How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wikihttps://rentry.org/iemgazette>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Klean (bassy neutral) - $50• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Fosi Audio DS2 2024 (CS43131) - $45• Tanchjim Space - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• FiiO JM21 - $200• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200Previous thread: >>103215003
Today I went grocery shopping while listening to my jm-1 eq'd sliivo and it was a great experience.
Remember to bewitch your IEM.
remember to buy bnnuy
>headphones can last decades with just pad changes>iems last only a few yearsExplain.
>>103227103this is a fucking trashjew cabal wtfthe trannies are controlling this general and everyone's content with their propaganda and perverse tendencies of manipulation. TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIVES AND IEMG, STOP LETTING THESE FUCKASS TRANSSHIT SPIES PUPPETEER YOU
>>103227172Shut up goy, you WILL buy the transjim and you WILL take HRT.
>>103227166skill issueand the baffle and acoustic materials on hps will degrade over time and you can't replace it
>>103227172Jim is a cool guy, bringing real innovation to the hobby, like legos and plushies.
>>103227185Firmware update will be released on BTR19.
Posting this again in new thread lolI'm stuck between Letshuoer A08 and Kefine Klean....ok I already bought the Klean but it's not going to be here for another week or two. I just got an Amazon gift card, the S08 is available through Amazon Prime and I've never heard a planar before. I'm treble sensitive and generally prefer warm-tilted IEMs, hence my avoidance of planars up to this point but the S08 looks very interesting and is exactly the value of my gift card ($100).Bought the Klean due to not having bought into an IEM meme since the Tripowin Mele and I fucking broke one of those. You can't buy them anymore and I felt they were comfortable and good for laid back listening. The Klean seems to be similar in the low end but has more detail in the treble (something I did find lacking in the Mele), but the S08 is just very interesting to me. Looks nicer, too.I guess the Klean is coming my way anyway as I'm not going to even attempt the nightmare that would be initiating a return to Aliexpress, but what's the /iemg/ verdict on the Letshuoer S08?
>>103227269They are okay as far as planars go, it's warm-leaning so there's less planar timbre. More importantly, stop pussyfooting and just fucking buy them. You're just shitting up the thread and begging for someone to give you the proverbial 'okay'.
>>103227269I grant you the proverbial "Okay".Now go forth my Child, now blessed with the pre-purchase validation of Our Father (Jim).
>>103227269>prefer warm-tilted IEMs>my avoidance of planarsplanars are so warm they're near muddy.
>>103227269>actually considering the S(hit)08fuckin kek
>>103225955so nobody has tried this pos huh
Any opinions on aigo eros q vs hifi walker h2 vs surfans f20? What are the differences?
>>103227166>iems last only a few yearsFuck is this true? Do they just die or what?
>>103227559it seems like some anons don't take care of their shit at all and the housings crack and/or they clog the nozzles
>>103227477Our guy Jays audio might have done a video on it.
>>103227320>You're just shitting up the thread and begging for someone to give you the proverbial 'okay'.And not get as much input as possible before I buy something?I understand how these threads work and I understand that most people are talking out of their ass from what other reviewers say and FR graphs show, NOT from personal experience of actually owning the fucking thing. THAT'S what I'm asking for.Also, as far as "shitting up the thread"...>>103227172>>103227177etc. *aren't* "shitting up the thread"? But my 2nd post of *one* question is?I guess /iemg/ is for schizos screaming about trannies and jews, not discussion of IN-EAR MONITORS you monumentally repugnant, retarded FAGGOT.>>103227431As far as I understood planars generally present brighter than they measure, and that's part of the "planar timbre" What you just said flies in the face of everything else I've seen. Is that your experience?>>103227439Thanks for the (You)
Daily reminder that techs are stored in the distortion.
>>103227571Shit I've never thought about caring for mine aside from not throwing them against the wall and dipping them in cow shit.
>>103227573gaysaudio talks about sound quality and nothing else, might as well listen to radio static >>103227584>I understand how these threads work and I understand that most people are talking out of their ass from what other reviewers say and FR graphs showanons in the last thread already gave you their thoughts about important stuff (comfort/fit, general sound, etc), the rest you can do with graphs and shit, stop being retarded>As far as I understood planars generally present brighter than they measureno, people are absurdly bad at relating their own experience to real life. someone can hear something bright and describe it as having bad timbre or being too detailed, audiophools are retarded.anon is joking, most planars have relatively high treble
>>103227559I've been wearing audiophile tier iems since brainwavz m2. That's over a decade ago. Small drivers do seem to die out quicker than ones from headpos. When I say "die", I'm including things like audio imbalance as well.
>>103227660>gaysaudio talks about sound quality and nothing elseYeah because you have eyes for the rest.
bug or feature? your pos might be doing this too
>>103227811Multidriver pos moment.
>>103227811its output impedance
>>103227811Your pos might be doing this.
>>103227811>high OI jack>multidriver posbros, stick to DDs (and only exceptionally planars)>>103227834>called variations>variations based on volumeoh my sides
At least your pos isn't doing this.
>>103227834Some IEM's FR changes with linearity, that's why you should never take squigs at face value
>>103227811>>103227834>>103227883How I sleep knowing 1DD doesn't do this.
>>103227584Stop whining bitch
>>103228015I'll kill you faggot
>>103228083I'll rape you first
>>103227811>iphone 3.5
>>103226864I got my Deuce pos mid-october but it arrived without any promised early backer bonus. I sent them an email 3 weeks ago regarding this issue and it is still total radio silence since then. Which is a shame, as it comes with Tri Clarion eartips in stock and they sound total ass, unlike wide bores.
>>103228103fatfreq has a bad rep locally in their country, you guys got fleeced by NGGAR
>>103228098Zoom closer.
>>103228139I wanted to buy a fartfreq after demoing scarlets a while ago, but couldn't justify dropping 500$ on a gimmick tuned pos.Then came the DEUCE which is even cleaner and bassier and doesnt have meme drivers so I pulled the trigger, had nothing to do with NGGAR. This situation aside it is a really fun set and probably the comfiest UIEM shell I tried so far (although the nozzle is quite thick so earlets probably should stay out).
>>103227811also recent from ourguy tony. soundrhyme kilopos with unpredictable response between different dacs
How is Lime Ears regarded in the community? Do they have any notable iems?
I dont think I have seen anybody talk about that brand here before
>>103228521as anon said, rather obscure brand pos seem to measure from decent to downright bizarre
>>103228672>>103228684i was hoping some canjam goer to have auditioned some of their pos and was able to share
>>103227627you're not wrong, they're also stored in the peaks, that's why technical pos are peak of sound
>>103227627>>103229266KZ has distortion and peaks but zero techs.
xistas, techs are stored in the hrt...
>>103229310techs are stored in the long dick, that's why etymodicks are so technically capable
>>103229278KZ wish they could get the techs that Campfire could get with the same drivers and $3,300.
>>103229339anybody have sauce on the original pic? I would like to masturbate to it please
>>103229573sadly no sir I am unable to can provid you sir the sauce because I have it from here
>>103227117Weird and honestly pathetic>>103229573I have the sauce, but I'm not sharing it
>>103229684You got no sauce stop fronting.
>>103229573Artist is Gatyo 5, the original art has xenoblade characters.
>>103229699>cooperative face-jobnow that is one hell of a rare tag
>>103229699seems to be correct answer, thanks
My 7hz Zero2 came in and I gotta say, I think I've been redpilled on iems.I need to try some different tips cuz I'm not sure I'm getting a great seal, but they sound amazing. On par with any full size headphone I've ever tried. Will have to experiment with EQ as well, but these have a great tuning out of the box. Not sure if the comfort will compete with my headphones, but I'll take em to work tomorrow and wear em for a few hours to see.
>>103229790okay good now post your music so we can judge you
>>103225187ayo nigga lemmi ask again. where da fuck you get this shi from?
>>103225964It's a gacha machine:D
>>103229977im so FUCKING JEALOUS FUCK MY LIFE I WANT THIS SELL THIS SHIT HIFIGOOK
>>103229977Where do you even get this
>>103229952Preorder bonus from my local distributor
>>103229977ayo gimmi dat shiii
>poorfags get all the goodies, low shipping times, no tariffsalright time to move
>>103229977kilobuck could never. legendary asano tanch does it again.
>>103229856Primarily a metal listener, and I use albums I'm used to test new stuff, especially those by producers whose work I'm familiar with. So far I've jammed: Cattle Decapitation, Aborted, Periphery, Dying Fetus, and Undeath.
>>103230041>metal listenerah that explains it lmao
remember to read the eq guide for optimal acoustic performance!
>>103229977why cant we have nice things too, bros...
>>103230041I need to listen Periphery once again
>>103230146They're great, and amazing live. Not that you mongs see live music.
https://mora.jp/package/43000074/TCJPR0000847987/found the album but uh was this album never released in lossless?
>>103229952>>103229996oh yeah, to be more specific, i got it from my Bnnuy
>>103230228nvm found it, thx to that anon from previous thread
>>103230396>upscaled yt rip anon...
>>103230466I can hear the hi-rez techz tho...
>>103230466it genuinely helps cope with having a minimum phase DAC
Hello again anons. A few days back i posted about a free dongle that i was getting from amazon, and it showed up today. it said it was capable of 32bit/394 khz, and i verified that today on my pc. The driver shows up here as "KM-HIFI-384KHZ" and apparently with some brief research dongles like the abigail also show up the same way. Safe to say if that's the case that the chip inside this thing is the CX31993? Pic Related
>>103230956measure the waveform on a scope
>>103230979i do not have the equipment to measure my cheap chinese pos driver
>>103231032why not?
>>103227172ur overthinking too much!buy a bnnuy and relax uwu
Do you all also use headphones and speakers? Or is it iems all the time?
>>103231035because this was free and the equipment to measure costs 28 thousand dollars
reminder
>>103231210iems 99% of the timemy main usage for my hp now is after a shower when I wait for my hair and ear canals to dry out I've tried to main speakers but i listen to metal and lotta cringe stuff, also i didn't like the lack of privacy and having to turn it down past 10pm bc of neighbors so it's reserved mostly for movies
Dawn arrived. Not as good as EDCP when A/B.The lack of ear loop stiffeners makes it confusing every time you pick it up.Sound is still good. If you are buying for mass gifting the +$2 for EDCP isn't worth it for new listeners. The +$2 is worth it if you are going to daily drive.
>>103231328another day, another kz slop
>>1032312102.0 speakers at desk, 5.1 in living room, IEMs everywhere else or if FPS gayming>headposIn their containment crate
>>103231390I think that might be where I'm heading. I've got a 2.1 setup at my home and office desks, a 2.0 in the living room, tws on the go. But have generally used headphones otherwise.Got my first decent set of iems and it's making my headphones feel expendable.
>>103231256Who's this guy?
>>103231430did you assume they gender?!?
>spam filters block my consoom posthmph, anyways post your 11.11 haul
>>103231973Just bought another set of TRN MT5, and a cable. Will probably get another IEM too.
>>103231973Bought a fiio ja11 and another pair of space travels
>>103231973>hifi usb cable
>>103227559my $0($6000 value) MH1c from 2010 still worksyou'll zoomers are still underage when i first got the MH1c
>>103231256Reminder to ignore everyone that has less than 12dB bass shelf.
>>103231210Speakers at home, IEMs outside. If I can't use speakers I still prefer IEMs over headphones. In fact I couldn't get good tuning from headphones with EQ until I built my speaker setup. They're that off the mark.
>>103230041>>103230047>metal listenerhearing damage confirmed.
>>103227103totally scientific & threadly /iemg/ bass poll cont.https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWeVbWnAthe gap between bass slope and bask scoop widens.flat bass enjoyers also gaining ground.
>>103233617there's a healthy middle ground between harman tranny tuck and a straight slope, monarch mk2 corresponds to 5128 diffuse field with a speakers in room room curve, the amount of subbass corresponds to trained listeners preference>We have preferences for trained and untrained listeners. They mostly agree. A small percentage of the untrained like a little more bass. If you want the trained listener Target Curve turn down the bass 2-3 dB.https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/headphones-and-the-harman-target-curve.17914/post-811447
>>103233797>keeps quoting speaker research to justify his deafness>never finished level 1 of training
>>103233815harman beta 2024 goes even lower in the bass than what i prefer
>>103233825And it sucks. No big surprise. Everything derived from 5128 sucks. It's a fundamentally broken rig, particularly in bass.
>>103233834that's why i posted the 711 graph >>103233797crinacle's 5128 measurements are useless for bass
>>103233849I have nothing against monarch other than its meme drivers. I'm saying you're using the quote about speakers when the preference is opposite for IEMs.
>>103233858https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/headphones-and-the-harman-target-curve.17914/page-12#post-811934
>>103233868Read a book.
then with different normalization of this graph you can imagine raising the black curve so the lower mids are less scooped
>>103233876cope
>>103233887Nigger.
>>103233892the scoop on variations or nova is exaggerated so people think they don't like a scoop at all, but using straight tilted diffuse field/JM-1 is an overreaction, you can do something in between like monarch mk2
>>103233908>>103233858>>103233876
>>103233913>>103233868>>103233877
>>1032339292019 book > 2016 slide >>>>>> blog post.
>>103231256Bro that EQ profile is certified hearing loss, do not even try it. 5kHz higher than the bass, are you fucking kidding.
Reminder that mids don't exist.
Give me a reason why I shouldn't buy the Simgot supermix 4, my current samsung buds are close to the harman curve so that doesn't bother me.
Techs are basically how accurately a pos can reproduce the FR that was present when recording the track. The better the FR closely matches to the source FR, the better the techs.
>>103234178Techs are by definition unrelated to the FR. So the less you know about the FR the more techs you hear.
>>103234163Give me a reason why you should. Only buy something when you determined the issues in your current gear and found something that doesn't have them.
>>103234212The lack of wires is a huge issue.
>>103234195>the less you know about the FR the more techs you hear.*headfi left the chat*
>>103234195they are partly related to the FRsoundstage and note weight are among techs and yet are largely tied to the FR, same with the link between FR smoothness / treble extension and detail level
>>103234212The samsung buds are TWS and like 4 years old at this point, they were basically first gen usable wireless earbuds. I wanted to get some really good ones for indoor use. I've seen the supermix 4 recommended a lot recently especially things other than music like gaming. That's why I'm interested in them in peculiar
>>103234262rockin' my FE, they're very good when I need the wireless alternative to pos for example when I ride a bike, its single DD is in my experience as good as samdung/akg's standard 2DD setup, quite techy and surprisingly bassy when you get a good seal which I managed to do with both stock tips and spinshits cp1025
>>103234262Original galaxy buds are actually not super close to harman, buds+ are. I'd say buds have warmer sound than supermix but I don't think you'll regret it.
Why would you ever invest in a ticking time bomb that fits inside your ear?
>>103234412I invest only in time bombs I can arm again after it goes boom, that's why I buy ONLY twshit with replaceable batteries without cracking the shell open or soldering, other than that I much prefer wired pos
Should I use aliexpress to get a dac or is better to with amazon?I don't know how is the counterfeits' market diffused.I'm looking for a fiio ka11
>>103234623Where do you live?
>>103234631Italybtw usb 3 ports with an adapter should be able to power them, right?
>>103234623no counterfeits, fiio has a link to their official aliexpress store on their website>>103234638yes
>>103234623just make sure you buy it from the "FiiO official store" and it won't be fakewith amazon you can always return it if it's a fake though
Is there a cheaper alternative for this 64audio dual-iem case? No way I'm paying $120 for that.
>>103234968Why there are chinese words on my American pos?
>>103227122https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3LNi-aPXuc
>>103234968I'm 3d printing my own caseyou can get a generic rugged case with some foam inserts
>>103234968Left pocket, right pocket.
Resurrecting my old arias. What are those bluetooht receiver cables I'm seeing on ali, are they usable? I can't seem to find one with a recessed pin design that looks like it would be compatible with them
>>103235048I tried a couple, the old ones with csr something chips had a slight hiss, a newer one with qc5125 and ldac support had a constant tinnitus tone and distortion, lc-bt2 were absolute hiss monsters. Haven't tried the newest generic qc5185 cables, troon/kz cables and littlewhite.
What difference does linear phase / minimum phase make?
>>103233549>hearing damage confirmedThankfully not, I've worn ear plugs at every show I've been to since I was a teenager.
>>103235172For DAC filters:No difference. Manufacturers sometimes make different filters have slightly different volume to make you hear a difference, unrelated to what filters do. They can also have different slopes. so if you can hear around 20kHz you might hear one filter have slightly more treble than the other. But if the slope and the volume are equal there's no audible difference between linear and minimum phase. Mathematically the difference is pic related + linear phase has some latency. but orders of magnitude lower than from USB.For filters in general:It can matter when you're mixing two different signals, minimum phase can cause unexpected cancellations where linear phase would not. But linear phase could cause audible pre-echo on very sharp low frequency filters. There are use cases for both. Also the latency of linear phase can become noticeable
>>103235307just where exactly is this latency found?
>>103235337Linear phase filters are symmetrical so they'll delay the signal by the half of their length. Look up how convolution works to understand. Minimum phase filters start right away, they can also be implemented without convolution, much faster computationally and what 99% of EQ software uses. DAC filters are usually very short, even DSP monsters like minidsp flex can at most delay the signal by 2048 samples(0,04s for 48kHz audio).
>>103235217Based
>>103235217not want to genre shaming, but all of my metalhead friends are high volume enjoyers, they literally turn it up to eleven whenever they can. i guess metal music isn't the kind of genre that is enjoyable at low volume. metal music also typically lack dynamic range because of the intentional distortion and "brickwalling".the hearing damage is even worse if you actually play in a metal band, especially if you're drummer. i know a drummer who cant even tell if his car's engine is turned on or not because he can't hear the hum.
>>103235447Truly. It's all thanks to my buddies dad. We were having band practice in a garage just obscenely loud when we probably 13. He came in and saw we weren't wearing ear plugs and told us were gonna wreck our hearing, got some plugs after that and never looked back.Owe that dude a huge amount of credit, saved me a lifetime of tinnitus and hearing loss.
>>103235533>all of my metalhead friends are high volume enjoyers, they literally turn it up to eleven whenever they can.I don't think that's an unfair characterization, but a lot of normies do that for any genre. I enjoy my metal at low volumes, but I may be an outlier.Most drummers I worked with usually wore hearing protection, especially when playing in a smaller room.
>>103235533>>103235644only tangentially related, but when you audition new pos, you should always listen at high volume to check for sibilance and distortion. I've been burnt many times by friends who told me a pos sounded fine but only because they listened at low volume
>>103235715single DD chads and planar bros don’t have to worry about this
How expensive of a headphone do I need to get before it's better than my $20 POS?I prefer the IEM sound, but headphones are comfier to me for longer sessions.
>>103235853mudheiser he1 and that costs like $59,000 but even that is marginal improvement over $20 wanker
>>10323585312$ the kc75 btfo basically all IEM POS at any price range
When looking for a case to transport my IEM do I have to look for anything in particular?This case is the cheapest I found, is it good enough?The dimensions of the interior are 70 x 65 x 20mm
>>103236084>70 x 65 x 20mmthat's a little small. you'll have to wrap your iem's pretty tight to fit in thatthe soft case that came with my IEMs are 80x80mm and it barely fits
>>103236084Might be too small if you're using a thick 4-core braided cable. I'd suggest getting one of Pelican's 1010 cases, this is what I use for storing kilopos.
Etymodicks ER2XR have arrived, they're much more comfortable than I thought they'd be, the meme deep fit is not that scary and actually comparable to shoving likes of Truthear Hexa deep inside my ear canals with small tips, if anything additional flanges make the fit much more stablesoundwise it's slightly dark neutral but with unveiled, sparkly air in ranges it can generate, the near-perfect seal it offers makes it actually bassy which may be the factor that makes the sound seem darkish, the soundstage is intimate but it's not non-existent, I can catch up spatial cues quite preciselyoverall I'm very satisfied so far and for what I managed to quickly listen to on this pos I'm confident it's a very solid all-rounder that will just take whatever genre I throw at it, even badly mastered songs are surprisingly bearable on it
>>103236084XINHS cases are the best
>>103235925Even EQ can't save this garbage.
>>103236171so true sis!!
>>103236211I dont think even God can if he tried
>>103231114WHERE THE FUCK IS BNUY
>>103236226Jim is busy with final stages of his detransition, just wait a bit more
behead all tanchposters
>>103235925>>103235925I haven’t listened to the ksc75 but there ain’t no way bruv. >objectively no subbass>slightly emphasized upper mids>more resonances and peaks and dips in treble “””low res”””
>>103236238I have a feeling that the Taint switched gears and joined them
>>103236171>>103236218>XINHS casesI can't find them for sale, only 1 seller on AliExpress which is out of stock>>103236108>>103236114Alright will look for others, thanks!
>>103236278just buy a cheap cable from their store
>>103235853LCD-GX with headband mod and custom EQ profile is about 90% as good as fox IEM. Haven't found anything better.
>>103236253Wise decision(if it happened).
>>103236559>headband modwould it sound as good without it?
>>103236710No.
>>103233617tranny tuck xisters...are we going to lose out to flat-basslets?>/iemg/ majority preference is certified as mud enjoyersits over.
>>103236166proof on the pic, now I'm officially allowed to have unlimited blowjobs by Yuki and Tanch
>>103236760more like note weight enjoyers
new EA500 DSP ! omg it looks sexy !https://www.linsoul.com/products/simgot-ea500-dsp
>>103236979where's the BAs?
>>103236979holeee FUARK! new endgame!
>>103236979Screws!!Funny that some /mkg/ products have so many mounting style just to avoid using screws, while pos embracing it
>>103237013In the trash.
>>103236979what's the point of DSP when there's no app and PEQ? tanchsistas are just superior
>>103237038>they want $80 for 1DD IEMs
>>103236979I bet the only reason they even have DSP is to appease the trannies with their bass(penis) tuck.
>>103237088no surprise bochitroons like meme drivers
>>103237142idiotstraight old men like Ryoutroons like Kita
>bocchi the reddit
So I finally caved and copped one of Tyvan’s POS, the Libra X…Credit where credit is due. They are nice.Very clean sound without being overly lean, harsh or shouty. The treble is quite extended. This is like an upgraded Chu(OG) in terms of sound. Build is decent enough and they’re comfyThis is a good monitoring set with treble that shits over headPOS, not that that is saying much.
>>103229790OP here. Been ABing the Zero2 against my DT880s with EQ, and I am amazed. The Zero2 sounds better. The mids are clearer and I can hear more detail overall. Bass quantity is comparable, but the Zero2 is tighter.Not sure if it's just the honeymoon period, but I may sell all my headphones and stick with iems or speakers.
>>103237342Now you realize those that say $20 iems are comparable to $100 headphones isn't just a meme.
2 weeks till tariffs hit, buy bnuuy now or live to regret it
>>103237463tariffs don't impact you transzo
When did /iemg/ get so negative
>>103237463>2 weeks till tariffs hitwhere?
>>103237463Your lord has no power over me
Asano a beesh! Why no shiroi love in iemg??
>>103237750shiroi got CRINGED
>>103237750You might need more Gates
>>103236770>the new version with the soft/slick silicone ear tipspeople talk shit about KZ for their stealth revisions, but why is nobody talking about Ety changing their stock eartips? altho to be fair, Ety's revision actually makes the iem better if you like slightly more bass. inb4 eartips doesnt matter because the ER series is one of the iems where the eartips really matters. the old version came with a stiff/frosted eartip, which is less bassier because it doesnt seal as well as the new one.
>>103237555>When did /iemg/ get so negative/iemg/ got negative when they discovered the $2 blue vido mogs their kilobuck pos
>>103237555I will say /iemg/ is one of the more positive and high valued (unironically) generals here on the entire website
>>103237750Asano HATES THAT WHORE
>>103237750can you cum on the boxes and post a pic? you will be forever crowned as the transjim king of /iemg/
>>103237750ffm with asano and shiroi
>>103237750>mfw I have the angel bunny magical girl IEM
>>103227811Regarding this, people said something about output impedance (>>103227823) and multidriver pos (>>103227822). I connect my iems (and active speakers) directly to my mainboard. Someone also posted an image recently that showed that different mainboards can have wildly different output impedance. I only have 1DDs except for Hexa, and those Hexas do sound brighter than any of my other iems. Could it be possible that they would sound different (that is, closer to my 1DDs) when using an external dac? I'm thinking of buying an audio interface now, but I don't know whether I really need one. If it would make the Hexa sound less bright, like in the quoted pic, then it might be worth it.>>103234118This is an interesting observation. When eqing to change tonality (as opposed to fix issues like room modes or resonances), I basically only use low- and highshelf filters, and most of the time apply a negative gain. Everything is relative anyway, so I try to think of the mids as fixed, and adjust bass and treble to match it. Which can be tricky, because changing treble levels also affects perception of bass. For example, reducing upper treble often leads to more impact / note weight, for lack of a better word. I prefer this approach, instead of trying to increase bass levels.
>>103237898my sides >>103237972>Could it be possible that they would sound different (that is, closer to my 1DDs) when using an external dac?probably, hexas have a non-linear impedance that tilts brighter which matches your experience (picrel)
>>103238007That's quite a difference, and could very well be the difference that I'm hearing. I need to learn more about output impedance and what it means if iems have non-linear impedance, do you have a link or care to give a qrd? Do audio interfaces / external dacs usually have the same output impedance? Imagine I buy one and my Hexa gets even brighter.
>>103227865Is this the guy who shilled those ear dildos relentlessly back in the early 2020s?
>>103238065this is the standard reference, suitable for everyone and directly relevant to audiohttps://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
>>103238202This is perfect, thank you! Bookmarked this and will read it later.
>>103238111no that was sharur an arguably even more schizophrenic and mentally ill person.…the world of audio is a dark place
>>103237898>high valuedWe have a 100 posters per thread but barely any first impressions/review posts. it's just same old shitflinging repeated ad nauseam
>>103238288>100 posterswho's telling me?
Huuh my Chu 2 got clogged, I replaced the filters with a generic 500 density mesh and I actually like it more than before now.
>>103237389What headpos should I get that compete with my $20 IEM?I already have DT880/770, PortaPros that anon mentioned, and HD600s. Haven't ABed the Zero2 with the latter 3 yet.
>>103238288I'm a coping poorfag but whenever I do comsoom from big sales I make sure to post impressions and details or if anybody wants to know more about that specific pos. I can safely assume that rest of you if not all do just the same and for that alone I will say it's a bretty descent general.
>>103238288thats what a pagpag-class3-kilopos-1DD-linearphase-mudnog-retard-transjimmy-xister-EQ-untrained-DAPfucker-streaming-Harmxn-fox-jeet-deaf-zo would say
>>103238407>>103235882
>>103238407>headpos>competeanon...
>>103238407HeadPOS simply cannot compete with condom plastic superiority. First truthear gate and now Libra X chinkfit. hd650 owner
>>103238065basically a "good" dac+amp will be 1ohm impedance or less. most modern dac+amp recs (including dongles) should be around there, but it's not always specified by manufacturers or verified by third-party. just don't get some esoteric meme dac+amp, and it should have low impedance. as far as iems, methods used to tune multi-driver iems will respond differently to output impedance. in this way, it is unpredictable, so you should not assume every iem responds like Hexa. some will boost bass, some will have wide-band shift, etc.
I listened to my sliivo today.
I listened to my em6l today.
Have you guys ever had a problem where a device just refuses to play audio through a USB dongle?I've got CX31993 (pic related) and it works perfectly fine with my phone, but for some reason does nothing when it comes to my cheap chinkpad. Now I'm thinking of getting a bluetooth DAC for my tablet, either FiiO BTR11 or HiBy W3 II. Is the bluetooth (LDAC) latency really that bad as they say? I want to play VNs on my tablet and it kinda matters, but I don't want to buy a bunch of dongles and pray that one of them actually works with it.
>>103238447>>103238525I would have scoffed at this before, but I can understand it now.My main thing is I find headphones more comfortable, but I'll just have to experiment with tips. Should have some cash from selling my headphones..
>>103238818your chinkpad doesn't support usb bypass it seems
I finally gave my sister the Chu 2 that I bought for her in response to your suggestions, and she really liked them. I might buy a couple of Gatos or w/e I can get for cheap as gifts for people.
>>103239157>"gifting" your loved ones the chu2she deserves better
>>103239171like the $2 blu vido
>>103239171It's about getting her feet wet. If she becomes serious about iems, I can recommend her a real pos. Anyway, I just had the idea of buying a couple Gatos, swapping its cable with one of my other stock iem cables, and then give them away. That way all my iems can have the Gato cable.
>>103236760>/iemg/ majority preference is certified as mud enjoyersyes they have abnormal music taste too so their opinion can be discarded, it's just very disappointing how quickly you run into diminishing returns when trying to find info on how to get to endgame in any hobby because anons are fuckwits
im waiting for chuzo's first ever releaseshit will be legendary
most IEMs and headphones have had a bass slope with bloated lower mids because of tuning limitations and people who don't know any better might have gotten used to it or they only have experience with nigbass car speakers or whateverthe more expensive multi-driver IEMs typically have more or less of a tuck because it sounds betterhttps://music.youtube.com/watch?v=X1yb80PWsN4i don't really care about this song but roasties say it's her best songthe kick drum overtones get too flappy especially at the end if you don't have a tuck
>>103237463>buy bnuuy nowWHERE???
>>103239382>video unavailable
>>103239409works on my machineit's katy perry - teenage dreamhttps://music.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoRohKYvy4https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IOZmV6iE2B0
>>103239426>video unavailable>video unavailable
>>103239430maybe you're using a 4chan extension that can't handle youtube music links idk
>>103239426first one unavailablesecond one worksshe probably just has her shit locked down tight on youtube
>criticizes /iemg/'s taste in music>posts slop
it's time for everyone to palette cleanse with Rushhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w3s2T0VBug
>>103239382>tranny doesn’t understand the difference between measurement rigs and differing HRTF bass curves on headPOS vs in ears
>>103239501>palette cleanse>more slopyou retards can't do one thing righthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjN5-f2MNWM
There's a guide on how to EQ, but is there a guide on how to hit play and enjoy?
So which IEM wont shit the bed within 6 months and is bassheavy? >CCA CRAs died>KBear Rosefinch died>QKZ HBB diedAny suggestions? I really don't want to go back to Panasonic HJE125s. They have awfully stiff cables and leave the ear upon the slightest headmovement.Also fuck anyone, who shilled ipod classics and ipod minis. They won't output anything below 100Hz. My fucking $9 bluetooth dongle has a better dac.
>>103239574eq
>>103236737rusbum is this car yours? looks badass.
>fiio
Sometimes I put a quick youtube video on to listen to and get distracted by 4chan then it finishes playing and I end up listening to nothing but tinnitus for an hour while browsing 4chan before I realize there's no music playing.
>>103239748how do they do it so consistently>>103239768>no autoplay
>>103239748what a mudlord
>>103239748what a POS
>>103239774Yeah no autoplay lmao I'm not about to autoplay into some literal garbage that will enhance my tinnitus times fifty six.
Zhangout anon here, I'll be going around Singapore to audition more pos today. If I don't hear anything impressive, I might just buy the Annihilator.
i hate you guys
>>103240413W-what did I do...
>>103240305Share pics of hangout
>Anyone put down $777 on the Beautiful Worlds by Moondrop? And how are they?>Do they sound as good as they looks when it comes to FLACS out of an Astell & Kern AK100s?I'm seriously considering them for what I admit are superficial reasons.
>>103241034imagine how hard it would be to clean this pos if it falls in the actual pos
>>103241034quite literally a reshelled kato that is uglier, quadruple the price, and somehow worse in terms of ergonomics.
>>103241034Save for $1,400 and get the 64audio Solo, same principle, chink drivers (same as T10) in luxurious shells (perhaps better filter/sound guide).
>>103240825I don't plan to go there today but we'll see.>>103241034Not even whales are buying what Moondrop is selling here. That pos is still in stock after 1 year despite being "limited edition".
>>103241120The ergonomics look pretty standard. Can't be worse than their monstrous "Blessings" which are the BBCs of the earphone world.
>>103241226not as bad as their other pos (looking at solis2), but it was noticeably heavier which was already not ideal with the kato
I like the carrying case
>>103241316remember to post impressions
Got it for $6. Not bad at all.
>>103236084>>103236108>>103236114>>103236171kneel
>>103237342OP again, ABed my HD600 and while they are equivalent in their mid range and detail, the Zero2 bass and presence is much nicer.The treble range at least is a tuning thing, but I can't imagine the 600 can produce the subbass without tons of distortion.
what are some good wireless earbuds?want to buy one but im stuck on what to buy.can't be airpods because im not a ibaby user
>>103242141Scarbir.com pick whatever is recommended for your budget.Qcy Melobuds Pro is the current fotm.
good ewening saarsbeen out of the game for a bit, looking for a set for jazz listening in the $300-500 rangeonly set of iems is the Blessing 2s which [spoiler]are totally fine overall[/spoiler]where should I start looking?
>>103242247>jazzStart with mega5est, it has most accurate timbre for that price range
>>103242315do they go on sale ever? I'll keep an eye out
>>103242315Have you tried Canon II? Seem to measure well.
>>103242468it's relatively new so it's not being discounted yet, fingers crossed for black friday>>103242514unfortunately not, there's no demo units for the canon ii where i live
>>103242247just use eq bro
>>103233815>predominantly female and older listeners>Harman>Harm manHmm.
>>103242591gotta consoom bro
>>103241846The DT770: can't hang with the Zero2 either.
My dzat df-10 just died, what's the new meta IEM?
>>103239229We only listen to real music.https://youtu.be/3uKQwmJYr4U?si=XcZ7bTyK7G-fxM-M
>>103238407>>103236559
>>103239618Endgame.
>>103243112Dunu Braindance
>>103235217>earplugswouldn't that be 'disrespectful' to the band that is playing? people go to live event with the intention of listening to the full and 'unfiltered' music. even if the music is full of clipping and distortion, thats how the artist intended for you to listen. although wearing earplugs isn't outwardly conspicuous to show that you want to block out some of the music, but what about wearing safety Peltors or an unplugged headphones to a concert? would anyone call you a dork? but then i'd argue wearing headphones is less 'disrespectful' because it blocks less of the music compared to earplugs.
>>103243646Live performances always sound like ass, you get there for the community. There are earplugs that lower the volume without changing the tonality much but that's probably not what he was using.
>>103239565https://youtu.be/4XCGD4rSe94
i dont know much about IEMs, how do yours died? and how long do your iems last? i saw many posts saying theirs dying after like a year or so, that's kinda fast?
>>103244286Literally up to fate. My 2year old Salnotes Zero is still working fine, but my Artti T10 died within 30 days.
>>103244286my chu 1 died after 3 months, it starts with intermittent signal cutoff on one side and then it totally died.my cra cra 'died' after 1 year. the glue melts blocked the drivers.my MH1c, MH755, MH750 still werks fine, perhaps it gets even better, because of burn-in.
>>103244286my chu's right cable shat itself and now it rests inside the box it came in
>>103244286Qkz vk4 is 4 years old now. Still looking pristine new.
>>103241768I make my own boxesI refuse to kneel to a shitty fake-leather case
My T10 just arrived and daaang that cable is thicc, at least by chink iem standards
>>103245568post comparison
>>103243662>>103243646I don't see how it's disrespectful, as a performer myself, idgaf if someone wears ear plugs.The ones I wear don't alter the sound too much and just lower volume, so it makes it better for me because I can hear what the musicians are doing better.
Total newfag death
>>103235172For consumers none. Filter design is much more detailed than linear/minimum phase and trying to gleam some notion of HiFi from this selection is hallucination tier. For the systems used in DACs it is basically a solved problem and comes down to their specific design constraints more than anything else.>>103235307>Mathematically>linear phase has some latencyMathematically they are acausal which in practice is realised by latency because they have finite length (hence finite time dependence).
>>103241661Who made that graph. What a waste of time.>>103244286Nobody is gonna post about a pos not dying so of course it will be skewed but there are also some that are notorious for design issues that kill them rather quickly like Chu 2.
>>103246027I mean almost all reviewers are so opposed to measure a tws. This is the best i had.
>>103246027I thought moondrops just had peeling paint issues
>>103246390Chipping paint, shitty filters clogging, gangrenous QC all around
>>103246404not to mention downright atrocious cable quality on thier budget offerings like, it literally disintegrates infront of your eyes
My EDC Pro just developed a 3dB imbalance lmao
Reminder if you own more than two IEM you are addicted.
Buy meme pos, win meme qc
Finally got my EPZ Q1 Pro's with the mic cable. P neat, much lighter than the Chu 2's, fit well with the stock small tips and don't slip out. HS20's just suck, they constantly roll up and don't seal properly, so now I know it was the weight that was my issue.
>>103246423no, ur disgusting earwax did
breadzo... bake the threadzo
>>103246523They're relatively clean. I have the Vader too btw, and they're still fine.
fresh bread >>103246647
>>103246650BRO?? i can't even imagine the front vent
>>103246666Bwo... that's the refraction of the driver... and unironically the left pair is not the one who developed imbalance lmao
>>103244286Every headphone, earbud, iem ive ever purchased is still working including skull candies from 10 years ago. You have to be a retard to have iems die on you. The only exception is my airpod pros which died about 2 months after warranty. Never purchase apple airpods
