggey and fuck up
but every single fucking monitor has problems and is shit in one way or another anyway where you go so

>financed

>Use RTX HDR on a few games
>Oh hey it looks neat
>Bro just use this NVTrueHDR instead and bring down the quality so it doesn't have an FPS impact
>Ok I guess
>Don't bother with that just use AutoHDR and force it with this tool
>...
>RTX HDR is still better I pinky promise
>Doesn't work on certain older games, only forced AutoHDR works
>AutoHDR and RTX HDR cannot coexist so I can't just have the games that only support AutoHDR with it working and the RTX HDR ones with RTX HDR
Why is this so needlessly complicated?
Why must Windows operate this way? And why do different games use different gamma settings by default? Why are there 7 different tools to tweak HDR? I just want high fucking lights, nothing more

>4070 Super is more expensive than it was a month ago
Oh great, now they'll try to pass off regular pricing as "Black Friday deals".

>>103204859
Happens everytime, never ever wait for cuck friday

>>103204831
i mean heyy what's the difference between 0% interest over 5 months compared to one lump sum. neve really get why people get so autistic about 0% financing. just keep track of it and you don't get fucked. worse case scenario i can pay it off all at once. but make me feel even worse damn it.

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Is a 7mm gap really enough for air to pass or is alphacool taking the piss here?

Is there any risk with using Afterburner's power limit feature like crashing?

>>103204846
>Why is this so needlessly complicated?
hdr in windows 10 was half baked. any app that made their hdr for windows 10 in mind have garbage hdr as a result. devs never bothered to go back and fix their shit when it was fixed in windows 11. so you end up with situations where auto hdr looks better than in-game hdr toggle.

>>103204712
An am4 mobo is like 70 bucks anon, maybe less. That plus a 130 5700x3d puts you at the cost of a 7600x cpu on its own. If he already has ddr4 ram it's still a good deal

>>103204905
I'm at the point at which RTX HDR is pissing me off the most. Everyone claims it's the best solution but all the advantage I'm seeing is that I have an overlay that lets me tweak settings on it while having no support in a few games (just some stupid "restart the game to make it work" shit) and there's a performance hit. And claims that it does some debanding on the default very high quality which is why there's a performance drop but I'm still seeing the same fucking banding anyways.
It's a mess, I'm just waiting for this shit to work well on linux. For now I guess I just won't bother with RTX HDR and use AutoHDR/native everywhere instead. Fuck the nvidia bloat.

>>103204534
Doesn't seem like there's anything wrong with it. Just keep it and stay in 4k 240hz. Also get a powered hub if you care about quick charge.

>>103204752
BenQ RD240Q or SW242Q, I have the former
>>103204831
Honestly I feel like I could use it without scaling but my eyes are not very good. Someone with better eyesight most likely could
I'm still very happy with it despite the scaling, it's really nice for working with text documents etc, the only program I have that doesn't play too well with scaling is Writemonkey 2.7

>>103204973
oh wait... I just saw the price comparison in a non-dual 4k 240hz.

Yea I'd definitely return if possible. 240hz is enough to be a pro epic gamer.

>>103204501
In that case just buy NZXT motherboards. I heard they're pure Asrock made inside with NZXT developed look.

>>103204938
Its a per game thing. Some respond better to RTX HDR while others respond better to AutoHDR. In most cases you're better off with AutoHDR since its a OS level call so it plays nicer with anti cheats and modded games.

7600x vs 7600x3d? Is it worth paying the extra 130ish for the x3d cpu? I assume 9600 is just not any noticeable difference to even be in the conversation

>>103204973
god damn it make me hate living. i'm out of ports at my computer desk and i don't want to risk another power extension cord in case my house catches on fire.

>>103204988
ehhh i mean honestly what are they in CAD now a days? 1000-1200k? oled? (remember i used my work discount) so it's not too bad....i think. like technically i paid less for this than the alienware and galaxy 4k oleds in canada town because of my discount.

>>103205014
>i think. like technically i paid less for this than the alienware and galaxy 4k oleds in canada town because of my discount.
Oh, in that case it's a win-win. I would just keep it man. It's not like it's a bad monitor, it just has an gimmick feature.

>Check motherboard manual and site
>Nothing about bifurcated lanes
I see people bring it up a lot but I see nothing about it for my board. Is it a problem with the cheaper ones?

Want to get a 32" OLED but I keep reading about VRR flicker. I have two OLED TV's (CX and B3) and have never noticed any flicker when gaming on my PS5. Is it just much more noticeable on PC monitors due to the distance to the screen, generally higher framerates or is there any other reason that almost all monitor reviews mention it but it doesn't seem to be mentioned at all for TV's?

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I thought 4chin told me trump's tarrifs were a meme and not going to change anything? Why are gpu manufacturers panicking?

>>103205050
No one on 4chan said they were a meme. Everyone has been screaming from the rooftops to get your upgrades in now or make peace with your decision.

>>103205063
can't exactly get a 5080 now desu

>>103204974
>RD240Q or SW242Q
Oh, seems to be not yet available in my country, thanks.

Where the fuck are all the good 1080p monitors? I just need something with good colors and 240hz -- I dont want to pay fucking 400$ for that shit

>>103205050
I'm glad they're moving now instead of later. Should save us a decent amount of heartache.

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>>103204773
anyone? just wanna confirm before i pull the trigger on the fsp hydro ti pro

>>103205006
I asked a similar question last night. If you're on a right budget it's apparently better to get the 7600x and spend the extra money on your GPU. If you're not on a budget for either components get the x3d.

>>103205045
It's framerate fluctuations.
While a lot of games on consoles these days suffer from framerate issues they're still optimized to a point where they're not supposed to go between framerates like 50 to 100 very rapidly. Normally you'd want to avoid this regardless of whichever display you're using anyways. But you're asking VRR to handle that situation and on IPS it's just not a problem at all whereas on practically any other type of display there's some flickering to different degrees.
Basically it shouldn't worry you if say, you're playing a game that can reach 80, and sometimes drops to 75 or 70. That's not a big deal. If you have crazy framerates still below your refresh rate (some OLEDs can do 360hz or 480hz), you can just cap that shit. If you have high framerates past the refresh rate, that's out of VRR range anyways, so you're not supposed to get any flickering.
I only notice flickering in loading screens in a few games. There's this tendency for those to run at really weird framerates.

>>103202134
What GPU should I upgrade to in my laptop? Currently rocking the RTX 2070. It's still a decent GPU but I have excess cash burning a hole.
I've got an i7-10750H.
>inb4 just buy a new one
I don't want to spend a grand or more for an incremental upgrade.
>inb4 build a desktop you casual
I travel for work and fly often, that's not feasible.

>>103205045
wait until ces 2025 for the new oleds coming

>>103205072
4090 is the equivalent

Samsung Odyssey G6 - OLED.

Is it good? It's 12% off right now at my local shithole store.

>>103205050
No one can know for sure. Maybe Musk says to him he doesn't want his datacenter GPUs to cost more and suddenly there is an exception.

>>103205116
not in the mood to compromise because of american faggotry

>>103205122
pretty sure I saw it lower on amazon last month. I'd wait.

>>103205105
>>103204773
either one is fine, the guy has an article about this
https://hwbusters.com/quick-tips/should-i-get-an-atx-v3-1-psu-or-an-atx-v3-0-will-be-fine-everything-you-need-to-know/

>>103205106
I already have a 3070 I'm carrying over to this new build so the gpu budget is not even in the question. I just don't know if it's actually a big difference since I game at 1440p

>>103205050
Even if they're not as big as he is claiming you will still be paying more next year vs now

>>103205050
is it that easy to just move all your shit to another country like that?

Never had a monitor with a hub built into it and I am looking at buying one that comes with that feature. If I attach a mouse or keyboard to them, will the computer detect those things even though it's connected via HDMI/DisplayPort to the GPU? Or are these merely external peripheral stuff like phone charging, and so on.

>>103205155
Do you have a specific budget for just the CPU? I was told a lot of games don't even gain much from x3d, some do quite a bit. If you're not starved for cash I'd get a 7800x3d once the prices drop thanks to the 9800x3d launch.

>>103205178
No and that's why this reaction from ZOTAC should have you consoomers very worried about what prices will look like next year

>>103204892
It's ok

>>103205188
you plug a usb cable from the monitor to the pc
now those usb slots on your monitor will be detected by the pc

its not magic nigga it has to make sense

>>103204904
Just changing the power limit is unlikely to cause crashing unless it is boosting very aggressively and getting fucked by voltage. Rare but it can happen.

>>103205050
That export restriction probably has to do with selling RTX 5090 and 5080 to China, not the United States tariffs.
Read the article ffs.
>As mentioned, there are two main reasons why ZOTAC’s owner has made such a significant undertaking.
>The first is the restrictions on high-performance GPU imports into China and Hong Kong.
>One should note that tariff rumors were not the primary reason.